When something new is being talked about and somewhat interests me, I simply read about it and hear out from people who have tried it and get their opinion. Then I try it out myself whether it is a good or bad one to integrate in my skills. I have tried this and it actually works...in close quarters as is explained in the system. ( that is from a distance of 2m to about 5 to 7m.) The CAR system is an added skill you could use in addition to the is/weav. Something to look in to before saying that this is a bad system or a dangerous one.. Great video bro. Would want to learn more about this and get to visit your country to see it firsthand in your classes.
Denis Roque thank you for commenting. I'm glad you were able to glean some usefulness from these videos. They are not meant to be instructional as I would hate bad people to learn the technique. I look forward to training with you one day. I have trips to South America, South Africa as well as the United States and hopefully Europe with in the next year.
These are all excellent videos. Extremely informative and broken down piece by piece. Well done keep them coming. Your knowledge and technique is very valuable to good samaritans such as myself who have not had combat experience but wish do defend against all threats foreign and domestic. Thank you so much.
Average Joe, it is been my experience that not just police and military but the responsibly armed civilian will be the ones first at scene and protecting my family when I'm not with them. Thank you for having the foresight to train yourself physically and mentally.
Frank Butta, thank you for commenting. I’m glad you’re able to get something out of the videos, obviously they’re not meant to be completely instructional as TH-cam is open source and I would not want bad people to learn. Stay safe and I hope the train with you soon.
Found this through the Kelly Worden video... Annyway. Pity this system isn’t shown more…Just because it was in “That Videogame” and “That Movie”. It almost feels like it is somewhat judged prematurely, because of the mind-set that: If it is used in popular culture it´s “just cool looking”. I might not have any weapons experience but I am into martial arts like BJJ, Bujinkan Ninjitsu and I used to do Krav Maga. And for me the fascination with C.A.R. is the systems mobility, the ambidexterity and the fact that only one eye can see the sights in the combat possession. It seems to eliminate so many problems in one go. Somehow C.A.R. just seems so much more fluent then more traditional stances.
Hello T.B. Photo and thank you for your comment. You have a lot of experience in moving the body properly via martial arts and the pistol in this case is an obvious extension of that. There are many scientific reasons why the CAR System out performs other shooting positions. How the eyes work in sighting, dual sight picture, not needing to close and eye (thereby losing over 50% vision & depth perception) and more. Also the non-scientific reasons or should I call them the not yet tested reasons. CAR was developed for contact distance and work its way out to traditional Weaver/Isosceles. Where Weaver/Isosceles work well at distance or where there is more time but do not work as well up close when weapon transitions, the "grey area" and of course vehicles, cockpits etc. I actually do not "shoot CAR" exclusively, is it a position I adopt without thought when in a situation it will be of benefit in. With the average LE gunfight being 3'-5' feet, 3-5 rounds and 3-5 seconds and Civilian threats being up close typically as well, CAR is a great tool to have.
Carlton McLeod, thanks for the comment. I'm happy to be continuing with videos and am working on a couple of articles as well. The unknown history of the CAR System and its origins for those who are interested in how it actually came about. It was not just Mr. Paul Castle that created it. As well as further medical research into why it works so well relating to the eyes and sighting under Body Alarm Response.
T.B.Photo Yea I'd like to integrate this into traditional practice myself I don't care what others think as it does have a place in training being that this isn't taught anymore, at least to my knowledge, are there dvds or something you may know about?
T.B.Photo if you have no weapon experience then you don’t know shit about shooting. You are just shooting your mouth off trying to mesh martial arts with shooting. This stance is good for some situations but mostly it’s not a good technique for shooting.
Eduardo Lima Argimon, thank you for commenting. I do the exact same. CAR for situations close up and when there is more time or the situation dictates I use Isosceles/Weaver.
thanks for the response. What is funny is, before seeing the video, i was training house clearing at my home. And i more often use Car, to enter rooms where i don't know where my wife positioned the targets (I don't shoot them) And when i can't pie the corner enough to see if there is an imediate threat waiting to take the gun from me. And i find very easy to transition and point the thumbs forward. And once inside the room, i transition to fully extended arms i can aim better this way. And shooting on the move is more precise with extended arms, but as a martial arts practitioner, CAR is very very useful for several situations, thank you for sharing. Really good video. You got one more subscriber
I started experimenting on it couple years back. I do use opposite eyes depending where i position my hands during the clearing, depending on the direction of breach i may use the left eye to aim the pistol that is being dominantly held by my right hand. Or may use the right eye, and the same goes for the left hand as dominant grip. For drawing the side arm and shooting from retention i sometimes do as the techniques presented on video, or sometimes do as Tom Cruise do in the collateral alley scene, but i'm pretty sure that, that isn't a CAR technique. My drawing training is the same. I have a BOB dummy, and i often first strike it, before shooting the target next to it. I prefer to strike at knee height and train to break the knee and make the agressor instantly fall to the ground. Or a combo of open palm strike to the nose and one punch to the throat ( The target next to it simulates a second agressor, i sometimes may put more) To train inside my house i may use a GBB airsoft (Since i wont shoot inside it) Which is practical in some extent.
I like to know what you point of view is regarding if a person should focus on training with their dominant hand, such as being right or left handed or if one should forget about choosing a side and learn to shoot equally well with both hands!? How you think of this for Defensive shooting?
Chris Erics, thank you for your question. Context is everything. Are you a working professional that needs defensive skills daily? If so why would you stop training or do something differently with your weapon side that may impede your capabilities. I think of it in the same way my martial arts teacher Kelly S Worden described to me training power/speed/technique with right and left hands. He told me that he could throw a baseball with his right with for more accuracy then with his left but he could certainly catch a fly ball with his left much faster than with his right. Given that he was right handed he had more motor control over the right side so his left side was much better for a jab or for a finger thrust to the eyes out of seemingly nowhere and his right had more of a power based structure two with strikes. He tempered this with learning centre line striking equal pressured and equal stance such as from Wing Chung When talking about pistol skills, I would train my weapon side and have it dialled in but always be switching hands and looking for my reaction side capabilities. With the CAR System for example you could either keep the gun in your weapon side and turn around 180° or you could switch to your reaction side and not have to move your body there by covering 180° behind you. But if I were to do that with my reaction side I would then switch over to my weapon side as it is my “preferred side“ as soon as reasonable. Now of course reaction side can cover you off in a vehicle and expose you less from cover on that side etc. Basically how much are you going to train? And what is your desired end state? And your timeline? I would learn how to do phase 1 and phase 2 stoppage drills with my weapon side then at least a phase 1 drill with my reaction side. And of course one handed phase 1 and phase 2 stoppage drills on both sides. It’s hard for me to answer this question without context and especially in an open public forum where I’m not wanting to really teach technique. If this makes sense or not let me know and certainly feel free to contact me in person for specifics. Great question, hopefully we can train together in person one day. Stay safe.
If this is for concealed carry. How does it change? Does the support hand clear the garment whilst,"slapping low" prior to meeting hands together? Or should I maybe have a t-shirt always tucked in with a button up? Not trying to poke holes or Anything just really curious? Also how could I find a reputable company to train with in this system?(from New mexico)
Shelby buck, thank you for commenting and excellent question. Stage two of the draw or as it’s known in CAR, the Key Clearance - is The same position. As for initially getting a garment out of the way when drawing from IWB for example, there are a few variations on technique to do with the specific operator and typically a policy they have to work in at their department. Simply put, yes you’re on the right track. As for where you can get reputable training and a few more specifics on your first question, please email me and we can discuss that. Stay safe.
Roger Wood Thanks for commenting. Good observation, the targets are that low because we were sitting in chairs and the angles were getting too high for the back berm to be safe. Especially when reactive shooting to upper chest and head of a “standing” target.
Natural Tactical thanks for the reply. I saw other targets earlier in the video I thought would have been at a better height to run that drill. Just an observation, thanks again.
Max William, thanks for the comment and question. I assume you mean from the Combat Position where the pistol is compressed slightly in front of my face, yes you would still look at your front sight. That is in conjunction with body alignment to the target. Those two things together allow me to shoot and move very quickly while still getting accurate combat shots.
Thank you for your fast anwser; you perfectly answered my question. When you look at your front sight, you see it sharp and your target blurry. Does this mean that you initially focus on the surrounding (such that the front sight is blurry) until you select/determine a target and then focus on the front sight to aim? I'm asking because I saw that some intructors teach to permanently focus on the target while aiming (so the front sight is always blurry). I would be interested in your opinion on this.
Max, my short version, typing answer to this question is simply-it depends. Not going against what these other instructors have told you but that's contextual. Feel free to contact me by email as this is as far as I'll go open source as we now get into application of tactic which is not something I am comfortable offering to the world without knowing who they are.
You're welcome. I have an auto immune problem and can't run do to bad and damaged joints. I am not a gun nut, which nothing wrong if anyone is. From watching your video, I see the real value of getting proper training. I want to get a gun for protection soon.
I hope you are able to get your immune issue under control soon. Feel free to email me personally (email on contact page of my website www.NaturalTactical.com) as I can offer you a coupon code for $10.00 off the eLearning Center Axis Relock System at home intro course (offered by www.SabreTactical.com). You certainly do not need to run or over exert yourself for the eLearning course.
MrBudoguy thank you for your comment. Over the years many departments have taken in the CAR System or the main principles of it. As the person who was trained transitioned out of the agencies training section the concept was typically no longer understood and changed or taught poorly. In turn the CAR technique was then changed or dropped. The way firearms are taught is hard to change but CAR is immediately grabbed for "continued education" for Weapon Retention/Protection; Vehicle Ambush scenarios; Confined Spaces such as bus, plane, etc. This pattern has happened time and time again. The CAR System is a technique that fits perfectly into "traditional" firearms training. Unfortunately that fact it the most miss understood concept in the often ego charged training world. Feel free to email or call me to discuss more specifics. Stay safe.
Natural Tactical thank you for taking the time to answer my question. Yes, l too have witnessed this that ego holds back progress in shooting training. I teach at the Police Academy of Belgium and just this year we got the memo that we have to teach the thumbs forward technique. A technique that is give or take 30 years old. Weaver and isosceles are also out of the picture. We finaly caught with the rest of the world.
Agreed, something like CAR can fit in perfectly with more traditional techniques and outperform in certain situations. Best tool for the job so to speak. Stay safe and thank you for your service.
Great video, thank you! two questions: a/ How many reps on the rubber gun do you think it takes a civilian to get, oh, half as fast / smooth as you in your draw and presentation (I know, slow is smooth, smooth is fast... ( : >)) b/ it might be the angle of the camera, but at 1:48 the muzzle of your weapon looks seriously close to the top of your left forearm,...
Lonesome Whistle, thank you for the comments and questions. In regards to how long will the training take? Obviously "it depends". It mainly depends on the type of training you get in (how it is structured). I would be happy to explain further please contact me via email. As for the gun looking close to my forearm during fire - yes it is close but not unsafe. Obviously these videos are not meant to teach the technique as I do not want that knowledge open source to everyone. Please feel free to contact me so that I can be more specific with the best way we found to train this technique.
Pat Baker, thank you for the comment. Yes, it will absolutely work for larger caliber weapons. In fact I will often demo Shooting a pistol grip 12 gauge shotgun using full power XX slug while holding it like a pistol, not in my shoulder. Certainly not a technique for self defence but it shows how the "felt" recoil is reduced and handled by the CAR Combat position.
Sérgio Magalhães Hello Sergio and thank you for commenting. That happens to a lot of people who have a very dominant eye. We were given a list of three exercises to help retrain your non-dominant eye as it has basically gone dormant. Hopefully we can meet and train together in the near future I would be happy to share those exercises with you. Stay safe.
Nicholas Riley, thank you for your comment and question. If your pistol was on your left ankle for example the principles would be the same. Please feel free to contact me via email to discuss further if you like. Stay safe.
How about basing the weak hand over the heart instead of over the navel? (For a righty.) Seems that grabbing your heart while flinching from a surprise is more natural.
Peter Bunnell thank you for the comment. This is a winning conversation to have. Unfortunately texting is a difficult way to have a conversation but let's try. If you're talking about a "flinch" response then I prescribed to the method Mr. Tony Blauer is teaching. Three types of flinches (Primative, Protective & Tactical) which are all based on your Awareness (which in turn is based on Suddenness Proximity and Aggression). In that case you were simply going to move in whatever way the situation dictates given the bodies innate response. To establish a tactic, like drawing the pistol, I can see how covering your heart or vital areas with your forearm and hand could be beneficial if your goal is to try to stop some lower caliber rounds from penetrating. When transitioning with for example a shotgun with no sling I will bring it across my vitals when going to the pistol. But if we are trying to design a draw stroke for the pistol that works from contact fighting distances and out I want my hands to be in a position to get my proper two handed grip as soon as possible. If I draw the gun and put my reaction side hand above where I can draw the gun to height wise I will have a possible muzzling issue when the hands come together. This is all the more serious if I needed to shoot from stage two of the draw before hands come together. I hope this makes sense via typing. Please feel free to email or call me to discuss this further. Contact info is in the about section on the TH-cam page. Train safe and take care.
I was considering a fist over the heart to block a stab, where the fingers are tucked in. Moving to the grip from the belly is much safer. Experience and training wins out, thanks!
Archie clay, thank you for your question - in the beginning of the video I am using a rubber red gun for safety and at the end of the video for live fire I am using a Glock model 17, 9 mm.
Natural Tactical I like the ease of control in that pistol and the slide seems to be moving effortlessly as you shoot. Out of all of the CAR videos I watched yours was the most explanatory.
Archie - I guess that's why the inventor of the system left it to me! Of course I don't want the videos to be to explanatory as they're open source and I certainly don't want bad people to learn this but there is so much incorrect information out there on the system I feel I should try to at least guide people towards those who can show how to properly use it and describe it. Hopefully I'll see you on live training someday, take care be safe.
Soplet, yes The John Wick movies have spurred a lot of interest from people in CAR. Too bad the technique isn’t correct in the movie but it does make for a good cinema experience!
Miles J. thank you for leaving a comment. I assume you have passed judgement on the system from watching a few videos and not live "qualified" instruction. If you ever want to debate the merits of the technique or see for yourself how it works especially live or with NLTA "simmunition" please let me know. Stay safe.
Well you know what "assuming" does, right? There's no way in hell anyone can tell me it's safe to be past the 180 of a loaded muzzle, sorry, I'll pass.
And anyone who would let someone try this technique with live fire without qualified instruction and supervision not to mention working up to it is reckless. Now if you were being ambush attacked in a vehicle, as is unfortunately happening more frequently to Law Enforcement, the technique of the "Combat Position" which is a shooting position allowing you 360 aimed fire with no perceived "muzzle issue" may be of more interest to know. The "Close Quarter Position", the one you dislike, is not a shooting position but a Weapon Protection position. In fact the best weapon protection position many have ever seen. You can shoot IF you must from there but it is very fast to go to the aimed Combat Position. Pushing out to Isco/Weaver in that situation is not optimal and could have the attacker manipulating your gun. Either way, good conversation and thank you for commenting with tact.
Seems to me your putting your health and safety at risk when it's not necessary, a knife would be a much smarter, safer, and all around better tool at that range.
Unfortunately this is the limit of typing to communicate. How would you use that knife to defend well your seatbelt it in your patrol vehicle and I am shooting at you from the 5 o'clock 6 o'clock or 7 o'clock position? Most Optimal technique anywhere = CAR System Combat Position. Regards.
When something new is being talked about and somewhat interests me, I simply read about it and hear out from people who have tried it and get their opinion. Then I try it out myself whether it is a good or bad one to integrate in my skills.
I have tried this and it actually works...in close quarters as is explained in the system. ( that is from a distance of 2m to about 5 to 7m.)
The CAR system is an added skill you could use in addition to the is/weav. Something to look in to before saying that this is a bad system or a dangerous one..
Great video bro. Would want to learn more about this and get to visit your country to see it firsthand in your classes.
Denis Roque thank you for commenting. I'm glad you were able to glean some usefulness from these videos. They are not meant to be instructional as I would hate bad people to learn the technique.
I look forward to training with you one day. I have trips to South America, South Africa as well as the United States and hopefully Europe with in the next year.
These are all excellent videos. Extremely informative and broken down piece by piece. Well done keep them coming. Your knowledge and technique is very valuable to good samaritans such as myself who have not had combat experience but wish do defend against all threats foreign and domestic. Thank you so much.
Average Joe, it is been my experience that not just police and military but the responsibly armed civilian will be the ones first at scene and protecting my family when I'm not with them. Thank you for having the foresight to train yourself physically and mentally.
Very cool stuff, Jeff! I tried it a bit at the range this afternoon, and will take some practice. Thanks for sharing.
Frank Butta, thank you for commenting. I’m glad you’re able to get something out of the videos, obviously they’re not meant to be completely instructional as TH-cam is open source and I would not want bad people to learn. Stay safe and I hope the train with you soon.
Found this through the Kelly Worden video... Annyway.
Pity this system isn’t shown more…Just because it was in “That Videogame” and “That Movie”.
It almost feels like it is somewhat judged prematurely, because of the mind-set that:
If it is used in popular culture it´s “just cool looking”.
I might not have any weapons experience but I am into martial arts like BJJ, Bujinkan Ninjitsu and I used to do Krav Maga. And for me the fascination with C.A.R. is the systems mobility, the ambidexterity and the fact that only one eye can see the sights in the combat possession.
It seems to eliminate so many problems in one go.
Somehow C.A.R. just seems so much more fluent then more traditional stances.
Hello T.B. Photo and thank you for your comment. You have a lot of experience in moving the body properly via martial arts and the pistol in this case is an obvious extension of that.
There are many scientific reasons why the CAR System out performs other shooting positions. How the eyes work in sighting, dual sight picture, not needing to close and eye (thereby losing over 50% vision & depth perception) and more.
Also the non-scientific reasons or should I call them the not yet tested reasons. CAR was developed for contact distance and work its way out to traditional Weaver/Isosceles. Where Weaver/Isosceles work well at distance or where there is more time but do not work as well up close when weapon transitions, the "grey area" and of course vehicles, cockpits etc.
I actually do not "shoot CAR" exclusively, is it a position I adopt without thought when in a situation it will be of benefit in. With the average LE gunfight being 3'-5' feet, 3-5 rounds and 3-5 seconds and Civilian threats being up close typically as well, CAR is a great tool to have.
Great thoughts here sir! Keep the vids coming! :)
Carlton McLeod, thanks for the comment. I'm happy to be continuing with videos and am working on a couple of articles as well. The unknown history of the CAR System and its origins for those who are interested in how it actually came about. It was not just Mr. Paul Castle that created it. As well as further medical research into why it works so well relating to the eyes and sighting under Body Alarm Response.
T.B.Photo Yea I'd like to integrate this into traditional practice myself I don't care what others think as it does have a place in training being that this isn't taught anymore, at least to my knowledge, are there dvds or something you may know about?
T.B.Photo if you have no weapon experience then you don’t know shit about shooting. You are just shooting your mouth off trying to mesh martial arts with shooting. This stance is good for some situations but mostly it’s not a good technique for shooting.
I don't stick to only one technique, i train CAR for very close range stuff with sidearm, and use Thumbs forward wrist lock for the rest
Eduardo Lima Argimon, thank you for commenting. I do the exact same. CAR for situations close up and when there is more time or the situation dictates I use Isosceles/Weaver.
thanks for the response.
What is funny is, before seeing the video, i was training house clearing at my home.
And i more often use Car, to enter rooms where i don't know where my wife positioned the targets (I don't shoot them)
And when i can't pie the corner enough to see if there is an imediate threat waiting to take the gun from me.
And i find very easy to transition and point the thumbs forward.
And once inside the room, i transition to fully extended arms i can aim better this way.
And shooting on the move is more precise with extended arms, but as a martial arts practitioner, CAR is very very useful for several situations, thank you for sharing.
Really good video.
You got one more subscriber
Have you been trained in the CAR technique (opposite eye to sight)? Or did you adopt the compressed position out of feel?
I started experimenting on it couple years back.
I do use opposite eyes depending where i position my hands during the clearing, depending on the direction of breach i may use the left eye to aim the pistol that is being dominantly held by my right hand.
Or may use the right eye, and the same goes for the left hand as dominant grip.
For drawing the side arm and shooting from retention i sometimes do as the techniques presented on video, or sometimes do as Tom Cruise do in the collateral alley scene, but i'm pretty sure that, that isn't a CAR technique.
My drawing training is the same.
I have a BOB dummy, and i often first strike it, before shooting the target next to it.
I prefer to strike at knee height and train to break the knee and make the agressor instantly fall to the ground.
Or a combo of open palm strike to the nose and one punch to the throat ( The target next to it simulates a second agressor, i sometimes may put more)
To train inside my house i may use a GBB airsoft (Since i wont shoot inside it) Which is practical in some extent.
To better explain my self in the statement I made, I like to train several techniques, to get an edge on every situation I can.
I like to know what you point of view is regarding if a person should focus on training with their dominant hand, such as being right or left handed or if one should forget about choosing a side and learn to shoot equally well with both hands!? How you think of this for Defensive shooting?
Chris Erics, thank you for your question.
Context is everything. Are you a working professional that needs defensive skills daily? If so why would you stop training or do something differently with your weapon side that may impede your capabilities.
I think of it in the same way my martial arts teacher Kelly S Worden described to me training power/speed/technique with right and left hands. He told me that he could throw a baseball with his right with for more accuracy then with his left but he could certainly catch a fly ball with his left much faster than with his right. Given that he was right handed he had more motor control over the right side so his left side was much better for a jab or for a finger thrust to the eyes out of seemingly nowhere and his right had more of a power based structure two with strikes. He tempered this with learning centre line striking equal pressured and equal stance such as from Wing Chung
When talking about pistol skills, I would train my weapon side and have it dialled in but always be switching hands and looking for my reaction side capabilities.
With the CAR System for example you could either keep the gun in your weapon side and turn around 180° or you could switch to your reaction side and not have to move your body there by covering 180° behind you. But if I were to do that with my reaction side I would then switch over to my weapon side as it is my “preferred side“ as soon as reasonable.
Now of course reaction side can cover you off in a vehicle and expose you less from cover on that side etc.
Basically how much are you going to train? And what is your desired end state? And your timeline?
I would learn how to do phase 1 and phase 2 stoppage drills with my weapon side then at least a phase 1 drill with my reaction side. And of course one handed phase 1 and phase 2 stoppage drills on both sides.
It’s hard for me to answer this question without context and especially in an open public forum where I’m not wanting to really teach technique.
If this makes sense or not let me know and certainly feel free to contact me in person for specifics.
Great question, hopefully we can train together in person one day.
Stay safe.
I've seen the video showing only CAR techniques
If this is for concealed carry. How does it change? Does the support hand clear the garment whilst,"slapping low" prior to meeting hands together? Or should I maybe have a t-shirt always tucked in with a button up? Not trying to poke holes or Anything just really curious? Also how could I find a reputable company to train with in this system?(from New mexico)
Shelby buck, thank you for commenting and excellent question. Stage two of the draw or as it’s known in CAR, the Key Clearance - is The same position. As for initially getting a garment out of the way when drawing from IWB for example, there are a few variations on technique to do with the specific operator and typically a policy they have to work in at their department.
Simply put, yes you’re on the right track.
As for where you can get reputable training and a few more specifics on your first question, please email me and we can discuss that.
Stay safe.
that is a very intersting concept thanks
Dragilav1 thanks for commenting. Glad you find it interesting and I hope you can get something useful from the short video. Stay safe.
🤣🤣 🤣 That slide is going to take your eye out. 🤣🤣
😂 so far so good!
Great stuff.... but why are they shooting targets positioned a foot shorter than they are?
Roger Wood Thanks for commenting. Good observation, the targets are that low because we were sitting in chairs and the angles were getting too high for the back berm to be safe. Especially when reactive shooting to upper chest and head of a “standing” target.
Natural Tactical thanks for the reply. I saw other targets earlier in the video I thought would have been at a better height to run that drill. Just an observation, thanks again.
Roger Wood, thanks again for commenting and stay safe.
wow, gotta learn that!
Thanks for commenting, online and live classes running when you are ready 👍🏻
Cool.
I saw in a other video a draw straight to combat position. Do you do this draw but much faster to get from holster to combat?
Shelby buck, thanks for commenting. Simple answer is Yes. Slight situational changes may take place but the base technique is that.
Very nice!
Appreciate it, thanks for leaving a comment.
Awesome! One question: Do you focus on your front sight or the target when you aim?
Max William, thanks for the comment and question. I assume you mean from the Combat Position where the pistol is compressed slightly in front of my face, yes you would still look at your front sight. That is in conjunction with body alignment to the target. Those two things together allow me to shoot and move very quickly while still getting accurate combat shots.
Thank you for your fast anwser; you perfectly answered my question.
When you look at your front sight, you see it sharp and your target blurry. Does this mean that you initially focus on the surrounding (such that the front sight is blurry) until you select/determine a target and then focus on the front sight to aim? I'm asking because I saw that some intructors teach to permanently focus on the target while aiming (so the front sight is always blurry). I would be interested in your opinion on this.
Max, my short version, typing answer to this question is simply-it depends. Not going against what these other instructors have told you but that's contextual. Feel free to contact me by email as this is as far as I'll go open source as we now get into application of tactic which is not something I am comfortable offering to the world without knowing who they are.
I understand. Thank you very much!
Does C.A.R work in junction with red dot mounted handguns ?
Amazing.
Thank you for commenting, I am glad you like the technique.
You're welcome. I have an auto immune problem and can't run do to bad and damaged joints. I am not a gun nut, which nothing wrong if anyone is. From watching your video, I see the real value of getting proper training. I want to get a gun for protection soon.
I hope you are able to get your immune issue under control soon. Feel free to email me personally (email on contact page of my website www.NaturalTactical.com) as I can offer you a coupon code for $10.00 off the eLearning Center Axis Relock System at home intro course (offered by www.SabreTactical.com). You certainly do not need to run or over exert yourself for the eLearning course.
I was wondering if any LAW enforcement agencies already adopted the car shooting system?
MrBudoguy thank you for your comment. Over the years many departments have taken in the CAR System or the main principles of it. As the person who was trained transitioned out of the agencies training section the concept was typically no longer understood and changed or taught poorly. In turn the CAR technique was then changed or dropped.
The way firearms are taught is hard to change but CAR is immediately grabbed for "continued education" for Weapon Retention/Protection; Vehicle Ambush scenarios; Confined Spaces such as bus, plane, etc.
This pattern has happened time and time again.
The CAR System is a technique that fits perfectly into "traditional" firearms training. Unfortunately that fact it the most miss understood concept in the often ego charged training world.
Feel free to email or call me to discuss more specifics.
Stay safe.
Natural Tactical thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Yes, l too have witnessed this that ego holds back progress in shooting training.
I teach at the Police Academy of Belgium and just this year we got the memo that we have to teach the thumbs forward technique. A technique that is give or take 30 years old. Weaver and isosceles are also out of the picture. We finaly caught with the rest of the world.
MrBudoguy, yes it is the very definition of Kripkean Dogmatism. www.co2partners.com/are-you-a-kripkean-dogmatism/
Natural Tactical - very true. I’m glad there still are those who dare to reimagine the wheel or beter said make it stronger. 👍🏻
Agreed, something like CAR can fit in perfectly with more traditional techniques and outperform in certain situations. Best tool for the job so to speak.
Stay safe and thank you for your service.
Great video, thank you!
two questions:
a/ How many reps on the rubber gun do you think it takes a civilian to get, oh, half as fast / smooth as you in your draw and presentation (I know, slow is smooth, smooth is fast... ( : >))
b/ it might be the angle of the camera, but at 1:48 the muzzle of your weapon looks seriously close to the top of your left forearm,...
Lonesome Whistle, thank you for the comments and questions. In regards to how long will the training take? Obviously "it depends". It mainly depends on the type of training you get in (how it is structured). I would be happy to explain further please contact me via email.
As for the gun looking close to my forearm during fire - yes it is close but not unsafe.
Obviously these videos are not meant to teach the technique as I do not want that knowledge open source to everyone.
Please feel free to contact me so that I can be more specific with the best way we found to train this technique.
Can this Work with a DEagle & other high caliber weapons
Pat Baker, thank you for the comment. Yes, it will absolutely work for larger caliber weapons. In fact I will often demo Shooting a pistol grip 12 gauge shotgun using full power XX slug while holding it like a pistol, not in my shoulder. Certainly not a technique for self defence but it shows how the "felt" recoil is reduced and handled by the CAR Combat position.
Im finding hard to acquire targets with my non dominant eye!
Sérgio Magalhães Hello Sergio and thank you for commenting.
That happens to a lot of people who have a very dominant eye.
We were given a list of three exercises to help retrain your non-dominant eye as it has basically gone dormant.
Hopefully we can meet and train together in the near future I would be happy to share those exercises with you.
Stay safe.
Would this system change at all if drawing from my leg instead of my hip?
Nicholas Riley, thank you for your comment and question. If your pistol was on your left ankle for example the principles would be the same. Please feel free to contact me via email to discuss further if you like. Stay safe.
I want to learn this really bad!
W34RD07 Thank you for commenting and thank you for your interest. Stay safe.
How about basing the weak hand over the heart instead of over the navel? (For a righty.) Seems that grabbing your heart while flinching from a surprise is more natural.
Peter Bunnell thank you for the comment. This is a winning conversation to have. Unfortunately texting is a difficult way to have a conversation but let's try.
If you're talking about a "flinch" response then I prescribed to the method Mr. Tony Blauer is teaching. Three types of flinches (Primative, Protective & Tactical) which are all based on your Awareness (which in turn is based on Suddenness Proximity and Aggression). In that case you were simply going to move in whatever way the situation dictates given the bodies innate response.
To establish a tactic, like drawing the pistol, I can see how covering your heart or vital areas with your forearm and hand could be beneficial if your goal is to try to stop some lower caliber rounds from penetrating. When transitioning with for example a shotgun with no sling I will bring it across my vitals when going to the pistol. But if we are trying to design a draw stroke for the pistol that works from contact fighting distances and out I want my hands to be in a position to get my proper two handed grip as soon as possible.
If I draw the gun and put my reaction side hand above where I can draw the gun to height wise I will have a possible muzzling issue when the hands come together. This is all the more serious if I needed to shoot from stage two of the draw before hands come together.
I hope this makes sense via typing. Please feel free to email or call me to discuss this further. Contact info is in the about section on the TH-cam page.
Train safe and take care.
I was considering a fist over the heart to block a stab, where the fingers are tucked in. Moving to the grip from the belly is much safer. Experience and training wins out, thanks!
You are welcome. Thanks for the discussion.
What kind of pistol is that in this video??
Archie clay, thank you for your question - in the beginning of the video I am using a rubber red gun for safety and at the end of the video for live fire I am using a Glock model 17, 9 mm.
Natural Tactical I like the ease of control in that pistol and the slide seems to be moving effortlessly as you shoot. Out of all of the CAR videos I watched yours was the most explanatory.
Archie - I guess that's why the inventor of the system left it to me!
Of course I don't want the videos to be to explanatory as they're open source and I certainly don't want bad people to learn this but there is so much incorrect information out there on the system I feel I should try to at least guide people towards those who can show how to properly use it and describe it.
Hopefully I'll see you on live training someday, take care be safe.
espetáculo.
Back to this video again because of John Wick
Soplet, yes The John Wick movies have spurred a lot of interest from people in CAR. Too bad the technique isn’t correct in the movie but it does make for a good cinema experience!
John wick
Old Snake
Chris Mejia Leon Kennedy
Old Snake would do this mall ninja crap, he knows when a knife is a better tool for the job.
GTFOH
Actually Sam Fisher's been using it before everyone else.
That slide is going to rip his nipple off.
Not to mention the whole left side of his body is always past the muzzle, no thank you.
Miles J. thank you for leaving a comment. I assume you have passed judgement on the system from watching a few videos and not live "qualified" instruction. If you ever want to debate the merits of the technique or see for yourself how it works especially live or with NLTA "simmunition" please let me know. Stay safe.
Well you know what "assuming" does, right?
There's no way in hell anyone can tell me it's safe to be past the 180 of a loaded muzzle, sorry, I'll pass.
And anyone who would let someone try this technique with live fire without qualified instruction and supervision not to mention working up to it is reckless.
Now if you were being ambush attacked in a vehicle, as is unfortunately happening more frequently to Law Enforcement, the technique of the "Combat Position" which is a shooting position allowing you 360 aimed fire with no perceived "muzzle issue" may be of more interest to know.
The "Close Quarter Position", the one you dislike, is not a shooting position but a Weapon Protection position. In fact the best weapon protection position many have ever seen. You can shoot IF you must from there but it is very fast to go to the aimed Combat Position. Pushing out to Isco/Weaver in that situation is not optimal and could have the attacker manipulating your gun.
Either way, good conversation and thank you for commenting with tact.
Seems to me your putting your health and safety at risk when it's not necessary, a knife would be a much smarter, safer, and all around better tool at that range.
Unfortunately this is the limit of typing to communicate. How would you use that knife to defend well your seatbelt it in your patrol vehicle and I am shooting at you from the 5 o'clock 6 o'clock or 7 o'clock position? Most Optimal technique anywhere = CAR System Combat Position.
Regards.