Teams like cincinnati, ucf, Houston and byu could easily have been left out of the shuffle had they not been invited in 21. I'd say they're the biggest winners so far
I agree. I do think that if any of those four schools were available when Colorado made the move and then the dominos all fell in the Pac 12, they’d have found a home in the ACC at least. Cincy and Houston likely would’ve been #1 and #2, maybe even over ASU and Utah for the Big 12. UCF would’ve likely struggled getting into the ACC bc of FSU and Miami, and they could’ve been the one looking from the outside like SDSU is right now.
No, they won’t because they might waiting for ACC to implode if the ACC bands together and leave conference but if ACC don’t add teams, you can see the good ACC split into Big 12 and SEC. OSU and Wazzou doesn’t move the needle money wise. That’s why CAL and Stanford isn’t in Big 10
The first 4 b12 adds, especially BYU not on the list? They went from making six or seven or 8 million a year to 32 million a year? Grand slam. And BYU as an independent was looking at a dubious future and scheduling power five opponents. Securing a P5 membership was a raise of about four times the money? Double grand slam. I very much agree with your assessment that the big 12 was a big winner in all of this. They have formed a handsome conference. not as prestigious as the power to, still very attractive and stable. If the ACC crumbles, It sure looks like it might and the big 12 picks up the remnants, they will be a strong power three.
Yes. If things had gone slightly different, BYU could be on the outside looking in and long term looking at a G5 or indie for life. The other 3 schools big winners as well. Can’t believe they weren’t mentioned
I found him last summer with his conference realignment context. He's great, but still trying to find his niche despite his name is great. I think he kills it with college football and now sports stadiums/facilities, but he'll often cover a trending topic story which sometimes works (Titanic sub), but many times may not (NFL coverage/entertainment news).
So far the Big 10 and the Big 12 are the winners. You are right the Big 10 added more beef but the Big 12 added more parity. The Big 10 still has some programs (Michigan, Ohio, and Pen State) that will run over most programs in the conference in an average season. That does not seem to be the case in the Big 12. There is no one program that will win all the time in football but what they do have is a very competitive conference. I could see a program building up a good team getting into the playoff and then losing their top players to the draft and then having a drop-off the next season and another program taking their place. I do agree that SMU if they play their cards right is in a strong position going forward. They have a lot of booster money to sustain them and now they can't get the Death Penalty like what happened to them in the '80s they could once again emerge on the national scene as a significant football power. They just need to kick in the door to a larger conference.
As a Penn Stater, we don't care about conference depth at this point. There was parity putting OSU, UM, and PSU all in the same division and that was stupid to our respective title hopes. We were a top-heavy conference with 3 teams, and now we have at least 6 which is a major win in competing with the SEC. Our goal is to get teams into the top 12 and then win national titles. Also keep in mind that there are only 4 time windows every Saturday. Noon will always be dominated by the B1G. What will be the top Big 12 matchups to compete against the top SEC and B1G matchups at 3pm and 8pm? As a person who lives in Chicago, most of our bars and restaurants won't turn on Utah vs. TCU if Texas vs. Bama or Michigan vs. Oregon is on TV.
@@GeeDee103 With TX and OU leaving, yes, there will be more parity. But other than Colorado which is basically Deion, there are no national brands that I'm going to follow week to week. I got caught up in the TCU hype last year because they were playing insanely close games and winning, not because I thought they were a legit natty contender. I still think Kansas State was the better overall team last year.
I’d wait to add SMU to this list, since they haven’t actually moved yet. They could end up like Boise St and SDSU, never actually being able to make the jump.
I don’t know how you could say SMU is a winner, they needed the PAC to stick together. They will not get into the B12 and they will not get into the ACC. The B12 added quality teams but you are right no one is touching the B10, they don’t have the money. The B12 already said they are not adding UCON. They will wait until the ACC breaks up.
Yeah not sure what he is talking about with the SMU / Ucon take. A big winner is WVU, they are just another domino away from getting their rival games back.
I’m a huge Ducks fan and Washington is our rival but I agree to disagree with what you said. Washington is a strong respectable program, I think they’ll do well. They may spend less money but they put strong teams together they’re bought in and play tough. I think they’ll do better in recruiting being in the B1G but this whole video is why I am so interested in the next 5 years. I believe Washington will be a strong top half contender in the coming years, they have good tradition
I'm a Penn Stater and I think Washington and Utah are both perfect B1G teams both in football and academics. Washington won't have Nebraska's problem which is Nebraska didn't produce enough homegrown talent and relied on Texas and Oklahoma for recruits. When they left the Big 12 they lost their recruiting base. Going to the B1G, Washington is still only competing with the same teams for talent that they were before. The key to the B1G is winning in the trenches. Washington will just have to make sure they're getting bigger and strong on the O-line and D-line because it's hard to win at the skill positions unless you're OSU. And now UM has proven that wrong. Also, just like the SEC, the B1G is not going to put a team at a scheduling disadvantage that often which is why we got rid of divisions. I'm assuming ORE will be WASH's permanent rival, meaning they'll only play no more than 2 of USC, OSU, UM, and PSU on average every season. The problems will be if they catch streaky teams like Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, and MSU who can always steal wins with strong D and forcing turnovers.
People think because BIG10 teams make the most money that they are better on the field. The top 4 teams in the PAC this year are every bit as good as the best 4 in the BIG10. The BIG10 have 3 good teams, that’s it and TCU just beat their best team. I honestly think the PAC and the B12 are better too to bottom. However when you all make the move they will be significantly better and I won’t be able to say that.
@@trfisher51 I disagree. PSU was the third ranked team in the B1G last year and smacked the PAC-12 champion. Since 2020, the PAC-12 teams were 3-7 against the B1G and 0-3 in bowl games. Going back to 2010, they're 36-37 in all games and 10-16 in bowl games. OSU/UM/PSU are a combined 16-4 against the PAC-12 in regular season and bowl games since 2012. So it's not people saying it, that has just been the record since the B1G and PAC-12 did the last major expansions.
@@heartbreak25 the PAC has been shitty aside from last year. I think UW was probably the best team last year but Utah got to play in the championship game cause of a tie breaker. I think the BIG10 has 3 teams, PSU is the third. I think this year the PAC will be better. Way better QB play. I do think when they add the PAC teams they will be twice as strong but still won’t have that elite team like Georgia but OSU is close and Michigan is good but don’t have the elite level athletes OSU does.
@@trfisher51 I agree that the SEC is still the dominant conference because their best 2 are still better than the B1G's best two. They have a money and geographic (best players live in the southeast) advantage that the B1G other than OSU need to figure out how to overcome. I think the PAC-12 is going to have great regular season football. I'm definitely going to tune into a ton of their games because of the QB play. I still don't think the best PAC-12 teams can go four quarters with OSU/UM/PSU if both teams are healthy. No PAC-12 team has a top 10 defense while the B1G probably has like 4 and that doesn't even include OSU. If I had to bet, the PAC-12 teams will do what they did last year and knock each other out of the playoffs. A 2 loss team has never made it and I don't think one will make it this year. I think the playoff teams will come down to UGA, BAMA, LSU, OSU, UM, PSU, CLEM, and FSU. If one PAC-12 team does survive then I'm taking either Oregon or Washington.
Biggest winner Colorado becsuse they're a great fit getting back to their roots.and better recruiting. Oregon and Wash don't fit in the B1G. Sure, money, money, money. How's Rutgers doing?
Washington certainly fits in the B1G (emphasis on football, solid academics and $1.5 billion/yr research). Oregon is less so but they are AAU, they get good TV ratings and Nike's money talks.
I like your videos but you seem to not mention Temple University at all. They are in the fourth largest media market in the country. I hope the AAC and the Pac 4 merge. Could you do a video about Temple in the future? I would love to hear what you think. (I just subscribed.)
Are you from Philly and can provide better insights? I'm a Penn Stater but my understanding has always been that Philly doesn't have an interest in college football. It goes back to the days of Paterno neglecting the city. My outsider take is that Temple in Philly would have the same problem as Stanford in San Francisco, no one cares about the sport.
@@heartbreak25 Do some homework first before engaging in banter.......Philly was THE College Football Town!! Learn about the Penn Quakers!! They attracted far more fans in the stands than the NFL Eagles!! The Penn Quakers are the reason why the Ivy League de-emphasized athletics. Penn blew everyone away!! They had bigger crowds than Penn State back in the day.
USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington football should play each other every year for travel reasons.....therefore I think a maximum of only 1 out of the 4 will play for a BIG championship each year.
SMU knows how to pay players… it’s the whole reason they got the death penalty before NIL was a thing. Now that it’s legal, they are definitely a sleeping giant. The problem is the Big 12 already has the DFW market w/ TCU, the PAC is no more, and the ACC doesn’t seem to want them. The B1G doesn’t have a presence in Texas, so maybe SMU should apply for AAU status? Idk that’s just me.
SMU is pushing research hard right now. They are likely looking for AAU status soon. They are making moves in the right direction but time will tell if they actually do it.
I am glad to have Colorado back in the big 12. just would love to see SMU and Tulsa added to the big 12 next year. I honestly think that the big 12 is more interested in making sure their football and basketball programs are solid even if they know they cant compete with the sec and b1g when it comes to the tv deal. Big 12 lives Pac 12 dies where as a few years ago everyone was saying the opposite.
SMU, UConn, and more westward expansion is not happening. If it was, then it would already be done. They only want teams that are currently in the ACC.
Oregon has only been relevant the last 20 years when uncle Phil brought the bike money Washington has 2 national titles and 17 conference titles Oregon doesn’t have the long tradition that Washington does
Miami and BYU also won titles multiple titles back then. A pair of AP titles don’t and 17 conference titles doesn’t mean much of anything in the modern day, especially when Oregon is sitting currently at 14 conference titles and has been on a much stronger as of late
Oregon is the most lucky period! They have horrible academics. They're in a tiny TV market. If they didn't have Phil Knight pouring literally hundreds of millions of dollars into them, they would return to being a nothing school. They need to thank their lucky stars for Phil every single night.
Luck has nothing to do with it. Look up their tv ratings. That’s all there is to it. They continually rank in the top 15 most watched teams in the country. Moving to the B1G wasn’t because the B1G felt bad for Oregon, it’s because they bring in the numbers. Given who they play and the time frame they had to play, those numbers are very impressive. The decision was a business decision for the B1G. Teaming Oregon and Washington against other B1G teams will continue to generate a large audience.
Arizona’s gonna be better in football than you think! Go look at the last three years of recruiting in football? If that’s any indication of how good your team is going to be, they’re gonna be just fine!
I honestly don't get the dick-riding for SMU... they've done NOTHING to deserve a spot for any major conference, let alone the Big XII. They couldn't even win one conference title in the mid majors they were in. They also haven't recruit better than TCU since the 80s, so you can shut that down right now.
?????????????????????? With your reasoning I suppose that the winners and losers for the following events would be: Gettysburg-winners-the South, Waterloo-winners-France, Yorktown-winners-the British. So SMU that got passed over by both the Big 12 and the ACC are winners. And UConn, when a half dozen schools got added to the Big12 and they were passed over are winners? Remind me to play you in poker some time. Would love to see how you play the cards that were dealt to you.
a) The ACC is a loser because of the stress created, but far from one of the biggest losers. b) The 4Cs are big losers because they have been relegated down to the Tier 2.
Really? Name a team that left the BIG XII and has done better. No one. OU/UT have opted for a bigger payday. This extra money will come at the expense of wins. The athletes win because they have lavish facilities and a paycheck. The OU/UT fans lose because their teams will lose more games. Enjoy the SEC!
With a full CFB season completed since the time of this video, my stance on UConn stays the same and I'm glad they've stayed in the Big East (whether it be due to choice or lack of interest). UConn football is NOT good. Like, Storrs is a desolate wasteland and somehow the stadium is still a half hour drive away. Meanwhile, being in the Big East for basketball allows UConn to play TRUE basketball rivals and compete at the highest level in one of the most competitive conferences in NCAAB. After trying SO hard to get back into the big east, leaving for a conference like the Big 12, while it may have some immediate cash incentives, wouldn't do much more than turn the Huskies into cannon fodder on the football field and lower the prestige of their basketball program (If you wanna go to a power basketball school, why would you choose the one in the middle of no where that also has to travel halfway across the country for all its away games?) If UConn really cares about football, PLEASE, make plans for a new stadium on campus (or at least significantly closer)!! Otherwise, stick to what you're good at and stay in the conference made for great basketball schools who... let's just say seem to value football about as much as you TL;DR UConn football sucks and staying in the Big East is the right move for basketball (This season is proving it thus far!)
In terms of money wise, yes, they’re winners but losers in terms they will not make it to any of the playoff games except for Oregon and Washington in Big 10, only Utah has a chance
What happened to Princess Rayen? Is he in a big depression because he was telling everyone how Oregon wouldn't be in the BiG. He really dislikes Uncle Phil..lol He Princess, you probably have some Nike's around somewhere, so put em on and get ready!
What a HORRID artist's representation of Sun Devil Stadium. The view is from the southwest corner, yet we see a sunrise. THEY DON'T PLAY THAT EARLY IN TEMPE!!!!
USC is by far the biggest winner. The pac 12 treated them like crap even though they carried the conference on their back. But who knows, with the B1G do the same thing...
Possibly, but TV revenue will be huge as B1G has both the Maryland/New York area market with Maryland and Rutgers and now California market. If B1G gets at least FSU to get into Florida. They're going for markets
Utah was not a big winner but has completely and officially been relegated to 'mid major' status. Impossible to compete against power 2 with half the funding. That is the reality. B1G killed the PAC and CFB in the process.
@@tarheel7406 concur ... with 2 details: 1 Utah actually tried to play 'big boy' football and is a perennial top 15 team whereas CU, UA, ASU didn't care about losing all the time and 2, I was a fan of the P5 Utes so didn't care about the other 3. 'Was' is due to reality of mid major status imposed by the powers that be ... why support this trash system anymore?
@@timbullough3513 As an outsider, I see UTAH as a model G5 to P5 expansion. Improved athletically and academically. The PAC's failure was not due to UTAH unless it also refused to acknowledge that the PAC was not worth what it was demanding. UTAH was also loyal to the extreme.
@@tarheel7406 Was also in Utah's interests to be loyal.. PAC12 together was probably worth more than B12, pulled up by UCLA and USC. The minute they left the $$s went down.
You clearly don’t understand how much money Washington has. Oregon is so overrated and are not on the rise. Washington and Oregon already play every year, pay attention lol
Under no circumstances should the XII add SMU and/or Memphis, we don't want to water it down any, wait for the ACC collapse and grab 2 to 4 higher quality programs
Both programs are better than Houston, Cincinnati, Arizona, Arizona State, WVU, Iowa State and they wouldn't lose the championship game without trying to win with trick plays
You have zero clue about Washington, their pedigree, and history. They have been the second best team in the PAC 12 for 100 years. The idea that they won’t be able to compete at the same level as their little brothers in Oregon, is ridiculous. You clearly aren’t doing your research. The Huskies did have a rough patch due to poor coaching hires, they’re otherwise back to normal, leading their conference. Rarely did they ever finish below 4th, and mostly were 1st or 2nd. Other than a decade mid 2010’s. They’ll be fine. Lol.
@@jonnybaze7449 really, they almost Threepeated 2016-2018, NY6 all three years, tied the div in 2018, also won it in COVID year, and only had one losing season the last 13 years, and only 7 since 1977. Oh, they’re also top 20 all time in wins and winning percentage. They also have more Rose bowl wins than everyone not USC, Mich or OSU. They also have more Conf titles In the pac 12 than everyone except USC.
@@daddio159 2016… won the conference 2017… didn’t even win the division. 2018… won the conference but the conference was bad that year. Covid year lol? In the pac12? Hahahahaha no, they basically didn’t play. So I can’t tell if you are agreeing with my comment or not lol. A losing season means nothing in the fbs. Teams are basically given three-four automatic wins from fcs, g5 and or bad p5 teams. Not having a losing record is the same as saying they weren’t in the bottom third of 130+ teams. Yea, hence why I put a timeframe on my comment. Umm and? How many teams were in the conference throughout history and how many of those years did the pac 12(etc) have an autobid or essentially an autobid?
@@jonnybaze7449 All-time record 752-463-50 (.614) Bowl record 20-20-1 (.500) Playoff appearances 1 (2016) Playoff record 0-1 Claimed national titles 2 (1960, 1991) Unclaimed national titles 3 (1910, 1984, 1990) Conference titles 17 (1916, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1959, 1960, 1963, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1990-1992, 1995, 2000, 2016, 2018) Division titles 4 (2016, 2017, 2018, 2020) As you can see, they won the division, in 2016, and the Conf, the div in 2017, as I said, and also in 2018 and won the Conf, then in 2020. They’ve also owned the 2nd best overall, and many times the best program, in a conference that Oregon and USC are in. USC has not been as good as Washington over the last 10 years and arguable neither has UO. Also,the PAC 12 has also played 9 Conference teams for like 40+ Years. The point is that these guys licked USC’s and Oregon’s butt, and acted like UW wasn’t one of the teams that compete. Other than OSU, MI, PSU, and USC, Washington is historically the next best team. They had a rough patch, but are back to being themselves, or the B1G wouldn’t have invited them, hello. Do your research and pay attention, or don’t be on shows where you speak of things you know not, that’s the point I was making.
@@jonnybaze7449 I do find it funny that you think the B1G is offering a school you think has been trash for over a decade. Are you like 12, maybe 15? How long have you been watching football?
@@nolessgifted6333 -with which they get paid at the ACC level of $30m/annum. It will be hard to argue with 50M additional reasons to join the B1G, when the Irish get left out of the CFP, and can't bilk NBC for more money. NBC is also a B1G partner. It is just a matter of time before market forces and applied leverage force ND into a conference. Right now, it is the ACC, because of contractual language. If FSU and Clemson find a way to get out of that GOR, the Irish will follow.
@@nolessgifted6333they may not have a choice soon with all teams going to a conference. Chances are they won't be able to play non-conference games, which means Notre Dame will have trouble filling their schedule
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Teams like cincinnati, ucf, Houston and byu could easily have been left out of the shuffle had they not been invited in 21. I'd say they're the biggest winners so far
I agree. I do think that if any of those four schools were available when Colorado made the move and then the dominos all fell in the Pac 12, they’d have found a home in the ACC at least. Cincy and Houston likely would’ve been #1 and #2, maybe even over ASU and Utah for the Big 12. UCF would’ve likely struggled getting into the ACC bc of FSU and Miami, and they could’ve been the one looking from the outside like SDSU is right now.
Winners, but not the biggest. They were elevated, but not to the now dead P5 but rather to the new Tier 2.
@@tarheel7406The big 12 champ will get an autobid in the 12 team playoff fo sho
I think BYU is obviously the cash cow and worth more to the Big12 than the other three here combined. The Pac blew it by turning them away years ago.
Rutgers will always be the biggest winner
Big12 is the biggest winner, just remember where the conference was 2 years, Amazing transformation!
Nope. The measure is from before the TX/OK news. The BIG12 is a loser since it has been relegated down to the new Tier 2.
They are still behind the big 10
The first four teams to go to the Big XII are the biggest winners .
Lol you think Washington is gonna have a drop off? Hooooooly fuck stop it.
Yeeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhhhh Even as a huskies fan idk if we gonna stay strong
Hopefully W. St. & O. St. Get added to The Big 12.
No, they won’t because they might waiting for ACC to implode if the ACC bands together and leave conference but if ACC don’t add teams, you can see the good ACC split into Big 12 and SEC. OSU and Wazzou doesn’t move the needle money wise. That’s why CAL and Stanford isn’t in Big 10
The first 4 b12 adds, especially BYU not on the list? They went from making six or seven or 8 million a year to 32 million a year? Grand slam. And BYU as an independent was looking at a dubious future and scheduling power five opponents. Securing a P5 membership was a raise of about four times the money? Double grand slam. I very much agree with your assessment that the big 12 was a big winner in all of this. They have formed a handsome conference. not as prestigious as the power to, still very attractive and stable. If the ACC crumbles, It sure looks like it might and the big 12 picks up the remnants, they will be a strong power three.
Yes. If things had gone slightly different, BYU could be on the outside looking in and long term looking at a G5 or indie for life.
The other 3 schools big winners as well. Can’t believe they weren’t mentioned
Just found your channel yesterday with that biggest losers video, love your content, I subbed
I found him last summer with his conference realignment context. He's great, but still trying to find his niche despite his name is great. I think he kills it with college football and now sports stadiums/facilities, but he'll often cover a trending topic story which sometimes works (Titanic sub), but many times may not (NFL coverage/entertainment news).
@@heartbreak25I mostly like his content but sometimes it seems too lazily made but something like this is good
Boulder is part of the Denver television market (#16)
So far the Big 10 and the Big 12 are the winners. You are right the Big 10 added more beef but the Big 12 added more parity. The Big 10 still has some programs (Michigan, Ohio, and Pen State) that will run over most programs in the conference in an average season. That does not seem to be the case in the Big 12. There is no one program that will win all the time in football but what they do have is a very competitive conference. I could see a program building up a good team getting into the playoff and then losing their top players to the draft and then having a drop-off the next season and another program taking their place. I do agree that SMU if they play their cards right is in a strong position going forward. They have a lot of booster money to sustain them and now they can't get the Death Penalty like what happened to them in the '80s they could once again emerge on the national scene as a significant football power. They just need to kick in the door to a larger conference.
Ohio St , Penn St , and Michigan will not run over UCLA, USC, Washington, and Oregon something is wrong with your head…
As a Penn Stater, we don't care about conference depth at this point. There was parity putting OSU, UM, and PSU all in the same division and that was stupid to our respective title hopes. We were a top-heavy conference with 3 teams, and now we have at least 6 which is a major win in competing with the SEC. Our goal is to get teams into the top 12 and then win national titles.
Also keep in mind that there are only 4 time windows every Saturday. Noon will always be dominated by the B1G. What will be the top Big 12 matchups to compete against the top SEC and B1G matchups at 3pm and 8pm? As a person who lives in Chicago, most of our bars and restaurants won't turn on Utah vs. TCU if Texas vs. Bama or Michigan vs. Oregon is on TV.
@@heartbreak25 The little 12 is a joke with over 10 schools who have never been ranked number 1 in football that conference is a joke…
@@GeeDee103 With TX and OU leaving, yes, there will be more parity. But other than Colorado which is basically Deion, there are no national brands that I'm going to follow week to week.
I got caught up in the TCU hype last year because they were playing insanely close games and winning, not because I thought they were a legit natty contender. I still think Kansas State was the better overall team last year.
🤣😆🤣😆 "parity"!!
lolz!!!!!!!!!! CFB ain't about "parity"....... it's about winning
I’d wait to add SMU to this list, since they haven’t actually moved yet. They could end up like Boise St and SDSU, never actually being able to make the jump.
COLORADO I would also say is a winner! New Coach-New strong conference👍
Especially since they haven’t done great. Could’ve gone a lot worse for them
I don’t know how you could say SMU is a winner, they needed the PAC to stick together. They will not get into the B12 and they will not get into the ACC.
The B12 added quality teams but you are right no one is touching the B10, they don’t have the money.
The B12 already said they are not adding UCON. They will wait until the ACC breaks up.
Yeah not sure what he is talking about with the SMU / Ucon take. A big winner is WVU, they are just another domino away from getting their rival games back.
I’m a huge Ducks fan and Washington is our rival but I agree to disagree with what you said. Washington is a strong respectable program, I think they’ll do well. They may spend less money but they put strong teams together they’re bought in and play tough. I think they’ll do better in recruiting being in the B1G but this whole video is why I am so interested in the next 5 years. I believe Washington will be a strong top half contender in the coming years, they have good tradition
I'm a Penn Stater and I think Washington and Utah are both perfect B1G teams both in football and academics. Washington won't have Nebraska's problem which is Nebraska didn't produce enough homegrown talent and relied on Texas and Oklahoma for recruits. When they left the Big 12 they lost their recruiting base. Going to the B1G, Washington is still only competing with the same teams for talent that they were before.
The key to the B1G is winning in the trenches. Washington will just have to make sure they're getting bigger and strong on the O-line and D-line because it's hard to win at the skill positions unless you're OSU. And now UM has proven that wrong.
Also, just like the SEC, the B1G is not going to put a team at a scheduling disadvantage that often which is why we got rid of divisions. I'm assuming ORE will be WASH's permanent rival, meaning they'll only play no more than 2 of USC, OSU, UM, and PSU on average every season. The problems will be if they catch streaky teams like Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, and MSU who can always steal wins with strong D and forcing turnovers.
People think because BIG10 teams make the most money that they are better on the field. The top 4 teams in the PAC this year are every bit as good as the best 4 in the BIG10. The BIG10 have 3 good teams, that’s it and TCU just beat their best team. I honestly think the PAC and the B12 are better too to bottom.
However when you all make the move they will be significantly better and I won’t be able to say that.
@@trfisher51 I disagree. PSU was the third ranked team in the B1G last year and smacked the PAC-12 champion.
Since 2020, the PAC-12 teams were 3-7 against the B1G and 0-3 in bowl games. Going back to 2010, they're 36-37 in all games and 10-16 in bowl games.
OSU/UM/PSU are a combined 16-4 against the PAC-12 in regular season and bowl games since 2012. So it's not people saying it, that has just been the record since the B1G and PAC-12 did the last major expansions.
@@heartbreak25 the PAC has been shitty aside from last year. I think UW was probably the best team last year but Utah got to play in the championship game cause of a tie breaker. I think the BIG10 has 3 teams, PSU is the third. I think this year the PAC will be better. Way better QB play. I do think when they add the PAC teams they will be twice as strong but still won’t have that elite team like Georgia but OSU is close and Michigan is good but don’t have the elite level athletes OSU does.
@@trfisher51 I agree that the SEC is still the dominant conference because their best 2 are still better than the B1G's best two. They have a money and geographic (best players live in the southeast) advantage that the B1G other than OSU need to figure out how to overcome.
I think the PAC-12 is going to have great regular season football. I'm definitely going to tune into a ton of their games because of the QB play. I still don't think the best PAC-12 teams can go four quarters with OSU/UM/PSU if both teams are healthy. No PAC-12 team has a top 10 defense while the B1G probably has like 4 and that doesn't even include OSU.
If I had to bet, the PAC-12 teams will do what they did last year and knock each other out of the playoffs. A 2 loss team has never made it and I don't think one will make it this year. I think the playoff teams will come down to UGA, BAMA, LSU, OSU, UM, PSU, CLEM, and FSU. If one PAC-12 team does survive then I'm taking either Oregon or Washington.
Biggest winner Colorado becsuse they're a great fit getting back to their roots.and better recruiting. Oregon and Wash don't fit in the B1G. Sure, money, money, money. How's Rutgers doing?
Washington certainly fits in the B1G (emphasis on football, solid academics and $1.5 billion/yr research). Oregon is less so but they are AAU, they get good TV ratings and Nike's money talks.
I like your videos but you seem to not mention Temple University at all. They are in the fourth largest media market in the country. I hope the AAC and the Pac 4 merge. Could you do a video about Temple in the future? I would love to hear what you think. (I just subscribed.)
Are you from Philly and can provide better insights? I'm a Penn Stater but my understanding has always been that Philly doesn't have an interest in college football. It goes back to the days of Paterno neglecting the city. My outsider take is that Temple in Philly would have the same problem as Stanford in San Francisco, no one cares about the sport.
@@heartbreak25 Do some homework first before engaging in banter.......Philly was THE College Football Town!! Learn about the Penn Quakers!! They attracted far more fans in the stands than the NFL Eagles!! The Penn Quakers are the reason why the Ivy League de-emphasized athletics. Penn blew everyone away!! They had bigger crowds than Penn State back in the day.
USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington football should play each other every year for travel reasons.....therefore I think a maximum of only 1 out of the 4 will play for a BIG championship each year.
Streaming is definitely ethical lol that line was great
Washington, Oregon both will be title contenders Every year in the B1G.
Huh? No they won’t. Oregon will be fighting to be 3-5 consistently and Washington will be allover the place with a ceiling of 3-5.
Yormark has stated that UConn is a expansion target.
Money is killing off the enjoyment of college football.
UCF and Cincinnati become national schools out of this. That's bigger than anything sportswise.
Neither are now national schools. Both stepped to a new Tier 2 from G5 but not to the Tier 1. Winners, but not big winners.
SMU knows how to pay players… it’s the whole reason they got the death penalty before NIL was a thing. Now that it’s legal, they are definitely a sleeping giant. The problem is the Big 12 already has the DFW market w/ TCU, the PAC is no more, and the ACC doesn’t seem to want them. The B1G doesn’t have a presence in Texas, so maybe SMU should apply for AAU status? Idk that’s just me.
Don't forget Iowa and Northwestern. One understands the betting line and the other really knows how to motivate players.
SMU is pushing research hard right now. They are likely looking for AAU status soon. They are making moves in the right direction but time will tell if they actually do it.
Add Texas and Oklahoma....
Are you going to do week zero for college football picks?
I am glad to have Colorado back in the big 12. just would love to see SMU and Tulsa added to the big 12 next year. I honestly think that the big 12 is more interested in making sure their football and basketball programs are solid even if they know they cant compete with the sec and b1g when it comes to the tv deal. Big 12 lives Pac 12 dies where as a few years ago everyone was saying the opposite.
Colorado, the Big 12, the SEC, Washington, Oregon, Yormark, the Big 10.
SMU, UConn, and more westward expansion is not happening. If it was, then it would already be done. They only want teams that are currently in the ACC.
2:12 turns out they did it with 4 teams
Oregon has only been relevant the last 20 years when uncle Phil brought the bike money Washington has 2 national titles and 17 conference titles Oregon doesn’t have the long tradition that Washington does
current relevance is arguably more important anymore
Miami and BYU also won titles multiple titles back then. A pair of AP titles don’t and 17 conference titles doesn’t mean much of anything in the modern day, especially when Oregon is sitting currently at 14 conference titles and has been on a much stronger as of late
Noice video
Did you know USC is building a new baseball stadium and a soccer stadium
Oregon is the most lucky period! They have horrible academics. They're in a tiny TV market. If they didn't have Phil Knight pouring literally hundreds of millions of dollars into them, they would return to being a nothing school. They need to thank their lucky stars for Phil every single night.
Tell us you hate Oregon without telling us you hate Oregon 😂
Luck has nothing to do with it. Look up their tv ratings. That’s all there is to it. They continually rank in the top 15 most watched teams in the country. Moving to the B1G wasn’t because the B1G felt bad for Oregon, it’s because they bring in the numbers. Given who they play and the time frame they had to play, those numbers are very impressive.
The decision was a business decision for the B1G. Teaming Oregon and Washington against other B1G teams will continue to generate a large audience.
Least salty UW fan 😂
Hey man, ASU hockey is at least on the rise
Arizona’s gonna be better in football than you think! Go look at the last three years of recruiting in football? If that’s any indication of how good your team is going to be, they’re gonna be just fine!
I honestly don't get the dick-riding for SMU... they've done NOTHING to deserve a spot for any major conference, let alone the Big XII. They couldn't even win one conference title in the mid majors they were in.
They also haven't recruit better than TCU since the 80s, so you can shut that down right now.
?????????????????????? With your reasoning I suppose that the winners and losers for the following events would be: Gettysburg-winners-the South, Waterloo-winners-France, Yorktown-winners-the British. So SMU that got passed over by both the Big 12 and the ACC are winners. And UConn, when a half dozen schools got added to the Big12 and they were passed over are winners? Remind me to play you in poker some time. Would love to see how you play the cards that were dealt to you.
The biggest losers
1. The PAC 12
2. Fans
3. Oregon State and Washington State
4. The ACC
5. College football as a whole
a) The ACC is a loser because of the stress created, but far from one of the biggest losers.
b) The 4Cs are big losers because they have been relegated down to the Tier 2.
Texas and OU should be on the list
Really? Name a team that left the BIG XII and has done better. No one. OU/UT have opted for a bigger payday. This extra money will come at the expense of wins. The athletes win because they have lavish facilities and a paycheck. The OU/UT fans lose because their teams will lose more games. Enjoy the SEC!
Why? They had a good position in a conference and now are gonna be mid level teams in the sec
@@doninkansas-jr5yw TX/OK remain Tier 1 and now have more games of high fan interest. Winners.
Nah, streaming is better. Cheaper than going to a bar for every game.
Ratings are worse no casual viewers
With a full CFB season completed since the time of this video, my stance on UConn stays the same and I'm glad they've stayed in the Big East (whether it be due to choice or lack of interest). UConn football is NOT good. Like, Storrs is a desolate wasteland and somehow the stadium is still a half hour drive away. Meanwhile, being in the Big East for basketball allows UConn to play TRUE basketball rivals and compete at the highest level in one of the most competitive conferences in NCAAB. After trying SO hard to get back into the big east, leaving for a conference like the Big 12, while it may have some immediate cash incentives, wouldn't do much more than turn the Huskies into cannon fodder on the football field and lower the prestige of their basketball program (If you wanna go to a power basketball school, why would you choose the one in the middle of no where that also has to travel halfway across the country for all its away games?)
If UConn really cares about football, PLEASE, make plans for a new stadium on campus (or at least significantly closer)!! Otherwise, stick to what you're good at and stay in the conference made for great basketball schools who... let's just say seem to value football about as much as you
TL;DR UConn football sucks and staying in the Big East is the right move for basketball (This season is proving it thus far!)
BRUH
In terms of money wise, yes, they’re winners but losers in terms they will not make it to any of the playoff games except for Oregon and Washington in Big 10, only Utah has a chance
What happened to Princess Rayen?
Is he in a big depression because he was telling everyone how Oregon wouldn't be in the BiG.
He really dislikes Uncle Phil..lol
He Princess, you probably have some Nike's around somewhere, so put em on and get ready!
The big outdated number 😤
SMU does not recruit better than TCU.
Not even close.
What a HORRID artist's representation of Sun Devil Stadium. The view is from the southwest corner, yet we see a sunrise. THEY DON'T PLAY THAT EARLY IN TEMPE!!!!
Looks like a view from the northeast at dusk. THEY DONT PLAY FOOTBALL EVER IN TEMPE!!!!!
I feel like Uconn is a loser. They were so close getting into the Big 12 and just didn't make it.
USC is by far the biggest winner. The pac 12 treated them like crap even though they carried the conference on their back. But who knows, with the B1G do the same thing...
The SEC is by far the biggest winner. USC remains Tier 1 but has diluted regionality and taken on huge travel expenses.
Possibly, but TV revenue will be huge as B1G has both the Maryland/New York area market with Maryland and Rutgers and now California market. If B1G gets at least FSU to get into Florida. They're going for markets
@@brianoneil6920
a) California is a declining market for college football
b) The evidence suggests no B1G interest in FSU. More likely MIAMI.
Texas and Ou won too …….that 2024 SEC schedule is awesome
All those teams won in my book!
😂🤣😂
You mean a very boring schedule of both teams getting destroyed the SEC? I’d love to see how that goes 😂
Utah was not a big winner but has completely and officially been relegated to 'mid major' status. Impossible to compete against power 2 with half the funding. That is the reality. B1G killed the PAC and CFB in the process.
Agreed. You can only think with so much less $s coming in they fall back from the schools heading to the B1G.
Agreed, same for all of 4Cs and BIG12 remainders. Things could have been worse, but still losers overall.
@@tarheel7406 concur ... with 2 details: 1 Utah actually tried to play 'big boy' football and is a perennial top 15 team whereas CU, UA, ASU didn't care about losing all the time and 2, I was a fan of the P5 Utes so didn't care about the other 3. 'Was' is due to reality of mid major status imposed by the powers that be ... why support this trash system anymore?
@@timbullough3513 As an outsider, I see UTAH as a model G5 to P5 expansion. Improved athletically and academically. The PAC's failure was not due to UTAH unless it also refused to acknowledge that the PAC was not worth what it was demanding.
UTAH was also loyal to the extreme.
@@tarheel7406 Was also in Utah's interests to be loyal.. PAC12 together was probably worth more than B12, pulled up by UCLA and USC. The minute they left the $$s went down.
You clearly don’t understand how much money Washington has. Oregon is so overrated and are not on the rise. Washington and Oregon already play every year, pay attention lol
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As a Houston Almunus/Fan, I would LOVE to have SMU in the Big 12....and Memphis
Under no circumstances should the XII add SMU and/or Memphis, we don't want to water it down any, wait for the ACC collapse and grab 2 to 4 higher quality programs
Both schools are sleeping giants.
Will never happen unless TCU or BU move on. They offer nothing.
Both programs are better than Houston, Cincinnati, Arizona, Arizona State, WVU, Iowa State and they wouldn't lose the championship game without trying to win with trick plays
@@quartermaster1976 Both programs? You are not saying SMU and Memphis are better than all those programs ?
You have zero clue about Washington, their pedigree, and history. They have been the second best team in the PAC 12 for 100 years. The idea that they won’t be able to compete at the same level as their little brothers in Oregon, is ridiculous. You clearly aren’t doing your research. The Huskies did have a rough patch due to poor coaching hires, they’re otherwise back to normal, leading their conference. Rarely did they ever finish below 4th, and mostly were 1st or 2nd. Other than a decade mid 2010’s. They’ll be fine. Lol.
They’ve been trash the majority of years for over a decade in a conference that’s been wide open
@@jonnybaze7449 really, they almost Threepeated 2016-2018, NY6 all three years, tied the div in 2018, also won it in COVID year, and only had one losing season the last 13 years, and only 7 since 1977. Oh, they’re also top 20 all time in wins and winning percentage. They also have more Rose bowl wins than everyone not USC, Mich or OSU. They also have more Conf titles
In the pac 12 than everyone except USC.
@@daddio159 2016… won the conference 2017… didn’t even win the division. 2018… won the conference but the conference was bad that year. Covid year lol? In the pac12? Hahahahaha no, they basically didn’t play. So I can’t tell if you are agreeing with my comment or not lol.
A losing season means nothing in the fbs. Teams are basically given three-four automatic wins from fcs, g5 and or bad p5 teams. Not having a losing record is the same as saying they weren’t in the bottom third of 130+ teams.
Yea, hence why I put a timeframe on my comment.
Umm and? How many teams were in the conference throughout history and how many of those years did the pac 12(etc) have an autobid or essentially an autobid?
@@jonnybaze7449
All-time record
752-463-50 (.614)
Bowl record
20-20-1 (.500)
Playoff appearances
1 (2016)
Playoff record
0-1
Claimed national titles
2 (1960, 1991)
Unclaimed national titles
3 (1910, 1984, 1990)
Conference titles
17 (1916, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1959, 1960, 1963, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1990-1992, 1995, 2000, 2016, 2018)
Division titles
4 (2016, 2017, 2018, 2020)
As you can see, they won the division, in 2016, and the Conf, the div in 2017, as I said, and also in 2018 and won the Conf, then in 2020. They’ve also owned the 2nd best overall, and many times the best program, in a conference that Oregon and USC are in. USC has not been as good as Washington over the last 10 years and arguable neither has UO. Also,the PAC 12 has also played 9
Conference teams for like 40+
Years. The point is that these guys licked USC’s and Oregon’s butt, and acted like UW wasn’t one of the teams that compete. Other than OSU, MI, PSU, and USC, Washington is historically the next best team. They had a rough patch, but are back to being themselves, or the B1G wouldn’t have invited them, hello. Do your research and pay attention, or don’t be on shows where you speak of things you know not, that’s the point I was making.
@@jonnybaze7449 I do find it funny that you think the B1G is offering a school you think has been trash for over a decade. Are you like 12, maybe 15? How long have you been watching football?
Biggest winner big 10 they gonna end up with notre dame Florida state and Miami
No they’re not. You underestimate Notre Dame’s strong since of Independence.
@@nolessgifted6333 -with which they get paid at the ACC level of $30m/annum. It will be hard to argue with 50M additional reasons to join the B1G, when the Irish get left out of the CFP, and can't bilk NBC for more money. NBC is also a B1G partner. It is just a matter of time before market forces and applied leverage force ND into a conference. Right now, it is the ACC, because of contractual language. If FSU and Clemson find a way to get out of that GOR, the Irish will follow.
@@nolessgifted6333they may not have a choice soon with all teams going to a conference. Chances are they won't be able to play non-conference games, which means Notre Dame will have trouble filling their schedule
Oregon is headed for a fall💩🤡