I played Olinda on the morning of my best mate's wedding back in 2007 - good memories. I'm now a runner and often run through the old course. I've got some great pictures of it blanketed with snow back in 2019
I played at Olinda once many years ago with my brother and his mate, I started off a bit shaky but came home pretty well. Those greens were so hard, we swore that on a couple of times the ball rolled up hill lol. There was this par 4 that went straight down a hill, both my brother and his mate rushed their shots thinking they could make the green, one sliced and the other hooked. I just focused and took my time and the ball ended up just off the green. To this day that moment is still one of my happy golf memories.
I'm still a member of the Olinda golf club, grew up playing my junior years there. The building you were looking at was the restaurant and not the club house. Our club house was on the other side of the carpark. Also the holes you walked around and played in order if my memory is correct was 1st, 5th/7th (course changed around at one stage), 3rd and 2nd if that helps.
@@underthecard If you want to know more let me know, I also believe our clubs captain has reached out to you also about the old course. Olinda as a club is still together, we currently play at Beaconhills golf course. We also had a few year stint at Emerald golf course before that closed also
I walk our dog there regularly and meet so many fabulous locals, it's a top spot. Parks Vic and the Shire destroyed the top section in the name of footy, despite strong opposition. So many people mention that they played there, just once they often add! 😂
Such a tragic waste !!!!. There is a massive Tudor style dining room in the back of the clubhouse...really beautiful. Played this course several years back with the Mulligans(24 great mates) Fun days and a bloody great course in its time although the angle of the fairways meant a beautiful drive rolled sideways to the fence .😅😅😅😅 Enjoyed your film.Well done 👍
There is a hillier golf course Lorne, you get to play all the holes along the bottom fence. Olinda was similar the balks would roll down to the bottom fence.
I had no idea it had even closed! And I live in Boronia, not that far really. I have fond memories of this golf course and remember how tough it was not only physically but to play we used to say it was designed for mountain goats. I’ve also played Warburton a few times, which is also hilly, but Olinda GC, was much steeper. I think its origins date back to the early 1930s when I believe it was only a 9 hole course. Thank you for this video. Ps: I’ve often wondered, even when I used to play there, what the course record was? Do you happen to know? It would have been very difficult to break par I would have thought! Ps: You were standing on one of the easiest holes it was all downhill to the green In summer when the course / ground was much dryer you’d get a lot of carry if you hit the ball straight!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Not sure what the course record was, but yes, the side slopes and some of the hills would have made scoring more difficult. Did you watch my video from Warburton back in 2021? I couldn’t believe how downhill the 18th at Warburton is!
@ Yes! Just watched it now! The memories come flooding back ( I haven’t played since June 2012) many years ago I remember playing 2 rounds of 18 hole golf on the Warby course, well! Almost we ( three of us one of which was a former tour pro) were about 3 holes short of completing 36 holes and we were completely spent!
Played there a few times as a teenager. I distinctly remember the 14th hole. Par 3 huge uphill from tee box to green. If you didn't make it, the ball basically ran 100m+ back to the tee box!
It was a really fun but sometimes overly challenging course with the slopes. Played it many times best time to play was in winter/spring when soft underfoot. Meant the ball could hold the fairways! No good in summer with the ball rolling the wrong way for miles. A great place for a casual game with a few mates and a few drinks after. Great video HP!
Played it with mates when at uni, was cheap, hard work so good for footy preseason and a decent feed afterwards if you went at the right time. Also had some of the loveliest views...enjoyed it a lot, fun memories, sad to see it shut.
Our family holiday house was down at Lorne. We were about 100 yards from the 4th green. Know the course very well. Another hilly course is Beacon Hills, located in Upper Beaconsfield.
@@bradwilliams2081 The fourth is the very narrow short downhill par-4 isn’t it? I want to get back to Lorne to film a video if I can. Do you know if the rope pulley to the 9th tee is still there?
@@underthecard It's been a long time since I last played the course. Yep, the 4th is the downhill par 4...across the road from the 3rd green. The 5th was the short downhill par 3 and the 6th was the slight dog leg par 4 with a 2 tier green.. As for the rope pulley, I wasn't even aware of it. A lot has probably changed over the years. As a kid, I used to wait until quite late and play the 5th, 6th,7th, then walk over to the 3rd tee and play that and the 4th and then the short walk back to the house.
First time I tried to play, the fog and low cloud meant you couldn’t see more than 50m, was also only course I played with snow falling. Used to head up with 4 of us in a 120Y and 4 sets of clubs. On the back 9, the terror was the 16th which went straight back up the hill towards the clubhouse….almost killed you everytime you played it late in the round.
Used to play junior pennant there. Invariably teed off in a thick fog and was known to have snow on occasion. If the fairways were baked you couldn’t hold them and they had little fences inside the boundary so your ball wouldn’t run out of bounds!
I played the course with a couple of mates back in the 1980s during the warmer months. I concur with other comments about the sideway slanting fairways. You'd hit the ball to the far uphill side and if you missed the preferred landing zone the ball would roll all the way across the fairway to the bottom of the hill making the remainder of the hole more of a challenge and very physically taxing. I believe the local members only played the top 6 holes to save playing down the low back end of the course. That long straight downhill hole with the views was their signature hole and amazing to play. It was along way to the green, but if you hit a good straight shot your ball had a chance of rolling all the way to the green after it came down from space 😂 We were all young fun golfers so needless to say we all had our largest scores ever by far, a record that still stands for us all today 40+ years on and vowing never to play the course again 😅
Played there many times with my uncle I remember my father walking off after 9 holes saying you need to be a mountain goat to play on this golf course. 😂😂
I bit sad &nostalgic seeing the Old Course so run down...had many a memorable game there. The Olinda Golf club is now still thriving at BeaconHills... come and join us there... You're most welcome!
Played pennant as a youngster in the VGL. The hole with the YV views was the 3rd. First time I ever hit over 300 metres (from an average 220m 'normal' hit).
@@ablett295 Pennant is such a great way to experience courses we otherwise might not venture to play. My first ever pennant game was at Croydon (also no longer a course) and I thought that was really hilly but Olinda would have been another level altogether.
Began playing golf there in mid-70’s. Was just a hut to pay. During summer if you hooked your ball in to the rough you left it there fearing the many snakes. So hilly some holes had a marker on top of hill you aimed for and hoped for the best not knowing where your ball landed. Lucky I was fit back then to do a round but couldn’t do it today in my 60’s
The Olinda Golf Club is now located at the Beaconsfield Course. The course basically shut after the person who took over running the course from the previous and forgot to check that all the licenses where transferred unfortunately not and run into financial difficulties.
FUN GOLF COARSE EXTREMILY TUFF IN SUMMER YOU WOULD HIT BALLS TO THE NONE SLOPE SIDE AND THEY WOULD RUN OFF THE FAIRWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE BORONIA FC USED TO TRAIN THERE AS PUNISHMENT FOR A LOSS😭
I have an enduring memory of the 9th green. It must have been around 1969 when this boy and his girl decided, in the depths of the midnight darkness and just for the devilment, to irreverently, disrespect and desecrate that hallowed green. We really gave that picnic rug a good workout. 😂 Please, excuse my mirth. The things we did.
@underthecard Cool.... I was also playing in the Ivo's 05-07.... I had a feeling I played Olinda, it sounds familiar for some reason, I assumed it was an Ivo event I played in..... 🤷♂️
I feel like it’s mandatory to put “Royal” in front of the names of inner city public courses in Melbourne. I played a lot of my earliest golf at Royal Burnley.
I was a member at Olinda GC in the late 80's, early 90's, and that is not the clubhouse. That was the popular Bide a While restaurant. The clubhouse is the building that backs on to the Olinda football oval. It was the hilliest golf club in Australia, and each year, they held the King of the Mountain tournament, whereby you walk 36 holes in 1 day, and you got a trophy just for finishing. I have 2 trophies from this, and we rarely ever lost pennant, as the other teams could not hack the hills, or know how to play the course properly. It was a great course and a great club, and was closed due to lack of support from the local government, VGL and Parks Victoria. Very sad considering what they have turned it into now; the hilliest dog park in the world, and a traffic/noise/parking black-spot. Well done Parks Victoria = NOT!!
Thank you for the background info Rodney 🙏🏼 I had never been to the course before but now I have an appreciation for how challenging the walk must have been!!
@@underthecard No. Not that I am aware of. I think you will have no problem accessing the car park/clubhouse area. I was Golf Operations Manager there from 04 - 07. Apparently, in 2017. the management team and the Malaysian owner did not see eye to eye on the future of the course, so it closed. When I was there, the General Manager put an extensive plan together to develop the property and to sell it to an entity like the RACV, or similar. It would have been amazing, as there is a lot more land there on top of the course footprint. In the end, the Malaysian owner reneged on his promise to develop and sell, so both of us resigned extremely disappointed after 4 years of unrewarded/underpaid hard work. It has been a repeated story ever since, with alleged benefits to the owner by keeping it closed. Pity, because its potential has no limits. We even had 2 Pro Am's which the Professionals loved. The heritage listed clubhouse is now apparently in major disrepair, and squatter activity is also evident. Very sad situation.
@@rodneyshaw5455 Hi, Rodney....I was president at Emerald soon after it was sold to a developer (Ron Loccisano) in around the early 90's who promised the world to the members but ended up going into receivership....I recall many days spent dealing with the receivers (Ferrier Hodgson) and lawyers trying to retain the rights of the members (a wonderful bunch of people) even to the extent of placing a caveat on the property....unfortunately, we did not have the funds to fight a prolonged legal battle and Loccisano ended up selling to the Malaysian investor who wanted to make it his private course so we had to lease it from him....I was a young professional at the time building up my practice so I passed the baton of the presidency to a colleague who arranged a deal for the membership to transfer to Beacon Hills GCC....sorry about the rant but your post brought back so many pleasant / sad / proud memories.....p.s. my handicap didn't fare too well during this period. 😅
@@jkturtle6384 The reasons are not entirely clear. There are several articles published since 2015, but none of them - from what I could find - go into the reasons for the closure. Some of the articles simply say the golf course was “abandoned by its owners” with no further detail.
I played their once , needed one leg shorter than the other😁 pity that they closed the clubhouse down, would have made a great cafe restaurant and introduce some birdlife and kangaroos💁
I grew up in Olinda and Monbulk and learnt how to play golf on the Olinda and Emerald courses as a child! Definitely the hardest way to learn golf but I do miss both of those courses for nostalgic reasons!! 🥲
I was President and Captain at Emerald during the 80's and 90's and have fond memories of both Emerald and Olinda....they were not Royal Melbourne but such a great bunch of people. 😊
@@peterlangdon6043I wonder if you knew my grandfather Brian Phillips, who used to play at Emerald at about the same time. I have faint memories of walking the course with him from time to time
Marysville golf course is absolutely beautiful. Some really tight drives there as well but some of the views are just spectacular and when the holes wind up near the national park and with the river winding its way through the course also. Beautiful tree ferns also stand out. Small greens from memory but very nice course, and some really challenging holes.
Played my first ever round here, and quite a few more. One of the holes was so slanted they had little fences to stop your ball rolling off the course. Sad to see it like this
I played there a few times when a Uni student about 1970. The highlight was that downhill hole with the view. I think it was over 300 yards, straight downhill. In the summer , an ordinary hacker like me could do a 300 yard drive (IF I hit a straight one....unusual!)
I bit sad &nostalgic seeing the Old Course so run down...had many a memorable game there. The Olinda Golf club is now still thriving at BeaconHills... come and join us there... You're most welcome!
Enjoyed reading all the comments here, as much as the video itself.
I visited in 2015 and walked the abandoned course. Really fascinating expedience.
I played Olinda on the morning of my best mate's wedding back in 2007 - good memories.
I'm now a runner and often run through the old course. I've got some great pictures of it blanketed with snow back in 2019
@@Lance-im6tw Thanks Lance. It would be great to see some of those pictures if you’re happy to email them to me?
I played at Olinda once many years ago with my brother and his mate, I started off a bit shaky but came home pretty well. Those greens were so hard, we swore that on a couple of times the ball rolled up hill lol. There was this par 4 that went straight down a hill, both my brother and his mate rushed their shots thinking they could make the green, one sliced and the other hooked. I just focused and took my time and the ball ended up just off the green. To this day that moment is still one of my happy golf memories.
I'm still a member of the Olinda golf club, grew up playing my junior years there. The building you were looking at was the restaurant and not the club house. Our club house was on the other side of the carpark.
Also the holes you walked around and played in order if my memory is correct was 1st, 5th/7th (course changed around at one stage), 3rd and 2nd if that helps.
@@prydeey Thank you 🙏🏼
@@underthecard If you want to know more let me know, I also believe our clubs captain has reached out to you also about the old course. Olinda as a club is still together, we currently play at Beaconhills golf course. We also had a few year stint at Emerald golf course before that closed also
@@prydeey Thank you. I would like to find out a bit more about the old course at Emerald. Feel free to drop me an email - info@underthecard.com
I played pennant golf there many times in my younger years. Extremely hilly.
I walk our dog there regularly and meet so many fabulous locals, it's a top spot. Parks Vic and the Shire destroyed the top section in the name of footy, despite strong opposition.
So many people mention that they played there, just once they often add! 😂
Such a tragic waste !!!!.
There is a massive Tudor style dining room in the back of the clubhouse...really beautiful.
Played this course several years back with the Mulligans(24 great mates)
Fun days and a bloody great course in its time although the angle of the fairways meant a beautiful drive rolled sideways to the fence .😅😅😅😅
Enjoyed your film.Well done 👍
Thanks very much Jeremy. Yep, steep side slopes like that make golf a little bit tricky! You at least hope that building will be made useful somehow.
If you want to see a hilly golf course, try Berhampore Golf Course or Titahi Bay GC. Both in Wellington NZ. Make that joint look flat
There is a hillier golf course Lorne, you get to play all the holes along the bottom fence. Olinda was similar the balks would roll down to the bottom fence.
I had no idea it had even closed! And I live in Boronia, not that far really. I have fond memories of this golf course and remember how tough it was not only physically but to play we used to say it was designed for mountain goats. I’ve also played Warburton a few times, which is also hilly, but Olinda GC, was much steeper. I think its origins date back to the early 1930s when I believe it was only a 9 hole course. Thank you for this video. Ps: I’ve often wondered, even when I used to play there, what the course record was? Do you happen to know? It would have been very difficult to break par I would have thought! Ps: You were standing on one of the easiest holes it was all downhill to the green In summer when the course / ground was much dryer you’d get a lot of carry if you hit the ball straight!
Glad you enjoyed the video. Not sure what the course record was, but yes, the side slopes and some of the hills would have made scoring more difficult. Did you watch my video from Warburton back in 2021? I couldn’t believe how downhill the 18th at Warburton is!
@ Yes! Just watched it now! The memories come flooding back ( I haven’t played since June 2012) many years ago I remember playing 2 rounds of 18 hole golf on the Warby course, well! Almost we ( three of us one of which was a former tour pro) were about 3 holes short of completing 36 holes and we were completely spent!
Played there a few times as a teenager. I distinctly remember the 14th hole. Par 3 huge uphill from tee box to green. If you didn't make it, the ball basically ran 100m+ back to the tee box!
It was a really fun but sometimes overly challenging course with the slopes. Played it many times best time to play was in winter/spring when soft underfoot. Meant the ball could hold the fairways! No good in summer with the ball rolling the wrong way for miles. A great place for a casual game with a few mates and a few drinks after. Great video HP!
@@NickThornton-e3e Thanks very much Nick!
Hi, Nick....from Peter Langdon...long time, mate. 😊
@@peterlangdon6043 Hi Pete it has been hope you are well and still striding the fairways!
Played it with mates when at uni, was cheap, hard work so good for footy preseason and a decent feed afterwards if you went at the right time. Also had some of the loveliest views...enjoyed it a lot, fun memories, sad to see it shut.
Our family holiday house was down at Lorne. We were about 100 yards from the 4th green. Know the course very well. Another hilly course is Beacon Hills, located in Upper Beaconsfield.
@@bradwilliams2081 The fourth is the very narrow short downhill par-4 isn’t it? I want to get back to Lorne to film a video if I can. Do you know if the rope pulley to the 9th tee is still there?
@@underthecard It's been a long time since I last played the course. Yep, the 4th is the downhill par 4...across the road from the 3rd green. The 5th was the short downhill par 3 and the 6th was the slight dog leg par 4 with a 2 tier green.. As for the rope pulley, I wasn't even aware of it. A lot has probably changed over the years. As a kid, I used to wait until quite late and play the 5th, 6th,7th, then walk over to the 3rd tee and play that and the 4th and then the short walk back to the house.
First time I tried to play, the fog and low cloud meant you couldn’t see more than 50m, was also only course I played with snow falling. Used to head up with 4 of us in a 120Y and 4 sets of clubs. On the back 9, the terror was the 16th which went straight back up the hill towards the clubhouse….almost killed you everytime you played it late in the round.
Such a shame, I wish someone would bring it back.
Used to play junior pennant there. Invariably teed off in a thick fog and was known to have snow on occasion. If the fairways were baked you couldn’t hold them and they had little fences inside the boundary so your ball wouldn’t run out of bounds!
@@BrendanNolan-c7e Those sound like some treacherous playing conditions!
I played the course with a couple of mates back in the 1980s during the warmer months. I concur with other comments about the sideway slanting fairways. You'd hit the ball to the far uphill side and if you missed the preferred landing zone the ball would roll all the way across the fairway to the bottom of the hill making the remainder of the hole more of a challenge and very physically taxing. I believe the local members only played the top 6 holes to save playing down the low back end of the course. That long straight downhill hole with the views was their signature hole and amazing to play. It was along way to the green, but if you hit a good straight shot your ball had a chance of rolling all the way to the green after it came down from space 😂 We were all young fun golfers so needless to say we all had our largest scores ever by far, a record that still stands for us all today 40+ years on and vowing never to play the course again 😅
Played there many times with my uncle I remember my father walking off after 9 holes saying you need to be a mountain goat to play on this golf course. 😂😂
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He never played in Scotland
I bit sad &nostalgic seeing the Old Course so run down...had many a memorable game there. The Olinda Golf club is now still thriving at BeaconHills... come and join us there... You're most welcome!
Played pennant as a youngster in the VGL. The hole with the YV views was the 3rd. First time I ever hit over 300 metres (from an average 220m 'normal' hit).
@@ablett295 Pennant is such a great way to experience courses we otherwise might not venture to play. My first ever pennant game was at Croydon (also no longer a course) and I thought that was really hilly but Olinda would have been another level altogether.
Began playing golf there in mid-70’s. Was just a hut to pay. During summer if you hooked your ball in to the rough you left it there fearing the many snakes. So hilly some holes had a marker on top of hill you aimed for and hoped for the best not knowing where your ball landed. Lucky I was fit back then to do a round but couldn’t do it today in my 60’s
The Olinda Golf Club is now located at the Beaconsfield Course. The course basically shut after the person who took over running the course from the previous and forgot to check that all the licenses where transferred unfortunately not and run into financial difficulties.
Golf course where I had my only eagle - 2 on a par 4. Couldn’t see that I had holed it because of severe slope I played up 😢
@@wrwosster89076 Nice one! Was it on the old hole we looked at towards the end of the video by any chance?
@@underthecard likely yes!!
FUN GOLF COARSE EXTREMILY TUFF IN SUMMER YOU WOULD HIT BALLS TO THE NONE SLOPE SIDE AND THEY WOULD RUN OFF THE FAIRWAY ON THE OTHER SIDE BORONIA FC USED TO TRAIN THERE AS PUNISHMENT FOR A LOSS😭
I have an enduring memory of the 9th green. It must have been around 1969 when this boy and his girl decided, in the depths of the midnight darkness and just for the devilment, to irreverently, disrespect and desecrate that hallowed green. We really gave that picnic rug a good workout. 😂 Please, excuse my mirth. The things we did.
Was Olinda part of the Ivo Whitten Trophy schedule?
@@chrispalmer9952 I don’t think it was when I was playing lots of Ivo Whitton events in 2006-07.
@underthecard Cool.... I was also playing in the Ivo's 05-07.... I had a feeling I played Olinda, it sounds familiar for some reason, I assumed it was an Ivo event I played in..... 🤷♂️
Reminds me of Royal Wattle Park in parts…
I feel like it’s mandatory to put “Royal” in front of the names of inner city public courses in Melbourne. I played a lot of my earliest golf at Royal Burnley.
I was a member at Olinda GC in the late 80's, early 90's, and that is not the clubhouse. That was the popular Bide a While restaurant. The clubhouse is the building that backs on to the Olinda football oval. It was the hilliest golf club in Australia, and each year, they held the King of the Mountain tournament, whereby you walk 36 holes in 1 day, and you got a trophy just for finishing. I have 2 trophies from this, and we rarely ever lost pennant, as the other teams could not hack the hills, or know how to play the course properly. It was a great course and a great club, and was closed due to lack of support from the local government, VGL and Parks Victoria. Very sad considering what they have turned it into now; the hilliest dog park in the world, and a traffic/noise/parking black-spot. Well done Parks Victoria = NOT!!
Thank you for the background info Rodney 🙏🏼 I had never been to the course before but now I have an appreciation for how challenging the walk must have been!!
@@underthecard Cheers. You should do a similar video on Emerald Golf & Country Club Resort?
@@rodneyshaw5455 Yes, I’m told it’s private property though. Is there anyone actively managing Emerald now?
@@underthecard No. Not that I am aware of. I think you will have no problem accessing the car park/clubhouse area. I was Golf Operations Manager there from 04 - 07. Apparently, in 2017. the management team and the Malaysian owner did not see eye to eye on the future of the course, so it closed. When I was there, the General Manager put an extensive plan together to develop the property and to sell it to an entity like the RACV, or similar. It would have been amazing, as there is a lot more land there on top of the course footprint. In the end, the Malaysian owner reneged on his promise to develop and sell, so both of us resigned extremely disappointed after 4 years of unrewarded/underpaid hard work. It has been a repeated story ever since, with alleged benefits to the owner by keeping it closed. Pity, because its potential has no limits. We even had 2 Pro Am's which the Professionals loved. The heritage listed clubhouse is now apparently in major disrepair, and squatter activity is also evident. Very sad situation.
@@rodneyshaw5455 Hi, Rodney....I was president at Emerald soon after it was sold to a developer (Ron Loccisano) in around the early 90's who promised the world to the members but ended up going into receivership....I recall many days spent dealing with the receivers (Ferrier Hodgson) and lawyers trying to retain the rights of the members (a wonderful bunch of people) even to the extent of placing a caveat on the property....unfortunately, we did not have the funds to fight a prolonged legal battle and Loccisano ended up selling to the Malaysian investor who wanted to make it his private course so we had to lease it from him....I was a young professional at the time building up my practice so I passed the baton of the presidency to a colleague who arranged a deal for the membership to transfer to Beacon Hills GCC....sorry about the rant but your post brought back so many pleasant / sad / proud memories.....p.s. my handicap didn't fare too well during this period. 😅
Why did it actually shutdown?
@@jkturtle6384 The reasons are not entirely clear. There are several articles published since 2015, but none of them - from what I could find - go into the reasons for the closure. Some of the articles simply say the golf course was “abandoned by its owners” with no further detail.
The course is on crown land, "managed" by Parks Victoria which just could not be bothered to maintain the course.
I played their once , needed one leg shorter than the other😁 pity that they closed the clubhouse down, would have made a great cafe restaurant and introduce some birdlife and kangaroos💁
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Communities die when golf dies
What did you expect after many years of being closed😂
I grew up in Olinda and Monbulk and learnt how to play golf on the Olinda and Emerald courses as a child!
Definitely the hardest way to learn golf but I do miss both of those courses for nostalgic reasons!! 🥲
I was President and Captain at Emerald during the 80's and 90's and have fond memories of both Emerald and Olinda....they were not Royal Melbourne but such a great bunch of people. 😊
@@peterlangdon6043I wonder if you knew my grandfather Brian Phillips, who used to play at Emerald at about the same time. I have faint memories of walking the course with him from time to time
@@Lance-im6tw I do remember Brian vaguely....I think he may have even been on the Board at some point.
Go checkout Marysville golf course if you want hills especially the back nine! Thanks for sharing! 🙏👍👌🇦🇺
Thanks for the tip 🙏🏼
Marysville golf course is absolutely beautiful. Some really tight drives there as well but some of the views are just spectacular and when the holes wind up near the national park and with the river winding its way through the course also. Beautiful tree ferns also stand out. Small greens from memory but very nice course, and some really challenging holes.
@@shaun34 Thanks Shaun!
Played my first ever round here, and quite a few more.
One of the holes was so slanted they had little fences to stop your ball rolling off the course.
Sad to see it like this
Fantastic video
I played there a few times when a Uni student about 1970. The highlight was that downhill hole with the view. I think it was over 300 yards, straight downhill. In the summer , an ordinary hacker like me could do a 300 yard drive (IF I hit a straight one....unusual!)
I bit sad &nostalgic seeing the Old Course so run down...had many a memorable game there. The Olinda Golf club is now still thriving at BeaconHills... come and join us there... You're most welcome!