So Easy, So Compact! // Kokoni EC1 3D Printer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- Make as many model detail parts or complete small models as you want with the Kokoni EC1 3D Printer. This incredibly compact and easy-to-use 3D printer comes fully assembled, requires no bed leveling, and is so compact it will fit almost anywhere. I’ve been making dozens of model detail parts for my model train projects with this printer, and even a complete 50’ N Scale boxcar. You don’t need a computer as you control everything from your phone. This is a great printer if you need to make small model parts and can also be a great printer for kids to use as it uses non-toxic PLA filament and is easy to control via an app on your phone or tablet. Small resin printers will do better with fine details on very small figures and vehicles than this filament printer and obviously this printer can’t print large items. But, it works great for most of things I need to printer for my model train projects.
Buy Kokoni EC1 3D Printer: gozbx.com/r/RQM0akb30hoS
Use this code to receive $30 off: GBoff30
Some of the models I showed:
Dumpster: www.thingiverse.com/thing:536...
Shipping Container: www.thingiverse.com/thing:583...
Large rooftop HVAC: www.thingiverse.com/thing:474...
Assorted AC Units: www.thingiverse.com/thing:262...
Ducts: www.thingiverse.com/thing:262...
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Living under a rock as I do, I didn't know this kind of printer even existed! (I thought they were all resin, which did not appeal to me.) Thanks Steve! Now to convince my wife...
Resin printers make higher quality prints, but aren't as good for inside the house given that you have to deal with liquid resin. Much better for the garage.
As someone doing most of my modeling (and imagineering) in larger scales such as O scale and 1/24 running on G gauge track, these newest developments in 3D printers are exciting (even though this particular printer seems better for the small scale stuff…)
Hi Steve, new subscriber here. Love your videos, thank you! On this printer, it appears they had a good price increase in the 5 months since you made this. I have been interested in 3D printing for a few years since my nephew made me some switch holders for my RV lights when I found a design online and sent it to him. Working on a new N scale layout I can see plenty of use for one! Just paid nearly $20 for 2 “Pods” shipping containers for a flatbed car and could easily have printed them for less!. But in your video you mentioned the “Ender 3” so I searched that on Amazon and found it as cheap as $168 where the Kokoni you mentioned has gone up to $289 as of 2/10/24. They still seem to honor the discount, but I have to wonder if the Ender 3 isn’t a better deal. Even if I added the $49 enclosure for the Ender it’s still cheaper than the Kokoni with the discount. Also, do you need special software to run these? I have a macbook/ipad/iphone and wonder if software is available for any/all of them? Thanks again for your hard work and informative videos!
The Ender 3 is more flexible overall in that it has a much bigger printer bed and can print more materials, but it isn’t as user friendly since you have to level the bed and configure bed and printer head temperatures yourself. You can use free software for the printer and some free software is available for designing.
it's cute!
Hi Steve! Great minds think alike. 😁 I also have an Ender 3 and cover the build plate with blue painters tape as well. I've used it to build some N scale boxcars, flat cars, hopper cars, and gondolas but making covered hoppers with all that end ladder detail is a pain. I had to do those in pieces with the ends being printed by themselves and then glued on. I hadn't thought about rooftop details. Now those are on my list. Great hobby within a hobby!
Yes it is!
Watch out Steve, they are talking about removing your monument next
If space is at a super premium I could see the utility of this. However there are small resin printers that are the same cost or cheaper that would offer better quality. The only downside is having a slightly larger footprint. the Geeetech Alkaid is only $99. You can get the entire printer and wash and cure station for about the same cost as this PLA printer. But again at the cost of some space.
Yeah, the resin printer is going to do better but I think there is a place for both since a lot of things will print fine with this one and it is less hassle. Not that most people should have three 3D printers, but if you can get them as gifts or whatever I would get both if it was an option.
Nice recommendation and quite affordable. The only bummer is that they don't ship to Malaysia 😅
Great video! Only question is that I’m trying to use micro train trucks. Do you know any that would work well for the box car and others like hoppers?
I don’t really know yet since I haven’t actually bought any to do that. I just stole these off a broken box car. They do have lots of different types with different length coupler boxes and such so lots of options to choose from. May be a bit of a trial and error thing though.
@@StevesTrains Thanks for the response! That’s what I was going to do. I’ll comment and tell you how it works out.
Hi Steve,
Would it be possible to see a few detail shots of the items you printed in N-scale? I'm having some troubles wrapping my head around the fact, that you can actually print things this small with filament printers. My brain needs to be persuaded :)
I’ll try to either do a follow up or post more images on my blog site. Jimmy from the DIY & Digital is going to have a review out soon too on his channel and may have some better images.
@@StevesTrainsExcellent. Thanks :)
3D printing offers a lot of flexibility in creating lots of object but filament printers have yet to find a way to print without a thousand lines that require lots of tedious sanding and filling. Yes, resin printers are messy, require curing cabinets and lots of alcohol but the quality of the finished items is infinitely better.
This is true overall, but depends on what you print. I really didn't have to do much if any sanding on most of these prints because most of them didn't need any external supports which helps a lot. Also, you can smooth them if you brush on a coat of one of something like Bondene or one of those types of adhesives if you need to help to smooth out the joints where the supports connected.
Hey Steve, great video. I have a question, or two. I’m doing n scale and the one thing I get aggregated with is the figures. You either pay $15 for a pack of 5 quality figures or $6 for 100 poor quality figures. And the choices are very limited compared to other scales. I moved to the Philippines about two years ago. That makes my costs much higher because of over seas shipping. So I’ve started looking into 3d printers. Seems resign makes a cleaner finish but those are too much trouble. Finally,my question. Can you filament printer produce a quality n scale figure? If so, where is a good place to find stl files of figures. Last question, can an O scale or HO scale file be down sized to N scale , keeping with figures. Thanks for all your videos and info.
No, N scale figures are too small for a filament printer. I mean it will print them but they won’t look very good. Resin printers can do a good job with them but as you said more hassle. That being said I haven’t tried to print n scale figure. But 28mm D&D figures don’t come out great either but then they are usually really complex. You can still see the detail but it is a lot of trouble with the supports and such and getting a smooth finish. 35 mm and bigger work ok. But train figures would be simple and not carrying weapons and have tails and stuff so I guess I should try them. Could probably print standing figures laying down and not have supports at all which would help a ton. Ok, I’ll try it sometime in the coming days. Lol
Hi Steve, before I buy, I was thinking about 3d printing an N scale steam tender shell. Will it reproduce the tender rivet detail? I don't have a shell to scan, but will scale drawings work?
Thanks for your help.
A resin printer will do a better job overall if you want very small detail like that. This one will show it, but a resin printer will look better, assuming it is a higher resolution one.
@@StevesTrains sorry for being a pest, but do the site that sells this little printer sell the resin printers? Thanks
@@jamesdenny4734I would go with one of the Elgoo Mars printers like this: amzn.to/3Sd73an if you are wanting a small and low cost resin printers. Those have a ton or reviews and have been around a long time, so you can have pretty good confidence in what you are getting. I haven’t tried any other printers from this particular vendor that makes the small filament printer so I don’t know anything about how they perform.
Hi Steve, i just got myself an EC1. It looks super easy to use, but im having connectivity issues. I found in the instructions that its not 5G compatible, and my phone doesn't hotspot. Did you have
any of these issues and how did you install it?
I connected to the printer by Bluetooth, then once I did that I connected the printer to my home wifi network. Then my phone app will see the printer online and allow me to print to it. There have been a couple of times when it would show up as offline and I had to reboot the printer, which solved that issue.
The Beep and the cartridge system are a big negative for me. While the beep can probably be patched, the cartridge system has "Future HP printer" written all over it. I also heavily doubt you can refill them, why else would you have to scan the QR code if not to make sure you do not reuse old cartridges?
You scan it every time you change them and you don’t have to scan the one that is on the printer. I have gone back and forth between three colors so you can do it multiple times at least. But, will see what happens once I run out. I have loads of PLA so I’ll try refilling one once one of them runs out.
Steve, were did you get the 3D files for your models?
All of them came from Thingiverse. I’ll try to find the links again and post them in the description today. I meant to do that before now but didn’t get time to do so. I didn’t think of saving the links when i grabbed the files.
@@StevesTrains, Thanks I'm thinking of giving this 3D a try for my N & Z trains stuff, seem easy enough..
Steve been watching your channel for years, do you every print small detail items to sell or donate?
Not yet but maybe one day. I can barely keep up with my current video schedule since I only have a handful of hours per week to devote to this stuff.
The website is a bit disappointing, I don't see any information on replacement filament. What comes with the printer?
Filament link: www.kokoni3d.com/products/pla-filament-for-ec1?pr_prod_strat=pinned&pr_rec_id=d2cfa4eab&pr_rec_pid=7941590614254&pr_ref_pid=7943377780974&pr_seq=uniform
Filament link: www.kokoni3d.com/products/pla-filament-for-ec1?pr_prod_strat=pinned&pr_rec_id=d2cfa4eab&pr_rec_pid=7941590614254&pr_ref_pid=7943377780974&pr_seq=uniform
Oh, OK, that's a different site than the one you had linked for the printer (and it's a lot cheaper at your link). Thanks!
iam asking myself if i need a 3D printer. iam also a N scaler. do you have any experience with resin 3D Printers? if so what printer would you recommend?
Check out Jimmy at the DIY and Digital. He has a lot of videos on 3D printing like this one with recommendations: th-cam.com/video/P-vwGE2sxPI/w-d-xo.html
I had planned to buy a small resin printer for making these detail parts, but decided to try this one first so I didn't have to worry about the resin mess and could keep it inside the house. Resin printers will certainly give you more fine detail overall than these kind can, but it depends how much you need. For a lot of these types of detail parts you don't need that level of detail, but it varies in what you want to do. If you want to make small figures, a resin printer is a must.
Not sure I like that it will need its own filament rather than using rolls you can buy off Amazon & elsewhere. As to making cars, I've designed my own for Z scale. I've started offering them at Cults 3D. I'm going to do the same for N; probably older 40' cars since those aren't as available from manufacturers as they used to be.
That part is frustrating. I believe the idea is to keep the filament drier so it will print more consistently. I have lots of rolls of PLA for my Ender 3. I plan to try wrapping a spool in these cartridges once one or them runs out and try using it that way. Not ideal, but will see if that at least works ok.
You never addressed print quality or really close-up shots of a print. The couple of close-ups looked questionable.
Quality and resolution are key for small scales like N scale so I agree not covering that was a big oversight.
It isn’t going to match a resin printer of course in quality, but I think it does the same to a little better than my Ender 3 printer.
Buy Kokoni EC1 3D Printer: gozbx.com/r/RQM0akb30hoS
Use this code to receive $30 off: GBoff30
Some of the models I showed:
Dumpster: www.thingiverse.com/thing:5361283
Shipping Container: www.thingiverse.com/thing:5833705
Large rooftop HVAC: www.thingiverse.com/thing:4747070
Assorted AC Units: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2626207
Ducts: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2626207
Thanks. This was very hlepful and I am seriously considering it. If you are going to paint the object anyway, does it matter what color PLA-filament you print it with?
I don’t even own a computer, if I need to make something, God gave me brain and two hands.
God bless you, my son. May God bless your hands! 🙌 👀
I prefer to hand make most things, but I can't stand making these little details. Assembling N scale HVAC units drives me batty. Not so much an issue in larger scales, but so much easier to print little things like this, especially when time is very limited.
Have you been paid for this video
No, I asked them if they would consider sending me a copy to review on my channel since I was interested in it, and they did.
Hi Steve.
Great video. I have one of these printers and use my iPad with the Kokoni app. Only problem is the uploading of files to the printer from other sites. It just doesn’t accept them. Which file sharing app do you recommend.
I’ve only uploaded files (from thingiverse or elsewhere) to the kokoni cloud site so I could then select them with the app and print them that way. I don’t know of any way to avoid doing that.