EV Association Director EXPOSES the Shocking Truth!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ธ.ค. 2024
- I had the pleasure of speaking with Andrew Batiuk., Director at the EV Association of Alberta about the challenges and exciting developments happening in a part of Canada where many assume EVs, especially EV trucks, are not being adopted.
Numbers speak louder than words. Despite political and corporate headwinds, Alberta is full of surprises!
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I watched a video from Transport Evolved News (TEN) and they said that the biggest users of electricity are AI computers not EVs. Great video.
Exactly.
Data centres are proliferating at an alarming rate to process massive AI, big data, cloud, crypto currency, as well as online gaming demands, and is outpacing all other energy demands other than the industrial sector (which includes a massive amount of oil & gas). It's reached a point where these companies are building their own power plants.
Thanks for adding to the discussion. I really appreciate it.
Don't forget how much electricity every pump jack uses.
I think the solution though for not enough electricity is to make it nearly impossible to put up renewable electricity. At least here in Alberta
Heavy /sarcasm in case it wasn't obvious.
As of last week we are a dual EV household in rural southern Alberta. (Lightning and EV9) We are 50 min from the nearest city and 3 hours from the nearest major city, I have lost count how many times I have been told EVs aren't practical for Albertans and that what I'm doinging is impossible.
@@shaneb9160 I wonder how your viewpoint will change if you had your power limited so that others can charge. The grid can’t and won’t support everyone plugging in to charge. The govt of Canada has no plans to increase the capacity to the level needed. So if your power was being cut off regularly, to the point where you can’t actually charge both vehicles, would it be time to get an ice vehicle again, or just stay home more often?
@@SB-xu8pi What makes you think everyone needs to charge their EV at the same time? I've owned two Hyundai EVs over 4 years and the main issue in Ontario, at least, is the poor reliability of the infrastructure and lack of chargers in rural areas, not an overloading of the power grid.
Edit: Also, many factories have been outsourced resulting in no need to upgrade the infrastructure.
We live 45 minutes from the nearest centre, poor charging opportunities, but our Tesla model 3 long range is our daily driver even at -20 and windy snowfall. We were surprised how easy it is. Where we live winter gas is a challenge. Everyone has gerrymandering cans of gas in their garages as backup.
@@SB-xu8pi The only threat to the grid, if we're actually utilizing facts, is from AI, data centres, online gambling and crypto - all of which are the fastest growing sectors of energy demand, but still behind Oil & Gas as the #1 increase in energy demand in Alberta.
The grid can more than handle it, especially being that 20% of all vehicles sold today are already evs, and most charge at home, and total residential electricity use only accounts for under 7% of all electricity demand in the province. So again, false.
Meanwhile, renewable energy development is being irrationally restricted by the current Alberta government, laughably citing 'environmental and scenic view concerns, as a protectionist move to the traditional energy sector. Meanwhile, O&G has been doing massive damage to agricultural lands and destroying massive swaths of 'scenic views' for over a century.
So if you're concerned about grid development and expansion of cheap affordable energy in Alberta, it's not the Government of Canada but the Alberta one restricting the capacity, and it's not evs gobbling up the grid.
@@elainebradley8213 A little fact ICE vehicle owners tend to 'overlook'. Try getting diesel in many parts of Ontario, Quebec, and the Maritimes. Thus, the tidy tank.
In 2014 the SmartForTwo ED was also available
Nice catch, Yves! You are 100% correct.
Love it. You're doing the work Simon! Cheers
Thanks for always supporting me!
I plan on ordering a Silverado EV LT this week for towing my RV. I’ll trade in my 21 Sierra and I expect it to tow better and get approx. same mileage but will cost much less than gas. Especially charging at home.
Nice! I am still incredibly interested in that truck, especially with the introduction of the new trim and the prices coming down. It singlehandedly ended the towing range worry for ev trucks.
Send pics via email when you pick it up!
What good is towing to a Provincial Park or boondocking if you can't charge the truck back up? Have you researched the cost to charge? Almost as expensive or even more expensive then if you used an ICE vehicle. You need to carefully plan your trips and hope that the chargers you count on are actually working. Good luck with that.
I am very familiar with the charging infrastructure here in NB, Canada. I convinced the wife to purchase and Equinox EV and we really enjoy the trips we have taken with and I’m up on the costs of charging. I would have no problem making it to all the campgrounds we used to visit with my gasser and I don’t mind setting up camp and then taking the time to charge it at a fast charger prior coming home. If I was in the states it might be a different story with towing and the costs of charging vs. Gas. When your talking $1.60+ per litre and the truck holding 100 litres, it not hard to see the cost savings. If we were taking long camping trips and having to disconnect the camper that might be more of a pain but I don’t see that happening or it being a 1 time during the year event. My current problem is the charging infrastructure in Nova Scotia. It’s terrible
@@ScubaSteveCanada I suggest researching the vehicle they're ordering.
Even the most expensive DCFCs are still half the price of gas for the same range. And his truck can tow an equal range to most ICE trucks, even at maximum payload, which is 12,000 pounds.
Carefully plan your trip? You mean like diesel, where many gas stations off the beaten path still don't always have it ( I passed through numerous communities with none), to the point where if travelling long distances, many diesel truck guys rely on the app DieselFinder, to stitch their trip route based on fuel availability.
Take a quick moment of research to visit the main page of Plugshare in your research and note the massive number of chargers today across the country, including hyper-fast chargers being installed, but there are provinces that suck, yes. Saskatchewan and Manitoba both have issues, and I've looked and planned for Nova Scotia's supposedly abysmal 'network'. I've driven to Yukon, Flin Flin and all stops in between with an electric truck with 150km less towing range than @havnfunb4, so I think he'll be fine.
Their planning will involve jumping in their truck, because its onboard trip planner determines when the truck needs to charge, plans the best route, and preloads charging stops en route. Even if one charger is down, there is usually others available, unless in remote regions, where gas is of equal concern. The Silverado EV also charges at 350kw, which means the wait times will be minimal.
Lastly, most campsites with plugs welcome ev trucks with rvs to plug in on site, something you definitely can't do with an ICE truck. So, as I discovered at campsites in every province I've travelled, I've woken up to a full truck for free.
Luck has nothing to do with it. It does depend on region but, for the most part, especially with the Silverados incredible range, he shouldn't have a worry.
I am picking up a lightning flash next weekend. It will be a work truck and because of bc hydros roll out of chargers into small centres, I can now comfortably start exploring the switch over of my small ice fleet of trucks to electric. I do not see a complete switch over but certainly 3 of 6.
That's amazing Roland! Do you mind sharing a little bit about your company?
When it comes to how I travel, I just want options that’s all. V8 are great, but I also want an AFFORDABLE ev option. But that’s the key….affordability
I think you might be surprised. A person can buy a Lightning Pro for less than most V8s. SIlverado EV just came down in price and now has equivalent range to an ICE truck for around the same price points.
Keep in mind that if buying a gas truck, you're paying extra for 4x4, larger V8, high end stereo and other comforts. All of that comes standard with every trim of an ev truck (every model has two motors instead of one).
If think we need to see a smaller version, like a Colorado, Ranger/Maverick, or Tacoma-sized ev truck. That would be amazing.
For those that it works for, I think EVs are fine. My wife bought a Kona EV thinking she would save money on fuel. After 3 months of range anxiety (it's real) and inconvenient charging at home and/or expensive public charging, she traded it in for a gas engine vehicle (and lost 20K doing it). This is just the reality for some. Hydrogen EV may be a good alternative in the future, who knows. The Ramcharger may be promising too.
That is unfortunate news. I haven't heard of DCFCs costing more than gas, or charging at home being somehow inconvenient. Did you hook up a NEMA 14-50 plug and charge at Level 2 at home, or were you trickle charging at Level 1 off a regular 110 outlet? I wake up to a full ev at home and never have to use fast chargers. I guess she had really long commutes?
I'm interested in the region you live where this is a big problem. There are more remote or protectionist areas where range anxiety is still a thing, but it is rapidly disappearing. In fact, as I drive all of Canada, only in two provinces on long trips, or when going into the least populated parts of the country do I find serious gaps anymore.
Surprised you two found parking there!
I was kicked out when I visited on my bicycle because it did not need a charge.
Sorry James! I missed this comment in my feed.
That sucks. Did you stop by for the tour Stop?
@@truckedupevs No: I headed down on my own volition because I could not find any information on the actual chargers.
The website just says they are "fast" and compatible with a bunch of brand names.
Plugshare was set to filter for sites with CHAdeMO chargers, so was not showing up there either.
In the United States, in Michigan back roughly in 2013,14 15 when they passed the law that you could grow marijuana in your house as a caregiver, there were thousands and thousands of guys hooking up massive lighting systems in their basements, and nothing ever happened with power outages so I know that Evies are not going to tax the electrical grid very much
Air conditioners, electric ranges, and refrigerators drew huge current from the grid when introduced. Even today, there are brownouts from overuse during droughts, etc. The gird was expanded and modernized as the use of electricity increased. This is no different. As mentioned in the video, if people are genuinely worried about the grid being over taxed, they should question cloud storage, data centres and oil and gas expansion, being all three are the fastest growing users of energy.
Thanks for the comment, Michael!
Your up coming mining video. Are you going to ask how to get electricity from the mine? Out of spec is saying, charging stations in the US are getting better.
Charging stations are improving everywhere. In Canada, there has been a notable difference.
Mining video will be out in 1~2 weeks (I release 1 video per week to ensure I don't go insane )
When you consider a gas engine at 30% efficiency a natural gas electricity generation plant providing electricity to vehicles makes sense.
The oil cartel will do and say anything to try to stop evs, but ev sales continue to increase, even with that propaganda.
A Linkedin article I read recently shows that in the US, cryptocurrency "mining" used more electricity in 2023 than was used in the state of Utah that year.
Don't those statistics really show you how few EVs there are? I guarantee you that unless the companies can make a profit at this, they will continue to make the over-priced high end EVs that the average person cannot afford. That will result in a lack of mass adoption. Now with the 100% tariffs against Chinese EVs and their components, the curve is declining in EV sales, no longer the juicy curve Ford & GM were anticipating.
@@ScubaSteveCanada The Linkedin article didn't make a comparison between evs and crypto; it showed that crypto alone was drawing more electricity than an entire US State.
Furthermore, I'm not sure how you're overlooking the fact that ev sales are far outpacing ICE vehicle sales, and that world sales are doing nothing but going up www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2024/trends-in-electric-cars
@ScubaSteveCanada - My comment says or intones nothing about the number of evs. In early 23, my Bolt euv Lt was $42,000 out-the-door, when the average price of a new vehicle in Canada was $66,000 plus taxes and fees. Battery prices are falling rapidly, and getting better, concurrently.
@@ScubaSteveCanada - I'm always amused when evs are called expensive (some are), when the best-selling vehicles in Canada and the US are expensive buy, expensive to insure, and expensive to fuel full-sized pickup trucks.
Good video. I love your myth busting. What is your average km per kwh up to this point and how many have you driven on your nice new truck? Also I was curious what your thoughts were on normal vs sport mode for efficiency. It seems when I get a software update that my trip data gets erased and restarted at zero. Is it possible to access the statistics in a different way? Lifetime stats of the truck? I just hit 11k on my Silver XLT ER and love getting into it every day I can. I have the plug in Pacifica also and had it before the Lightning and am still very impressed with that also. But the ride in the XLT is better.....considerably. And the all electric range. AND ITS A TRUCK LOL!!! But my van has some very good points and very good fuel savings. Continued happy travels to you 👍
Thanks as always for the great comments and support!
I have topped 13k on the odometer; 11,800 of those are the trip.
My efficiency has sucked, mainly due to the fact that I drove headlong into the worst prairie windstorm of the season, which continued for over a week - and no matter which direction I went, it liked to shift also and buffet my front bumper.
Overall trip range is at 30.3kwh/100km, but the moment I left the prairies, the most recent 3k has improved to 28.7kwh/100km. The combined climate use, accessories, and exterior temp have average a paltry 7% of overall energy use, which is incredibly good, especially being the outside temperature is dropping to freezing at some points, and I am not plugging in overnight for the most part.
I have turned off my automatic software updates to ensure it doesn't wipe all my data away. I'm using Trip 1 to track the overall numbers, Trip 2 for each province, and my My Trip - well, it's kind of useless being it doesn't give you an option not to clear every time you stop for coffee or bathroom break.
I absolutely love the ride quality - being it's a truck - and the comfort of the interior is pretty impressive, being I' sitting in it for 12 hours per day.
Thanks again, and chat soon!
Where is my minivan EV? KIA EV9 is the only option, but no trunk space (need to load a wheelchair). Oh and i don't want to pay $80k lol.
There are amazing options in China but likely only going to make their way to S. America and Europe due to tariffs.
It's a missing segment, for certain. The vehicles that fit the bill are all expensive.
I think we'll get there as more models hit the market. Does the Chevy Equinox or Blazer EV fit the bill? Both are closer to a minivan and are very inexpensive. I'm not sure about rear access space for the wheelchair though.