How to layout your comic book pages - Comics For Beginners episode 3
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- www.comicsforbe... Getting from story to comic book pages can be a daunting task. What is the process behind breaking the script down into pages and breaking pages down into panels? How do you decide on the best possible way to tell your story in pictures? How do you avoid the fear of the blank page?
In this episode, Palle covers all the basics in page layouts and how to plan out your story, including thumbnails, establishing shots, cliffhangers, thumbnails, splash pages and bleed - and some pitfalls to be aware of.
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palles's style is very cinematic, love it. looks like a simple easy to do kind of style until you try to do it, that's when you realize, damn this guy's good.
Dude you are smart. I am rethinking my whole comic approach now (in a good way).
Kool
Sir, you have refilled what I would like to call my pool of inspiration, and for this I thank you. If I do make it, and even if I only partially make it I shall still recommend you to anyone I know whom is seeking aid learning how to make comics or stories alike. Yup
Have you made it yet?
D.A. Robin nope. But I am not giving up yet
@@DarknessXER its been 6 years
This is exactly what I've been looking for, my comic has stalled for a long time because I couldn't figure out how to translate the story I wanted to tell from text to visual medium. Thanks very much.
Glad I could help!
Wow, I was going to ask a question, but I see now this video is almost 7 years old, but who knows, I might get lucky. I write comic scripts for my own comic series and give those scripts to my artist. I've always written in panels and pages, the artists making their own layouts, but MOSTLY sticking to my panels. Is this weird? Do most artists break the script up into pages and panels themselves? My first book was drawn by Trevor Von Eeden, a very experienced and professional artist, and he never questioned my choice to specify pages and panels in the script, though sometimes he'd add or combine panels if he thought it looked better.
Hey Bradley, good question! I think most artists pretty much stick to what the writer suggests. As do I, when I'm working from someone else's script. But I find that when I'm writing for myself it makes more sense to break it down after the fact. Putting in panel descriptions and page breaks kinda stumps the flow of the writing for me. I like to get the story down and worry about the execution on the page later. Hope this answers your question!
Within reason It’s pretty normal. Artists will catch things that just won’t work out, it’s part of our job.
love your videos. this gives me the idea for switching my book i'm writing to a comic instead. thank you so much for having these videos up. its just gonna be hard for switching the format of the book to a script format lol.
0:22 touched my heart.... It made me sad!!!!!💔😔
7 years old and it's still inspiring
Good to hear, Jeremi!
I absolutely LOVE these videos. You've helped me so much! I just found your website and I can't wait to start working on more comics today. Great stuff- thank you so much!
15 seconds in and I am in love with your style
Thanks! Hope you still washed to the end, ha ha.
Hello! I have been wanting to construct a comic or illustrated book (the old faschioned kind) for the longest time but I was so confused as to where to start. I had all those ideas but I was not able to construct them and put them together into an actual product!
Your videos have inspired me and provided the structural advise that I needed and after only a couple of days' work I am farther along than I was for months!
Right now I am working on the script and once that is all done I will be moving along with the illustration process
Thank you!
That's good to hear, Danila! Thank you!
Ur a great teacher...I learnt so much thank u
Thanks, Sammy!
thanks this is proving to be extremely helpful. I am, however, finding it hard to all of the episodes.
Thank you for inspiration on your drawing techniques and also on knowledge of comics and how the format of drawing sketching design and character development splash page in special effects can be formatted is very inspirational
Have you tried doing the thumbnails/sketches digitally? Its better since you can move the bits and pieces around without redrawing and you save paper XD
Eurrikke Edward True , I’m about to release a video about my digital storyboards tomorrow ☺️ this video helped me a lot when I was starting comics ☺️
That video was great. I really feel like things I love about comics are explained for why I loved them.
This was a great video. It's really refreshing to learn so much in such a short time.
nice. Im looking at comics in a whole other perspective, thanks for the help.
Your every frame feels like a picture taken from a movie scene. A good movie scene.
Thanks Swapneel!
Thank you very much. This is very useful. Great examples and excellent pacing.
I never knew Loki had a TH-cam Channel.
But here we are..!
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Helpful video BTW!
Thanks!
thank you i appreciate the fact that you took your time to show make this for us. it is really helpful and easy to follow along and understand.
Thanks for this! Best advice for scripting I've found 🙏🏻
Thanks~ Also your workplace looks really cool!
Thanks for tutorial sir, it very helpful and understandable, keep it up and god bless
You're welcome!
why do i hear stan lee in your voice? XD
rip
@@moonhorizon9245 F
Was just gonna comment about that😂
Same
thanks a lot for this.Definitely going to check out the res of your videos to see if the rest are half as helpful as this one was.
Thank you for this! Super clear and concise!
I've taken notes this episode and the 2 other ones
Awesome stuff! Very helpful.
Dylan John Michael Thanks! Glad you found some value here! I've just launched a free 7-day course you can find at comicsforbeginners.com. Hope you'll join!
I wish you would've done more on the writing segment.
Episode 2 is all about that.
@@comicsforbeginners I saw it and it just sets up writing your story. It doesnt go into much detail on writing dialogue or the actual script
Well, it is called Comics for Beginners, I don't want to overwhelm people :-) You can find a little more on writing at the site. comicsforbeginners.com/blog
Thanks! Please continue lessons about drawing comics!
Wao this video was excellent, i felt it told me almost all i needed to know about layout in just a couple of minutes.
This's so helpful
Very good, thanks
Very useful information.Thank you!
Thank you immensely; this is very well developed and delivered. Great skill! Truly grateful for your interest to educate. :-)
THANK YOU SO MUCH I WAS SO LOST
HOW THE HECK DOES HE NOT HAVE A MILLION SUBS BY NOW
Wow im not the only one that just writes scripts like an animation. Nice!
this is very educational~
Wow it's my first time to come across this video
I just draw and script at the same time
I don't know how I was able to do that
Love this series so far thanks for the info. But, maybe you could put the title of this series first Comics for Beginners, then the topic, and then what episode of the series.
Awesome tips! Love it!
Hi
Good video series!
can you give a tutorial about how chat balloons should be?
I have an episode of my comics course dedicated to lettering and balloons. Check it out at comicsforbeginners.com. Thanks!
Super videoer! Det er stort af dig, at du vil dele din viden med os :)
dude, i'm like 30pgs in, wish i woulda found this earlier!
did you finish???
very helpful! thank you!
so professinal.very helpful
01:59
The way you said, "Some Scene".....sounded like Stan Lee.
Come on, I'm not THAT old..
where's episode 4? I can't find that
thanks you very mcuh for the tips!
finally, i understand now why they have varying sizes and designs
Awesomeness 😎
Hi Palle. A wonderful video and very informative. I know this is an old video from 9 years ago, but can I ask you some questions.
Say I have a pencil drawing and I want to do my paneling digitally, is it just a simple as scanning my drawing into my computer, do what I need to do with my drawing like turning my drawing into a digital artwork then fitting the artwork around a panel?
Hope that makes sense.
Last question, if I was to do my comic paneling digitally, what program do most comic book use?
Photoshop? Illustrator? InDesign? Maybe it depends on the artists taste?
Thanks for the kind words, Ben! Yea, you can absolutely scan your drawing and fiddle with it in the computer, like adjust the contrast and make the line more crisp. And yes, you can fit in a panel - but I would be way of scaling too much up or down as it affects line thickness. You'd be surprised how visible it is in a printed book when images vary in line width. In regards to paneling, like you say it depends on the artist. I just got ProCreate for my iPad Pro and it seems very useful for this. And it's very affordable, not like Adobe programs 😞. Hope you find something that works for you!
@@comicsforbeginners Thank you 🙏 for your reply. I use Procreate myself. I have done quite a few of my artwork in Procreate. I am in development of my first ever graphic novel and I have been getting to know the industry a bit. I want to try and use programs efficiently.
A have a question if you don’t mind me asking, when beginning a graphic novel is it best to start out knowing the dimensions and size of the book? I would assume this information comes from a printing house. Offset or print on demand.
Is this a good beginning?
Thank you Palle.😊 I can’t wait for more good feedback.
@@benlines2987 There are basically two formats, US and European. I have templates at comicsforbeginners.com/resources. You can also grab a book off the shelf and measure, that's what I did in the beginning. I would also suggest starting with a smaller project but that is unsolicited advice 🙂
Great vid bro. Very informative and helpful. Just what I was looking for ;-)
Can you do a tutorial on how to ink?
Very good stuff! Thank you for sharing. :)
Thank you
Thank you!
Have the writers at Marvel seen these vids? The word soup they tend to pour into a page is item number: 571 as to why they're sales are slumping.
That's for help I need it its for the kaiaju pika teakie manga series I write the story then draw it
Brilliant!!
Tintin routinely has 12-14 panels. Of course, the pages are a bit bigger than a lot comics'.
So you write your comics in screenplay format?
Pretty much, yes. I even started writing it in Final Draft. The main difference is I don't write detailed panel descriptions, because I only need feedback for the story and will be drawing it myself.
Him: Hi you made it! You wrote a script?
Me: ha no.
Him: No? You're out!
Me: okay I'll come back later
First things first!
Do you ever trace the photos when making characters for your comic and do you think to be able to be a comic artist someone needs to know how to draw
I'm pretty good with characters, so no. But I trace a lot of other things! Cars, rooms, buildings, you name it. And no, I don't think you need to be a great artist to make great comics. Look at Gary Larson og Marjane Satrapi! You need to be good at communicating and tell a compelling story for sure.
I recorded a podcast about this topic which you can find here: comicsforbeginners.com/talent-isnt-everything-comics-beginners-podcast-episode-22/
Thanks FOR THE UPLOAD!!! NEW SUBSCRIBER!!!
Is it possible to cram a full character arc in 4 pages? i had an assignment that require me to do so,it sounds impossible since you need to put alot of information for the character,situation,problem,and climax,in the end you need to put like 10 panels in 1 page
A full character arc might be a bit much. You would likely have more like a turning point where the character changes his mind on something or there's a significant change in her life. In a short story it will be a sort of slice-of-life story revolving an important event in the character's life.
@@PalleSchmidt1 yeah,this is college assignment,and some has done the same task,some displayed more text/more panel,yeah slice of life seems like a good choice,i need to tone down the story complexity and focus only on one event,thanks for answering,despite having no new comment for the past 3 years haha.
I am an aspiring penciler, and illustrator, and I have been having a hard time trying to make panels for my demo comic just to show what I'm capable of. This helpes exponentially!! Are you on Instagram?
Corey Kennedy Yup. Look for Palle Schmidt :-) Thanks!
+Corey Kennedy follow me on insta d_arts_9 I'm starting to draw comics too
Thanks
THANKS
What do I do after the last page? A blank page? A quick summary of the comic? I've never seen a comic before
You're amazing! 😱 you're my new senpai. .. Maybe in the near future you shall help me overthrow DC and marvel as I make my own universe 🙌... Cause I suck at drawing but I can handle the scripting
1:34 Does anyone know the comic?
Great insights, thanks for the video :)
That's from Thomas Alsop, the book I did with Chris Miskiewicz. All artwork in the series is my own, go to palleschmidt.com to see a list of publications. Thanks!
@@comicsforbeginners Fantastic appreciate it!
Ok but someone plz help I was looking for what A5 was referencing and came here but am too sad to watch to see if he tells me what this means
the layout has always been the hardest thing for me.
i love you man !
I love you too!
So where's Episode 4?
Is it deleted from TH-cam? 🤔
Nope, it's part of a paid program. Go to the site and you'll find everything there.
Ok, thanks for Video :)
Can u make a video teach how to make the cover
Noran Sharawna Good idea, Nora! I might just do that.
very helpfull :)
I have a question can we do the trouble at the begging and a flash back then back inti the problems
Flashbacks are tricky as they can sometimes take the momentum out of the story. On the other hand, if it keeps you guessing as to what is going on in the present and builds suspense, sure!
Palle Schmidt thank you I'll see what I can do
I dont find episode 4 :(
what programs you use to colour them?
and what markers or pens you use to layout it
Hi Selvaraj, I color most of my comics in Photoshop. There is a video and some tool recommendations at comicsforbeginners.com/free-online-tools-for-comic-creators/
thnx for respecting mu question
Where is next episode?
All ten episodes are at the site www.comicsforbeginners.com as part of a paid online course. Only episodes 1-3 are on TH-cam.
@@PalleSchmidt1 thank you
Is it totally horrible to include page breaks in our script?
David Watson Absolutely not! Most writers do. But since I'm usually drawing the pages myself, I leave the breakdowns for later. I find that thinking in panels and page breaks takes the fun out of writing the script. If someone else is drawing, include panels and page breaks.
what kinda paper do you use?
Sutorenja I use 200 grams paper, nothing fancy. I've experimented by buying a bunch of different pads over the years and right now I use not too expensive paper that still get's the job done. You'll have to try out different types of tools on different types of paper until you find something that works for you. Best of luck!
this shit is awesome !!! super helpful but cant find 4 its pissing me off
+Arismendy Jimenez Only the first 3 vids are available here, the rest are at the site - comicsforbeginners.com - as part of a paid subscription. It's very reasonably priced though :-) and since there is a 30-day money back guarantee, there's really no reason not to try it out. Thanks for the kind words!
Best, Palle
+Palle Schmidt (ComicsForBeginners) i thought i was going crazy... thx for the website
Oh, I wish that had been mentioned from the start, before I invested my time into the series... I got as confused as many others when I could only find the teasers for the rest of the series.
It's a great series, but that was kinda a douchy thing to do, get people invested into it and then say "to continue, you need to pay". It gives us a false sense of what to expect of the series, giving the illusion that you want to teach us, and makes you look a bit money-grubbing.
If you had been honest from Episode 1, you would not come out looking that way. Then you'd look like someone who wants to teach us, and gives us a third of the lessons for free.
See the difference? One way makes you look generous, the other makes you look greedy, without changing the content much.
Sorry you feel that way. The series was always intended to go up on comicsforbeginners.com, but since the first three vids are free, I figured I'd put them on TH-cam as well, so more people could enjoy. I have a 30-day money back guarantee and keep the price pretty low, I don't think that's money-grubbing. The fact that a part of my audience pay for content keeps the site and this channel ad-free for the rest of you.
I do understand that, but you're still leading the majority of the viewers, which will only see the TH-cam content, in the dark about this until it is too late.
As I said, it makes you *look* like you're money-grubbing, even if that's not the intention.
Some captions on Episode 1, or even mentioning it in the description would solve this for you. As it is now, the only mention I could even find of this is this very comment thread.
Do you have a book?
Here's one: www.amazon.com/gp/product/879373719X/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
@@PalleSchmidt1 thanks, I was thinking more in the lines of your Comics for Beginners video series. You have really good material and your explanations just make sense. Really good stuff. I know this is old but I just found it, and these videos are timeless.
@@PabloPazosGutierrez Gotcha. SOLO is more about the business and mindset aspect of creating art, where it makes more sense to have the how-to stuff in video format. Glad you connect with it.Thanks for the kind words!
Hey Palle er du dansk?
Ja, det er jeg :-)
6-9 panels a page? Have ya'll ever seen French comics? 9-15 is what they do. Miyazaki as well.
okok...I´m out, i´ll be back with a script, don't go anywhere!
you back?
FLA SHIT kind of, yes. Why do you ask? :)
+Mailus oh I just wanted to see if you published your book
FLA SHIT Oh, absolutely not. I wish, or more like, i haven't earned it yet with my current skills or determination :P
+Mailus lol good luck
im in the proces of making a script OwO
any body know how to draw
+Steven Hugvins hehe
wtf is this series just ends on episode 3....
+vince d All other episodes are at the site. It's part of a premium subscription but there is a 30-day money back guarantee..
this is episode 3...posted in 2013... this is 2017, where are episodes 4-10?
--Rick
At the site comicsforbeginners.com you can find all 10 episodes. But you probably already figured that out :-)
Hail Hydra
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