You should have priced it all out for those of us new to the hobby. This looks like a Neo Scorcher with add ons. I'm not convinced some of them will matter, so the price point is critical when deciding. The Neo Scorcher is $165, are ther $100 worth of upgrades? Should someome decide they want to pick and choose what upgrades to start with, pricing is important.
@@broderp You can look on the Tamiya website, or a site like AMain hobbies to find the cost of the hop-ups. Also everyone has different wants/needs when it comes to how they drive and where they drive. The basic kit might work for you, but you definitely should get a set of bearings at a minimum. They give you plastic bushings that wear out over time. This kit has way over $100 worth of hop-ups. Probably closer to $200 or more.
Hey! Yes I have the TT02BR and I really love it. 100% worth it. I have raced it indoors and out and it is a pleasure to drive and handles like a charm. I agree that there should be an aluminium motor mount. WTF Tamiya?? I went brushless and it is terrific. Cheers
Nice! Yes, you can definitely put brushless in these too...even if you wear down some gears they are easy and cheap to replace. I've already built mine and driven it, it does really drive great, handles well. I still have to paint the body, I'm not sure what colors I'm using. I'll probably make a follow up video on it. Thanks for watching!
Good point Keith, I didn't think about that. The TT-02 definitely needs some of these upgrades, I'm happy Tamiya put this kit out...this is how the TT-02 should be. It is missing the aluminum motor mount, and it needs some tinkering/shimming but overall I'm very happy with it.
I have one of them and also purchased the YR aluminum motor mount and YR c-hubs and steering bits. I put a Hobbywing Just Stock 13.5 motor/esc combo and a Savox low profile servo in it. Took it to my local indoor carpet track and on my first run with it (maybe second run) I jumped it into the wall and broke one front arm, bent the front u-shaft, and cracked the front shock tower because it landed upside down fairly hard. I'm new to off-road buggy racing so take my experience for what it is. I upgraded the front u-shaft to one of their steel pin upgrades and replaced the arm. the one part that I'm having trouble replacing is the shock tower with the kit version because it is different from the other aftermarket/Tamiya upgrade parts.
Tamiya sells the carbon fiber damper upright set, but it's not cheap. It does come with all the hardware and a full set of turnbuckles also. I like the YR stuff because it is a little cheaper, but this BR kit is by far the best deal. I do think it would take a lot of upgrades and tinkering to make it good enough to compete with other 4wd RCs, unless it is a Tamiya specific race of course. Thanks for watching! Have fun with yours!
If I knew the br kit existed before I'd ordered my neo scorcher from tamiya over seas I'd have bought it for sure, but since they shipped it from Japan I decided to just roll with it and buy upgrades over time if things break. Just rippin it around my apartment and complex and parks around here. Not trying to bash it.
@@ConTheDon187 Yeah, I did the same thing. I bought the Plasma Edge 2 and some hop ups... probably spent the same or more for less hop ups than what comes in this kit. I've since sold it and just have the BR kit. It is a bargain at this price too. They did a great job with this kit. Thanks for watching!
I have been tempted to pick this one up. It definitely seems like a great one to get as it is fully loaded right out of the box. It is curious why the aluminum motor mount is not in there, especially if it comes with the high speed gear set, usually those and the prop shaft are king of a group upgrade for most folks.
Typical Tamiya though, they knew we would go out and buy the motor mount. Literally everything I would want is included. I like the fact that parts are cheap and available for these TT-02 chassis kits too. I sold the Plasma Edge II, I have no regrets 😂
Adam I as well as many would love to see a BR on your channel. I’ve seen your other TT-02B builds/videos, you’ll enjoy the build. I felt it was well worth the price with the exception of WHY didn’t Tamiya include a motor mount considering the plethora of option parts geared for performance. But I do understand the awful high prices other countries pay for the same kit and some countries don’t get ESC’s in their Tamiyas
@@VintageJoe1976 I will have to move it up on the list of things to get then! It does look like it would be a really nice one and I have an idea for the paint scheme as well. It is kind of odd no motor mount but I guess they wanted at least one upgrade you would need to buy! 😂
@@newsmansuper2925 I've had a bunch of TT-02 kits, the steering is sloppy, but I haven't felt the need to upgrade it. If I raced them I would definitely change the steering setup. But for me it's been ok.
Love your videos and I’m excited to see your build! 😁🤙🏽 I personally just built mine with some extra hop-ups including the motor mount. Two parts I wish Tamiya would have added to make this kit a home run for me is of course the motor mount, but also stainless steel suspension shafts. Those screw pins are rust prone that could lead to binding. I also tuned what I felt needed , shims in the front C hubs and rear hubs, dust covers for the ball ends except the shock ball ends and Urethane Bushing to remove slack from the drive shaft and universal drive shafts.
Hey Joe...Glad you like the videos, I appreciate you watching! I'm with you on the screw pins, I'm not a fan. I like to replace them when I can. I should probably stock a bunch of common size hinge pins. I use the urethane bushings too, I hate that slop with the universals and dog bones. The only issue I found is if you run them hard you have to replace them every so often...but that's not a big deal anyway. I'm not going to make a build video on this, but I'll definitely make a follow up video once I'm done and I run it.
You got that right! I've definitely paid way too much for budget RCs trying to make them cooler, or perform better. So kits like this are perfect for me.
Great video. Good car. However, for the price tag, sticking with Tamiya, I would rather get the Top Force which has more personality. For competition, Schumacher vintage cars win the game hands down both in terms of looks, pedigree and performance. I have TT02's but also many other 4x4 cars including a ProCat (cheaper than the TT02!) and an XLs. Both are way better cars.
@@DavidVoisin-ij2bh Absolutely, but if someone is a TT-02B fan, this is the one to get. The Top Force is ok, I would rather spend the extra on an Evo and have it fully upgraded. No doubt there are better choices for racing, but the parts are cheap and plentiful too so for a Tamiya fan it's a good choice. Even the new (based on an old chassis) 4wd Dirt Cross is better and cheaper.
I have a TT-02BR and I think it is great! I agree with you about the motor mount and I put one on my car. I got kind of weird with the power though. I put in a Castle Creations Copperhead ESC and a Castle Creations 1406-3800kv motor. The esc is a pretty tight fit, but the motor fits well (I am pretty sure that the esc/motor is worth more than the car). I could run a 3s battery with this setup, but I only run a 2s lipo and even with that, it is more than a little overpowered, but I have not broken anything in the drivetrain yet. It goes like stink and is more than a little difficult to control. I don’t think I would like to take it on a racetrack (even if I had one in the area).
Some hop-ups are needed but some are a bit less advantageous... the upgrade drive shaft ends are an old design used by Schumacher over 25 years ago. I've been racing Tamiya since the early 80s and I absolutely love Tamiya..., but for topflight competitive racing, I will always go for Schumacher
Brilliant unboxing Eric. I still like this kit and I am still tempted but the price over here in the UK is £300 and it just feels too expensive but you can’t argue with the amount of upgrades. Can’t wait to see the build pal 🙌🏻
I was lucky to find it for 210USD... I totally recommend it at that price! I'm not going to make a build video on this one, but I'll make a follow up video after the build...I might use a color I've never used before, try something new. Hint...Barbie would love it 😂
Just a FYI its 4,100,000 Rupiah in Indonesia so its about 202 Pounds 😅 i snagged one up and its worth it! Its too good that i dont want to run it its my shelfer, which tbh its a shame. 🤷♂️
My issue with kits like this is that they cost almost the same as a professional racing buggy kit while being no where near the same quality. Other than buying it for the Tamiya name I just see no reason to spend so much on a kit when you could pick up a team associated or Schumacher for almost the same price (here in the uk at least).
It's a little different here, I only paid 210US after a discount. The basic kit is anywhere between 130-150 so for me it's a good deal. The aluminum dampers alone are 60US. But I totally get what you are saying, if you are looking for better performance you normally wouldn't buy a Tamiya anyway. I love my Tamiya RCs, but if I was racing it wouldn't be with a Tamiya. Thanks for the comment, and for watching!
You should have priced it all out for those of us new to the hobby. This looks like a Neo Scorcher with add ons. I'm not convinced some of them will matter, so the price point is critical when deciding. The Neo Scorcher is $165, are ther $100 worth of upgrades? Should someome decide they want to pick and choose what upgrades to start with, pricing is important.
@@broderp You can look on the Tamiya website, or a site like AMain hobbies to find the cost of the hop-ups. Also everyone has different wants/needs when it comes to how they drive and where they drive. The basic kit might work for you, but you definitely should get a set of bearings at a minimum. They give you plastic bushings that wear out over time. This kit has way over $100 worth of hop-ups. Probably closer to $200 or more.
Hey! Yes I have the TT02BR and I really love it. 100% worth it. I have raced it indoors and out and it is a pleasure to drive and handles like a charm. I agree that there should be an aluminium motor mount. WTF Tamiya?? I went brushless and it is terrific. Cheers
Nice! Yes, you can definitely put brushless in these too...even if you wear down some gears they are easy and cheap to replace. I've already built mine and driven it, it does really drive great, handles well. I still have to paint the body, I'm not sure what colors I'm using. I'll probably make a follow up video on it. Thanks for watching!
It really is a nice kit. It actually has more to offer than the MS version.
Good point Keith, I didn't think about that. The TT-02 definitely needs some of these upgrades, I'm happy Tamiya put this kit out...this is how the TT-02 should be. It is missing the aluminum motor mount, and it needs some tinkering/shimming but overall I'm very happy with it.
I have one of them and also purchased the YR aluminum motor mount and YR c-hubs and steering bits. I put a Hobbywing Just Stock 13.5 motor/esc combo and a Savox low profile servo in it. Took it to my local indoor carpet track and on my first run with it (maybe second run) I jumped it into the wall and broke one front arm, bent the front u-shaft, and cracked the front shock tower because it landed upside down fairly hard. I'm new to off-road buggy racing so take my experience for what it is. I upgraded the front u-shaft to one of their steel pin upgrades and replaced the arm. the one part that I'm having trouble replacing is the shock tower with the kit version because it is different from the other aftermarket/Tamiya upgrade parts.
Tamiya sells the carbon fiber damper upright set, but it's not cheap. It does come with all the hardware and a full set of turnbuckles also. I like the YR stuff because it is a little cheaper, but this BR kit is by far the best deal. I do think it would take a lot of upgrades and tinkering to make it good enough to compete with other 4wd RCs, unless it is a Tamiya specific race of course. Thanks for watching! Have fun with yours!
If I knew the br kit existed before I'd ordered my neo scorcher from tamiya over seas I'd have bought it for sure, but since they shipped it from Japan I decided to just roll with it and buy upgrades over time if things break. Just rippin it around my apartment and complex and parks around here. Not trying to bash it.
@@ConTheDon187 Yeah, I did the same thing. I bought the Plasma Edge 2 and some hop ups... probably spent the same or more for less hop ups than what comes in this kit. I've since sold it and just have the BR kit. It is a bargain at this price too. They did a great job with this kit. Thanks for watching!
I have the Br and I love it. Great comparison between the two kits
@@JoevsRc Thanks Joe, it's a bargain in my opinion. This is how the TT-02B RCs should all be.
I have been tempted to pick this one up. It definitely seems like a great one to get as it is fully loaded right out of the box. It is curious why the aluminum motor mount is not in there, especially if it comes with the high speed gear set, usually those and the prop shaft are king of a group upgrade for most folks.
Typical Tamiya though, they knew we would go out and buy the motor mount. Literally everything I would want is included. I like the fact that parts are cheap and available for these TT-02 chassis kits too. I sold the Plasma Edge II, I have no regrets 😂
Adam I as well as many would love to see a BR on your channel. I’ve seen your other TT-02B builds/videos, you’ll enjoy the build. I felt it was well worth the price with the exception of WHY didn’t Tamiya include a motor mount considering the plethora of option parts geared for performance. But I do understand the awful high prices other countries pay for the same kit and some countries don’t get ESC’s in their Tamiyas
@@VintageJoe1976 I will have to move it up on the list of things to get then! It does look like it would be a really nice one and I have an idea for the paint scheme as well. It is kind of odd no motor mount but I guess they wanted at least one upgrade you would need to buy! 😂
so maybe should buy the aluminium steering arrangement due to slop
@@newsmansuper2925 I've had a bunch of TT-02 kits, the steering is sloppy, but I haven't felt the need to upgrade it. If I raced them I would definitely change the steering setup. But for me it's been ok.
Love your videos and I’m excited to see your build! 😁🤙🏽 I personally just built mine with some extra hop-ups including the motor mount. Two parts I wish Tamiya would have added to make this kit a home run for me is of course the motor mount, but also stainless steel suspension shafts. Those screw pins are rust prone that could lead to binding. I also tuned what I felt needed , shims in the front C hubs and rear hubs, dust covers for the ball ends except the shock ball ends and Urethane Bushing to remove slack from the drive shaft and universal drive shafts.
Hey Joe...Glad you like the videos, I appreciate you watching! I'm with you on the screw pins, I'm not a fan. I like to replace them when I can. I should probably stock a bunch of common size hinge pins. I use the urethane bushings too, I hate that slop with the universals and dog bones. The only issue I found is if you run them hard you have to replace them every so often...but that's not a big deal anyway. I'm not going to make a build video on this, but I'll definitely make a follow up video once I'm done and I run it.
That does look like a great deal. Sometimes, buying a budget car is not cost effective!
You got that right! I've definitely paid way too much for budget RCs trying to make them cooler, or perform better. So kits like this are perfect for me.
Great video. Good car. However, for the price tag, sticking with Tamiya, I would rather get the Top Force which has more personality.
For competition, Schumacher vintage cars win the game hands down both in terms of looks, pedigree and performance. I have TT02's but also many other 4x4 cars including a ProCat (cheaper than the TT02!) and an XLs. Both are way better cars.
@@DavidVoisin-ij2bh Absolutely, but if someone is a TT-02B fan, this is the one to get. The Top Force is ok, I would rather spend the extra on an Evo and have it fully upgraded. No doubt there are better choices for racing, but the parts are cheap and plentiful too so for a Tamiya fan it's a good choice. Even the new (based on an old chassis) 4wd Dirt Cross is better and cheaper.
I have a TT-02BR and I think it is great! I agree with you about the motor mount and I put one on my car. I got kind of weird with the power though. I put in a Castle Creations Copperhead ESC and a Castle Creations 1406-3800kv motor. The esc is a pretty tight fit, but the motor fits well (I am pretty sure that the esc/motor is worth more than the car). I could run a 3s battery with this setup, but I only run a 2s lipo and even with that, it is more than a little overpowered, but I have not broken anything in the drivetrain yet. It goes like stink and is more than a little difficult to control. I don’t think I would like to take it on a racetrack (even if I had one in the area).
Some hop-ups are needed but some are a bit less advantageous... the upgrade drive shaft ends are an old design used by Schumacher over 25 years ago.
I've been racing Tamiya since the early 80s and I absolutely love Tamiya..., but for topflight competitive racing, I will always go for Schumacher
Thanks for your alternative perspective. I will look into Schumacher for sure
Brilliant unboxing Eric. I still like this kit and I am still tempted but the price over here in the UK is £300 and it just feels too expensive but you can’t argue with the amount of upgrades. Can’t wait to see the build pal 🙌🏻
I was lucky to find it for 210USD... I totally recommend it at that price! I'm not going to make a build video on this one, but I'll make a follow up video after the build...I might use a color I've never used before, try something new. Hint...Barbie would love it 😂
Just a FYI its 4,100,000 Rupiah in Indonesia so its about 202 Pounds 😅 i snagged one up and its worth it! Its too good that i dont want to run it its my shelfer, which tbh its a shame. 🤷♂️
@@hendrahendraproblem we have in the UK is the import taxes and sales taxes add another 25% or more. One day I will find one 😊
My issue with kits like this is that they cost almost the same as a professional racing buggy kit while being no where near the same quality. Other than buying it for the Tamiya name I just see no reason to spend so much on a kit when you could pick up a team associated or Schumacher for almost the same price (here in the uk at least).
It's a little different here, I only paid 210US after a discount. The basic kit is anywhere between 130-150 so for me it's a good deal. The aluminum dampers alone are 60US. But I totally get what you are saying, if you are looking for better performance you normally wouldn't buy a Tamiya anyway. I love my Tamiya RCs, but if I was racing it wouldn't be with a Tamiya. Thanks for the comment, and for watching!