Katherine may just be the most iconic and interesting Vampire in any Vampire related media she has the complexity of a Game of Thrones character she is a masterpiece and we got to thank Nina Dobrev for that she definitely doesn’t get enough praise for her talent!
Katherine is not the most iconic and there are better and more complex vampires than her in the tvdu alone and most major tvdu charecters are more complex than the ones in game of thrones
She had potential.. if they had cast Victoria Justice as Elena and Nina as Katherine then we talking lol but Nina couldn't play both characters without overworking herself thus the Katherine storyline is spotty.
When comparing Klaus to her, I think she’s much smarter then him,he hoes by brawn and she goes by brain even if she has her brawn. She always knew what to do at what moment and she could trick anyone into doing anything,and I would say that that’s her true power.
She is nowhere near smarter than him which she states herself in season 3 and she is made in his image lile many other sirelings of his so a copy of him in some regards but Klaus is the better of them all.
@@ogilongnose1115 Why are you going to all the comments giving Katerina praise and speaking negatively? It's their opinion. Katerina was smart and cunning. She knew where to hurt people and she knew how to get what she wanted, all the while being hunted down by an "unkillable" vampire/hybrid. She used her looks, her smarts, her raw power and anger to get everything she wanted, and 8/10 times she got it. She had a terrible end of her human life that we know, and it definitely shaped her. Her daughter was ripped from her hands, then she was surrounded by the worlds oldest vampires who wanted to kill her to break a curse. She said to Nadia that after she was ripped away from her, she'd never let anything like that happen again, and she meant it. I choose Katerina over Elena (and a lot of others) all day.
I will since she was smart in the earlier seasons but the later seasons when she was starting to get mad about the fact is she could never have Stephen when she should’ve realized that her hurting him so much was the point where she don’t deserve him But when she became human it didn’t make no difference she was afraid of death and being alone
Agreed I knew someone who worked as a prison guard( she was my private duty nurse at the time) she always said that the womens prisons were more dangerous because women weren’t quick to action and messed with your minds more, they were more manipulative. My thinking - Men tend to let their anger get the best of them and let it out quicker. Whereas smart manipulative women will keep their emotions in check until such time as it becomes useful. They take their time getting revenge. Whereas you piss Klaus off he won’t think twice about ripping your heart out snd that’ll be that. Katherine left Damon pining for 200(?) yrs.
@@mcnoneya You seem to be mistaking it for a sexist matter. Klaus is far smarter and more manipulative than Katherine but he doesn't have insane female beauty to do his work for him.
For real, the only reason Katherine is the villain is because she tried to hurt Elena. All of the other characters do awful things. Even Damon killed Jeremy once and got lucky with the ring, but he got forgiven. Stefan and Damon both betray people frequently, but they're not villains.
Damon is the true villain here. How can they forgive him? I still can’t believe that Caroline forgave Damon. I mean wtf… after everything he did to her. And still Damon blames Katherine for the person he is🤷♂️
@@aronsmith2688 Damon, Stefan, Lily, Giuseppe, Katherine, Kol, Niklaus, Rebekah, Elijah, Finn, Freya, Esther, Dahlia, Mikael, Silas, Quesiyah, And most other peoples within the show could go back and forth from heroism to villainy to centerline yeah.
Katherine was such a better character compared to Elena. Elena was IMO almost unlikable and unrelatable. You can see how much fun Nina Dobrev had playing Katherine. Plus my favorite VD character was Caroline just because she had IMO the best character arc out of them all.
She abandoned the boys because she had to. She was literally on the run . From none other than Klaus Michaelson himself. Of course she prioritized her survival. It truly enrages me that KP is demonized for her selfishness while at the same time EG is hated (unintentionally on the writers part )for her martyrdom. Did KP do some awful things? Yes. Anything worse than Damon, Klaus , the Rippah , Enzo or any other male characters? Not even close . And yet nearly all of these male characters got their heroic and or happy ending. The female villains? Haze code ending. Every single one of them. TVD is not a decent universe for women which means the sooner you become a Katherine Pierce apologizer, the higher your chances are of having a life worth living. That lesson may or may not apply to the real world as well. That’s all.
It’s because the guys are hot. 🙄 and she broke both the main boys hearts and even noble Elijah who though he often sides with his brother he actually I think has a good well meaning heart but family always comes first unfortunately for him his family happens to have short tempered killer with a fragile ego and serious daddy issues.
That being said if I’m to think about things from kathrines perspective her daughter was taken from her, she’d been tricked and hunted down by her so called suitors(Klaus and Elijah) this having trouble trusting just about anyone forcing her to be on the run for most of her vampiric life. She had to learn to be smart and outsmart the boys and fast, a little easy since men tend to be more easily angered then women and tend to be more likely to throw down then throw words. ( whoever said “sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me, has never been to a womens prison) She had a tragic life (I’m including her vampiric life) she was merely surviving, I’m not condoning her actions saying they were good more that I understand her perspective and maybe a little bit why she did the things she did.
@@mcnoneya Then she should of never bothered with The Salvatores then they were a family that was too out in the open and not very underground to avoid detection or discovery if Katherine was a Pragmatic person at heart she would of chose to feed on criminals and soldiers for food only rather then regular civilians that would be the best way to stay away from The Originals detections.
@@rydell7372 she didn't left her to die Emily bennett her servant was asign to aid them Katherine planned it all She atleast was certain that stefan would survive She feed him his blood The precedent night.
Let’s be honest Katherine is the only one that’s upfront about what she wants they are selfish and evil in their own right but Katherine never hid it. If they treated Katherine differently we would’ve seen another loving side to her
I believe the circumstances before she became a vampire made her more cynical to the world she wanted to survive no matter what and when she changed herself I say that because she orchestrated part of that and had to run even more made her only look out for her own personal gain because she thought better you than I to die
Thing is when she needed to feed why did she target people who were not criminals, child molesters, rapists, murderers, thiefs, or war happy soldiers for food wouldn't those people help her keep a low profile much better then feeding on people that do not fit any of those criterias or curriculums yeah?
Katherine is easily one of the best written female vampire characters, I've been in love with vampire lore & myth for so long so i can say I've seen A LOT of shows and movies based on them. Katherine is a survivor above everything. She'll manipulate, betray, seduce, kill and abandon anyone in a heartbeat if she thinks she'll get an hour headstart from Klaus. Personally i feel like people overlook that she TOOK HER OWN LIFE to become a vampire and escape. back then she was just a young girl not the jaded, paranoid, back-stabbing master manipulator we know 500 years later. that's insanrly traumatic. she made the best out of the worst set of cards she was given and never, ever looked back.
Katherine used people and care only about herself but never pretended other wise. Elena did the same thing she used everyone around her, even if they choice to do it for her she never did anything for anyone else at the end of every arc she was always the most happy one
Kathrine was angry. She felt betrayed, by her parents, by Klaus and Elijah, by life itself so she put her guard up and took what she thought she was owed. Not defending her just trying to see her side of things.
She was evil but not close to being the most evil there are plenty that have done worse then her like Most of the Mikaelsons, Silas, Stefan, Damon, Lily, And plenty others to place in.
She spent 500 years hidding and escaping from Klaus, never achieved real happiness and not trusting anyone. When you get used to get set all by yourself the smartness can be twisted in true evil. That happened to katherine and she was so obssesed to get acknowledged as a Survivor no matter how many people needed to screw up. I think TRULY SELFISH is the best adjective to describe Katherina at least in S1 - S5. After becoming the Queen of Hell I think she became truly evil at realizing she cant get redemption, Burning a whole town just to get revenge against the mystic folks gang that is not what Classic Katherine would do. She would not go that far when was undead/alive I mean she was not an angel but was not a genocide either
I hate that they were reving up to get her a redemption arc and then just threw it away all together. “Have you ever thought that maybe I’m not the girl you think I am”? She says to Damon, and then nothing else is said or heard about it and she dies as a villain, not once but twice.
Great breakdown. She's absolutely a twisted individual. Yes, she had a lot of terrible things happen to her, but Katherine went to places and did things that had nothing to do with the harm done to her, or even to save herself. There were many times when she would lash out with spite, and even after the brothers realised what she was, she would keep trying to play them off against each other for her own shits and giggles.
I just don’t think people would COMPLETELY understand unless you’ve gone what she went through. That’s all I’m saying🤷🏾♂️. plus it’s ridiculous that they gave the originals ESPECIALLY KLAUS a redemption arc and not Katherine considering they done wayyy more horrible disgusting things then she ever did. I don’t think that was fair
@@whistleking3407 The problem wasn't they didn't give her a redemption arc, it's that they constantly bait-and-switched it to double-down on her being a manipulative self-sreving bitch. I absolutely agree that she went through a lot - and that 500 years on the run is enough to twist anyone's personality - but the show constantly made pains to show that any good moments she had were either few and far between, or were manipulations.
As someone who relates to Katherine more then just about any other character in fiction. I can safely say the way you commented on Katherine in this video is rather bold.
Nina Dobrev did a very fine job playing both characters in the regard that the audience was able to tell they were two separate entities although the same actress was playing them. Nina was able to take on the persona of sweet but somewhat immature Elena or more worldly, cynical, emotionally twisted Katherine! Although in the books Elena and Katherine were blonde haired beauties Nina Dobrev was an excellent choice for her acting skills to play the part! Like everything else with the books just one more deviation from the original story by Julie Plec!
I never understood the hype abt Katherine. Her writing was so repetitive; she would leave and come back constantly. Sometimes she helped but more often then not she was just obsessing over Stefan and was jealous of Elena because who wouldn't be. She is bland as a character tbh
Her becoming Queen of Hell and wanting to destroy Mystic Falls and all its people with hellfire has got to b her biggest low. She would've killed a couple thousands of people, adults and kids alike, just to get revenge on the gang for defeating her. She did deserve what she got before her final return, but it seems that she thinks of herself as the alpha and the omega. With Hell gone, my fan-thoughts r of all the souls there who were good r free at peace (Vicki for instance), and all those were evil r being reincarnated. Starting life all over from scratch to do better. Her and Sybil the siren included.
Don’t blame Katherine blame the stupid writers for that. They could’ve made Katherine a grey character like Klaus but refused not to. They gave an original hybrid a redemption arc but not a woman who suffered tremendously because of him and his family.
@@whistleking3407 THANK YOU!!!! and don't get me started on Damon's psychotic ass! he killed Tyler, He killed Lexi, He killed Mason, Zach, Jeremy, and a pregnant woman!, tried to kill Bonnie more than once, he turned her mother into a vampire and he literally sexually assaulted Caroline and he gets to find peace!?
@@jal45100 And let's not talk about the biggest psychopath Klaus. How is it possible for him to find peace and Katherine not? He ruined her life and never apologized. What makes him even more disgusting is the fact that on her deathbed he wanted to see her and laugh with her…WTF🤯🤮 I swear this woman is a true survivor❤️🔥 And for the writers🖕🏻 They destroyed the best character
It's pretty easy to explain. All she even known was taking care of herself, because no one wanted to help her. When she was banished, when she was on the run. No one ever helped her when she was a human, they wanted to use her and kill her, she simply did what she did for her entire life - took care of herself.. Stopped to care about other people's survival, no one cared about hers. She lost everything, so she protected the only thing that left - her survival. On the run for such a long time she desired not just to survive, but also have a life. She also could have been born bit narcissistic, not gonna lie. She gave Stefan her whole heart and he stabbed her into it. Then she lost even the last thing, she cared for. She felt entitled to ruin and destroy everything simply because she found it unfair.
*She’s Elena’s shadow opposite* Elena loves Damon, Kathrine loves Stefan…Kathrine was obsessed with immortality even when she was already one of the strongest vampires of the series, being an ancient vampire..while Elena was willing too instantly die for everyone and being extremely weak in comparison *Katherine’s a survivor* who had no one unlike Elena *who had Everyone!* “you wouldn’t last a day without everyone fawning over you” Kathrine season4 quote *I 100% agree with her*
It’s due to her upbringing and her newborn baby girl were taken her from birth. So she’s wants spiraling down to where she’s currently is ( I think 😵💫😵💫😵💫 ).
even as a human she was trying to survive and did anything to survive. so naturally when she turned into a vampire that will to survive was amplified. and then later on she just became vindictive, but who she was before and a few hundred years after becoming a vampire was just a girl who wanted to live/not die. I think after all the centuries the human parts of her just got pushed down until virtually nothing was left.
Off topic but Katherine never did anything wrong to klaus any sane 17 year old would be scared that a vampire werewolf hybrid would want to kill her for his own selfish reason and klaus himself is a selfish person so for him to want revenge on her for saving her OWN LIFE which is 100% understandable I never understood
was she evil? absolutely do I still love her? yes, she is 1 of my favorite characters but the writes did her dirty do i prefer her over elena? yes, i prefer everyone over elena
I didnt like her much but after rewatching tvd I've looked into her backstory and felt bad her her, i don't hate her but I don't love her. Also respect for her after she went to hell and back and still never turning her humanity off. Icon much
I wonder if Katherine is so smart why didn’t she just befriend Caroline and everyone even if it’s fake just so they can believe that and convince them to make klaus not kill her. Idk I would’ve done that
*Admits that he was never able to read Katherine* *Proceeds to make an entire video about her "evil" personality* Help🥲 she is not unreadable to everyone. And what evil means to people is extremely subjective. I may agree rhat this is why people BELIEVE she is evil but especially when ir came to her intentions, thoughts and feelings I entirely disagree and I would also NEVER call her evil because for me, being in a situation in which putting yourself first means you do something terrible does NOT make you a bad person. Doing something terrible because you want to or for smaller unnecessary reasons or just for fun or out of your mood THAT makes you a bad person in my opinion. Then there were things that were just factually incorrect: Katherine did NOT compel stefan to love her. It was DEFINITELY necessary for her plan to feed Jeremy to Silas, she did not do it for no reason. Katherine never planned on turning the Salvatores into vampires, so she most likely only fed them blood IN CASE they die (just like it also happened). Also I will never understand why people have the opinion that stealing Elena's body was worse than murder. To me it simply sounds like y'all are biased cause it's elena. Oh and btw Elena committed a massmurder WITH humanity switch on.
Lets say elena took that cure and silas took it out of her, she wont age since she is young. then kai came and put her in a coma. nadia and katherine couldve had a relationship and katherine redeemed herself, that would have been a better ending then the stupid ass season 8. She had a rough life, they all understood except damon cause she left him pinning and unloved.
i don't think Katherine is too Evil , i think Elena is worst than Katherine , because many time Elena did terrible and selfish thing but she still pretends to be good person , like everybody gave her excuses and freepass . At least Katherine did pretends to be good .
Was she though??? All Damon and Stefan did was manipulate and murder people in numbers for no reason and were forgiven in a blink of an eye. Katherine did what she did to survive. Every kill she made was to run or someone was in her way for her to run and survive. Katherine was done so dirty! The show really should’ve ended with her returning to Bulgaria free.
Katherine has killed people too because she got off on it and she enjoys pitting people against another and it was not just for her survival or for people that got in front of her yeah.
She was a great villain but she was a callous coward in my opinion. Willing to throw anyone under the bus and I do mean anyone. Anyone she's come in contact with was simply a mean to an end
She wasn’t a coward she was strategic. If she didn’t think she would handle a certain vampire or monster then she’ll used other people to fight her battles while she watched from the sidelines. I would do the same thing 🤷🏾♂️
Coward?? What would you do if your enemy is immortal?? Tell me! Would you fight him😂? Noo never because you have no chance. So the best thing to do was to survive and run from the PSYCHO. God i hate Klaus so much
@@whistleking3407 I absolutely did and running from someone for 500 years, willing to throw any and everyone under the bus is cowardice. I've seen the show several times so f off
And how many years ago was this made and seen by so many? You are a little late on your production! I like the original books of Vampire Diaries but it was bought and mucked up by Julie Plec and or Kevin Williamson and rewritten to fit what they wanted so really you should say which story you are going to comment about! Yes, I am rather disgruntled by the re-write. I have watched films and read the corresponding books and TBH the series Vampire Diaries is only similiar in the fact that it takes the fact of an orphaned pair of siblings and a town that had vampires from there it is totally a story on its on own and yet Julie Plec says it is based on the book! Which I expect it is butg almost in name only! Biggest load of "crock" I have ever heard. Not surprised the author quit after the second series of books as the producers wanted the story to deviate away, which it did, from what the author had envisioned and written! TOTAL BS! The book series Vampire Diaries and the T.V. series are almost two different animals! To add insult to injury Julie Plec had someone else continue to writen the story and Stefans story to keep the interest in the series on T.V.! As said TOTAL B/S BY JULIE PLEC! Yes, although I don't know her nor ever did before V.D. she makes me very angry when I think of what she did to a enjoyable book series! I also feel sad for the author, if only she had realised what she was doing when signing over her book rights! I have read they parted company rather less than amicably!
Oh yeah Katherine was definitely evil and in my opinion I think she's worse than Klaus , yes Klaus has done a lot of messed up and borderline evil things but Klaus isn't without being a little bit honorable and Klaus has saved some lives too even if it's for his own benefit but he still saved lives regardless and Klaus sacrificing his life for his daughter is truly the ultimate redemption that he has done, but Katherine she has lied, manipulated and destroyed so many lives for her own selfish reasons and her trying to destroy Mystic Falls just for the hell of it is just downright evil and in the end Yes Klaus made her become evil in the first place but Katherine has had 500 years to better herself and she never did she died a horrible evil person in the end
Have to disagree she is worse than Klaus. Klaus has done so many terrible things over is 500 plus years lifespan more than Katherine that are just inexcusable and unanswered for. He died for his kid big whoop. So did Katherine and everyone still says she is worse like tf? A large portion of Katherine’s evil acts were done for survival whereas Klaus largely lived without fear of any actual threats besides Michael for the longest time and even had the strength to fight back against such a threat sheared Katherine is 500 years younger and actually has to use her smarts more than just strength.
@@Coven_of_Hags yeah very true, we can a agree one thing both Klaus and Katherine have done inexcusable evil things and have done some really really good things , I feel if you say Klaus is worse your not wrong and if you say Katherine is worse your also not wrong both are very vile messed people with some redeemable characteristics
*She’s Elena’s shadow opposite* Elena loves Damon, Kathrine loves Stefan…Kathrine was obsessed with immortality even when she was already one of the strongest vampires of the series, being an ancient vampire..while Elena was willing too instantly die for everyone and being extremely weak in comparison *Katherine’s a survivor* who had no one unlike Elena *who had Everyone!* “you wouldn’t last a day without everyone fawning over you” Kathrine season4 quote *I 100% agree with her*
Katherine may just be the most iconic and interesting Vampire in any Vampire related media she has the complexity of a Game of Thrones character she is a masterpiece and we got to thank Nina Dobrev for that she definitely doesn’t get enough praise for her talent!
Katherine is not the most iconic and there are better and more complex vampires than her in the tvdu alone and most major tvdu charecters are more complex than the ones in game of thrones
She had potential.. if they had cast Victoria Justice as Elena and Nina as Katherine then we talking lol but Nina couldn't play both characters without overworking herself thus the Katherine storyline is spotty.
@@ogilongnose1115 no sry Kathrine are the best iconic that's fact ,you can talk and talk blah blah, you have not idea
@@ogilongnose1115 umm no she is the most iconic character 😂
When comparing Klaus to her, I think she’s much smarter then him,he hoes by brawn and she goes by brain even if she has her brawn. She always knew what to do at what moment and she could trick anyone into doing anything,and I would say that that’s her true power.
She is nowhere near smarter than him which she states herself in season 3 and she is made in his image lile many other sirelings of his so a copy of him in some regards but Klaus is the better of them all.
@@ogilongnose1115 Why are you going to all the comments giving Katerina praise and speaking negatively? It's their opinion. Katerina was smart and cunning. She knew where to hurt people and she knew how to get what she wanted, all the while being hunted down by an "unkillable" vampire/hybrid. She used her looks, her smarts, her raw power and anger to get everything she wanted, and 8/10 times she got it. She had a terrible end of her human life that we know, and it definitely shaped her. Her daughter was ripped from her hands, then she was surrounded by the worlds oldest vampires who wanted to kill her to break a curse. She said to Nadia that after she was ripped away from her, she'd never let anything like that happen again, and she meant it. I choose Katerina over Elena (and a lot of others) all day.
I will since she was smart in the earlier seasons but the later seasons when she was starting to get mad about the fact is she could never have Stephen when she should’ve realized that her hurting him so much was the point where she don’t deserve him But when she became human it didn’t make no difference she was afraid of death and being alone
Agreed I knew someone who worked as a prison guard( she was my private duty nurse at the time) she always said that the womens prisons were more dangerous because women weren’t quick to action and messed with your minds more, they were more manipulative.
My thinking - Men tend to let their anger get the best of them and let it out quicker. Whereas smart manipulative women will keep their emotions in check until such time as it becomes useful. They take their time getting revenge. Whereas you piss Klaus off he won’t think twice about ripping your heart out snd that’ll be that. Katherine left Damon pining for 200(?) yrs.
@@mcnoneya You seem to be mistaking it for a sexist matter. Klaus is far smarter and more manipulative than Katherine but he doesn't have insane female beauty to do his work for him.
Stefan wasnt compelled by Katherine to love her - she compelled him to not be afraid
One caveat, she never compelled Stefan to love her she only compelled him to not be afraid of her when she revealed her vamperic nature.
For real, the only reason Katherine is the villain is because she tried to hurt Elena. All of the other characters do awful things. Even Damon killed Jeremy once and got lucky with the ring, but he got forgiven. Stefan and Damon both betray people frequently, but they're not villains.
Damon is the true villain here. How can they forgive him? I still can’t believe that Caroline forgave Damon. I mean wtf… after everything he did to her. And still Damon blames Katherine for the person he is🤷♂️
@@aronsmith2688 That's because Damon is incapable of taking responsibility for his actions.
@@aronsmith2688 Damon, Stefan, Lily, Giuseppe, Katherine, Kol, Niklaus, Rebekah, Elijah, Finn, Freya, Esther, Dahlia, Mikael, Silas, Quesiyah, And most other peoples within the show could go back and forth from heroism to villainy to centerline yeah.
Katherine was such a better character compared to Elena. Elena was IMO almost unlikable and unrelatable. You can see how much fun Nina Dobrev had playing Katherine. Plus my favorite VD character was Caroline just because she had IMO the best character arc out of them all.
Yes totally agree about katherine she was a better character
She abandoned the boys because she had to. She was literally on the run . From none other than Klaus Michaelson himself. Of course she prioritized her survival. It truly enrages me that KP is demonized for her selfishness while at the same time EG is hated (unintentionally on the writers part )for her martyrdom.
Did KP do some awful things? Yes.
Anything worse than Damon, Klaus , the Rippah , Enzo or any other male characters? Not even close .
And yet nearly all of these male characters got their heroic and or happy ending.
The female villains? Haze code ending. Every single one of them.
TVD is not a decent universe for women which means the sooner you become a Katherine Pierce apologizer, the higher your chances are of having a life worth living. That lesson may or may not apply to the real world as well.
That’s all.
It’s because the guys are hot. 🙄 and she broke both the main boys hearts and even noble Elijah who though he often sides with his brother he actually I think has a good well meaning heart but family always comes first unfortunately for him his family happens to have short tempered killer with a fragile ego and serious daddy issues.
That being said if I’m to think about things from kathrines perspective her daughter was taken from her, she’d been tricked and hunted down by her so called suitors(Klaus and Elijah) this having trouble trusting just about anyone forcing her to be on the run for most of her vampiric life. She had to learn to be smart and outsmart the boys and fast, a little easy since men tend to be more easily angered then women and tend to be more likely to throw down then throw words. ( whoever said “sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me, has never been to a womens prison) She had a tragic life (I’m including her vampiric life) she was merely surviving, I’m not condoning her actions saying they were good more that I understand her perspective and maybe a little bit why she did the things she did.
Girl bye she left them there to die and they had to adjust to being vampires all on their own, she was selfish and wrong
@@mcnoneya Then she should of never bothered with The Salvatores then they were a family that was too out in the open and not very underground to avoid detection or discovery if Katherine was a Pragmatic person at heart she would of chose to feed on criminals and soldiers for food only rather then regular civilians that would be the best way to stay away from The Originals detections.
@@rydell7372 she didn't left her to die
Emily bennett her servant was asign to aid them
Katherine planned it all
She atleast was certain that stefan would survive
She feed him his blood
The precedent night.
Katherine was not evil, she was efficient🤣
Let’s be honest Katherine is the only one that’s upfront about what she wants they are selfish and evil in their own right but Katherine never hid it. If they treated Katherine differently we would’ve seen another loving side to her
I loved the character Kathrine. She was my all time favorite. Her and Damon.
I believe the circumstances before she became a vampire made her more cynical to the world she wanted to survive no matter what and when she changed herself I say that because she orchestrated part of that and had to run even more made her only look out for her own personal gain because she thought better you than I to die
Thing is when she needed to feed why did she target people who were not criminals, child molesters, rapists, murderers, thiefs, or war happy soldiers for food wouldn't those people help her keep a low profile much better then feeding on people that do not fit any of those criterias or curriculums yeah?
Katherine is easily one of the best written female vampire characters, I've been in love with vampire lore & myth for so long so i can say I've seen A LOT of shows and movies based on them. Katherine is a survivor above everything. She'll manipulate, betray, seduce, kill and abandon anyone in a heartbeat if she thinks she'll get an hour headstart from Klaus. Personally i feel like people overlook that she TOOK HER OWN LIFE to become a vampire and escape. back then she was just a young girl not the jaded, paranoid, back-stabbing master manipulator we know 500 years later. that's insanrly traumatic. she made the best out of the worst set of cards she was given and never, ever looked back.
Katherine used people and care only about herself but never pretended other wise. Elena did the same thing she used everyone around her, even if they choice to do it for her she never did anything for anyone else at the end of every arc she was always the most happy one
Kathrine was angry. She felt betrayed, by her parents, by Klaus and Elijah, by life itself so she put her guard up and took what she thought she was owed. Not defending her just trying to see her side of things.
She’s an icon. We love her!
Can we please get a video on all the patrova doppelgängers ?! & Bonnie’s witch family , also a video on pearl Katherine’s BESTFRIEND
You should do a video explaining the subject of doppelgangers how Doppelgangers started how they play a part in TVD
She was evil but not close to being the most evil there are plenty that have done worse then her like Most of the Mikaelsons, Silas, Stefan, Damon, Lily, And plenty others to place in.
Because she's the QUEEN.
We want to see The Life of Katherine Pierce.
She spent 500 years hidding and escaping from Klaus, never achieved real happiness and not trusting anyone. When you get used to get set all by yourself the smartness can be twisted in true evil. That happened to katherine and she was so obssesed to get acknowledged as a Survivor no matter how many people needed to screw up.
I think TRULY SELFISH is the best adjective to describe Katherina at least in S1 - S5. After becoming the Queen of Hell I think she became truly evil at realizing she cant get redemption, Burning a whole town just to get revenge against the mystic folks gang that is not what Classic Katherine would do. She would not go that far when was undead/alive I mean she was not an angel but was not a genocide either
I have a 2nd generation cousin of mine, who is almost a twin-sister like of Nina Debrov.
Katherine in season 2 was such a vibe
I hate that they were reving up to get her a redemption arc and then just threw it away all together. “Have you ever thought that maybe I’m not the girl you think I am”? She says to Damon, and then nothing else is said or heard about it and she dies as a villain, not once but twice.
I love her she kept me watching longer than I expected she was good at avoiding death
Great breakdown. She's absolutely a twisted individual. Yes, she had a lot of terrible things happen to her, but Katherine went to places and did things that had nothing to do with the harm done to her, or even to save herself. There were many times when she would lash out with spite, and even after the brothers realised what she was, she would keep trying to play them off against each other for her own shits and giggles.
I just don’t think people would COMPLETELY understand unless you’ve gone what she went through. That’s all I’m saying🤷🏾♂️. plus it’s ridiculous that they gave the originals ESPECIALLY KLAUS a redemption arc and not Katherine considering they done wayyy more horrible disgusting things then she ever did. I don’t think that was fair
@@whistleking3407 The problem wasn't they didn't give her a redemption arc, it's that they constantly bait-and-switched it to double-down on her being a manipulative self-sreving bitch. I absolutely agree that she went through a lot - and that 500 years on the run is enough to twist anyone's personality - but the show constantly made pains to show that any good moments she had were either few and far between, or were manipulations.
@William Howe that’s fucked up. More reason to hate Julie 🤮
Nina must have had so much fun playing Katherine instead of boring Elena.
She said it plenty of times that she preferred Katherine better🤣👸🏻
Katherine pierce did stalk Stefan and I genuinely think she did care 4 Elijah but I ship Elijah and Katherine, so I guess I'm bias
As someone who relates to Katherine more then just about any other character in fiction. I can safely say the way you commented on Katherine in this video is rather bold.
I agree none of them are good not even Elena she makes bold & irrational decisions I think that’s why Catherine is more popular than her
Nina Dobrev did a very fine job playing both characters in the regard that the audience was able to tell they were two separate entities although the same actress was playing them. Nina was able to take on the persona of sweet but somewhat immature Elena or more worldly, cynical, emotionally twisted Katherine! Although in the books Elena and Katherine were blonde haired beauties Nina Dobrev was an excellent choice for her acting skills to play the part! Like everything else with the books just one more deviation from the original story by Julie Plec!
Kathrine always wore curls whereas Elena always wore straight hair.
@@mcnoneya There was still a different persona as well.
Hello brothers!!
It’s been a hoot watching you take on the devil
Especially considering that I’ve had him wrapped around my finger since the minute I stepped into hell😈
@@aronsmith2688 why do you think he wanted you?!!..cause I wanted you..duh!!
I never understood the hype abt Katherine. Her writing was so repetitive; she would leave and come back constantly. Sometimes she helped but more often then not she was just obsessing over Stefan and was jealous of Elena because who wouldn't be. She is bland as a character tbh
lol an Elena fan calling Katherine bland. Sit down.
@@skurinski RIGHT
Katherine is not evil she’s just miss understood let’s face the fact if the same thing that happen to her happen to u you would do worst than this
Her becoming Queen of Hell and wanting to destroy Mystic Falls and all its people with hellfire has got to b her biggest low. She would've killed a couple thousands of people, adults and kids alike, just to get revenge on the gang for defeating her. She did deserve what she got before her final return, but it seems that she thinks of herself as the alpha and the omega. With Hell gone, my fan-thoughts r of all the souls there who were good r free at peace (Vicki for instance), and all those were evil r being reincarnated. Starting life all over from scratch to do better. Her and Sybil the siren included.
Don’t blame Katherine blame the stupid writers for that. They could’ve made Katherine a grey character like Klaus but refused not to. They gave an original hybrid a redemption arc but not a woman who suffered tremendously because of him and his family.
@@whistleking3407 THANK YOU!!!! and don't get me started on Damon's psychotic ass! he killed Tyler, He killed Lexi, He killed Mason, Zach, Jeremy, and a pregnant woman!, tried to kill Bonnie more than once, he turned her mother into a vampire and he literally sexually assaulted Caroline and he gets to find peace!?
@@jal45100 And let's not talk about the biggest psychopath Klaus. How is it possible for him to find peace and Katherine not? He ruined her life and never apologized. What makes him even more disgusting is the fact that on her deathbed he wanted to see her and laugh with her…WTF🤯🤮
I swear this woman is a true survivor❤️🔥
And for the writers🖕🏻
They destroyed the best character
It's pretty easy to explain. All she even known was taking care of herself, because no one wanted to help her. When she was banished, when she was on the run. No one ever helped her when she was a human, they wanted to use her and kill her, she simply did what she did for her entire life - took care of herself.. Stopped to care about other people's survival, no one cared about hers. She lost everything, so she protected the only thing that left - her survival. On the run for such a long time she desired not just to survive, but also have a life. She also could have been born bit narcissistic, not gonna lie. She gave Stefan her whole heart and he stabbed her into it. Then she lost even the last thing, she cared for. She felt entitled to ruin and destroy everything simply because she found it unfair.
Could you please do a background video on Katherine?
*She’s Elena’s shadow opposite* Elena loves Damon, Kathrine loves Stefan…Kathrine was obsessed with immortality even when she was already one of the strongest vampires of the series, being an ancient vampire..while Elena was willing too instantly die for everyone and being extremely weak in comparison *Katherine’s a survivor* who had no one unlike Elena *who had Everyone!* “you wouldn’t last a day without everyone fawning over you” Kathrine season4 quote *I 100% agree with her*
Make a video on the Travellers pleasee
It’s due to her upbringing and her newborn baby girl were taken her from birth. So she’s wants spiraling down to where she’s currently is ( I think 😵💫😵💫😵💫 ).
even as a human she was trying to survive and did anything to survive. so naturally when she turned into a vampire that will to survive was amplified.
and then later on she just became vindictive, but who she was before and a few hundred years after becoming a vampire was just a girl who wanted to live/not die.
I think after all the centuries the human parts of her just got pushed down until virtually nothing was left.
So excited for this one!!
Off topic but Katherine never did anything wrong to klaus any sane 17 year old would be scared that a vampire werewolf hybrid would want to kill her for his own selfish reason and klaus himself is a selfish person so for him to want revenge on her for saving her OWN LIFE which is 100% understandable I never understood
Klaus never gave her the "You either go through with the ritual as planned or I murder your entire family" speech so yeah.
was she evil? absolutely
do I still love her? yes, she is 1 of my favorite characters but the writes did her dirty
do i prefer her over elena? yes, i prefer everyone over elena
Make a video about hope Mickelson
It was a very well written character. I don't like her but she was very well portrayed onscreen.
Because that's how she was written genius
STAN KATHERINE STAN KATHERINE
Love your videos
I didnt like her much but after rewatching tvd I've looked into her backstory and felt bad her her, i don't hate her but I don't love her. Also respect for her after she went to hell and back and still never turning her humanity off. Icon much
She’s the most iconic imo
Have you seen her reaction to f1 race cars
She's no more evil and conceited than Klaus or Damon.
It’s what happens when you never tell attractive woman no. Then give her deadly power.
i’m a katherine apologist and stan 😌😌❤️
STAN KATHERINE
I don’t think she’s really evil, but if she’s evil, then Stefan, Elijah and even Elena. They all done evil things
I wonder if Katherine is so smart why didn’t she just befriend Caroline and everyone even if it’s fake just so they can believe that and convince them to make klaus not kill her. Idk I would’ve done that
Klaus made her EVIL!!!
*Admits that he was never able to read Katherine*
*Proceeds to make an entire video about her "evil" personality*
Help🥲 she is not unreadable to everyone. And what evil means to people is extremely subjective. I may agree rhat this is why people BELIEVE she is evil but especially when ir came to her intentions, thoughts and feelings I entirely disagree and I would also NEVER call her evil because for me, being in a situation in which putting yourself first means you do something terrible does NOT make you a bad person. Doing something terrible because you want to or for smaller unnecessary reasons or just for fun or out of your mood THAT makes you a bad person in my opinion.
Then there were things that were just factually incorrect:
Katherine did NOT compel stefan to love her.
It was DEFINITELY necessary for her plan to feed Jeremy to Silas, she did not do it for no reason.
Katherine never planned on turning the Salvatores into vampires, so she most likely only fed them blood IN CASE they die (just like it also happened).
Also I will never understand why people have the opinion that stealing Elena's body was worse than murder. To me it simply sounds like y'all are biased cause it's elena.
Oh and btw Elena committed a massmurder WITH humanity switch on.
if she's pure evil then so is Klaus, Damon, Stefan, Elijah, etc.
People just love mean people
Lets say elena took that cure and silas took it out of her, she wont age since she is young. then kai came and put her in a coma. nadia and katherine couldve had a relationship and katherine redeemed herself, that would have been a better ending then the stupid ass season 8. She had a rough life, they all understood except damon cause she left him pinning and unloved.
i don't think Katherine is too Evil , i think Elena is worst than Katherine , because many time Elena did terrible and selfish thing but she still pretends to be good person , like everybody gave her excuses and freepass .
At least Katherine did pretends to be good .
I WISH I WAS KATHERINE!!!
Was she though??? All Damon and Stefan did was manipulate and murder people in numbers for no reason and were forgiven in a blink of an eye.
Katherine did what she did to survive. Every kill she made was to run or someone was in her way for her to run and survive. Katherine was done so dirty! The show really should’ve ended with her returning to Bulgaria free.
Katherine has killed people too because she got off on it and she enjoys pitting people against another and it was not just for her survival or for people that got in front of her yeah.
Elena wrote this video.
Katherine was evil because she is the freaking moonstone
Katherine was so much hotter than Elena .
I hated kathrine she's vile regardless of her backstory
She was a great villain but she was a callous coward in my opinion. Willing to throw anyone under the bus and I do mean anyone. Anyone she's come in contact with was simply a mean to an end
She wasn’t a coward she was strategic. If she didn’t think she would handle a certain vampire or monster then she’ll used other people to fight her battles while she watched from the sidelines. I would do the same thing 🤷🏾♂️
Coward?? What would you do if your enemy is immortal?? Tell me! Would you fight him😂? Noo never because you have no chance. So the best thing to do was to survive and run from the PSYCHO.
God i hate Klaus so much
@@aronsmith2688 u can tell he didn’t watch the show 🤣🤣
@@whistleking3407 I absolutely did and running from someone for 500 years, willing to throw any and everyone under the bus is cowardice. I've seen the show several times so f off
@@aronsmith2688 a coward like I said and I'm not changing my opinion
And how many years ago was this made and seen by so many? You are a little late on your production! I like the original books of Vampire Diaries but it was bought and mucked up by Julie Plec and or Kevin Williamson and rewritten to fit what they wanted so really you should say which story you are going to comment about!
Yes, I am rather disgruntled by the re-write. I have watched films and read the corresponding books and TBH the series Vampire Diaries is only similiar in the fact that it takes the fact of an orphaned pair of siblings and a town that had vampires from there it is totally a story on its on own and yet Julie Plec says it is based on the book! Which I expect it is butg almost in name only! Biggest load of "crock" I have ever heard. Not surprised the author quit after the second series of books as the producers wanted the story to deviate away, which it did, from what the author had envisioned and written! TOTAL BS! The book series Vampire Diaries and the T.V. series are almost two different animals! To add insult to injury Julie Plec had someone else continue to writen the story and Stefans story to keep the interest in the series on T.V.! As said TOTAL B/S BY JULIE PLEC! Yes, although I don't know her nor ever did before V.D. she makes me very angry when I think of what she did to a enjoyable book series! I also feel sad for the author, if only she had realised what she was doing when signing over her book rights! I have read they parted company rather less than amicably!
it's Not Nina dobreev It's Nina dobrev
Oh yeah Katherine was definitely evil and in my opinion I think she's worse than Klaus , yes Klaus has done a lot of messed up and borderline evil things but Klaus isn't without being a little bit honorable and Klaus has saved some lives too even if it's for his own benefit but he still saved lives regardless and Klaus sacrificing his life for his daughter is truly the ultimate redemption that he has done, but Katherine she has lied, manipulated and destroyed so many lives for her own selfish reasons and her trying to destroy Mystic Falls just for the hell of it is just downright evil and in the end Yes Klaus made her become evil in the first place but Katherine has had 500 years to better herself and she never did she died a horrible evil person in the end
Have to disagree she is worse than Klaus. Klaus has done so many terrible things over is 500 plus years lifespan more than Katherine that are just inexcusable and unanswered for. He died for his kid big whoop. So did Katherine and everyone still says she is worse like tf? A large portion of Katherine’s evil acts were done for survival whereas Klaus largely lived without fear of any actual threats besides Michael for the longest time and even had the strength to fight back against such a threat sheared Katherine is 500 years younger and actually has to use her smarts more than just strength.
@@Coven_of_Hags yeah very true, we can a agree one thing both Klaus and Katherine have done inexcusable evil things and have done some really really good things , I feel if you say Klaus is worse your not wrong and if you say Katherine is worse your also not wrong both are very vile messed people with some redeemable characteristics
@@roderick8167 yea seeing ur convo I still don’t know who’s more evil 🤣
We prefer Katherine to Elena because Elena was annoying.
Katherine was truly an evil person she never cared about anyone but herself nina was great as katherine
*She’s Elena’s shadow opposite* Elena loves Damon, Kathrine loves Stefan…Kathrine was obsessed with immortality even when she was already one of the strongest vampires of the series, being an ancient vampire..while Elena was willing too instantly die for everyone and being extremely weak in comparison *Katherine’s a survivor* who had no one unlike Elena *who had Everyone!* “you wouldn’t last a day without everyone fawning over you” Kathrine season4 quote *I 100% agree with her*