Water in outboard trim tilt hydraulic oil

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  • In this video I look at fixing an outboard trim tilt motor that has water in the hydraulic oil. This covers cleaning out the old oil and resealing the unit against further water contamination.
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  • @brad-5640
    @brad-5640 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I want to say THANK YOU... I'be never worked on boats, trim motors or anything like this before. But I wanted to do this myself & save money. Long story short, I bought a boat, trim didnt work. Replaced with a new trim tilt motor, replaced fluids & NOTHING. Watched EVERY TH-cam video possible & couldnt figure it out. Then I seen you video this morning (3 weeks since replacing trim motor) noticed the coupler for the shaft. And say "hey I seen 1 of those in the back of the boat" ran outside slapped it on & BOOM it works like a charm.. So again THANK YOU for the info.. HUGE HELP..

  • @AndysDogHouse
    @AndysDogHouse 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos. You have taught me a lot. My trim was not working last summer and when I brought it home it started working but pumped water out of the top of the piston.
    Time for new seals. I see there is one thing you and I have in common and that is having a cold one on the work bench. Cheers

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Andy, good luck with the seal replacement, be sure to give it a good flush before putting fresh oil in too.

  • @troywayne8759
    @troywayne8759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still can't get over how your videos have gone through EVERY part of an outboard. I had a 2 stroke that you helped me bring back to life. Now I have a Nissan 4 stroke which I picked up for a great deal! I'm about to pull the trim tilt and it needs some work for sure! Seals/O-rings and probably some electric motor work like your other video... but first I get to figure out how to unbend the rod! yikes!

  • @moonpiespotlight4759
    @moonpiespotlight4759 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just a tip: Cut some pieces from an old car tire to use as grippers for your vise. That will allow you to tighten without cracking the housing.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice tip. I need to setup a second vice somewhere soon so I might make one for delicate work and the other for metal work.

    • @robertferraiuolo2322
      @robertferraiuolo2322 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moonpie Spotlight play time to start

  • @chrissurubi
    @chrissurubi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Muy bueno tu vídeo desde Argentina gracias

  • @Jt-cc9qz
    @Jt-cc9qz ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir, what would we do without you?!

  • @siamsummer9426
    @siamsummer9426 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for the Video. I topped up my Hyd Fluid yesterday for the first time. 2009 Suz DF140. Got the back pressure spray all over me :-). Is there a way I can completely drain the old fluid out and start fresh without taking anything apart or off ?? Cheers H

  • @jerrysmith4461
    @jerrysmith4461 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, my issue is that motor tilts down no problem but going up takes a long time. I tried adding oil but it seems to be full to the plug level.

  • @aarondrayton5160
    @aarondrayton5160 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    G’day from Coffs Harbour bloke. I’m having trouble starting with an empty fresh rebuilt tilt and trim. Filling the hydraulics from dead empty and bleeding on a 94 mercury mariner single ram I haven’t replaced the manual tilt screw and o rings.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Generally you just open the bypass screw and then lift the motor up and let gravity drop it down again about five times. I would then lock off the bypass and try to lift it from the switch. If it doesn't work, lift it up, top up the fluid again and repeat.

  • @GalloOutdoors
    @GalloOutdoors ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know what the O ring size is that you replaced under the fluid reservoir? 4:24

  • @downdirty8543
    @downdirty8543 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need your help! I just purchased a 2000 Johnson 40hp. Runs beautiful but tr won’t go up. I did get it to lower. I loosened the drain screw this morning again to find that the spring and little plastic (orange) looking thing are gone. The must have blown out pst me and I’ve looked everywhere. What is their purpose? Can I get by without them.

  • @tonybarker2123
    @tonybarker2123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question. I rebuilt the rams. But when I give the motor gas fast the motor pushes the trin back down to the transit. Would it be the motor or the pump 🤔? Like it's not keeping the pressure in the same spot

  • @playasurf1000
    @playasurf1000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    exactly the info I need! now to find a o-ring kit for my mariner 115. so much water gets in it wont lift at all at times

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +playasurf1000 Glad the video helped. :)

  • @hawkeyemarine
    @hawkeyemarine 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice! I have to do an old Mercury this week. That one is not so fun.

  • @Parasportkorsoer
    @Parasportkorsoer ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. Nice video. what is the number on the seelingset you use? I can't find it.

  • @terryhites7322
    @terryhites7322 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your videos. thanks

  • @98fishingfool
    @98fishingfool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I took the motor off my trim/tilt and the piece that mounts to the motor to turn the pump came out but also looks like it had a broken spring, nothing was loose, any idea ?

  • @edmonddiulgerian7559
    @edmonddiulgerian7559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stu,Greetings from Canada ,Thanks for the video,my t/t motor works and stops after 10 -15 seconds works again ...and stops again and again ..water in the oil or circuit breaker or ...????? Thanks

  • @alykotituotteet
    @alykotituotteet ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you find the O-ring? Honda sells the full valve at ridiculous price! :D

  • @hunternelson6384
    @hunternelson6384 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you remove the the cap on the inside of the pump with the 3 bolts to clean it out?

  • @solo022667
    @solo022667 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I have a yr 2000 mercury 150 hp 2 stroke.
    Need to replace tilt motor because it had hold in the back from a rust.
    Original part is $400 and after market from amazon was $80
    Do you think it’s okay to use aftermarket tilt motor ? Thanks

  • @andyspymaker2418
    @andyspymaker2418 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Stu
    Really enjoying your how to videos
    I knew nothing about boats till i started watching your videos from leaning to drive a boat through to fixing the out board. You have taught me well. Thank You.
    I have one question that i can't find the answer to. When i raise my engine with the tilt it works no probs i can stop it half way ect. The problem is when i go to lower it once it starts to go down i cant stop it till it hits the bottom. It does not free fall but goes down around the same speed as it rises. I cant figure out what is happening with it, Its a Johnson v4 85hp. A true 1980 Classic.
    Any ideas on what could be wrong ??
    Cheers Andy

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Andy, glad to hear the vids have been helping you. Can you hear the motor running when it is going down. If so it sounds like a sticking relay. If not it sounds like a sticking valve or a bad seal inside the hydraulic unit. The relay can just be replaced but the hydraulic problem would involve pulling it completely apart and inspecting each component.

    • @andyspymaker2418
      @andyspymaker2418 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will have a look at the weekend i'm not sure if it was running or not. I will keep you updated. i have watched the relay build you did so that wont be a problem to build a new circuit. if it is the pump well that will have to be a shot in the dark as to if i can fix it or not. One last question how long does it take for Dangar t shirt to reach Scotland ?
      If i need to rebuild the pump i may as well video it. So no better time to order a T and wear it while i do the rebuild :)
      Thanks again mate for All the videos and help

  • @timheenan5655
    @timheenan5655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I am out the two leads to the pump motor what should I get?

  • @tandrik6297
    @tandrik6297 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G'day Stu, Thanks for the videos mate your an absoloute legend! Just a quick one, did you ever end up making the video for pulling the gear pump apart and servicing it? I looked on your page but couldn't seem to find it. Thanks again for all the uploads ya gun!

  • @mgerrand
    @mgerrand 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Firstly your a Legend Stu, your video's have been hugely valuable with my Johnson 1993 50hp engine. I have a question my tilt system wasn't allowing the engine to be lifted all the way up and a friend of mine used some brake fluid to top it up and is now working again, but have since learn that I should have used ATF or tilt fluid, should I be worried about the mix of fluids in there? Should I try and drain it all out and start again? Will the brake fluid cause any damage? Thanks :-)

    • @atran5
      @atran5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Matt. Did you ever get an answer on this? I just did the same but with power steering fluid. Also if you had to drain it, how did you do it?

  • @arthurvandongen2
    @arthurvandongen2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi bice video i have a DIFFERENT PROBLEM WHEN I GO DRIVE MI BOOT AND I WNAT TO TRIM MI MOTOR ITS GOING TO A POSITION AND THAN ITS GOES A BIT AND VALS DAWN AGAIN NOT COMPLEET JUST TO THE LAST PONT WHAT CAN BE THE PROBLEM ?

  • @C1iffBurton
    @C1iffBurton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    STU, can you explain how the oil gets from the resivour with the orange cap (spelling), down to the pump or whatnot? i always thought you filled the bowl up at the screw above the bypass screw you took out. which i think only fills up where the pump is at. correct me if i'm wrong. i want to understand the system as much as possible as i work through my issues with mine
    thank you, love the videos

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is probably something better shown that put into words I think. I'll do a video where I fully dismantle on of these units soon but the short version is that is a little drain hole that runs down towards the pump. the bulk of the oil is in the piston bore when the ram is up, so that reservoir takes the oil while it is down, passing it through that passage to the pump as it goes up.

  • @luketurnbull3712
    @luketurnbull3712 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video. Trying to understand the system on a BF25 and I guess it's the same system. Our fault is that there is leaking fluid during the tilt part of the operation, but not trim. Do you know if there are any videos of the piston being overhauled?

  • @DangarMarine
    @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rafael. TH-cam won't let me reply to your comment. Do you have a Google+ account? Try turning the bypass screw then lifting the motor up and down four or five times by hand then toping up the oil level while it is in the up position. Next close the bypass screw and operate it using the switch again.

    • @captainrafybahamonde4820
      @captainrafybahamonde4820 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi and thanks for your fast Replay,were is the bypass screw.my Email is cubanrafy@gmail.com.
      Thanks.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is on the side of the trim tilt unit down low. You will access it through a hole in the mounting bracket.

    • @captainrafybahamonde4820
      @captainrafybahamonde4820 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks i found and i release the screw and i pum up and dow 10 times and the only ones go up hard is the 2 small one,the big one go up bt luck like is little air on, no leak are on . How can i make this go up harder ?.
      One more time Thanks

    • @captainrafybahamonde4820
      @captainrafybahamonde4820 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dangar thanks for your Help look like the use transmission fluid before,i m going to replace all fluid we hydraulic fluid,and i m going to star over,is any way how can i drain the hole system ?
      Thanks.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That bypass screw is usually held in by a circlip so if you remove that clip you should be able to wind it all the way out. Also, if you open the fill hole with the motor up then let it drop down it will push a fair amount out, but be careful, it can squirt quite a distance! You can then suck the remained out through the fill hole with a turkey baster or a syringe with a bit of hose attached.

  • @drmarine1771
    @drmarine1771 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your reply, all points you mentioned appear ok ? there is no visual leaks.
    I'll see how i go.?
    Thank you again,
    Cheers .......

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Danny Skok If the cylinder seals are leaking it will be an internal leak, just oil passing the piston and going back into the reservoir. I'll be doing a video on replacing those in early April.

    • @drmarine1771
      @drmarine1771 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you , look forward to watching it,
      Have a great day. Thank's again for your help.
      PS If ever your in Melbourne call in for a beer.
      Cheers.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds good, always up for a beet. ;)

  • @yusufdemirdover2527
    @yusufdemirdover2527 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Merhaba mercury 30 efi tilt trim spare part yedek parça ihtiyacım var

  • @martinpurcell9247
    @martinpurcell9247 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stu
    I have the same t/tilt unit my unit is leaking at the base of the oil tank just under the plastic screw can you tell me how to strip down to get at the seals

  • @captainrafybahamonde4820
    @captainrafybahamonde4820 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i need help on my yamaha 2 stroke 90 HP 1999 power trim bleed i replace my trim motor we the after market one, buy from ebay the motor was install fine by me, and wen i fill the tank we the fluid to make work dont go up,only the 2 piston go up not the one on the center,this issue make me little crazy,Any help please.
    Thanks.

  • @jodygucwa8892
    @jodygucwa8892 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video. thanks

  • @mikee4216
    @mikee4216 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2003 Johnson 4 stroke model J50PL4ST and water is getting into the t&t pump. Johnson only offers and I have purchased, an o-ring set that has two large o-rings for the pump motor and the ram cover. Also there are three smaller o-rings that are used on the pump itself. The unit is made by Showa. While watching your excellent video, I noticed that the t&t unit is almost identical to mine. I was wondering if yours is a Showa and if the seal for the ram cover would work on my Johnson. Also, what did you use to wash out your pump? Thanks for your help.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mike. I'd have to have a look what pump it was. It belongs to a friend but I am going to be getting it back soon as I think the impeller itself may have suffered some damage from the water. These days I've been using aftermarket seals. I've found a shop down the road where I take the original seal and he will give me a seal for a couple of dollars that is a perfect match. The only thing to be careful of is that not all seals come with stainless steel springs in them. In this case he will remove the spring, measure it and give me a nitrile o-ring of the same size to replace it with. This ends up costing $3 instead of $15. To wash the pump I used brake cleaner. Methylated spirits is good for removing water.

    • @mikee4216
      @mikee4216 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the quick reply. Wish I could find a shop close by with the aftermarket parts but nothing close by me in the USA, South Carolina. I still feel that my Johnson pump and the Honda pump in the video are the same units. I looked up the parts lists for both on Boats.net and there is a huge difference in pricing. Johnson lists the part you put the seal into as a tank with a cost of $143.61. Honda lists
      the same looking part as an oil tank for $9.19 without the seal. The seal is another $10.42. I have my t&t off the motor and I'm going to take it to a Honda dealer and compare to theirs. Hopefully they will be the same.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. Let me know how you get on.

    • @mikee4216
      @mikee4216 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ordered the ram wiper seal from Honda for the T&T oil tank on my 2003 Johnson 4 stroke. It is the same seal that you show in the package in this video. I got the o-rings from Johnson for the tank and tilt motor. I cleaned the old oil from my unit, installed seal and o-rings and it works great. Thanks for your video. It really saved me a bundle of money,
      Mike

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice work Mike, glad you got it fixed up. Enjoy your time on the water! :)

  • @Sepi621
    @Sepi621 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greetings from Finland! I have a Honda BF30D6 engine and it has exactly the same pump as your video. I have one question for you. I opened that biggest plug and the inner parts dropped out and they got mixed up. Here's a picture of them: photos.app.goo.gl/4BGK74LB2cRCpWzt6 . Should the parts be in the position shown in the picture? Or is there something in the wrong direction?

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That looks about right from memory, but I've had that exact problem myself in the past. To figure it out I found an exploded diagram for the engine which showed the correct assembly orientation.

  • @kenpham1818
    @kenpham1818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw my trim tilt oil is milky. Is it mean water got in? I m new. Just bought a used boat. I hear the motor sound when i press the up button but when i press the down button i just hear the click.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that means water in the oil. Try swapping the relays over and see if the problem reverses. If so you just need a new relay, if not check wiring.

  • @raymondminks1772
    @raymondminks1772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe Honda Bond to hold that cap in. Cheers.

  • @Nightlifeimages
    @Nightlifeimages 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just installed a new trim motor on my 75 mariner a few weeks ago. Noticed an oil leak around the base. Looks like it coming out from where the trim motor sits on the plate.
    Seen this before?

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it's very easy to have the o-ring not seat properly. A lot of the local mechanics around here put sealant on the flange too for a double seal, just make sure not to let any get into the oil.

    • @Nightlifeimages
      @Nightlifeimages 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DangarMarine Thanks for the info. Keen for the next video cheers

  • @skinnyguy3184
    @skinnyguy3184 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate, could you explain what the two balls do in the gear pump? I am retro fitting the motor, pump and resivor to another ram

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's my understanding that they act as one-way valves.

  • @drmarine1771
    @drmarine1771 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Again a great vid.
    Just one question, what would cause the trim to drop slowly ? about 10mm over an hour. oil is at right level and air has been bled out.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Danny Skok Make sure the bypass valve is screwed all the way in tight, it might be leaking a little bit. Otherwise, could possibly be the ram seals leaking. Also, with the motor trimmed all the way up check the rod for corrosion or pitting as that will cause oil to leak past the seals even if they are good.

  • @waynebrett4200
    @waynebrett4200 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. I just watched your channel. I have question about my 1988 Johnson 80horse outboard.It starts great, but when you accelerate, the motor only runs at about 3900 to 4200 rpms should be around 5200. All new electric parts. 20 ft. pontoon, prop is 11 pitch. any help Thanks

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Wayne. Has the boat previously run at 5200 with that prop?

  • @islandlife4141
    @islandlife4141 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video helped, can you tell me how to get the bypass screw out if it is split at the scredriver hold. Meaning I cant get a screwdriver on it.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'll have to drill it and use an easy out or something like that.

  • @Whitboxphotohk
    @Whitboxphotohk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:50 putting the plastic seal back in, I did this a few months ago and it didn't hold, I try different glue, about to try again. Did you ever make the video about rebuilding the hydrolic ram unit?? Thanks for the awesome videos :)

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't done a video on the ram yet, but thank you for reminding me I need to get around to it. I have a couple of spare ones in the shop at the moment.

    • @Whitboxphotohk
      @Whitboxphotohk 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate, look forward to it. Would you happen to have a second hand trim unit for a Honda 50' to sell? Mine is corroded and quickest way to get my boat back in the water is to throw some $ at it :(

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one that I think would fit, but unfortunately I am missing the bypass valve from it and that part is discontinued from Honda. If your unit has the exact same valve (depending on year) we may be able to make one working one out of the two.

  • @diegorampin7825
    @diegorampin7825 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compliments for this video but to load the tank oil serves remove the electric Motor? What kind of oil you used? Thanks

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you can fill the oil through a cap with the motor in place. There is special trim tilt oil you can buy from boat stores that is made for these units.

  • @douglasbunn166
    @douglasbunn166 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having an issue,,top off my trim fluid..works fine out of water and at low speed,,but once I throttle motor up my tilt doesn't work.. can trim into desired position but fall back down once I throttle up(if that makes sense).. watched several of your videos about trim/tilt but none cover this issue..it's a Evinrude

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a leaning seal in either the piston or the bypass valve.

    • @douglasbunn166
      @douglasbunn166 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DangarMarine Ive watch a few video on replacing/rebuilding tilt Orings and was considering going that route but them few post etc said consider accuator valve in trim

  • @homarkbeer
    @homarkbeer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is all tilt mechanism the same or there are differences between them?!!

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They all work on the same basic principles just with a slightly valve configuration sometimes.

  • @pimpshack81
    @pimpshack81 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Stu ...On my tilt and trim it works but if I raise the outboard up it slowly drops back down... is this a major problem or could it be a simple fix ?

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can be a few things. First thing I would do is make sure the manual bypass is fully closed. You can even try opening it and then fully closing it again. If they doesn't work you can try removing it completely and then replacing the seals on it. If it still drops you will need to replace the seals inside the hydraulic ram.

  • @Nalcas88
    @Nalcas88 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial! I have the same system and problem but I don t know what tilt trim system I got. I only know it s the same as you show here. Can you please give me the parts numbers to buy them.
    Thanks in advance!

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure what the part numbers are, but I got the bits from our local Honda dealer just down the road.

    • @Nalcas88
      @Nalcas88 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I will check that. Honda pump.

  • @catfishcoop13
    @catfishcoop13 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently working on my own trim unit. I've found that the little key that you talked about that goes from the motor to the pump does not turn easily in the pump. Is there any way to free that up?

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you have water in the oil? It is probably as corrosion problem inside the pump. Disassembling and cleaning is probably the way to go. Will be doing a video on that soon.

    • @catfishcoop13
      @catfishcoop13 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes there was water in the oil. Cleaned every bit I could get into. Thanks, and I look forward to the video!

  • @Stevenpsaila86
    @Stevenpsaila86 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou for your very informative Videos as always! I have the same problem with my Tohatsu M40D2 Power trim and tilt, and it looks exactly like this Honda's PTT. I have removed the reservoir tank oil seal as you mentioned and it is the same as the one you changed - Green colour, same numbers printed on seal. Do you suggest I buy the Honda seal? Since Tohatsu do not offer the seal on it's own (you have to buy the whole reservoir tank for 120 dollars plus shipping!!!) thankyou once again!

    • @davidbeard1115
      @davidbeard1115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most oil seals have a part number. As you can see lots of manufacturers use the same seals. The seal part number is the key. Honda buys the same seal that you can buy.

    • @alexdominguez1795
      @alexdominguez1795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm in the same boat as you. Did you replace the seal and if so how did it work out?

  • @kreigdernier9553
    @kreigdernier9553 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever done a vid on a honda trim seals leaking. If not what kind of tool do you use to get the end caps off? I see alot of guys chiselling theses things that can’t be the only way...

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Kreig. I have done a video on some Honda trim tilt seals, I think this was the one th-cam.com/video/n0WsNGyGlV0/w-d-xo.html I do want to do a video on the other piston seals too one day soon. These guys sell a variety of face spanners for removing the top caps of trim tilt units, but unfortunately they aren't cheap, I guess that's why many people just chisel them off marinetechtools.com/

    • @kreigdernier9553
      @kreigdernier9553 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dangar Marine thanks i was having trouble removing the end caps but managed to Frankenstein a tool. Will watch for the rest thanks again

  • @roslanhamdan1102
    @roslanhamdan1102 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a video show how to change the oil ring power trim for mariner 115??

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, not yet. Planning to do more vids on power trim tilts though soon.

    • @roslanhamdan1102
      @roslanhamdan1102 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      cant wait ...😊😊😊

  • @MrCharrrles
    @MrCharrrles 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    my tilt trim motor is separate to the unit itself with tubes running to it, is that unusual?

  • @tolgahk84
    @tolgahk84 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent video by you Stu, full of heaps of technical knowhow, well done. I just got my boat back from repairs by having my hydraulic t&t pump replaced as the old one was completely dead, it could probably be repaired but the one which replaced it was gotten at an excellent price which i couldnt say no to and gave me a chance to get the boat going again.
    A question though Stu, the guy who replaced my t&t pump also installed my bilge pump however the outlet he's drilled a hole in the side of my boat and run the outlet to the hose, i really dont remember if the location where he's put the bilge outlet was sitting below the waterline or not so i really have to take my boat to a ramp one of these weekends just to test it out make sure no water gets in, do you know of any really quiet/empty boat ramps around Sydney where i wouldnt be disturbing anybody spending a couple of hours with testing the boat on the trailer? My closest boat ramp is at Chipping Norton however it gets pretty packed out at times not to mention its a single size ramp where im 100% sure i would be giving people the shits by me testing my boat out.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +tolgahk84 Hi Mate. I would be very surprised if your bilge pump outlet was below the water line. That is a mistake that no profession would make. I'm not that familiar with boat ramps south of Sydney, but the boat ramp in Brooklyn at Parsley Bay that I use is very quiet during the week.

  • @FernandoDIY
    @FernandoDIY 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I got 81 model johnson 70hp .my trims have started leaking fluid but my tilt is good that was last week, this week my tilt is making horrible noises not sure if air got in. i tried to bleed it filling it up with fluid but noise still there. the sounds it makes is like an old rusted hinge ROFL very loud any help, please

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It could be a problem with the pivot points being corroded so your hinge theory might be right.

    • @FernandoDIY
      @FernandoDIY 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the reply.
      I have serviced it, grease all the places that have grease nipples.
      the noise comes from inside the tilt ram, I place my hand on it and I can feel the vibration coming from it.
      LOL now I'm paranoid it could be the ram top joint where the pin goes throw I will check it.
      anyway, mate love your show, I'm a big fan keep up with good work. I wish you had a video on how to replace seals and remove end caps on a motor like mine.i always take my boat to Brooklyn not far from you.all the best

    • @FernandoDIY
      @FernandoDIY 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      update it is the top ram joint.
      been spraying wd40 letting it sit for 1h then I tilt the motor up/down.
      done it few times the noise has improved.I think the best way is to remove
      the pin clean all and regrease it but the pin doesn't budge

  • @muzikmanernie
    @muzikmanernie 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to change the hydraulic oil on certain period of time or only when it malfunctions.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Val M It more important to keep it topped up that to replace it. In fact there isn't any quick way to drain the old fluid out like there is with a sump or a gearbox. By topping it up every 100 hours (or annually) you'll be able to see if you are losing oil or have water in the oil and need to do the seals. Hydraulic fluid doesn't absorb water like brake fluid and doesn't get dirty like sump oil. I'm sure there must be some practical limit to its lifespan but I would be more likely to use a pump to fill the reservoir and just displace a bit of the old oil each time to keep it fresh.

    • @muzikmanernie
      @muzikmanernie 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dangar…you are awesome, thanks for the quick response…enjoy your day!

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have a great day too. :)

  • @momakmomakovic2091
    @momakmomakovic2091 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello friend,thanks for your videos.
    I have question.
    My Evinrude 40 hp 2 stroke ELO engine,I think it is from 1990+, manual tilt assist has got water in it!
    Is it posible to repair it ,or do I have to buy ny replacment?
    Thanks

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, good question, I don't deal with many of those, I always assumed they were a gas strut of some type. I do have one in the workshop at the moment though so I'll take a look at it during the week. Might make an interesting video.

    • @momakmomakovic2091
      @momakmomakovic2091 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please do so.It would be nice to now if those units can be repaired if we can get parts for it? Thanks for your time.

  • @theheilious
    @theheilious 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question for you: I have reviewed everything you have posted about trim ram systems (and a few other people's posts) but I am not seeing my particular issue: Trim motor and pump go up and down well but it will not stay trimmed when the boat is under way and under power. It was suggested to check the manual bypass. When I did, there wasn't much give in the tightening direction. So I opened the bypass until the motor dropped down under it's own weight and tightened it again to re-seat the bypass valve. I think the only way to test it is to launch the boat and put it under way again? ...or is there another way to test it? How else can I test it out of the water and what else should I be considering as the problem if it fails under way testing when I put the boat back in the water next March or April?
    PS: Thanks for everything you do here, brother! You have saved my @ss several times now....

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi mate. I'm going to be doing a video on this problem very soon. It can be either the seals / o-rings around the bypass valves or the seal around the hydraulic ram. If that seal is failing then oil can bypass the piston and it start to drop, much like worn rings causing a motor to lose compression.

    • @charlier6877
      @charlier6877 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DangarMarine Did you ever do the video on this issue?

  • @jerrychf
    @jerrychf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I jump back to this video today because my Yamaha F115 trim seal should be problem. I replace it last year with new seal but hammered out of trim cylinder head, it seems okay just the surface maybe not good look, but it still fit into new seal.
    But after a year now it just leaking from seal once again. The thing I notice was those seal should be 2 of them, one was sit inside of the cylinder head another one should be you can outside, but in the parts book not very clear the inside seal direction, but I just installed into the cylinder head and works about a year.
    Any suggestion? or just change the whole cylinder head and seal? Thanks.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If seals are leaking after a year it could be that the shaft that runs through the seal either has some pitting that allows water to bypass the seal or some burrs that are cutting the seal. I would check it closely for that.

    • @jerrychf
      @jerrychf 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, I had take out those seal and found some fishing line balls in it, it stick pretty hard to the shaft, and it should be the problem damage to the seals.
      After I order two seal and using your hack way to replaced them and also the oil, I tried the boat yesterday it runs great once again.
      Thanks for your video, it always help!

    • @jerrychf
      @jerrychf 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/vlScNhn3q6I/w-d-xo.html
      She's run well ;)

  • @FernandoDIY
    @FernandoDIY 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how many ML of hydrolic oil does tilt and trim take?

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure how much it takes to fill them. The service manual doesn't give you a capacity just says to fill until it overflows when the motor is all the way up.

    • @FernandoDIY
      @FernandoDIY 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have drained the system made sure I have no water in it.
      oil is clean, the amount that came out is 300ml, I think it might take a bit more maybe 400ml cause my seals are leaking

  • @sjvan2
    @sjvan2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great vid thanks ...

  • @kreigdernier9553
    @kreigdernier9553 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it necessary to remove the outboard from the boat?

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not always, sometimes you can just undo one side of the transom mount and pull it aside to get the trim til unit out.

    • @kreigdernier9553
      @kreigdernier9553 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dangar Marine ok it looks like I need to replace the top seals on a honda 75. Sounds like i might need a fork lift

  • @niknahevad
    @niknahevad 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stu
    Great video, thanks.
    I'm going to change the trim-tilt motor on my 2002 50hp Yamaha four-stroke. The motor is working fine, but the housing looks bad, very rusty. I can get an Arco or Sierra motor from America for around $350, or I can buy a no-name brand on ebay for $150. Is it worth spending the extra $200? Or do you know somewhere else I could get it? I'm in Perth.
    For the small parts like o-rings is there an online shop where I can get them, or do i need to go to my local Yamaha dealer? I have the service manual, but it doesn't have the part numbers.
    Thanks!

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +David Hankin Hi David. You could also try Oz Wide Starters. They also carry a range of trim tilt motors. Quality can vary quite a bit. I've seen some aftermarket ones rust out pretty fast.

    • @niknahevad
      @niknahevad 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dangar Marine Thanks, I'll check them out

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot to say, I haven't found any good online stores, but take the o-rings to specialist engineering store and they will be able to match it for you.

    • @niknahevad
      @niknahevad 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Dangar Marine - How about the small parts like bushings that have to come from Yamaha. How do you figure out the part numbers?

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is the link for my outboard, but just use this site to find your model then look through the parts diagrams to find the bits you need: www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Outboard/1999/F50TLRX/parts.html

  • @BRAB00N
    @BRAB00N 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about thread tape on the screws to help seal

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't put any on. If a bit breaks off it will block the hydraulic passages the oil flows through. The o-rings and seals (if in good condition) are up to the job.

  • @jl901645
    @jl901645 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    CAN YOU MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT SERVICING THE PUMP IT SELF?????

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, I'll add it to the list.

  • @themumz1
    @themumz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know the part numbers for the seal kit

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you look up your engine on marineengine.com you should be able to get the part numbers.

    • @themumz1
      @themumz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looked all through there I can not find it. My issue is that I have a DF115 Suzuki and the IPB does now how a shaft seal independent from the $200 cover. It looks exactly the same as the one you pulled off in this video. What motor was in the video of what part number for that seal. Ie been searching for 2 days now.

  • @christophermcadams2823
    @christophermcadams2823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever seen the actual 12v motor housing (where the armature sits in) fill with fluid? I have that going on with my 98 yamaha 150 tilt trim unit. Im baffled. The oil seal on the shaft (that turns the pump drive) appears undamaged but the electric motor case is filling with fluid none the less.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I have see that, but every time the oil seal around the shaft has been obviously damaged or falled out completely.

    • @christophermcadams2823
      @christophermcadams2823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DangarMarine its acting like there is too much pressure on the top side of the pump assembly (where the motor and key way sits in) and its inadvertently forcing fluid passed the oil seal. I don't know much about these systems so im not sure if its normal to have pressure on that side. I'm just stumped. I went through and stripped the pump assembly down today and blew out all the orifices just to make sure. Ill throw it back together and see if it changed. If you have any ideas, feel free to throw them my way.

  • @Juancho1014
    @Juancho1014 ปีที่แล้ว

    But how to drain the fluid????!

  • @sc928porsche8
    @sc928porsche8 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do yourself a favor clean the outside of the assembly before you start dismantling it. smiles.

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good tip! I always do that with brake fluid reservoirs so it should have occurred to me to do it with this unit. :)

  • @greatvalleyone
    @greatvalleyone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Avoid using diesel for flushing out, as it is bad for the seals.

  • @paulskinner5567
    @paulskinner5567 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Vid stu!!! top stuff!!!

    • @DangarMarine
      @DangarMarine  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Paul Skinner Thanks Paul. :)

  • @BRAB00N
    @BRAB00N 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok

  • @madmanmechanic8847
    @madmanmechanic8847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You lost me ? You said in the beginning of the video that you had milkshake in the unit and were going to flush it out with ATF and then into the video you leave the water in the unit and just replace the seals . WTF dude why would you leave water in the unit that is very bad on internals and the pump. I waited all this time and you never flushed out with the ATF like you said to get the water out