Too bad! R'n'r was such an exciting thing from 73 to 77,when JT was half alive. His guitar playing, man, nobody played like him. For r'n'r, he was the best.
@posthumanhero I thought we were discussing musicianship not production. However, if you think the mix on 'Raw Power' is more aesthetically pleasing than 'Funhouse' you really must have tin ears! I love the primeval stomp of the first album, but to say that the band had not vastly improved as musicians when they recorded their second is simply ridiculous. It was also Ron Ashetons' favourite piece of work.
This man Johnny Thunders, he is close to death, from heroin I believe, while performing this song. My question is, why do his band mates treat such behavior as business as usual? Very sad, his friends should have looked out for him. He was very good.
+NELSON X His bandmates probably condoned his behavior and/or were probably just as loaded as him. Believe me, when it comes to addicts most don't get clean through intervention.
+Jake Brown Maybe he was a living legend and people expected him to be so doped up, but his band mates, no, Johnny is absolutely blasted while they look fine. So Johnny is dead. To bad, he was good.
+NELSON X Walter, Billy and Jerry were full blown heroin addicts in the mid 70's till the mid 80's, not as bad as Johnny they could function without it being noticeable. Many people tried to save Johnny, but unfortunately the wrong crowd cheered and egged him on and he then wore it as a badge of honor at time. He himself knew he had problems and would never suggest to kids etc to take heroin. Heroin takes your soul and willpower, i've never even smoked a cigarette in my life, never once thought about drugs, Johnny is one influence as a guitarist and also what not to do in life at the same time.
The more stoned you are, the less you really want to do, and so you end up playing half as much and not doing as many vocals as you should. This video is such a classic illustration. He just wants to get through it so he tosses it off...
Well hate to be a grammar nazi here, but the track name is Born To Lose. If there was any debate about loose the track would be Born Too Loose. But yea i agree the lyrics at the end change to 'born too loose". lol :)
@posthumanhero I wasn't disputing that heroin stifled Thunders' talent, I was pointing out your examples were poor! Junkies can't make good music? check out Charlie Parker, Keith Levene or even the Chilli Peppers! 'Funhouse' is better than the first Stooges album, after Iggy and Scott Asheton had started using. Oh and btw Hawkwind also had a junkie frontman with Ron Tree. I don't think heroin use is cool, I just don't think dividing music into 'clean' or 'junkie' is worthwhile.
Hawkwind had at least two junkie drummers over the years, Biafra from the DKs tried it with Darby Crash; and as for citing the Moody Blues, Caravan and Earth Wind and Fire, maybe if they'd tried smack they might have made music that wasn't so bloody dull!
the energy & spirit of this shit is super fucking cool.....but the drug usage is not. if you're able to come 1/10 close to this w/o using, consider yourself a legend
BORN TOULOUSE !
Greetings from france !
no time toulouse
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂You french must really put always all things in your plate. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Johnny Thunders' vocals were always a glorious train wreck.
This is serious rock and roll. Good stuff. For real.
Honestly my all time favorite song that gets me in a good mood also fits the mood of skating.
Too bad! R'n'r was such an exciting thing from 73 to 77,when JT was half alive. His guitar playing, man, nobody played like him. For r'n'r, he was the best.
On another note, he had the most amazing hair. RIP Johnny.
Smack is whack. Love the sound of P90's.
Amazing Love This song on Skate 3 ( Born To lose )
“And I’m so sold” really gets me.
A mixture of pain and excess dying inside you.
Ladies and gentlemen please welcome Mr. Johnny Thunders.
Do not care what crazy people say. Now you are a star in the sky
wow johnny really didn't want to sing "lose"
Damn. Off his head. Still a legend!
😮
RIP walter lure
Way to go, dudes.
The great "Don't give a fuck!" attitude that good ol fashioned rock n roll lost.
...hell, we've lost all form of rock n roll nowadays!
Go Johnny ❤
wooooow Johnny,,,,,,,,,,, !!!!
I said hit it!!
Who are the 6 ABBA fans who didn't like this?
Well then just concentrate on his music, he's amazing.
Very cool
Fans argue is it loose or lose. The answer is BOTH. On the album its born to lose but changes at the end to loose.
Shades of Eddie Cochran!!
Bored in Toulouse
OOZiTen born too loose
Hahahahhah
Those ain't the Heartbreakers, it's just Johnny's solo band and Walter Lure
i need a double cut or an sg
@posthumanhero I thought we were discussing musicianship not production. However, if you think the mix on 'Raw Power' is more aesthetically pleasing than 'Funhouse' you really must have tin ears! I love the primeval stomp of the first album, but to say that the band had not vastly improved as musicians when they recorded their second is simply ridiculous. It was also Ron Ashetons' favourite piece of work.
you are wrong. the fact that it was mixed badly and its still great shows how great it is in terms of song writing and performance. etc.
😍
This man Johnny Thunders, he is close to death, from heroin I believe, while performing this song. My question is, why do his band mates treat such behavior as business as usual? Very sad, his friends should have looked out for him. He was very good.
+NELSON X His bandmates probably condoned his behavior and/or were probably just as loaded as him. Believe me, when it comes to addicts most don't get clean through intervention.
+Jake Brown Maybe he was a living legend and people expected him to be so doped up, but his band mates, no, Johnny is absolutely blasted while they look fine. So Johnny is dead. To bad, he was good.
+NELSON X Walter, Billy and Jerry were full blown heroin addicts in the mid 70's till the mid 80's, not as bad as Johnny they could function without it being noticeable. Many people tried to save Johnny, but unfortunately the wrong crowd cheered and egged him on and he then wore it as a badge of honor at time. He himself knew he had problems and would never suggest to kids etc to take heroin. Heroin takes your soul and willpower, i've never even smoked a cigarette in my life, never once thought about drugs, Johnny is one influence as a guitarist and also what not to do in life at the same time.
yeah, you would think maybe David Johansen or the other dudes from the new york dolls would've looked out for him
It's not that easy
@posthumanhero well that still leaves you about 3% of the rock and roll pie....try the teen idol section..oh I forgot Leif Garrett..oh well
side note: bass guitar tone is quite tasty
Jerry ?
Where was Jerry Nolan ?
Good old. Times❤..
Is that billy on bass?
Luigi
@@petercrowley41 oh ok thanks mr.crowley
baby i was born in toulouse
Mas loco que johnny no hay ohhh right
The more stoned you are, the less you really want to do, and so you end up playing half as much and not doing as many vocals as you should. This video is such a classic illustration. He just wants to get through it so he tosses it off...
Moron!
Never trust a junkie
Dope is the pits, real shame he went the way he did.
Baby, I was Vaughn Toulouse ....
Well hate to be a grammar nazi here, but the track name is Born To Lose. If there was any debate about loose the track would be Born Too Loose. But yea i agree the lyrics at the end change to 'born too loose". lol :)
Haha exactly what I thought but you said it
Did Tom Petty intentionally capitalize on the Heart breakers name???
Yes it’s the same band
Clink Roslam no these were those same great Heartbreakers. They were really great for both frontmen
@@JayyVee41 you're talking shit J. Not even remotely the same band
@@JayyVee41 No it's not lol
Johnny is suffering from earliest recorded US case of COVID. That or herion, can't really tell.
Junkpunk but i love this track ❤
Skate 3
High asf but still plays better than me lol
Drugs to lose
Nothing to say !!!
He didn’t even bother to tune his guitar by this point
Zombie Thunders
@posthumanhero I wasn't disputing that heroin stifled Thunders' talent, I was pointing out your examples were poor! Junkies can't make good music? check out Charlie Parker, Keith Levene or even the Chilli Peppers! 'Funhouse' is better than the first Stooges album, after Iggy and Scott Asheton had started using. Oh and btw Hawkwind also had a junkie frontman with Ron Tree. I don't think heroin use is cool, I just don't think dividing music into 'clean' or 'junkie' is worthwhile.
KE NOXO
1974. And ... whom. Defined. Yoj.rr. Very oIwn. Antics. Queen. John Ford. Couley. England. Dan. Oh. Oh. Oh. Styx.
Jesus, that bass. definitely not Billy
Luigi
NIHILIST
Hawkwind had at least two junkie drummers over the years, Biafra from the DKs tried it with Darby Crash; and as for citing the Moody Blues, Caravan and Earth Wind and Fire, maybe if they'd tried smack they might have made music that wasn't so bloody dull!
Shouldn't be hammered like that when people have paid their hard earned money to come and see you. Coke and heroin more important than his fans.
Pitt…people literally paid to see him in this state cuz that’s what he was known for. Half the crowd was probably on heroin and speed anyways.
the energy & spirit of this shit is super fucking cool.....but the drug usage is not. if you're able to come 1/10 close to this w/o using, consider yourself a legend
Poop
Scrub your balls then