84,000 trouble free miles on my 18 escape with the 1.5. Traded in a 17 Hyundai Tucson 2.0 for it. That ecoboost would put that 2.0 Hyundai to shame any day. Such a snappy little engine. I love that escape.
My dad just bought one of these with approx. 70k miles. Gonna make sure I mention this to him tomorrow before he takes it to the ford dealer to get that recalled transmission bushing part replaced, so they can make sure the seals are alright and coolant wont get in. Would hate to see that thing break on him, he was really lucky to get one at an auctiom for 6300 that was pretty meticulously maintained and serviced regularly. Thanks for making this video!!
At least where I live this problem has been taken care of. We have a 2018 Escape SEL. Bought it with 3400 miles. During the first 7000 miles it leaked half the coolant into cylinder #2 and burned it. Ford replaced the short block assembly and the warranty continues. Fair enough. The thing to take from this is the issue is defective engine blocks, very unlike Ford. Henry Ford was all about durability.
On the positive side the coolant into the cylinders keeps the combustion chamber and valves nice and clean which is beneficial for the direct injection turbo engine.
@@FlyingWrenches13 Hello do you know why do I hear like water running on dashboard when AC is on? Around 8 months ago ford had to replace a short block on my 2017 ford fusion se 1.5 ecoboost, I remember I heard like water running on dashboard back then as well and I was told it was because of the coolant .but now I believe I hear it when the ac is on.any idea why? They said they replaced the new version short block.i just pray that it won't be the same problem leading to replace another one.also when they changed the short block the coolant level was almost full and now the level is dropped to exactly where MAX line is.do you know if anyone had a problem again after replacing the new version short block Thank you so much
I can answer your question. I just purchased a 2019 Ford Fusion with 1.5 Ecoboost engine on 6/24/23 with only 27,000 miles. On 8/28/23 I heard gurgling close to my dash and engine light came on. I took car to get diagnostic on it and it had code po 304 which is a misfire in cylinder 4. Upon further inspection technician removed spark plugs and there was coolant in cylinder 4. Now the car needs another engine. Shop pulled up car fax and a Ford dealership in SC replaced engine on 7/2022. Now new engine has same problem. I am still under Ford's power train warranty and Ford dealership service manager told me they are no longer taking engine replacement cases because they are to too far backed up. No one wants to touch it. I've only made one payment on the car and engine is no good.
I have fixed it with a little hole on coolant cap. Coolant goes without pressure, the leaking has stopped. I use one that starts boiling at 138°C, so no problem about no pressure, no need of changing anything, just a hole. 1.5 ecoboost with 80k milles and running good.
I don't have one ,I just love your videos. You are try and true. Keep exposing those A/Holes. Shame we spend 5 to 6 years on payments for junk. Keep exposing them.
Replacing the long block is cheaper than buying a new car. I just had this problem at 62k miles 😫 probably just get a new car but this sucks. Thanks so much for the information very helpful video.
I watched your video at work. Yes at Ford🙂. Got home said babe get your car we going to go trade it in and get you a new bronco. Yes she is very happy. Thanks for the update
Lucky you! I have a 2018 escape. I had to get a new engine in August (free of charge due to the original recall in 2019) and I just took it in for another engine issue. I’ve had nothing but issues with this car. Not even 50,000 miles on it.
I owe you an apology Mason. My 2018 Ford Fusion 1.5 liter piece of $hit had coolant intrusion into the short block and the Ford delearship is now giving me a new engine. Luckily its still under warranty. You were absolutely right.
You were they guy that commented on this video a while back telling me how stupid I was for telling people that these engines have issues and then deleted all of your comments right? Funny how the tables turn.
My 1.5L '14 Fusion SE is a champ too. Hoping for the best. Ford is shit about recalls. I'm on the 4th or 5th one, but they drag feet getting me in for the fixes.
Man those cars are barely worth the 5500 high end! Tell your subscribers how to really fix the problem….boat ramp and a brick, smoking while pumping gas, contact your buddy that knows a guy, you see where I’m going folks. Lmao. Great video and honesty. FYI insurance itself is fraud. But fraud is apparently a crime ✌🏼
Bro. awesome video. Subbed. And FYI: Ford has released an extended warranty program for the 1.5L ecoboost. Coverage is now 7 years or 84,000 miles from original purchase date.
As far as I'm aware, the same engine is built into the 2016 to 2018 Ford Focus as well. I just recently thought about buying a Focus with the 1.5L 4-cyl ecoboost engine (182HP) but now decided against it because.. I need something reliable. This is a huge disappointment since I've been always a ford guy and my 2008 Fiesta has been one hell of a reliable machine. Really disappointed in ford there.
Thank you for the detailed explanation. My 2017 2.0 long block was replaced at 32,000 miles. Didn't have to pay a dime and the dealer was lucky enough to get a long block fairly quickly. The 1.5's were on back-order, so like 6 of them were waiting on short blocks. From what I understand, a long block is alot easier to swap. A short block is kinda a PITA.
@@FlyingWrenches13 I'm a fairly experienced car guy and like to work on my own vehicles. So I knew what signs to look for. First thing I noticed was it started to sip coolant, just a little at first. But by 2 weeks I was getting a rough start for about 4 seconds. Plugged in ForScan and getting the codes for misfire cylinder 2. Knew right away what it was. Went to the dealer with the TSB in hand. Service advisor was great. Pressure tested that night, ordered long block the next day. 2 weeks later I had a new engine. My new engine sticker says " Cleveland Engine Plant, 28-OCT-2019". So I hope I got one of the redesigned engines!
I’m sure you did. Ford wouldn’t have paid to have a not redesigned engine put in under the TSB I wouldn’t think. That’s great you had a good experience at the dealer. A lot of people don’t. It’s also good that your the type of person that can diag and work on your own stuff. It will save you a lot of money in the end. Do you like using for scan? I’ve heard a lot about it from other techs that have used it but I haven’t used it much myself. Guess I need to download it and try it out.
Replaced many of these 1.5/2.0 blocks at our dealership. Some have come in as low as 9K miles. If we were told right, the 1.5/2.0L engines built after May 2019 are the revised blocks to eliminate this issue. I haven't seen if that's the case because we haven't had any with the supposed revised blocks come in with coolant intrusion, yet. People with the 2.5L Fusion are happy as can be. Many come in with over 150K just for routine maintenance. I love Fords but personally would never own one of these small ecoboost engines. If it's not the block, it's the integrated turbo/manifold that gives out which is another $2300 repair.
Have a '17 model Escape, had to have block replaced at 14.5K. Luckily was under warrenty and Ford had to pay for it. So far, no more major problems. Probably won't buy another Ford.
Broooooo why didn’t you make h to is video last year before I brought my 2016 Ford Fusion 😫😫😫😫 thanks for the information tho earned you my like and I’m subbing now
Mason you are a gentleman and a scholar thank you for such a candid and helpful video. I just bought the 2021 Ford Bronco (big bend) rocking a 1.5l 3 cylinder engine… rumor has it that the head gasket issue was fixed in 2021. Do I still have the block issues to look forward to!? If so what can I do to reduce the probability and extend longevity? 10 speed trans in the bronco ok? P.S. I massacred the like button! You the man!
I was a dealer tech in 1985 when the 1.8 turbo pontiac sunbird came out and and I told the factory rep putting turbo's on these small engines was not a good idea and he said but GM was trying to raise MPG for the government and the same holds true today no 4cyl turbo for me period.
i have a 2.0 turbo in my 2014 fusion.. not all turbo cars are bad.. has now 148882 miles from new..i am a tech ( classic italian cars )so i do more preventive maintenance than most people here ( also i have the better spanish engine in ,y car, not the american engine )
@@randellgribben9772 yea the 2.0 seems to be a little better than the smaller ones. it is interesting every ford service tech. I have talked to say stay away from all ford turbos.
@@greasemonkeybd there are 2 difff. 2 liter turbo engines.. one from cleveland plant. and the one from spain.. the spanish one is better.. the cleveland engines,, have the water problems one the 1/2 clys.....my engine is from spain... tech freind at senator ford, told me that the spanish 2.0 engines have no issues
I just got a letter from Ford for my 2017 Ford Escape for this problem and also a letter for the transmission can slip out of gear while parked. So Ford is going to fix both problems at no charge. Funny this video was two years ago and I'm just received those letters as of July this year.
The company I work for has a fleet. We used Escapes from 2014 to current. Now we have an option for the Chevy Equinox. The biggest failure has been transmissions. The 2014 batch had over 50% failure rate of FWD units. Even the 2017 units failed but not nearly as bad. Engines have been mostly reliable. 120k is replacement schedule. If the 1.5 have been failing for us I have near heard much. We did get the 100k PT warranty. Management is pushing to switch to Chevys due to high out of warranty costs of the Escapes. Nothing heard yet on the new 2020 Fords we have.
Yeah the 6F35 in the escapes definitely has its own set of problems. We overhaul those fairly often. The 1.5 wouldn’t have came in the escape until 2017 I think, so that may be why the earlier ones y’all have haven’t had the issues. How are the equinox’s holding up?
Our 16 has over 160,000 and it's been flawless so far. Changed spark plugs at about 110000. Doing the timing belt and water pump as soon as parts get in. 0$ total repair cost outside of the standard maintenance. Got 93000 miles out of the factory michellins, second set almost gone now.
Hi sir also these eco boost engines are fitted in the f150 trucks as well and they are a heap of crap i don't know why they were designed for ford motor companies in the beginning and i reckon that they knew about this issue but they never cared about it and if you buy a new vehicle with these engines in ford motor companies are very reluctant to spend a lot of time and money to rectify this issue as they are more interested in selling their vehicles regards Tony
My buddy is a Ford certified technician, and he told me the same thing. Luckily I’m at 69xxx miles and have had no issues. I’ll just coyote swap her if she dies 😂 (yes I’ve seen it… why).
Yes its true.. My 2017 Ford escape 1.5 ecoboost drinks too much coolant...i have to add some every week or so.. i recently noticed a leak on the big hose that wraps around the back of engine to the side of engine near the hose clamp.. it looks like an oily dark substance..not shure what going on there.. it has 111000 miles..
2020 Fusion owner here. 10k miles, already consumes a bit of coolant. Regularly maintained, 3k full synthetic oil changes. These motors are CRAP! I feel like the 1.5 in the 2020 is the exact same motor as the 1.5 in previous years. It's not part of the service bulletins, but it sure does look and sound like the same motor.
@@ToyotaCelicaDude1 aw damn! I didn’t realize. I have a new Bronco Sport with the 3 cyl. I kind of went out on a limb with that purchase. So far it’s been a good performer for what it is.
Got a used one from a used dealer at 84k miles now it has 88k misfire in cylinder #2 white smoke awesome , I have a question why can’t a head gasket fix this problem ?
That's good i like the fusions 2017 and up are great but 2012-2016 are or can be terrible. However, even if a few years of cars have many documented issues, there's always about 30% of people who have no issues, but the majority of others will have the issues cars are weird these days.
Question?? I noticed you didn't mention anything about getting it rebuilt ? As one of the options?? Might be the same as getting one from the dealership if there's one available from there
Hey man great video, looking at purchasing a 2019 Ford escape with 45000 kms 1.5L turbo. Is this a issue with the 2019's aswell? Or is this previous models? An answer to this will save me so much money please respond, thank you!
I have a 2018 Escape with 19000. No problems yet but I'm thinking of trading for a Subaru Forester( I now wish I would have gotten that, it was my 1st choice). I can't believe Ford after making this SUV since 2013 could make such an engineering screw-up. It's either that or get the longest power train warranty possible. Either way, I take a financial hit due to Ford. Certainly never buy another one.
Yeah I can understand your frustration. All of The ford line isn’t as bad as this engine. If you do decide to go back with a ford I would recommend looking at the 11-19 explorers with the 3.5 cyclone engine. Those are very durable SUV’s. Other than a costly water pump repair at 150K-200k miles I haven’t seen any problems with them. Can’t say much for the foresters, the only subarus I have messed with has been the older ones. What year model are you looking at?
I had a 93 Subaru wagon I bought used in 97 with 45k on it. Gave it to my son in 2012 (over 200k), he drove it for three years and sold it to a friend (250k), and as far as I know the engine/trans have never been cracked. So had a good experience with Subaru. If I go back with Subaru probably a 18 or 19 Forester. The Explorer is really overkill for my needs but the reliability is good to hear. Costs money to trade and I don't see Ford making good on this engine after the warranty expires unless the number of repairs becomes more of a public issue. Just didn't have good luck with my year/model choice. Thanks for the reply and good luck with your channel.
Have you guys had any issues arise yet with the new 2020 Ford Escape with the 3 cylinder? I know they’re still fairly newer but I just bought one and curious how reliability has been so far.
If I have this engine in my 2018 Fusion SE, but have yet to have any symptoms from this particular issue, would the way I drive make a difference? Or is it just inevitable??
Damnnn I really wanted to pick up a blacked out escape but I don’t think I can take the risk with the 1.5L. Any idea on how hard/expensive it would be to drop a 2.5L in? Thanks! Really enjoying your content man gives a great insight
You should be able to buy an escape with the 2.5 already in it. Might be a little harder to find . Thanks for the comment. Hard to believe anyone actually likes listening to me talk haha.
My whole thing is that I want the features of a higher trim rather than just the base model. I believe there was an option for tossing the 2.5 in but not for 2017+ model years which has the sport appearance. I suppose I could just buy a 1.5 or 2.0 and run it until the engine goes and toss in that 2.5😂 But yeah great stuff, you’re informative and you tell it how it is.
There was a TSB (technical service bulletin) out on this issue with the 1.5. I own a 2017 Fusion. I got a letter from Ford to have this addressed. There is a belt driven water pump on these engines and there is an auxiliary electric water pump. What this TSB does is wire the electric water pump to continue to run for approximately 3 minutes after engine is shut off/parked car. The idea was that this leak was happening while the engine was still hot and shut off/stopped. This pump continuing to run cools the engine so to avoid a heat sink problem. I had this done while still in the 3/36 B to B warranty at no charge. My Fusion was a leftover that I bought new 2/13/2018. So the engine is still warranted internally till 2/13/2023. I only have about 5000 miles on the car as I am retired and have an F150 I use too. I have not lost any coolant so I don't have this problem "YET" and the TSB kept it at bay??? Or the fact I only have 5000 miles on it and do not use it much???? I will probably trade it in or sell it B 4 2/13/2023. The Customer satisfaction program is 19B37. Good luck.
Have they redesigned the new long block to eliminate The water intrusion problem or is it the same exact motor that came in your car and will have the same problem again and 60 or 100,000 miles
I just bought a used 2015 fusion with this engine from a sold as is dealership and now this has happened and I have to replace the engine myself. The question I've been trying to get answered that nobody seems to know is can I replace the 1.5l ecoboost with one of the other models of engine like the 2l or 2.5? I don't wanna spend all this money on the same engine and have the same thing happen.
Hello. I'm going to buy a 2019 Escape. The exact date of production is May 31, 2019. According to Ford information, the problem concerns cars produced until April 8, 2019. Can I be calm or better to let go of the purchase?
The Bronco Sport has the 1.5L three cylinder Ecoboost engine, NOT to be confused with the problematic 1.5L four cylinder EcoBoost engine referenced in the video.
After Ford realized they had a problem they modified the 1.5 after a certain date, so it is the earlier built 1.5 engines that have this issue. If you have the issue they replace the block with the newer improved 1.5 engine See my in depth post at 8-19-2021 above.
I was told by the previous owner of my 2016 Fusion 1.5 that the car was taken to a dealer and fixed. How can I tell if the dealer replaced the engine with a short or long block? I assume, like you said, that they put in a short block. If so, does this replacement short block fix the issue long term?
I would call the dealership and ask, if you know what dealership it was taken to. I had the same thing happen, and they only replaced the short block for mine. From what I understand, that's all ford is willing to replace under warranty. The problem is, it's not a long term fix. It gets you another few thousand miles then blows again. I'm in the works with an attorney over it, I'm so fed up with ford and this piece of crap they manufactured. They knew they were putting out bad engines and continued to do so. There's also a class action lawsuit against ford right now over these engines. They have not done right by their customers at all.
Is there and prevention to this like just changing your head gasket before the problem arrises? Or will coolant just leak into them cylinders whenever it pleases no matter what ya do:(
Haha hey awesome you answered some of my question.. so...I get a used block I get that part number and make sure it's was a rebuild block before a certain date? Or.. how I'll I know where!! Should I get a 1.5l block fromm I don't want to go back down that rabbit whole
I guess I’m confused on what your asking. Your most likely not gonna find a used “updated engine block”. If it was me I would go with a long block from Ford.
The only difference between a long block and a short block is what comes with it. Short block is just the block, rods, pistons. Long block comes with all of that plus new head, new oil pump, oil pan, and cams.
What’s the difference between the long block and the short block replacement. I have this issue and the dealership wants to do a short block replacement. Should I insist on the long block?
If your footing the bill or an extended warranty company is, I would make them do a long block. Unfortunately if it’s still under base warranty ford is only going to pay for the short block. The main difference is that a short block is just the rotating assembly. So basically it’s just the block, crankshaft, rods, and pistons. It doesn’t come with anything else. You have to remove everything such as oil pan, oil pump, cylinder head, water pump, cams, valve cover, and a lot of other things from your current engine and put them onto the new rotating assembly. Where as a long block includes all of those things I just mentioned. Hope that makes a little more sense.
I wish I would have seen this video when it came out I probably would have still been under warranty. All of these things you talked about have happened but slowly over time. The last two oil changes the shop said your coolant was low so we added some. I'm thinking I don't recall seeing any leaks? Check engine light flash a couple times but would then go off so the next oil change I said some mornings it seems to run little rough, its over 50K lets change the spark plugs. ok sir.. no problem.. oh and we had to top off your coolant. .Again?? Couple months go by and the check light comes back on but this time stays on, car is now running rough. Call to make an appointment for service where I bought it, sorry sir, we are booked solid through the 4th of July. wow .. ok. Drove the car to work the next day, light was on but car was fine..get home , park out front.. huh that exhaust smells funny, I hope that's not coolant? wow, This thing might need a head gasket. The next morning car won't start. is that the starter? sounds funny? Oh no it's probably the timing belt.. So I have it towed to a local mechanic tell him its a no start issue. The next day he calls and tells me that the motor is toast. No compression in two cylinders. They are junk motors and they all have problems he says.He tells me he doesn't do motors and I should take it back to the dealership. ok, tow the car to the dealership. Sorry Sir can't help you you're out of warranty. Now I'm at 62000 and ford or the place I bought it won't cover anything. Im basically screwed. Ford is telling me 7K other shops I have inquired are talking 5K. How can I put that kind of money out on a car that's worth about 8K on a trade in? I'm really at loss as to what to do. Little over 2 years ago I bought a nice loaded 2016 fusion SE with 34k on it. Dark gray, black rims and trim nice looking car! One owner ,perfect car fax, I love it , drives great handles well, and its basically now junk. I have.. what.. 3 years of payments left. I guess my only option at this point is a junk yard motor, do it my self and then immediately trade it in and cut my losses. If I try to trade it in not running I'll get maybe 1k, I really wish I saw this video 2000 miles ago. Thanks for the info anyway. Now at least I know its not me its Ford!
Thanks for the detailed story! Man I hate that happened to you like that. I would call and raise hell with ford until they give you some assistance. The dealer also could help you out some with ford if they were willing. If you had complained about it before the warranty ran out and the dealer has record of that it should be covered. Hope you get some help on it!
I'm dealing with this right now. I was told i need a new engine my the mechanic, but can't I just change the engine block? I seen the Technical service bulletin and it was say to Change the head gasket and the engine block
Okay so, I have a 2017 Fusion with a 1.5l Ecoboost. I bought it in 2018 with 78k miles on it, and it now has about 133k. I haven't had to put a drop of coolant in it, I take it in for regular maintenance, and i change the oil and filters regularly. am i just dumb lucky?
Is it possible to change my 1.5L escape and convert it to a 2L? I read the 1.5 has a short stroke crankshaft, I don’t know if I can just switch it out and would I have to buy a 2L ecu and other electronics?
This happened about 6 months ago on my 2017 escape 1.5 L. Had white exhaust and check engine for about a week. Then it went away with my oil change. How did it stop? And should I expect this to happen again?
Out of warranty, boring the cracked liners out and fitting new custom ones is a common solution, but I love in a land of cheap labor and free healthcare, anyhow it's already fairly common to do with the older 1.6 EB
How many 2.0’s have you seen with this problem? They have a tsb for the same issue on the twin scroll version. I traded my 1.5 Fusion when this happened for a 2.0 Edge and really hope I didn’t trade 1 problem for the same problem!
I’ve seen a few 2.0’s but not as many as the 1.5. They do have the same problem though. I usually try to talk people out of the 4 cylinder eco boost engines all together. Boost= less longevity.
Thanks for the reply! I have ESP though 2023 so hopefully if it goes it happens before then! I love the torque of the turbo but no doubt the non turbo lasts longer
My 2018 Ford Escape 1.5 liter engine, at 51,000 miles, was just replaced with the newly designed engine. Ford paid for the engine and car rental fees also.
Girl brought a 2014 fusion in the other week and said her boyfriend snapped a spark plug AND the easy out off in the head. Cost her $2000 labor to pull. I pulled it (it was definitely a pain in the ass) and it cracked the head. Called the dealer and they actually kept the heads for these things IN STOCK. That’s never a good thing!
The engine block is the same. I haven't read mucht about this issue but there are reports of complete engine failure where cylinder 2 seems to crack. I don't know if it is related to this issue though. Strange thing is that most reports of that engine failure is for cars with an automatic transmission (6F35). The 1.5 Ecoboost 4 cilinder has been used in Europe from 2015 for the mk3 Focus facelift and in the C-Max among others (Fusion/Mondeo). From 2019 onwards the Focus has a 3 cilinder 1.5 Ecoboost. For the 4 cilinder there are however a lot of failures caused by tuning. Most software tuners don't take the torque limits into account.
I have 2015 fusion eco boost and went to dealership they are charging me 5800 for the new motor swap u said something about long block do I tell them I want the long block I have the paper with estimate saying part number 6009 engine short block so will it work
84,000 trouble free miles on my 18 escape with the 1.5. Traded in a 17 Hyundai Tucson 2.0 for it. That ecoboost would put that 2.0 Hyundai to shame any day. Such a snappy little engine. I love that escape.
My dad just bought one of these with approx. 70k miles. Gonna make sure I mention this to him tomorrow before he takes it to the ford dealer to get that recalled transmission bushing part replaced, so they can make sure the seals are alright and coolant wont get in. Would hate to see that thing break on him, he was really lucky to get one at an auctiom for 6300 that was pretty meticulously maintained and serviced regularly. Thanks for making this video!!
The dealership won’t tell you. Check for past codes if your check engine light isn’t on.
At least where I live this problem has been taken care of. We have a 2018 Escape SEL. Bought it with 3400 miles. During the first 7000 miles it leaked half the coolant into cylinder #2 and burned it. Ford replaced the short block assembly and the warranty continues. Fair enough. The thing to take from this is the issue is defective engine blocks, very unlike Ford. Henry Ford was all about durability.
Glad to hear yours got fixed!
@@FlyingWrenches13 We are now 10k miles after block replacement so far so good knock wood!
@@FlyingWrenches13hello! Can you give us the part code for the short block? It is so hard to find.
Had this problem happen to me at 38k miles. Thankfully was saved for the first time by the warranty
Glad to hear warranty covered it!
Same here. My car is current at the dealership going to get a new block. I am sure glad I bought the warranty.
Ended up getting rid of mine kept giving me problems and was running out of warranty.
On the positive side the coolant into the cylinders keeps the combustion chamber and valves nice and clean which is beneficial for the direct injection turbo engine.
Gotta stay positive haha
That totally ignores what ethylene glycol does to destroy cylinder bores.
@@jacquesblaque7728 I think it was a joke
@@FlyingWrenches13 Hello do you know why do I hear like water running on dashboard when AC is on? Around 8 months ago ford had to replace a short block on my 2017 ford fusion se 1.5 ecoboost, I remember I heard like water running on dashboard back then as well and I was told it was because of the coolant .but now I believe I hear it when the ac is on.any idea why? They said they replaced the new version short block.i just pray that it won't be the same problem leading to replace another one.also when they changed the short block the coolant level was almost full and now the level is dropped to exactly where MAX line is.do you know if anyone had a problem again after replacing the new version short block
Thank you so much
I can answer your question. I just purchased a 2019 Ford Fusion with 1.5 Ecoboost engine on 6/24/23 with only 27,000 miles. On 8/28/23 I heard gurgling close to my dash and engine light came on. I took car to get diagnostic on it and it had code po 304 which is a misfire in cylinder 4. Upon further inspection technician removed spark plugs and there was coolant in cylinder 4. Now the car needs another engine. Shop pulled up car fax and a Ford dealership in SC replaced engine on 7/2022. Now new engine has same problem. I am still under Ford's power train warranty and Ford dealership service manager told me they are no longer taking engine replacement cases because they are to too far backed up. No one wants to touch it. I've only made one payment on the car and engine is no good.
I have fixed it with a little hole on coolant cap. Coolant goes without pressure, the leaking has stopped. I use one that starts boiling at 138°C, so no problem about no pressure, no need of changing anything, just a hole. 1.5 ecoboost with 80k milles and running good.
Never heard of anyone doing that but hey if it works it works.
Im interested in know the hole diamter tou chose?
@@vindicatednews9169 1mm just in the center of the cap.
Can you share exactly what you did and instructions? Doesn’t coolant need pressure?
I don't have one ,I just love your videos. You are try and true. Keep exposing those A/Holes. Shame we spend 5 to 6 years on payments for junk. Keep exposing them.
Replacing the long block is cheaper than buying a new car. I just had this problem at 62k miles 😫 probably just get a new car but this sucks. Thanks so much for the information very helpful video.
I watched your video at work. Yes at Ford🙂. Got home said babe get your car we going to go trade it in and get you a new bronco. Yes she is very happy. Thanks for the update
Sorry to hear that for the rest of you. 2018 escape 1.5 here with 65,000 miles and not a hiccup one
Lucky you! I have a 2018 escape. I had to get a new engine in August (free of charge due to the original recall in 2019) and I just took it in for another engine issue. I’ve had nothing but issues with this car. Not even 50,000 miles on it.
@@kacieeich1205 how did you get dealer to replace engine and what’s the new problem
There should be a mandatory recall just like what they did on the dual clutch powershit transmission
Your right. There probably should be but I doubt we will see one.
Thank you. This was super helpful and confirms that my sons car is trash with $10k still owed 😣
I owe you an apology Mason. My 2018 Ford Fusion 1.5 liter piece of $hit had coolant intrusion into the short block and the Ford delearship is now giving me a new engine. Luckily its still under warranty. You were absolutely right.
You were they guy that commented on this video a while back telling me how stupid I was for telling people that these engines have issues and then deleted all of your comments right? Funny how the tables turn.
U r such a great tech u will b successful wherever u go. Ford might not like your honesty. This channel will grow like crazy!!
Thank you and I Hope your right!
I don't know how, but I have a 2014 Fusion 1.5 with 250,000 miles on it and it runs fine. Never had an issue with it
My 1.5L '14 Fusion SE is a champ too. Hoping for the best. Ford is shit about recalls. I'm on the 4th or 5th one, but they drag feet getting me in for the fixes.
Same my 2014 ford fusion has been very reliable and it has 110k miles on it I just get worried about this problem.
Man those cars are barely worth the 5500 high end! Tell your subscribers how to really fix the problem….boat ramp and a brick, smoking while pumping gas, contact your buddy that knows a guy, you see where I’m going folks. Lmao. Great video and honesty. FYI insurance itself is fraud. But fraud is apparently a crime ✌🏼
Well I wouldn’t put it that blunt but you got a pony lol
Bro. awesome video. Subbed. And FYI: Ford has released an extended warranty program for the 1.5L ecoboost. Coverage is now 7 years or 84,000 miles from original purchase date.
He is 100% right and this just happened to my 2019 Ford Fusion se
what month? Before may ?
As far as I'm aware, the same engine is built into the 2016 to 2018 Ford Focus as well. I just recently thought about buying a Focus with the 1.5L 4-cyl ecoboost engine (182HP) but now decided against it because.. I need something reliable. This is a huge disappointment since I've been always a ford guy and my 2008 Fiesta has been one hell of a reliable machine. Really disappointed in ford there.
Thank you for the detailed explanation. My 2017 2.0 long block was replaced at 32,000 miles. Didn't have to pay a dime and the dealer was lucky enough to get a long block fairly quickly. The 1.5's were on back-order, so like 6 of them were waiting on short blocks. From what I understand, a long block is alot easier to swap. A short block is kinda a PITA.
Yeah that is true. A lot more labor has to go into replacing a short block as opposed to a long block. What happened to your 2.0?
@@FlyingWrenches13 I'm a fairly experienced car guy and like to work on my own vehicles. So I knew what signs to look for. First thing I noticed was it started to sip coolant, just a little at first. But by 2 weeks I was getting a rough start for about 4 seconds. Plugged in ForScan and getting the codes for misfire cylinder 2. Knew right away what it was. Went to the dealer with the TSB in hand. Service advisor was great. Pressure tested that night, ordered long block the next day. 2 weeks later I had a new engine. My new engine sticker says " Cleveland Engine Plant, 28-OCT-2019". So I hope I got one of the redesigned engines!
I’m sure you did. Ford wouldn’t have paid to have a not redesigned engine put in under the TSB I wouldn’t think. That’s great you had a good experience at the dealer. A lot of people don’t. It’s also good that your the type of person that can diag and work on your own stuff. It will save you a lot of money in the end. Do you like using for scan? I’ve heard a lot about it from other techs that have used it but I haven’t used it much myself. Guess I need to download it and try it out.
@@escapelover7970 Where is the new engine sticker located?
@@bill40409 Passenger side of the engine
Replaced many of these 1.5/2.0 blocks at our dealership. Some have come in as low as 9K miles. If we were told right, the 1.5/2.0L engines built after May 2019 are the revised blocks to eliminate this issue. I haven't seen if that's the case because we haven't had any with the supposed revised blocks come in with coolant intrusion, yet. People with the 2.5L Fusion are happy as can be. Many come in with over 150K just for routine maintenance. I love Fords but personally would never own one of these small ecoboost engines. If it's not the block, it's the integrated turbo/manifold that gives out which is another $2300 repair.
I tell every one I can to get the 2.5 over the Ecoboost. Those engines seem to be bulletproof.
I have a 2018 1.5l eco boost with 53,000 miles and she purrs like a kitten.
If its working good now just sell it and save urself a headache down the road
Have a '17 model Escape, had to have block replaced at 14.5K. Luckily was under warrenty and Ford had to pay for it. So far, no more major problems. Probably won't buy another Ford.
You get your Like, and you get your Subscribe. Great video. Even if the news is bad.
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
I had one this week should be wrapped up Monday morning
My dad is having the same problem. Good thing it's a lease
Yeah that’s great! Just take it and get another.
Broooooo why didn’t you make h to is video last year before I brought my 2016 Ford Fusion 😫😫😫😫 thanks for the information tho earned you my like and I’m subbing now
Thanks man! I wish I would have started making these videos 8 years ago when I started at a dealer.
Mason you are a gentleman and a scholar thank you for such a candid and helpful video.
I just bought the 2021 Ford Bronco (big bend) rocking a 1.5l 3 cylinder engine… rumor has it that the head gasket issue was fixed in 2021.
Do I still have the block issues to look forward to!?
If so what can I do to reduce the probability and extend longevity?
10 speed trans in the bronco ok?
P.S. I massacred the like button! You the man!
yep, I blame all my 2017 ford fusion se 1.5 eco boost problems on you! should've made this video before July 2020 🤣🤣🤣 thanks for all the info lol
I take all the blame lol thanks!
Looking at the ctlinder de k, I'd say most if not all will need a replacement block.
I was a dealer tech in 1985 when the 1.8 turbo pontiac sunbird came out and and I told the factory rep putting turbo's on these small engines was not a good idea and he said but GM was trying to raise MPG for the government and the same holds true today no 4cyl turbo for me period.
Yeah I won’t own one either.
Pass on all turbos. Get a MAGNUSON supercharger.
i have a 2.0 turbo in my 2014 fusion.. not all turbo cars are bad.. has now 148882 miles from new..i am a tech ( classic italian cars )so i do more preventive maintenance than most people here ( also i have the better spanish engine in ,y car, not the american engine )
@@randellgribben9772 yea the 2.0 seems to be a little better than the smaller ones. it is interesting every ford service tech. I have talked to say stay away from all ford turbos.
@@greasemonkeybd there are 2 difff. 2 liter turbo engines.. one from cleveland plant. and the one from spain.. the spanish one is better.. the cleveland engines,, have the water problems one the 1/2 clys.....my engine is from spain... tech freind at senator ford, told me that the spanish 2.0 engines have no issues
I just got a letter from Ford for my 2017 Ford Escape for this problem and also a letter for the transmission can slip out of gear while parked. So Ford is going to fix both problems at no charge. Funny this video was two years ago and I'm just received those letters as of July this year.
The company I work for has a fleet. We used Escapes from 2014 to current. Now we have an option for the Chevy Equinox. The biggest failure has been transmissions. The 2014 batch had over 50% failure rate of FWD units. Even the 2017 units failed but not nearly as bad. Engines have been mostly reliable. 120k is replacement schedule. If the 1.5 have been failing for us I have near heard much. We did get the 100k PT warranty. Management is pushing to switch to Chevys due to high out of warranty costs of the Escapes. Nothing heard yet on the new 2020 Fords we have.
Yeah the 6F35 in the escapes definitely has its own set of problems. We overhaul those fairly often. The 1.5 wouldn’t have came in the escape until 2017 I think, so that may be why the earlier ones y’all have haven’t had the issues. How are the equinox’s holding up?
@Jenniolms Your about as funny as Steven Cobert...Not
Thanks...a true revelation
The piston crowns look cool
They are interesting looking pistons for sure
Awesome video my guy
Ive got a 2015 ford fusion with the 1.5 in it. 130,000 miles and no issues with it yet.
Awesome! I hope it keeps doing good for you.
Our 16 has over 160,000 and it's been flawless so far. Changed spark plugs at about 110000. Doing the timing belt and water pump as soon as parts get in. 0$ total repair cost outside of the standard maintenance. Got 93000 miles out of the factory michellins, second set almost gone now.
@@rognio3 did you do the timing belt job? How was it?
@@movingapollo1927 not bad, my local Ford dealer printed me the procedure
@@movingapollo1927 just for clarity. Our 16 1.5 now has over 190,000 and running strong. The timing belt took me about 3 hours of casual work 😁.
very good the video! Ford Escape is already breaking.
Thank you!
Are the new ones good? In the new bronco sport for example. What's your opinion on those for reliability?
Haven’t worked on any yet so I’d say that’s a good thing.
Great video and well explained. So it doesn't affect the 2013 1.5 ford fusion engine?
I don’t think they put a 1.5 in the 13 models
Hi sir also these eco boost engines are fitted in the f150 trucks as well and they are a heap of crap i don't know why they were designed for ford motor companies in the beginning and i reckon that they knew about this issue but they never cared about it and if you buy a new vehicle with these engines in ford motor companies are very reluctant to spend a lot of time and money to rectify this issue as they are more interested in selling their vehicles regards Tony
My buddy is a Ford certified technician, and he told me the same thing. Luckily I’m at 69xxx miles and have had no issues. I’ll just coyote swap her if she dies 😂 (yes I’ve seen it… why).
Now that would make for an interesting ride. Coyote swapped Ford Fusion.
@@FlyingWrenches13 TH-cam it man…. Someone actually took the time and made that happen
Great informative video! Thanks for making it.
Thank you!
Thanks for the info
Mason, do you know how are the revised blocks keeping up? I've got one which received a brand new engine early 2022.
Yes its true.. My 2017 Ford escape 1.5 ecoboost drinks too much coolant...i have to add some every week or so.. i recently noticed a leak on the big hose that wraps around the back of engine to the side of engine near the hose clamp.. it looks like an oily dark substance..not shure what going on there.. it has 111000 miles..
Thank god our Escape has the 2.0 Ecoboost.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it actually has the same problem. 2.0 and 1.5 both have this same issue.
I have the same one and mine failed. Trade the car in. It’s awful. 2016 fusion here
Have one haven’t had a problem with it luckily
I’ve heard you can use a coolant additive that will seal a small head gasket leak.
2020 Fusion owner here. 10k miles, already consumes a bit of coolant. Regularly maintained, 3k full synthetic oil changes. These motors are CRAP! I feel like the 1.5 in the 2020 is the exact same motor as the 1.5 in previous years. It's not part of the service bulletins, but it sure does look and sound like the same motor.
Is it misfiring or anything?
@@FlyingWrenches13 Thankfully not *yet*
The new 1.5 is a 3 cyl. The older troubled engines are 4cyl.
@@richardkersey8993 Not the 1.5 in the Fusion sadly, it is still the 4 cylinder 1.5. it's the last car in Ford's lineup to hold onto the engine.
@@ToyotaCelicaDude1 aw damn! I didn’t realize. I have a new Bronco Sport with the 3 cyl. I kind of went out on a limb with that purchase. So far it’s been a good performer for what it is.
Got a used one from a used dealer at 84k miles now it has 88k misfire in cylinder #2 white smoke awesome , I have a question why can’t a head gasket fix this problem ?
It won’t fix it because the reason for it leaking is actually the deck surface on the block.
The dealer replaced my engine in a 2019 Escape that was only 11 months old and only 9000 miles. Been fine since.
Got 105k miles. No trouble at all best car i have owned
That's good i like the fusions 2017 and up are great but 2012-2016 are or can be terrible. However, even if a few years of cars have many documented issues, there's always about 30% of people who have no issues, but the majority of others will have the issues cars are weird these days.
That's why I bought the 2.0l.
Ecoboost?
Question?? I noticed you didn't mention anything about getting it rebuilt ? As one of the options?? Might be the same as getting one from the dealership if there's one available from there
Hey man great video, looking at purchasing a 2019 Ford escape with 45000 kms 1.5L turbo. Is this a issue with the 2019's aswell? Or is this previous models? An answer to this will save me so much money please respond, thank you!
Only the early build 19s had a old block design. The one built after April 9 of 2019 are new block design.
I have a 2018 Escape with 19000. No problems yet but I'm thinking of trading for a Subaru Forester( I now wish I would have gotten that, it was my 1st choice). I can't believe Ford after making this SUV since 2013 could make such an engineering screw-up. It's either that or get the longest power train warranty possible. Either way, I take a financial hit due to Ford. Certainly never buy another one.
Yeah I can understand your frustration. All of The ford line isn’t as bad as this engine. If you do decide to go back with a ford I would recommend looking at the 11-19 explorers with the 3.5 cyclone engine. Those are very durable SUV’s. Other than a costly water pump repair at 150K-200k miles I haven’t seen any problems with them. Can’t say much for the foresters, the only subarus I have messed with has been the older ones. What year model are you looking at?
I had a 93 Subaru wagon I bought used in 97 with 45k on it. Gave it to my son in 2012 (over 200k), he drove it for three years and sold it to a friend (250k), and as far as I know the engine/trans have never been cracked. So had a good experience with Subaru. If I go back with Subaru probably a 18 or 19 Forester. The Explorer is really overkill for my needs but the reliability is good to hear. Costs money to trade and I don't see Ford making good on this engine after the warranty expires unless the number of repairs becomes more of a public issue. Just didn't have good luck with my year/model choice. Thanks for the reply and good luck with your channel.
I really appreciate it. I hope your Subaru does good for you.
Cool i liked your video... talking some real sence...
Have you guys had any issues arise yet with the new 2020 Ford Escape with the 3 cylinder? I know they’re still fairly newer but I just bought one and curious how reliability has been so far.
I actually haven’t had to work on one yet.
I just bought my first new car. A 2020 escape with the 1.5L I3. Hopefully that doesn’t have these issues.
No that is a different engine than the one in this video.
@@FlyingWrenches13 yeah I guess I should have worded that differently. I hope the 3 cylinders don’t develop these issues.
It shouldn’t. I haven’t seen a whole lot of issues out of them so far.
If I have this engine in my 2018 Fusion SE, but have yet to have any symptoms from this particular issue, would the way I drive make a difference? Or is it just inevitable??
Damnnn I really wanted to pick up a blacked out escape but I don’t think I can take the risk with the 1.5L. Any idea on how hard/expensive it would be to drop a 2.5L in?
Thanks! Really enjoying your content man gives a great insight
You should be able to buy an escape with the 2.5 already in it. Might be a little harder to find . Thanks for the comment. Hard to believe anyone actually likes listening to me talk haha.
My whole thing is that I want the features of a higher trim rather than just the base model. I believe there was an option for tossing the 2.5 in but not for 2017+ model years which has the sport appearance. I suppose I could just buy a 1.5 or 2.0 and run it until the engine goes and toss in that 2.5😂
But yeah great stuff, you’re informative and you tell it how it is.
Thanks! Hopefully you find what your looking for.
There was a TSB (technical service bulletin) out on this issue with the 1.5. I own a 2017 Fusion. I got a letter from Ford to have this addressed. There is a belt driven water pump on these engines and there is an auxiliary electric water pump. What this TSB does is wire the electric water pump to continue to run for approximately 3 minutes after engine is shut off/parked car. The idea was that this leak was happening while the engine was still hot and shut off/stopped. This pump continuing to run cools the engine so to avoid a heat sink problem. I had this done while still in the 3/36 B to B warranty at no charge. My Fusion was a leftover that I bought new 2/13/2018. So the engine is still warranted internally till 2/13/2023. I only have about 5000 miles on the car as I am retired and have an F150 I use too. I have not lost any coolant so I don't have this problem "YET" and the TSB kept it at bay??? Or the fact I only have 5000 miles on it and do not use it much????
I will probably trade it in or sell it B 4 2/13/2023. The Customer satisfaction program is 19B37. Good luck.
Have they redesigned the new long block to eliminate The water intrusion problem or is it the same exact motor that came in your car and will have the same problem again and 60 or 100,000 miles
What about the 1.5L ecoboost engine in the new Ford Escape 2021 , does it has the same problem?
It’s a different engine. 3 cylinder is the new one. The old one that had all the issues was a 4 cylinder.
I just bought a used 2015 fusion with this engine from a sold as is dealership and now this has happened and I have to replace the engine myself. The question I've been trying to get answered that nobody seems to know is can I replace the 1.5l ecoboost with one of the other models of engine like the 2l or 2.5? I don't wanna spend all this money on the same engine and have the same thing happen.
Hello. I'm going to buy a 2019 Escape. The exact date of production is May 31, 2019. According to Ford information, the problem concerns cars produced until April 8, 2019. Can I be calm or better to let go of the purchase?
You should be okay with that build date.
My 2016 escape with the 1.6 was doing the same thing. Had long block replaced under warrenty. Is this same problem?
Yeah the 1.5, 2.0, and 1.6 all have the same issue. The 1.5 is by far the worst though!
Going through this problem now. My local for dealership I bought my fusion at is saying $9200 to replace the long block…😳😢
Ouch that hurts
Same here, same price up in Canada. Ugh
5k motor 25.5hrs labor
Bought the 2021 bronco sport 1.5L eco boost super charged. Would it replicate this issue?
No it’s a different 1.5 in the bronco.
My 2014 has this problem but doesnt qualify for the recall. My vin isn't listed on the recall. $8500 otherwise to fix it.
Hate to hear that. I would get multiple quotes from dealers. $8500 sounds a little high.
Sounds like the new Bronco Sport has this motor. Hopefully the Bronco has the newer revision block without the coolant slots.
The Bronco Sport has the 1.5L three cylinder Ecoboost engine, NOT to be confused with the problematic 1.5L four cylinder EcoBoost engine referenced in the video.
After Ford realized they had a problem they modified the 1.5 after a certain date, so it is the earlier built 1.5 engines that have this issue. If you have the issue they replace the block with the newer improved 1.5 engine See my in depth post at 8-19-2021 above.
I was told by the previous owner of my 2016 Fusion 1.5 that the car was taken to a dealer and fixed. How can I tell if the dealer replaced the engine with a short or long block? I assume, like you said, that they put in a short block. If so, does this replacement short block fix the issue long term?
I would call the dealership and ask, if you know what dealership it was taken to. I had the same thing happen, and they only replaced the short block for mine. From what I understand, that's all ford is willing to replace under warranty. The problem is, it's not a long term fix. It gets you another few thousand miles then blows again. I'm in the works with an attorney over it, I'm so fed up with ford and this piece of crap they manufactured. They knew they were putting out bad engines and continued to do so. There's also a class action lawsuit against ford right now over these engines. They have not done right by their customers at all.
Did this issue continue into the 2020 Escapes with the 1.5 3cyl? My mother is considering one and I want to make sure she isn't making a big mistake
Is there and prevention to this like just changing your head gasket before the problem arrises? Or will coolant just leak into them cylinders whenever it pleases
no matter what ya do:(
Haha hey awesome you answered some of my question.. so...I get a used block I get that part number and make sure it's was a rebuild block before a certain date? Or.. how I'll I know where!! Should I get a 1.5l block fromm I don't want to go back down that rabbit whole
I guess I’m confused on what your asking. Your most likely not gonna find a used “updated engine block”. If it was me I would go with a long block from Ford.
@@FlyingWrenches13 sorry for the confusion. And oh ok I wasn't sure if thr long block would work for the 1.5 I thought those where for the 2.0
The only difference between a long block and a short block is what comes with it. Short block is just the block, rods, pistons. Long block comes with all of that plus new head, new oil pump, oil pan, and cams.
@@FlyingWrenches13 thank you so much for the knowledge
remeber i heard about it, with the 2.3 focus rs to when launched
Tons of them in the Lemon Law Lot down in Atlanta. Fixed but nobody trusts them
I HAVE a 14 Fusion AWD 2.0 and a 13 Escape 2.0 AWD.
Both over 183000km. I guess if I had this problem ,it would already have happened✌
I wouldn’t rule it out yet. Some won’t start until mileage gets way up.
I hate to say it, mine has 297,000k and its just starting!!! 1.5L
@@kenkirby202 With that milage,you definitely got your money's worth.
@@wst8340 I agree. I am very happy with what I got. Now deciding if I find an engine or let it go.
What’s the difference between the long block and the short block replacement. I have this issue and the dealership wants to do a short block replacement. Should I insist on the long block?
If your footing the bill or an extended warranty company is, I would make them do a long block. Unfortunately if it’s still under base warranty ford is only going to pay for the short block. The main difference is that a short block is just the rotating assembly. So basically it’s just the block, crankshaft, rods, and pistons. It doesn’t come with anything else. You have to remove everything such as oil pan, oil pump, cylinder head, water pump, cams, valve cover, and a lot of other things from your current engine and put them onto the new rotating assembly. Where as a long block includes all of those things I just mentioned. Hope that makes a little more sense.
I wish I would have seen this video when it came out I probably would have still been under warranty. All of these things you talked about have happened but slowly over time. The last two oil changes the shop said your coolant was low so we added some. I'm thinking I don't recall seeing any leaks? Check engine light flash a couple times but would then go off so the next oil change I said some mornings it seems to run little rough, its over 50K lets change the spark plugs. ok sir.. no problem.. oh and we had to top off your coolant. .Again?? Couple months go by and the check light comes back on but this time stays on, car is now running rough. Call to make an appointment for service where I bought it, sorry sir, we are booked solid through the 4th of July. wow .. ok. Drove the car to work the next day, light was on but car was fine..get home , park out front.. huh that exhaust smells funny, I hope that's not coolant? wow, This thing might need a head gasket. The next morning car won't start. is that the starter? sounds funny? Oh no it's probably the timing belt.. So I have it towed to a local mechanic tell him its a no start issue. The next day he calls and tells me that the motor is toast. No compression in two cylinders. They are junk motors and they all have problems he says.He tells me he doesn't do motors and I should take it back to the dealership. ok, tow the car to the dealership. Sorry Sir can't help you you're out of warranty. Now I'm at 62000 and ford or the place I bought it won't cover anything. Im basically screwed. Ford is telling me 7K other shops I have inquired are talking 5K. How can I put that kind of money out on a car that's worth about 8K on a trade in? I'm really at loss as to what to do. Little over 2 years ago I bought a nice loaded 2016 fusion SE with 34k on it. Dark gray, black rims and trim nice looking car! One owner ,perfect car fax, I love it , drives great handles well, and its basically now junk. I have.. what.. 3 years of payments left. I guess my only option at this point is a junk yard motor, do it my self and then immediately trade it in and cut my losses. If I try to trade it in not running I'll get maybe 1k, I really wish I saw this video 2000 miles ago. Thanks for the info anyway. Now at least I know its not me its Ford!
Thanks for the detailed story! Man I hate that happened to you like that. I would call and raise hell with ford until they give you some assistance. The dealer also could help you out some with ford if they were willing. If you had complained about it before the warranty ran out and the dealer has record of that it should be covered. Hope you get some help on it!
I'm dealing with this right now. I was told i need a new engine my the mechanic, but can't I just change the engine block? I seen the Technical service bulletin and it was say to Change the head gasket and the engine block
Hi. Will any other automatic transmission bolt onto the earlier model NA 1.6 engine, So i can throw away the crappy dual clutch tranny? Thanks
Okay so, I have a 2017 Fusion with a 1.5l Ecoboost. I bought it in 2018 with 78k miles on it, and it now has about 133k. I haven't had to put a drop of coolant in it, I take it in for regular maintenance, and i change the oil and filters regularly. am i just dumb lucky?
Question : once this issue fixed is this car reliable?
Is it possible to change my 1.5L escape and convert it to a 2L? I read the 1.5 has a short stroke crankshaft, I don’t know if I can just switch it out and would I have to buy a 2L ecu and other electronics?
Is this the same engine and issues in the 22 bronco sport looking at getting one for the wife I think there a 3 cylinder not a 4
No sir, the new 3 cyl 1.5 is a completely different engine.
I just bought the 2021 escape hybrid SE. Any thoughts or opinions you’ve seen so far?
I haven’t really worked on many 20+ escapes. Which usually is a good thing haha. I really like the hybrids though!
Does the 2020 Ford Fusion SE with the 1.5 EcoBoost have the same problem?
My car is still financed. it be better to pay for a long block with no turbo to be installed. You mentioned about another engine.
Yeah I would recommend going with a long block. Less issues down the road. Especially if your keeping it.
How about the 1 liter 3 cylinder intrusion into the transaxle
This happened about 6 months ago on my 2017 escape 1.5 L. Had white exhaust and check engine for about a week. Then it went away with my oil change. How did it stop? And should I expect this to happen again?
Ummm it probably ran out of coolant to make smoke. So yeah its probably going to start overheating.
hey bro i got a 2018 ford escape 1.5L quick question how does the starter mount?? i googled n cant find any info thanks
Out of warranty, boring the cracked liners out and fitting new custom ones is a common solution, but I love in a land of cheap labor and free healthcare, anyhow it's already fairly common to do with the older 1.6 EB
How many 2.0’s have you seen with this problem? They have a tsb for the same issue on the twin scroll version. I traded my 1.5 Fusion when this happened for a 2.0 Edge and really hope I didn’t trade 1 problem for the same problem!
I’ve seen a few 2.0’s but not as many as the 1.5. They do have the same problem though. I usually try to talk people out of the 4 cylinder eco boost engines all together. Boost= less longevity.
Thanks for the reply! I have ESP though 2023 so hopefully if it goes it happens before then! I love the torque of the turbo but no doubt the non turbo lasts longer
I have a 2016 fusion titanium with the 2.0 and having this issue now at 140k
does this affect the bronco eco sport 1.5?
It doesn’t affect any 1.5 engine after 2019.
What about focus? I’m on about to buy one. Please advise
My 2018 Ford Escape 1.5 liter engine, at 51,000 miles, was just replaced with the newly designed engine. Ford paid for the engine and car rental fees also.
Girl brought a 2014 fusion in the other week and said her boyfriend snapped a spark plug AND the easy out off in the head. Cost her $2000 labor to pull. I pulled it (it was definitely a pain in the ass) and it cracked the head. Called the dealer and they actually kept the heads for these things IN STOCK. That’s never a good thing!
What about 1.5 focus eco boost 150 hp 2014-2018 year. Europe hot hatch…
I think that is the same engine. We don’t have any 1.5 focuses in the US so I’m not for sure.
The engine block is the same. I haven't read mucht about this issue but there are reports of complete engine failure where cylinder 2 seems to crack. I don't know if it is related to this issue though.
Strange thing is that most reports of that engine failure is for cars with an automatic transmission (6F35).
The 1.5 Ecoboost 4 cilinder has been used in Europe from 2015 for the mk3 Focus facelift and in the C-Max among others (Fusion/Mondeo).
From 2019 onwards the Focus has a 3 cilinder 1.5 Ecoboost.
For the 4 cilinder there are however a lot of failures caused by tuning. Most software tuners don't take the torque limits into account.
To use an old diesel & racing trick, can these blocks or heads be o-ringed?
I have 2015 fusion eco boost and went to dealership they are charging me 5800 for the new motor swap u said something about long block do I tell them I want the long block I have the paper with estimate saying part number 6009 engine short block so will it work