That comment about what's left of Glitchtale's mantel had me in pieces on the floor. You're pretty funny and I can definitely see your channel going places! This was a really solid video summarizing the general insanity this fandom has generated. Only thing I'd like to bring up is the parts of my original Flowerfell video I got wrong (you can see it in the screenshot too I'm begging people to read the pinned comment) The Flowerfell blog and creator (Sanei) was very much a Frans shipper but the person who wrote the actual story that's canon for the AU was a Chans (Chara and Sans) shipper so they deliberately made the relationship platonic. It's a difficult situation of the original creator and the storyline mismatching. The creator's friends attribute the shutting down of the AU to harassment but more specifically to the fiction kins. While obviously I find the Frans distasteful, harassing someone to leaving isn't going to change their mind it's just gonna make them cling to it harder. It's a pretty apt demonstration of how toxic this hellhole we inhabit is at the end of the day. Keep up the work I can't wait to see what you upload next.
@@StreamlineWorkshop ahh, okay that whole FlowerFell situation makes sense I saw another comment that said that the creator wasn’t all innocent, and I was so confused 😭 Like the hell did I miss, and now I know. So that’s good to know
There’s a world more than ideal, It’s one where no one has to steal, One where no one ever lies and One where no one ever dies This world that we could live in, That perfect world, pure of sin, One small change is all we missed And with that change, This world can exist Without you
as someone who joined the fandom kinda late, thanks for going over the history and worsening my underverse/undertale brainrot ^^ i SERIOUSLY hope the undertale fandom stays alive even if deltarune is more popular - its fandom can obviously be toxic n stupid at times, but i love this community a ton and its creativity !!
Here here! I got dragged back into Undertale full force by an amazing UTY fanfic, and now here I am at my desk, planing and posting my own AU. The community has it’s faults, but literally every community does, there is no escape. An example is the Splatoon community: according to the plaza posts, there seems to be a debate going on creating posts on religion and LGBT themes and “why can’t I talk about my faith if you can talk about your orientation?” Some people are trying to calm the fire through the plaza posts to, but the whole thing is a mess. But my point is no one is perfect, we just have to try and be good.
I don't really know what to say, you pretty much summed up crom what ive experenced in the undertale fandom I guess speaking on what will happen when underverse reaches its full chapter and seeming undertale probably won't get another type of crazy series maybe...i'm might say the fan games will do splendid for those that love undertale or maybe slightly some comics will be out who knows 🤷♂️
There is a SoundCloud tournament themed around doawk which isn’t a au of undertale but it is related to undertale called diary of a tourney kid that included gaster as the villian of the tournament, he also turns the losers who lost into goners and once the goners lose again, they are eliminated and resurrected as gaster’s followers, the tournament is currently on gr3 since gr2 ended with a announcement of some rewrites of the story. It started out as a joke and spoof tourney until the story went darker to lr2-gr1
Thank you for making this video 💖 I have never watched your videos before but this is one of the most special most dedicated videos I have ever seen. The voice of Error is amazingly accurate and I love when he shows up, I genuinely teared up you have managed to bring out many feelings that I had about Undertale in this video that I wish I could talk with to someone, English isn't my first language but my point remains that I'll always come back to Undertale no matter what, sure the fandom is dead sometimes but it's still alive- when Deltarune will come out once again everyone is gonna also be hyped for Undertale once again, we still don't know many things about Undertale after all even if Deltarune and Undertale aren't exactly related games, I'm never going to be ashamed for being an Undertale fan, for crushing over a skeleton and actually having comfort characters that are in alternative universes, thank you I hope this gets so many views as it should because you really deserve so much because of the effort put in this video and surely the others too, I'm not too sad about the future of Undertale, I cherish all the memories that everyone has, that I had with friends or even strangers online about the games, thank you Toby Fox for creating Undertale and Deltarune, and take care of yourselves everyone, 'cause someone really cares about you! 💖
I surprisedly learned alot from this and had afew laughs aswell i personally think undertale will be okay even when deltarune chapter comes out (excited for it) i think many people will still see undertale the fact it's been around for 10 years shows how vast the community is and i have a feeling in some way deltarune will in some form expand the growth of the two over time. Also error and that other sans were really funny
People back then when they made Chara overly Evil, even though we literally know so little about the characters Me: Mann these guys don't get the game at all do they Nowadays people overseeing/ pretending like chara is a saint, even though again, WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM EXPECT THE TAPES AND THE ONE STATEMENT ASRIEL MADE Asriel : I guess chara, wasn't that much of a great friend Me: oh come on can't they just take the pro and cons and move on Still amazing videos and appreciate the effort you put into the videos
The retrospect of the fandom itself is pretty interesting to watch as someone who while loving the game never interacted with the fandom, the most fandom interaction I had back then was by watching Jacksepticeyes playthrough (which I have rewatched at least more than 20 times by now) Mischaracterization is also surprisingly common for most characters, I replayed undertale myself and ended up finding characters even more enjoyable than I thought I did cause of how they get represented in the fandom space. It's just really interesting to me at least
Thought I should leave a comment on this. I think the points are 1000% accurate, but I hope that the Multiverse still goes strong. I think Undertale Yellow will be the one to reignite the fandom. There's always fan-Underverse media. Being late to the fandom (2019) myself, the stories I made on A03 (HopeOfTheLorewriter) were influential to my view of the fandom as a whole (and inspired by another lesser known fanfic called HopeTale by FilledWithHope), and to how I percieve really any media nowadays. Well, yeah, that's my slice of commentary. Great video, I consider this guy the best video essayer of the AUs in general. Thanks!
Also, wanted to add as well, I squealed with Doctor Megalo mentioned. I recently discovered it on a whim and GOD IT IS SO F*bark*ING GOOD!!! P.S.: Thanks for the heart, I love your stuff man, your content is what I'd do if I was a TH-camr and not shy to get on camera haha.
Not exactly a promo but I do have my own alternate Multiverse based on Underverse on A03, starting with Abyssal Destruction, by HopeOfTheLorewriter. (please dont @ me for the A03 username drop, comments, be kind on this underground author thanks-)
I will most definitely check out Doctor Megalo. I've actually got _my own_ evil timeloop Alphys idea, and I even have a wiki page for that version of her. May make an actual story. All I'll say is that, from what little I know, our ideas are _quite_ different.
With the current popularity of Undertale yellow, and Deltarune getting news content pretty soon my prediction is for me will get new content that get milk and thuse new content while be created with it. Also can people stop simping Ceroba-
I LOVE MADNESS AND ERROR'S DYNAMIC IN THIS OH MY GOD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 But yeah, Undertale and its community have gone through some... tumultuous times, to put it lightly. I don't care, I'll still make Undertale stuff on AO3 and on wikis and I'll take inspiration from whatever I wanna take inspiration from. But to not _acknowledge_ how bad it's gotten with the toxic side of this community would just be silly.
About AlphaTale, it literally has infected going to littletale and… doing stuff i am not allowed to say The creator of alphatale defended this, saying it was ok due to being child R instead of child P (it was both, and neither are ok) 44:54 OMG DR MEGALO MENTION BEST AU EVER1!1!1!!1!1
Yeah, AlphaTale at its way to get cancelled at this point lmao. Just becasue infected is "ultimate evil" doesnt mean shad can do a CP and just publish it as something normal bruh when the majority of fandom filled with kids.
I...dont think you understand Chara's role at all. Chara is indeed a villain. They willingly assist you from the moment you start the run. Unlike Flowey, Chara never hesitates. The "Who is the True Villain of Undertale" video twists evidence and outright lies about most of its points. Chara is the consequence. They are not an innocent person being "twisted" by us, they are ENABLED by us. We allow them to take control. We do not make them evil or force them to be evil.
Ok wow we won’t talk even a word of the roblox side of the fandom with well want to say goats but it’s just ULC holding the whole thing up (and hopefully lad’s new game) but I hate the only content on the roblox side is gameplay and showcases on TH-cam
@@lozadae1 ngl, I did forget a lot about the Roblox side, but to be fair. A lot of roblox games are either roleplays or just 3d battle arenas, and others like judgement day I don’t play enough Undertale roblox for me to have an opinion on it 😭
@ ok what else would you even make beside fighting ut games, if you want to make a real Undertale game, you wouldn’t do it on roblox, there is rpgs but they all suck, snowdin seems ok tho but haven’t played it yet tho
Hey wanna know about the dusttales? Watch Haloboi3's dusttale he made cool videos telling the story by the music alone. Happeey12 please watch his dusttale videos from ruins up to finale. It's peak dusttales.
Hey not gonna lie love error here quick question is this canon error he beat by the way you said he's stronger cuase he is kinda weak outside of hax Edit dr megalo is literally one of my favorite aus every character is in character and i just love it didn't expect that call out
@solanaheart so, i can't really explain it here So i suggest going to steamshop's video on it and look at the top comment cause it has a link for a doc that properly explains it by someone who was friends with the creator But if you don't wanna do that then just know that the creator was also a frans shipper and has stalked one of their former friends
That comment about what's left of Glitchtale's mantel had me in pieces on the floor. You're pretty funny and I can definitely see your channel going places!
This was a really solid video summarizing the general insanity this fandom has generated. Only thing I'd like to bring up is the parts of my original Flowerfell video I got wrong (you can see it in the screenshot too I'm begging people to read the pinned comment)
The Flowerfell blog and creator (Sanei) was very much a Frans shipper but the person who wrote the actual story that's canon for the AU was a Chans (Chara and Sans) shipper so they deliberately made the relationship platonic. It's a difficult situation of the original creator and the storyline mismatching. The creator's friends attribute the shutting down of the AU to harassment but more specifically to the fiction kins. While obviously I find the Frans distasteful, harassing someone to leaving isn't going to change their mind it's just gonna make them cling to it harder.
It's a pretty apt demonstration of how toxic this hellhole we inhabit is at the end of the day.
Keep up the work I can't wait to see what you upload next.
@@StreamlineWorkshop HOLY MOLY HI, I DIDNT EXPECT YOU HERE
Thank you so much!!
@@StreamlineWorkshop ahh, okay that whole FlowerFell situation makes sense
I saw another comment that said that the creator wasn’t all innocent, and I was so confused 😭
Like the hell did I miss, and now I know.
So that’s good to know
Man, they really shouldn't have left that to Chans. Now they're gonna have to move to Frans!
Editing this cause I didn’t realize you talked about doctor megalo, HOLY SHIT it NEEDS To be animated cause the story is fucking awesome
there some videos of it to understand what's is going on and gotta say the comic of it........*most informative"
Madness and errors dynamic was funny as hell fr
There’s a world more than ideal,
It’s one where no one has to steal,
One where no one ever lies and
One where no one ever dies
This world that we could live in,
That perfect world, pure of sin,
One small change is all we missed
And with that change, This world can exist
Without you
Under tale last brwtah phas 3 ref3n3xh?!?!!
Madness's and Error's interactions are so silly
They are silly :>
We really need more Deltarune. I don't know how far the insanity will go without it.
as someone who joined the fandom kinda late, thanks for going over the history and worsening my underverse/undertale brainrot ^^
i SERIOUSLY hope the undertale fandom stays alive even if deltarune is more popular - its fandom can obviously be toxic n stupid at times, but i love this community a ton and its creativity !!
Here here!
I got dragged back into Undertale full force by an amazing UTY fanfic, and now here I am at my desk, planing and posting my own AU.
The community has it’s faults, but literally every community does, there is no escape. An example is the Splatoon community: according to the plaza posts, there seems to be a debate going on creating posts on religion and LGBT themes and “why can’t I talk about my faith if you can talk about your orientation?” Some people are trying to calm the fire through the plaza posts to, but the whole thing is a mess.
But my point is no one is perfect, we just have to try and be good.
I don't really know what to say, you pretty much summed up crom what ive experenced in the undertale fandom I guess speaking on what will happen when underverse reaches its full chapter and seeming undertale probably won't get another type of crazy series maybe...i'm might say the fan games will do splendid for those that love undertale or maybe slightly some comics will be out who knows 🤷♂️
there's like 3 big fangames currently being made, i think
There is a SoundCloud tournament themed around doawk which isn’t a au of undertale but it is related to undertale called diary of a tourney kid that included gaster as the villian of the tournament, he also turns the losers who lost into goners and once the goners lose again, they are eliminated and resurrected as gaster’s followers, the tournament is currently on gr3 since gr2 ended with a announcement of some rewrites of the story. It started out as a joke and spoof tourney until the story went darker to lr2-gr1
Guys he might not be dead
Thank you for making this video 💖 I have never watched your videos before but this is one of the most special most dedicated videos I have ever seen. The voice of Error is amazingly accurate and I love when he shows up, I genuinely teared up you have managed to bring out many feelings that I had about Undertale in this video that I wish I could talk with to someone, English isn't my first language but my point remains that I'll always come back to Undertale no matter what, sure the fandom is dead sometimes but it's still alive- when Deltarune will come out once again everyone is gonna also be hyped for Undertale once again, we still don't know many things about Undertale after all even if Deltarune and Undertale aren't exactly related games, I'm never going to be ashamed for being an Undertale fan, for crushing over a skeleton and actually having comfort characters that are in alternative universes, thank you I hope this gets so many views as it should because you really deserve so much because of the effort put in this video and surely the others too, I'm not too sad about the future of Undertale, I cherish all the memories that everyone has, that I had with friends or even strangers online about the games, thank you Toby Fox for creating Undertale and Deltarune, and take care of yourselves everyone, 'cause someone really cares about you! 💖
2:500 Clicker tale reference?
😀 32:58 as well AMAZING so much attention to that wonderful game clicker tale, my beloved
This was a pretty fun video to watch, i'm suprised there hasn't been other discussions like this.
I surprisedly learned alot from this and had afew laughs aswell i personally think undertale will be okay even when deltarune chapter comes out (excited for it) i think many people will still see undertale the fact it's been around for 10 years shows how vast the community is and i have a feeling in some way deltarune will in some form expand the growth of the two over time.
Also error and that other sans were really funny
A great video that definitely didn't rupture my eardrums
People back then when they made Chara overly Evil, even though we literally know so little about the characters
Me: Mann these guys don't get the game at all do they
Nowadays people overseeing/ pretending like chara is a saint, even though again, WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM EXPECT THE TAPES AND THE ONE STATEMENT ASRIEL MADE
Asriel : I guess chara, wasn't that much of a great friend
Me: oh come on can't they just take the pro and cons and move on
Still amazing videos and appreciate the effort you put into the videos
Very excited to watch this, i can already tell you put alot of work into this ^w^
The retrospect of the fandom itself is pretty interesting to watch as someone who while loving the game never interacted with the fandom, the most fandom interaction I had back then was by watching Jacksepticeyes playthrough (which I have rewatched at least more than 20 times by now)
Mischaracterization is also surprisingly common for most characters, I replayed undertale myself and ended up finding characters even more enjoyable than I thought I did cause of how they get represented in the fandom space. It's just really interesting to me at least
Thought I should leave a comment on this. I think the points are 1000% accurate, but I hope that the Multiverse still goes strong. I think Undertale Yellow will be the one to reignite the fandom. There's always fan-Underverse media. Being late to the fandom (2019) myself, the stories I made on A03 (HopeOfTheLorewriter) were influential to my view of the fandom as a whole (and inspired by another lesser known fanfic called HopeTale by FilledWithHope), and to how I percieve really any media nowadays. Well, yeah, that's my slice of commentary. Great video, I consider this guy the best video essayer of the AUs in general. Thanks!
Also, wanted to add as well, I squealed with Doctor Megalo mentioned. I recently discovered it on a whim and GOD IT IS SO F*bark*ING GOOD!!!
P.S.: Thanks for the heart, I love your stuff man, your content is what I'd do if I was a TH-camr and not shy to get on camera haha.
Not exactly a promo but I do have my own alternate Multiverse based on Underverse on A03, starting with Abyssal Destruction, by HopeOfTheLorewriter. (please dont @ me for the A03 username drop, comments, be kind on this underground author thanks-)
21:18 speaking of mha you don’t want to even know what kind of AU they have 😅
I have a feeling that Undertale is going to have a Super Mario-like legacy, and it'll be popular for the next 25 yrs
Edit: Also congrats on 2k!!!
Great summary of it! And yes you pronounced it right lol
"there are obviously moments of mischaracterization" is gonna haunt me thou/ jk
Oh thank goodness TwT
@@artsyrean5515 Sorrryyyyyyyyy 😭
I will most definitely check out Doctor Megalo. I've actually got _my own_ evil timeloop Alphys idea, and I even have a wiki page for that version of her. May make an actual story.
All I'll say is that, from what little I know, our ideas are _quite_ different.
I forgot about interlopers thanks
Do I probably know what most of this video is going to say before I even watch it yes, am I going to watch it anyway yes
With the current popularity of Undertale yellow, and Deltarune getting news content pretty soon my prediction is for me
will get new content that get milk and thuse new content while be created with it.
Also can people stop simping Ceroba-
I LOVE MADNESS AND ERROR'S DYNAMIC IN THIS OH MY GOD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
But yeah, Undertale and its community have gone through some... tumultuous times, to put it lightly. I don't care, I'll still make Undertale stuff on AO3 and on wikis and I'll take inspiration from whatever I wanna take inspiration from. But to not _acknowledge_ how bad it's gotten with the toxic side of this community would just be silly.
45:46 Hey don't forget DustTale Last Genocide, that cooked.
hes back
33:45
cereb the think tank is never gonna get recognition istg 😭
7:07 if i didn't relate to sans' laziness PAPYRUS would be my favorite character (don't worry he is number two)
YOUR BACK?!?
every time i hear "undertale fandom" I think "oh god" but i love y'all even though i hate y'all sometimes
This is peak.
Almost 10 years since it began oh my gosh why is the passage of time a thing
40:50 Madness story drop when?! WE ARE WAITING!!! /nf
Late December of 2069
About AlphaTale, it literally has infected going to littletale and… doing stuff i am not allowed to say
The creator of alphatale defended this, saying it was ok due to being child R instead of child P (it was both, and neither are ok)
44:54
OMG DR MEGALO MENTION
BEST AU EVER1!1!1!!1!1
Yeah, AlphaTale at its way to get cancelled at this point lmao.
Just becasue infected is "ultimate evil" doesnt mean shad can do a CP and just publish it as something normal bruh when the majority of fandom filled with kids.
The person who made the chara stronger than you video is reanimating it and another artist is making their own undertale au series
@@nicnakneo WHAT NO WAY
@@Happeey12no joke I've seen their streams
Name drop of the other artist ?
@@ilmiraculousdibill3686 the one making the au series?
@@nicnakneo yep
it's somewhat fine currently, pretty good compared to the start.
yoo augest minner mentioned!
bro why did vss catch a stray wtf is this?
I...dont think you understand Chara's role at all.
Chara is indeed a villain. They willingly assist you from the moment you start the run. Unlike Flowey, Chara never hesitates.
The "Who is the True Villain of Undertale" video twists evidence and outright lies about most of its points.
Chara is the consequence. They are not an innocent person being "twisted" by us, they are ENABLED by us. We allow them to take control. We do not make them evil or force them to be evil.
As an american, this isn't even close to as toxic as it gets.
WE ARE SO BACK!!!!!!
Nice video
2:46 and let's just not talk about the creator of the villains sans squad
Ok wow we won’t talk even a word of the roblox side of the fandom with well want to say goats but it’s just ULC holding the whole thing up (and hopefully lad’s new game) but I hate the only content on the roblox side is gameplay and showcases on TH-cam
@@lozadae1 ngl, I did forget a lot about the Roblox side, but to be fair.
A lot of roblox games are either roleplays or just 3d battle arenas, and others like judgement day
I don’t play enough Undertale roblox for me to have an opinion on it 😭
@ ok what else would you even make beside fighting ut games, if you want to make a real Undertale game, you wouldn’t do it on roblox, there is rpgs but they all suck, snowdin seems ok tho but haven’t played it yet tho
If we’re lucky lad won’t abandon it in 6 months to work on a newer version
History awesome cool Nice
Hey wanna know about the dusttales?
Watch Haloboi3's dusttale he made cool videos telling the story by the music alone.
Happeey12 please watch his dusttale videos from ruins up to finale. It's peak dusttales.
Stretch Dusttale The Demo is an rlly good dusttale and so is Murderous Comedy.
@@sharky4029 UT!DustTale also peak too where Sans aint the murder.
Hey not gonna lie love error here quick question is this canon error he beat by the way you said he's stronger cuase he is kinda weak outside of hax
Edit dr megalo is literally one of my favorite aus every character is in character and i just love it didn't expect that call out
Error literally wall level if you take away his HAX lmao
@@antunderexist692 you could highball to get him to universal. But that's more hax as well
i read happytale
Human I remember you’re the genocides 💀
Error was right
HOW DARE YOU BOT USE ASTERISM ON THE OUTERTALE SEGMENT RAHHHHHH
While this is a good video
There's alot of missing information in the flowerfell section
The creator is not as innocent that's all i will say
What do you mean? I thought the creator did nothing wrong
@solanaheart so, i can't really explain it here
So i suggest going to steamshop's video on it and look at the top comment cause it has a link for a doc that properly explains it by someone who was friends with the creator
But if you don't wanna do that then just know that the creator was also a frans shipper and has stalked one of their former friends
@@solanaheart *streamline workshop
Not steamshop's
@@victoroliveira3577 Yeah just becasue flowerfell author was frans fan, whole commuity sent death thread which kinda stupid.
ight beter start working on the next series or smth, also i think you forgot about a pretty peak game called undertae last corridor
8th