BATTLESTORM STALINGRAD E3 Stalemate on the Don
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- The Soviet Union was in deep trouble during the Battle of Stalingrad Campaign. Their economy was on the brink of collapse, with food rations at starvation levels. On the 28th of July 1942, Stalin implements his infamous Order 227, which is welcomed by the troops fighting at the Great Bend of the Don River. Paulus's 6th Army manages to consolidate its positions, but can it prevent Group Zhuravlev from breaking out of its pocket? Let's find out.
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I seriously thought the whole Stalingrad thing was covered to death. You proved me wrong there, keep up the good work.
You ain't seen nothing yet. We're mostly at division and regiment level at the moment. Once we get into the city, we're going to attempt to go down to battalion level or lower
@@TheImperatorKnightin future episodes covering battalion & regimental fighting inside stalingrad. CANT WAIT FOR THAT DAY TIK.
@@TheImperatorKnight Yes! "Lyudnikov's Island" and "Pavlov's House" await!
@@TheImperatorKnight Battalion level?!? *faints*
@@TheImperatorKnight Blah... I'm not satisfied. I need to know all positions, movements, words, thoughts, feelings and desires of every soldier in the battle. I dislike mediocrity. It's all or nothing!
It's the first time I've encountered such a detailed description of order 227. I always thought that it was about officers shooting soldiers, not about controlling officers. Thanks for dispelling that myth.
That's this series in a nutshell. "Well I thought that..." "...oh"
Legend says that 158th Tank Brigade is still attacking without any infantry or artillery support.
That was one of the funniest parts on this video :D
This is what happens when you don't use Direct Line for your insurance provider.
PMSL x2!!
:D
Sounds like Hoetzendorf all over again.
Working by myself for an 8 hour shift at my convenience store. I have on my little ear piece supposedly to communicate with my manager.. I am the manager so instead I’m listening to these battlestorms lol. Thanks for these amazing videos TIK!!
Listening!?!? But you can't see what's going on!
@@TheImperatorKnight I should think he'll play it again with the visuals. I would.
Heh,this comment has made my day!
@@TheImperatorKnight I know you spend a lot of time on those maps and visuals but I drive a lot so I am re listening to the series and I spend a lot of my time forced to listen since I have to do it while I drive.
Been trying to recommend it to my Wereaboo good friend and we have epic debates over world war II and your videos have given us both ammunition because I will definitely share with him German successes and the fact that the Soviet Union did almost collapse that is not like oh the Germany stood no chance it's just they had a lot of working against them, and then also that the Red army wasn't as much of a pushover as history has portrayed them and documentaries for 30 years on the History channel.
@@TheImperatorKnight I mostly listen at work also,. BUT, now this is where it gets wild, I write down or record time stamps so I can visually see the battle after work haha
German memoirs: "We did..."
David Glantz: *No*
Also Glantz vis-a-vis the Enemy at the Gates: watch?v=7Clz27nghIg @1:17:56
@@oberstul1941 Tip for the future... Right click on the video and choose the option "Copy video URL at current time".
No need to thank me.
@@damyr That would be: th-cam.com/video/7Clz27nghIg/w-d-xo.html
No need to thank me.
Glantz was one of the few foreign researchers that actually had unhindered access to the WW2 Soviet Red Army archives in the 1990s. Reading and digesting them in Russian as a historian and retired field grade officer has made him one of the best honest john's in of the topic. Now that the FSB has restricted access to Soviet archives such strategic insight and interpretations may never happen again in our live times.
@Frank Good question. Doctor Glantz teaches at West Point and lectures at the service War Colleges. In one of his presentations he stated the archives had been resealed due to the number of WW2 documents that cover still classified operations and agreements. As a retired analyst I can comfortably tell you that even on the Allied side the number of classified and compartmentalized documents from even pre-WW2 would surprise you. Most US WW2 files were declassified at 50 years but lots of 'ULRA' type material has 100 years and "Presidential Review" tags so good luck. I am sure Mi5 and your various agencies in the UK have similar release criteria. FYI, the best documentaries about these topics came out in the mid 1990s to 2001. BBC, Discovery and the History channel made the best ones. PS, "Ancient Aliens" has ran for years off this kind of material.
"Stalin was not happy."
The life-ender for a lot of Soviet generals and officials.
@TEXOCMOTP Why would he have to list every single officer and general executed by Stalin?
Generals failed on the battlefield.
*_This enraged Stalin, who punished them severely._*
@TEXOCMOTP Well, I'd disappoint you, not everyone is high IQ aspie with obsession about officers executed by Stalin.
Random question time: aren't you the original Polandball fb owner? :
@@user_____M Sadly no. I did own Confederateball though
Maybe 'lack of fuel' was sort a code word for Soviet defenses and counter-attacks. "We are getting mobbed by this much lack of fuel" or "We are holding back the strike of the fuel yet again, but another one might drown us". And then Halder simply misunderstood their code word. Therefore, he is a completely innocent man who wronged no one, ever.
Good one))))))))))
It's official
Just like to thank you TIK for all these informative video's on both the multiple battles of Courland and Stalingrad through a series of videos! You can really get a good grasp of the progression of the battles and the units involved without reading up loads of books on any of the battles, these episodes break it down very well!
No worries! And yes, unlike a book (especially ones with poor maps, which is the majority) it really does allow us to see the battle unfold properly
Nazis: We lost because we had supply issues!
Soviets: We were starving and had to literally move our factories over mountains!
that's what happens when you implement the "total war" mentality earlier than your enemy.
China (more specifically Henan province): Wait, you guys have food?
Those two things are not mutually exclusive!
William Kozicki food was also short in the west
Isn't Lend Lease helpful when you are starving & losing a war.
Great job TIK!
This is one description from a German officer:
“We have fought for fifteen days for a single house. The front is a corridor between burnt-out rooms; it is the thin ceiling between two floors … From story to story, faces black with sweat, we bombard each other with grenades in the middle of explosions, clouds of dust and smoke, heaps of mortar, floods of blood, fragments of furniture and human beings … The street is no longer measured by meters but by corpses … Stalingrad is no longer a town. By day it is an enormous cloud of burning, blinding smoke; it is a vast furnace lit by the reflection of the flames. And when night arrives, one of those scorching howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them.
Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long;
only men endure."
Wich German officer, if i may ask?
@@f.g.h604 I’m sorry I’m not sure. I believe it was in Gantz book
@@raoulduke2625
As an expat Englishman living in Germany since 1970, I have seen many German documentaries on Stalingrad. Your quotation is typical for the horrific "Rattenkrieg" (Rat's war) described by practically all of the German veterans who survived the horrors of the battle. In terms of human suffering, it would be difficult to find a worst conflict in the bloody annals of human history. How ANYBODY survived, on both sides, including the poor civilians caught in the city, is beyond comprehension, and of course, only 6,000 German survivors returned from Russian captivity, most as late as 1955, ten years after the war had ended. A colleague of mine in the early 1970's, a veteran of the Wehrmacht and Stalingrad, told me that in 1939, he was called up for military service - he was 19 years old. He didn't return home until 1955 after being captured at Stalingrad and captivity. He was 35 years old and his whole youth and young adult life had been wasted, for what ?
Inferno
0:08 "...Stalin was NOT happy."
The whole eastern europe: "chukle nervously" I'm in danger.
Well that escalated quickly......
When is he ever happy?
@@rebelkommando6166 His first wife
Haha Uncle Joe laughs...Now you go to " Penile Battalion"
Thank you for finally talking about the manpower and economic situation of Russia in 1942
There are so many stupid people who just think losing half of your industrie and manpower makes no difference because iTs tHe SoVIeT uNIOn
The Battle really was a death or no death struggle for both sides
Few people are aware of how close of a call was the 1942 summer offensive.
They relocated the most of their industry. Even if some of those plants started working without a roof the infrastructure was there ready and waiting.
You're correct about the manpower, they lost control over 74 million people.
@@simplicius11 That's not true, they lost most of their industry. Their industrial output in raw materials more than halved in 1941. They relocated around 3000 factories but lost around 30 000.
@@simplicius11 Ofcorse you have to put everything in to perspective
They lost a third of their population so therefore they only need 2/3 of the food and 2/3 of the consumer product output but the loses were far greater then that.
To be at a point to tell your troops the war is lost if you retreat needs a realy bad situation.
If you do lose the battle the troop moral plumits beyond your control ao it realy is a last ditch measure to try to control the situation
@@Grondorn Complete nonsense. They relocated around 3000 big plants, the smaller ones are counting thousands. And don't you worry I could go into details, especially for those smaller factories, because the documents for the bigger and the most important plants are still classified (But we know that these were relocated ).
Nothing like that was achieved in history. How did they manage all that in these conditions is still a secret for the historians. That was the key for the Soviet victory, nothing would be possible without that.
Another good one, sir!
Outstanding analysis and cross-referencing of such various information sources. We're far from the insipid mainstream media history...
Tik, you are a highly informed historian and I really love watching your documentaries. I hope you teach kids because you would be a fantastic teacher. Thanks for all your programmes. Richard
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It's become a recurring theme in my life...
It's a good habit to have ;)
It's painful when you're at work when one gets uploaded, and you don't want to watch it on your phone but at home. hehe
True. Every Monday evening is like a Saturday Night Fever with TIK.
Black bread is a typical Russian food staple. Very tasty, too, it's like sourdough rye.
Yes but I think this black bread was bulked up with wallpaper paste or sawdust.
Yea I like Rye Whiskey...one could call that liquid food.😄
One of the reasons it was still available is that the rye/sourdough breads keep very well over a long time.
Example pic here: img.chefkoch-cdn.de/rezepte/1839771298219403/bilder/367399/crop-600x400/rheinisches-schwarzbrot.jpg
Aweful
You're knocking this stuff out of the park TIK! I just got done reading Beevor's Fateful Siege. I loved the book but I'm so glad to see you spending so much attention on the approach to the city and the movements/actions beforehand!
Hes right@TIK just look at all these seriously positive comments,your on Fire mate.
TIK, I just want to thank you for this amazing creation. Want to express my deepest admiration goes for your dedication to prepare and do this documentary. As a person who is interested in second world war since I was young (9 years old, now I am 30), I find this masterfully done. I can´t wait for more and soon (after my financial struggles pass) I will become a patreon. THANK YOU so much!
TIK, this is so far a superb series, far more in depth and infinitely more interesting than any book or documentary on this subject thus far for me. I have studies WW2 for 35 of my 51 years, and I'm always finding out new information. This series is a treasure trove, and one which would keep any academic in thrall. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series. No spoilers (lol) I'm really enjoying the fruits of your hard research ( I know how hard and complicated that can be) Also, as someone who has played strategic level wargames to chill out, the graphics sit right at home too! great to watch, and it feels like I'm watching in almost real time. keep up the good hard work, there's a reason your gaining more followers. Keep it up mate....P.S. do you have a video on the hurtgenwald engagement? and one I'm intensely fascinated with, the korson/cherkassy pocket? there appears very little literature on this. kind regards.
Exceptional and outstanding video. Your dedication to objective historical investigation and reporting is truly admirable. I've read about the Battle of Stalingrad all my life, but you open a whole new understanding of how it really happened.
This is done so excellently I'm almost speechless........almost.......I don't know anyone who has taken a intensely complex multi faceted subject and explained it with such concise understandable articulation.By no means do I ever want you to stop doing video's......but I gotta say I do hope at some point you write a book or 20.Superb work.
A Book yes please a buetifull hardcover too!id buy it in a heartbeat.
Actually, most of men stopped by blocking detachments were not shot or sent to penal battalions. They were simply returned to their detachments or sent as reinforcements to other ones.
He mentions that.
@@Pilotmario Oh, I must have missed that.
@@АлексейКосарчук It's fine. Sometimes we miss things.
TIK has already had a few extended rants about the "Enemy at the Gates" scene depicting the blocking detachments. Please don't trigger him again :)
Aleksi (if I have your transliteration correct) Are you able to give any historical references for this?
Love your battlestorm episodes so much that this is one of the best playlists I have ever seen and watched
Every other Stalingrad documentary just glosses over the pre-city fighting stage. You sir again amaze me 🙌
Minute 16:00 , thank you for playing the romanian hymn. I appreciate that a lot. Thank you for honoring our heroes!
Three minutes in and this episode is already making me hungry
You may enjoy the book "The Taste of War" by Collingham. You can't eat it, but it's a good read
@@TheImperatorKnight You can't eat it? Hold my beer!
@@TheImperatorKnight Cover it in enough BBQ sauce and you can eat anything.
360Nomad- Darn it! The BBQ sauce has just been rationed.
@@mikhailiagacesa3406 what about the vodka comrade? just soak it in long enough that it becomes a delicious mush!
recently discovered your channel and just started watching your 'battlestorm Stalingrad' series, excellent work sir, well done and thank you
Fell in love with your channel. Just perfect. Thank you so much.
Dehydrated foods can have significant less weight than the same food full of moisture. It doesn't just shave a few pounds, it saves a LOT of space and weight for shipping.
I'm a 6ft tall man who has been on a diet for 15 months that at times dropped to 1200 cal per day. At those low levels I got too weak even when the day's activities weren't strenuous. Starting 3 months ago I increased the cals to 2500 to 3500 per day but still found that I'd get too weak when having a strenuous day at work (this was the range of a Soviet soldier's ration). Now I take in 4500 to 5000 cal per day and feel fine with strenuous work all day (which was the American soldier's ration). And I've stabilized maintaining a total loss of 155 lb from the start 15 months ago.
So not only were the Soviet soldiers cal intake insufficient for the task at hand but worse when the winter cold set in. On the other hand the Americans certainly had dietary expertise in calculating the needed caloric intake of an active soldier.
Congrats on the weight loss tho!
Few Soviets were 6 footers. Along with East Slavs, Caucasus natives, and Central Asians not being known for their height even when fed well enough to reach their genetic potential, the Soviet WW2 soldiers had lived their entire lives in a country wracked by hunger and deprivation, and that was when it was at peace rather than in civil war, war with the Poles, etc. when the situation would have been even worse. So along with stunted growth, they were thin as well, and had slowed-down metabolisms eking the most out of every calorie. Didn't take as many calories to feed them as it would some hearty-eating, beefy American farmboy.
im 5.7 and around 9stone yes ima ware im well underweight and have a seriously high metabolism,plus smoking the olde yaknow dont help but i eat regulary less than 1000 cal a day,the high levels you lot speak of eating here now worries me eh?should i be worried ps>im nearly 50 yrs
If you are 6 ft and lost 155 (70 kg) then you were a very large man when you were trying to live off of 1200 calories a day (at least 330 lb/ 150 kg) These soldiers were like 1/3 of your weight and 6 ft was really tall in that time. Like the other reply mentioned before me, this was a different time where people were generally smaller and used to living off far less calories then people do in modern times. You really can’t compare how those amounts of daily calories effected you (specially when you were 150 lb heavier) to how those same amounts effect the soldiers at the time. The issue for them was that was what they were rationed but normally not what they were actually receiving at the time.
Also, congratulations on losing so much weight. Good work.
Hey TIk I would like to thank you for bringing these amazing videos to us. It really helps bring further foresight to the war in the East. Great work man.
Good analysis of Stalins Order 227. Finally a contextualised analysis
In my readings on the battle it always struck me as odd that the Wehrmacht apparently sailed into Stalingrad with little difficulty other than supply issues. Surely the soviets could see them coming and put up resistance before Stalingrad itself i considered. I was aware of Kalach and the fighting around the Don bend but this excellent presentation reveals just how much more a counter attack it was. Logic alone supports that the soviets would do such a thing. Thank you Tik.
Thanks TIK, Appreciate your time consuming task of research and cramming info. GREAT JOB sir.
Bloody excellent! Thankyou for all the hard work you have put into it - it really shows. I've learned something new EVERY time I watch one of your vids.
I always learn something new from these videos. Thanks TIK.
24:12 Dear TIK, first syllable in the name of the river Chir is read like in "cheerful" not like in "shire" (unless eagles will save Paulus in your version of Stalingrad battle)
Example at 0:14-0:15 in this video:
th-cam.com/video/MFHfs1IaHGU/w-d-xo.html
Thank you! The guy in that video sounds like he said "Ch- ear" or "cheer". Is that right or am I mishearing it?
@@TheImperatorKnight It's pretty much cheer if you shorten ee part. Ch-ee-r or Ч-и-р.
The short ee is probably most similar to "chit" just substitute t with r.
@@TheImperatorKnight You are right. Another example at 28:09-28:11 from Aleksey Isayev:
th-cam.com/video/58j9lzctSgk/w-d-xo.html
@TIK Great job of shedding light on this most unknown Battle for the Don´s Bend. I agree that It was a decisive battle in its own right. Now it is very clear to me why failure at Kalach turned the upcoming Battle of Stalingrad into the bloody hand-to-hand struggle that it was.
I have thoroughly enjoyed the series thus far but did not expect to laugh out loud but yet I did at 32:27.
Thank you for such obvious depth of research and surely monumental effort in editing.
Epic as always. Great looking maps. Thank you for doing this.
This is the only channel on youtube I ever subscribed
Glantz and TIK my favorite historians. Keep up the good work man!
God I love these series - excellent history lesson for anyone who is a history buff
I have some down time at work just now. And at just the most opportune time, my Monday TIK video comes in.Thanks.
That was good timing then!
Yet another outstanding video by TIK keep up the great work!
Great video! Thanks! It's great to see information that helps to debunk the myth of Nazi invincibility.
I want to notice something. We are not only watching history from the past, but present history aswell. I am not suprise that what we are witnessing here will be remember & watch in the future. This series and overeall all TIK channel is outstanding reaching levels of scientific research. Thanks for this amazing work, It will endure the test of time
Brilliant Tik love your videos best channel on youtube.
Hi I like the way you break it up from the detailed fighting on the maps with a section on the over all situation. Watching and studying the map fighting gets a bit too much so a break is good.
Other YT content providers take note. It’s possible to make compelling content AND adhere to responsible journalism standards like quoting sources. Bravo Tik!
Having watched all Tiks output, I'm watching Stalingrad from the beginning again🙂
Your videos are amazing! Can't wait to see the rest of your Stalingrad series.
Note that while Wikipedia considers the Battle of Stalingrad to have begun in late August, it does have a fairly comprehensive article on the "Battle of Kalach", containing much of the key points of your assessment of the events (Soviet counterattacks greatly damaging and slowing down the 6th army etc).
Not one step back! Nice video TIK!!
Oh. My. God. Those food ration stats! Why haven't we been told? That is absolutely shocking!
Russian soldiers just need a piece of bread and a bottle of vodka to survive
@@soldierorsomething Dude, bottle of vodka would be an incredible treasure. Soldiers on the front line were given 100 gramms of vodka every day of combat.
The fact that executing about 10 divisions of your own guys over the course of a war is considered "a reasonable course of action" really shows how mind-breakingly horrific the Eastern Front was for all involved.
sensational work. so detailed.
My compliments for how you adress the sources in the latter part of the video. I think a lot of people (often, myself included), are completely unaware of how tricky proper histiography can be, how much we're forced to rely on sources that are far from perfect or complete, and how having a completely neutral and factual perspective on anything is practically impossible because we're all biased to some extent or another and almost always have to act or form our perspectives based on incomplete or even outright dishonest sources of information.
Currently have the video on pause so maybe you mention this later on, but I'd like to add:
Making a good impression on Hitler was crucial for German high-ranking officers for the success of their careers.
And after the war, when the Western Allies decided the German army had to be rebuilt to help fight the Soviets in the cold war if it came to open warfare, a lot of the surviving German generals were trying to obtain positions in the new German army, the Bundeswehr. Therefore, anything written by a German general in the 1930-1950 period, is best viewed as a mix of a historical record and a job application or personal advertisment. Most of the biographies and histories of the Soviet leadership are suspect for similar reasons, except they were trying to buddy up to Stalin or whichever of his sucessors was in power at the time.
This is also why Soviet historical writings from different periods can openly contradict eachother; people were changing their story constantly to appeal to whoever they neeeded to appeal to at the time of writing. For example, if you read what Soviet historians wrote about Marshall Zhukov; there are time-periods where they basically tried to ignore and downplay what he'd contributed because these were periods where he was not popular with the leadership of the time. Zhukov more or less goes from being portrayed as the hero who saved the motherland, to being portrayed as a nobody who took credit for other people's work, back to being portrayed as the hero. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, and it's not easy to figure out where in the middle that is, because there are hardly any sources on him that were not distorted by the politics of the time.
This does not mean they are complete lies or fictions or that you can learn nothing from them, it's just a very extreme example of a situation where it's very important to be aware of the writers' motivations, why they're writing and what audience they're writing for, and to double check writings against other sources from the same time period.
This is true for any historical research that the researcher wants to be factually accurate, but Soviet and Nazi military history is a particularly good and sometimes extreme example of the importance of sourcing and fact-chacking in the process of investigating history.
Thanks for posting.. Popular view that Germans just plowed their way into Stalingrad and somehow got stuck at cross streets in the city is clearly simplistic. You've provided a lot of missing information about these overlooked actions. Good job.
Thank you for what you've been doing.
Amazing documentary. Keep up the good work.
Level of research is phenomenal, just discovered your channel.
I like this so much because strategic insight is coupled with tactical detail. Most strategic thinkers don't get tactical and those who do are often not consequent and detail oriented. Likewise many tacticians don't think strategically.
"Offcourse killing wounded soldiers is a terrible crime... Witch is why we can´t feel sorry for the Axis..."
Big flex right there
I personally don't feel sorry for every single nazi who invaded my country. Knowing what they did and what they planned for Soviet citizens i can only cheer for Red Army exterminating all of them and their families if needed. They are the ones responsible for their own dehumanization.
@@artiombeknazaryan7542 edgy
@@arwing20 you know my grandfather was a veteran. Enlisted at 17, lied he was 18 to join the fight. Military commissariats had a blind eye for some age exaggerations with the shortage of fighters they had. So he made all the way from Moscow41 to Berlin45. He told me that the things he witnessed on the liberated territory were enough of a proof that nazis are not people anymore. Some units definitely made a vow not to capture them alive and this rule was universal for SS units in general.
arwing20 what is “edgy” supposed to mean?
Edit: artiom made a good point. That is to the Cold War Russia was treated like a state that was worse than the nazis and this is used today to paint the same image.
@@artiombeknazaryan7542 People should be responsible for their choices & people should experience the appropriate 'natural consequences' for their immoral/unethical behaviours. However, extending those judgement & consequences to include family members & relatives cannot be justified using moral arguments. Suxh a vengeful mindset accomplishes nothing & only perpetuates the cycles of hate & violence in the region. In fact, fighting between bloodlines & making families & descendants suffer for the transgressions of individuals is one of the main reasons that European history is filled with racism, oppression, wars, and even genocide (which the perpetrarors try to justify using the idea of making an entire race, religion, or culture pay for the transgressions of a subset of individuals in that race, religion, etc.)
Good observations about the food shortages. A lot of attention is focused on Leningrad, justifiably, but this is the first I've seen in depth about regular front line soldiers being chronically short of basic rations on a routine basis for extended periods of time.
Excellent stuff TIK. I hope you keep it up; it looks like a lot of work went into this.
Superb Historical detective work TIK! (Making more popcorn for the next installment)
Those counter attacks are tactical failures but strategic success in really holding 6th german army advance. very good episode. i guess we all learn something here.
Fantastic again... Makes my Monday.
Yesssss, Finally, I was waiting for this.
Wow been looking for a channel like this for so long. Awesome!
BTW, idk if you know it or not, but Isaev begin same series of Stalingrad battle with Micheil Timin, and moving at roughly the same pace as you are, but your approach is more systematic, while touching pitfalls of both fighting forces, and maps as an illustration of what and where it was going on makes a huge difference in deeper understanding how battle played out. Isaev(and any other author) do using some maps, but not nearly on the same level as you do, so Kudos to you, and whoever making it happen! Keep 'em coming, this been a LONG two weeks of waiting for episode 3 btw!
_Meanwhile, the Soviet Tanks attacked without support towards Lipologovskii._
'And that is what's so brilliant about it. Doing what we have done 18 times before is the last thing they'll expect us to do this time!' - General Melchett
@@zxbzxbzxb1 It did actually work at Gallipoli when they retreated, Lindybeige has a video on it but take them with a big bag of salt. "Three Great British Wartime Deceptions".
@@user_____M thanks, i'll check that out, although i'll say if Gallipoli is what happens when the tactic works, I'd hate to see what happens when it doesn't...
@@zxbzxbzxb1 IIRC, there's also that part of Market Garden (one of TiK's earlier videos) where the Germans attack in exactly the same way to fool the Allies, because they never did that.
Still, I think it's fair to say the Red Army (at this stage) isn't exactly known for it's brilliant tactics (in most cases). They do learn, but most of the exceptionalism is at the higher operational and strategic level, as they are often willing to sustain large losses to achieve larger overall gains. Is it the right way to do things? Was it the best method given their resources and opponents? Given what they knew, what *should* they have done? That's a matter of debate, and not an easy set of questions to answer.
@@zxbzxbzxb1
But you can move your drinks cabinet 6 inches closer to the front!
-Captain Edmund Blackadder.
finally the third episode. was waiting for long time.
Thumbs up. Another great video.
You deserve way more subscribers.
I only made to 6th minute, wow pretty good coverage, especially for those who don't know what kind of hardship USSR went 1941-42(including human resources), and comparison to western countries, thank you for doing it TIK. Good Job!
As for a music goes... this is a lot more appropriate... This song was wrote on a second day of invasion and became a "mobilizing force" that unite troops and give strength. I get goosebumps every time I hear this song, lyrics is just as powerful as music itself. It called "Sacred War". In this particular documentary you can see Moscow city in a first days of war, and its citizens. Then parade on November 7th 1941(the only parade held during the war at Red Square!).
th-cam.com/video/sailmeWkm_A/w-d-xo.html
Please do use it whenever you can instead of hymn of Soviet Union.
P.S. As growing up in Soviet Union, it is weird to hear hymn of Soviet Union on documentary, it is almost always was a "Sacred War" music accompany any documentary especially the most difficult begging of the War.
Magnificent material! Never has been the Stalingrad battle described in such detail and precision!(...)A comment on the analysis on minutes 34 - 37: not only the German accounts (memoirs) are silent about the battle at Kalach. The Soviet Sources (memoirs) mostly ignore this as well, in case Stalingrad battle is mentioned - with the battle beginning (the earliest) once the Germans have crossed the Don on a wide front, or even - once the Germans have entered the city, but not the battles that lead towards the situation. (...) It was a very important moment, when the capture of Stalingrad was prioritized and forces from the Caucasus direction were shifted towards this new goal - in the direction of the main soviet reinforcement axis. I assume that using the Don-bend as a defensive line against soviet counterstrikes, and retained axis towards Caucasus and eventually Astrakhan would be more beneficial for the Third Reich. (...)You put light on highly important events and show the combination of logistical issues and soviet resistance leading to the stalemate. (...)Off - topic: another interesting area (just a thought) for historical investigation: the 'race' to the Dniepr, Summer - Autumn of 1943, up until the capture of Kiev. Part of the so called 2nd phase of the Great Patriotic War. Very very obscure. Can't mention many operations by name, much unlike the later Stalingrad battle.
Parts of the Wiking Division crossed the river when it had already been conquered. There were hundreds of bodies, mostly of German origin.
So nice to be able to click the LIKE button first, then sit back and watch another great video from TIK.
Коммент в поддержку видео для продвижения в моем регионе.Спасибо, было очень интересно.
Stalin's "Middle Management" technique is also a very Russian trait. People wondered why the serfs still loved the Czar despite him having all this power he once had. Its because he would then use it to crush the aristocrats that were more directly harming the serf. Even Putin uses this tactic. "Thank goodness our leader has so much power, because he uses it to punish the guy that punished me."
Holy Christ these are good these are good.... please keep it up, i will raise some cash, somehow. Loved N. Afrique, loved Nederlandia, liked the pocket.... but, this, this, this stuff, if I wasnt old, I'd get wooden...its so completely absorbing. So looking forward to the rest t(his christmas?), but, if I survive till next Xmas, some how, some day, some way... TIK must do Normandy... (at least) from the shoreline to the Falaise! Lord, hear our prayer! Still, always a little dissappointed in the lack of details on air wars in all these TIK presentations, since, I always beleive, that is always what tips a WW2 scale. I always wonder if there is ever an exception... as go the air cover so goes the battle.
Well done tik. Just like the old north africa campaign!!! loving this series
helloTik, congratulations for the episodes you are doing, my grandfather fought in the Romanian army near Stalingrad in a Romanian field artillery battery and he told me that before starting the attack, the Russians were given to drink Vodka and started wave attack shouting live Stalin Ura, came over them had to shoot with cannons at ground level to stop them and the machine gun pipes were heating from shooting
Those Russian soldiers were caught between showing their communist fervor and fear of capture or discipline for failure. In their minds, the latter two must have been a certain way to eventually die; so why not die in battle fanatically.
We must remember too that Stalin's initial plea was for the people to fight for the motherland (without mention of the communist party). He also initially put restraints on the NKVD to allow more freedom of the populace. So there was the honor of fighting for your home soil mixed along with the hope of a less restrictive government.
How is die ewige Franz Halder at fault for all of the world's woes this time? Find out on the next episode of BATTLESTORM!
Halderp is always at fault
Crazy I just looked up Gordov. He had a conservation with a comrad regarding Stalin and his policies. Stalin found out and had him executed in 1950. he was playing the game here it seems.
WHEN U CHASE TWO RABBITS YOU CATCH NEITHER. NICE TOUCH TIK
It's an old Native American proverb.
@Inquisior6321 Uh, no. I'm French, and we've that proverb in French too. So the English probably got it from us.
I actually checked it out, and in English, the source are vague, eitheir people say it's a russian proverb, or that it comes from confucius ( ) Meanwhile, French source says it comes from the Ancient Greeks
What an excellent analysis!
Thank you. I thought Beever's book was enough, much more to dig into.
22:28 "Both sides were fighting an ideological and brutal war of extermination". I would disagree with that, considering that Germany still exists today, and its population was left mostly unharmed when compared to what the Nazis had planned for the east.
In the minds of the soldiers on the battlefield, this was very much a war where the stakes were incredibly high on both sides regarding their culture and existence. Germany still exists today but it’s never been the same since 1945. Over 30 years since the reunification of Germany and there is still a huge socioeconomic divide been East and West Germany because of the tens of millions of Germans that were living behind the iron curtain while West Germany prospered. Could you imagine if the Soviets ruled over the entirety of Germany. The country would be a big massive shithole
thats because the allies. if the allies weren't there the iron curatin would certainly not have stopped where it did.
@@chrisstucker1813 Shithole does not equal to extermination and genocide
@@currahee does not change Germany being a genocidal slave state. While the Soviets were only a slave state
@@aksmex2576 believe me, i'm not comparing them., nor am i saying the ussr was worse. germany was worse imo and got what they had coming to them. I'm an american so I never judge the soviets for what they did, as it wasn't me or my parents and grandparents that went through it.
If it wasn't for the allies holding their territory, Germany as we know it today probably wouldn't exist had it been left to the soviets. and I wouldn't even be able to blame them (the soviets) after what they went through. But I agree with you in the sense that it wasn't an equal scenario. If germany lost, like they did, they would come out of it mostly unharmed and even better than before. If the soviets lost, they would've exterminated off the face of the earth. so in that respect, i agree with you. but this is only the case because of the allies.
Best Eastern Front explanations, ever!
Great work, thanks!
The narrative "no information about losses" is wrong. There are loads of quite precise information in Russian from primary sources.
Another story is the language of course.
Yury- that is true- however, due to the more hostile sphere nowadays, as others have mentioned, historians from western countries do not have unlimited access to old soviet/russian archives anymore. That said, I am not so sure a russian historian would have unlimited to western source material either.
Sadly, we live in a more hostile environment again, much like the cold war period
great job with this serial... keep going!
I want to thank you TIK for getting all this sources and making all this work to get whole picture of this fight AND not trying to represent it with some bias, I have read most of those books you have listed and main thign to get from there was "if only Hitler ...". I don' support that evil dictator but at same time I don't want to get influenced by some propaganda.What you do is great, you go through all sources what you find and make this videos, history freak like me can't thank you enough.
Man this is great. Instantly subscribed, and I can't wait for more!
In the meantime head to TiKs mainpage and watch all that lot,should keep you busy for some time i reckon
@TIK.
Good vid, as usual.
The level of detail you go into is fantastic for us 'semi-armchair historians'.
I believe your vids have an unintended effect...
When I try to go back and watch the old black and white films from the 'Battlefield' and 'World at War' series or the 'Timeline' series I end up not able to watch them for two reasons...
1) They lack the detail you provide and
2) They seem to become more inaccurate and at times outright wrong as new information is researched (by people like you for example) and old (and current) politcal agendas and narratives are exposed.
I appreciate the level of work you must put into your vids.
Please do keep up the very good work.
'Si vis pacem para bellum'.
;-)
Yes! One of the reasons I started doing the Battlestorms originally was because I felt that the old TV documentaries were too wishy washy, and weren't presenting the history. History lies in the heart of the debate - so without the debate, you don't have history. The old TV documentaries not only didn't give the details, but they played it safe and just presented a 'safe' narrative so as not to alienate anyone. Well, that leaves most viewers with a feeling that they're not getting the full story, or that the producers didn't really look into the topic. It also left me frustrated and wanting to know more. Hopefully these videos are presented in a way that shows I am looking at as many sides of the argument as possible, and am not scared of diving into the details
@@TheImperatorKnight
Aye, I get ye.
And not to blow smoke up yer arse, ye do a good job of it.
Just the other day I tried to watch a 'Timeline' vid about Sir Hugh Dowding and the Battle of Britain.
I couldn't get pas the first 10 minutes or so because not only were there some glaring inaccuracies but the whole thing felt a bit 'tabloid' to me and smelled of an agenda-driven 'narrative'.
Lot's of 'history' suffers from this of course and as the saying goes....
"History is written by the victors" and it was old Churchill himeslf who said "History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it".
Thanks fer yer reply.
I am now going to drink tea wand watch the rest of yer Stalingrad series.
;-)
I didnt like how those Soviet tank units would make a push with out any infantry or air support.
Nice coverage of one of the more important strategic precursors of the failure of Fall Blau. The first 7 or 8 minutes of this video answered a question I had through the first couple videos in this series--"Why are the Soviets fighting in front of the Don?" There didn't seem to me to be any real strategically valuable resources in the Don bend, and the Stalingrad Front was partially formed, strung out on the march and suffering from supply problems. However, I guess comrade Stalin felt differently.
TIK nice music @5:40 Soviet national anthem. Genius editing, you are awarded Hero of the Soviet Union!