As a 26 years old Taiwanese, the history I learned at school time also included the negative side about Japanese colonial time. For example, the repression of Japanese police and discrimination to Taiwanese people. From what I learned, Taiwanese mostly had to study in different elementary school with Japanese, and could not learn laws and politics as their major. Also in WW2, some of the Taiwanese were forced to join the army, and also comfort women issues. Besides, some major brutal conflicts like Musha Incident were also put in the textbook, including the use of inhumane weapons like poison gas by Japanese army. As well, the positive sides are put in the text book. For example, the built of fundamental infrastructures like rails, power plants, and agricultural water system. The mandatory education system and health system are also improved during the period. In my opinion, both positive and negative sides were presented, like 50/50. As my younger brother is studying high school now, from what I see in his history textbook, I think nowadays Taiwanese historical class put more emphasis on the different perspectives of presenting history. For example, the textbook may present different pictures about a same historical incident, and ask students to think about what different perspectives the photo takers might have. But overall, it's a great video briefly presenting the change of Taiwan history education in different periods. Thank you!
Education of course!!!! How didn't I thought of that. 1997, seems like yesterday to me I was 27 seven a that time, it's also the year that Hong Kong was hand over . Thank you for this interesting video.
7:45 認識台灣 was rolled out in 1997, before DPP got power in 2000. In fact, DPP abandoned unified textbooks (部編版 → 一綱多本). Brutality in Japanese rule is well introduced, not down played in Taiwanese education, including 霧社事件, it’s quite fair IMHO.
Your videos are great and you elaborate on subjects glossed over by many books. I've wondered about how the KMT historical narrative declined for awhile and just assumed greater democratization gradually dismantled the former narrative (even though there are still deeply blue individuals), but obviously education would play a major role.
KMT lost their culture war in the 90s, nowadays even KMT politicians present themselves as Taiwanese first and Chinese second which would be inimaginable during KMT dictatorship
At 2:51 as you describe the 1997 textbooks while showing a still image that appears to be a book cover with the title in two or more languages. The English title seems to get equal emphasis as the Chinese. Surprises me.
It is important to know how KMT education has changed to Taiwanese identity. In the mainland we have a view of holistic China, all of China to redeem humiliation. But I see now even if China democratize, Taiwan would still view itself as separate. Democracy was used as a platform to mold a separate identity to aid independence politics. I may disagree as a mainlander but it's good know
Hm, I don't think I would come to the same conclusion as yourself. The internal dynamics of millions of people are always more complicated than they first seem. Personally I think if China were to democratize, all bets are off.
I think 認識台湾 is the real Taiwan history book. Original Taiwanese are the islanders. Chinese are the settlers. The KMT taught Taiwanese people Chinese history.
@@charlesmadre5568 HAK-ka - emphasis on "hak", not "ka" - and that's the pronunciation of the international word for Mandarin "kejia" (emphasis on the first syllable as well).
As a China major who focuses on Chinese propaganda. I am so happy to hear you say. "Taiwan was returned to the Republic of China" after WWII. It hurts my heart that so many million people believes that the PRC has a legitimate claim over the state of Taiwan.
@@yume6532 who claims that? Taiwan has stopped that zero-sum political game in 1990s. :-) De jure sovereignty of Taiwan is undetermined since Japan has never handed over sovereignty of Taiwan to anybody. While de facto sovereignty of Taiwan is Taiwan that have that. Where did China come into the picture? The PRC claims to be the new China, but they keep insisting on the old territories, they use the imperial GaoKao system, political promotion system, the imperial Hukou system, the imperial taxing of the provinces systems, (at least Xi Jinping does) If sounds like an imperial China, if it has claims like an imperial China, if they have a single leader that acts like he was in the imperial China. Then it might very well be that China is barely different from the imperial China.
@@yume6532 hahaha. Sure man. :-) you mean the former dictator of the island, that kept on pushing for that Zero-sum game? When was the last time that you heard Taiwan claiming to be part of the one-china as described by Beijing, or claiming the right of all of China? Try with before Chen Shui-bian. ;-) But that you claim that there is a mutual agreement about the one-china is simply not true xD As I wrote, I am a major in China, and I. Writing my thesis about this question. According to Xi Jinping, then the one-china is built on the 1992 consensus. The narrative of the meaning of the 1992 consensus from Beijing officially has not changed for 30 years. For Taiwan it has officially changed with each new leader. A recent survey of the Taiwanese people of what the 1992 consensus means, came to the conclusion that there are no consensus in Taiwan about it. 34% said that One-china, one-taiwan.33% said that Taiwan is China and China is China, but that they are two different Chinas, like North and South Korea are 2 different Korea. 4% said that it means that Taiwan is a part of China. 11% did not have an opinion. I can not remember the last description of the it. Sorry about that. So in Taiwanese terms there are no consensus that is the pivotal understanding that builds to the one-china. According to Tsai ing-wen, then the 1992 consensus is a historical event, that actually happend. (She does not accept it's meaning) Things in terms of Taiwan is not so easy my friend.
“I do solemnly and sincerely swear before the people of the whole country that I will observe the Constitution, faithfully perform my duties, ..." - Tsai Ing-wen The Constitution of the Republic of China not only claims Taiwan province but also claims the whole territory of the mainland： Article 26 The National Assembly shall be composed of the following delegates: One delegate shall be elected from each hsien, municipality, or area of equivalent status. In case its population exceeds 500,000, one additional delegate shall be elected for each additional 500,000. Areas equivalent to hsien or municipalities shall be prescribed by law; Delegates to represent Mongolia shall be elected on the basis of four for each league and one for each Special banner; The number of delegates to be elected from Tibet shall be prescribed by law; The number of delegates to be elected by various racial groups in frontier regions shall be prescribed by law; The number of delegates to be elected by Chinese citizens residing abroad shall be prescribed by law; The number of delegates to be elected by occupational groups shall be prescribed by law; The number of delegates to be elected by women's organizations shall be prescribed by law. See? The Constitution of the Republic of China claims every province of China, including Mongolia and Tibet. Constitution of the Republic of China (1947)
It's also not bad from Taiwan to slowly get rid of toxic aspects of XXth Century China: such as "the chinese nation", the "5000 years of history", the "revolutionaries", the fake history and territorial claims (such as Taiwan), etc. As someone ethnically Chinese living in Taiwan I am happy that I don't have to view "thousands of years towards the past" through the eyes of a bunch of backwards XXth century chinese men, or likewise have my "role in the future of my ethnicity" decided by them. I never chose them or agreed to be trapped on their made up ideas. Why are we setting the perspective of how to understand the past and the future of Asia on KMT and CCP? They are the first ones to move out of China/Taiwan when they make money.
As a 26 years old Taiwanese, the history I learned at school time also included the negative side about Japanese colonial time. For example, the repression of Japanese police and discrimination to Taiwanese people. From what I learned, Taiwanese mostly had to study in different elementary school with Japanese, and could not learn laws and politics as their major. Also in WW2, some of the Taiwanese were forced to join the army, and also comfort women issues. Besides, some major brutal conflicts like Musha Incident were also put in the textbook, including the use of inhumane weapons like poison gas by Japanese army.
As well, the positive sides are put in the text book. For example, the built of fundamental infrastructures like rails, power plants, and agricultural water system. The mandatory education system and health system are also improved during the period. In my opinion, both positive and negative sides were presented, like 50/50.
As my younger brother is studying high school now, from what I see in his history textbook, I think nowadays Taiwanese historical class put more emphasis on the different perspectives of presenting history. For example, the textbook may present different pictures about a same historical incident, and ask students to think about what different perspectives the photo takers might have.
But overall, it's a great video briefly presenting the change of Taiwan history education in different periods. Thank you!
Education of course!!!! How didn't I thought of that. 1997, seems like yesterday to me I was 27 seven a that time, it's also the year that Hong Kong was hand over . Thank you for this interesting video.
7:45 認識台灣 was rolled out in 1997, before DPP got power in 2000. In fact, DPP abandoned unified textbooks (部編版 → 一綱多本).
Brutality in Japanese rule is well introduced, not down played in Taiwanese education, including 霧社事件, it’s quite fair IMHO.
Your videos are great and you elaborate on subjects glossed over by many books. I've wondered about how the KMT historical narrative declined for awhile and just assumed greater democratization gradually dismantled the former narrative (even though there are still deeply blue individuals), but obviously education would play a major role.
KMT lost their culture war in the 90s, nowadays even KMT politicians present themselves as Taiwanese first and Chinese second which would be inimaginable during KMT dictatorship
At 2:51 as you describe the 1997 textbooks while showing a still image that appears to be a book cover with the title in two or more languages. The English title seems to get equal emphasis as the Chinese. Surprises me.
No, the chinese title is way bigger
Thanks, I love your videos.
Great video. Another great job.
It is important to know how KMT education has changed to Taiwanese identity. In the mainland we have a view of holistic China, all of China to redeem humiliation. But I see now even if China democratize, Taiwan would still view itself as separate. Democracy was used as a platform to mold a separate identity to aid independence politics. I may disagree as a mainlander but it's good know
Hm, I don't think I would come to the same conclusion as yourself. The internal dynamics of millions of people are always more complicated than they first seem. Personally I think if China were to democratize, all bets are off.
When you say all bets are off , can you clarify as to what you mean?
@@yellowantonio-nado7761 He wanted to say that if China were to democratize, nobody knows what the outcome would be.
I think 認識台湾 is the real Taiwan history book. Original Taiwanese are the islanders. Chinese are the settlers. The KMT taught Taiwanese people Chinese history.
I recommend 台灣人四百年史 by Su Beng. It is great history book on Taiwan.
As always, a great informative video.
but what is the cat's name?
He's the REAL king of Taiwan.
@@taiwanluthiers but the cat's name?
First!! very interesting work, shows no country whatever political system is immune to nationalism!
Another good one. Minor flaws: 1) 'Hakka ('kejia); 2) (7:10) ZhEjiang (province)
What's wrong with Hakka?
@@charlesmadre5568 Note the emphasis.
@@YingTou1 maybe that's the pronunciation in 客家話? I don't know I don't speak it.
@@charlesmadre5568 HAK-ka - emphasis on "hak", not "ka" - and that's the pronunciation of the international word for Mandarin "kejia" (emphasis on the first syllable as well).
@@YingTou1 I see, that's interesting.
"I will take pleasure ... extreme pleasure ... in banning you." That's a good threat. I am going to use it from now on.
Mandate of Heaven falls to Taiwan to rule mainland.
In your wet dreams, ////
Another great vid... but DAAAAAAMN!!! Talk about playing with dynamite.
RoC occupation of Taiwan will end one day
As a China major who focuses on Chinese propaganda. I am so happy to hear you say.
"Taiwan was returned to the Republic of China" after WWII.
It hurts my heart that so many million people believes that the PRC has a legitimate claim over the state of Taiwan.
There is one China, and Taiwan is part of China.
@@yume6532 who claims that? Taiwan has stopped that zero-sum political game in 1990s. :-)
De jure sovereignty of Taiwan is undetermined since Japan has never handed over sovereignty of Taiwan to anybody.
While de facto sovereignty of Taiwan is Taiwan that have that.
Where did China come into the picture? The PRC claims to be the new China, but they keep insisting on the old territories, they use the imperial GaoKao system, political promotion system, the imperial Hukou system, the imperial taxing of the provinces systems, (at least Xi Jinping does)
If sounds like an imperial China, if it has claims like an imperial China, if they have a single leader that acts like he was in the imperial China. Then it might very well be that China is barely different from the imperial China.
@@taiwanisacountry Stopped? They never stopped, One China Policy was agreed on by both sides.
@@yume6532 hahaha. Sure man. :-) you mean the former dictator of the island, that kept on pushing for that Zero-sum game?
When was the last time that you heard Taiwan claiming to be part of the one-china as described by Beijing, or claiming the right of all of China? Try with before Chen Shui-bian. ;-)
But that you claim that there is a mutual agreement about the one-china is simply not true xD
As I wrote, I am a major in China, and I. Writing my thesis about this question.
According to Xi Jinping, then the one-china is built on the 1992 consensus.
The narrative of the meaning of the 1992 consensus from Beijing officially has not changed for 30 years.
For Taiwan it has officially changed with each new leader. A recent survey of the Taiwanese people of what the 1992 consensus means, came to the conclusion that there are no consensus in Taiwan about it.
34% said that One-china, one-taiwan.33% said that Taiwan is China and China is China, but that they are two different Chinas, like North and South Korea are 2 different Korea.
4% said that it means that Taiwan is a part of China. 11% did not have an opinion.
I can not remember the last description of the it. Sorry about that.
So in Taiwanese terms there are no consensus that is the pivotal understanding that builds to the one-china.
According to Tsai ing-wen, then the 1992 consensus is a historical event, that actually happend. (She does not accept it's meaning)
Things in terms of Taiwan is not so easy my friend.
“I do solemnly and sincerely swear before the people of the whole country that I will observe the Constitution, faithfully perform my duties, ..." - Tsai Ing-wen
The Constitution of the Republic of China not only claims Taiwan province but also claims the whole territory of the mainland：
Article 26
The National Assembly shall be composed of the following delegates:
One delegate shall be elected from each hsien, municipality, or area of equivalent status. In case its population exceeds 500,000, one additional delegate shall be elected for each additional 500,000. Areas equivalent to hsien or municipalities shall be prescribed by law;
Delegates to represent Mongolia shall be elected on the basis of four for each league and one for each Special banner;
The number of delegates to be elected from Tibet shall be prescribed by law;
The number of delegates to be elected by various racial groups in frontier regions shall be prescribed by law;
The number of delegates to be elected by Chinese citizens residing abroad shall be prescribed by law;
The number of delegates to be elected by occupational groups shall be prescribed by law;
The number of delegates to be elected by women's organizations shall be prescribed by law.
See? The Constitution of the Republic of China claims every province of China, including Mongolia and Tibet.
Constitution of the Republic of China (1947)
It's also not bad from Taiwan to slowly get rid of toxic aspects of XXth Century China: such as "the chinese nation", the "5000 years of history", the "revolutionaries", the fake history and territorial claims (such as Taiwan), etc. As someone ethnically Chinese living in Taiwan I am happy that I don't have to view "thousands of years towards the past" through the eyes of a bunch of backwards XXth century chinese men, or likewise have my "role in the future of my ethnicity" decided by them. I never chose them or agreed to be trapped on their made up ideas. Why are we setting the perspective of how to understand the past and the future of Asia on KMT and CCP? They are the first ones to move out of China/Taiwan when they make money.