Neither Mainoo or Garnacho are the finished article. They don’t deserve huge contracts, they deserve contracts which acknowledge their potential and importance to the team, a decent basic wage which gets boosted when certain performance goals are met. Paying Mainoo a huge salary at 19 years of age would be to learn nothing from what hasn’t worked in the past. He should get similar to Amad, that’s the new bench mark.
2 reasons 1. Wages-- High wages for low quality players means no one would pay a lot in transfer fee 2. United in general doesnt concentrate on making profit from sales as we dont buy a player thinking we will sell him in future. So when it doesnt work out, they try and make it easy for the deal to happen as quick as possible.
Joe Smith predicted a 1-1 win on penalties last week and also in the build up to the game predicted that due to the lack of VAR arsenal would get a penalty by Havertz diving. He truly is our Lord and Saviour ✝️
The biggest reason for our terrible business in selling players is that we were shopping for something that only us were willing to pay for, "Brand Value". We then tried to integrate this brand into a waffling football system, which made those "brands" look bad... and voila, we look shite, they look shite and we loose them for nothing. CR7 was the prime example of that. Its almost like we memorized our values without understanding them, the academy player galore is another example, we grew spoiled brats that were all "potential", paid them fortunes as if they were entitled to it, just to preserve our "kids miracle dream club" picture, without remembering that this was only possible because of the football success they produced. This is what Ralph Ragnick called "A surgery at the open heart"
For example Mainoo reportedly wants 200k per week after just 1 season of senior Football because he sees people around earning crazy money sitting on the bench. If you look at Saka played for Arsenal for 5 years on 70k a year and only last year he was rewarded with £250k a year
@@isaacnewton3514 Mainoo wants 200k ACCORDING TO WHOM? It’s a tabloid headline, not a reality. We need to stop being led by the nose by ABU media. I have no idea what Mainoo’s agent is asking for, and surely you don’t either. It’s almost certain that Mainoo wants (and deserves) a contract better than his first pro contract (reportedly between 10-20k/w). As a starter/first team midfielder at his age and with his potential, any player would expect a better contract. But are there actually reputable sources saying he’s demanding 200k/w? (and 250k/w is too much for Saka, imo… his next contract, when he hits his actual prime, is going to have to be Rashford-range at Arsenal, and are they or anyone else going to have that kind of money a couple years down the road?)
@@davidgriffith1552you think 250k is too much for Saka? Rashford is on 325k, Sancho is on 200k and you think 250k is too much for Arsenal’s best player that actually performs every season?
@ Yep, think both salaries are too high. It just ratchets up the whole salary structure across the club and leads to unsustainable finances. It’s happened just about everywhere that doesn’t have state ownership (ie, PSG and City, expect the same at Newcastle). It’s clear we can’t afford the wages of Casemiro and Rashford, and we have higher revenue than Arsenal.
@@davidgriffith1552I agree with you, but in today’s market I think £250k for Saka is fair for what he brings to the club. Palmer on £250k at Chelsea is also fair for what he brings to Chelsea.
During Ten Hag's tenure, Licha was the spine of the team, watching us without him was torture. In Amorim's system, he's even more integral to how we want to play; he is the single best ball playing defender in the world. Not to forget that he's now over/underlapping and causing all sorts of problems upfront. Saying he's worth 40-50m pales his footballing ability, but I see your point.
To play devils advocate, he had a really good first season, then was injured for the second. He was poor last season. He has been found out a few times this season with his height in the box. Granted, he has had a few good games recently but it shouldn't mask over the fact that he isn't near the levels of his first season. If we can upgrade, we should. If we can't then we don't.
It's all about wages. We're so stupid offering such extortionate and unnecessary wages to players that other club's would never match. We'd have no problem selling Rashford for £50m even on current form if he was £200k a week instead of £325k. Antony is the worst of the lot. Went from £20k a week at Ajax straight to £200k at Utd!! Nevermind selling him at a loss we literally can't even give him away to another club in Europe now because nobody's stupid enough to cover those wages. We need to start being ruthless and selling players like Garnacho who obviously hold value but don't fit the manager's plans, instead of offering him wages that will quickly grow to unmatchable amounts. £50m plus a buyback and sell on clause would be the best piece of business we've done in a long time
Not sure Dalot is necessarily a square peg in a round hole, he's just been made to play on the wrong side for the whole season. Give him a chance at RWB before you write him off
Morning reds. As well as multiple inept & inaccurate appraisals of the squad over the years, there's then been a total lack of actual squad planning, if defined as detailed plans & expectations for each position (which includes the academy) for no less than the next 2 transfer windows. We started to see it in EtH's time and from what we heard OGS tried (eg Haaland) but was shut down. These two problems compound in the light of PSR and poor wage management. So although it's going to be very difficult to drag us out of the hole we're in, I believe in Amorim as a coach & tactician, his squad planning at Sporting was impressive on a smaller budget. It will be tough but it can be done!
Good analysis of the situation and i agree with you, Amorim is the man to do this and there is absolutely no reason why we can't snatch players below 30mil which will become starters and world beaters once joining. All the stars start somewhere, we just have to be more astute with the acquisitions and more importantly the timing of them...we could have had caicedo and the CM at Real (forgot his name!) both for under 20 mil combined under Ralf!! So it's possible, and hopefully the new team of execs will do this. I like our youth too, I think we have maybe 3 or 4 potential first teamers on their way over the next 2 to 3 years. It seems hard right now, but I think we will be there as you say 2 maybe 3 windows and Amorim will have his set up. I'm actually excited about united for the first time in over a decade.
Yeh, I think we've always tried to just plug up the squad, rather than having a plan. Every manager has come in for a "rebuild", but then they've all had to make CL, while rebuilding. It's created a culture of needing time, while not having time, so it's almost just put plasters over things and the wheels inevitably come off, because really they aren't the right signings. Casemiro is a prime example of that, we just needed a body. He came in, was excellent, then his legs go
The reason we are bad at selling is we buy the finished product that ends up not being good enough, we gove them astronomical wages that no one else will pay and we also keep players for too long just incase they still come good
I will keep saying this, but, we need to mirror what chelsea have done with their wages. Lower Base wage and heavily incentivezed based on performances. Players come here for a pay day and lose their hunger.
Players given too much money and then either don’t want to move or clubs who want to buy them can’t afford to pay the type of wages they are on. Giving long expensive contracts to maintain market value only works if players are playing consistently well, improving as players and don’t have bad injury records
The only thing we’ve got right transfer wise recently is Kovar with the buyback clause. Hasn’t played for Dortmund (2 games in a year and a half) and we should get him back for less than the €8.5m we sold him for. As for who to lose and get some money: Rashford, Zirkzee and Casemiro. I think Dalot will stay. Bought for just £19m, not on high wages, 25 years old, tall, could be a centre back if need be or develop into the wing back Amorim wants. Would cost more to replace and might get the same or worse. Also, I think we’ve got lucky so far with Mazraoui and injuries. One injury away from not having a right wing back where Dalot could do a job.
United continously undervalue their players. Sold Scott McTominay, an experienced and accomplished midfielder, for 26mill to Napoli and he's now tearing it up in serie A. Liverpool are looking for 30 mill for 19 year old Ben Doak who's barely played for them! And they'll probably get close to it too!
Wages plays a big part. I reckon McT was +£200k a week. We take them wages for granted but actually most Italian teams have their players below £200k. While silly United hand £200k contracts out for nothing
Do you honestly think Garnacho will ever be worth 70 million? Part of why we’ve been “mugs” for the last 15 years is because we can’t let go of players at the proper time.
@@fathi573he’s 19 year old and has played a lot of games in his career already if it was the other way round Napoli would try to sell him for £90mil🤣🤣🤣
No! This is the exact kind of thinking that has leaves us with players like Rashford and Lingard leaving for nothing or next to nothing while paying them extortionate wages. He doesn't suit us, will be v difficult for him to fit this system, appears to have some attitude issue, obvs wants to leave at some point, so sell him for £50m with a buy back/sell on clause and be done with it. That's what proper decisive clubs do
I like Onana but his mistakes are too many. The block of bad games is a potential 15points in one competition or another. I think Amorim is going to want someone he can trust as his job may be in danger if he suffers the same start he had next season.
Veron is one that sticks in my mind that we bought and sold for half what we paid. Poborsk, and Forlan both the same . The values back then obviously less now, but it was big money then. Point is we have been historically bad, but back then we were winning and making more money than anyone, so it wasn’t a problem.
First thing they got to decide and make a commitment to a what playing style we are going to build on with whatever manager or coach whatever they call it. Then, assess the current players to see if they can pay this style and move on the ones that can't. Recruit players that can and the coach/ manager want.
PREACH on Hojlund, Jay. Its NOT all on bad service. He spends way too much time wrestling with the centre half and is rarely seen in the box when the wingers are actually in the area looking for a pass when the shot isnt on or to square it in the rare cases.
The problem for United is that we don't look great in the shop window. If the team is playing badly, the players in that team aren't necessarily worth much to other teams. If Amorim gets us playing as I hope and believe he will we will get more value for players.
With so many of these players we’ve mismanaged, there is also the fact they almost exclusively say on the bench for 18-24 months being paid over £100000 a week. That’s 7-10 million in wages per player wasted also.
This was a cracking video. I’ve always been raging about the lack of money for our players or just letting them go for free. Never knew about the comparisons to other Prem clubs. Great work lads. Up the Reds🇾🇪
Here’s the thing tho.: we signed people, payed the contract we promised them instead of selling them on.. why does that hurt us? No other business is it a negative to pay the people the contracts you signed them for
I do worry about Mainoo a little bit. He's played so well that his agent is probably pushing for big money. But, he had injury issues when he was in the youth teams and has already been out multiple times with injury since he's been in the 1st team. Hope he grows out of that but it's a worry.
11:27 The fact that you think letting Ander Herrera go wasn't the end of the world explains why our recruitment has been so rubbish. Pogba played his best football with Matic and Herrera behind him. Ole at the wheel fell off soon after Herrera got injured. Our form has never been that good since
It’s not just him. It’s former players turned pundits like Neville that talked down Herrera as someone that just runs about and was easy to replace. Yet Scott did that basically in the team and couldn’t give Pogba or the back four adequate protection in any system. Letting any of these guys go without a free is a cardinal sin. The wages wasted on them on top makes it even worse.
Solskjaer’s tenure is looking better and better as the years go by. Dan James was great business, plus we were maybe one player off challenging for the biggest trophies. Imagine if we had ugarte back then? It’s a shame we got Ronaldo instead of the midfielder we needed
Going through the list of who can we sell... there is literally noone who would actually garner offers that we are in a position to sell because of our complete lack of depth and planning Malacia is the perfect example, we could and probably should sell him but then its Maz and Dalot playing wing back every game for the rest of the season
When Ashworth was coming in we heard that United higher-ups were going to decide the style of play, bring in a manager to suit that style and bring in players to suit that. Is Amorim style of play going to be what United plays going forward? Otherwise we'll be in the same boat if in 3-4 years Amorim isn't challenging for the league and they change managers.
Injuries have been a big issue towards this, but so have the extortionate wages and the culture of being scared to let players go, incase they do well elsewhere. I'm honestly amazed we've made as much as we have
Our biggest problem was bringing people in who I guess we had to convince to actually get it over the line as they'd have had better options/clubs that could offer European football etc. I think that meant we would give them these stupidly inflated wages which makes them next to impossible to shift afterwards. Realistically only Barcelona/Real or Saudi can offer some of our players more money. That mismanagement for so long has left is with a ridiculously expensive squad that just isn't great.
Utd have been underperforming for the last 10 years. So what do you expect players who played in and under performing team to be worth? Especially when you added to the mix the fact that the majority are on high wages. You keep saying how City are able to sell players . Well, that’s because everybody wants players who are performing well. It’s not complicated.
"If you want to take care of the darkside of your moon..." - The proud look of Joe on that one liner is classic. Jay is like a proud father right now 😂
Garnacho plus cash for Osimhen makes sense. Evans, Lindelof and Eriksen are leaving in the Summer, hopefully we can move Casemiro and Anthony on. Jury is out on the rest tbh.
As much as I think Kobbie could be a great, he is still way off from that at the moment, and if he won’t budge on what he wants then maybe for the future of the club in terms of wage structure, it would be best to let him go. It would have to be for a Man Utd record though as it would hurt to see him go.
The problem is, if the team fails, it reflects badly on the player, and value plummets. Nobody wants to spend big on failures, which is what United's players have been. On the other hand, City sell high because even their fringe players contribute towards winning trophies, and are therefore perceived as good investments.
Top clubs shouldn’t bring in a lot in transfers if things are going well. Big fees come from stars leaving when clubs don’t want them to leave, which is a sign of a small club (eg Spurs and Chelsea). Apart from a few cases, Lingard and maybe Pogba, United’s problems have been mistakes when buying. Selling isn’t the issue.
Guys remember, we are royally screwed because of the past businesses, we are terribly hamstrung with players on high wages and long contracts. If we need to recover fast, we need to be brave and sell one or two of our sellable assets. Bruno should be sold. So too, Diallo and Garnacho. Get 150-175m there. Atleast frees us PSR wise
I dearly love the Manscaped segments, they are the only paid placements I can actually stand to listen to lol. HOWEVER, you two ham it up so much that it’s enjoyable, but are you at all worried that Manscaped might call and be like “look here, you twats, half of our paid placements sound like you’re making fun of our product!” I’m genuinely curious: how do these things work? Are they ok with you all ad-libbing these amazingly hilarious “promotions?”
They probably only work on a commission base only so whatever way you get your audience to buy the product works for them. If people don't use the code, Stretford Paddock doesn't get paid.
I think a lot of players could be sold if they got good values. Id sell Onana and Martinez if we got good money for them and I like those players. I agree with Jay though that Martinez would likely provide more value to the team, Id value him personally at 60m at least and I dont think theres a team that would pay that. I really like Dalot as well, but I would sell him for 40-50m. I would definitely sell Mount, its just not worked and it hasnt even been his fault, Amorim likes him but we've not even seen him. Antony get rid lol. Hojlund is a tough one because hes of such a rare profile but hes also been very poor for a while now, perhaps he needs a loan or something idk. Zirkzee is one that I like but I dont think he fits our system perfectly, I would take 30m for him. Its unfortunate because I think Zirkzee could be developed into a top player. Bruno is one of the players that I cannot conceive of a replacement that would be anywhere equivalent to the value you'd get for him. He is the glue of our club Im convinced. Carried us for multiple seasons now. Mainoo isnt at that level but I love the kid and the sky is the limit, you'd only sell him for silly money (like 80+ mil). Same as Amad and Yoro. I would put De Ligt and Mazraoui in this category too, maybe you could get a fee for them but Im convinced they provide more value to the team. Garnacho is borderline for me because I love the kid, but I would definitely take 60+ mil for him. Its just unfortunate that Garnacho gets put on the chopping block because of PSR issues, even though he doesnt fit our system perfectly I think hes a player you would normally love to keep. The only issue with any of these is signing a player that is equivalent or better for less money, a good recruitment team could do that but we have no track record of that as of yet.
When Amorim starts bringing the youth players through, we can start shipping the players out that aren't good enough. Hopefully that's something he can do after a pre-season.
Personally i'm looking forward to the Athletic article the week the Glazers finally leave Manchester United whenever that may be, I can only imagine there will be details in there about their time at the club that would blow your mind as to the ineptitude.
80 Mill take it if not have him as an impact player of the Bench and increase his stock. Be patient and get the right deal. We need a good bench as well as first 11
We need to fire sale what's there, and just get whatever money we can. Lindelof, Heaton, Onana, Evans, Eriksen, Shaw, Malacia, Antony etc. All won't go in one window, but we need to try to do as many of those as we can. I'd promote Collyer and Ammass from the 21's as cover. We need to prioritise both WB roles. And then get a CF in. I've been banging the drum about Jonathan David for years now. he won't sign a new deal at Lille, someone will get him this Jan for peanuts.
Garnacho is playing his 2nd full season guys. We need to give him time to get used to this system. He looks like a nice kid who is willing to work and improve. I would rather sell Højlund and keep Garnacho. I understand academy players contribute towards PSR but we cannot disrespect academy prospects like that. With Marcus and Garna gone, we will have only Mainoo from our academy left.
Apart from McTominay which is pure profit, the only signing we've made profit is Dan James since 2009. As bad as we are in buying players, we're worse in selling players. Pogba we could have sold in 2019 along with Mata and Matic but we let them run out their contracts, Lukaku we barely broke even with Inter, Di Maria is a loss after we sold him for £45 million after paying £60 million for his services, Lingard we could have sold to fund a CDM under Ole but not only we let walk away for nothing we hardly used him and don't get me started on the overpayment on players like Maguire, Antony, Wan-Bissaka, Mount and Hojlund because we sure as hell ain't making half the money we paid when we move them on. We bought shirt sellers and bang average dross that don't fit the system and because of the obscene contracts we gave them we made it hard to move them on because no clubs will ever pay half of what they on. Years of shocking squad building and recruitment is why we are here today in 14th place.
Since 2009?! You know Ronaldo was sold in 2009? I assume you mean 2019. In which case, Smalling, Pereira, Garner, Chong, Elanga, and Dean Henderson were all sold for profit too. Lukaku also technically counted as a PSR profit as he was 2 years into a 5 year contract.
Fingers crossed INEOS will do better now. The last window was very successful, so I hope this continues. Managed correctly, we should have the biggest spending budget for players. I'm a bit worried by how tight INEOS have tightened our shoelaces going forward. However, we are hopefully getting a new stadium in 5 years, so we have to expect some sacrifices might have to be made.
I’ll be sad to see Rashford go, but it is what it is. To see the likes of Mainoo or Garnacho leave would be insane, and a detriment to the club; no matter the cost. Sure, make the coffers look better on paper, but lose identity in the process? Not for me.
I like Rasmus, its true service to him is non existent....but he needs to do more... his movement is a problem....he stays too central, he doesn't come for the ball.. his hold up play is not great.. his first touch is inconsistent... However he is useful in the box, two footed...comes alive in front of goal... We need a more experienced striker like an Osimhen, Gyokeres to be first choice & give Rasmus time out to work on his game...some bench time. He is still young so he deserves time.
Also one more quick thing: you say about Garnacho "he has made some questionable decisions but what kid at 19 - 22 hasn't" I don't know did Toni Kroos? Did Modric? Did KdB? Study the reverse and maybe you'll find that most reliable elite players haven´t done stupid shit when they were young or while playing football.
@ThirdEye... apologies, autocorrect on his first name. Zlatan is the perfect example, he ran his contract out then signed on big wages somewhere else. No transfer fee was a huge bargaining chip for him to justify getting high wages. Assisting in busting clubs wage structures. Genius for the player. Just another variable in how United screwed themselves over the last ten years.
In the last 10 years, we've been absolutely dreadful at transfers. Inexplicably incompetent, inexcusably wasteful, and slow. This has resulted in problems with PSR. But if we're patient and we wait for GLAZEOS to get to grips with PSR, we have a dogs chance to get back to a level where we are just disappointing and slow, instead of being incompetent, wasteful and slow. So that's something to look forward to... obviously, it won't happen "overnight" (as in "Ratcliffe can't change things overnight," which GLAZEOS fans say, 12 months after the official takeover concluded).
Part of the problem is also over valuation of players. Not just financially but also on perceived reputation. Paul Pogba would not have gotten into most top teams. He had never the mental attributes for that.
We sell academy players for 20k fucksake liverpool sold brewster for 20million or whatever it was but yet hannibal mejbri goes for 2mill we let academy players leave for nothing compared to other clubs we are terrible
Liverpool have been very successful for a number of seasons and still I guess their youth players are on less than ours. Two reasons why they get more for the youth. Same for City (also dodgy dealings perhaps).
I don't see improvement from Garnacho while we're playing this system. And there's been some daft off the field decisions. If we can £65m+ and get another number 10 for that price, I'd sell him.
We need PSR because we need to spend more than 250m every summer to rebuild It’s not a lack of finances, it’s trying to speed run it when it isn’t necessary.
Knowing what we know about PSR now. How can you say we sold Di Maria and Lukaku at a loss? Thats perfect PSR business now. It’s like complaining right now we sold Antony for £50m.
PSR didn't exist in 2014, but even if it did, Di Maria's book value in 2015 would have been £48 million (£60m amortised over 5 years, 1 year into the contract) and was sold for £44 million. That is a PSR loss of £4m
@martinp5184 would him or diallo have been worse than 90m on Antony? If it was him or nothing then as soon as it went to that price we should have just said no and stuck with what we had
Apart from maybe Real Madrid if you leave United you’re going to lesser team in prestige etc. You’re selling players because they’re on the way down for whatever reason so their value isnt there. Letting people go for free though is ridiculous so at least get something for them
I am not keen on selling players like Garnacho, Mainoo and it could even become Amad because Amorins 3-4-2-1 doesn't suit them. They are young and have great potential, and have shown they can do great things which is why clubs want them. They shouldn't have to go because the has beens we have signed for too much have failed. Also if Amorin is such a good manager he will make a system that works for the players he has. A good manager in all professions uses the skills of his staff to get the required results, I am sure that we have all met the poor manager who moans the reason everything doesn't work is because of his staff, and we all know that is wrong. United have the players we have, If Amorin wants to change the way we play he should evolve the squad and get rid of players that have never performed or are in the decline first, getting the money from these transfers is Ineos problem, just selling talented youngster shows that United's issue isn't the players is the coaches and the board members.
This is normal for the January window. Most activity usually happens near the end of the window. I'd love to see us bring 1 or 2 players in. A left wing back and a striker who scores goals. I actually think that's all we really need for the 1st team. I'm happy with our defence, but I'd swap Martinez with Yoro and then put Martinez alongside Ugarte. That's a solid defence.
Should be sold this window 1) Anthony (free; as long as no wages) 2) Malacia; bring Alvaro home (free again; as long as we dont pay his wages) 3) Rasmus Hojlund £40m 4) Bayindir £10m Eots 1) Christian 😢❤ 2) Lindelof 3) Mount £35m Sold at the right price (in brackets) 1) Mainoo £200m 2) Rashford £150m 3) Garnacho £150m 4) Casemiro £30m 5) Dalot £40m
Its funny how u only mention Pogba, Lukaku & Di'Maria but non of the waist space English signings like Shaw for 30 mill 11 years ago, Maguire 80 mill, Mount, 60 mill,
We don't sell because we buy shit. Too many players think they are worth £75-£100 million when in reality we have bought £1-£2 million players in the past and won stuff
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@@FullTimeDevils more please 😂
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To coin the late great Rik Mayall: Merry Christmas Dennis Norden.
Neither Mainoo or Garnacho are the finished article. They don’t deserve huge contracts, they deserve contracts which acknowledge their potential and importance to the team, a decent basic wage which gets boosted when certain performance goals are met. Paying Mainoo a huge salary at 19 years of age would be to learn nothing from what hasn’t worked in the past. He should get similar to Amad, that’s the new bench mark.
Well said, this makes a lot of sense. Giving huge contracts to players that are too young is a really bad idea, Sancho is a prime example.
100% mate. If that’s not to his liking then he should be shown the door. We need to learn
I hope I can one day have the level of enthusiasm for anything that Jay has for The Performance Package 5.0 ULTRA’s skinsafe technology
Anyone else holding out for the lawnmower 10.0?? 🚜
2 reasons
1. Wages-- High wages for low quality players means no one would pay a lot in transfer fee
2. United in general doesnt concentrate on making profit from sales as we dont buy a player thinking we will sell him in future. So when it doesnt work out, they try and make it easy for the deal to happen as quick as possible.
Joe Smith predicted a 1-1 win on penalties last week and also in the build up to the game predicted that due to the lack of VAR arsenal would get a penalty by Havertz diving. He truly is our Lord and Saviour ✝️
The biggest reason for our terrible business in selling players is that we were shopping for something that only us were willing to pay for, "Brand Value". We then tried to integrate this brand into a waffling football system, which made those "brands" look bad... and voila, we look shite, they look shite and we loose them for nothing. CR7 was the prime example of that. Its almost like we memorized our values without understanding them, the academy player galore is another example, we grew spoiled brats that were all "potential", paid them fortunes as if they were entitled to it, just to preserve our "kids miracle dream club" picture, without remembering that this was only possible because of the football success they produced. This is what Ralph Ragnick called "A surgery at the open heart"
For example Mainoo reportedly wants 200k per week after just 1 season of senior Football because he sees people around earning crazy money sitting on the bench. If you look at Saka played for Arsenal for 5 years on 70k a year and only last year he was rewarded with £250k a year
@@isaacnewton3514 Mainoo wants 200k ACCORDING TO WHOM? It’s a tabloid headline, not a reality. We need to stop being led by the nose by ABU media. I have no idea what Mainoo’s agent is asking for, and surely you don’t either. It’s almost certain that Mainoo wants (and deserves) a contract better than his first pro contract (reportedly between 10-20k/w). As a starter/first team midfielder at his age and with his potential, any player would expect a better contract. But are there actually reputable sources saying he’s demanding 200k/w? (and 250k/w is too much for Saka, imo… his next contract, when he hits his actual prime, is going to have to be Rashford-range at Arsenal, and are they or anyone else going to have that kind of money a couple years down the road?)
@@davidgriffith1552you think 250k is too much for Saka? Rashford is on 325k, Sancho is on 200k and you think 250k is too much for Arsenal’s best player that actually performs every season?
@ Yep, think both salaries are too high. It just ratchets up the whole salary structure across the club and leads to unsustainable finances. It’s happened just about everywhere that doesn’t have state ownership (ie, PSG and City, expect the same at Newcastle). It’s clear we can’t afford the wages of Casemiro and Rashford, and we have higher revenue than Arsenal.
@@davidgriffith1552I agree with you, but in today’s market I think £250k for Saka is fair for what he brings to the club. Palmer on £250k at Chelsea is also fair for what he brings to Chelsea.
During Ten Hag's tenure, Licha was the spine of the team, watching us without him was torture. In Amorim's system, he's even more integral to how we want to play; he is the single best ball playing defender in the world. Not to forget that he's now over/underlapping and causing all sorts of problems upfront. Saying he's worth 40-50m pales his footballing ability, but I see your point.
Our most important player
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@ronnoc9329the ETH and Lichs fans are laughable. Worst manager ever. £616m spent and little to show for it
To play devils advocate, he had a really good first season, then was injured for the second. He was poor last season. He has been found out a few times this season with his height in the box. Granted, he has had a few good games recently but it shouldn't mask over the fact that he isn't near the levels of his first season. If we can upgrade, we should. If we can't then we don't.
It's all about wages. We're so stupid offering such extortionate and unnecessary wages to players that other club's would never match. We'd have no problem selling Rashford for £50m even on current form if he was £200k a week instead of £325k.
Antony is the worst of the lot. Went from £20k a week at Ajax straight to £200k at Utd!! Nevermind selling him at a loss we literally can't even give him away to another club in Europe now because nobody's stupid enough to cover those wages.
We need to start being ruthless and selling players like Garnacho who obviously hold value but don't fit the manager's plans, instead of offering him wages that will quickly grow to unmatchable amounts. £50m plus a buyback and sell on clause would be the best piece of business we've done in a long time
Agree. Mainoo should not be given a penny over 100k, in line with Amad
Correct, otherwise you can kerp him and as he wants to move, you’ll have a unhappy broken career player in the house!
Couldn't agree more. Woodward and Arnold's moronic contracts effectively made average, injury prone players worthless and unsellable
Not sure Dalot is necessarily a square peg in a round hole, he's just been made to play on the wrong side for the whole season. Give him a chance at RWB before you write him off
Playing on the wrong side or out of position is the definition of square peg in a round hole
@@mattparker368if we had a left wing back he’d be on the right side. Would be much better there
@nolhman123 100% agree. Not sure why Amorim hasn't switched him and Maz around
Agreed. And not to forget that he is always available. We cant say that for most of our other fullbacks.
I've watched dalot closely over the years..He has no football intelligence. Baffles me how he's a professional football player imo
Morning reds. As well as multiple inept & inaccurate appraisals of the squad over the years, there's then been a total lack of actual squad planning, if defined as detailed plans & expectations for each position (which includes the academy) for no less than the next 2 transfer windows.
We started to see it in EtH's time and from what we heard OGS tried (eg Haaland) but was shut down. These two problems compound in the light of PSR and poor wage management. So although it's going to be very difficult to drag us out of the hole we're in, I believe in Amorim as a coach & tactician, his squad planning at Sporting was impressive on a smaller budget. It will be tough but it can be done!
Good analysis of the situation and i agree with you, Amorim is the man to do this and there is absolutely no reason why we can't snatch players below 30mil which will become starters and world beaters once joining.
All the stars start somewhere, we just have to be more astute with the acquisitions and more importantly the timing of them...we could have had caicedo and the CM at Real (forgot his name!) both for under 20 mil combined under Ralf!! So it's possible, and hopefully the new team of execs will do this. I like our youth too, I think we have maybe 3 or 4 potential first teamers on their way over the next 2 to 3 years. It seems hard right now, but I think we will be there as you say 2 maybe 3 windows and Amorim will have his set up. I'm actually excited about united for the first time in over a decade.
Yeh, I think we've always tried to just plug up the squad, rather than having a plan. Every manager has come in for a "rebuild", but then they've all had to make CL, while rebuilding. It's created a culture of needing time, while not having time, so it's almost just put plasters over things and the wheels inevitably come off, because really they aren't the right signings.
Casemiro is a prime example of that, we just needed a body. He came in, was excellent, then his legs go
The reason we are bad at selling is we buy the finished product that ends up not being good enough, we gove them astronomical wages that no one else will pay and we also keep players for too long just incase they still come good
Bang on..literally a child could have done a better job than some of our execs 😂
I will keep saying this, but, we need to mirror what chelsea have done with their wages. Lower Base wage and heavily incentivezed based on performances. Players come here for a pay day and lose their hunger.
@ definitely seems like we are doing that with rashford and Casemiro out of the team
@l1nx258 100%. It's imperative we move to that type of wage structure, if not done already.
Players given too much money and then either don’t want to move or clubs who want to buy them can’t afford to pay the type of wages they are on. Giving long expensive contracts to maintain market value only works if players are playing consistently well, improving as players and don’t have bad injury records
The only thing we’ve got right transfer wise recently is Kovar with the buyback clause. Hasn’t played for Dortmund (2 games in a year and a half) and we should get him back for less than the €8.5m we sold him for.
As for who to lose and get some money: Rashford, Zirkzee and Casemiro. I think Dalot will stay. Bought for just £19m, not on high wages, 25 years old, tall, could be a centre back if need be or develop into the wing back Amorim wants. Would cost more to replace and might get the same or worse. Also, I think we’ve got lucky so far with Mazraoui and injuries. One injury away from not having a right wing back where Dalot could do a job.
United continously undervalue their players. Sold Scott McTominay, an experienced and accomplished midfielder, for 26mill to Napoli and he's now tearing it up in serie A. Liverpool are looking for 30 mill for 19 year old Ben Doak who's barely played for them! And they'll probably get close to it too!
Jealous or envious? 🤫
Wages plays a big part. I reckon McT was +£200k a week. We take them wages for granted but actually most Italian teams have their players below £200k. While silly United hand £200k contracts out for nothing
Hi guys.
Hope you had a good birthday Jay.
thanks bro!
The only way I’m selling Garnacho is if napoli offer £70mil or £25mil with Osimhen 👍we need to stop being mugs …
Do you honestly think Garnacho will ever be worth 70 million? Part of why we’ve been “mugs” for the last 15 years is because we can’t let go of players at the proper time.
Yeh either big money up front, big money from add ons or just keep him. People moan, but he's got huge potential
You aren't selling him though. It's nothing to do with you. Unless you work for utd now... 😂
@@fathi573he’s 19 year old and has played a lot of games in his career already if it was the other way round Napoli would try to sell him for £90mil🤣🤣🤣
@@gray100 think he's probably aware of that mate 😂
Even considering getting rid of Garnacho is a joke! He's young enough to change and adapt to the new system, he just needs time!
I hope he can be great AT THIS CLUB...we have all seen talented teenagers power onto the scene only to disappear a couple of years later
Sell him. Tough decisions have to be made to refresh the team after years of poor buys.
Yeah and it's working two games in a row, he's had an impact
No! This is the exact kind of thinking that has leaves us with players like Rashford and Lingard leaving for nothing or next to nothing while paying them extortionate wages. He doesn't suit us, will be v difficult for him to fit this system, appears to have some attitude issue, obvs wants to leave at some point, so sell him for £50m with a buy back/sell on clause and be done with it. That's what proper decisive clubs do
They would not be looking to sell him if the player has not indicated his willingness to leave.
Buying high & selling low has never been a winning formula in business. It was always going to catch up with the club, regardless of size.
Keep unhappy players with high wages in the squad don’t serm a good idea as well… he wants to move!
I like Onana but his mistakes are too many. The block of bad games is a potential 15points in one competition or another. I think Amorim is going to want someone he can trust as his job may be in danger if he suffers the same start he had next season.
Morning Jay & Joe.
Veron is one that sticks in my mind that we bought and sold for half what we paid. Poborsk, and Forlan both the same . The values back then obviously less now, but it was big money then. Point is we have been historically bad, but back then we were winning and making more money than anyone, so it wasn’t a problem.
Our primary problem in the market is our salary.. we pay too much & no club can afford to match pay & pay transfer fee
First thing they got to decide and make a commitment to a what playing style we are going to build on with whatever manager or coach whatever they call it. Then, assess the current players to see if they can pay this style and move on the ones that can't. Recruit players that can and the coach/ manager want.
Are some of the player sales by Chelsea and City a bit sketchy though?
PREACH on Hojlund, Jay. Its NOT all on bad service. He spends way too much time wrestling with the centre half and is rarely seen in the box when the wingers are actually in the area looking for a pass when the shot isnt on or to square it in the rare cases.
The problem for United is that we don't look great in the shop window. If the team is playing badly, the players in that team aren't necessarily worth much to other teams. If Amorim gets us playing as I hope and believe he will we will get more value for players.
I feel like this exact same video has been posted 10 times on this channel in the last few years
It is. They just do it for the sponsorships. No variety with these blokes.
It is but it's quite an important topic. In order for United to improve, we need to get rid of first team players. The question is who and how
With so many of these players we’ve mismanaged, there is also the fact they almost exclusively say on the bench for 18-24 months being paid over £100000 a week. That’s 7-10 million in wages per player wasted also.
This was a cracking video. I’ve always been raging about the lack of money for our players or just letting them go for free. Never knew about the comparisons to other Prem clubs. Great work lads. Up the Reds🇾🇪
Here’s the thing tho.: we signed people, payed the contract we promised them instead of selling them on.. why does that hurt us? No other business is it a negative to pay the people the contracts you signed them for
did you really say we might get £35m for mount???
He's got loan written all over him hasn't he? 😂
Think they missed a decimal point mate lol
I do worry about Mainoo a little bit. He's played so well that his agent is probably pushing for big money. But, he had injury issues when he was in the youth teams and has already been out multiple times with injury since he's been in the 1st team. Hope he grows out of that but it's a worry.
11:27 The fact that you think letting Ander Herrera go wasn't the end of the world explains why our recruitment has been so rubbish. Pogba played his best football with Matic and Herrera behind him. Ole at the wheel fell off soon after Herrera got injured. Our form has never been that good since
It’s not just him. It’s former players turned pundits like Neville that talked down Herrera as someone that just runs about and was easy to replace. Yet Scott did that basically in the team and couldn’t give Pogba or the back four adequate protection in any system. Letting any of these guys go without a free is a cardinal sin. The wages wasted on them on top makes it even worse.
Solskjaer’s tenure is looking better and better as the years go by. Dan James was great business, plus we were maybe one player off challenging for the biggest trophies. Imagine if we had ugarte back then? It’s a shame we got Ronaldo instead of the midfielder we needed
Going through the list of who can we sell... there is literally noone who would actually garner offers that we are in a position to sell because of our complete lack of depth and planning
Malacia is the perfect example, we could and probably should sell him but then its Maz and Dalot playing wing back every game for the rest of the season
When Ashworth was coming in we heard that United higher-ups were going to decide the style of play, bring in a manager to suit that style and bring in players to suit that. Is Amorim style of play going to be what United plays going forward? Otherwise we'll be in the same boat if in 3-4 years Amorim isn't challenging for the league and they change managers.
Injuries have been a big issue towards this, but so have the extortionate wages and the culture of being scared to let players go, incase they do well elsewhere. I'm honestly amazed we've made as much as we have
Our biggest problem was bringing people in who I guess we had to convince to actually get it over the line as they'd have had better options/clubs that could offer European football etc. I think that meant we would give them these stupidly inflated wages which makes them next to impossible to shift afterwards. Realistically only Barcelona/Real or Saudi can offer some of our players more money.
That mismanagement for so long has left is with a ridiculously expensive squad that just isn't great.
Most work on a Jan transfer window doesn't happen till the last week and that's for all teams.
I love Kobbie, but on this note; we shouldn't be giving him 200k a week.
Mason mount and Antony for a combined 130m makes me sick.
Utd have been underperforming for the last 10 years. So what do you expect players who played in and under performing team to be worth? Especially when you added to the mix the fact that the majority are on high wages.
You keep saying how City are able to sell players . Well, that’s because everybody wants players who are performing well. It’s not complicated.
"If you want to take care of the darkside of your moon..." - The proud look of Joe on that one liner is classic. Jay is like a proud father right now 😂
Loaning players out and paying their wages thing is just insanity. Shows how badly the club is ran and how bad the wage structure is.
Garnacho plus cash for Osimhen makes sense. Evans, Lindelof and Eriksen are leaving in the Summer, hopefully we can move Casemiro and Anthony on. Jury is out on the rest tbh.
As much as I think Kobbie could be a great, he is still way off from that at the moment, and if he won’t budge on what he wants then maybe for the future of the club in terms of wage structure, it would be best to let him go. It would have to be for a Man Utd record though as it would hurt to see him go.
Happy birthday Jay 🎂
The problem is, if the team fails, it reflects badly on the player, and value plummets. Nobody wants to spend big on failures, which is what United's players have been. On the other hand, City sell high because even their fringe players contribute towards winning trophies, and are therefore perceived as good investments.
Top clubs shouldn’t bring in a lot in transfers if things are going well. Big fees come from stars leaving when clubs don’t want them to leave, which is a sign of a small club (eg Spurs and Chelsea). Apart from a few cases, Lingard and maybe Pogba, United’s problems have been mistakes when buying. Selling isn’t the issue.
Guys remember, we are royally screwed because of the past businesses, we are terribly hamstrung with players on high wages and long contracts. If we need to recover fast, we need to be brave and sell one or two of our sellable assets. Bruno should be sold. So too, Diallo and Garnacho. Get 150-175m there. Atleast frees us PSR wise
I dearly love the Manscaped segments, they are the only paid placements I can actually stand to listen to lol. HOWEVER, you two ham it up so much that it’s enjoyable, but are you at all worried that Manscaped might call and be like “look here, you twats, half of our paid placements sound like you’re making fun of our product!” I’m genuinely curious: how do these things work? Are they ok with you all ad-libbing these amazingly hilarious “promotions?”
They probably only work on a commission base only so whatever way you get your audience to buy the product works for them. If people don't use the code, Stretford Paddock doesn't get paid.
I think a lot of players could be sold if they got good values. Id sell Onana and Martinez if we got good money for them and I like those players. I agree with Jay though that Martinez would likely provide more value to the team, Id value him personally at 60m at least and I dont think theres a team that would pay that. I really like Dalot as well, but I would sell him for 40-50m. I would definitely sell Mount, its just not worked and it hasnt even been his fault, Amorim likes him but we've not even seen him. Antony get rid lol. Hojlund is a tough one because hes of such a rare profile but hes also been very poor for a while now, perhaps he needs a loan or something idk. Zirkzee is one that I like but I dont think he fits our system perfectly, I would take 30m for him. Its unfortunate because I think Zirkzee could be developed into a top player.
Bruno is one of the players that I cannot conceive of a replacement that would be anywhere equivalent to the value you'd get for him. He is the glue of our club Im convinced. Carried us for multiple seasons now. Mainoo isnt at that level but I love the kid and the sky is the limit, you'd only sell him for silly money (like 80+ mil). Same as Amad and Yoro. I would put De Ligt and Mazraoui in this category too, maybe you could get a fee for them but Im convinced they provide more value to the team. Garnacho is borderline for me because I love the kid, but I would definitely take 60+ mil for him. Its just unfortunate that Garnacho gets put on the chopping block because of PSR issues, even though he doesnt fit our system perfectly I think hes a player you would normally love to keep.
The only issue with any of these is signing a player that is equivalent or better for less money, a good recruitment team could do that but we have no track record of that as of yet.
When Amorim starts bringing the youth players through, we can start shipping the players out that aren't good enough. Hopefully that's something he can do after a pre-season.
Personally i'm looking forward to the Athletic article the week the Glazers finally leave Manchester United whenever that may be, I can only imagine there will be details in there about their time at the club that would blow your mind as to the ineptitude.
Even under SAF we never made money on players. The only players we made anything on was CR7 and maybe Becks.
80 Mill take it if not have him as an impact player of the Bench and increase his stock. Be patient and get the right deal. We need a good bench as well as first 11
We need to fire sale what's there, and just get whatever money we can. Lindelof, Heaton, Onana, Evans, Eriksen, Shaw, Malacia, Antony etc. All won't go in one window, but we need to try to do as many of those as we can. I'd promote Collyer and Ammass from the 21's as cover. We need to prioritise both WB roles. And then get a CF in. I've been banging the drum about Jonathan David for years now. he won't sign a new deal at Lille, someone will get him this Jan for peanuts.
Garnacho is playing his 2nd full season guys. We need to give him time to get used to this system. He looks like a nice kid who is willing to work and improve. I would rather sell Højlund and keep Garnacho. I understand academy players contribute towards PSR but we cannot disrespect academy prospects like that. With Marcus and Garna gone, we will have only Mainoo from our academy left.
Apart from McTominay which is pure profit, the only signing we've made profit is Dan James since 2009. As bad as we are in buying players, we're worse in selling players. Pogba we could have sold in 2019 along with Mata and Matic but we let them run out their contracts, Lukaku we barely broke even with Inter, Di Maria is a loss after we sold him for £45 million after paying £60 million for his services, Lingard we could have sold to fund a CDM under Ole but not only we let walk away for nothing we hardly used him and don't get me started on the overpayment on players like Maguire, Antony, Wan-Bissaka, Mount and Hojlund because we sure as hell ain't making half the money we paid when we move them on. We bought shirt sellers and bang average dross that don't fit the system and because of the obscene contracts we gave them we made it hard to move them on because no clubs will ever pay half of what they on. Years of shocking squad building and recruitment is why we are here today in 14th place.
Since 2009?! You know Ronaldo was sold in 2009? I assume you mean 2019. In which case, Smalling, Pereira, Garner, Chong, Elanga, and Dean Henderson were all sold for profit too. Lukaku also technically counted as a PSR profit as he was 2 years into a 5 year contract.
If we only sell players that have failed or are injury-prone -then we will not raise funds. That's just common sense.
Fingers crossed INEOS will do better now. The last window was very successful, so I hope this continues. Managed correctly, we should have the biggest spending budget for players. I'm a bit worried by how tight INEOS have tightened our shoelaces going forward. However, we are hopefully getting a new stadium in 5 years, so we have to expect some sacrifices might have to be made.
I’ll be sad to see Rashford go, but it is what it is. To see the likes of Mainoo or Garnacho leave would be insane, and a detriment to the club; no matter the cost. Sure, make the coffers look better on paper, but lose identity in the process? Not for me.
Maybe Garnacho has indicated his willingness to leave and believes a different system will suit his style of play better.
I like Rasmus, its true service to him is non existent....but he needs to do more... his movement is a problem....he stays too central, he doesn't come for the ball.. his hold up play is not great.. his first touch is inconsistent...
However he is useful in the box, two footed...comes alive in front of goal...
We need a more experienced striker like an Osimhen, Gyokeres to be first choice & give Rasmus time out to work on his game...some bench time.
He is still young so he deserves time.
Also one more quick thing: you say about Garnacho "he has made some questionable decisions but what kid at 19 - 22 hasn't" I don't know did Toni Kroos? Did Modric? Did KdB? Study the reverse and maybe you'll find that most reliable elite players haven´t done stupid shit when they were young or while playing football.
Kdb literally failed at Chelsea what are you talking about
I feel like Mina Raiola had a big part of taking top talent and having them run their contracts down to get huge salaries elsewhere
What??? Plus he was MinO Raiola
@ThirdEye... apologies, autocorrect on his first name. Zlatan is the perfect example, he ran his contract out then signed on big wages somewhere else. No transfer fee was a huge bargaining chip for him to justify getting high wages. Assisting in busting clubs wage structures. Genius for the player. Just another variable in how United screwed themselves over the last ten years.
In the last 10 years, we've been absolutely dreadful at transfers.
Inexplicably incompetent, inexcusably wasteful, and slow.
This has resulted in problems with PSR.
But if we're patient and we wait for GLAZEOS to get to grips with PSR, we have a dogs chance to get back to a level where we are just disappointing and slow, instead of being incompetent, wasteful and slow.
So that's something to look forward to... obviously, it won't happen "overnight" (as in "Ratcliffe can't change things overnight," which GLAZEOS fans say, 12 months after the official takeover concluded).
Part of the problem is also over valuation of players. Not just financially but also on perceived reputation. Paul Pogba would not have gotten into most top teams. He had never the mental attributes for that.
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@@larnx1692 False 😂
We sell academy players for 20k fucksake liverpool sold brewster for 20million or whatever it was but yet hannibal mejbri goes for 2mill we let academy players leave for nothing compared to other clubs we are terrible
Liverpool have been very successful for a number of seasons and still I guess their youth players are on less than ours. Two reasons why they get more for the youth. Same for City (also dodgy dealings perhaps).
@@FStarNumber320 million without the wages included is so much more than Hannibal on slightly more squad member wage?
Laughably more
Can’t sell Garnacho, especially if Rashford and Evan’s gone since we are threadbare on the home grown Quora
Paul Pogba Dela is really Unreal... Unreal an understatement the word is other..
Imagine selling Garnacho only to fund dividends for SJR or Glazers… imagine the furore
No dividends for the next few years. How are you lot here day in day or and still so poorly informed. It's embarrassing really..
@ genuinely not being serious with that comment. I though it was fairly obvious…
I don't see improvement from Garnacho while we're playing this system. And there's been some daft off the field decisions. If we can £65m+ and get another number 10 for that price, I'd sell him.
We need PSR because we need to spend more than 250m every summer to rebuild
It’s not a lack of finances, it’s trying to speed run it when it isn’t necessary.
Knowing what we know about PSR now. How can you say we sold Di Maria and Lukaku at a loss? Thats perfect PSR business now. It’s like complaining right now we sold Antony for £50m.
PSR didn't exist in 2014, but even if it did, Di Maria's book value in 2015 would have been £48 million (£60m amortised over 5 years, 1 year into the contract) and was sold for £44 million. That is a PSR loss of £4m
@ PSR didn’t exist but amortisation definitely did. It’s hardly ground breaking loses
1 word Glazers
We knew Victor Lindleof wasn’t good enough in 2017 about 3 months after he made his debut when he got bullied by Huddersfield ffs
Abit harsh mate
@ not really. He’s been getting bullied on a regular basis and here we are 8 years later
I was pissed off when we sold Elanga and look how well he is doing at Forrest now.
Thing is Elanga wasn’t doing what he’s currently doing for Forest for United. Who knows if he would of if he stayed but that’s the way things go mate
@martinp5184 would him or diallo have been worse than 90m on Antony? If it was him or nothing then as soon as it went to that price we should have just said no and stuck with what we had
Did y’all see that clip from Robbie AFTV saying Arsenal should put a bid in for Amad? lol that speaks volumes of Amad
Robbie knows nothing and he’s been spending too much time with Goldbride. Ahmed is well over rated by Man U.
Apart from maybe Real Madrid if you leave United you’re going to lesser team in prestige etc. You’re selling players because they’re on the way down for whatever reason so their value isnt there.
Letting people go for free though is ridiculous so at least get something for them
I am not keen on selling players like Garnacho, Mainoo and it could even become Amad because Amorins 3-4-2-1 doesn't suit them. They are young and have great potential, and have shown they can do great things which is why clubs want them. They shouldn't have to go because the has beens we have signed for too much have failed. Also if Amorin is such a good manager he will make a system that works for the players he has. A good manager in all professions uses the skills of his staff to get the required results, I am sure that we have all met the poor manager who moans the reason everything doesn't work is because of his staff, and we all know that is wrong. United have the players we have, If Amorin wants to change the way we play he should evolve the squad and get rid of players that have never performed or are in the decline first, getting the money from these transfers is Ineos problem, just selling talented youngster shows that United's issue isn't the players is the coaches and the board members.
This is normal for the January window. Most activity usually happens near the end of the window. I'd love to see us bring 1 or 2 players in. A left wing back and a striker who scores goals. I actually think that's all we really need for the 1st team. I'm happy with our defence, but I'd swap Martinez with Yoro and then put Martinez alongside Ugarte. That's a solid defence.
Mason Mount is going to go down as one of the worst signings United have ever made, i still have no idea why he was signed.
Should be sold this window
1) Anthony (free; as long as no wages)
2) Malacia; bring Alvaro home (free again; as long as we dont pay his wages)
3) Rasmus Hojlund £40m
4) Bayindir £10m
Eots
1) Christian 😢❤
2) Lindelof
3) Mount £35m
Sold at the right price (in brackets)
1) Mainoo £200m
2) Rashford £150m
3) Garnacho £150m
4) Casemiro £30m
5) Dalot £40m
Aren’t these teams also generating high revenue from exploiting the academy system, recruiting young players with the sole purpose to monetise them?
Its funny how u only mention Pogba, Lukaku & Di'Maria but non of the waist space English signings like Shaw for 30 mill 11 years ago, Maguire 80 mill, Mount, 60 mill,
First team players at united will only be sold if they aren't performing or madrid/barca want them so probably will never make profit
Joe saying we'll get 30-35m for Mount is a woeful take. He's always injured and can't play. He'll go on a free in 3 years.
It makes me sad but that is accurate.
Who is our new Sporting Director?
INCOMPETENCE!
If I had a disease that would make me hairless everywhere around my body, after what I heard about Manscape device-id get one straight away
You boys are in dreamland. Who is paying £40 to 50 million for Dalot?
That’s what came out in the papers. Doubt it’s true though
Wanna see Dalot at right wingback
Sell anyone but mainoo. If anyone left for a reasonable price I wouldn't care that much but Mainoo represents everything
United needs to stop paying silly money and giving big contracts to players with past glories who are getting on a bit and who have peaked.
We don't sell because we buy shit. Too many players think they are worth £75-£100 million when in reality we have bought £1-£2 million players in the past and won stuff
I'm not sure why you need to see another season of Onana to make a judgement.
A lot of this is irrelevant. There are no buyers for players like Mason Mount, so he is going to stay.
Ibrahimovic - Great signing
Square pegs in round holes is a stupid saying btw, try putting a fence up, all the holes are round, you put the Square posts in and back fill them 😂
I always think of that kids toy
27:37 he might be the best right winger post fergie because we haven’t had anyone else
Why are Spurs ever included when talking about big clubs. They aren’t one