Thanks for the update. I recently bought a NIB Marklin 8910 Toporama and am in the process of finding and buying all the necessary track, buildings, and accessories. It is quite a treasure hunt. I am learning from your experiences.
@@zscalehobo - Yes - If I found Frank earlier I would have saved about $500 rather than buying each piece of track individually. Good luck with your layout!
@@SunkenMineRailroad No it did not and I have been looking for one too. I have asked the lady that I brought it from (it was part of her recently deceased husband's stash of Marklin) that if she finds any instruction sheets or manuals as she is going through his things if she would please let me know so we can work something out. I find it hard to believe that there was not one. I have searched high and low on the internet and several Marklin Forums to no avail.
@@DadCooks2 I think I figured it all out without it and the wallpaper paste was super flat when it dried and worked out well with the MDF board. The pins push in easily as well.
Its such an arkward scale to work with, I am struggeling to find track pins small enough to fit the track, I am building my friends old Marklin start set.
Take a look at my other video where I talk about laying track. If you are using Marklin track, use their pins. Buy more than you need, because you will bend some.
@@SunkenMineRailroad its a shame just how hard marklinZ track is to get on ebay...Marklin will not ship to the uk anymore so I may start using the more durable Rokuhan track.
Hi Barry, how are you doing ? My name is Jorge ! I have been following your segments as best I can considering, I’ve been ill lately but, what I’ve been trying to do is almost identical to what you’re doing with a few exceptions ! # 1. I’m working with the (“Atlantic coast line”), Southern Railway and which they do make in Z thank God but the major railroad I model is the (“Florida East Coast”) as well as Seaboard Air Line ! That’s a major problem because, they don’t make all those railroads except for a couple in Z gauge ! I mean if I could at least get my hands on Z scale decals I may be able to make my own locomotives and cabooses ! But when I remember listening to the amount of money you spend and on the amount Products that you’re getting, although you are doing a “custom job”, like me, and making your yard more American-ish, you are probably buying your stuff pretty new ! So I’ve been doing comparison shopping and was able to get a lot of really nice bunch of trains and accessory’s in Z scale for a very decent price ! I know some of the stuff that I have is not brand new and I do need to clean it (“ mostly track”), but I think it’s worth it considering I’ve worked with “N” Gauge for so long ! My only problem now however is I want to maintain one side American style but with the other side being industries but industries for both “European and American” style equipments ? Or let’s say I think towards the end it’s going to be all based on American houses, buildings, and whatever other things I can get on here because I think you also have an “oil tank reserve base” as well ? Anyway keep up the good work & keep me out of trouble ! 🌊🐺
Thankfully, I'm done buying stuff (for now) There are some good resources and people in facebook groups (Z Scale Model Railroading enthusiasts) and (Z Scale Model Trains) who love to give advice so there may be companies out there making the z-decals you are looking for. There are also lots of companies making American equipment now. I think if I wasn't trying to recreate a 'new' toporama then I would have been OK using older or used track. Eventually it all becomes old anyway! If I had to make something from scratch, I would model Concord New Hampshire which was a huge Boston & Maine terminal in the early 20th century. Get better soon.
What did you end up doing with the track that was corroded and how much was corroded ? What did it cost you to replace it ? Now you got me thinking ? 🌊🐺
Sunken Mine Railroad, I wanted to say thank you for giving me the numbers that I needed ! Now I know it’s safe to assume that I can use a (24“ x 48“) although I may sacrifice an “inch and 3/4” one-way, I’m gaining almost 6” more to widen the road ! With what I have in mind I would ‘like I told you earlier’ use “both American mostly but still be able to run German look” too but I get more than that making it feel weird or am I gonna just have to build another layout for them ???? 🌊🐺
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 Which ever direction you go in, plan first using a good layout program then purchase stuff. There are tons of american building kits out there so it shouldn't be too hard to do. I had to make a couple of changes which meant that some of the track I originally bought I can't use now and I had to buy additional track to cover the change. Good luck with your project!
Sunken Mine Railroad is 8”3/4’ The largest size Straight track they making or do they make longer streight track ? Oh and Do they sell them in (“10 packs or 12 packs”) ? And of course what’s the average price ? I’m thinking I’m going to need at least (one pack of the 8 inch and three-quarter) ??? Jorge
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 There are very long flex-track available from atlas and I thin Marklin. That's one of my first videos. Making your track brand selection is the first decision you need to make. Talk to Frank at Z-Scale Hobo. most track can be purchased in 10 packs.
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 The box says 125cm x 48cm, but I measure 19" x 49.125" mounted on half-inch MDF. If I had to do it again, I would have cut the board an inch bigger and trimmed it back to the edge. One of my earlier video's shows me applying the toporama.
Sunken Mine Railroad Thank you Berry ! At least now I know I can go 24’ x 48’ And I got to go to lumber store and get a piece of 1 inch thick or 2 inch thick if I can find it star foam board and maybe just maybe find me a thin piece of plywood to glue it on top of to make it a little more sturdy thing is the way I’ve got mine figured out there’s going to be like an ocean port for trains and ships ! And if I decide to create for example; a Bay Harbor area for industrial fishing I can do so and then I’ve got enough space to do a private beach on the other side ! But I really need some Florida East Coast Railway Z scale locomotives ! 🌊🐺
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 I really recommend MDF over plywood. The track pins push in firmly and you can pull them out. Foamboard is really better for making terrain. Since this layout is flat I don't have that complexity!
Sunken Mine Railroad; Correction on that I said earlier, I said it backwards ! I want to find a thin piece of plywood and then take a 2 inch piece of Styrofoam glued to the top of the wooden board the stuff you’re talking about they do not sell it in hardware stores here in Houston ! Another friend recommend a Homoshuit, it’s like a sheet of cork bed you place on top of the wood to deaden the sound ! Again I cannot get it here in Texas ! Now they sell what they call “pressboard” which is cheap and personally I don’t recommend using pressboard because of its instability and the fact that it absorbs water like a sponge ! Living down here in the south sometimes you get stuff that you’re allowed to get up north but, sometimes they don’t carry the same things you have up north that we have down here ! So that’s why I am going to go ahead and do the 2 feet wide by 4 feet long with Styrofoam on top I’ll be able to cut into it to make the Atlantic ocean ! Then I’ll be able to have a harbor on one side, and a beach on the other ! I’m attempting to implement a plan for a Lionel train Layout call (“bridges and beaches”), converted to Z scale ! I think I’ve got everything I need and then some more coming ! Let’s see what happens ? 🌊🐺
Speech is a little faint, even with my laptop sound flat out. At least your American is easy to understand....thank you! You can magnetize your pin pusher .......what material is your base made from?
For your next project, a scale model (Z-gauge might do) for the actual Sunken Mine RR including topography from Route 301 down to the Cold Spring foundry.
That's a great idea, except, from what I've read it was a gravity line with donkeys returning the ore carts back up hill (no locomotives.) I think I read somewhere that RTE 301 might have been a rail line at one point in history as well.
@@SunkenMineRailroad And it indeed it was a gravity line and yes, there were donkeys pulling the carts back up And yes(!) Route 301 was the path starting from where Dennytown Road meets it. Local lines from the mines all fed into a single track at that point. Wandering around the parts of Fhanestock no one goes to you can still see the graded lines following back to the mines. If you follow Sunken Mine road to the bottom, just east of Dennytown, just before you round the last curve to the lake, look toward your left and you'll see the grades coming in from Sunken Mine itself. Those, and others like it are all over the place. And though it would be a very cool thing to build, a recreation of the active mine railroads, I'm not sure where you can get 1:40 scale donkeys.
Love the washing machine going through it's cycles in the background... real cellar vibes!
Thanks for the update. I recently bought a NIB Marklin 8910 Toporama and am in the process of finding and buying all the necessary track, buildings, and accessories. It is quite a treasure hunt. I am learning from your experiences.
Track sets are the best value. Riley O'Connor explains the program here guidetozscale.com/html/settt.html
@@zscalehobo - Yes - If I found Frank earlier I would have saved about $500 rather than buying each piece of track individually. Good luck with your layout!
DadCooks - Did your 8910 come with any kind of instruction sheet or Manual? I'm looking for that. If so, Maybe you can scan it?
@@SunkenMineRailroad No it did not and I have been looking for one too. I have asked the lady that I brought it from (it was part of her recently deceased husband's stash of Marklin) that if she finds any instruction sheets or manuals as she is going through his things if she would please let me know so we can work something out. I find it hard to believe that there was not one. I have searched high and low on the internet and several Marklin Forums to no avail.
@@DadCooks2 I think I figured it all out without it and the wallpaper paste was super flat when it dried and worked out well with the MDF board. The pins push in easily as well.
0h yes what size board did you use
Hi Philip - The 8910 toporama measures 19" x 49"
Its such an arkward scale to work with, I am struggeling to find track pins small enough to fit the track, I am building my friends old Marklin start set.
Take a look at my other video where I talk about laying track. If you are using Marklin track, use their pins. Buy more than you need, because you will bend some.
@@SunkenMineRailroad its a shame just how hard marklinZ track is to get on ebay...Marklin will not ship to the uk anymore so
I may start using the more durable Rokuhan track.
What A.C. voltage are you using for the turnouts? Thanks
Hi Barry, how are you doing ? My name is Jorge ! I have been following your segments as best I can considering, I’ve been ill lately but, what I’ve been trying to do is almost identical to what you’re doing with a few exceptions ! # 1. I’m working with the (“Atlantic coast line”), Southern Railway and which they do make in Z thank God but the major railroad I model is the (“Florida East Coast”) as well as Seaboard Air Line ! That’s a major problem because, they don’t make all those railroads except for a couple in Z gauge ! I mean if I could at least get my hands on Z scale decals I may be able to make my own locomotives and cabooses ! But when I remember listening to the amount of money you spend and on the amount Products that you’re getting, although you are doing a “custom job”, like me, and making your yard more American-ish, you are probably buying your stuff pretty new ! So I’ve been doing comparison shopping and was able to get a lot of really nice bunch of trains and accessory’s in Z scale for a very decent price ! I know some of the stuff that I have is not brand new and I do need to clean it (“ mostly track”), but I think it’s worth it considering I’ve worked with “N” Gauge for so long ! My only problem now however is I want to maintain one side American style but with the other side being industries but industries for both “European and American” style equipments ? Or let’s say I think towards the end it’s going to be all based on American houses, buildings, and whatever other things I can get on here because I think you also have an “oil tank reserve base” as well ? Anyway keep up the good work & keep me out of trouble !
🌊🐺
Thankfully, I'm done buying stuff (for now) There are some good resources and people in facebook groups (Z Scale Model Railroading enthusiasts) and (Z Scale Model Trains) who love to give advice so there may be companies out there making the z-decals you are looking for. There are also lots of companies making American equipment now. I think if I wasn't trying to recreate a 'new' toporama then I would have been OK using older or used track. Eventually it all becomes old anyway! If I had to make something from scratch, I would model Concord New Hampshire which was a huge Boston & Maine terminal in the early 20th century. Get better soon.
What did you end up doing with the track that was corroded and how much was corroded ? What did it cost you to replace it ? Now you got me thinking ? 🌊🐺
It wasn't bad, it was just not as shiny as the new-in-box track. I still have it.
Sunken Mine Railroad, I wanted to say thank you for giving me the numbers that I needed ! Now I know it’s safe to assume that I can use a (24“ x 48“) although I may sacrifice an “inch and 3/4” one-way, I’m gaining almost 6” more to widen the road ! With what I have in mind I would ‘like I told you earlier’ use “both American mostly but still be able to run German look” too but I get more than that making it feel weird or am I gonna just have to build another layout for them ???? 🌊🐺
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 Which ever direction you go in, plan first using a good layout program then purchase stuff. There are tons of american building kits out there so it shouldn't be too hard to do. I had to make a couple of changes which meant that some of the track I originally bought I can't use now and I had to buy additional track to cover the change. Good luck with your project!
Sunken Mine Railroad is 8”3/4’ The largest size Straight track they making or do they make longer streight track ? Oh and Do they sell them in (“10 packs or 12 packs”) ? And of course what’s the average price ? I’m thinking I’m going to need at least (one pack of the 8 inch and three-quarter) ??? Jorge
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 There are very long flex-track available from atlas and I thin Marklin. That's one of my first videos. Making your track brand selection is the first decision you need to make. Talk to Frank at Z-Scale Hobo. most track can be purchased in 10 packs.
Hey Barry, would you be kind enough to tell me how long and how wide the layout is supposed to be ? 🌊🐺
Really need to know (“how long and how wide”) it’s really supposed to be and how thick is what you’re using to thicken it ?
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 The box says 125cm x 48cm, but I measure 19" x 49.125" mounted on half-inch MDF. If I had to do it again, I would have cut the board an inch bigger and trimmed it back to the edge. One of my earlier video's shows me applying the toporama.
Sunken Mine Railroad Thank you Berry !
At least now I know I can go 24’ x 48’
And I got to go to lumber store and get a piece of 1 inch thick or 2 inch thick if I can find it star foam board and maybe just maybe find me a thin piece of plywood to glue it on top of to make it a little more sturdy thing is the way I’ve got mine figured out there’s going to be like an ocean port for trains and ships ! And if I decide to create for example; a Bay Harbor area for industrial fishing I can do so and then I’ve got enough space to do a private beach on the other side ! But I really need some Florida East Coast Railway Z scale locomotives ! 🌊🐺
@@jorgel.fernandeziii8278 I really recommend MDF over plywood. The track pins push in firmly and you can pull them out. Foamboard is really better for making terrain. Since this layout is flat I don't have that complexity!
Sunken Mine Railroad; Correction on that I said earlier, I said it backwards ! I want to find a thin piece of plywood and then take a 2 inch piece of Styrofoam glued to the top of the wooden board the stuff you’re talking about they do not sell it in hardware stores here in Houston ! Another friend recommend a Homoshuit, it’s like a sheet of cork bed you place on top of the wood to deaden the sound ! Again I cannot get it here in Texas ! Now they sell what they call “pressboard” which is cheap and personally I don’t recommend using pressboard because of its instability and the fact that it absorbs water like a sponge ! Living down here in the south sometimes you get stuff that you’re allowed to get up north but, sometimes they don’t carry the same things you have up north that we have down here ! So that’s why I am going to go ahead and do the 2 feet wide by 4 feet long with Styrofoam on top I’ll be able to cut into it to make the Atlantic ocean ! Then I’ll be able to have a harbor on one side, and a beach on the other ! I’m attempting to implement a plan for a Lionel train Layout call (“bridges and beaches”), converted to Z scale ! I think I’ve got everything I need and then some more coming ! Let’s see what happens ?
🌊🐺
If you want to remove the pins, how do you do it? Removing them can be very tricky.
I actually just use the same pin pliers and gently pull them out.
good update!
8503 is 55mm ... 2 x 8504 is 50mm. So to make a 110mm track section from a Märklin 8587 55mm uncoupler you use 8503.
Yes, but I wanted to keep the uncouplers in the center where the originals were because there is a space that marklin provided.
Can you share the diagram of your layout
Just google Marklin 8910 toporama. The layout diagram is in every catalog between 1974 & 1979
Speech is a little faint, even with my laptop sound flat out. At least your American is easy to understand....thank you! You can magnetize your pin pusher .......what material is your base made from?
Sorry - I fixed the volume in later videos. I used 1/2" MDF.
For your next project, a scale model (Z-gauge might do) for the actual Sunken Mine RR including topography from Route 301 down to the Cold Spring foundry.
That's a great idea, except, from what I've read it was a gravity line with donkeys returning the ore carts back up hill (no locomotives.) I think I read somewhere that RTE 301 might have been a rail line at one point in history as well.
@@SunkenMineRailroad And it indeed it was a gravity line and yes, there were donkeys pulling the carts back up And yes(!) Route 301 was the path starting from where Dennytown Road meets it. Local lines from the mines all fed into a single track at that point.
Wandering around the parts of Fhanestock no one goes to you can still see the graded lines following back to the mines. If you follow Sunken Mine road to the bottom, just east of Dennytown, just before you round the last curve to the lake, look toward your left and you'll see the grades coming in from Sunken Mine itself. Those, and others like it are all over the place.
And though it would be a very cool thing to build, a recreation of the active mine railroads, I'm not sure where you can get 1:40 scale donkeys.