Gary and Roy need to learn to accept that the United they played for doesn't exist anymore. Just like the Liverpool that Souness and Hansen played for no longer existed when Fergie's United were ruling the Premier League along with Wenger's Arsenal. We are in the City era now.
the reason it's hard to accept is because it's been artificially dismantled by the glazers... and artificially doped by the sheik in city's favour... this not a natural cycle where 1 team aged and fell off and another came up with brilliant coaching through a youth team.. this has been fixed this is one team being robbed and pillaged and dismantled and the other team cheating it's way forward through financial doping
Yeah and as a United fan though I've come to learn that it wasn't Manchester United I was supporting, I'm not from Manchester and have no stake in the community there, I was supporting that attitude, that style, that ethos of hard work and never say die, that never give up outlook. It's dead and gone, and so I'm left watching the Beckham documentary lamenting the days when Man United were Man United.
It’s hard watching everything you worked hard for get turned to nothing , you can’t have an era of success and not try to maintain it , it’s just unfair
Bruno Fernandes thinks that being a leader is all about always complaining to the referees all the time. He is always complaining, and his performances has been on and off. He must just focus on his performance,
Bruno and rashy just individualistic player under Erik. While they both not produce the other not stepping up. It sad this season all about players redemption, like Harry, Scotty, and Onana.
When the chips are down his attitude has always stunk. That’s when he need to be a motivator and get his players chins up, instead of whingeing at the ref. Poor man management of his players by Bruno and poor man management of his captain by ETH.
@@leemccccccc999and yet they reevaluated, executed a plan and are now title contenders again on an upwards trajectory They’ve finished 4th,4th,2nd,1st,3rd,2nd and 5th in the last 7 years winning a league title, league cup, FA cup, super cup and a CL( plus 2 finals) There is literally no comparison to be had between the two at the present time other than they both play in red.
I'm a Liverpool fan and I remember those years (90's &00's) where utd, arsenal and chelsea were better teams than us but my god they still didn't like playing us because we always gave it 100% and played with no inferiority, this utd team looks like it's given up before it's even kicked a ball
You ain't wrong even though Liverpool weren't winning any league title back then it was very very hard to beat them and at anfield a draw is a good point
Actually out of the three I think maybe Arsenal actually enjoyed playing Liverpool at Anfield as they somehow managed to get a result over there. That somewhat stopped after 2012 but was close in getting all three points in April last season.
Those were, tough times being a red but you have to go through that to reach the summit. Yeah Pool v United fixtures in the early half of the 90s were a thrill to watch but MY GOD they were nerve wracking games for us cos we REALLY didn't want to lose games to those lot. It meant the world to us and more, to beat them in the league even in the EPL era when we'd fallen from our perch and began to realise Sir Alex's MUFC had replaced us as top dogs of England. To this day I still don't know which signing was the worst: Souness signing Paul Stewart, Hodgson signing Christian Poulsen (Konchesky was pretty pants too now that I remember..) or Rodgers signing Mario Balotelli. 😀
How can Keane not break anything in that studio, while watching that kind of performances, from a team he used to lead and represents (for people like us), is beyond me 😂
I hate man United I take a lot of pleasure in seeing them being poor but if a player like Keane was around now he would be called a bully he would be driving out of the club modern football is so soft now it’s unreal
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@@DC94359and the saves he made were for the camera. Big daft dives to try and give the illusion he was great. And these Utd fans lap it up like the dopes they are.
Jamie is bang on about the manager's job to improve players. We've seen players previously written off at Newcastle, Villa, Spurs, and Brighton, all step up because of the manager. That hasn't happened at Man United
Utd players have huge egos and pay checks to match. Too many of them have an entitled “I’ve already made it attitude” which Newcastle players don’t have. Newcastle players have something to prove. Utd players won’t take ownership of these poor performances.
The cycle of Rashford. Run down your contract to final 6 months. Score in consecutive games and get compared to Mbappe. Sign a new contract and return to average self. Repeat
Thing is everything Roy says is true, if my Sunday team were 2-0 down I would say sit in for 10 and let’s get a bit of control because next goal is massive 2-1 is a better platform than 3-0. It’s basics that PROFESSIONAL footballers can’t do.
Roy Keane speaks truth to those that can’t handle it. It’s why he won’t succeed at being a manager or even a coach - too many good footballers crack under that type of pressure. But it ensures he’s an excellent pundit. The less filters the better.
He is not an excellent pundit. You must be fair and realistic in criticisms. You can't have strategic players missing and play good football. Any manager will struggle with the list of injuries he has. Guardiola is blessed with numerous top players in each position. His tactics will be useless if he doesn't have them. Forget Roy Keane!
@@mattr543 atleast now united is somehow fighting last season it was always 6-0 ,7-0 but now 3-1 arsenal , and 0 -3 man city ,2-0 spurs ,what an upgrade ,waiting for Liverpool vs man u now
Manchester United playing Maguire in defense against Haland has to be one of the boldest acts in football history. Ten Hag should win a trophy just for that.
@@mjidilahamza9317 Maguire is never good. He telegraphs everything he is going to do. Even a simple pass you can see it coming, plus he passes really slow. Next time hes playing watch his passes, its always slowly along the grass like hes playing with children
Agree. Players just sit out their contracts. If they or not - they dont care. United is such a huge Club that just being a united player weighs heavy...
This is what I've been questioning recently about Erik Ten Hag's style of play. At Ajax, he had them playing beautiful football with positive results. I'm assuming that's why United hired him to replicate that style of play and achieve more given the financial resources at United. It's been 18 months and when you look at United, they're literally a far cry from the Ajax team that made a lot of noise back in 2019 in Europe.
not possible without the right players. Arsenal under Arteta for first two years were absolutely diabolical and disjointed. It took Arteta a while to sort out the personnel required to play that way. Ten Hag has right figured out United can only do anything on the counter and is playing to that strength, it however looks quite ugly.
I know this will be controversial, but i think Dutch football has been overrated in the past decade. Yes, they have the Johann Cruyff pedigree and what not, but their style needs modification in modern football where footballers are fitter, more physical and can press hard. Look where Ajax are now in their league, they are teetering in the relegation zone.
And if you knew football it’s nothing to do with him… stick him in the city’s team he would score goals week in week out! He you understand ? Hojland is a cf like haaland .. haaland player with wingers, cross the ball. Man Utd play with rashford who does what for his cf? … please tell
@@lukescrimshaw7678don’t compare them. City were shite in November, December and January last season and Haaland still scored regularly. Hojland is 0 in 7 games.
Gary’s right. How on Earth are players signed by other managers like Maguire, Lindelof, and Martial (who was signed in 2015) still at the club? Like for instance Klopp arrived at Liverpool and had a careful assessment of which of the current already-there players could he improve and work with, and which ones were no good and thus could be got rid of.
It took Klopp several windows and he was happy to work with Gomez, Lovren, Sturridge, Lallana, Milner, Henderson, Coutinho, Lucas, Firmino etc... The key difference is that Klopp improved the players that were already there.
Klopp has been at Liverpool, I think, eight years now. United cannot keep a manager even to have three transfer windows. Chopping and changing managers because you used to win trophies a while ago is a losing strategy - for the fans, for the club, and for the players.
@@richarddunne9802 Those players you listed at Liverpool were all cleared out after a few up and down seasons. Ten Hag inherited a much larger and more broken squad than Klopp.
@@Art-is-craft That's correct. They were all cleared out with Premier League and Champions League winners medals, except for Coutinho, who was sold for a record sum, Lucas, and Sturridge, who got only a Champions League medal, poor fella. And Milner, Henderson, and Firmino were cleared out with six trophies each, having made it to three CL finals, and Gomez didn't get the clear out memo and is still starting games.
Roy is spot on - we are just all over the place & same issues as last year & the year before and......thats right the year before that! How many managers do you go through before enough is enough. Even Sancho is waiting to see if Erik gets the boot as that will take care of his problems....We are just a scruffy outfit who aren't well drilled & look leggy
Utd look nothing like they did before Ten Hag. The team show flashes of excellence in attack but he has only had one full season the job and needs at least 3 seasons to build a team.
Utd look nothing like they did before Ten Hag. The team show flashes of excellence in attack but he has only had one full season the job and needs at least 3 seasons to build a team.
Utd need a manager like Roy and a couple of bulldogs on the pitch. They might not be top level talent, but they need passion and team that has a solid core of players. They need heart
Ten hag has not improved anyone, if anything they all regressed, mount amrabat evans rubbish signings that no other top manager would ever make. We have no midfield only casmirio, attack is also one the worst scoring in the league. Bruno is the worst player in the team that gets picked regardless, and he bins Sancho and Fred
I think the decision to get rid of Ragnick which was co-signed by Ten Haag was the first mistake from the manager because it ultimately showed that Ten Haag thought he could carry the club on his shoulders which he has now shown he cant. As a result he's gone on to buy a 90m winger in anthony only for bruno to play his position, and then has gone on to sign mount, only for bruno to play his decision. So he's actually handicapped himself by bloating the squad with a lot of imbalance and average talent ID. The truth is he is not a world class manager who can lead like a klopp, pep, jose, emery. He's a coach that needs an operating system around him in order for him to be settled but he killed himself of that opportunity by not fighting for ralf and the glazers are at fault too. United fans were to quick to call him elite based on his ajax days, when you really look at it, Ajax have a cultural system set where they produce talents developed in the cruyffian way of playing which allowed erik to add his style which is "transitional" to an already possession based squad which is why Ajax 18/19 were so dynamic and fun to watch
Look at Ajax now ? Ten games 5 points last in the legeau Erik is gone and Ajax is a broke…he needs time is a good coach with these players you win nothing they play only for money not for the bagde
Good conversation. I generally agreed with all of them. They each offered a good insight into what's going on at the club and all had very good points to make. There is no one quick fix at United.
Ten hag must be baffled as to why these players can’t show the focus and commitment of last season. Having Shaw, Martinez and AWB missing for the whole season is a big part of it but a lot of these players just have weak mentalities.
United weren't even good last season They had to rely on Liverpool, Chelsea, and Tottenham having really bad seasons to secure an undeserved place in the top four.
@@darrenjones7607 yeh it’s so obvious that Martinez and Shaw are key to how Erik wants to play out from the back and yet he’s having to field, Maguire, Evans and Lindelof at the moment. I knew from the second we lost Martinez in particular this defence would fall apart. He’s the real captain of this team.
It seemed as though when ten haag came certain players definitely improved rashford probably being the best example. But after a while it looks as though certain players like rashford and bruno and a lot of the others have fallen back into old habits. It must be incredibly frustrating for ten haag to try and keep these players strong mentally as well as physically. They are all just overpaid but also so weak and so undisciplined. It's going to need huge investment to dig out ALL that toxicity in that dressing room.
About time clubs came down on players. In any other industry an employee not pulling his weight would be sacked! Yet no-one has ever heard of a football player being sacked for not pulling his weight. The footballing industry is its own worst enemy!
I only watched the match highlights admittedly but what immediately caught my eye was Hannibal Mejbri just jogging back when Newcastle scored their first and ball watching for the third. On both occasions he waved his arms and pointed at others. With the lack of opportunities he’s had you’d have thought he’d be charging around trying to impress. Did the opposite.
There’s no anger in that United team… you look at back in the day, so many of our players had anger in their veins… determination… our team has absolutely nothing…
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@@Michael-tb6riListen boys, supporting United is much more than just watching the team on the pitch. The club’s history shows us that United may wane and peak but the red flag keeps flying high. We’ve been relegated before, we’ve had tragedies, but United always bounce back. I don’t know how long it’ll take, but we’ll be back don’t worry. Football works in peaks and troughs
@@folakemilaguda7828 what exactly about them? AWB has always been the best at 1v1s. Rashford hit a purple patch and has since again dropped to his usual standards. Like what exactly has the improvement been.
It's not the Manager. The constants over the years have been woeful players. Mctominay rashford Bruno and Maguire. Until those 4 are shipped out nothing will change
You got Hojlund and Garnacho that are kids and yes still raw, but at least working their ass off for the club, don't talk about senior players, 24-27 year olds struggling to cope with the pressure of playing for Man United. Plus, lets stop pretending like its Man United of of the 90's and 00's, still a big club commercially, but the pressure to win isn't anywhere close to what it was, maybe thats down to unrealistic expectations from fans and the media.
Worst utd team in years, sacking ten hag isn't the answer, maybe they should have got postecoglu? Even the substitutions made absolutely no difference.
How is eth supposed to play his way with maguire, evans, lindelof, mctommy and erikson 😭 they need to sell the dead wood but they cant cause they gave long contracts with big wages 😂
Think Evans is there for not much of a wage given that he was supposed to be 5th or 6th choice (and I can't think of a better 5th choice CB in the Premier League) and certainly wasn't supposed to be playing games like this, more like the Burnley game where to be honest he was MOTM and assisted superbly for the Man U goal. It's just cruelty to put a 35-year old who was very decent in his day out there against the likes of Haaland and Bernardo.
Sell? The Glazers gave him Evans, Eriksen, Reguilon, Amrabat, Weghorst, Sabitzer on free transfer loans. You think the problem is that Utd need to sell the players they just recently took on as free transfers? LOL
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot bro what! I mentioned two people that were brought in loans and im not specifically talking about selling players the glazers have brought in. Im talking about getting rid player ETH doesnt want lol. Personally i couldnt care though cause i love that united are in the mud 😂
Bernardo Silva was running them off the park. He was running circles around them. He could have put on a man u shirt just for fun and scored an own goal and come back as a city player. He was playing them all 😊
Rashford’s level is THIS level… he had a spike in quality last season… that wasn’t his true level. McTominay is bang average. Johnny Evans? Really? Being a United fan is nauseating at this point.
Oh yes, here is Carragher, who said, not so long ago, that Cristiano is the main problem, and blamed it all on him. Then there is Gary, who never said anything specific about the Glazers failures, until it started to be fashionable for him. Gary always does this: changes his opinions depending how the wind blows. Both these 'experts' blamed Ronaldo for various things, yet here we are, with the same awful, toxic and boring United. And the results are, in fact, way worse than they were with Cristiano. Ten Hag broke all the awful, negative records at United. He is bland, terrible coach. Every single thing Ronaldo said about this club in the famous interview is spot on, and comes more true every day. If anything, the media, pundits and some ex-teammates of Cristiano should beg for his forgivness! It's disgraceful how he was treated after all he has done for this club, and during period of time when he was still mourning his son, and his daughter was sick in the hospital.
Bro if i told you two years ago evans would be playing at united along with maguie 😮 lindelof left back and mctominay in midfield in the starting 11 after 1 billion spent you have fainted
Gary’s right in my opinion, Man United are more popular brand than they are a football team. Every time them players get on the pitch they know if they put a foot wrong the whole internet is going to grill them; it definitely has a phycological knock on affect and you can see it from the performances.
The big problem is that they're still in denial about their status as a club. They're not who they were under Ferguson. As a Liverpool supporter, I think we're the only ones who can empathize with where Utd are now. We've been through it, from being on top to being also-rans. Its hard to take. We needed a generational manager like Klopp to pull us out of it, and we would have a lot more titles under our belt if it wasn't for the oil cheats. Utd will just have to deal with it until they can sort it out. What doesn't help is sitting around with the mentality of "We're Man Utd, how can we be this bad?". Accept where you are and work towards getting back to where you were. It could take almost thirty years.
Accept where drivelpool is dude nowhere. 1 prem title in 34 years. And you spout oil wells are drivelpools obstacle for not winning more titles lololololol. Here's a tissue cry cry and cry and wish hard for a oil well .
@@marknewbold2583I respectfully disagree. You could make the same argument for Houllier or Benitez, but none of them achieved what Klopp has. For a time we were damn near unbeatable.
@@carlkermode899 I do not thing this has anything to do with Utd status. If it was not for oil money Utd would have won the title twice since Ferguson left. What klopp has done at Liverpool is nothing short of amazing. I do not think people fully understand how much damage has been done to football.
@@Art-is-craft I disagree. Also, saying that they would have won the league twice because they finished 2nd is is a bit of a stretch. Without oil money, lots of other results would have been different and going from 2nd to 1st would not be guaranteed. They're simply not the force they were under Ferguson. In living memory Utd have only been successful under two managers, Busby and Ferguson. Now they'll have to wait for the next one to come along.
As a Utd fan, I don’t know why everyone is complaining 😂. We are now a mid table club. After the Glazers decided not to sell I knew mediocrity would continue.
Roy talking sense. Gary giving them too much credit in my opinion.
Don’t deserve credit at this stage
Does he do anything else (neville)
neville might aswell become a man city fan
That's his job
Gary has always defended Utd.
Gary and Roy need to learn to accept that the United they played for doesn't exist anymore. Just like the Liverpool that Souness and Hansen played for no longer existed when Fergie's United were ruling the Premier League along with Wenger's Arsenal. We are in the City era now.
They can't accept it that's the problem.
the reason it's hard to accept is because it's been artificially dismantled by the glazers... and artificially doped by the sheik in city's favour... this not a natural cycle where 1 team aged and fell off and another came up with brilliant coaching through a youth team.. this has been fixed
this is one team being robbed and pillaged and dismantled and the other team cheating it's way forward through financial doping
Exactly. It coincidently ended when SAF left. They are not dominating the league or scaring anyone in the CL.
Yeah and as a United fan though I've come to learn that it wasn't Manchester United I was supporting, I'm not from Manchester and have no stake in the community there, I was supporting that attitude, that style, that ethos of hard work and never say die, that never give up outlook.
It's dead and gone, and so I'm left watching the Beckham documentary lamenting the days when Man United were Man United.
It’s hard watching everything you worked hard for get turned to nothing , you can’t have an era of success and not try to maintain it , it’s just unfair
Keane is spot on . Even our fresh legs made no effort. Really frustrating to watch men not try
No he's not
As a Chelsea fan I understand your pain
@@Mr.LevelUp.yes, only we Chelsea fans can understand their pain🤬
They tried. They're just not very good. So they started kicking people.
They not playing for Ten Hag
Bruno Fernandes thinks that being a leader is all about always complaining to the referees all the time. He is always complaining, and his performances has been on and off. He must just focus on his performance,
Bruno and rashy just individualistic player under Erik. While they both not produce the other not stepping up. It sad this season all about players redemption, like Harry, Scotty, and Onana.
When the chips are down his attitude has always stunk. That’s when he need to be a motivator and get his players chins up, instead of whingeing at the ref. Poor man management of his players by Bruno and poor man management of his captain by ETH.
Agree, missing the leadership element, the belief and positivity
If he started complaining to his players like he does the ref all the time, we might see a bit more effort from them...........
Most operated player in imo
Just look at Gravenberch for Liverpool. Jota, konate, szobazlai. This is real recruitment
Spot on mate
Liverpool we’re mid table and in exactly the same position United was last season
@@leemccccccc999and yet they reevaluated, executed a plan and are now title contenders again on an upwards trajectory
They’ve finished 4th,4th,2nd,1st,3rd,2nd and 5th in the last 7 years winning a league title, league cup, FA cup, super cup and a CL( plus 2 finals)
There is literally no comparison to be had between the two at the present time other than they both play in red.
@@leemccccccc999yea and thanks to good recruitment where are they now in the table
@@userjim83Salahs carried you through end of 😂
I'm a Liverpool fan and I remember those years (90's &00's) where utd, arsenal and chelsea were better teams than us but my god they still didn't like playing us because we always gave it 100% and played with no inferiority, this utd team looks like it's given up before it's even kicked a ball
I was thinking the exact same thing. We never went in any of the games half heartedly. Big teams couldn't take Liverpool for granted.
You ain't wrong even though Liverpool weren't winning any league title back then it was very very hard to beat them and at anfield a draw is a good point
Actually out of the three I think maybe Arsenal actually enjoyed playing Liverpool at Anfield as they somehow managed to get a result over there. That somewhat stopped after 2012 but was close in getting all three points in April last season.
We are abyssmal bro.
Those were, tough times being a red but you have to go through that to reach the summit. Yeah Pool v United fixtures in the early half of the 90s were a thrill to watch but MY GOD they were nerve wracking games for us cos we REALLY didn't want to lose games to those lot. It meant the world to us and more, to beat them in the league even in the EPL era when we'd fallen from our perch and began to realise Sir Alex's MUFC had replaced us as top dogs of England. To this day I still don't know which signing was the worst: Souness signing Paul Stewart, Hodgson signing Christian Poulsen (Konchesky was pretty pants too now that I remember..) or Rodgers signing Mario Balotelli. 😀
How can Keane not break anything in that studio, while watching that kind of performances, from a team he used to lead and represents (for people like us), is beyond me 😂
I hate man United I take a lot of pleasure in seeing them being poor but if a player like Keane was around now he would be called a bully he would be driving out of the club modern football is so soft now it’s unreal
I think they have a boxing bag in the dressing room...
He's been seeing it for 10 years 😂
He's used to it already
Animals act that way mate
Roy Keane just says it as it is no holding back and no beating around the bush 👏🏾
That’s Roy Keane for you, he’s a no nonsense player!
@@MjII7 Irish naturally
If it wasn't for Onana .... could have been 5 or 6-0 ... brilliant saves from him
That's why teams have a goalkeeper between the posts
Thats his job.
Try 10-0
@@lfcgero35point is he was the only player doing his job😂. And hes not the one whos earning 350k a week.
I cant see his distribution impacting the game. Shocking.
Micah Richards just sitting back with glee watching the others languish 😂
He’s just laughing at how the tables have turned since Micah’s days at City
These are established international footballers for goodness sake - Roy Keane
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@@duran9664 what's liverpools excuse?
@@duran9664FACT - You are crying.
@@duran9664seek professional help mate
0:56 Roy Keane ready to pounce on Nevilles "they're good lads" nonsense 😂
The only positive in this game for United was Onana. Could’ve been 6-0 City if it weren’t for his crucial saves!
@@duran9664FACT - You are crying.
Absolute bollox. Onana made saves, but he still nearly gave City 2 goals. He was so shakey
@@DC94359and the saves he made were for the camera. Big daft dives to try and give the illusion he was great. And these Utd fans lap it up like the dopes they are.
@@DC94359Exactly. He’s just like De Gea unfortunately. He makes these fine saves, but he’s also a blunder away.
@@DC943592 of them Haaland saves were phenomenal. Let's be honest you could have been there 360 minutes you still never would have scored
Jamie is bang on about the manager's job to improve players. We've seen players previously written off at Newcastle, Villa, Spurs, and Brighton, all step up because of the manager. That hasn't happened at Man United
True, that's why no other club buy man UTD players with high price and on improve status in the last ten years
Utd players have huge egos and pay checks to match. Too many of them have an entitled “I’ve already made it attitude” which Newcastle players don’t have. Newcastle players have something to prove. Utd players won’t take ownership of these poor performances.
Newcastle players that were almost relegated made it to top 4 using the same players.
Rashford back to his normal since now secured his bag with over £350,000 a week.
Yeah he just takes the money without earning it
Great bit of business from rashy
The cycle of Rashford.
Run down your contract to final 6 months.
Score in consecutive games and get compared to Mbappe.
Sign a new contract and return to average self.
Repeat
armchair managers are funny :)
Indeed. One good season (last season) and dismal every other game.
Roys smirk and sigh when he said "Oh Gary" 😂😂
Micah looking at both Gary and Roy like a student watching 2 professors argue whether his project deserves full marks or not 😂
Say what you want to say without speaking in riddles. Micah deserves to be there.
@@AdrWalker-cq6hoyes of course. I’ll never forget when he burst onto the scene
@@AdrWalker-cq6hoFor what?
Spot on😂😂😂
@AdrWalker-cq6ho what are the requirements, if Micah deserves to be there?
Thing is everything Roy says is true, if my Sunday team were 2-0 down I would say sit in for 10 and let’s get a bit of control because next goal is massive 2-1 is a better platform than 3-0. It’s basics that PROFESSIONAL footballers can’t do.
That's why you Sunday league boy.
thats true. if my fifa team was down by 2-0, i would restart the game
Cheers Jeff
@@yonchrrpathetic response.
@@yonchrrPaul Scholes said the same thing in reference to Arsenal a few years back.
Funniest part of the game was Ten Hag sending in both sh*t Anthonys at the 85th minute letting the fans decide which is the more sh*ttier one
Battle of the Craps.
Both better than Rashford regardless
@@jamesedwards3410 Facts!
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😂😂😂😂
"It was a derby, show a bit of character." 😂
Rashford is making over double of Bellingham. Let it sink in.
Bellingham will struggle in this Man Utd team. Let THAT sink in.
Rushford is shite
I don't know why you are lying? Bellingham is making 400k per week while Rashford is estimated to be on 325k-350k per week
Bellingham goal bonus must be looking after itself at the moment at real.
Bellingham struggles in this United team?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good job he doesn’t have that concern let that sink in
Roy Keane speaks truth to those that can’t handle it.
It’s why he won’t succeed at being a manager or even a coach - too many good footballers crack under that type of pressure.
But it ensures he’s an excellent pundit. The less filters the better.
He is old school and modern footballers are pampered too much, over paid, and whine..they cannot handle old school.
@@russellharvey698 so why his Guardiola been so successful? He’s about the same age as Keane.
@@mnnh1many reasons.. for example his demeanour is entirely different from keane.
He is not an excellent pundit. You must be fair and realistic in criticisms. You can't have strategic players missing and play good football. Any manager will struggle with the list of injuries he has. Guardiola is blessed with numerous top players in each position. His tactics will be useless if he doesn't have them. Forget Roy Keane!
Media: let’s get Ten Hag sacked
*GETS SACKED*
Media: Ten Hag should’ve been given more time
Hope they don’t sack him yet. However these results against rivals need to end quickly
Need content to keep the views going haha
That's man utd fans for you
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@@mattr543 atleast now united is somehow fighting last season it was always 6-0 ,7-0 but now 3-1 arsenal , and 0 -3 man city ,2-0 spurs ,what an upgrade ,waiting for Liverpool vs man u now
Gary lost Roy at “good lads” 😂
🤣🤣🤣
It was gg’s before it started, did you see that ManU starting lineup ? Wild.
Manchester United playing Maguire in defense against Haland has to be one of the boldest acts in football history.
Ten Hag should win a trophy just for that.
It’s goal bonanza season whenever Haaland lines up against Utd these days.
Ten Hag has no other options. Varangian cannot stay fit so he cannot play him every game.
And maguire was actually one of our better players that game shows how crap the team is doing right now 😂
maguire was good at this game to be honest
@@mjidilahamza9317 Maguire is never good. He telegraphs everything he is going to do. Even a simple pass you can see it coming, plus he passes really slow. Next time hes playing watch his passes, its always slowly along the grass like hes playing with children
Garry Neville is so naive if he thinks there isn’t players just there for the money
If he admits that maybe he has to admit what he's done just for money
Agree. Players just sit out their contracts. If they or not - they dont care. United is such a huge Club that just being a united player weighs heavy...
Maguire literallly had the chance to go and be a starter at West Ham and rejected it because of money
Money bags Manchester utd players.
@@Wormholt it's not all about Harry.
There's nothing quite as sweet as man Utd fans' tears after a loss
I'm a MU fan, and even I cracked up at this.
Garry don't want the truth but Kean is always on point
Yeah but he’s not got all the answers. Otherwise he’d have had more success in his own time in management.
Roy Keane is a legend 🤣🫶🏻
Roy delivering bites to have us coming back to these videos for years to come 😂😂😂😂
This is what I've been questioning recently about Erik Ten Hag's style of play. At Ajax, he had them playing beautiful football with positive results. I'm assuming that's why United hired him to replicate that style of play and achieve more given the financial resources at United. It's been 18 months and when you look at United, they're literally a far cry from the Ajax team that made a lot of noise back in 2019 in Europe.
not possible without the right players. Arsenal under Arteta for first two years were absolutely diabolical and disjointed. It took Arteta a while to sort out the personnel required to play that way.
Ten Hag has right figured out United can only do anything on the counter and is playing to that strength, it however looks quite ugly.
Its almost 2024 dude
Because this Utd squad isn't good enough to play the Ajax did under EtH. Either physically or mentally.
I know this will be controversial, but i think Dutch football has been overrated in the past decade. Yes, they have the Johann Cruyff pedigree and what not, but their style needs modification in modern football where footballers are fitter, more physical and can press hard. Look where Ajax are now in their league, they are teetering in the relegation zone.
@@swordofkhaine8464 ten hag already got some his player but somehow making united worse than last season
I wonder if Hojland will actually score a premiere league goal before xmas lol
And if you knew football it’s nothing to do with him… stick him in the city’s team he would score goals week in week out! He you understand ? Hojland is a cf like haaland .. haaland player with wingers, cross the ball. Man Utd play with rashford who does what for his cf? … please tell
@@lukescrimshaw7678don’t compare them. City were shite in November, December and January last season and Haaland still scored regularly.
Hojland is 0 in 7 games.
If Haaland was number 9 for United even he wouldn't score for United ,
A younger version of Weghorst 😂
@@scoopermanu correct 💯
Gary’s right. How on Earth are players signed by other managers like Maguire, Lindelof, and Martial (who was signed in 2015) still at the club? Like for instance Klopp arrived at Liverpool and had a careful assessment of which of the current already-there players could he improve and work with, and which ones were no good and thus could be got rid of.
It took Klopp several windows and he was happy to work with Gomez, Lovren, Sturridge, Lallana, Milner, Henderson, Coutinho, Lucas, Firmino etc...
The key difference is that Klopp improved the players that were already there.
Because one two summer transfer windows is not enough to build a team.
Klopp has been at Liverpool, I think, eight years now. United cannot keep a manager even to have three transfer windows. Chopping and changing managers because you used to win trophies a while ago is a losing strategy - for the fans, for the club, and for the players.
@@richarddunne9802
Those players you listed at Liverpool were all cleared out after a few up and down seasons. Ten Hag inherited a much larger and more broken squad than Klopp.
@@Art-is-craft That's correct. They were all cleared out with Premier League and Champions League winners medals, except for Coutinho, who was sold for a record sum, Lucas, and Sturridge, who got only a Champions League medal, poor fella.
And Milner, Henderson, and Firmino were cleared out with six trophies each, having made it to three CL finals, and Gomez didn't get the clear out memo and is still starting games.
This is Uniteds level now...
Been that over a decade now and many more to come
Bad more than bad
this is manchester uniiiitchhed. (said in robotic neville manc accent)
Nothing new here.
Roy is spot on - we are just all over the place & same issues as last year & the year before and......thats right the year before that! How many managers do you go through before enough is enough. Even Sancho is waiting to see if Erik gets the boot as that will take care of his problems....We are just a scruffy outfit who aren't well drilled & look leggy
Utd look nothing like they did before Ten Hag. The team show flashes of excellence in attack but he has only had one full season the job and needs at least 3 seasons to build a team.
Utd look nothing like they did before Ten Hag. The team show flashes of excellence in attack but he has only had one full season the job and needs at least 3 seasons to build a team.
Premier league wages, league one football.
Utd need a manager like Roy and a couple of bulldogs on the pitch. They might not be top level talent, but they need passion and team that has a solid core of players. They need heart
The fact united only last 3 -0 is a miracle. Ten haag is not suited for big clubs
Lucky he’s at a bang average mid-table club like United then.
@@conor9436 like pochettino
@@conor9436😂😂
United isn't a big club tho
Freakin love Roy ……… There all good lads “Give me a BREAK” 😂😂😂
It was *embarrassing*
Ten hag has not improved anyone, if anything they all regressed, mount amrabat evans rubbish signings that no other top manager would ever make. We have no midfield only casmirio, attack is also one the worst scoring in the league. Bruno is the worst player in the team that gets picked regardless, and he bins Sancho and Fred
@@azw3884
What do you expect a manager to do in one full season. Utd finished the league over 70 points last season and season before was 58 points.
Aged like fine wine
I think the decision to get rid of Ragnick which was co-signed by Ten Haag was the first mistake from the manager because it ultimately showed that Ten Haag thought he could carry the club on his shoulders which he has now shown he cant. As a result he's gone on to buy a 90m winger in anthony only for bruno to play his position, and then has gone on to sign mount, only for bruno to play his decision.
So he's actually handicapped himself by bloating the squad with a lot of imbalance and average talent ID. The truth is he is not a world class manager who can lead like a klopp, pep, jose, emery. He's a coach that needs an operating system around him in order for him to be settled but he killed himself of that opportunity by not fighting for ralf and the glazers are at fault too.
United fans were to quick to call him elite based on his ajax days, when you really look at it, Ajax have a cultural system set where they produce talents developed in the cruyffian way of playing which allowed erik to add his style which is "transitional" to an already possession based squad which is why Ajax 18/19 were so dynamic and fun to watch
Look at Ajax now ? Ten games 5 points last in the legeau Erik is gone and Ajax is a broke…he needs time is a good coach with these players you win nothing they play only for money not for the bagde
@@mrgamble3866 ajax failing is due to the club failing has nothing to do with the managers
@@timeisontheessence
One full season is not enough time to build a team. Rangnick never should have been at Utd.
I love that Roy said all of this when Ronaldo was still around when everyone was blaming Ronaldo for these loses
Keane most honest man there
Good conversation. I generally agreed with all of them. They each offered a good insight into what's going on at the club and all had very good points to make. There is no one quick fix at United.
Ten hag must be baffled as to why these players can’t show the focus and commitment of last season. Having Shaw, Martinez and AWB missing for the whole season is a big part of it but a lot of these players just have weak mentalities.
United weren't even good last season They had to rely on Liverpool, Chelsea, and Tottenham having really bad seasons to secure an undeserved place in the top four.
Massive part in my opinion . Especially Martinez his passing is a huge miss
No man u is going to go another 10 years ,the problem ain't even players ,Ralf talked about heart surgery needed but u lots didn't listen
@@darrenjones7607 yeh it’s so obvious that Martinez and Shaw are key to how Erik wants to play out from the back and yet he’s having to field, Maguire, Evans and Lindelof at the moment. I knew from the second we lost Martinez in particular this defence would fall apart. He’s the real captain of this team.
You dont have football knowledge 😂😂😂
It seemed as though when ten haag came certain players definitely improved rashford probably being the best example. But after a while it looks as though certain players like rashford and bruno and a lot of the others have fallen back into old habits.
It must be incredibly frustrating for ten haag to try and keep these players strong mentally as well as physically. They are all just overpaid but also so weak and so undisciplined. It's going to need huge investment to dig out ALL that toxicity in that dressing room.
A clear out needs to happen but cannot be done in one season.
The options ten hag has at the back due to injurys has to be taken into account.
Love Garry and Roy's input, they are so on the money...
Good to hear from Gary ‘the weight of the world’ Neville
About time clubs came down on players. In any other industry an employee not pulling his weight would be sacked! Yet no-one has ever heard of a football player being sacked for not pulling his weight. The footballing industry is its own worst enemy!
Thanks for posting!
The thing I noticed, is it didn’t feel like a derby. Usually both sides hammer each other to a standstill. It just felt like a normal PL game.
God I bloody love Roy Keane
It always about Man Utd on Sky.
Gary of course mentions Martial as being not good enough... Marcus Rashford is nowhere near good enough.
1:12 was waiting for Roy to say “ Gary it’s 2 yards man “
Maybe Keane would be the best choice in that dugout.
Pundits can speak freely, no penalty if they are wide of the mark. Managers live and die by their decisions
I think if Roy Keane and Gary Neville put their shoes on the field right now, they would save Manchester United right now.
I feel that I’ve watched this video time and time again it’s the same points week in week out 😂 and I’m a Man U fan!
With Neville still talking the same shite.
Roy is the best. I still support TenHag but somethings wrong.
Gary doesn’t think players are their for the money??? Maguire literally turned West Ham down because they weren’t offering as much😂😂
Wow. He didn't just turn them down, he 'literally' turned them down.
@@macman975thank Fock!
I only watched the match highlights admittedly but what immediately caught my eye was Hannibal Mejbri just jogging back when Newcastle scored their first and ball watching for the third. On both occasions he waved his arms and pointed at others. With the lack of opportunities he’s had you’d have thought he’d be charging around trying to impress. Did the opposite.
There’s no anger in that United team… you look at back in the day, so many of our players had anger in their veins… determination… our team has absolutely nothing…
Gary Neville sounds so smart, basically a tactical genius. He should be a manager
He was! How did that work out? 😂
That was sarcasm, right ?
You well and truly whooshed the first replier !! 😊😊
Look at most of the NUFC squad, many of whom Bruce didn’t rate yet and were here 4-5 years ago. Howe has them playing so well.
Roy Keane next Man Utd manager 😂
No way would he take it.
Roy Keane with the deep breath listening to Gary ...LOL
"To be fair at this particular sort of moment of what would be time, these united players need to their jobs!" - Gary Keane
🛑🛑FACT🛑🛑Since 2021, 38 of major referring errors ended up, directly or indirectly, in favor of state-owned clubs🤏Someone needs to investigate the lucrative refereeing contracts that PL referees have been getting from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 & UAE🇦🇪
@@duran9664FACT - You are crying.
They need to do their jobs for the next 12-18 months
Keane should be manager and why utd never went for ward prowse , Macalister, doku, sobozslai ...it's looking like Ronaldo was right.
Gary neville was never this harsh on ole
if you aint his old mate you'll get shat on
Because he played with Ole
Little diva Ronaldo got Ole sacked
@@davidmcnaboe maguire and scott got ole sacked
@@davidmcnaboelosing 4 - 1 to watford got ole sacked
I am ashamed of this team
I did support utd not anymore
@@Michael-tb6ri I am so close to that
@@CoffeandReviews those players are not fit to wear that famous shirt if red an white and old Trafford is no longer a fortress.
@@Michael-tb6riListen boys, supporting United is much more than just watching the team on the pitch. The club’s history shows us that United may wane and peak but the red flag keeps flying high. We’ve been relegated before, we’ve had tragedies, but United always bounce back. I don’t know how long it’ll take, but we’ll be back don’t worry. Football works in peaks and troughs
@@maxkelly6664 that bullshit
Fair point Gary these are players years ago we thought weren’t good enough.
So it's Nothing to do with City being a FANTASTIC TEAM !!!!!!
It's gone well over your head.
Kloop turned Jordan Henderson into a winner a player no tip team would sign
Should Ten Hag be given more time. Yes. But really Jamie is right, who has he improved.
He improved Rashford and AWB last season. Wtf were you ?
@@folakemilaguda7828 what exactly about them? AWB has always been the best at 1v1s.
Rashford hit a purple patch and has since again dropped to his usual standards. Like what exactly has the improvement been.
It wasn't a lack of effort. They are just not very good. Half of those are just not up to it and haven't been for several years
Come on City
Gees this is like the same interview over the last number of years😂😂
It's not the Manager. The constants over the years have been woeful players. Mctominay rashford Bruno and Maguire. Until those 4 are shipped out nothing will change
You got Hojlund and Garnacho that are kids and yes still raw, but at least working their ass off for the club, don't talk about senior players, 24-27 year olds struggling to cope with the pressure of playing for Man United. Plus, lets stop pretending like its Man United of of the 90's and 00's, still a big club commercially, but the pressure to win isn't anywhere close to what it was, maybe thats down to unrealistic expectations from fans and the media.
Thank god he’s finally waking up to the bluffer Bruno is
We have been through this over and over again for the last 10 years. And the only conclusion I have come to is, "GLAZERS OUT!!!"
B-b..but i thought Marguire was the new and improved Paulo Maldini with a small DNA of Beckenbauer??
😂
Two good games and Man Utd fans think he's prime Maldini 😂
@AGuyWhoLikesFootball which man utd fans do you speak to or is the comparison just a figment of your billy no mate imagination?
Always Good To Hear Roy…👍🏾
Joel Glazers just has to score more goals
😂😂😂very nice to c Gary and Roy so frustrated 😅😅
“And De Gea” bet he’d like the opportunity say that again
Worst utd team in years, sacking ten hag isn't the answer, maybe they should have got postecoglu? Even the substitutions made absolutely no difference.
How is eth supposed to play his way with maguire, evans, lindelof, mctommy and erikson 😭 they need to sell the dead wood but they cant cause they gave long contracts with big wages 😂
Think Evans is there for not much of a wage given that he was supposed to be 5th or 6th choice (and I can't think of a better 5th choice CB in the Premier League) and certainly wasn't supposed to be playing games like this, more like the Burnley game where to be honest he was MOTM and assisted superbly for the Man U goal. It's just cruelty to put a 35-year old who was very decent in his day out there against the likes of Haaland and Bernardo.
Sell? The Glazers gave him Evans, Eriksen, Reguilon, Amrabat, Weghorst, Sabitzer on free transfer loans. You think the problem is that Utd need to sell the players they just recently took on as free transfers? LOL
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot bro what! I mentioned two people that were brought in loans and im not specifically talking about selling players the glazers have brought in. Im talking about getting rid player ETH doesnt want lol. Personally i couldnt care though cause i love that united are in the mud 😂
@@ImperiumOfLuther Why do you think that I'm your brother?
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot why do you have 1 to many chromosomes?
Bernardo Silva was running them off the park. He was running circles around them. He could have put on a man u shirt just for fun and scored an own goal and come back as a city player. He was playing them all 😊
It is easy to do that with unlimited oil backed funds.
Ten Hag is diabolical
Everyone at United is diabolical.
What else can he do with this shite bunch
Rashford’s level is THIS level… he had a spike in quality last season… that wasn’t his true level. McTominay is bang average. Johnny Evans? Really? Being a United fan is nauseating at this point.
Oh yes, here is Carragher, who said, not so long ago, that Cristiano is the main problem, and blamed it all on him. Then there is Gary, who never said anything specific about the Glazers failures, until it started to be fashionable for him. Gary always does this: changes his opinions depending how the wind blows. Both these 'experts' blamed Ronaldo for various things, yet here we are, with the same awful, toxic and boring United. And the results are, in fact, way worse than they were with Cristiano. Ten Hag broke all the awful, negative records at United. He is bland, terrible coach. Every single thing Ronaldo said about this club in the famous interview is spot on, and comes more true every day. If anything, the media, pundits and some ex-teammates of Cristiano should beg for his forgivness! It's disgraceful how he was treated after all he has done for this club, and during period of time when he was still mourning his son, and his daughter was sick in the hospital.
This is actually a better team than what was around Ronaldo. Ronaldo scoring 20 goals changed their position in the league completely.
Lindelof is one of the best defence players in United.
Bro if i told you two years ago evans would be playing at united along with maguie 😮 lindelof left back and mctominay in midfield in the starting 11 after 1 billion spent you have fainted
LOL
Gary’s right in my opinion, Man United are more popular brand than they are a football team. Every time them players get on the pitch they know if they put a foot wrong the whole internet is going to grill them; it definitely has a phycological knock on affect and you can see it from the performances.
The big problem is that they're still in denial about their status as a club. They're not who they were under Ferguson. As a Liverpool supporter, I think we're the only ones who can empathize with where Utd are now. We've been through it, from being on top to being also-rans. Its hard to take. We needed a generational manager like Klopp to pull us out of it, and we would have a lot more titles under our belt if it wasn't for the oil cheats. Utd will just have to deal with it until they can sort it out. What doesn't help is sitting around with the mentality of "We're Man Utd, how can we be this bad?". Accept where you are and work towards getting back to where you were. It could take almost thirty years.
Accept where drivelpool is dude nowhere. 1 prem title in 34 years. And you spout oil wells are drivelpools obstacle for not winning more titles lololololol. Here's a tissue cry cry and cry and wish hard for a oil well .
I think Brendan Rodgers pulled you out
@@marknewbold2583I respectfully disagree. You could make the same argument for Houllier or Benitez, but none of them achieved what Klopp has. For a time we were damn near unbeatable.
@@carlkermode899
I do not thing this has anything to do with Utd status. If it was not for oil money Utd would have won the title twice since Ferguson left. What klopp has done at Liverpool is nothing short of amazing. I do not think people fully understand how much damage has been done to football.
@@Art-is-craft I disagree. Also, saying that they would have won the league twice because they finished 2nd is is a bit of a stretch. Without oil money, lots of other results would have been different and going from 2nd to 1st would not be guaranteed. They're simply not the force they were under Ferguson. In living memory Utd have only been successful under two managers, Busby and Ferguson. Now they'll have to wait for the next one to come along.
As a Utd fan, I don’t know why everyone is complaining 😂. We are now a mid table club. After the Glazers decided not to sell I knew mediocrity would continue.