1963-72 Chevy & GMC Truck Air Ride / C10 Suspension / Air Bags Install
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ย. 2020
- Dave Welch shows us how easy it is to get that perfect ride height that gives your truck attitude and character. BROTHERS Basic Air Ride Kit for 1963-1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups installs easily, is easy to understand and control, uses quality components and is VERY upgrade-able if you decide you want to go bigger and badder down the road.
Direct Product Links:
Complete Suspension Kit
www.holley.com/products/suspe...
Complete Air Management Kit
www.holley.com/products/suspe...
Suggested Items:
Adjustable Track Arm
www.holley.com/products/suspe...
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Because of these helpful videos, I tend to look to Brothers for parts first.
Thanks man!
True, but LMC Carry some of the stuff they don’t have.
That compressor in the cab has got to be lovely.
Yeah, BbRrrrrrrrrrrrttt! Ha ha, put it somewhere else I would not be able to stand-it either, ha ha😂
He is Definitely my go to for instruction...
The vent windows kicked my butt...
Very well explained with plenty of detail and “how-to” hints. Excellent video, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Didn’t know enough about airbags to think I would install them myself. I do now!👍
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Getting ready to replace aged bags on my 1968 C10.
Right on! Thanks for watching.
Very well and clearly explained! Thanks for the video. I'll save it to watch again when I get my air bag kit 👍🏼
Right on!
Awesome stuff.. The fact that theres no fancy expensive tools involved makes it so much easy to relate
Thanks!
I love your videos I myself have a 66 fleetside c10 and restoring it. keep up the great content
Thanks for watching! Enjoy the project!
One of the best detailed video I’ve ever watched, nice work!
Thanks for watching!
Good informative video. I am working on getting mine together and this helped a bunch. Thank you...
Our pleasure!
Excellent job installing air suspension and compressor on this Chevrolet C10 pick-up truck for increase payload capacity as well as towing capacity
Thanks for watching!
Always a pleasure to watch Dave. David is a hard working fantastic instructor ! I’m not sure I want air bags, but, I enjoyed the in depth video.
Great how to video, now to get my CFO (wife) to agree to purchase the kit !
Thanks Dave , I would have used that nice lift to do this job , if I had one available.
Awesome that you demonstrate that this job can be done old school, on the floor!
Thanks for watching my vids man!
How about a truck with with leaf springs on rear
You make the best videos dude. Thank you
Thank you for the kind remark, and thanks for watching!
another great job, thanks
Great video. You guys are the best..
Thanks for watching!
This video was very helpful.
Thanks!
Very nice kit I'll be ordering one.
Right on!
Great video, thanks for sharing 😃
Our pleasure!
Great video! Gracias!
Awesome instruction 👍
Thank you for watching!
I'm hooked I subscribed.
Thank you for watching!
Thanks.😊
32:37 did he just call us dogs and ask us to subscribe!😂😂
@6:32 truck needs lower control bushings, look at how the lower control arm moved/shifted when spring tensions was relieved. Good video excellent explanation on everything. Hope one day i have the funds to do a kit like this on my late daughters truck.
This truck had new suspension components before we started the airbag conversion, including upper and lower shafts and caps. The reason it looks like it shifts whe the tension comes off is because as it started to extend, the tension decreased and Adrian (Dave's assistant) twisted the handle on the jack and it sped-up making it look like it shifted/moved. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV I thought the bushings were supposed to be tight to the point that when the lower arm has no spring tension on it, the arm needs to be forced down by hand? i guess the bushing was worn in or something.
@@YoungHeartedSoul They should be able to move freely, there is nothing that would bind them.
Good video.
Thanks for watching
New subscriber!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you!
Perfect video had So much helpful information , from saftey to helpful drilling tips to very excellent job on explaining installation to being on ground like most of us man thank you very MUCH and yes im a subscriber 👌👍👍👍 (will this work on c20 )
Works for a C20 as long as you don't have leaf springs in the rear.
I am down, on the ground, like a DOG 😂
So how do you mount the rear bottom mounting plate? Does the bottom of the bag have a center 1/2” unc hole?
Does brothers sell just the bags?
Do the bags differ from front & back?
Restoring my childhood farm truck, a 1967 C10 long bed. I like to place a full sheet of $80 plywood in the back, close the tail and nurse my presses cargo home. I am very happy with my new stock 1/2 ton brothers rear springs and heavy shocks but getting to the front. Modified to tandem brake master & dual diaphragm booster the works perfect, I was curious if a guy who has now plans to up & down 16 times a day (unless wife say otherwise) can a guy tee these front bags together and just air them up, test drive, find a sweet spot and leave alone? I like things simple, reliable and by design, longevity. Even soaping the fittings and use liquid PTFE thread sealant correctly. Good point on the grommets for lines. I have seen hundreds of truck amps w/welding cable over a doors weather strip. Way too my wrong. Scotch Locks & loud radios sell parts!
I am done fixing vehicles on flat rate. Yeah! ASE Master - Retired
Dean, you can find a ride height/air pressure you like, set it and forget it.
So how do I lift the front or rear of a 64 3/4 ton . I plan on hauling a heavy horse trailer and trying to keep it stock with just a little bit of altitude. Would like it if most people couldn't notice it . Thanks . More videos ! Appreciate all your help
You don't have a lot of options lifting a 2wd except maybe using coil spring spacers. If it's a 4x4 then you can use blocks or even lifted leaf springs. On a 2wd or 4x4 you could also do a body lift, but that doesn't make much more than a cosmetic difference.
Will this adjustable track arm (in description) work for my 1970 C20 or do I have to get the deluxe track arm kit from the website?
This is a 63-72 arm, so this definitely won't work for your Square. use the deluxe from our website and you'll be 100%!
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV thank you for letting me know I appreciate it very much
Great video. Do you have any on steering column rebuild?
Not yet, but that's a killer idea! We'll add it to our list.
Good video next time show us how the system runs where we can see the whole truck go up and down
It's at the end of the video, front and rear shown going up and down
Great video. Very educational and very detailed. Great job. 👍 I want air bags on my 2014 Chevy Cruze. Where can I purchase the air system and who can install it? Thank you. Stay safe.
Not sure who can help you with the Cruz, we only do classictruck stuff. Best to try a Google search and see what you can find.
If I have a front cross member that seats the top of an airbag instead of bolting the plate to the upper control arm, are the top of these bags capable of mounting there without the plates instead?
Our air bags are not tall enough for that type of mounting. Additionally, because the angle of the bag changes as it arcs, we don't recommend mounting up in the top seat because of the potential for it to rub on the crossmember and eventually get a leak.
Any ideas on doing this to a 75 C20 and 68 C30. Not really to lower, just wanting a smoother ride. Thinking on removing some of the rear leafs but getting heavy duty capacity back with air bags. Thanks
they would both require the installation of rear trailing arms in order to accomplish the air ride conversion. The front would work basically the same as this, but the rear needs the leafs removed first. We sell a conversion kit for this project if you are interested in tackling it.
How does airbag ride quality compare to the trucks conventional coils and shocks ?
It depends on the setup really. Normally smoother, but it can be fine tuned with spacers on the bags so you could vary the air pressure to "tune" the ride quality to your liking. So we guess the answer is... it's up to you.
Wish i could use this kit on my 60 fleetside... do you have a kit to replace front torshin bars suspension
Nothing available at the moment.
Can you do a video for your 73-87 4 - link air ride kit for those with a square body? There isn't any on TH-cam. Would be so helpful.
We'll add that to our list! Thanks for suggesting!
When the bags are fully inflated how much lower is it than stock.
Great video,,,,but how would this we work with rear leaf springs 73-87
We have a front only kit available, and a rear kit that converts to trailing arms and bags, that'll get you there if you have a truck with leafs.
Great video, so to completely install this you need the air management and the suspension kit?
Our kit is complete. You can upgrade if desired, but this kit will 100% do the job.
Can the factory ride height be achieved if this kit is installed on a stock non lowered c10-c20?
The length of the bags in this kit are designed to lower the truck. Longer bags can be used to keep the factory height. Please contact our customer service department for options.
With my bagged longbed up on a 4-point lift is there a problem with the bags stretched out and hanging unsupported ?
Only if you let them hang stretched out for a long time
Where can I buy this while kit
What size jack stands do I need for a 1968 C10? Are 3 ton stands good enough?
3ton stands will work fine.
Love your videos! Would this set up fit on a 87 suburban?
We have a setup for that too! Contact our shop at 800-977-2767.
Do you have a video on how to install front shock relocater kit?
No, but thats a great suggestion, thanks!
I ordered the complete suspension kit and the air management kit, I have a 1964 step side with the short bed, should I also get the adjustable rear track arm that you sell? Also would this even fit my truck as I see that it is listed as being made for 1965-1972 trucks. Thank you guys .
You should buy the track arm so you can correct the position of the rear end. Additionally, you should strongly consider adding front AND rear sway bars.
Does the complete kit come with lines & the compressor or do I need to buy that separately
Our kit includes the lines and compressor.
Is there 1 pressure for the front and another pressure gauge for the rear?? Or 1 gauge for all in this kit
Our kit uses a single gauge with Dual Needles and it's capable of controlling the front and rear pressure separately.
Hi will this awesome Air ride set up work for a 1966 Chevy C 10 pick up truck? Thanks
Yes, it will work on all 63-72 coil spring chassis.
Yes I’m currently doing a 66 c10 fleetside
How much air pressure in those bags if you have a full factory load limit ?
The amount of pressure is going to vary wildly by the application (ie; 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, longbed, shortbed, metal floor, wood floor, etc). For reference, our bags are rated to a max pressure of 600psi, and have a load range of 350-3000 lbs per bag which exceeds the factory load limit of a 1/2 ton truck by a LOT. Our suggestion is to add air under load until your desired ride height is reached and note that pressure for your specific application.
In the end of the video is the truck as low as it gets? On the website it says it goes all the way to a 7/8 drop, if so does the gas tank have good clearance,thanks
We had some wheel/tire clearance issues with the setup on this truck so to answer your question, NO this is not as low as it can get. A 7/8 drop is typically what you can expect.
mines a 70 gmc
8 inches down on springs !!! bags are for groceries .
are brothers hireing ??? this guy obviously doesn't work in a shop !!
in the back it doesn't need the leaf springs anymore for a 1986 chevrolet pick up?
The rear end of a leaf spring equipped truck would have to be converted to a trailing arm style before this kit would be useful.
So if youre replacing the coil springs with bags, are they good enough to be used daily?
Keen to see the replies here
Absolutely, there's no reason you couldn't daily drive a truck that has been bagged. Many vehicles throughout the decades have been equipped with air bags right from the factory! We have an employee here at BROTHERS that drives a '69 C10 everyday to work with bags.
Is there a kit for the trucks with rear leaf springs?
We have a front only kit available, and a rear kit that converts to trailing arms and bags, that'll get you there if you have a truck with leafs.
Does Brothers offer that kit for any other year truck like my truck year 1952 GMC
We don't offer a simple kit like this for trucks with leaf springs. To add air bags you more-or-less need to completely redesign the suspension front and rear. We have suspension parts to get your truck low, but not on air.
Can you ship to Namibia? If so what will be the price for complete kit including shipping?i have 67 C10 short fleetside
You're going to have to call the sales dept to get a shipping quote, but yes, we ship to Namibia.
I have a 1972 c20 3/4 ton how do I do this with rear leaf springs? And thanks for all the videos you do.. very helpful.
You can do it with leafs, you'd need to convert it to rear trailing arms first. We sell a couple different options at www.brotherstrucks.com
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV does that truck have a c-notch? Or can I just install the bags without one?
I don’t have c-notch on my 1972 c20
@@jairoquevedo5206 on this truck we did do a c-notch, but you don't necessarily need one, It just leaves the rear suspension more room to travel.
I ordered the 2 kits needed and I have completed the rear bags. The video is great! But I did not receive the written instruction or the nuts and bolts hardware that attaches the pieces to the airbags.
There are no written instructions that come with this kit, this video is the instruction manual.
Please contact our office regarding your hardware and we'll get a set out ASAP
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Thank you for the quick reply. I mention the instructions only because he refers to instructions in the video. As for the hardware I will call. I'm already halfway done and have purchased the hardware locally. Maybe I can get a few dollars credit on the rear fuel tank I will be purchasing soon.
@@jeffgood1880 Ask for Jaz, we'll tell him to hook you up with a credit.
Same for the vans?? I have a 74 i want to bag
@BROTHERS Truck parts will this work for the c20's?
Yes, as long as you have coil springs in the rear.
Do you have a setup for rear leaf springs?
Can you do a video with your 73-87 stuff? All these trucks with trailing arms have videos, but so few on the squares!
Anything specific you'd like to see? We just did a video about rear shackles for the Squares. We've also done Axle Flip Kits and C-Notch, etc.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV I’d like to add air ride to my squarebody but can’t find anything about 4-link kits-they all seem to be custom jobs. Front end stuff and trailing arms are easy but 4 link stuff is intimidating!
@@endo71 Ok cool, we'll look into doing some videos about the 4 link conversion and the air ride for Squarebody's
In the link it says complete air ride but when i open it there is many things missing.
Thanks for pointing that out Ruben, an additional link to the Air Management system has been added to the description. Air Management link: bit.ly/3gqVrNZ
What if just want lowered springs or coil over shocks do guys @ Brother Trucks know a specific brand .
We have our own brand of Coil Springs, but we're not familiar enough with any coils overs to recommend one.
@MalikDigger454 > Coil over shock will most likely involve the upper & lower control arm change as the length and mounting changes. Be prepared to change springs at least once even if calling customer service first for approximate spring. But one thing to keep in mind is service. Depending on use, but shocks have to be removed, sent to an authorized facility to have them over-hauled complete. This is because valving can fatigue, seals wear, oil degrades with time, use & wear. Just plan on that every 20k-30k miles for this work, expense plus down-time. ASE Master Retired
To What number on the relay does that wire coming from the pressure pump switch go too ?
I understand the other red wire from the pressure pump switch goes to the dash controller and the other wire goes to the relay but you don’t say to what number on the relay thanks again
Man Bill, at the moment I can't remember and I don't have the wiring diagram in front of me. Please call the shop tomorrow and someone will look it up for you. Thanks for watching!
Is the plate needed for reasons other than a place to mount your bag? I feel like you could make small bag mount and weld it up inside the pocket for more of a drop. Am I missing something? I ordered the kit for the rear and got it installed no problem. Just wondered why the plate was needed.
Exactly as you said, just to give the bag something to mount to. Not everyone has a welder or tools necessary to cut a pocket or fab a mount. This plate makes the kit useable by anyone regardless of whats in their toolbox.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Awesome! Thanks for the reply. I also noticed you cut the bottom bump stop off. Do you recommend using a universal mount just to have something in place?
@@joea.6017 If we're being honest, we just let the built-in bumpstop in the bag do the work of the OG bumper.
What brand air bags did you install?
We used D2600's
Does the rear air bags fit with a under the bed gas tank
Yes. The truck used in this video has an under-bed tank
Can u up grade the control arms
Absolutely!
What size wheels are on that truck?
22"
Are you guys still offering these kits?
Absolutely!
How much more trouble is it to do a truck with leaf springs?
You basically can't do air ride on a leaf spring truck. We sell a kit that converts the rear to trailing arms and then you can add air ride.
How do you install your emergency hand brake??
I would just be exactly like it was from the factory.
So when you drop it the emergency hand brake doesn’t activate???
@@adanmendoza3829 We've never had that happen.
Hola buenas tardes, me interesa comprar el kit de las bolsas de aire para una pick up Chevrolet C10 año 1965, soy de Veracruz, México y me gustaría saber si pueden enviarme el kit, cuánto cuesta y la forma de pago y envío a Veracruz, México, pendiente!!!
Will you guys be making a video on how to do it to a 62 c10
We don't have a complete kit for the '62 right now, so we won't be doing a video until a kit is available.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV ok 👍
Also got a 62 , wish I could ditch the torsion car setup
@@Somynigga yeah i feel the same way
@@Somynigga You can! We're going to be doing a video very soon that shows how to ditch the OG front end and replace it with a 73-87 front end. The job isn't really that hard and some of the holes are already in your frame to line it up!
What size tires and wheels on that stepside? Drop spindles?
Don't know on the tire/wheel size, but NO on the drop spindles... that's next!
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV Thanks for the reply I like that tire and wheel size combo if you do find out would appreciate the information. Thanks also for all the input and hard work!
@@jimmybags4209 We'll see if Dave can ask the owner of the truck for the tire sizes.
@@jimmybags4209 Set is 15x8 in front & 15x10 in rear. Front tires are 255/60/15 & rear are 275/60/15. Quick right?
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV awesome!
does it work for a 1986 chevrolet?
Not this kit, but we do have kits available. check our website www.brotherstrucks.com or call us at 800-977-2767.
I was trying to purchase items ro your shop and i was told youcan't ship to Namibia
We have no restrictions on shipping to Namibia. Please contact our sales manager Alex Delgado and he will make sure you get takem care of. Best way to contact him is by email alex@brotherstrucks.com
Is this all one kit or it is made up of multiple kits?
It's one kit if you have a 63-72 Chevy or GMC truck with rear coil springs. Otherwise we would take care of you using multiple kits. The direct link to this part is in the video description.
So, watched this whole thing and you didn’t even show us the lift in action? How does the system look on this installation? Does-it look good going up and down? What the height look like? How does it look during operation with the small lines provided in the Brothers lift kit? I’m left wondering what it’s final result is actually..? Looks like it will be a good kit, dunno really, wanted to “see” it work after my investment in time… Oh, well, looks like a nice enough kit..?😊
I love this guy an the video l am building a 1985 c 20 l sure would
Like a catalog l still need a lot of parts Chevy truck parts that is. Ha Ha the ad was to fast an l didn't get all of 800 number
Did you have to C notch for the rear bags?
We didn't "have to", but we did C-Notch this truck. That video came this morning, check it out on our channel.
Did I miss the part where the truck goes up and down?
you didnt have to weld or bolt in the bottom control arm bag pocket?
No, our kit is 100% bolt in
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV okay, so is there anything that prevents metal to metal wear between the lower cup and control arm? If no welding or bolts are used for the lower cup, what keeps it from moving around in the pocket?
@@musclecarsforever The lower cup is bolted on.
@@BROTHERSTruckPartsTV its official, I'm an idiot. Thanks. I'm getting ready to do my first air ride install...I now see the spot for the all thread
Have you done a c10 1965
Not in the studio, but its exactly the same as this.
Do you have a diagram on paper
A routing diagram? If that's what your talking about we don't have one. Routing of the air lines is sort of dealt with on a job-by-job basis depending on tank in the cab, hidden under the cab, behind the bumper, etc.
I guess doesn't work if you got leaves suspension in the rear 1975
Great tutorial, but I have never understood why people want to use air bags, more leak points, the controls, air pump and tank, just too many possible failure points. But that's just my opinion.
"And their not a lot of time and trouble to install". Oh yeah, try doing any other truck outside a Chevy.
Okay, i did it on my GMC and it was still easy 😂
@@MegaWillinator Chevy and GMC are the same thing. SMH. Try doing a Torsion bar truck or a Ranger. And if you want to lay frame No truck is "easy".
@@Ladysman_217 lmao I was only making a joke, I know that non GM products are substantially harder to make alterations to. My buddy swapped a crown Vic front subframe into his D150 to avoid dealing with the stock stuff
This video was very helpful.
Thank you sir!