I don’t like people swearing around me so I just sit in the quiet area away from the bar because as much as I don’t like it and don’t want to hear it I believe in free speech although it is just bad manners to swear in front of children
It's about workers rights?? Those workers will be too busy worrying about whether or, not Labour's national insurance raid will lose them their jobs, to listen to punters banter. This Labour government just wants to distract people from appalling Labour policies.
I can't wait for these clowns to be ousted. Most landlords will look at this and totally ignore it. How can they even think this should happen. Absolutely ridiculous. Starmer is an absolute control freak. He needs to go. He cannot tell people what to talk about.
All the more reason to ensure we all frequent our pubs on a regular basis and insist on speaking our minds in the most un-PC manner possible! Surely, they can't 'erect' us all!
Landlords will put a disclaimer into employment contracts ,that you can not be offended by any conversions you over hear ,if you do not agree you can get a job else where its that simple.
But the government could force it and since the big company's green king and weatherspoons gonna like not wanna be sued all blue hairs have to do is report 1 star reviews on every pub that is not following the protocol they can make it law and if they do final nail for pubs
For once, we have a really very good chance to break this Tory-Labour cabal !! Don't screw up!! Mobilize, vote only for Reform UK candidates everywhere !!
I will but lot on that Paul channel drumming everyone vote against reform.cos can't get there own way on tommy robinson been 5 month now running them down.hope don't split vote or keep labour
Yes, the freedom of expression. ECHR Article 10. I’ve always warned that leaving the ECHR would give the Government a free pass to actually damage what rights we have left. Looks like that would be the way they would go if they could. The ultimate backstab.
They can try.. Imagine living in fear of this government. I will speak when I want and how I want. Who ever is around and get hurty fee fees, they really shouldn't be in a pub environment. I have a feeling Labour are really on their last legs, trying absolutely anything to stop people talking about the sad state of affairs this country is in, using hurty fee fees as an excuse. Never bow down.
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I agree but look at Canada, the government like the one we have can do exactly what they want. They are dangerous.
@@SIMONWINTER-m6d Well, Nazis and Stalinists were best of chums until Adolf decided he didn't want to share Europe. You seem to think there is a difference between the two philosophies but I disagree. Both were repressive, authoritarian socialist states.
@ I posted a response to your comment yesterday but it appears to have been censored. My opinion on the shared identity of the NSWP and the Communist party clearly shocked and appalled !
Yeah ,i can see this really working well. The old Bill hanging around pubs waiting to snitch on old Fred when he's had one too many. Welcome to the old East Germany under Chairman Keir. Snitches get stitches.
According to this bill... I will be very, very rich as a nurse. I get literal furniture thrown at me most days. I find that quote distressing and offensive.
I am a bar man so does that mean ill be able to chuck someone out if they are bad mouthing reform? I could say i find it offensive, right? Or does it only work if youre slagging off labour or the left?
Said ad nauseam but it doesn't make it less true Labours goal is 1984, just mentioning the fact you can't discus things they don't agree with is so scary if Russa had said the same they'd be derided across the world.
People will stop going to pubs and the landlord will lose the business and the staff will lose their jobs. So I don't think that the staff will report anything that anyone says.
In the UK there are laws that penalize people for wasting police time, including making trivial complaints. The primary law that applies is Section 5(2) of the Criminal Law Act 1967 which makes it an offence to to cause wasteful employment of police resources by misleading the police into taking unnecessary action.
It is a law that isn't going to work, same as the online safety bill. A complete waste of time and money designed to give Starmers lawyer mates more business.
"If a law is unjust a man is not only right to disobey it he is obligated to do so" - Thomas Jefferson "One has a moral duty to disobey unjust laws" - Martin Luther King "It seems to me that an unjust law is no law at all." ~ Saint Augustine
Brian Bribonde of Facejacker fame does a real great stint as a Prime Minister, almost as good as Mr. Boris Blobby. 'Democracy' of course voted these people in, didnt it?!
Seems strange that if things said in 'Private' conversations in pubs offend you, Why work there?? Just remember it is the customer that pays your wages, that hand out tips and keeps you in work. STOP earwigging on private conversations and get on with the job. Being out of work is far worse.
If 2 trans people were sat at the bar and saying the law should ban all male and female sports, and I didn’t agree could I call the police on them OR is it only one way
Pub landlords have the power to employ the right kind of workers, who uphold free speech freedoms? Anyone of the kind to be 'offended' by aperson having alternative views need not apply for pub jobs?
Shes right i worked behind the bar for years loved it but u use to get it u just had to toughen up or get out ive said it if this is what the main problems is kids now and young ones try and shut people down for hurt feelings sorry in that job if u cant take someone going against what u think then u walk away if u dont like it its a joke now and taking the michael
He is concerned about groups planning retaliation against the grope groups and making landlords responsible to keep the ideology. 1 place you can plan without being monitored, how many times Farage had talks in pubs? Remove the camera you have privacy a certain people wont go into because of their ban.
Here’s an idea hows about adopting a thing called the amendments I think a certain other democratic country has them and they’ve worked pretty well. Sticks and stones .
What a about invasion of privacy they shouldn't listen to other people's conversations so piss Starmers not in control Sadiq Khan is running out everything trust me... He needs investigating...
Look carefully at the wording. "If someone feels offended by such speech" How can you know in advance if something you say (in a conversation with someone who has agreed to have a conversation with you) will offend someone who should be picking up glasses and minding their own business.
Lol some people die of a nut allergy does that mean we should ALL stop eating nuts to protect the others. The weoke left are full of hatred speech. Just look at the abusive gaza marches.@@garyh1572
This is a quote from when Britannia still was a Great Britain and comes from a famous British author Evelyn Beatrice Hall from back in 1906: "I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It". Back then was this totally unthinkable in Russia, but then again it morfed into Soviet Union later on...
People have a right not to be exposed to offensive views whilst in a situation they can’t walk away from, namely, work. Why is everyone so outraged by a perfectly sensible piece of forthcoming legislation. It’s long overdue.
People certainly take offence but it is rarely given. If it is sensible to ban certain thoughts spoken out loud, who is to decide? Perhaps you should be the judge but what gives you the right to decide?
@@Bob-e9f9q You're entitled to your opinion but I won't report your abusive comment. Of course, some people will deliberately try to be offensive but if the government want to proscribe certain speech because they don't agree with it, where will it end?
Its all because starmer is barred from most pubs in the uk
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes and his jackal friends with beards and no brain Arab
And homes
Should be banned from every where That would be good wouldn’t it 🇬🇧🇬🇧😤😤😤
And to please his Muslim masters.
We all speak the same language at my local. We All hate this government.
You all speak my language too.
@@susangarbutt7189same I shops everywhere not heard anyone who likes lanour
@@susangarbutt7189And mine.
Yeah, bring back music at Wetherspoons.
@@susangarbutt7189 any gov r ur enemies thats y voiting is fkn pointless
Good lord, don't work in the leisure industry if hurty words offend you. Work elsewhere. This woke generation really need to grow up 😡
I don’t like people swearing around me so I just sit in the quiet area away from the bar because as much as I don’t like it and don’t want to hear it I believe in free speech although it is just bad manners to swear in front of children
Pubs are for people who talk to who they want znd what they sent to.
@@ck9knit's life we managed all my 75 years.ive heard a sorts if don't like it I move away a,little.
@@ck9knI don’t like what you say, but I will fight for your right to say it.
Can’t see anybody in a pub being offended by a conversation on grooming gangs.
the barman with the pink hair and hammer & sickle tattoo might. lol
Because they don't drink alcohol?
Free speech at all cost
Starmer the UK first communist PM …..not going too well is it !. ? Starmer sounds like a Dalek ………never ends well for Daleks 😂😂😂😂😂
5,4,3,2,1 sausages.
Fascist PM.
Davros or Davos - at this point there's no difference between two mad tyrants
Worst kind of commie,a Stalinist.
Free speech for everyone, even if I don't like hearing it !!
He wasn’t the first. He’s just ramped it up. Blair started this agenda
I will say what I like no one's going to stop me !!! Ever !!!
Same here , keep speaking you mind .
Me to.
@@SIMONWINTER-m6dI'm on late 70s I only speak one way.all my life.git me this far
I say what I want at work..I say "years ago a tranny was a radio"....then I get "you can't say that" in whispers....yes I CAN!
Starmer has to go!!!
It's not happening quickly enough,he's like a leech
Not just Stammer it's the whole "establishment"
Straight to hell
They are cracking down on what we can say online and now they are clamping down on what we can say in real life!
It's called fascism. We now have a fascist dictatorship.
We will soon have police I our houses making sure no one talks of starmers friends he needs to look after
@@UtubeRfarlefty called racism to actual brits
Unjust laws should be ignored .
It's about workers rights??
Those workers will be too busy worrying about whether or, not Labour's national insurance raid will lose them their jobs, to listen to punters banter.
This Labour government just wants to distract people from appalling Labour policies.
I can't wait for these clowns to be ousted. Most landlords will look at this and totally ignore it. How can they even think this should happen. Absolutely ridiculous. Starmer is an absolute control freak. He needs to go. He cannot tell people what to talk about.
Landlords will have to quiet hireing only hire those who are not over sensitive bitches
Scandalous 😡😡😡😡😡
All part of the destruction of Britain 😢
Pubs will be empty
That is the idea though...
Thats the plan
That’s what Labour want.
he will allow mosques to be built in their place
All the more reason to ensure we all frequent our pubs on a regular basis and insist on speaking our minds in the most un-PC manner possible! Surely, they can't 'erect' us all!
Landlords will put a disclaimer into employment contracts ,that you can not be offended by any conversions you over hear ,if you do not agree you can get a job else where its that simple.
But the government could force it and since the big company's green king and weatherspoons gonna like not wanna be sued all blue hairs have to do is report 1 star reviews on every pub that is not following the protocol they can make it law and if they do final nail for pubs
@@jonathanoxlade4252 just like lockdown r wait i didnt do that either
How they gonna police that....
Wont even come out to a burglary!
Utter rubbish 🗑
For once, we have a really very good chance to break this Tory-Labour cabal !! Don't screw up!! Mobilize, vote only for Reform UK candidates everywhere !!
I will but lot on that Paul channel drumming everyone vote against reform.cos can't get there own way on tommy robinson been 5 month now running them down.hope don't split vote or keep labour
Doesn’t this violate the Human Rights Act?
Only if your not indigenous
Yes, the freedom of expression. ECHR Article 10. I’ve always warned that leaving the ECHR would give the Government a free pass to actually damage what rights we have left. Looks like that would be the way they would go if they could. The ultimate backstab.
Speakeasy pubs will be popping up.
They can try.. Imagine living in fear of this government. I will speak when I want and how I want. Who ever is around and get hurty fee fees, they really shouldn't be in a pub environment. I have a feeling Labour are really on their last legs, trying absolutely anything to stop people talking about the sad state of affairs this country is in, using hurty fee fees as an excuse. Never bow down.
I agree but look at Canada, the government like the one we have can do exactly what they want. They are dangerous.
Won't ever police mine not at any price
Free speech = free people. When you don;t have free speech you are not free.
The emperor that even didn't buy his own clothes.
Fight back against Starmer's Gestapo tactics!
Funny that Gestapo tactics mixed with a Stalinist - must be the world's first Hibrid (Is that how it's spelled?) leader !!
@@SIMONWINTER-m6d Well, Nazis and Stalinists were best of chums until Adolf decided he didn't want to share Europe. You seem to think there is a difference between the two philosophies but I disagree. Both were repressive, authoritarian socialist states.
They wearing brown shirts for sure
@@Richie-vu4we Yep !!
@ I posted a response to your comment yesterday but it appears to have been censored. My opinion on the shared identity of the NSWP and the Communist party clearly shocked and appalled !
If someone objects to people getting angry about child rape gangs then alarm bells should be ringing...?
I’m so sick of TH-cam shadow banning
Currently they are misrepresenting the unrepresentable.
I am ashamed of my country. Labour are an absolute nightmare. All we can do is hope that Trump saves Brits from these despots.
State control
Overheard speech reported to the Stazi, the Gestapos, the KGB, we've been here before, it did not end well.
The reality of socialism is bearing it's fruits... poverty and oppression
As a UK citizen, this makes me feel like a citizen of the former East Germany, having to be careful what l say etc
Pubs will have to have separate trans and veggie bars , be like the old days public and saloon bars
WELL ITS STARTED IN THE WORK PLACE
I will not comply i will say what ever i want to say😊
not allowed to have an opinion mad
Two tier no idea keir
That's what they want so as not to upset others
Two tier no idea no beer love a queer kier
Yeah ,i can see this really working well.
The old Bill hanging around pubs waiting to snitch on old Fred when he's had one too many.
Welcome to the old East Germany under Chairman Keir.
Snitches get stitches.
Obergruppenführer Starmer!
According to this bill... I will be very, very rich as a nurse. I get literal furniture thrown at me most days. I find that quote distressing and offensive.
Let me get this right. Patients are throwing furniture at you ? - disgusting. I'm so sorry this is happening to you.
I am a bar man so does that mean ill be able to chuck someone out if they are bad mouthing reform? I could say i find it offensive, right? Or does it only work if youre slagging off labour or the left?
The latter...
Yeah,you're far right - Starmer says so !!
Not in pubs in my town it won't, if they did noone would go back anyway. Pubs want to make money
I would have agreed, but after Covid, I'm not so sure. Pubs did all sorts of crazy, nonsensical things just to 'comply'.
1776 was genius.
Well the police will be called every minute
It doesn't matter. They won't come.😂
Im sure this guy wanted me to lose my job and freedom for refusing a medical procedure. Freedom, yeah right.
The end of pubs and clubs.
Is she allowed to speak?
Every time she gets interesting he butts in
The UK is already lost
Who's going to police this and if people are sad enough to go along with this nonsense..god help us.
Well they are already nicking people for posting hurty things on facebook...
OTHER people will police it, like the snitches and little dictators who reported people for not wearing masks...
As evil pushes hard against us then we have to push as hard against evil
Said ad nauseam but it doesn't make it less true Labours goal is 1984, just mentioning the fact you can't discus things they don't agree with is so scary if Russa had said the same they'd be derided across the world.
By the same author:
Some pigs are definitely more equal than others:
You all know who I mean !!
And by the same author:
Some pigs are definitely more equal than others
You all know who I mean !!
And by the same author:
Some pigs are definitely more equal than others
You all know who I mean !!
People will stop going to pubs and the landlord will lose the business and the staff will lose their jobs. So I don't think that the staff will report anything that anyone says.
I think that's the aim. Pubs are the last bastion of free speech.
We will have to have listening boxes…. Where we can speak freely without interference… isn’t that very 17th century…???
In my local if someone complains about what i talk about and complains they will never ever be in that pub again ???????? Promise me
Don’t say anything around bartender and staff
and that won,t spark off any trouble will it
What are the chances of saudi arabia excepting the gays ? Even after us bending over backwards, no pun intended
Reform reform reform
Gaslighting puzzled management, what a joke
In the UK there are laws that penalize people for wasting police time, including making trivial complaints. The primary law that applies is Section 5(2) of the Criminal Law Act 1967 which makes it an offence to to cause wasteful employment of police resources by misleading the police into taking unnecessary action.
It beggars belief how far this nonsense can go.
The UK is resembling Stasi East Germany more and more; what an irony.
👿👿👿👿
When is Racheal from accounts going...
I work in hospitality, and i was offended by a table that were slating Farage.
Im more than happy to police that kind of narrative. 😂
There are hundreds of unjust laws on the UK legistor books
religion politics shouldn't be talked about in pubs is the old unwritten rule
Still waiting for a "like" I see.
It is a law that isn't going to work, same as the online safety bill. A complete waste of time and money designed to give Starmers lawyer mates more business.
Pubs are the best place for all gossip clean or rude 🤣🤣🤣 and most bar staff I know are probably the worst for the gossip
I was a barmaid in the sixties it was fun given as good as you get very few people were horrible
Bogey man for Starmer,,,
"If a law is unjust a man is not only right to disobey it he is obligated to do so"
- Thomas Jefferson
"One has a moral duty to disobey unjust laws"
- Martin Luther King
"It seems to me that an unjust law is no law at all."
~ Saint Augustine
Complete and utter nonsense good luck with that one Starmer!
Instead of stopping speech stop the boats
Brian Bribonde of Facejacker fame does a real great stint as a Prime Minister, almost as good as Mr. Boris Blobby. 'Democracy' of course voted these people in, didnt it?!
Seems strange that if things said in 'Private' conversations in pubs offend you, Why work there?? Just remember it is the customer that pays your wages, that hand out tips and keeps you in work. STOP earwigging on private conversations and get on with the job. Being out of work is far worse.
If 2 trans people were sat at the bar and saying the law should ban all male and female sports, and I didn’t agree could I call the police on them OR is it only one way
Newspeak is here, next is Newthink...
😂😂😂😂Hilarious
Pub landlords have the power to employ the right kind of workers, who uphold free speech freedoms? Anyone of the kind to be 'offended' by aperson having alternative views need not apply for pub jobs?
Shes right i worked behind the bar for years loved it but u use to get it u just had to toughen up or get out ive said it if this is what the main problems is kids now and young ones try and shut people down for hurt feelings sorry in that job if u cant take someone going against what u think then u walk away if u dont like it its a joke now and taking the michael
He is concerned about groups planning retaliation against the grope groups and making landlords responsible to keep the ideology. 1 place you can plan without being monitored, how many times Farage had talks in pubs? Remove the camera you have privacy a certain people wont go into because of their ban.
Here’s an idea hows about adopting a thing called the amendments I think a certain other democratic country has them and they’ve worked pretty well. Sticks and stones .
Najes no sense ya ban smoking in pubs and buses yet ya can vaoes in the pub and buses 🤡🤡i cant stand vaoe smoke that looks like a foggy day
Is this a Ww2 poster “careless talk costs lives” (the speaker)
It's communism
I’m sure Ai will play it’s part.
Hahaha yeh ok
Net zero free speech eh
W
It's enough of this bullshit!
Im offended by the erection comments 🤷🏻♀️
Time to out watt in paid i full your turn or no mine ????
Your like nagasaki from singer poor wile deaf
What a about invasion of privacy they shouldn't listen to other people's conversations so piss Starmers not in control Sadiq Khan is running out everything trust me... He needs investigating...
Free speech doesn't entitle you to hate speech .
Yes it does
Look carefully at the wording.
"If someone feels offended by such speech" How can you know in advance if something you say (in a conversation with someone who has agreed to have a conversation with you) will offend someone who should be picking up glasses and minding their own business.
Yes it does so fuck of you W⚓️, how’s that for a bit of free speech!
Lol some people die of a nut allergy does that mean we should ALL stop eating nuts to protect the others.
The weoke left are full of hatred speech.
Just look at the abusive gaza marches.@@garyh1572
NO I WONT ILL STOP TALKING & USE SYMBOLS LIKE MY 2ND FINGER
This is a quote from when Britannia still was a Great Britain and comes from a famous British author Evelyn Beatrice Hall from back in 1906:
"I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It".
Back then was this totally unthinkable in Russia, but then again it morfed into Soviet Union later on...
Policing speech is a female speciality
People have a right not to be exposed to offensive views whilst in a situation they can’t walk away from, namely, work. Why is everyone so outraged by a perfectly sensible piece of forthcoming legislation. It’s long overdue.
People certainly take offence but it is rarely given. If it is sensible to ban certain thoughts spoken out loud, who is to decide? Perhaps you should be the judge but what gives you the right to decide?
@ You’re talking gibberish. It’s offensive. Please stop.
@@Bob-e9f9q You're entitled to your opinion but I won't report your abusive comment. Of course, some people will deliberately try to be offensive but if the government want to proscribe certain speech because they don't agree with it, where will it end?