Cloud is so obviously good and cloud mains try to downplay so they can say they play a mid tier 💀 their character is brain dead easy and extremely good
yeh thats the weirdest design decision in perhaps the entire game together with ridley. Those two being heavies or heavier would not make them broken. Sephiroth a bit heavier than cloud and lets be honest ridley should be the new heaviest char in the game.
@@aidenthornell7004 yo smash character weights are funny as hell. Sephiroth weighs as much as Pikachu for “balancing purposes”, yet they made Pyra and Mythra midweights.
Sephs up smash has a chance to miss small characters , side tilt doesn't do enough damage , down smash would've been to slow ,forward smash would've been to slow. Side b is side b. Neutral b is off the table. Up tilt won't work and down tilt won't work. Up b charged wouldn't break shield unless the opponent was on ledge and all hits connected to shield . Up b no charge won't do enough damage.
Sephiroth secondary main here! 2 weeks ago I’ve decided to drop him myself, Seph is too light, has wayy too much end lag on moves and sour spots can’t even kill at 150%, he is far from DLC material, and I’ve come to realization so now I’m replacing him with Joker
Said from the beginning seph isn't as good as everyone thought he was. He's got so much lag in his attacks, he's so dang slow until he gets his wing, which btw puts him at an easy kill percent, he's so dang precise save for his upair and up smash and in addition to being tall and having a crap neutral game his cons outway his pros. You have to put so much work into the character and it's ultimately frustrating like this moment here. I can see tweek eventually dropping him, not many use him to begin with
On one of the smallest characters too. Also ivysaur killed him with a simple confirm, nothing to do with sephiroth as that confirm would have landed on 90% of the cast
It's just an unfortunate cherry on top of everything Sephiroth struggles to do. Characters like Pyra can use Fsmash with the power of gigaflare but with less endlag and much less startup. Seph already has to be precise enough as it is, so a charged gigaflare being unable to hit small characters just makes him that much worse to use.
The longer the clip went on, I could feel an indescribable rage building
RAHHHHHHHHH
“I just can’t do it no more” felt bro
In other words: MIIIIIID
Nah man he's low tier at best
Cash grab
The fact he switches to pyra and mythra after is great!
"You can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half."
*sniff sniff* y’all smell that? *snifff* MIDDD
Not even lmao
This is the real MID tier character. Cloud is top tier btw can’t change my opinion.
Ratio
Cloud is so obviously good and cloud mains try to downplay so they can say they play a mid tier 💀 their character is brain dead easy and extremely good
Your right, he is the top tier of Mid. Still over Sephiroth
@@ashlyn40-b5q L
This'll change your mind: Lil Mac has a better recovery compared to Cloud.
Just 1 of those days
Remember when people were saying he's top-tier, and one of the best characters in the game? 🤣
There's still people in his charactercord that thinks he's top 5 and is +1 against Aegis
@@darthdistortion1934 are those people inmates at Arkham?
@@aquatazer I'll have you know I think he's top 5 and my doctor said I am only slightly insane.
They still say that
one streamers opinion does not make it fact
If Nairo were still competing, he would definitely have at least a Pyra/Mythra secondary at this point
This why Tweek is my favorite pro right now, dude is carrying Sephi hard and I respect him for that
Ken too
@@timjim7163 ken always be losing
@@MasteryAdvocates yo momma be loosing
Switching to Pyra/Mythra was the right choice.
Bro progressively got angrier
man I know the feeling, whiffed falcon punch that one time and I reset my save file and didn't unlock him specifically, fuck that character
LOL
I felt the same months ago. They did sephiroth so bad.
My realization just hit 2 weeks ago. He’s just not good enough
Reject seph embrace the agies
I really raged so bad today too. It’s been a while since I gotten so mad, I almost destroyed my controller and other things.
All good, man. As long as it's not common.
@@mycoinsyourpurse2244 Thanks bro. Yeah it’s not common, which is good.
He got so salty he went to easy mode pythra afterwards.
Sephiroth becomes a memory:
That comeback was really good tho
I felt that rage
One move angled down f tilt
Small characters usually make me want to die as well
It makes no sense that Steve is heavier than seph
yeh thats the weirdest design decision in perhaps the entire game together with ridley. Those two being heavies or heavier would not make them broken. Sephiroth a bit heavier than cloud and lets be honest ridley should be the new heaviest char in the game.
@@DGSnowolf Bowser still deserves that spot, but easily should have been 2nd or 3rd over Krool and DedeDe
You talking about a game where joker gun should just kill everything in one shot
@@keeg_h556 Ridley is quite taller than bowser but bowsers also bulky so yeh bowser being heavier I can see.
@@A_Shut-in_NEET no? it doesnt even in his game.
*picks Aegis
Lmaooooooooo💀
all you needed to do was dash attack and his shield would have broken
Straight to Pyra
Small characters genuinely make this game unfun.
It's like trying to stick a thumbtack on a fly.
you still dont see a whole bunch tbh, not many people enjoy getting killed off a bair at 70% mid stage
Now imagine the weight of a small character on a 2m tall dude, that'd be hilarious I'm sure
@@aidenthornell7004 yo smash character weights are funny as hell. Sephiroth weighs as much as Pikachu for “balancing purposes”, yet they made Pyra and Mythra midweights.
How I feel every time I play smash online
Y’all ever die from someone popping out of the game winning octoslash? I get so LIVID
You’d think with the hit box being as big as it is that it wouldn’t happen so often but you’d be wrong
I felt like he could've grabbed Squirtle after gigaflare
Couldn't he just do any move to break his shield?
He’s so bad 😂
Sephs up smash has a chance to miss small characters , side tilt doesn't do enough damage , down smash would've been to slow ,forward smash would've been to slow. Side b is side b. Neutral b is off the table. Up tilt won't work and down tilt won't work. Up b charged wouldn't break shield unless the opponent was on ledge and all hits connected to shield . Up b no charge won't do enough damage.
@@menikill783only good thing about the character are his range, his tilt and his recovery, apart from that, he is ass
That's how I feel about corrins moves seemingly clanking or trading with everything
Did he finally drop other mid
this is how I feel playing shulk sometimes
no way you choose to conplain about shulk when you can glow yellow and get out of my funny confirms
@SweetzTheOne press B to skip this cutscene is nice but his frame data is worse than seph's so I'm gonna bitch about it
Bro died at 86 💀
seph making mii sword look more viable
I loose a set today because octoslash doesn’t finish to Connect the last hitbox❤
Sounds like me playing K Rool
Sephiroth secondary main here! 2 weeks ago I’ve decided to drop him myself, Seph is too light, has wayy too much end lag on moves and sour spots can’t even kill at 150%, he is far from DLC material, and I’ve come to realization so now I’m replacing him with Joker
Doesn't have endlag just space
Said from the beginning seph isn't as good as everyone thought he was. He's got so much lag in his attacks, he's so dang slow until he gets his wing, which btw puts him at an easy kill percent, he's so dang precise save for his upair and up smash and in addition to being tall and having a crap neutral game his cons outway his pros. You have to put so much work into the character and it's ultimately frustrating like this moment here. I can see tweek eventually dropping him, not many use him to begin with
Bro he is as light as pikachu and kirby but double the height
@@1spyrocrash1 more than double 😅
thank god hes ass. We already have min min, why another degen char?
This is why I absolutely DESPISE small characters
sephiroth isn’t ass, squirtle is because this game is literally an ouroboros of a glue sticked to duct tape when it comes to the z axis
Outplayed
Mii swordy is actually pretty strong, I'm excited to see what setup you use but I can guess
rest in peace nairo-san
Why is he so mad? He had a free punish and missed it, and gigaflare deserves to be a tiny hitbox for the early detonation for how strong it is
On one of the smallest characters too. Also ivysaur killed him with a simple confirm, nothing to do with sephiroth as that confirm would have landed on 90% of the cast
Yeah he's bugging lol
he mad cuz bad
It's just an unfortunate cherry on top of everything Sephiroth struggles to do. Characters like Pyra can use Fsmash with the power of gigaflare but with less endlag and much less startup. Seph already has to be precise enough as it is, so a charged gigaflare being unable to hit small characters just makes him that much worse to use.
Reasons sephiroth can be considered good
Why i sometimes hate being a sephiroth main 🥲
I love fighting Pikachu and mario . That feeling of getting touched one tike and dying and having to play like a bitch the entire match is amazing
MMIIIIIIID
I love using seph but it would be everything if he just wasn’t the same weight as PIKACHU!!!!
Nairo Washed
Lol get wrecked bro
this is why small characters are so annoying
I hate PT so much. Why does Squirtle feel shorter than Pikachu?
Sephiroth MID
this character is actually bottom 20
Shō
The Life of a Mid Tier sucks 😔
I don't get it.
Should have canceled into downsmash
I also hate Squirtle
squirtle issue
"The little things"
Funny enough I think the back throw killed him, upthrow was better.
Seph mid
Seph and cloud are busted
one of these is not like the other
Skill issue
Sephiroth is a slightly better Cloud right?
Cloud is better than sephiroth lmao
Cloud is better in every way except for recovery. And even then, he has limit to sometimes negate that issue