Warriors/warlocks are best on defense, next best defence usually dk or mage then ret, it really depends on your comp though. Like if you have 2 rogues 1 sub rogue D is good, boomies/dh should always be on offense while classes like dk/ret are usually quite good at both. In general you want 2 dps back. As for sitting it's always the guardian and rogue. If you need a third to sit you could have boomy/ret/dk as long as they have their cds to spin, and usually in cases where you have a third, you're gonna have 1 person floating anyway so you're effectively double sitting it and don't necessarily need a third good sitter
Great video. I think disc is more important than mentioned because Powerword Barrier + dome of light is one of the most powerful defensives in the game especially on maps like EOTS and SSM. I love that you mentioned Cleanse the weak, as it is something I have said is really strong (too strong tbh) many times on my stream. I am a member of Posi Vibes Gaming and a lot of our RBG clips are used in the video. We have a lot of upcoming RBG TH-cam content coming and we would love to collaborate sometime.
Interesting review, thanks! It is a pity that the only way Mages can be competitive it RBG is Necro Frost, hopefully they will make Fire or at least Arcane more viable for it in 10.0.
@@matthewgarcia7654 It is something, but more specs should be viable, including Mages, especially since Deatborne is likely to be gone in 10.0 and we might return to previous situation if it is not addressed.
Frostmage is viable regardless. As venthyr with mirrors and constant brainfreeze procs you are putting a hell of a lot of pressure on kill targets, and that is what counts, not some easily healable spread damage from dots. You can have all those shiny looking AE classes but if noone falls, those fights go on with meaningless spread damage for ages and noone drops.
the sauce should be destro lock, kyrian warrior, and DK the warlock ground havoc with warrior kyrian, and DK to pull everyone in is a disgusting combo to wipe a team.
Yup I just made a comment about it, we don't do well against sustained damage but we can port and then dragon kick away, I usually finish the game with 0-2 deaths because we're almost invincible
IMO it would work great. I'd say Outlaw can flex into team fights better due to additional tankyness, but sub is better for capping objectives because of the endless cc.
@@christiantaboada that's kind of what I was thinking too but I don't have any experience to back it up. I just returned to the game and haven't done any RBGs yet this season. I'm about to hit 60 on my rogue alt and intend on going outlaw main spec. I imagine it would slot in well for a melee team fight especially with full stacks of brawler up. Nice on demand CC and burst for priority kills. Solid mobility and sustainable cleave pressure. Seems like a lot of potential on paper. Hopefully I can find some groups on alliance, I'd rather not spend the cash or gold on a faction change.
@@oddthemute6172 as long as you spend the time to gear up you'll do just fine. Nowadays you can play rbgs cross faction provided the teams are not faction snobs. I play horde but I don't mind playing with whatever.
Also I've seen many outlaws highly rated in 2v2 and 3v3 which gives testament to their durability. With talents like fly like a butterfly, elusiveness with feint and brawler you have a melee more durable than a current fury or arms warrior.
I totally disagree with mistweaver. 2 disc priests and a hpal is still the best healer comp. On disc section you totally forgot of Purge the Wicked + atonement, the best hot in the game.
Destro is stronger on base maps, bane of havoc is super strong, I killed 7 people in 8 bolts... Affli 100% for ctf though :D if you have a dk with abom limb, you conflag, infernal and bane of havoc on abom limb and boom ez kills!
Is it possible to take a shadow priest in place of a affiction warlock? Because they do both big damage with dottes, the SP can be a good help for help healer with his cd than when he does damage he heals all people around + necrolord power is can be Incredible!
Okay, skill capped, you're amazing, however, time after time you sleep on WW Monks, I have only ever had DH and affliction locks this whole expansion get nearly close to our dpsing me, please play monk in rbgs with Keefer legendary, you'll understand what I mean.
WW monks are insane. I'll partner with a ww anytime. I am a boomkin which has really high dps thanks to starts and Mass aoe but there are only 2 specs that always out dps me that's MM hunter and WW monks
The reason you sleep on ww monk is that if you so much as move into the enemy backlline you are insta dead. It’s not that they can’t oneshot, it’s that it’s just to easy to take out and flip the team fight into a 8 v 7 or whatever it will be. Ww monk can barely survive 3s, in rbgs being a melee so you have to extend with omegalul defensives is just not viable.
Hpal being core healer seems a little off. I would say Disc priest is core and mw / hpal are compliments. Holy with the angel / MD is stronger than hpal cleanse the weak against warlock comps. rdruid is also played a lot because they have great mobility and stealth with solid output.
More rbg content! Woo!!! Keep it coming!
10 destro locks is how I would build my ideal RBG team
I fought that. They all had 4m+ damage and most kills. It was cancer.
please more rbg content on youtube, aswell as on your skillcapped platform
Discuss how the comp should function in certain maps. Who should sit who should escort FC etc.
Warriors/warlocks are best on defense, next best defence usually dk or mage then ret, it really depends on your comp though. Like if you have 2 rogues 1 sub rogue D is good, boomies/dh should always be on offense while classes like dk/ret are usually quite good at both. In general you want 2 dps back. As for sitting it's always the guardian and rogue. If you need a third to sit you could have boomy/ret/dk as long as they have their cds to spin, and usually in cases where you have a third, you're gonna have 1 person floating anyway so you're effectively double sitting it and don't necessarily need a third good sitter
Great video. I think disc is more important than mentioned because Powerword Barrier + dome of light is one of the most powerful defensives in the game especially on maps like EOTS and SSM. I love that you mentioned Cleanse the weak, as it is something I have said is really strong (too strong tbh) many times on my stream.
I am a member of Posi Vibes Gaming and a lot of our RBG clips are used in the video. We have a lot of upcoming RBG TH-cam content coming and we would love to collaborate sometime.
But dome was brought up...
Dk's grip, with warriors spear and boomkin's solar beams are just beautiful to watch when done correctly
hunter feign gg.
@@TheOlddr I think ideally you want this done on a healer
@@ninerdawg7749 greater fade inc
Half of the team is still dead, the other had to use all their defensive and lost their momentum.
@@ninerdawg7749 survival hunter new heal spec confirmed
Core group: Guardian druid, sub rogue, hpala. Rest - 2 affliction warlocks, 1 balance druid/assa rogue, 2 dc priests + 2 wild cards (DK+DH or DH+DH or -Frost Mage+Shadow Priest)
Yeah I got oneshot as holy paladin with Cleanse the weak talent. It dispeled all unstable afflictions xD
Compliments? Isn't it supposed to be complements? XD Regardless, thanks for the vid!
I'll just followup with the utility of dh cannot be OVERstated.
I think they should call Core = Main course, then Supplements then Sauce 🤣🤣
One thing ele does have is control of lava which is a pretty good cc, could tip a kill over the edge also the aoe pressure the give
My ideal comp is 3 resto druids and 7 balance druids.
I would invite players with the highest exp (glad/hota), current rating and gear. Despite their class/spec.
If you’re playing alliance on NA it seems there’s not a lot of people to choose from anyways
Interesting review, thanks!
It is a pity that the only way Mages can be competitive it RBG is Necro Frost, hopefully they will make Fire or at least Arcane more viable for it in 10.0.
It is a blessing. I dont remember serious groups thinking about any of the mage specs in the previous 2 seasons for RBG
@@matthewgarcia7654 It is something, but more specs should be viable, including Mages, especially since Deatborne is likely to be gone in 10.0 and we might return to previous situation if it is not addressed.
@@user-jl2gj3tt7s Welcome to WoW where it has been like this for certain specs since Classic, my friend.
@@matthewgarcia7654 Dragonflight can cause winds of change with its talent trees, but we will see)
Frostmage is viable regardless. As venthyr with mirrors and constant brainfreeze procs you are putting a hell of a lot of pressure on kill targets, and that is what counts, not some easily healable spread damage from dots. You can have all those shiny looking AE classes but if noone falls, those fights go on with meaningless spread damage for ages and noone drops.
So basically if I'm a spriest I gotta switch to disc priest for rbgs 😂
Shadow seems to be a lot weaker than it used to be. Some people can still rock it but it's rare
U talk about hpala casuse of dispell. And a rshaman can deal doble dispail per RBG with a special combination of talents.
What is the trinket called that makes us able to glide in rbgs?
10 guardian druids, with 4 set half playing venthyr other half night fae.
Hey from Ukraine! I love how you setting omnibar pn arena, do i have a chance to get your lua files for the addon?
I saw alot of Resto Druid in these clips
R Druid is great in RBGs. Sleeper.
the sauce should be destro lock, kyrian warrior, and DK the warlock ground havoc with warrior kyrian, and DK to pull everyone in is a disgusting combo to wipe a team.
I love how they didn't put a 10th player for the rbg comp lol
who didnt know lontar is main rbg player? lol, lontar, hero of the horde VAMOS!
I swear WW monk is slept on in RBGS
good damage, they just get blown up super fast without defensives up
Yup I just made a comment about it, we don't do well against sustained damage but we can port and then dragon kick away, I usually finish the game with 0-2 deaths because we're almost invincible
If you like always being the KT play WW
It's not, it was meta till two months ago lol
Port and dragon kick away is a nice escape but then you're not trading damage in team fights. Easiest kill target in RBG
Why sub rogue in particular though? Sin can base defend well too.
shadow dance is really valuble for multiple stun locks on multiple people at once and shadowy duel is busted for off nodes and killing flag carriers
@@GoronsCave this.
You can’t defend a base as assassination. No shadow duel, no chain stuns, no shuriken tornado. You loose it in the opener
What about an outlaw rogue instead of a second sub rogue?
IMO it would work great. I'd say Outlaw can flex into team fights better due to additional tankyness, but sub is better for capping objectives because of the endless cc.
@@christiantaboada that's kind of what I was thinking too but I don't have any experience to back it up. I just returned to the game and haven't done any RBGs yet this season. I'm about to hit 60 on my rogue alt and intend on going outlaw main spec.
I imagine it would slot in well for a melee team fight especially with full stacks of brawler up. Nice on demand CC and burst for priority kills. Solid mobility and sustainable cleave pressure. Seems like a lot of potential on paper. Hopefully I can find some groups on alliance, I'd rather not spend the cash or gold on a faction change.
@@oddthemute6172 as long as you spend the time to gear up you'll do just fine. Nowadays you can play rbgs cross faction provided the teams are not faction snobs. I play horde but I don't mind playing with whatever.
Also I've seen many outlaws highly rated in 2v2 and 3v3 which gives testament to their durability. With talents like fly like a butterfly, elusiveness with feint and brawler you have a melee more durable than a current fury or arms warrior.
You use the outlaw as a teamfighter that can help the sub rogue taking nodes when you need it.
10 rogues let's go
I totally disagree with mistweaver. 2 disc priests and a hpal is still the best healer comp. On disc section you totally forgot of Purge the Wicked + atonement, the best hot in the game.
Two Hpala and 8xstar burst boomies😏
if you are a mage and you can't enter even 500 games 1.4mmr negative winratio groups, you are not alone.
ideal rbg comp is 10 people becouse nobody plays anymore KEKW
damn right
Fuk this shit !!!
true KEKW
Destro is stronger on base maps, bane of havoc is super strong, I killed 7 people in 8 bolts... Affli 100% for ctf though :D if you have a dk with abom limb, you conflag, infernal and bane of havoc on abom limb and boom ez kills!
meta is: double disc/hpala + guardian/boomie + 2affli + 2 rogs + 2 boomies... for most of the maps
This is not wrong at all
The meta is definitely not 2 rogues, at least on Eu
*cries in Shadow Priest*
Is it possible to take a shadow priest in place of a affiction warlock? Because they do both big damage with dottes, the SP can be a good help for help healer with his cd than when he does damage he heals all people around + necrolord power is can be Incredible!
they are gonna dispel all your dots with no consequences in higher ratings
nothing compares to the total output an affli and boomie can do in AOE sadly.
Joking? Spriest dots tickle.
ideal RBG comp: 10 droods
Wrong.. get 10 druids 😁 ... Nah good lil info video. thx 👍
SOOO basically, tank are non existence if not druid.... nice balance
Just made a lot of specs unplayable because nobody will invite 🤣
No sp? Fast md purge psyfy stun silence fear life swap dispel disease mindgames best execute leap mind control vamp emrace heal with PI ….
I am the viewer 100 :D
Okay, skill capped, you're amazing, however, time after time you sleep on WW Monks, I have only ever had DH and affliction locks this whole expansion get nearly close to our dpsing me, please play monk in rbgs with Keefer legendary, you'll understand what I mean.
WW monks are insane. I'll partner with a ww anytime. I am a boomkin which has really high dps thanks to starts and Mass aoe but there are only 2 specs that always out dps me that's MM hunter and WW monks
The reason you sleep on ww monk is that if you so much as move into the enemy backlline you are insta dead. It’s not that they can’t oneshot, it’s that it’s just to easy to take out and flip the team fight into a 8 v 7 or whatever it will be. Ww monk can barely survive 3s, in rbgs being a melee so you have to extend with omegalul defensives is just not viable.
@@TheThunder367 This. Monks can output crazy damage bout out of karma and they're butter for a lot of hot knives
Hpal being core healer seems a little off. I would say Disc priest is core and mw / hpal are compliments. Holy with the angel / MD is stronger than hpal cleanse the weak against warlock comps. rdruid is also played a lot because they have great mobility and stealth with solid output.
You need hpal on wsg and twin peaks, so you can sac bubble gos.
Hpal is very necessary for Flag maps
Rip PvP rshamans you know u suck when they say even a " rsham" can be ok .maybe next season we rise again..
First!
Solo que yet? Call me when solo que
Ww monk cry