I grew up in Sidcup and rode the train to Charing Cross more times than I can remember. The sound of the wheelsets screaming in protest on the way out of Charing Cross really brought back memories...
For those unfamiliar with the tangled intricacies of South London's rail network, captions naming stations, and perhaps also junctions, would have made this video even more enjoyable!
if i had a quid invested (back then) for every time I crossed that bridge ( at 29:55) on my way to and from school, or watching the 413s and even the double decker 4DD pass by the back of my house.... I would be rich old man. amazing how some is very different and some identical to how i remember it. I remember them adding the reversing siding just before I moved away from Sidcup in 1968.
A bit late but some may find it useful. From Charing x stops are as follows- Waterloo East London Bridge (Under construction at time of filming so no stop) (9'20 line diverges -L is the line to Greenwich-Dartford.) New Cross (No Stop) Bypass St Johns Climbing up the Lewisham Vale/ Tanners Hill Line crossing over the SE Main Line. 12'.30 Lewisham (A serious amount of crossovers. The line to the L is the Bexleyheath Line, Again ending up at Dartford.) After Lewisham the line diverges to the L which is the Courthill Loop leading to The SE Mainline. (The line straight on is the Mid Kent line leading all the way to Brighton in the South and Ashford/Folkestone in the SE.) 16'20 Hither green (The line diverging to the R is the SE Mainline leading to Orpington/Swanley.) 18'35 Lee 21'35 Mottingham 24'01 New Eltham 28'55 Sidcup Then into sidings at Sidcup for return to Charing X.
41:43 from experience of living in Crayford for 2 decades, L344 being double yellow (and its Three Bridges' resignalling replacement) is very rare: 99% of the time I've seen a train pass through on yellow or green.
😁 - we don’t mind our own induced stench - assuming he had the window open, I fart; outside - away from others, in private and on the toilet. = The driver’s compartment would be private.
I love the turbo/turbine-style sound it makes at last phrase of the motor! Also, imagine the hornby class 466 with a sound chip of metro cammell gec alsthom motors
@@jameskingsford7794 yeah those are the best , I'm pretty sure most drivers find them appealing to listen too, gives the train a powerful sound. 465s are likely the only trains to have this sound. I think they have a fan in the traction motor.
on this video around the 38min mark there is what seems to me two big square boards on a pole, I am thinking these may be what I need to get measured, they show a Number or a letter THANKS
@@emmo999 THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH MY QUESTIONS End of Platform INDICATOR BOARDS ???? THEATRE BOXES ???? 41.26 Nearing the end of the LEFT Platform, I see a white 2 story building, on the right I see something similar. What is after the Platforms is Overhead Bridge, at the end of the left platform is a POLE with 2 white boxes that have black fronts, there is a SIGNAL with 1 Yellow, after the Train has stopped this turn 2 double yellow. THE POLE with the BOXES look similar to what I have seen in other Videos, but not point to the TRACK( I am thinking these are pointing to the Driver with timetable, perhaps) MY other viewings are mainly on a GANTRY, over the RAILS, viewed from the front of the Train, these mainly have a Letter or a Number showing. My Plan has 1 RH points in Reverse along with 9 Doubleslip Points a row, 1-0 indicating one of these tracks that go off to the right, (1,2,3,4,)5,6,(7,8,9,0,) if ONE of these are on then that point will be open to use. from these Doubleslip to the right will be the MAIN YARD, to the left will have other RH points to go to the DOUBLE LOCO SHED. I am thinking YELLOW NUMBER ON = SHUNTER coming from the left, if GREEN ON = YARD TRACK READY, LIGHTS OUT, :) no one home, FULL or empty. 1-4 will be Stone Wagons, empty to get loaded 5-6 should be Free 8-9 Passenger Main 7-0 Passenger Siding
The boxes on the left contain 6 monitors, so the driver can see all along the platform to know when it is safe to close the doors and then pull away. But these are not fitted at Cannon Street that you commented on before. So you’re asking about all different things. The monitor boxes are at virtually every Southeastern metro station away from the centre of London. So pop down your local station and you’ll find them (A theatre box is the LED matrix sign you asked about before that shows a letter, or number, to indicate the route set by the signaller)
@@emmo999 Again THANKS for your reply. if I was closer to UK I would be happy to visit these Stations to check out them myself, but I live in Australia. I have watch your CANNON STREET video (6yrs ago) and there is some of what I want, THEY Show up just after the train moves out,(42Seconds) there was one with a letter "D" showing
Right well that’s a theatre box, which is not what you’re talking about at 38 minutes or 41 minutes. So you’re asking about two completely different things
Waterloo East, London Bridge (closed at the time for rebuilding), New Cross (passed on fast lines, St.Johns (ditto), Lewisham, Hither Green, Lee, Mottingham, and New Eltham.
There seems to be an awful lot of control settings on this train? In most of the train videos I've watched, all we hear is a notch being selected and the brake being released. What exactly is going on?
So on these trains there is only one controller for the power and the brake. And just like every vehicle coming to a halt, sometimes you need to release the brake to get it to stop exactly where you want. The noise is exacerbated by the fact it activates a lot of relays in the cab
Hey! thank you for answering me on your other cab ride video. Now having since keenly discovered a whole slew of other types of tracking from the train-starved Americas over here, does our train ply a swingnose crossing at 9:52? I'm also curious about what type of crossing adjacent at left immediately follows it practically at the same moment, but the whitish dusting all over its rails while being speedily passed make it hard to tell, do you know its type too please?
trainrover the white paint is to keep the track cooler in hot sun (reduces heat expansion). Looks like another switched diamond, if we're looking at the same one
emmo999 emmo999 Sun? What sun?! Less than ⅒ of cab videos over there reveal any sunshine happening (I'm just teasing). Anyhow, that paint must be solid enamel considering the trip occured wintertime..if only the same could be said about our roadway paint here. Thanks again: I now see both crossings being switch diamonds because their noses(?) bear no moving part; only their broad-angled joints(?) do.
@@emmo999 I am wondering the point of having switched diamonds seeing as the only 2 viable routes are the one you are on and the crossover, in which case surely an open diamond crossing with not moving parts would serve the same purpose. Either turnout is far to abrupt to be workable.
You’ll note I do this on later videos. Now they’re encoded, it is too late to do it on the older videos, unless someone wishes to add closed captions on TH-cam
Not naming the Stations has spoilt what should be a good vid'. Not all of us are conversant with the route , vid's like this are generally watched by enthusiasts , so what is happening along the way is important to us . That goes for all cab rides , otherwise interest in the ride tends to taper off . Take a leaf out of Don Coffey's book , he is a real dab hand at keeping us involved right to the end of the ride .
As per all the other comments saying the same, take a look at all my recent videos - I have done exactly this. But it is too late to go back and re-encode these older videos to add captions to all these
In what way noisy? These are the normal noises for a BREL Networker, although the cab has noises from the power controller you wouldn’t hear in the passenger area. It also sounds like the cab window was open
It would also have been helpful if you would have told us the type of locomotive used in the video. Automatic thumbs down for lack of pertinent information.
A relaxing ride this day. Absolutely enjoyable. Thank you. See you on the next! 🇬🇧🙂👍🇺🇸
I grew up in Sidcup and rode the train to Charing Cross more times than I can remember. The sound of the wheelsets screaming in protest on the way out of Charing Cross really brought back memories...
Squealing Cross ! Aarre Peltomaa
That Up & Over Junction just North of Lewisham is a right masterpiece of of P/Way jiggery pokery, great stuff !
For those unfamiliar with the tangled intricacies of South London's rail network, captions naming stations, and perhaps also junctions, would have made this video even more enjoyable!
You’ll note on all my recent videos, I have done exactly that. But unfortunately these earlier videos do not have captions
Add as a subtitle 😅
if i had a quid invested (back then) for every time I crossed that bridge ( at 29:55) on my way to and from school, or watching the 413s and even the double decker 4DD pass by the back of my house.... I would be rich old man. amazing how some is very different and some identical to how i remember it. I remember them adding the reversing siding just before I moved away from Sidcup in 1968.
A bit late but some may find it useful.
From Charing x stops are as follows-
Waterloo East
London Bridge (Under construction at time of filming so no stop)
(9'20 line diverges -L is the line to Greenwich-Dartford.)
New Cross (No Stop)
Bypass St Johns Climbing up the Lewisham Vale/ Tanners Hill Line crossing over the SE Main Line.
12'.30 Lewisham (A serious amount of crossovers. The line to the L is the Bexleyheath Line, Again ending up at Dartford.)
After Lewisham the line diverges to the L which is the Courthill Loop leading to The SE Mainline. (The line straight on is the Mid Kent line leading all the way to Brighton in the South and Ashford/Folkestone in the SE.)
16'20 Hither green (The line diverging to the R is the SE Mainline leading to Orpington/Swanley.)
18'35 Lee
21'35 Mottingham
24'01 New Eltham
28'55 Sidcup Then into sidings at Sidcup for return to Charing X.
At 28:30, there is a fox going under the signal wiring cabinet… :)
You are right ! Pretty fox. I hope that he stays smart, and doesn't go under the wheels. Aarre Peltomaa
I absolutely loved it!
Ian Ashton iii
41:43 from experience of living in Crayford for 2 decades, L344 being double yellow (and its Three Bridges' resignalling replacement) is very rare: 99% of the time I've seen a train pass through on yellow or green.
38:40 nice fart 😂😂
Sure that wasn't air in the brakes.
@@amsmith123 Nope. Definitely air in the driver!
😁 - we don’t mind our own induced stench - assuming he had the window open, I fart; outside - away from others, in private and on the toilet. = The driver’s compartment would be private.
Yes he did cut a good one!
Love these videos,,keep up the good work and keep them coming 👍
I have a fair few in the queue. Just need time to edit them together and get them online
@@emmo999 I find them soothing and relaxing to watch in the evenings
I was in b and q dartford, and the Hitachi IGBT Inverters kicked in and it made that tturbine style sound it scared me
Great video, Thanks! Would it be possible to include the names of the stations??
Fordtacho please
I can't believe how much clunking is needed to stop and start the train in this video.
That's just the noise the lever makes lool as he/she pushes it up and down
I love the turbo/turbine-style sound it makes at last phrase of the motor! Also, imagine the hornby class 466 with a sound chip of metro cammell gec alsthom motors
Oh yes you mean the Hoover/ jet sound it makes at speed ?
@@bb-3653 yeah
@@jameskingsford7794 yeah those are the best , I'm pretty sure most drivers find them appealing to listen too, gives the train a powerful sound. 465s are likely the only trains to have this sound. I think they have a fan in the traction motor.
on this video around the 38min mark there is what seems to me two big square boards on a pole, I am thinking these may be what I need to get measured, they show a Number or a letter THANKS
I’m now confused what you’re looking at. There are certainly no theatre boxes along this section of route
@@emmo999 THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH MY QUESTIONS
End of Platform INDICATOR BOARDS ????
THEATRE BOXES ????
41.26
Nearing the end of the LEFT Platform, I see a white 2 story building, on the right I see something similar. What is after the Platforms is Overhead Bridge, at the end of the left platform is a POLE with 2 white boxes that have black fronts, there is a SIGNAL with 1 Yellow, after the Train has stopped this turn 2 double yellow. THE POLE with the BOXES look similar to what I have seen in other Videos, but not point to the TRACK( I am thinking these are pointing to the Driver with timetable, perhaps)
MY other viewings are mainly on a GANTRY, over the RAILS, viewed from the front of the Train, these mainly have a Letter or a Number showing.
My Plan has 1 RH points in Reverse along with 9 Doubleslip Points a row, 1-0 indicating one of these tracks that go off to the right, (1,2,3,4,)5,6,(7,8,9,0,) if ONE of these are on then that point will be open to use. from these Doubleslip to the right will be the MAIN YARD, to the left will have other RH points to go to the DOUBLE LOCO SHED. I am thinking YELLOW NUMBER ON = SHUNTER coming from the left, if GREEN ON = YARD TRACK READY, LIGHTS OUT, :) no one home, FULL or empty.
1-4 will be Stone Wagons, empty to get loaded
5-6 should be Free
8-9 Passenger Main
7-0 Passenger Siding
The boxes on the left contain 6 monitors, so the driver can see all along the platform to know when it is safe to close the doors and then pull away. But these are not fitted at Cannon Street that you commented on before. So you’re asking about all different things. The monitor boxes are at virtually every Southeastern metro station away from the centre of London. So pop down your local station and you’ll find them
(A theatre box is the LED matrix sign you asked about before that shows a letter, or number, to indicate the route set by the signaller)
@@emmo999 Again THANKS for your reply. if I was closer to UK I would be happy to visit these Stations to check out them myself, but I live in Australia.
I have watch your CANNON STREET video (6yrs ago) and there is some of what I want, THEY Show up just after the train moves out,(42Seconds) there was one with a letter "D" showing
Right well that’s a theatre box, which is not what you’re talking about at 38 minutes or 41 minutes. So you’re asking about two completely different things
Excellent. Thanks, Emo.
Good quality video. Needs only captions to be 💯
Another nice trip, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
would locals mind if their stations along their line weren't fenced in there?
I assume this is one of the 'Hitatchi'd' 465's?
yep...usually the 465 /1s
I live on the other side of the world so it would have been better had you put Station names up.
This video is now over 4 years old. You’ll note on my more recent videos I caption anything interesting, including stations
Waterloo East, London Bridge (closed at the time for rebuilding), New Cross (passed on fast lines, St.Johns (ditto), Lewisham, Hither Green, Lee, Mottingham, and New Eltham.
There seems to be an awful lot of control settings on this train?
In most of the train videos I've watched, all we hear is a notch being selected and the brake being released. What exactly is going on?
So on these trains there is only one controller for the power and the brake. And just like every vehicle coming to a halt, sometimes you need to release the brake to get it to stop exactly where you want. The noise is exacerbated by the fact it activates a lot of relays in the cab
New signal lights, new trains. What’s next?
No signals!.... a rolling block?
Hey! thank you for answering me on your other cab ride video. Now having since keenly discovered a whole slew of other types of tracking from the train-starved Americas over here, does our train ply a swingnose crossing at 9:52? I'm also curious about what type of crossing adjacent at left immediately follows it practically at the same moment, but the whitish dusting all over its rails while being speedily passed make it hard to tell, do you know its type too please?
trainrover the white paint is to keep the track cooler in hot sun (reduces heat expansion). Looks like another switched diamond, if we're looking at the same one
emmo999 emmo999 Sun? What sun?! Less than ⅒ of cab videos over there reveal any sunshine happening (I'm just teasing). Anyhow, that paint must be solid enamel considering the trip occured wintertime..if only the same could be said about our roadway paint here. Thanks again: I now see both crossings being switch diamonds because their noses(?) bear no moving part; only their broad-angled joints(?) do.
@@emmo999 I am wondering the point of having switched diamonds seeing as the only 2 viable routes are the one you are on and the crossover, in which case surely an open diamond crossing with not moving parts would serve the same purpose. Either turnout is far to abrupt to be workable.
Pmsl did you let rip in your tiny cab at 38:40 :) nice video though cheers for upload :)
33stevelinda Haha! I honestly have no idea! I might have done lol
Haha never mind pal :) id love to do your job everyday shame im 200 miles out of london every morning :(
33stevelinda When you gotta go...!
Haha Damn right pal :)
What happens if you follow through?
Interesting journey , shame no info.
It would help if you identified the stations you stopped at or passed through.
You’ll note I do this on later videos. Now they’re encoded, it is too late to do it on the older videos, unless someone wishes to add closed captions on TH-cam
@@emmo999 I just saw a wierd name for a station, "Do Not Alight Here"! LOL
I can confirm that is not a station along the route! 😅
@@emmo999 Just me having some fun. That's all.
What class and what regional train was it?
So what happened to the tunnel to Glasgow Queen Street?
This is Charing Cross in London, not Glasgow. So my knowledge north of the border is somewhat limited, sorry!
@@emmo999 shame you should really take a trip to the listed Wemyss bay train station.
So many amazing lines to try and travel. I am aware of the amazing structure at Wemyss Bay. Fingers crossed I get chance to get up that way some time
Not naming the Stations has spoilt what should be a good vid'. Not all of us are conversant with the route , vid's like this are generally watched by enthusiasts , so what is happening along the way is important to us . That goes for all cab rides , otherwise interest in the ride tends to taper off . Take a leaf out of Don Coffey's book , he is a real dab hand at keeping us involved right to the end of the ride .
As per all the other comments saying the same, take a look at all my recent videos - I have done exactly this. But it is too late to go back and re-encode these older videos to add captions to all these
Thanks for the update . Great news for later vid's
quite an obvious SPAD at 38.40, Shit Pants, A Disaster ! LOL
richard timms When you gotta go....! Lol
I know what a blapper sounds like. I hope he checked his chonies!
Mike Wilson and
richard timms and wsdewddrc
Are all train’s from Charring Cross this noisy?
In what way noisy? These are the normal noises for a BREL Networker, although the cab has noises from the power controller you wouldn’t hear in the passenger area. It also sounds like the cab window was open
The sound has just been enhanced by the mic, their actually pretty normal sounding and comfortable when you ride them.
Why can’t you name the stations en route?
Its dificul to watch but cam is not strait 👀
Too late now. These earlier videos are what they are. Hopefully you enjoy the newer ones better
Do c2c train
chelsea andrew what if he’s not a driver for c2c
This have a 3nd rail
No station names…poor.
It would also have been helpful if you would have told us the type of locomotive used in the video. Automatic thumbs down for lack of pertinent information.
Paul Bryan class 465
@@crownjulesgaming542 bro?