Surprise! SPD adapters on road shoes are NOT awesome...
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- Squeezing in some more panic buying content as yet again picked up a pair of new cycling shoes, cleat adapters, and even new pedals... Let's if I can justify all that...
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I could watch you weighting bike stuff and putting up numbers all day.
Thank you for being so honest, humble and funny. I would watch a video of just your facial expressions any day!
Happy I can bring a grain of entertainment at least 🥴🙏
Those Pearl Izumi shoes are so gorgeous!!! And to think that the conventional Dura Ace road pedal setup were that much lighter than the Speedplay setup, that's actually a surprise!!!
I used those adapters to convert a pair of SPD-SL road shoes to gravel shoes by sanding the platforms down to match the curvature of the sole and installed the included cleat nuts inside the shoe.
You know what you’ve helped me come to terms with ? That’s it’s ok that your seat post, stem, and handle bars can all be different brands so long as you save weight doing it.
I'm not brand loyal in that way... I rather make my bike unique, and save weight in the process.
I just love the bike nerdiness of this vid. 🔝
Not only interesting and helpful, but also entertaining and ALWAYS a brilliant intro and a glimpse into the world of colour coordination!!!!😂👍🏻
Love anything you put out, but today's bloopers actually made me cry! Keep it coming
Great info on the weight comparison between different types of pedal packages!
Man I freaking love your videos! Funny, interesting, and so much bike nerdery!
System weights were great info. I’ve been toying with ditching my finicky speedplays for Ultegra.
I was going to get these converter plates for my Sidi Shot. Don't think I'll bother, think I'll stick to SPD SL for my gravel/road bike...
Please please please can we have a video of outtakes?!
Always put a smile on my face.
Thanks for your content, stay safe & keep riding.
Happy to hear that, cheers!
you too mate!
I love the bloopers at the end. Just shows how much work you put into these fabulously entertaining but informative videos. Keep up the great work 👍
Cheers mate 🙏
They're pretty nice looking shoes. They look like great summer shoes with all the ventilation. I recently bought the S-Works 7 shoes from Specialized's Down Under collection (like you, without trying on), and they're sweet looking and comfortable, but I can see my feet getting hot in the summer.
Your content is a really refreshing take on life and cycling. Keep it going mate. Best cycling TH-cam channel going about. Love how you don’t take yourself too seriously and camera work is sublime.
Appreciate the kind words mate, cheers!🙏
We all need to make fun of ourselves from time to time 😁
I was recently "persuaded" to change my road bike from spd to Look pedals: hate it! But along with the Look pedals & cleats I bought a beautiful pair of much-too-expensive leather Lake carbon soled road shoes (you sound like a man who would understand). Can't justify not using them, at least for a season or two, so thinking of trying these spd adapters. Your video has helped me realise that I am even more confused than I thought I was :) Love the T-shirt!
You can get the shoes drilled to get to fit the spd paddle. Alex dowsett had done this to fit his speedplay paddels. He has a video about this on his TH-cam channel.
Pieter Ullersma that’s true you could, but you need to have the tread on the side to rest agains the pedal on a spd system, so it wouldn’t work very well with just a cleat.
@@ridesofjapan I ride Speedplay SYZR, and what I get from the manufacturer is that due to the different locking mechanism I would not depend on the tread to ride, only to let the cleats live longer when I walk on hard ground. Lots of adjustable float to safe my knee joints.
I haven't watched Alex Dowsett's video yet, but I assume he was talking about out the 4 bolt pattern for the Speedplay road pedals ( think he mentioned it on gcn). I could imagine that having drilled an SPD slot in afterwards could be quite a tricky thing to do do while trying to keep the contact point structurally stable.
@@ridesofjapan I have a cheap-ish road bike shoe with both 3 bolt and 2 bolt spd pattern and I use spd cleats for road-ish rides on my gravel bike. First few times, it wasn't completely natural to clip in without tread around it, but now it feels normal-ish.
Road Bike kit, 32mm road tyres and gravel tracks on the way the way to/from the group road ride is awesome in all ways....
Not for you RoJ, 'cause it sometimes causes a dirty chain when I get to the start of the group ride. #chainOCD
Maybe you could do a video showing your bike/kit in it's different variations (road, gravel, bike packing etc) or maybe a video on each setup with a deep dive into what you change, weight etc
That is a very good idea 👍 I’ve currently working on my all-road setup once that’s done it could be an interesting concept, cheers!
Sign up for patreon so we can help you fund your continued descent into cycling kit madness. Joking aside, I really appreciate the esoteric gear you showcase and your thoughts are always on-point. I'd support you in a heartbeat.
I appreciate the support mate!
I don’t do this for a living so no patreon needed, all you guys watching my madness is more than I can ask for 🙏
Xpedo have XPR 3-to-2 adapters, made from brass, for their system. Work with the normal MTB cleat system as well. 135g for the pair with bolts.
Any good? How far back can you place the cleats?
@@peterblake3062 Depends on your shoes. Generally the adapter will eat about 3mm setback.
Great fun to watch as always! Nice sense of humour, bike nerdism and weight weenirism, plus some advice about your hard learnt lessons, what's not to like?
cheers mate! 🙌
The word you're looking for (instead of "wrist") is "ankle" I think? Love the channel.
I'm still using my 3-year-old (and ugly) Scott MTB shoes on my road bike with Crankbrothers Candy pedals. I bought a pair of Fizik X1 Infinitos last summer, looking slick, but I still have to adjust the cleats, it's been almost A YEAR now. I failed to exactly replicate the position as I didn't have a turbo back then, so it was extremely time consuming. Then winter (erm, rain?) happened and I returned to using Scotts. I was hoping to achieve that during the lockdown (I'm in the UK) but I still couldn't get around to it...
seriously, I could listen you to you talk about any topic. I really enjoy your self effacing demeanor along with the tenacity to drill down on your chosen topic. What might be another topic you're passionate about be? Thx.
Cheers mate, happy you can handle my rambling, weird pronunciations, grammatical errors etc without smacking the screen 😂
Another topic apart from cycling? Noting... without cycling I’m an empty shell ;)
@@ridesofjapan Dear Empty Shell without Cycling, Thank god they invented the wheel.
Another great video😁. Btw your advice IS sound: fixed a creaky Cannondale on the fly today as I remembered your video about greasing/tightening the thru axle as it was driving me insane...being a cannondale owner I was already dreading stripping the bottom bracket for a regrease 😅.
Awesome, glad you found that useful!
Never mind buying without trying them on, you bought without weighing a pair in a shop first! You took the manufacturer's word for it, foolish boy!
Peter Shaw I’ve still have a lot to learn 😔
@@ridesofjapan S'okay, we'll pretend it never happened. Good thing there's no video evidence.
Your channel is fantastic!!! I love how your home studio looks. And now I want to get into bike packing so thanks for that. $$$
Bloopers are hilarious 🤣
Damn tongue twisters 🤪
I quickly rejected the idea when I put the pontoon adaptor and cleat on. Way too much stack height. I just use the road pedals. I have shimano rp3 with a 2 and 3 bolt sockets in the shoe, so the adaptor was different that the one you needed.
Great video man! I've been contemplating buying road shoes and putting those adapters on for a looong time as there arent many good looking mtb shoes so video has been helpful
Happy that I'm no alone in this ;)
Timing! I was googling them yesterday as I had a similar idea. Thanks for saving me the pain. Best buy some new shoes instead!
As a fellow pedal - shoe freak and WW I use ritchey comp micro road pedals. Very good and worth trying 👍🏻 210 grams plus the cleats which are similar to the shimano mtb cleat.
Also check out the wellgo RC8 adapters.
Love the outtakes... and (obviously) your high-quality OCD cycling nerd videos in general.
Just ordered a new pair of cycling shoes from a brand I've never used before (Mavic) and haven't tried them on... Oh boy...
Wish me luck! :)
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As long as you can return them it seems fine, its expected right now, since you cannot try them out in person . I tried 3 different brands (shimano, northwave, decathlon) with different sizes in fall, and either my toes were slightly touching to front or i was swimming around. Now i ordered mavics and hope for dear lord they fit. My feet are kinda weird in form with a wide big toe but really long middle toes. Either the shoes have been to low in height or to narrow on the outer front.
Little update: Shoes arrived yesterday. They seemed a bit big at the first look. But compared to my actual Sidi shoes they are just a little bigger. Did a Zwift ride this morning. Felt good on foot after a couple of minutes. I'll keep them :)
With the speedplay's, lose the walkable cleat covers, get 4 hole shoes (even lower stack height) and you can lose the 3 to 4 hole adapterplate. Then weigh again ;).
Not a single 4-hole shoe out there that fit my taste though 😜
The Pearl Izumi shoes are a work of art, absolutely stunning!
Sorry you didn’t like the adapters though, personally I’ve used them & not had any problems, probably depends on what you are used to in the past though! Stay safe, love your vids.
Cheers mate!
Yeah, I think you are right it’s all about what you are used to in the end... happy they work for you! No durability issues?
Rides of Japan no durability issues, but I probably don’t ride anywhere near as often as you do to be honest!
with this type of installation you don’t lose stiffness when pulling your leg ?
Another inspiring and superbly photographed video.
Don’t listen to the trolls. Just delete the negative comments.
All my bikes have xtr pedals when you are 20kg over weight a few grams extra on the pedals isn’t gonna hurt.
After decades of poorly fitting shoes I’ve found northwave rebel mtb shoe bloody fantastic, the carbon soul is stiff and toe box is wide enough for my wide feet. I’ve not put them on the scales but who cares when your feet no longer hurt.
Cheers mate! Much appreciated!
Not getting much hate (yet) I’m pretty think skinned either way though.
You’re doing it correct... worrying about weight is not anything I wish on anyone, I use this as an outlet for my insanity hehe.
Entertaining as always. Every time I see your video pop up I grab a coffee before watching. I like to call it "having a coffee with Tobias". Thank you my friend.
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Imo the SPD shoes can vary how they interface with SPD pedals and feel not as planted. I bought S-Works Recon last year and they feel same as my Sub6 with road pedals. Really tight, no rocking, just some float. Sole sits much closer to pedal body than Giro Empire VR90 on XTR pedals.
Hey I just bought a pair of those Pearl Izumi's too! Love em!
It's not the fault of the adaptors that the cleats cannot go back far enough, these adaptors are designed for Shimano shoes and some brands place the holes further forward than Shimano. I could be wrong but it seems like most brands also position road cleats further forward to their mtb shoes.
I saw those at there store I love the look of the carbon on the soles. It has a similar design of some Nike football boots
Hey man! Another good video👍Not sure I like those new shoes. They look like lobsters😀
You ever consider painting more of your shoes? I jazzed up a pair of 2004 Nike Poggio UL's thanks to your shoe painting video👍I couldn't bear to part with them as they are like wearing slippers and after 16 years have held up exceedingly well.
Haha! We all have our preferences 😬
No shoe paining plans no... don’t really have any good candidates for that now. The giros are made to paint almost.
Cheers!
Maybe u'll like Shimano PD-ES600, with roadesque look (wide single-sided surface) but using spd cleat.
And listed at 279 g for a pair!
0:15 lol at your Boa adjustment expression
Never mind the shoes, digging the Ridge Supply socks!
Original Arsenal here ✊
I believe we have passed each other a few times on the Arakawa, and I might be interested in the Xpedo M-Force 8 Ti pedals if you don't want them.
Must have been a while ago then as I moved up to Saitama a few years ago ;)
If you’re interested in the pedals shoot me a DM on Instagram if you can 👍
Have you looked at the Shimano XC 701 ? They are advertised as XC MTB shoes, but are identical to the RC7s (minus the cleats and tread of course).
Great video, it’s nice to understand the differences between the various pedal options. 🤓 See you on Watopia!
Bike nerdery is always appreciated but most of all, great video production value. TH-camrs far and wide can learn a thing or two from you my friend. Sure wish I could spend more on bike shoes. I love love love bike shoes. Peace!
Thanks for the work you put into your channel, always entertaining
Brilliant and love the bloopers in the end! 😆
You should try Time Xpresso/X-Pro pedals, they are quite nice and even the cheapest is close to Dura Ace in weight, while the most expensive is lighter. (In system weight too). They also have a low stack height and a different (but in my opinion really nice and knee friendly) float
No more pedals! 😅
Spd adapters are not something that interests me, but i watched the video anyway. Theres always some good information in your videos. Such as dura ace been lighter than speedplay. Now i know i will stick with shimano.thanks.
Happy you still found something useful in there!
I enjoy your work. Keep the videos coming.
Had to laugh when the dura-ace box came into frame. Just buying the top of the line pedals as a panic buy hahaha. You never know...
The only way to panic buy ;)
Crank Bros have good road shoe adapters, but for Crank Bros (not spd) pedals. I have Crank Bros Candy and Egg Beater pedals with both MTB and road shoes
Even with all the down sides you explained... still, you get a thumbs up for 💯 % honesty. And so thumbs up. I like mtb cleats on my roadbike too sometimes. But not interested in trying 3 to 2 bolt adapter however. I'm just going to stick to a mtb shoe for 2 bolt cleats.
The shoes are very cool, I would probably buy them myself if they weren’t so impractical for the UK weather ☹️ With the little tab at the back they look like triathlon shoes though.
Check out the system weight of speedplay Ti frogs. Pedals and cleats 256 grams. I use them with the same Shimano RX 8 shoes. They spin super smooth and getting out is the easiest of any clipless I have used.
Sorry!!! DO NOT check out the Ti Frogs. You already have several great pedals already. And the oil slick finish on the Frog Ti spinal is so 1990. Looks just as sweet in 2020.
I did the same with a pair of Fizik Terra powerstrap x4's . great shoes, shame I bought them 1 size too large.
I for one really enjoy watching your videos. Keep it up.
Happy to hear that mate, cheers!
I'm sure you could find some custom carbon three-bolt to two bolt adapter with the longer cleat positioning tracks and wider base with grippy rubber if you tried hard enough.
Pro tip for putting those shoes on... put them on the floor and push your foot into them instead of trying to put them on the normal way. It's way easier!
Will try that! cheers!
Someone once told me that Pearl Izumi and Shimano shoes are made in the same factory using the same Last. No idea if it's true, but they sure do look similar.
Shimano owns pearl izumi from what I understand so they might very well share factories, but the design of the shoe is definitely not a copy of the Shimano offerings.
@@ridesofjapan Shimano owns Dash America, which is the US distributor of Pearl Izumi. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Izumi
I have no idea what that means in terms of factories though.
And sorry I wasn't clear. I wasn't suggesting the shoes between PI and Shimano are copies. Just that the "Last" (the mold that determines the outline of the sole) is reputed to be the same between the two brands. The uppers and styling are different for sure.
Apparently the new Time gravel pedals give you best of both worlds. You can use mtb shoes that have a road feel with a bigger platform and less cleat movement.
How’s the weight on those?
If you have to ask then they aren't for you. Seriously, very limit information but seem to use a bastardisation of times old road style cleats. Think Big Migs era. The weight won't be great as time like using brass in the rear of their cleat.
Gotcha 👍
"Just in case" my other 12 pairs break down, suddenly.
Slamming cleats, didn't know that was a thing!
What do you think about the S-Works 7 shoes? I'm thinking about getting some Lakes to ride alongside the S-Works. Those PI shoes are gorgeous though... mmm so many options
They're awesome shoes.
Super nice looking shoes, I had the SUB6 a few years back, that's the only shoe that I had to sell because it didn't fit me (ate my heal) so have not dared to get another S-works shoe. Many people swear by them though.
@@ridesofjapan I think you should try on the S Works 7. The new heel is very very comfortable. I think the overall shaped has really improved over the 6. The Nice blue color is on sale too!
Joe Yuan I’m trying to cut back on new shoes for now though ;)
@@ridesofjapan Maybe next time when you can't control your NEED for shoes again ;)
I tried on my cycling shoes in the shop before I bought them. It was very comfortable until after the first 40 km ride so there...
I know that feeling as well... but at least the odds are a tad better than buying blind 😅
We would all love to see your high hills collection.... I bet they are beautiful, ja ,ja
Definitely a nice pair of shoes. Something I wouldn't expect from PI.
Check out the Shimano spd pd-es600 pedals. They are lighter than your spd xtr pedals and cheaper. But you can only clip in from one side.
But that mean I would still be "stuck" with MTB shoes ;)
Great vid... especially the outtakes...
I sell old stuff on eBay, many orders go to Miami, I figured it out once when they went to two addresses in the same business park. People get their international shipping by using this company to ship it to them from the company’s American address. So you just need to find the American company that will forward the product to you.
That's what Planet Express I mention in the video does :)
Rides of Japan haha I guess I should listen better 😆
Hehe, I don’t blame you. I wasn’t very clear about that part, didn’t want it to sound like a commercial 😅
11:43 DAMN there is a "tare" button right next to the "on/off" button :D
nice video though :)
feet wrists are called ankles
Ah, that’s the word... god damn Swedish causing trouble for me 😅
@@ridesofjapan Foot necks works for me.
Loz20365 actually I think he means arches. 🙃
Perfect design and a bling color.😍 Don't know about their comfort though....
G K. Definitely try before you buy (like all shoes) they been breaking in good for me, no problems in today’s 90km indoor session.
You an also try to buy some aftermarket titanium spindles for the dura-ace pedals to make them even lighter:)
Informative and hilarious. Thank You kind Sir.
Surely you need to try Look pedals to complete the set?!? 😂
Ian Brewer I seriously need to stop buying pedals now.... but I would lie if I said the though didn’t cross my mind 😬
Rides of Japan Curiosity got the better of me although I’m nowhere near your level - yet 😂 Look Blades are better aesthetically (IMO) & are easier to clip in & out of (for me anyway) but I get quite noticeable rocking in the cleat every so often even when new. As you say if you want fit & forget Shimano seems to be the way to go.
Everyone has their preferences and comfort levels, but I use Candy 7 pedals paired with their 3 hole adapter on my road shoes and the stiffness of the shoes along with ease of clipping into the pedals are why I love this setup . Of course it's easier to walk in mountain shoes, but that's not to say I have any difficulties walking in the 3 hole adapter cleat.
"Not" crazy 😂 i will change to mtb clibs when my roadshoes die.
At the moment i build a student cheap open wide 🤔 wallet dies even by 1500$ so no shoe problem
ha ha ha ha I love your sense of humor man you rock
Never thought the SPD system would only be 20 grams heavier than speed play!
Great vid as always. Have you seen the new Rapha shoes? The new Pro Team Shoes look awesome.
Nice looking shoes indeed.
12:53 The system weight would include the shoes as well.
The Shimano RX8's dominate all bike shoes :) ... the single BOA works awesome, they breathe, work for road and off road... now if they came in other shades of the camo :) , but the silver/grey camo is totally cool. They made me give up on my straight road shoes. SInce they're basically kick-ass road shoes you can walk in without the SPD adapter pontoons. I tried the adapters too on other road shoes since I switched over to all SPD after using Look for 30 yrs., tread rails we jacked up on like the 3rd ride and coming apart. One of the few poor products I've ever seen from Shimano only because of the tread parts.
I pretty much agree with all of that, only “problem” is the looks, hopefully they’ll come up with some crazy color for next season.
Thank You for the weight weenie snuck in and well done with the Beeeeeaaaautiful Shoes😍😎👍
very useful video! thank you for the warnings, although I was expecting something worse, tbh. I recently saw the light with respect to cleat positioning and moved the cleats in all of my shoes (road and mtb/gravel) as far back as I could. One of the road pairs, however, has fixed bolt holes and the difference in cleat position to all my other shoes is very noticeable, to the point where I feel crouched and uncomfortable on the bike compared to the others (ignorance can be bliss, I guess!).
Ergo (no pun intended), I am thinking about hacking that pair into "gravel" shoes with these adapters. For sure I will not be taking them off-road, but they may work just fine for road rides on my gravel bike, as my road bike has been pretty much confined to the home trainer lately.
Entartaining video as always! Just a fast question, have you tried something like the shimano PD-ES60? They are cheaper and lighter than the XTR even though it's only one-side clip, but have a bigger platform like the spd-sl. I think they should be a nice combo with some fizik terra powerstrap for some touring with a road bike (if only fizik made this model in reflective or movistar fashion instead of dull colors )
Never tried it myself, but looks like an excellent option. Knowing what I know today I would pick them over the Xpedo’s for sure 👍
I'v actually been quite happy with the adapters. I have them on fizik infinito r1 and mavic wintershoes. The heel rubber is maybe a bit minimal on the pearl izumi's and does not really help for stability.
I think your right about the heal issue.
No durability issues for you then?
@@ridesofjapan The mounting was a bit weird as I was unable to get them tight enough initially, but using carbon paste between the metal part and your sole helps a lot to get the play out. At least in my case. The rubber thread walks off with time as you can imagine, but they're not too bad.
Having a lightweight hybrid shoe with SPD mount and very minimal thread + stiff carbon sole yet has to be released though
Cheers for the feedback, always good to know 👌
I had sh40 spd adapter, rubber is gone in one month. There is also a SPD adapter by Sidi
Good to know, Cheers!
I found the adapter cleats more difficult to clip out of the pedals, quite dangerous. Why they are even produced is a mystery, they are really bad
@Rides of Japan Great video, as always!! I've always ask myself, why you never mention the CrankBrothers EggBeaters? They are REALLY light!
Really light, but I'm not too sure about durability. Anyway, I'm not buying any more pedals for a while! ;)
Funny video man. For me, I just wear running shoes and have a cool set of anodized aluminum pedals that match my bike. Less to worry about, cheers.
Thanks Tobias!👍🏻
those cleat adapters...I got some a few years ago...so slippery and dangerous. I took em off and gave em away.
I have the crank brothers adapter that works great for gravel races
Tobias, you can try top of Specialized mtb shoes. Like a new Specialized Recon S-works or old Specialized XC6 S-works. Same same in feeling, only design changes. It's the best mtb shoes ever that I used. Sidi, Pearl izumi, Shimano (what ever mtb or road version) ... not so good.
Specialized don’t fit my feet good, last time was the sworks sub6, had to sell them in the end. Nice looking kicks non the less 👍
This video is helpful. Thank you.