Dude I gotta say I love your videos from the bg3 vids all the other vocation vids are like “watch this before you choose at your peril” like the vocation system can’t be changed at literally anytime. Your vids are clear and don’t have the bs gamer vid “ten things you need to know” crap. Really appreciated
One note on selecting your main pawn, if things shake out like DD1 there will be a lot of options for mages in the rift because everyone wants support but not many want to take on the role. If there is another role you know you want but don't want to play (e.g. I want ranged dps in my party but don't want to play archer) it might be worth making that your main pawn and grabbing a mage from the rift. one of the nice things about DD though is these choices aren't locked in at character creation so you can always change your mind later.
my feeling is the opposite, most people who made mages literally had no idea what they were doing and had garbage builds with terrible skills. Like weapon buffs for two different elements, or multiple spells of the same element. If you wanted a good support mage you basically had to do it yourself.
Litterity what I did in the OG is made my main a strider, my main pawn a fighter, and both of the other pawns as mages, but covering different aspects.
I was going to buy this game later today on steam however, I had forgotten about your link thanks for reminding me. I am torn between Fighter and Mage but Rogue looks cool too. So I have enjoyed your video and now own the game. Thanks
I love that you are covering this. All your content is awesome. I know I want to eventually get to Mystic Spearhand, but Fighter and Thief both interest me pretty equally, as well. Thief going into Mystic Spearhand looks surprisingly synergetic strictly in terms of the dexterous/dynamic fighting style. Dodging, teleporting, etc. I am so excited for this game.
I'll probably start archer but I will be ranking up all vocations to keep it fresh and for those sweet sweet passives, likely ending up on warfarer, MA, or mystic spearhand when its all said and done. And stats are dynamic now so there is no downside to changing it up while you level. And my pawn has and forever will be a giant black man named steve, a fighter or warrior. A good tank or knockdown minion is super helpful, and if its anything like the first, more skills is not always better on pawns if you want them to focus on certain things
Trickster looks interesting, but classes like that tend to be underwhelming in really combat-focused games, so I might end up going for Sorcerer instead.
@@italianspartacus Trickster is totally Hunting Horn from Monster Hunter. As you were describing these classes, it felt VERY heavily inspired by Monster Hunter (ie: warrior = greatsword, trickster = hunting horn, fighter = sword & shield, thief = dual blades, etc)
@@ethanpeeples6187 As opposed to playing as the wrong class for fifty levels only to realize you inadvertently nerfed the class you watched to switch to? Nah. New way is better.
@@Draliseth why are you putting levels in a class you won't use? Seems like you intentionally nerfed yourself. It doesn't make sense for a player to be a mage for 45 levels and be able to swing a sword as well as someone who put all those levels into fighter.
@@ethanpeeples6187 You seem pretty uninformed for having such strong opinions. In DDDA, BY FAR the best way to build Mystic Archers (probably even Mystic Knights) was to put literally 100 levels into Sorcerer. You'd start as a Strider, play Mystic Archer for like 20 levels in the relatively midgame, then and up swapping back & finally grinding 100 levels as a Sorcerer. Finally, at level 200, you could swap back to Mystic Archer and play that. If you cared about min-maxing, that is, which, ironically, is the opposite of "nerfing yourself" The new system prevents that, which is amazing.
@bajcli ofc a magic class would do good woth other magic classes? I never said that. I said it makes no sense for you to be a mage for 50 levels and then can swap to fighter and preform on the same level as someone who put all 50 into fighter. You might have dyslexia or something my guy.
Well, here we are at the release of another huge game I'm excited for and I still haven't finished Act 1 of BG3. I have a feeling I won't be finishing Dragon's Dogma 2 either because I'll get trapped restarting over and over cuz I can't decide what class I want to be or how I want my character to look. Or some other done BS that will make me restart a hundred times til I get burned out from the game.
Don't worry too much about restarting for DD2, I had the same issue in BG3 where I spent almost 100 hours trying out which character and class would feel "right" (finally found it in a dark urge dragonborn sorcerer, how unique lol) but for dragon's dogma you can swap classes dynamically. Go to someone that lets you change classes, equip a different type of weapon, a few skills and bam you're ready to go back to exploring ; stats should adjust by themselves depending on which class you're on, no need to re-allocate points. So you don't need to pick a definitive class or anything, just swap to one that you want to play when you wish to try something else. You can think of your character as a jack of all trades if the RP aspect concerns you ; I would say vocations mostly define your character during combat. And for appearance, we will have barbershops too (in the first game, we could change hair, hair color, makeup and voice but we probably will have more options in 2) So yeah I get you, but DD games are mostly about fun fantasy fights so you should have an easier time with it !
@@brreakfastYT These games will be there for a very long time anyway, so you can take it easy ! Keep in mind that it's usually possible to take advantage of in-game systems to solve problems you could have. The rest is up to how you choose to approach your experience with the game, and most importantly, why you want to keep playing it ! If you see another path to take or thing to do in BG3, just reload and try it (then keep going if it feels right) or remember it for a future run with a new character ! The game still has a lot of patches and even a GOTY version on the way, so it will definitely be worth it to restart again someday. Just don't be too harsh on yourself and do your best to appease your demons ! 😈
Mage-->Sorc-->Trickster I think Trickster sounds really interesting and unique. So i want too build up too that. Before geting there i want too try mage and maybe sorc depending on when i unlock the trickster vocation.
I feel like warfarer may solve my big problem with Sorcerer from DD1 in that when they were working they were great, but there were some encounters that I just couldn't get a cast off which really put me off the class. I'll have to wait to see how it's implemented in practice but I really like the idea of being able to play, for example, a mystic spearhand that can pull out an archstaff and go ham when the opportunity presents it self. That said I wouldn't be surprised if the warfarer was missing more than just stats compared to the classes you take your weapons from, that swap mechanic has to live somewhere in the control scheme, and it may be R1/RB where some of the class specific abilities seem to be mapped.
From what I have seen on other channels, the weapon swap on warfarers will occupy one of the weapon skill slots, specifically A(Xbox)/X(Playstation). Some have also been saying that it will only have access to three weapon skills total, spread across it's equipped weapons. Hopefully this is a mistranslation/misunderstanding.
Wonder how long it take to unlock Mystic Spearhand and what vocation should you should for a roleplay / easier transition into it. You said fighter / mage, but the quick gameplay give me thief vibe more than figther
Just a note, I didn’t hear anything about Capcom getting rid of augments so I’m pretty sure they’ll still be in the game. And if that’s so, certain augments can only be acquired through certain vocations, like in the first game. So it probably be best to play most of the vocations to get certain augments you want for your characters.
Choose any vocation you are interested for. And then, you can change anytime if you get bored. The stats you get for leveling doesn't matter, it will be re allocated when you change for another vocation. So you will be able to pass from Fighter, to Mage, to Warrior, to Magic Archer, and so on 😅
I'm going to be honest im a bit sad that there is no advance theif and ranger vocation......or im hoping that they just don't want to tell us as a surprise.....hoping hoping
I used assassin in dd1 with a sword and bow and leaned heavy on the parry skill, clairvoyance. So i guess I'll start as fighter and see if I can make it work without a shield. After all shields engender passivity.
If this is dd1 limiting yourself to one vocation is idiocy but not lunacy you need the passives from all vocations to make op character and pawn. It's also a balance between vocation lvling and experience lvling so you lvl on the vocation that gets you the stat boost you want and the ability to get the passive from other vocations in dd1 however it wasn't to punishing not min maxing
I'm not sure! I'm doing some deep dive videos next week and I should have an answer for you. From what I understand, it's all encapsulated in that vocation
I played a ton of DD1 and can't wait for DD2. Sadly RIP my Mystic Knight. But I think I'm going to run Warfarer fighter with Sorcerer. Tons of armor and shield to deflect and then drops nukes when there is an opening. Depending how bad the stats effect might be I think Warfarer might be one of the strongest classes.
I plan to start thief, progress through those skills along with archer and mystic spearmen and lastly just become a wayfarer. I feel wayfarer with those combos i can have tones of range opportunity along with some close up grab techniques. Especially since wayfarer damage depends on how well you use your vocation skills together it seems.
Trickster can still summon "ghosts" that fight but it clearly needs pawns to be truly effective. It is kind of irritating it is an arisen only class, because it would be an awesome class for a support pawn. Playing a pure support role in a single player game doesn't seem like it will be very exciting for most players.
The only thing I'm a bit concerned about is the no advanced/hybrids related to the core thief or archer playstyles. Like there's no advanced archer with a longbow, or an advanced dagger assasin. Also seems like the classic mystic warrior is gone, which sucks a bit since i liked the idea of a melee tank with support magic.
Sorcerer for me and I will have a pawn that will be basically be a clone of my main character which also can be a sorcerer. The idea is that I take my main character through the game twice, first as the main then as the pawn.
I have no clue as to what I will choose at the start of the game, I just know that my eventual decision for a vocation is between magick archer and mystic spearhand.
Does anybody know if the Thief/Rogue class still allows you to do the optimal dps skills and fast dashing? I believe it was the most broken vocation in the entire game with a very specific build for grapplehooking and infinitely slicing and dicing.
I think im going to main Magic Archer, with a thief, mage, and sorcerror pawn. I'm hoping the mage and sorcerror will help each other cast spells, and that between me and the mage, we'll be able to keep the parties health topped off, and that the thief will be able to get a lot of attacks in thanks to CC from the 3 of us. If it doesn't work the way I envision, I think I'll switch the thief for a fighter. Let him taunt and tank while the rest of us sit in the back dropping bombs.
It would be good of you could fight with two swords as a fighter. I like the warrior's gigantic weaponwielder type approatch, but i'm courious if you could play without a shield, like a "berzerker".. probably not..
In the first game I played it like 6 times and 3 of those times I ended up playing Fighter all the way to the end. Advanced vocations is a bit of a misnomer that’s the only class (now) that uses sword and shield. Besides the ultimate hybrid class warfarer which lets you switch on the fly between vocations but in return has some drawbacks
You can basically never change your vocation. Advanced Classes are more offensive in terms of stats, i don't really know about hybrid vocations. If you wanna play fighter for the entire game you can do that.
The Warfarer vocation exists which allows you to mix and match whatever weapons and skills at lower baseline stats. So you could potentially try out other stats before eventually settling on a combination of sword/shield + other - the vocation job trailer shows a sorcerer casting an ice spell before swapping to a warrior greatsword for example
Yeah i was thinking the same about playing Trickster. Don't want to trick a full pack of mobs off a cliff if you lose all the loot you would normally get from them.
I'm going Mage than into sorcerer and my pawn will be fighter so my pawn can take Agroo so I don't get interrupted while I cast than my third pawn will be a mage and my last probably thief or Archer
Starting with thief, switching to mystic spearhand as soon as i can. Pawn will be mage. Second playtrough, solo warrior looking like Senator Armstrong (NANOMACHINES, SON!)
Going Archer then Magic Archer. Not sure what main porn to go with. Some say fighter, others say Mage. If i pick fighter, Im.lacking any healing, buffs or debuffs. If I pick a Mage then Im lacking any frontline DPS and will have 2 long range characters. Which would you recommend? Im.not sure if this correct. Is it just your Arisen and main pawn that level up with you and not the pawns?
There will be 700 billion mage pawns other people make for you to hire. Fighters are usually a little less common but you will find every class. Just make whatever you like, don't forget your pawn will also unlock augments and passives from ranking up vocations like you do so changing it up has benefits. It was super easy to swap out vocations and party memebers in 1.
Also assuming it's like 1. You can search for pawns to hire based on level, other pawns will not level with you as you go, but they will level as their owner syncs data with the server. So if you really like 1 pawn, if the owner plays and levels them up, you may be able to resummon them at the higher level, though their skills may have changed as well. But you should expect to be swapping pawns in and out regularly as you go
Love your stuff man. Been following since Bannerlord released. Love me some DD. Have been waiting 10+ years for this one. I’m gonna try archer bc I usually play the up-close and personal melee characters, and I want to try something different. Do you really think these are the only hybrid and advanced vocations we are getting though? I have a hard time believing we won’t get advanced archer and thief vocations. Same for the fighter/thief and archer/thief hybrids. Seems odd.
If it's like dd1 you can change into any vocation at a trainer. So don't worry about what you start as, if you're not feeling a vocation just change it. No restart necessary.
@@italianspartacus I'm holding out on hope that the Warfarer will allow you to approximate MK. If not, sticks are cool too. 🤣 Glad to see you making quality videos for another game I'm looking forward to. Your no BS approach is such a relief after the years of Destiny 1 "news" I put up with.
Don't worry, dragons dogma isn't hard, and I really doubt them when they say the game is going to be harder. As long as you have stamina and heals, you'll be fine.
The Mage is the only vocation that has an advanced version (the sorcerer) the other vocations have no advanced version (unless you want to consider the warrior the advanced version of the fighter)
Advanced Vocation just means that you have to advance to it, you can't choose it from the beginning. It doesn't mean that it's a more advanced version of a basic vocation. Sorcerer uses a different weapon than Mages and loses access to Mage abilities, they serve different roles in a party, just like Fighters and Warriors serve different roles and use different weapons. Just like Rangers and Striders used different weapons and had different abilities.
Fighter all the way for me. While warrior made me fall in love with dd1, fighter was more my playstyle. I like being the main tank. Drawing aggro to protect my party, and using instant blocking along with moves with invincibility frames to keep myself safe while dishing out damage along with staggering large targets. All I'm hoping is that shield drum actually draws aggro more consistently this time around.
Are they doing that goofy bs from the first game where you have to play a class you dont want to for 100 levels to get decent stats forbthe class you want?
Do we think this game is worth the price though? It probably is, and honestly probably one of the only ones at that price that should be worth that price, but maannnn its steep...
bro it’s 2024. 70 has been the norm for like 5 years now and you knew this game’s (and any other in the last few years) release date months prior. this is a game where you know it’s an instant buy, so you should have put away like idk at least 10 dollars a week for 7 weeks 😂😂😂
@@getgoodscy but it’s less a question about it being expensive it’s more a question of value. Lots of games have released at that price yes, but not a lot are worth that price… alright fine I’ll admit, I have serious PTSD from buying D4 honestly. Played it for the first few weeks and have regretted it ever since.
I hate that there’s no secondary weapons in this game . For the people who loved the Strider, assasin, Ranger or even magic archer there’s not really anything in this game for you
I've been worried about that too. I loved having a sword and bow in dd1. That said I'm still excited for the game. Hoping I can just not use a shield on fighter and have some sense of my dd1 character.
Oh why dosent that spearhand be just a spear, halberd… ..polearm user. Spear has been the best weapon for fighting across history. We NEED polearms in games.
Thief may be the best at dealing damage by climbing monsters but every vocations can climb monsters. I just wanna to clarify this Edit: woops should have watch the video longer before commenting
Dude I gotta say I love your videos from the bg3 vids all the other vocation vids are like “watch this before you choose at your peril” like the vocation system can’t be changed at literally anytime. Your vids are clear and don’t have the bs gamer vid “ten things you need to know” crap. Really appreciated
Best rpg youtuber out there. I found this channel through BG3 aswell
“10 things before you buy” they’re all the same jhst buzzwords to get people to click and then they tell u the most simple shit 😂
Thank you so much dude that's such high praise. I consume videos too so I try to make one's that wouldn't piss ME off if I clicked them hahahah
Vid: "The hardest part of starting up any RPG is picking your clas-"
Me: " Thief ... done"
hahahaha
Sorcerer/mage/wizard always!
Rogue/Warlock/Necro...bad guy-ish for me
One note on selecting your main pawn, if things shake out like DD1 there will be a lot of options for mages in the rift because everyone wants support but not many want to take on the role. If there is another role you know you want but don't want to play (e.g. I want ranged dps in my party but don't want to play archer) it might be worth making that your main pawn and grabbing a mage from the rift. one of the nice things about DD though is these choices aren't locked in at character creation so you can always change your mind later.
my feeling is the opposite, most people who made mages literally had no idea what they were doing and had garbage builds with terrible skills. Like weapon buffs for two different elements, or multiple spells of the same element. If you wanted a good support mage you basically had to do it yourself.
Litterity what I did in the OG is made my main a strider, my main pawn a fighter, and both of the other pawns as mages, but covering different aspects.
Really appreciate your approach to content creation. Nice to know people with your honest mindset and approach exist!
Of course! I watch videos too and I hate wasting my time. I want to just dive in
I just the think sheer amount of ability’s and mobility of the spear hand, plus really good crowd control will be the most powerful.
It was actually said that stats will be reallocated when you change vocation. It will be like you were leveling the class from the beginning.
Awesome thank you for that dude!! I know a lot of people have been asking and info is all over the place right now
Good this is what really hurt my enjoyment of DD1
I was going to buy this game later today on steam however, I had forgotten about your link thanks for reminding me. I am torn between Fighter and Mage but Rogue looks cool too. So I have enjoyed your video and now own the game. Thanks
I love that you are covering this. All your content is awesome.
I know I want to eventually get to Mystic Spearhand, but Fighter and Thief both interest me pretty equally, as well.
Thief going into Mystic Spearhand looks surprisingly synergetic strictly in terms of the dexterous/dynamic fighting style. Dodging, teleporting, etc.
I am so excited for this game.
Thank you so much for watching brother :)
I'll probably start archer but I will be ranking up all vocations to keep it fresh and for those sweet sweet passives, likely ending up on warfarer, MA, or mystic spearhand when its all said and done. And stats are dynamic now so there is no downside to changing it up while you level.
And my pawn has and forever will be a giant black man named steve, a fighter or warrior. A good tank or knockdown minion is super helpful, and if its anything like the first, more skills is not always better on pawns if you want them to focus on certain things
Magick archer is basically a quincy from bleach so i will play that
Theres a quincy moniker too
In that mind, I'm tempted to play Warferer with mainly berserker with dual blade agility to fly around and use amazing abilities like ichigo
I heard Bleach so I'm instantly buying the game
Trickster looks interesting, but classes like that tend to be underwhelming in really combat-focused games, so I might end up going for Sorcerer instead.
Yeah in very interested to see how they work. It's a hybrid too so your pawn can't be it. I think if my pawn could go trickster, I'd be more excited
@@italianspartacus Trickster is totally Hunting Horn from Monster Hunter. As you were describing these classes, it felt VERY heavily inspired by Monster Hunter (ie: warrior = greatsword, trickster = hunting horn, fighter = sword & shield, thief = dual blades, etc)
Stats are no longer leveled up based just on class, stats get redistributed when you switch classes to better match the class you switch to.
That kind of ruins the character building aspect and I hate it.
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As opposed to playing as the wrong class for fifty levels only to realize you inadvertently nerfed the class you watched to switch to?
Nah. New way is better.
@@Draliseth why are you putting levels in a class you won't use? Seems like you intentionally nerfed yourself. It doesn't make sense for a player to be a mage for 45 levels and be able to swing a sword as well as someone who put all those levels into fighter.
@@ethanpeeples6187 You seem pretty uninformed for having such strong opinions. In DDDA, BY FAR the best way to build Mystic Archers (probably even Mystic Knights) was to put literally 100 levels into Sorcerer. You'd start as a Strider, play Mystic Archer for like 20 levels in the relatively midgame, then and up swapping back & finally grinding 100 levels as a Sorcerer. Finally, at level 200, you could swap back to Mystic Archer and play that.
If you cared about min-maxing, that is, which, ironically, is the opposite of "nerfing yourself"
The new system prevents that, which is amazing.
@bajcli ofc a magic class would do good woth other magic classes? I never said that. I said it makes no sense for you to be a mage for 50 levels and then can swap to fighter and preform on the same level as someone who put all 50 into fighter. You might have dyslexia or something my guy.
Good video as usual ❤
Thank you!!
Your vocation doesnt affect your stat gain. This was confirmed by the game director. Your stats will reallocate based on which you play.
Well, here we are at the release of another huge game I'm excited for and I still haven't finished Act 1 of BG3. I have a feeling I won't be finishing Dragon's Dogma 2 either because I'll get trapped restarting over and over cuz I can't decide what class I want to be or how I want my character to look. Or some other done BS that will make me restart a hundred times til I get burned out from the game.
Hahahahaha
Don't worry too much about restarting for DD2, I had the same issue in BG3 where I spent almost 100 hours trying out which character and class would feel "right" (finally found it in a dark urge dragonborn sorcerer, how unique lol) but for dragon's dogma you can swap classes dynamically. Go to someone that lets you change classes, equip a different type of weapon, a few skills and bam you're ready to go back to exploring ; stats should adjust by themselves depending on which class you're on, no need to re-allocate points. So you don't need to pick a definitive class or anything, just swap to one that you want to play when you wish to try something else. You can think of your character as a jack of all trades if the RP aspect concerns you ; I would say vocations mostly define your character during combat. And for appearance, we will have barbershops too (in the first game, we could change hair, hair color, makeup and voice but we probably will have more options in 2) So yeah I get you, but DD games are mostly about fun fantasy fights so you should have an easier time with it !
@@amalou8739 I hear you, but... I still don't trust myself. I'm playing BG3 til Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out and I ain't restarting!😤
@@brreakfastYT These games will be there for a very long time anyway, so you can take it easy ! Keep in mind that it's usually possible to take advantage of in-game systems to solve problems you could have. The rest is up to how you choose to approach your experience with the game, and most importantly, why you want to keep playing it !
If you see another path to take or thing to do in BG3, just reload and try it (then keep going if it feels right) or remember it for a future run with a new character ! The game still has a lot of patches and even a GOTY version on the way, so it will definitely be worth it to restart again someday. Just don't be too harsh on yourself and do your best to appease your demons ! 😈
Mage-->Sorc-->Trickster
I think Trickster sounds really interesting and unique. So i want too build up too that. Before geting there i want too try mage and maybe sorc depending on when i unlock the trickster vocation.
I feel like warfarer may solve my big problem with Sorcerer from DD1 in that when they were working they were great, but there were some encounters that I just couldn't get a cast off which really put me off the class. I'll have to wait to see how it's implemented in practice but I really like the idea of being able to play, for example, a mystic spearhand that can pull out an archstaff and go ham when the opportunity presents it self. That said I wouldn't be surprised if the warfarer was missing more than just stats compared to the classes you take your weapons from, that swap mechanic has to live somewhere in the control scheme, and it may be R1/RB where some of the class specific abilities seem to be mapped.
From what I have seen on other channels, the weapon swap on warfarers will occupy one of the weapon skill slots, specifically A(Xbox)/X(Playstation).
Some have also been saying that it will only have access to three weapon skills total, spread across it's equipped weapons. Hopefully this is a mistranslation/misunderstanding.
That's the fun, finding the best times to cast big spells. Dodging and levitating around the battlefield
Warfarer looks like it will have SUCH a fun combat loop
Glad to hear I'm not the only one struggling with the first vocation 😂. It's so hard to decide.
What vocation should you begin as to become a spearhand?
Doesn't matter, whatever youd like :)
the beginning of this video is exactly why i went out of my way to watch this video when i saw it was made by you
aw man thank you so much bro! i appreciate that :D
Thanks for the video! Longest 8 days ever.
Don’t freeze yourself!
We'll get there together brother!
greatsword master here
It's the only choice
Loooook ING girthy
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Wonder how long it take to unlock Mystic Spearhand and what vocation should you should for a roleplay / easier transition into it. You said fighter / mage, but the quick gameplay give me thief vibe more than figther
Just a note, I didn’t hear anything about Capcom getting rid of augments so I’m pretty sure they’ll still be in the game. And if that’s so, certain augments can only be acquired through certain vocations, like in the first game. So it probably be best to play most of the vocations to get certain augments you want for your characters.
Im kinda nervous about picking the right one because there is only one save spot and never played a Dragons Dogma game.
Choose any vocation you are interested for. And then, you can change anytime if you get bored. The stats you get for leveling doesn't matter, it will be re allocated when you change for another vocation.
So you will be able to pass from Fighter, to Mage, to Warrior, to Magic Archer, and so on 😅
thanks!@@Yawar25
I'm going to be honest im a bit sad that there is no advance theif and ranger vocation......or im hoping that they just don't want to tell us as a surprise.....hoping hoping
I used assassin in dd1 with a sword and bow and leaned heavy on the parry skill, clairvoyance. So i guess I'll start as fighter and see if I can make it work without a shield. After all shields engender passivity.
Shield bashing and shield charging begs to differ
@@LeoGuitarize it's a quote from bloodborn
I really can‘t decide on what i want to play. Usually i would go with Magic classes, but all classes look sooooooo good
Is it confirmed that there are no other vocations, cause it feels off that archer and thief have no advanced and only hybrids.
Really hope they add more. Love the mystic spearhand vocation but hoping they add mystic knight as well :/
It is the game director. itsuno himself said thats it, but they're moght be dlc for more
If this is dd1 limiting yourself to one vocation is idiocy but not lunacy you need the passives from all vocations to make op character and pawn. It's also a balance between vocation lvling and experience lvling so you lvl on the vocation that gets you the stat boost you want and the ability to get the passive from other vocations in dd1 however it wasn't to punishing not min maxing
After watching this I think I’ll play mystic spear of archer. Thx for the concise content as always!
My pleasure brother!!
are we still going to be able to take our passives and use them on any vocation ?
I'm not sure! I'm doing some deep dive videos next week and I should have an answer for you. From what I understand, it's all encapsulated in that vocation
If it plays anything like the first game, I’ll probably start out warrior for the storage weight perks and then go thief
So if i pick the warfarer, i can have a big boi sword and blink around for the big hits?? Sounds good to me
You can combine the weapons of others at the cost of combo slots I think it was
i think im going to be archer that goes into magic archer and have my pawn be a theif
The Magick archer looks SO GOOD
I played a ton of DD1 and can't wait for DD2. Sadly RIP my Mystic Knight. But I think I'm going to run Warfarer fighter with Sorcerer. Tons of armor and shield to deflect and then drops nukes when there is an opening. Depending how bad the stats effect might be I think Warfarer might be one of the strongest classes.
Imma start thief so i can teach my pawn to climb monsters like a crazy. Curious to see how well pawn learning works compared to the 1st game
Yeah the pawn stuff has been markedly improved from everything I've seen so I'm excited to witness it first hand
Great info. I'm still between Mage and Archer so maybe the magic archer will be the best aim
I plan to start thief, progress through those skills along with archer and mystic spearmen and lastly just become a wayfarer. I feel wayfarer with those combos i can have tones of range opportunity along with some close up grab techniques. Especially since wayfarer damage depends on how well you use your vocation skills together it seems.
The fast playstyle of thief is so smooth looking
@italianspartacus yes major improvements
mystic spear hand is exactly what i’d wanna be im excited as hell
The jedi of dragons dogma!!!
A side note, every vocation can be op and solo the game, but trickster might be a little bit tricky though since it doesn't seem to do direct damage
Trickster can still summon "ghosts" that fight but it clearly needs pawns to be truly effective. It is kind of irritating it is an arisen only class, because it would be an awesome class for a support pawn. Playing a pure support role in a single player game doesn't seem like it will be very exciting for most players.
As long as I can do the tenfold explosive arrow build I don’t need any other build
Yeah, the "I'm fking rich to spam 10 bombs per strike" build. I love it 😊
I'm doing my first run on mags into sorcerer and then another run as an archer and then another run as fighter into warrior.
Take a pawn as a caster and you guys can chain spells together /
So ready for this game. The wait is killing me.
The only thing I'm a bit concerned about is the no advanced/hybrids related to the core thief or archer playstyles. Like there's no advanced archer with a longbow, or an advanced dagger assasin. Also seems like the classic mystic warrior is gone, which sucks a bit since i liked the idea of a melee tank with support magic.
I made a Fighter and my Main Pawn is an Archer. I will probably get a Mage and Thief support.
“Advanced vocation” - does it make it better than the pre-cursor vocation or just different?
Just a more focused job :) so warrior just focuses on dps from fighter but it's still plenty Tanky!
I'm going either thief or archer for myself and my main pawn is just a toss up depending. Maybe mage Or fighter/warrior.
Sorcerer for me and I will have a pawn that will be basically be a clone of my main character which also can be a sorcerer. The idea is that I take my main character through the game twice, first as the main then as the pawn.
You'll also cast spells faster!!
I have no clue as to what I will choose at the start of the game, I just know that my eventual decision for a vocation is between magick archer and mystic spearhand.
I'm in the same boat brother!
Mage Arisen to Magic Archer maybe Mystic Spearhand
Pawn Fighter to Warrior
If there isn’t a pawn exclusive summoner vocation then I don’t see the mystic spear hands telekinesis being viable in a lot of cases
I haven't heard of one but I'd love that
Does anybody know if the Thief/Rogue class still allows you to do the optimal dps skills and fast dashing?
I believe it was the most broken vocation in the entire game with a very specific build for grapplehooking and infinitely slicing and dicing.
I’m undecided between an archer or a theif, any tips or help would be greatly appreciated, Thank you for such a wonderful and informative video
I think im going to main Magic Archer, with a thief, mage, and sorcerror pawn. I'm hoping the mage and sorcerror will help each other cast spells, and that between me and the mage, we'll be able to keep the parties health topped off, and that the thief will be able to get a lot of attacks in thanks to CC from the 3 of us.
If it doesn't work the way I envision, I think I'll switch the thief for a fighter. Let him taunt and tank while the rest of us sit in the back dropping bombs.
The damage Magick archer can do looks so fucking sick
It would be good of you could fight with two swords as a fighter.
I like the warrior's gigantic weaponwielder type approatch, but i'm courious if you could play without a shield, like a "berzerker".. probably not..
So... what can I do, if I want to use Shield + Sword the whole game? Is it possible to just stay Fighter or does it make sense?
In the first game I played it like 6 times and 3 of those times I ended up playing Fighter all the way to the end.
Advanced vocations is a bit of a misnomer that’s the only class (now) that uses sword and shield.
Besides the ultimate hybrid class warfarer which lets you switch on the fly between vocations but in return has some drawbacks
You can basically never change your vocation. Advanced Classes are more offensive in terms of stats, i don't really know about hybrid vocations. If you wanna play fighter for the entire game you can do that.
Sweet, thanks both of you! Never played Dragons Dogma 1.
The Warfarer vocation exists which allows you to mix and match whatever weapons and skills at lower baseline stats. So you could potentially try out other stats before eventually settling on a combination of sword/shield + other - the vocation job trailer shows a sorcerer casting an ice spell before swapping to a warrior greatsword for example
It is possible and will work fine so long as you build your party to cover your weaknesses
Wonder how looting will go, because i'll not toss that many mobs off cliffs if they take my loot with them.
Yeah i was thinking the same about playing Trickster. Don't want to trick a full pack of mobs off a cliff if you lose all the loot you would normally get from them.
Fighter, the path I choose will not be easy
I never played the first one. When I change to the spearhand, Does my stats go back to lv per say. Or do I have reset my skill points?
I'm going Mage than into sorcerer and my pawn will be fighter so my pawn can take Agroo so I don't get interrupted while I cast than my third pawn will be a mage and my last probably thief or Archer
Definitely going to start off with Mage. Looks really fun! :D
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Welcome to the family!!
Starting with thief, switching to mystic spearhand as soon as i can.
Pawn will be mage.
Second playtrough, solo warrior looking like Senator Armstrong (NANOMACHINES, SON!)
Mystic spearhand jsut looks so damn fun
Probably gonna start as archer then go magick archer but mystic spearhand and trickster does look cool
I loved the way shooting felt in ddda and archer seems to have combined a lot of skills of strider and ranger for bow stuff
I'm in the same exact boat!
Going Archer then Magic Archer. Not sure what main porn to go with. Some say fighter, others say Mage.
If i pick fighter, Im.lacking any healing, buffs or debuffs.
If I pick a Mage then Im lacking any frontline DPS and will have 2 long range characters.
Which would you recommend?
Im.not sure if this correct. Is it just your Arisen and main pawn that level up with you and not the pawns?
ayo edit your comment lol you misspelled pawn
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@@Asura10x10Thanks,😂
There will be 700 billion mage pawns other people make for you to hire. Fighters are usually a little less common but you will find every class. Just make whatever you like, don't forget your pawn will also unlock augments and passives from ranking up vocations like you do so changing it up has benefits. It was super easy to swap out vocations and party memebers in 1.
Also assuming it's like 1. You can search for pawns to hire based on level, other pawns will not level with you as you go, but they will level as their owner syncs data with the server. So if you really like 1 pawn, if the owner plays and levels them up, you may be able to resummon them at the higher level, though their skills may have changed as well. But you should expect to be swapping pawns in and out regularly as you go
Love your stuff man. Been following since Bannerlord released. Love me some DD. Have been waiting 10+ years for this one. I’m gonna try archer bc I usually play the up-close and personal melee characters, and I want to try something different. Do you really think these are the only hybrid and advanced vocations we are getting though? I have a hard time believing we won’t get advanced archer and thief vocations. Same for the fighter/thief and archer/thief hybrids. Seems odd.
Can a thief go into a mystic spearhand. My only question?
If it's like dd1 you can change into any vocation at a trainer. So don't worry about what you start as, if you're not feeling a vocation just change it. No restart necessary.
What they said :)
Wayfarer for sures, I want to have a bow but that mystic spearhand is INSANE
R.I.P. Mystic Knight.
I know I'm bummed because that's what I wanted to play!
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I'm holding out on hope that the Warfarer will allow you to approximate MK. If not, sticks are cool too. 🤣 Glad to see you making quality videos for another game I'm looking forward to. Your no BS approach is such a relief after the years of Destiny 1 "news" I put up with.
I made Melina as my mage pawn. The "fire keeper" of elden ring.
Got wipelash from that F bomb, been a while since I heard that word on TH-cam lol
Hahahaha I sneak it in here and there 😏 especially on stream
why arisen only class? this is they only mistake about this game classes.
Probably cause making ai to use the more complex playstyles is a waste of time, in the first game hybrid classes were also player only
I want to try the Trickster before getting frustrated and switching to an easier class.
Don't worry, dragons dogma isn't hard, and I really doubt them when they say the game is going to be harder. As long as you have stamina and heals, you'll be fine.
HAHAHAHA
Do we know how intelligent the AI is for pawns?
In the first game its hard to get them to do exactly what you want. Maybe this game will be different.
how would we know that from a 30 minute demo
All the hands on have praised the pawns because the first game had terrible pawn AI. how that really looks is yet to be seen
can't wait to play this game❤
I'll be starting with Archer.
Where I go from there, well see.
That's what I'm thinking too!
@@italianspartacus I'll eventually master all of them, but archer is where I'm starting.
I'm curious to see how the augments work this time around.
My warrior sorcerer combo bout to go crazy
Bruv I saw the wayfarer create and climb an ice pillar, followed by slam dunking an ogre with a great sword so yeah I know what my class is gonna be.
Farewell assassin my beloved :( ...
It shall be missed!
@@italianspartacus But you know what won't be missed? The money I spent this morning buying Dragon's Dogma II from your nexus store
I’m going slightly smaller female thief & huge beast man fighter pawn
Greatsword play as Gutz from Berserk.
appreciated!
NO YOU'RE APPRECIATED
@@italianspartacus I see what you did there...
The Mage is the only vocation that has an advanced version (the sorcerer) the other vocations have no advanced version (unless you want to consider the warrior the advanced version of the fighter)
What about magic archer?
Advanced Vocation just means that you have to advance to it, you can't choose it from the beginning. It doesn't mean that it's a more advanced version of a basic vocation. Sorcerer uses a different weapon than Mages and loses access to Mage abilities, they serve different roles in a party, just like Fighters and Warriors serve different roles and use different weapons. Just like Rangers and Striders used different weapons and had different abilities.
@@penhedlarry7694 thats a hybrid vocation between mage and archer
Warrior literally is the advanced vocation for fighter, why did you bother writing out this comment when you already know that
@@RaphaelAmbrosiusCosteau51 I literally mentioned that, the school system failed you, you can’t read
Fighter all the way for me. While warrior made me fall in love with dd1, fighter was more my playstyle. I like being the main tank. Drawing aggro to protect my party, and using instant blocking along with moves with invincibility frames to keep myself safe while dishing out damage along with staggering large targets. All I'm hoping is that shield drum actually draws aggro more consistently this time around.
“70 bucks” man I wish it was, in my country it’s 100$ lol
Worth it
GOD DAMN
I would die if modders made the trickster weild a youtube censor as a weapon.
Give me that sword and board and the dark souls style parry. I'm going to start as a fighter
I think you forgot the ranger too
Are they doing that goofy bs from the first game where you have to play a class you dont want to for 100 levels to get decent stats forbthe class you want?
Nope! Stats are way easier n more flexible now
@italianspartacus thank God. I also thought it was silly that a lot of classes didn't even get the stats they need
@@Dingus2 *magick archer and mystic knight* *cough cough*
Can't decide if I want to be guts or thorfinn 😭
I’m thinking magick archer
That and spear hand just look so good
i think i am going with the theif
Do we think this game is worth the price though? It probably is, and honestly probably one of the only ones at that price that should be worth that price, but maannnn its steep...
Yea 70 bucks is a lot and if you don’t have enough the game will most likely be on discount for about 50 bucks in 6-9 months
bro it’s 2024. 70 has been the norm for like 5 years now and you knew this game’s (and any other in the last few years) release date months prior. this is a game where you know it’s an instant buy, so you should have put away like idk at least 10 dollars a week for 7 weeks 😂😂😂
If you’re on pc steam keys are on sale in various legit places for like 50 something
@@getgoodscy get out of here with your rational and sensible thinking. Haha
@@getgoodscy but it’s less a question about it being expensive it’s more a question of value. Lots of games have released at that price yes, but not a lot are worth that price… alright fine I’ll admit, I have serious PTSD from buying D4 honestly. Played it for the first few weeks and have regretted it ever since.
Mage for me i was a mage in ddda
Mage always
Sorcerer after? Or just pure mage?
Excited for thief, sad I haven’t seen Assassin in DD2 😢
Looks like it won't be coming :(
I hate that there’s no secondary weapons in this game . For the people who loved the Strider, assasin, Ranger or even magic archer there’s not really anything in this game for you
I've been worried about that too. I loved having a sword and bow in dd1. That said I'm still excited for the game. Hoping I can just not use a shield on fighter and have some sense of my dd1 character.
Just play warfarer, same thing but weaker, probably not by that much.
Oh why dosent that spearhand be just a spear, halberd… ..polearm user. Spear has been the best weapon for fighting across history. We NEED polearms in games.
Thief may be the best at dealing damage by climbing monsters but every vocations can climb monsters.
I just wanna to clarify this
Edit: woops should have watch the video longer before commenting
I'm actually annoyed at myself for not bringing it up earlier hahaha glad you caught it :)
I'm gonna play as Guts from berserk so I'm definitely going warrior