Lucky the federation abandoned money, I bet volleys of torpedoes like that would cost megabucks! The Ferengi would be crying Latinum tears at all that money flying away! Unless of course they had the restocking contract!
Star Trek ships/stations have a far greater effective range than those in Star Wars. the super star destroyer did shoot a few shots at the very end once it got close enough
@@aquariandawn4750 while that would be absolutely amazing to see DS9 firing off a salvo of tricobalt. Tricobalt devices in a high enough yield can cause subspace to rupture.
@@jamesnelson5741 ohhhhh, pffft, that's just some environmentalist propaganda sponsored by the Romulans to destabilize the superiority of the Federation.
Forget equipping DS9 with Quantums, Starfleet needs to considering arming Spacedock with Quantums. Considering how long it stood up to that fleet in the Picard Series Finale, if it had weapons, it never would've been defeated.
It did have weapons. It has heavy phasers, whatever the 2401 equivlent of Type XI Emplacements are, and many torpedo launchers. If you watch closely during the scenes when the fleet is firing on Space Dock, you'll see quite a bit return fire. It destroyed about 20% of the attacking fleet. It might have done more damage if it were not actively the scene of multiple small unit actions as the assimilated garrison members were being fought. And installations like that are never meant to fight alone, but in concert with a garrison fleet. I do find it odd, however, that the starbase, and Earth, was not ringed with Orbital Weapons Platforms. If the Cardassians could deploy hundreds of OWPs around relatively unimportant systems on the periphery of their space, Earth, as the capital of the UFP should have more fixed defenses than Starbase 1.
@@JeanLucCaptain The Entire Fleet my arse... "Hey guys, we need to warp for several weeks to Earth to appear in a parade; no, I'm sure none of the aggressive empires on our border will take advantage of that. And you're good dealing with that plague and/or evil supercomputer for a month, right?" They brought the show ponies to prance around- the actual working people/ships were out in space, doing their jobs. I don't care how many times they repeated that BS, I'm not listening to that Federation propaganda.
The quantum torpedoes have been provided at a special price by Quark's Entertainment LLC. Speaking of which, Retro Badger, did you receive our latest invoice for quantum torpedoes?
It did- but not many. Of course, given how close SW Capital ships need to get to actually has their shots matter... Its not surprising. (Sure, Star Trek suffers from this - the "realistic doesn't look at cool" effect, but rarely to the same degree) Seriously, wonder if turbolaser batteries on the back of an SSD could hit a ship at the stern of the SSD.
@@Sephiroth144 well in all fairness im pretty sure that model of executor is not coded very well. From what i remember the last time i used it, its weapons where limited to only firing one shot form all weapons at a time and the firing arcs are rather poor. The thing was actually quite under powered, being weaker than even ISD's (which lore wise its supposed to outgun a 100 to 1.) and that's on top of the fact that the bridge commander AI does not handle such large ships very well.
I never get tired seeing all those quantums😊 And I watched that captain shaw bit twice lol That guy grew on me. Turned out to be one of my favorite new star trek characters 🤘🖖🖖 Have you tried a stargate armada against quantum ds9🤔 i can't remember
I can imagine bajorans seeing moving constellations from bajor, only to realize it was just the Federation wasting their entire economy by using quantum torpedoes.
@@Sephiroth144 And then some torpedoes end up hitting Bajor and the system’s other planets because the torpedo systems malfunction just from the sheer amount of them being fired at once.
@@EngineerST There is always that question of "unexploded ordinance", especially in the vacuum of space where they could literally go on forever; I mean, how messed up would it be if some random photon torpedoes from the Battle of the Boson Rift ended up slamming into some random colony a few millenia after the fact?
Lucky the SSD glitched out otherwise that would have been nasty. 1000 turbolasers firing on a single target. oof. Would like to see this run again where the ssd actually works :)
Aside from the Super Weapons, Star Wars has been on a lower scale from Star Trek (TNG) on a tactical level. Strategically, they did have one or two insane advantage (speed), but once you engage them its rarely fair. (The other possible advantage, depending on which sources you follow, is numbers; but that seems to fluctuation in both sides so...)
Hmmmmmm......If i remember correctly, The Defiant and a squadron of Klingon Birds of Prey, destroyed a Dominion Dreadnought which 5000m long....So it shouldn't be to difficult to wipe the floor with a Super Star destroyer....V'ger and the TOS Ent refit fought.... V'Ger was 98k long × 40 or 50k wide .... making a Super Star Destroyer tiny too....(Re: To bad Star Trek didn't have "TurboLaser batteries" too....😅😂🤪🤪Nyuck! Nyuck!Nyuck!)
The Enterprise Refit didn't destroy V'Ger, nor really had a chance to. And I don't remember the Dominion Dreadnaught being taken down, (perhaps from a novel?); do remember the Valiant thinking it could take it down (with some video game weak point nonsense), and not doing so well.
Star Trek Picard Season 4: Deep Space 9 is protected by an energy Field projected from the nearby Forest Moon of Bajor. The Energy Shield must be deactivated for any attack to be successful 🤣
@@RetroBadgerGaming Actually could you do a Battle of Endor parody with the Dominion protecting the DS-9 or Death Star and Maquis/Federation/rebels attacking 😎
Lord Badger, I have an idea, is there a new Spacedock mod yet? Or, if not, how about DS9 and a dozen or so Cardassian Orbital Weapons Platforms vs. 20 ship or so (assimilated) Federation fleet? It might be a proxy for how things should have gone if Spacedock had unmanned defenses like the OWPs to help carry the load.
There is no new spacedock mod. The current star base crashes the game usually. Like your idea though! The DS9 one is workable. I’ve added it to the list 🖖
I just don't see Star Wars ships being able to hang with the Federation, their ships and weapons look antiquated by comparison. I keep hearing Riker in my head, "One photon torpedo ought to do it". But Star Wars aside, NOTHING would want to be on the other end of that many quantum torpedoes...even the BORG would be like yea, no....
I dont know why people do these comparisons where there is no way to establish a comparative baseline for such contests.It's all based on subjective whim. That being said, from what I understand, the star trek universe ships are far more powerful & better defended than anything in star wars.Could I be wrong?SURE, that's because we don't know what the equivalency is for comparison.
Lucky the federation abandoned money, I bet volleys of torpedoes like that would cost megabucks! The Ferengi would be crying Latinum tears at all that money flying away! Unless of course they had the restocking contract!
These kinds of moments make me wish they'd redo all the fleet battle scenes in DS9.
likewise.
Anyone else hear Capt. Sisko laughing maniacally, or is that just me? :P
i mean, i don't think sisko would laugh, just stare, like it was a chore.
Nah, that's you. Woof, on the other hand...
Do it again, but this time let the star destroyers fire back.
Star Trek ships/stations have a far greater effective range than those in Star Wars. the super star destroyer did shoot a few shots at the very end once it got close enough
I wonder what a DS9 would be like with Transphasic Torpedos.
Over powered 😂😂
Tri cobalt devices
@@aquariandawn4750 while that would be absolutely amazing to see DS9 firing off a salvo of tricobalt. Tricobalt devices in a high enough yield can cause subspace to rupture.
Considering DS9 was already OP before the mod with quantum torpedoes...
@@jamesnelson5741 ohhhhh, pffft, that's just some environmentalist propaganda sponsored by the Romulans to destabilize the superiority of the Federation.
Ever thought about doing DS9 vs Ancient City Ship?
Forget equipping DS9 with Quantums, Starfleet needs to considering arming Spacedock with Quantums. Considering how long it stood up to that fleet in the Picard Series Finale, if it had weapons, it never would've been defeated.
Considering how much Plot Armor Earth had it's amazing the Borg didn't spontaneously combust
It did have weapons. It has heavy phasers, whatever the 2401 equivlent of Type XI Emplacements are, and many torpedo launchers. If you watch closely during the scenes when the fleet is firing on Space Dock, you'll see quite a bit return fire. It destroyed about 20% of the attacking fleet. It might have done more damage if it were not actively the scene of multiple small unit actions as the assimilated garrison members were being fought. And installations like that are never meant to fight alone, but in concert with a garrison fleet. I do find it odd, however, that the starbase, and Earth, was not ringed with Orbital Weapons Platforms. If the Cardassians could deploy hundreds of OWPs around relatively unimportant systems on the periphery of their space, Earth, as the capital of the UFP should have more fixed defenses than Starbase 1.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 ya but that would require the mind of logic that doesn't have THE ENTIRE FLEET OF THE FEDERATION at Fleet Day🤣
@@JeanLucCaptain The Entire Fleet my arse... "Hey guys, we need to warp for several weeks to Earth to appear in a parade; no, I'm sure none of the aggressive empires on our border will take advantage of that. And you're good dealing with that plague and/or evil supercomputer for a month, right?" They brought the show ponies to prance around- the actual working people/ships were out in space, doing their jobs.
I don't care how many times they repeated that BS, I'm not listening to that Federation propaganda.
@@JeanLucCaptain Still not as stupidly arrogant as the Earth Federation Space Force naval review in Mobile Suit Gundam: Stardust Memory
The quantum torpedoes have been provided at a special price by Quark's Entertainment LLC. Speaking of which, Retro Badger, did you receive our latest invoice for quantum torpedoes?
Indeed! Although Quark’s finders fee was so high, I’ll have to sell the entire fleet to pay for those 🥺
The Executer looks like a cluster of skyscrapers assembled into the likeness of a space ship.
just blame Palpatine for that clusterfuck of a Flagship and everything is fine.
Did the Super Star Destroyer even fire a single shot? Not much of a challenge if you dont get shot at.
It did- but not many.
Of course, given how close SW Capital ships need to get to actually has their shots matter... Its not surprising. (Sure, Star Trek suffers from this - the "realistic doesn't look at cool" effect, but rarely to the same degree)
Seriously, wonder if turbolaser batteries on the back of an SSD could hit a ship at the stern of the SSD.
@@Sephiroth144 well in all fairness im pretty sure that model of executor is not coded very well. From what i remember the last time i used it, its weapons where limited to only firing one shot form all weapons at a time and the firing arcs are rather poor. The thing was actually quite under powered, being weaker than even ISD's (which lore wise its supposed to outgun a 100 to 1.) and that's on top of the fact that the bridge commander AI does not handle such large ships very well.
One shot from the Death Star and it's over
And then come the Borg and they assimilate the entire Empire
I never get tired seeing all those quantums😊
And I watched that captain shaw bit twice lol
That guy grew on me.
Turned out to be one of my favorite new star trek characters 🤘🖖🖖
Have you tried a stargate armada against quantum ds9🤔 i can't remember
Coming soon!! Shaw is impressive. Everything he did was for his crew and he saved the TNG crew 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming hundred percent 🖖🖖
You missed your chance to fire quantums at the bridge of the Super ISD
That would have done Darth Vader in.
Be cool to see ds9 go up against the imperial fleet of endor
I can imagine bajorans seeing moving constellations from bajor, only to realize it was just the Federation wasting their entire economy by using quantum torpedoes.
😂😂
Can you imagine the calls from the Bajor government: WTF are you doing so close to the Prophet's Temple?!?
@@Sephiroth144 And then some torpedoes end up hitting Bajor and the system’s other planets because the torpedo systems malfunction just from the sheer amount of them being fired at once.
@@EngineerST There is always that question of "unexploded ordinance", especially in the vacuum of space where they could literally go on forever; I mean, how messed up would it be if some random photon torpedoes from the Battle of the Boson Rift ended up slamming into some random colony a few millenia after the fact?
Something fucky with the health bars on those Star Wars ships, there's no way those fighters could tank 1 Quantum Torpedo let alone like 10.
This seems like it’s the most realistic battle between ST & SW.
That was a really really amazing battle
1:30 I'd probably be in trouble too if I just took 148 quantum torpedoes to the face.
From my memory. Most tie fighters aren't even shielded, so the phasers should blow right through them
Lucky the SSD glitched out otherwise that would have been nasty. 1000 turbolasers firing on a single target. oof. Would like to see this run again where the ssd actually works :)
That SSD never stood a chance. Its analog shields were never a match for Quantum Torpedoes! Never! Pour out your kanar for the dead Imps!
Omg genious idea ancient city ship vs ds9
Aside from the Super Weapons, Star Wars has been on a lower scale from Star Trek (TNG) on a tactical level. Strategically, they did have one or two insane advantage (speed), but once you engage them its rarely fair. (The other possible advantage, depending on which sources you follow, is numbers; but that seems to fluctuation in both sides so...)
"The Ultimate power in the Universe", what about DS9 vs the Death Star?
Hmmmmmm......If i remember correctly, The Defiant and a squadron of Klingon Birds of Prey, destroyed a Dominion Dreadnought which 5000m long....So it shouldn't be to difficult to wipe the floor with a Super Star destroyer....V'ger and the TOS Ent refit fought.... V'Ger was 98k long × 40 or 50k wide .... making a Super Star Destroyer tiny too....(Re: To bad Star Trek didn't have "TurboLaser batteries" too....😅😂🤪🤪Nyuck! Nyuck!Nyuck!)
The Enterprise Refit didn't destroy V'Ger, nor really had a chance to. And I don't remember the Dominion Dreadnaught being taken down, (perhaps from a novel?); do remember the Valiant thinking it could take it down (with some video game weak point nonsense), and not doing so well.
Were those tie fighters piloted by klingons. To qoute worf prepare for ramming speed.
Superman, Goku, One Punch Man, and Rey Palpatine-Skywalker all walk into Quark’s bar… because none of them are a match for DS9.
I will admit that was pretty awesome lol.
Guess Vader had to bail from the Executor?
Quantum torpedoes , gotta love em .
Star Trek Picard Season 4:
Deep Space 9 is protected by an energy Field projected from the nearby Forest Moon of Bajor. The Energy Shield must be deactivated for any attack to be successful 🤣
😂😂
@@RetroBadgerGaming Actually could you do a Battle of Endor parody with the Dominion protecting the DS-9 or Death Star and Maquis/Federation/rebels attacking 😎
Did the Super star destroyer even fire anything?
Lord Badger, I have an idea, is there a new Spacedock mod yet? Or, if not, how about DS9 and a dozen or so Cardassian Orbital Weapons Platforms vs. 20 ship or so (assimilated) Federation fleet? It might be a proxy for how things should have gone if Spacedock had unmanned defenses like the OWPs to help carry the load.
There is no new spacedock mod. The current star base crashes the game usually. Like your idea though! The DS9 one is workable. I’ve added it to the list 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming Thanks!
What is meant by "RBG" version?
RBG= Retro Badger Gaming. I took an old DS9 mod, added Quantums and increased the shield power.
😍😍😍
WOW
The SSD should have crashed into DS9, as those ships have history of crashing into space stations....
I just don't see Star Wars ships being able to hang with the Federation, their ships and weapons look antiquated by comparison. I keep hearing Riker in my head, "One photon torpedo ought to do it". But Star Wars aside, NOTHING would want to be on the other end of that many quantum torpedoes...even the BORG would be like yea, no....
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THEY FIGHT LIKE KLINGON'S
It will be gllloooorrriooouuuusss
All as it should be.
Oh my.... Maybe Star Trek DS9 should have had "TurboLaser batteries" instead...Oh my !
(Yuck! Yuck! Yuck!)
The Star Destroyers weren't shooting back, and that quantum barrage was unending. Bit easy !
Agree, it looks " glorious"!
Tell darth vader ds9 is the ultimate pwer in the iniverse and he will force choke ya
The prophets would just disappear him!
C'mon man, we don't kink shame here.
I dont know why people do these comparisons where there is no way to establish a comparative baseline for such contests.It's all based on subjective whim.
That being said, from what I understand, the star trek universe ships are far more powerful & better defended than anything in star wars.Could I be wrong?SURE, that's because we don't know what the equivalency is for comparison.
Star Wars weapons are useless Laser's weak torpedoes.
as much as i would like to argue, some of the portrayals, especially from Disney Star wars and Star Wars Rebels are pretty damn bad.
trek ships and weapons are far superior to sw. lasers are a joke in the tng era.