Levi. I’m so glad your on a Polaris. They need someone like you to help advertise their sleds. Your an awesome ambassador for this sport and Polaris. 👍😊
@@brentbeiler7051 hence why I said that. They are getting alot of negative reviews on all their recalls and reliability issues. And when he tells people that they have already been using this system on the side by sides people are less likely to start in on how it’s gonna break down and be costly to fix
Yes for advertising, idk if he has imput on shock valving, but what Polaris gives u is completely off. Nobody likes shocks that bottom or just get stiff as a rock when u turn up the clicker. The shock actually has to work! Not just get rock stiff to stop bottoming. That's where Polaris and Walker Evans shocks are way out to lunch. I feel these guys that use to race sleds that are use to rock stiff suspension are actually given wrong imput into ride quality vs someone who puts on a couple thousand mi of riding trails a season. Those race guys get on a softer feeling trail sled vs race sled and think it's great
to help me understand where you are coming from, if I knew a little more about what you are riding? how aggressive of a rider you are? What your weight is (if you don’t mind saying). Prior to Dynamix, vr1 was great through the smaller bumps because of the lighter suspension (valving and springs), but once you got into bigger bumps, it would bottom out. The XCR with the stiffer suspension is a bit stiff for me to ride through small bumps and have it absorb the bumps/“drive through them” like a trophy truck. It handles the bigger hits better but at 160 lbs, it deflects off the small bumps unless I am going super fast through them. With Dynamix, it rides through small bumps like the vr1 does, but automatically gets stiff enough for the hard hits.
Once you ride a sled with semi active shocks you wont go back. Took my wife 10 minutes to say she wanted them as well. You cant do what these can do with clickers...... Trail riding is totally different than snow cross. On the trail conditions change all day and sometimes just from one clubs to another and one trail number to another based on grooming, weather and amount of traffic. You can change this on the fly. The reduced body roll in hard corning is amazing.
Today's sleds are simply too expensive! The average guy can't buy them. I tried spring snow check and just stopped dreaming, it won't happen in my lifetime. OVER $25,000. no way.
I'm gonna say u are wrong! U must have never rode a properly valved and sprung shock for you. Exit X2s with triple springs up front dual in the rear. W rebound adj. Sled is most soft and comfortable riding sled I've ever rode. Get in the big woops, the harder u pound it the sled just dances with u between you legs. It's such a awesome feeling. I love end of days coming home in 40mi of wooped out trails . No if your comment is towards stock shocks Polaris gives u on a sled. Then I'd say yes, because Polaris valving and spring choices are so out to lunch they are good for a 120-160lb rider. They are Horrible!
Levi. When are you going to get a partner and fly up to Alaska to race the 2,500+ mile Iron Dog Race? You'll encounter some of the fastest racers in the world that deal with moguls/chatter bumps/flat racing. Sometimes white out conditions or racing in near blizzard conditions, flat light, middle of the night, racing past and over ice shelfs, boulder rocks, tight portages, and every other condition you can think of imaginable. I know Alaska would welcome you and your partner with open arms and see how you stack up with everyone here. And maybe after a few years or more of trial and error you and your partner can be on that podium of the world's toughest race. Ive always wanted to see the top snocross racers come up here and participate in it. Ive got connections if you ever get that inkling
Really Like the idea of not having to run stiffer valving all day maintaining comfort on the trail from small chatter while still getting the occasional big hit protection. If that makes sense lol
For long rides it will be awesome! I think about riding on the weekend- morning the trails are smooth, by lunch there are small bumps, by end of ride it is rough… who stops and adjust the shocks to make the ride better? Very few people. now Dynamix does it for you. 👍🏼
I just looked and it appears you can only get it on the 4 stroke or 2 stoke turbo Doos. The comparable 2 stoke turbo Dynamix VR1 is the same price. Also the Polaris is the only manufacture to control all 4 shocks instead of only 3. Polaris also offers Dynamix in the 650 and 850 engines so you can have a more manageable power for and you don't have have the extra cost of the turbo. You are correct in say one can get semi active suspension for about $5000 cheaper- if you buy the Polaris 650 Dynamix .
Levi .. how do you compare the VR1 w/ Dynamix to a XCR? You always state how XCR were designed for big bunps and g-outs etc … how does dynamix eat those up in comparison?
He says “imagine going into a corner and that outside shock stiffens” I don’t have to imagine. I’ve had it for the last 3 years on my skidoo with smart shox
Do you think this sled could hold up in Cain's Quest? Currently researching to race in the next race. If you don't know what Cain's Quest is, in a nutshell it's the longest, toughest and most dangerous snowmobile race in the world. 3100 km race.
They might survive in the Cain's Quest race. But one thing they will not last in is the nearly 2,600 mile Iron Dog Race in Alaska which is easily hands down the hardest and most grueling snowmobile race in the world. With the cold ass -30F temperatures at times I'm sure these shocks will be an issue and with basically everyone having to replace shocks before the halfway check point I'm sure there would be issues with programming them each time as well. Can't beat Walker Evans for that reason. And if you dare think about racing the Iron Dog then you and your partner should be prepared to spend an easy $35K each. Practice sleds and race sleds, upgraded titanium parts, carbon belly pans, saddle tanks, paying for the fuel, entry fees and the list goes on and on. The guys that race and place top 10 up here are a whole different breed
Few times have a turned down power so i would go boost. The power on the straights is what makes boost fun but if that doesn’t matter much to you, the 850 is a strong engine. Yes still get heavier torsion spring if you are heavier as that is what holds the sled up at the proper ride height.
Now tell Polaris to dial in those shocks for that chatter u went thru. Thats what most have to ride for 40+ miles in areas at 50-60+ mph. To be honest that looked rough in comfort. I can tell u this , U go thru that with properly valved and sprung shocks, the camera doesn't pick that up. It makes it look way less then it is. I tried to gopro trails that weren't grommed for days in a area and i couldn't use my sled cause it made it look smoother then what it really was. I have this suspension in my Pro XP RZR and it was good for 2-300mi then had to spend almost 2k in revalve and new Springs that were correct for machine to make it ride how it should from Factory. Sad I wont buy this till i hear many reviews from people that rode it all season. I learned my lesson to many times on First yr Polaris products
I’ve had most of the Polaris trail sleds for the last 5 years and have been able to do many back to back comparisons with them. I believe the Dynamix is as smooth as a regular VR1 (which is know for being smooth through the chatter), yet Dynamix doesn’t bottom when you hit something hard. Plus with Dynamix you have the benefits of body roll prevention, keeping the front end down under acceleration, and airborne mode so if you come off the ground the shox go stiff. With any production machine, it will not be sprung perfect for everyone do to weight, riding style, and conditions you ride in. As mentioned in the video, I am a smaller than average guy and for normal riding, I run a little bit lighter set up. If you are a larger rider and if you ride hard, you will most likely have to adjust the springs and possibly valving. To understand better could you explain how the Dynamix was good for a few hundred miles, then it wasn’t good after that? What changed?
Amazing technology I’m sure it’s incredible but my 2 issues are the price almost 25,000$$ REALLY and how will all this high tech hold up we all know Polaris and there many issues and recalls I want one but can’t pull the trigger
Yes it is amazing technology and yes it takes a lot of time, effort, and money to develop. As far as durability- been on RZR for years and people love Dynamix. Also Polaris and Fox have been testing it for years on the sleds so I'm confident its going to hold up.
You will need heavier springs but depending on what kind of riding you do, I think it would work well. In a trail riding application it would be awesome for you.
“Bumps” is very broad word in suspension talk. A persons interruption of what it means can go from small chatter bumps, to moguls I can jump doubles and triples t through. One could say the regular VR1 takes small bumps better than XCR, especially if you are a lighter rider. For me XCR doesn’t go through small bumps as well as a normal VR1 but it takes the harder hits better. But I am 160 lbs. if you are heavier rider, the XCR can go through it and feel like the VR1 does for me - smooth. With Dynamix you the comfort of the Soft suspension, with the confidence of the stiffer suspension when you need it.
@@Levi_LaVallee thank you so much for your reply and your feedback. I’m hoping next year they would make an XCR with the fox dynamic suspension, seems like it would be a winning ticket. Because then you have the beafed up rails and components and more idler wheels, and also racing brake, and also the bent handlebar hooks that the XCR has.
Not sure what you consider as prime conditions but :46 chatter bumps and :51 when the bumps are big enough to get airborne on I personally do not consider them prime conditions for trail riding. I tried to incorporate small bumps, big bumps, corners, acceleration, and braking to give the most accurate example of what Dynamix is capable of on the trail. Please explain what you would do to give a better real world trail test so i can understand better?
The VR1 and XCR is pretty much the same snowmobile. The only real difference is the suspension package. Polaris made it so that its now a choice of either an XCR 9R with the WE Velocity shocks or a boost VR1 with Dynamix.
@@Jens_Martin correct, the XCR used to diffrentiate with 2" shocks all the way around but now that's gone with the Dynamix setup. At this point the only thing you are locked out of is the 9R on the VR1.
Keeping the front end down? As an Assault rider I don't know what that is nor do I want it haha. That's the funniest thing about snowmobiling. I love ripping huge wheelies. P.S. We need to start calling them skilies not wheelies :)
That Polaris brake is so cringe. God i hate riding a Polaris for that alone. I hated the soft squishy feel. Makes it so difficult to burn the brakes in a turn. 🫤🫤😒😒
Levi. I’m so glad your on a Polaris. They need someone like you to help advertise their sleds. Your an awesome ambassador for this sport and Polaris. 👍😊
He’s been with polaris forever and a day. 🤷🏻♂️
@@brentbeiler7051 hence why I said that. They are getting alot of negative reviews on all their recalls and reliability issues. And when he tells people that they have already been using this system on the side by sides people are less likely to start in on how it’s gonna break down and be costly to fix
Yes for advertising, idk if he has imput on shock valving, but what Polaris gives u is completely off. Nobody likes shocks that bottom or just get stiff as a rock when u turn up the clicker. The shock actually has to work! Not just get rock stiff to stop bottoming. That's where Polaris and Walker Evans shocks are way out to lunch. I feel these guys that use to race sleds that are use to rock stiff suspension are actually given wrong imput into ride quality vs someone who puts on a couple thousand mi of riding trails a season. Those race guys get on a softer feeling trail sled vs race sled and think it's great
@@kwmiked wow. Sounds like they don’t need Levi. Sounds like they need you for better Ride quality 😁
to help me understand where you are coming from, if I knew a little more about what you are riding? how aggressive of a rider you are? What your weight is (if you don’t mind saying).
Prior to Dynamix, vr1 was great through the smaller bumps because of the lighter suspension (valving and springs), but once you got into bigger bumps, it would bottom out.
The XCR with the stiffer suspension is a bit stiff for me to ride through small bumps and have it absorb the bumps/“drive through them” like a trophy truck. It handles the bigger hits better but at 160 lbs, it deflects off the small bumps unless I am going super fast through them.
With Dynamix, it rides through small bumps like the vr1 does, but automatically gets stiff enough for the hard hits.
Once you ride a sled with semi active shocks you wont go back. Took my wife 10 minutes to say she wanted them as well. You cant do what these can do with clickers...... Trail riding is totally different than snow cross. On the trail conditions change all day and sometimes just from one clubs to another and one trail number to another based on grooming, weather and amount of traffic. You can change this on the fly. The reduced body roll in hard corning is amazing.
it is awesome!
Today's sleds are simply too expensive! The average guy can't buy them. I tried spring snow check and just stopped dreaming, it won't happen in my lifetime. OVER $25,000. no way.
I'm gonna say u are wrong! U must have never rode a properly valved and sprung shock for you. Exit X2s with triple springs up front dual in the rear. W rebound adj. Sled is most soft and comfortable riding sled I've ever rode. Get in the big woops, the harder u pound it the sled just dances with u between you legs. It's such a awesome feeling. I love end of days coming home in 40mi of wooped out trails . No if your comment is towards stock shocks Polaris gives u on a sled. Then I'd say yes, because Polaris valving and spring choices are so out to lunch they are good for a 120-160lb rider. They are Horrible!
Polaris is in the junk stage again so many recalls and the stupid price is hoew to kill a sport
Nice to see ya using hand signals for on coming riders 👍🏻.
It helps for sure
Levi. When are you going to get a partner and fly up to Alaska to race the 2,500+ mile Iron Dog Race? You'll encounter some of the fastest racers in the world that deal with moguls/chatter bumps/flat racing. Sometimes white out conditions or racing in near blizzard conditions, flat light, middle of the night, racing past and over ice shelfs, boulder rocks, tight portages, and every other condition you can think of imaginable. I know Alaska would welcome you and your partner with open arms and see how you stack up with everyone here. And maybe after a few years or more of trial and error you and your partner can be on that podium of the world's toughest race. Ive always wanted to see the top snocross racers come up here and participate in it. Ive got connections if you ever get that inkling
Awesome!
It really is.
Really Like the idea of not having to run stiffer valving all day maintaining comfort on the trail from small chatter while still getting the occasional big hit protection. If that makes sense lol
For long rides it will be awesome!
I think about riding on the weekend- morning the trails are smooth, by lunch there are small bumps, by end of ride it is rough… who stops and adjust the shocks to make the ride better? Very few people. now Dynamix does it for you. 👍🏼
Hopefully next year it will be on a 9R XCR than I'll buy it.
That would be a hot set up for sure!
I been riding the awesome semi active suspension the past 2 years. I love it. Best part its comparable to XCR and $5k less
I just looked and it appears you can only get it on the 4 stroke or 2 stoke turbo Doos. The comparable 2 stoke turbo Dynamix VR1 is the same price. Also the Polaris is the only manufacture to control all 4 shocks instead of only 3.
Polaris also offers Dynamix in the 650 and 850 engines so you can have a more manageable power for and you don't have have the extra cost of the turbo.
You are correct in say one can get semi active suspension for about $5000 cheaper- if you buy the Polaris 650 Dynamix .
Levi .. how do you compare the VR1 w/ Dynamix to a XCR? You always state how XCR were designed for big bunps and g-outs etc … how does dynamix eat those up in comparison?
Ski-doo are still on top with their smart-shox.
You’re pretty darn lucky to have ridden both already
Polaris has no rebound control.
Dynamix is the only active suspension that controls all 4 of the shox instead of only 3.
@@Levi_LaVallee Pretty sure you will find smart shox is controlling all four as well.
@@barefootbob1269 only 3. not the front track shock
He says “imagine going into a corner and that outside shock stiffens” I don’t have to imagine. I’ve had it for the last 3 years on my skidoo with smart shox
Yet the dynamix system was on the rzr 3 years before can am ripped it off and put it on the maverick
Heck yeah!
its so good!
Do you think this sled could hold up in Cain's Quest? Currently researching to race in the next race. If you don't know what Cain's Quest is, in a nutshell it's the longest, toughest and most dangerous snowmobile race in the world. 3100 km race.
They might survive in the Cain's Quest race. But one thing they will not last in is the nearly 2,600 mile Iron Dog Race in Alaska which is easily hands down the hardest and most grueling snowmobile race in the world. With the cold ass -30F temperatures at times I'm sure these shocks will be an issue and with basically everyone having to replace shocks before the halfway check point I'm sure there would be issues with programming them each time as well. Can't beat Walker Evans for that reason. And if you dare think about racing the Iron Dog then you and your partner should be prepared to spend an easy $35K each. Practice sleds and race sleds, upgraded titanium parts, carbon belly pans, saddle tanks, paying for the fuel, entry fees and the list goes on and on. The guys that race and place top 10 up here are a whole different breed
Sound good.
Levi do you prefer this in the 850 or Boost? Also, for us bigger guys should we still upgrade to the larger torsion springs?
Few times have a turned down power so i would go boost. The power on the straights is what makes boost fun but if that doesn’t matter much to you, the 850 is a strong engine.
Yes still get heavier torsion spring if you are heavier as that is what holds the sled up at the proper ride height.
Now tell Polaris to dial in those shocks for that chatter u went thru. Thats what most have to ride for 40+ miles in areas at 50-60+ mph. To be honest that looked rough in comfort. I can tell u this , U go thru that with properly valved and sprung shocks, the camera doesn't pick that up. It makes it look way less then it is. I tried to gopro trails that weren't grommed for days in a area and i couldn't use my sled cause it made it look smoother then what it really was. I have this suspension in my Pro XP RZR and it was good for 2-300mi then had to spend almost 2k in revalve and new Springs that were correct for machine to make it ride how it should from Factory. Sad I wont buy this till i hear many reviews from people that rode it all season. I learned my lesson to many times on First yr Polaris products
I’ve had most of the Polaris trail sleds for the last 5 years and have been able to do many back to back comparisons with them. I believe the Dynamix is as smooth as a regular VR1 (which is know for being smooth through the chatter), yet Dynamix doesn’t bottom when you hit something hard. Plus with Dynamix you have the benefits of body roll prevention, keeping the front end down under acceleration, and airborne mode so if you come off the ground the shox go stiff.
With any production machine, it will not be sprung perfect for everyone do to weight, riding style, and conditions you ride in.
As mentioned in the video, I am a smaller than average guy and for normal riding, I run a little bit lighter set up. If you are a larger rider and if you ride hard, you will most likely have to adjust the springs and possibly valving.
To understand better could you explain how the Dynamix was good for a few hundred miles, then it wasn’t good after that? What changed?
nice!!!..very nice invention!!😁
it really is.
What about wheelie mode? I love pulling the skis off the ground when I race my buddy. Now your telling me it prevents you from doing that.
if you turn turn it the stiffer setting, it will limit it the wheelies. Softer setting not as much.
Do you think it could be retrofitted into a 2023 and the ECM updated if someone wanted to pay that money for all the stuff
I’m not sure if it will be available to retro Fit.
Come out west and ride a long track in the mountains
I rode a little a couple weeks ago, but the snow wasn’t very good.
Sure is fun when I get to
Amazing technology I’m sure it’s incredible but my 2 issues are the price almost 25,000$$ REALLY and how will all this high tech hold up we all know Polaris and there many issues and recalls I want one but can’t pull the trigger
Yes it is amazing technology and yes it takes a lot of time, effort, and money to develop. As far as durability- been on RZR for years and people love Dynamix. Also Polaris and Fox have been testing it for years on the sleds so I'm confident its going to hold up.
will it compensate for weight 300lbs
You will need heavier springs but depending on what kind of riding you do, I think it would work well. In a trail riding application it would be awesome for you.
What was the warning that popped up on the 7S 10:43 minutes in?
Brake warning, basically sensed he’s was on the brake for a while and thought parking brake might sill be on
Correct @maxbenson5328
I noticed the screen had a big red notice? What was it?
if you drag the brake for an extended time a warning comes up.
What was the big orange warning on the 7s
Curious to this as well
When you drag the brake for an extended amount of time, a warning comes up.
I’ve never seen that warning on any of the s7 I’ve had.
So it takes the bumps better than an XCR?
“Bumps” is very broad word in suspension talk. A persons interruption of what it means can go from small chatter bumps, to moguls I can jump doubles and triples t through.
One could say the regular VR1 takes small bumps better than XCR, especially if you are a lighter rider.
For me XCR doesn’t go through small bumps as well as a normal VR1 but it takes the harder hits better. But I am 160 lbs. if you are heavier rider, the XCR can go through it and feel like the VR1 does for me - smooth.
With Dynamix you the comfort of the Soft suspension, with the confidence of the stiffer suspension when you need it.
@@Levi_LaVallee thank you so much for your reply and your feedback. I’m hoping next year they would make an XCR with the fox dynamic suspension, seems like it would be a winning ticket. Because then you have the beafed up rails and components and more idler wheels, and also racing brake, and also the bent handlebar hooks that the XCR has.
I didn't see any real world trail testing there those appeared to be prime conditions.
Not sure what you consider as prime conditions but :46 chatter bumps and :51 when the bumps are big enough to get airborne on I personally do not consider them prime conditions for trail riding.
I tried to incorporate small bumps, big bumps, corners, acceleration, and braking to give the most accurate example of what Dynamix is capable of on the trail. Please explain what you would do to give a better real world trail test so i can understand better?
Skidoo already did this 2 years ago
Not with all 4 shox though.
@@Levi_LaVallee The experience will be the same to the end user.
What's a guy do who's traditionally a XCR rider, but Dynamix is a game changer???
The VR1 and XCR is pretty much the same snowmobile. The only real difference is the suspension package. Polaris made it so that its now a choice of either an XCR 9R with the WE Velocity shocks or a boost VR1 with Dynamix.
@@Jens_Martin correct, the XCR used to diffrentiate with 2" shocks all the way around but now that's gone with the Dynamix setup. At this point the only thing you are locked out of is the 9R on the VR1.
What do you like and dislike about XCR? Have you been on a VR1 before and if so what did you like and dislike?
Also what kind of riding do you do? What Percentage of trail / ditch banging do you do?
TOO MUCH MONEY 🤑
Technology isn’t cheap that’s for sure.
Keeping the front end down? As an Assault rider I don't know what that is nor do I want it haha. That's the funniest thing about snowmobiling. I love ripping huge wheelies. P.S. We need to start calling them skilies not wheelies :)
I’ve been calling them skilies for years haha.
@@Dannon65 thata boy
Haha. Skilies are going to take some getting used to
Polaris smart shox.. lol
integrated the same great Dynamix system people have loved for year on their RZR, onto the sleds now. Awesome to see .
Polaris are junk
That Polaris brake is so cringe. God i hate riding a Polaris for that alone. I hated the soft squishy feel. Makes it so difficult to burn the brakes in a turn. 🫤🫤😒😒