Way to go! I sure love that you care about flyers (especially those new to flying) and provide the community with detailed information videos. Gliders up!!!
I fly the Spyder 3, and the manual states that you can use breaks throughout the trim range. In the video you mention you can't use breaks past the red neutral line which is incorrect. But you also mention you don't read the manual... I'm referring to page 5 of the manual. Otherwise great video!
The Roadster 3 manual says: With the trimmers fully released it is possible to use the brakes for directional control. However when flying faster - by accelerating further with the speed system - directional control should be maintained with the TST. Using the brakes at speeds faster than the trimmer-released position can lead to a collapse. So technically yes you are correct as it says you can use the breaks but in our opinion this is not a sensible or safe thing to do as it can lead to a collapse, hence why the advice is to use the TST past the red stitch.
@@SkySchool correct, same wording in the spyder 3 manual. No word of caution though that using brakes while trimmed out would cause a collapse... I fully agree with your statement that it might not be the most sensible action though, given that using brakes messes up the reflex profile and you have those cool tip steering lines right there, begging to be used and are also much more efficient than the brakes (at any trim setting).
Any reason you pick roadster over spyder? Makes sense for in school training having beefy material but out of school I figured you’d want students to have easier inflation with light weight fabric
It’s a matter of cost vs lifespan of the wing as the Spyder 3 is a great wing with easy inflation but it doesn’t last as long as the Roadster 3, especially when used in harsh environments.
Can you explain why trimming out is beneficial for nil wind launches / high altitude launches? Is it just because it allows the wing to accelerate faster? Seems like it would reduce lift…. Maybe thats a topic for a future video. Great video btw.
By easing out the trimmers it allows the wing to inflate more easily in nil wind and at altitude. Although this makes the take off slightly faster it reduces the risk of the wing hanging back during the inflation and stalling.
Thanks for the video, as you are one in few youtubers that answer questions, I would like to ask: when I apply my speed bar in flight, the wing (Sky Flux M) seemed want to collapse forward, so I release back, is it normal?or should I need more adjustment? Thank you very much (I enjoy lots of your videos, especially the ugly ones, so I could learn from it) 😊
We had a brief look at the Manual and regarding the Speed Bar their comments are very similar to those in the Manuals for other beginner/intermediate wings: 'Use of the speed bar increases the maximum speed of the paraglider by up to 30% of the trim speed by lowering the angle of attack. Use of the speed system does reduce the angle of attack and therefore there is an increased risk of a frontal (or asymmetric) collapse. For this reason we do not advise use of the speed bar near to the ground or in turbulent air.' If in doubt always go back to the company you purchased the wing from and get their professional advice. It's also a good idea to read the Manual and you can download it here: sky-cz.com/media/cache/file/93/SKY_Manual_Flux_2017.pdf
Great video. I have the Roadster3 and have recently tied in 2D steering. I mostly fly trims mostly in-before the red line. I’m wondering, though, how to ensure that I don’t use the brakes if I’m trimmed out. I’ve noticed some wings come with a piece of tubing on the tip steer line, so you can hold outside the pulley. Just wondering if that keeps you sufficiently off the brakes.
The plastic tubing is a good alternative to the wing tip steering toggles that you find on the Roadster 3. Best to check with Ozone to see if these can be fitted to your wing.
Way to go! I sure love that you care about flyers (especially those new to flying) and provide the community with detailed information videos. Gliders up!!!
More to come in the future...
Peter's acting skills are awesome!
Good work Pete 👍😁. Great video
Appreciate it! Thanks.
No problem!
Good work 👍
Thank you for the tips I really appreciate it
I fly the Spyder 3, and the manual states that you can use breaks throughout the trim range. In the video you mention you can't use breaks past the red neutral line which is incorrect. But you also mention you don't read the manual... I'm referring to page 5 of the manual. Otherwise great video!
The Roadster 3 manual says:
With the trimmers fully released it is possible to use the brakes for directional control. However when flying faster - by accelerating further with the speed system - directional control should be maintained with the TST. Using the brakes at speeds faster than the trimmer-released position can lead to a collapse.
So technically yes you are correct as it says you can use the breaks but in our opinion this is not a sensible or safe thing to do as it can lead to a collapse, hence why the advice is to use the TST past the red stitch.
@@SkySchool correct, same wording in the spyder 3 manual. No word of caution though that using brakes while trimmed out would cause a collapse... I fully agree with your statement that it might not be the most sensible action though, given that using brakes messes up the reflex profile and you have those cool tip steering lines right there, begging to be used and are also much more efficient than the brakes (at any trim setting).
Any reason you pick roadster over spyder? Makes sense for in school training having beefy material but out of school I figured you’d want students to have easier inflation with light weight fabric
It’s a matter of cost vs lifespan of the wing as the Spyder 3 is a great wing with easy inflation but it doesn’t last as long as the Roadster 3, especially when used in harsh environments.
Can you explain why trimming out is beneficial for nil wind launches / high altitude launches? Is it just because it allows the wing to accelerate faster? Seems like it would reduce lift….
Maybe thats a topic for a future video. Great video btw.
By easing out the trimmers it allows the wing to inflate more easily in nil wind and at altitude. Although this makes the take off slightly faster it reduces the risk of the wing hanging back during the inflation and stalling.
Thanks for the video, as you are one in few youtubers that answer questions, I would like to ask: when I apply my speed bar in flight, the wing (Sky Flux M) seemed want to collapse forward, so I release back, is it normal?or should I need more adjustment? Thank you very much (I enjoy lots of your videos, especially the ugly ones, so I could learn from it) 😊
We had a brief look at the Manual and regarding the Speed Bar their comments are very similar to those in the Manuals for other beginner/intermediate wings:
'Use of the speed bar increases the maximum speed of the paraglider by up to 30% of the trim speed by lowering the angle of attack. Use of the speed system does reduce the angle of attack and therefore there is an increased risk of a frontal (or asymmetric) collapse. For this reason we do not advise use of the speed bar near to the ground or in turbulent air.'
If in doubt always go back to the company you purchased the wing from and get their professional advice. It's also a good idea to read the Manual and you can download it here: sky-cz.com/media/cache/file/93/SKY_Manual_Flux_2017.pdf
Thank you 👍✅
To recap, with a ozone spyder 3 and JUST paragliding, i should have trimmers all the way tight?
@@tahowaiiankilgore9268 yes correct
Great video. I have the Roadster3 and have recently tied in 2D steering. I mostly fly trims mostly in-before the red line. I’m wondering, though, how to ensure that I don’t use the brakes if I’m trimmed out. I’ve noticed some wings come with a piece of tubing on the tip steer line, so you can hold outside the pulley. Just wondering if that keeps you sufficiently off the brakes.
The plastic tubing is a good alternative to the wing tip steering toggles that you find on the Roadster 3. Best to check with Ozone to see if these can be fitted to your wing.