If the pink palace was made in 1852, than she would have had a husband at the time, or a family. Notice the painting of the blue boy in the earlier parts of the movie, and how he looked sad. The cat, also has bright blue eyes, however he doesn't talk like a little boy, rather an old British man. The "Beldam" meaning witch, moved into the palace with her family, and used her son for witch craft. The husband found his wife sacrificing their child by the well, and pushed her down it to save his son. Unfortunately the son died anyway, and he jumped down the well as a suicide attempt but instead was trapped with the beldam in a portal she opened as a result of a half finished satanic offering. The husband convinced her he did it because he regretted trying to kill her, and she sparred him, turning him into a cat using what soul sand she DID he managed to retrieve from her son. The cat carefully watched the beldam as she created the world, and made use of the holes in her reality in order to escape. When the beldam was finally killed at the end of the movie the blue boy in the painting looks happy, as if his soul had been avenged by Coraline.
Another things to help the theory that the portal is at the bottom, is that when she throws the doll you see stars outside the window. And wybie told coraline in the beginning, "Its supposed to be so deep, you'd see a sky full of stars in the middle of the day."
at the beginning of the movie coraline drops some mud down the well to see how far down it was. the next time she went to the other world the beldam gives her mud to help with poison oak. this supports the theory that there is a portal at the bottom of the well. EDIT: wow maybe I should start a theory channel 😂😏
Charley Eldergill I'm not sure but, i do know that the the beldam can't make mud out of nothing. In the other world there is nothing. The mice scavenge for things and give her them so she can use her magic to create objects. So maybe she used the mud that coraline dropped down the well. I'm not 100% sure
I genuinely think the beldam wants to be loved by the children because not only does she need there essence lol but because she also has a motherly instinct. Maybe in the past she wasn't able to have kids and uses this to her advantage to gain the children's love. Because honestly she doesn't need their love, she could basically kill them when they arrive there. You also notice how much it offended or hurt her when coralline told her during the climax that she wasn't her mother, and when she told her to take it back she didn't, so she went into her ugly which form, because she knew she had "lost" coralline.
JV N but what about after she takes the eyes from them, she obviously knows theyre still there tbh i wouldnt be suprised if she took the souls there herself to trap them
To add on to this because she couldn't have children she got depressed and attempted to kill herself by jumping down the well and accidentally ended up in the other world
JV N it is not because ot that. it is because she murdered her mother which was the only one she had, and that led on to the mice seeing the children, knowing that they would fall into the hands of a better, most loving mother and that would replace the love she had lost for her mother. but then when they sewed their eyes she had fun with them. like their mother. and she also might have sent the mice for men that are single so she could merry annd have a happy life with children but never got that so when the mice saw the children, she could make a copy of the dad and make herself the mom, and when they sew the eyes they become blind so the beldam would turn to her original self so she doesnt perminatly become the other mother of that child for forever.
JV N i was thinking the same thing in the sense that since she is spider-like she was a "widow" who couldn't conceive so maybe her partner left her so she lures children to her to fufill her wish to be a mother but eventually realizes they will never be her own, remembers her incapability and her partner leaving her so she kills them
I think as you said that the beldam created the little door but she made one key for herself (from the objects that the mice brought her) ,so she could unlock the door and lure children in and then lock the door, but as the cat escaped he stole the key so she couldn't open/lock the door and steal other childrens souls plz like so he sees this
I kind of disagree. I think the reason there exists only one key is because it was the only thing that Beldam could replicate conceptually, as The Theorizer put about her learning.
Wait then in the end when she ties the key with the blanket and the broken hand, they throw it down the hole Doesn't that mean she just threw the key back into the other world??? Really I want coraline 2 to come out NOW.
Mamuna Hafeez A 2nd one would be great. Beldamn was trapped and already weak. Beldam isn't able enter the real world as she her powers are useless up in other dimension. Regardless I really want a sequel.
Rocket science is actually very easy. In about a week, I have a 25 minute long video coming out where I calculate the best jetpack in Jetpack Joyride, using complex rocket science for 25 minutes straight. Coraline is indeed much more difficult.
Uhm why is nobody talking about how Miriam and the other lady that lives in the basement knew about the triangle to help. Or the candy? The tea? Or how mr Bobinsky knows about the belldam?
They are ALL the beldam's puppets (after the first time she leaves the real world). When she first returns to the real world (when she wakes up) she doesn't actually, the beldam tricks her. Then on after all the other people are puppets (whether with button eyes or not) doing their part to trick coraline into finally believing she is back home and loves her parents (the end of the film). Yeah, she never returns home for real, it is all a scheme to get coraline thinking she is back home and loving life because the beldam feeds off LOVE (somehow). PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG
Haggisbishop Aha I love how you want us to prove you wrong. Well I don’t think that’s true since it doesn’t make sense as to why the beldams hand Tried to get the key again?
Moonlight TH-cam Because children have mysteriously gone missing. And Wybie's grandmother lost her sister to Beldam when they were little. She luckily escaped. The candy and the tea were just measures to protect against the supernatural
First of all, Mr. Robinsky didn’t know about the Beldam, he only said the mice told him things. The candy is some taffy they had that was very old and they believed it was protection against really anything! And the tea could be just random! Maybe they do that to everyone that comes over.
The Theorizer, The doll was not there when coralline went shopping. But keep in mind the beldam still has mice running around doing things for her. If she does that means the Mice could've followed Coraline, seen she wanted gloves, and alarmed the beldam about it. Also when she's at home I have the same theory for that.
i assumed it was buttons on clothes at first but then i realized she could probably only see through buttons that she has sewn onto things or buttons that have been in her world
Ahhh, so at the end of the Coraline movie she drops the key in the well right? Doesnt that mean she's just dropping it back INTO THE OTHER WORLD AGAIN!??
Even if it is in the other world the Beldam has no use for it. She can't leave the other world or she'll die. And after Coraline escaped her she died anyway because she lost her last chance at getting more souls. She was deteriorating and was at her last line of life.
True, but the Beldam's world was destroyed along with the Beldam. So even if a key falls down, it's basically in a void. The ending of this movie is still fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure the robotic hand falls down the well, too. But because the world is no longer existent, doesn't that mean whatever was a part of the world disappears, too? I don't know, I'm just musing.
She didn’t get the key until AFTER she got home and looked in the refrigerator. She got the key when she decided to see if the other world was real or not which was after all that happened
Marcus Munn that makes sense. The cat brought coraline the doll. The cat is a friend of whybe. The cat stopped Caroline from getting rid of the key, except when she threw it down the well (another portal) he brought her the doll so that the other mother could spy on her instead of whybe, therefore taking her instead.
have you ever seen the movie? whyborn gives many messages to coraline explaining how the grandmother doesn't want whyborn around the house or her. showing how everytime whybe is out of her house, she calls him to come back. Also then how would whyborn know that his grandmas sister was taken if she didn't know the story as well. Even putting in a part where the grandma doesn't want a family with a child moving in also how she tells whyborn that she doesn't want him in the house
The triangle thingy you were talking about is actually a Hag stone, also known as Holey stone or Witch stone. They are stones that have naturally occurring holes and are usually found near oceans and other bodies of water. They are said to be powerful protection talisman, and when worn or carried they protect the bearer from curses, hexes, negative spirits, and harm. They have also been used to prevent nightmares, being strung on a bedpost or placed underneath pillows. It is also believed that if you peer through the hole of the stone that you can see fae folk and otherworldly entities. If one broke, it is thought to have used its power to protect a life.
HOLY COW. It's like the song is by beldam! She made the song! "When she goes around exploring, know that i wil never ever make it boring ALL EYES WILL BE ON CORALINE"!!! She makes sure the 3 wonders aren't boring to lure Coraline in!! Oml you are so smart!
I did some thinking about the cat too, but it has a dark plot twist. (Please keep in mind I haven't thought out the entire background and I haven't read the book.) But what if the cat was evil? What if the cat is the other mother's spy? When Coraline was going to leave her room to destroy the key, he tries to stop her. He may seem to 'help' Coraline, but I feel like he outsmarted the other mother and knew she wouldn't win; so he knew he had to befriend Coraline. I think the cat is the other mother's last resort to protect the key. (The throwing the cat onto the other mother was still unintentional and unplanned.) He also befriended Wybee so he'd have a place to stay in the normal world and he kept an eye out for Wybee's grandmother and her possible plans for the Pink Palace's future. If it were to follow your theory about the well being another portal, then wouldn't the other mother have won because Coraline sent the key down the well? The cat says he comes and goes as he pleases and at the end of the movie, and he seems to leave through a portal back into the dream land with the other mother (his real home). But what refutes this idea is that there would really be no need for the doll. Maybe better spy coverage for the child as the child is in the house alone, like a bedroom? I hope you respond and please give me your feedback. +The Theorizer
+bluegill44neo That's pretty good! I've seen a few similar evil cat theories now, but yours actually gave some pretty good evidence! I'm considering it, but still believe that the cats intentions are good. I will look more into it and maybe even alter my final decision!
Oh I was also curious about when the other mother said that "everyone has an other mother", does that mean there is an other Coraline too? It may not seem like anything but the other mother sounded so sure when she said it. Or when she is an adult an other Coraline would form? Idk, that would also mean that the other world is a dimension or another universe.
I just notice that each button has 4 holes, which in total would make 8 holes. It kind of resembles like the 8 eyes of a spider which ties in to her overall spider like appearance/ qualities and all
Dude c'mon, the theories like the video are good and interesring but when you overthink even the number of buttons, it ruins it, doesnt even make sense.
Alejandro Mavarez dude it’s a Theories channel that’s the whole point and the creator obviously likes looking at comments and different peoples view points even if they may not be supported by evidence it’s the magic of the channel and the community he’s created
Adrianna Askaloyd the button eye father and wybie are good people especially the other father if you listen to the lyric of the song its a word of warning listen to it
Maybe Coraline dreams/lucid dreams about the other world. Also at 13:34 the bottom thing says that if a dragon fly appears in your dreams it may indicate that something in your life may not be as it seems. She wears the dragon fly in her hair and also in her other bedroom dragon flies fly around. I believe she isn’t happy with her life so she made up a new one in her lucid dream. Also lucid dreams can become bad if you accidentally think of something bad. When she finds the door and her Mother unlocks it it is locked. So maybe, she was wondering what it would be like on the other side and if there would be better life than hers, so later that night she dreamt about it. I dunno it’s just a theory baha.
Tana Lottle That theory doesn't correlate with the fact that Wybie's grandma knows about Beldam and doesn't want children going to the Pink Palace. She couldn't have lucid dreamed that. Her sister also goes missing because of Beldam.
Tana Lottle I'm sure that “what isn't what it seems” is a warning about Beldam. She's missing the joy and satisfaction in her real life so she finds it elsewhere... but that is deceiving.
I have a theory as to what the doll does. Have you ever heard of a Japanese game where you take a doll/stuffed toy, you fill it with rice and then you sew it with red thread? In the beginning of the movie, that's what the Beldam does. Only she uses the soul sand. In the Japanese game, the doll comes alive and will wander around, and that's what got me. What if the doll followed Coraline in secret, and then saw what she wanted? Also, in the first parts of the movie, the Beldam gets the hint that Coraline hates the food her parents cook. She could have given her more yummy food since it's what she likes. Also, in the game there are rules, such as you must hide and not let the doll find you or else something bad will happen. You also cannot leave the house. Her parents did that, and so what if when they did, it caused a doll to see this and they were lured to someplace the Beldam could access (I.e. The Well) and they ended up trapped by her?
the following thing would make sense because in the beginning of the movie when coraline is counting the windows the doll disappeared & ended up next to the door.
for me it was mostly the idea of it. because when I first watched it I was really little and was very attached to my mom. It fucked me up badly when she took her parents away and the whole movie gave me a sense of loneliness and isolation
Lol how old were you? Its not that scary! My mom made me watch the Shining when I was 11. My cousin made me watch IT when I was 10. That's something you should be scared of. Not the Beldam 😂😂
Platinum Goldie the other father (I assume this is who you are referring to in the comment) is most likely also filled with the "soul sand" that is used in Coraline's doll. If he was filled with this sand - as the video states - he would know the same truths and fates as the previously taken children. This would make him have instincts to help Coraline, just like the children do when Coraline is stuck inside the mirror room
Revive Me I don't think that is a relevant point, if she is talking about the other world dad, he was created by beldam and is controlled by her, bedlam also poses as the mother
the beldame can see through buttons, therefore when a kid picks up the key she is aware of it and has time to prepare for their arrival and also know when to get the mice to lead the children to the portal. That's my key theory lol
The cat in Coraline kinda reminds me of the cat in Alice in Wonderland not just cus they’re both cats but bc they both seem to be less important supporting characters that secretly have a lot of knowledge about the worlds but have mysterious backgrounds
Honestly I think the cat was a pretty important character since it knows so much hinting that it survived the beldam or is something else and I think they did it on purpose to let people think Or I’m just trying too hard to look smart😂
My theory on the Key: We know that the Beldam fell down the well to get to the other world, not through the door. So, as you said in the video, she created the door in the study to make an easier passage-way to the other world. This means she made the door so therefore made the key, which is why there is a button on it. As for the fact that there's only one key, I believe it's for the Beldam to give her next victim a sense of trust and a sense of freedom as she is entrusting the child with the only key allows the child to ocme and go whenever they want to, which is all part of her plan to make the child trust her to the point where she can easily take the child's soul.
I know this video is old, but I have a few thoughts on it that you might consider for your future theories: a) Witches who feed off on children (souls, blood, flesh) are a common topic in folklore, have you done any research on witch trials in Ashland, Oregon? Perhaps, the Beldam practised witchcraft during her lifetime, and like Agatha in Paranorman was killed by the towns people and her soul casted away and locked, which could explain the door and the fact that there is only one key, and why the Beldam seems to want it so much, not because she wants to escape, but because losing it would mean she would lose the entryway she has control over. The buttons could be explained by maybe her modus operandi while being alive. Eyes are windows to the soul, what if while being alive, the Beldam took children and sewed button into their eyes in order to strip them off their souls? Tales such as that one, I am sure, are common. b) There is an old tale called "The New Mother" from which it is very possible Neil Gaiman got the inspiration for the Other Mother, I suggest you check it out c) Vermin, the cat, I'm not convinced with him being the first victim and escaping and then reviving just to protect Wybie??? Wybie doesn't even play much of an important role in the movie or book. Notice how the cat mentions that he and the Beldam "like to play a game" when questioned by Coraline about how he got there. We are told that the Beldam hates the cat, and even knows his name, if Vermin was indeed her first victim, I don't think he would willingly cross to the Other World, since protecting Wybie did not require him to. He might be just as old as the Beldam, perhaps when the Beldam was locked away in the Other World he was created as a guardian to keep her in it, and to protect the victims and help them escape, hence his interest in Coraline and helping her both escape the Beldam AND keep her in the Other World d) I don't think once Coraline escapes she destroys the Beldam and her magic, once she tosses the key on the well, she sends the key back to her, meaning that while Coraline is safe from her, the kid after her won't. Which explains the shot at the end of the movie, of Vermin disappearing. His job is not done, he still has to keep the Beldam locked and the kids safe. Before she goes out, we see how he tries to stop her from getting rid of the key. Why? He knows that Coraline knows there is a well, maybe he knew she wanted to throw it down there?
So glad to see this comment. I agree with most of your theories. Especially with the key. It is the only way to open or lock the only entrance to the pocket dimension, which isnt just under her control, but also the only really viable way to get the kids to come to her. Kids are naturally curious, and in a tiny, boring town with only 1 other kid to play with or talk to, finding a tiny door that's been wallpapered over would make pretty much any child curious to explore. As for the cat here's my theory. When the beldam was alive and first moved into the house she at least had a child of her own. Being a witch and wanting more power a think she may have sacrificed her own child (which I think others discovered she did this and wanted to hang her. While the mob was after her she may have fallen down the well which transported her into the pocket dimension. Seeing her fall down the well, the mob left believe her to either be dead or will eventually die down there.). I think the cat, belonged to her child. This would explain how they know so much about one another, why they have "a game they like to play" and also why they don't seem to like each other at all. Just my own personal theory though.
Woah Woah Woah! A button is something sewed to fabric. What if the key is a button because it connects the two worlds together? And why the Beldam uses buttons: it connects the souls of the children to her for her life source. If you don't have the key, you can't visit the other world. Plus, when Coraline collects all the buttons, the Beldam's ties to the children are broken...
There is only one key bc you cannot go back up the well, but you can go back through the door. That must mean the key was created by the Beldam so children would be able to enter the pocket universe.
+LPSEverdeen When you said the key is the button that connects the two worlds together, I thought that was genius, and I can't believe that slipped my mind!
+Artseytips I watched this movie with my friend. We had this same argument and she said that the button is just the button on the key, the beldam said that she could see through the mice/rats. So the buttons have a different meaning. My friend won the argument.
Your theory is good but you should read The Sandman: The Doll's House (The adult version of Coraline). Many unanswered questions and secrets are in that book and really ties the two together. As for the Beldam your theory is pretty spot on but allow me to push it further and tie the cat in, in a slightly more believable way. The Beldam is not the leader of the settlers but the wife of the leader of the settlers(historically speaking) and she isn't a good little puritan either instead she practices witchcraft. The cat is her familiar(an animal-shaped spirit or minor demon believed to serve a witch or magician as domestic servant, spy and companion, in addition to helping to bewitch enemies or to divine information.) But she spirals out of control practicing black magic and the cat turns his back on her. When it is discovered that there is a witch among them the settlers naturally want to murder her(again historical...Witch trials.) When escaping the settlers the Beldam fell down the well and into the Void Dimension where her magic is true but not infinite which the Beldam learns the hard way when she begins deteriorating after exerting her magic. Angry and disfigured she does what every fairy tale witch does steals children and steals their souls to stay young and powerful but this isn't easy as the cat is eternally trying to stop her. As for the key, there is only one key because there is only one door to the real world the door at the end of the tunnel leads to the void dimension. Very similar to the key to The Dreamlands in the Lovecraftian Mythos, there is only one key but many ways to enter the dimension.
Hi there So tonight i decided to watch Coraline again for the 100th time. Ive noticed something when she meets Wybie for the first time .. he says to her that his grandma like to rent the Pink Palace to people with kids but his not supposed to talk about it. Suspicious.. and he brings her the doll i think he knows about the "other mother" not sure though just my opinion.
Kaylin Dilgee I also think Jonsie on the note was the girl before Coraline. Also Wybies gramma must’ve known about her sister being beldam and doesn’t want kids in the pink palace. For my first thing I said when the doll comes to the other mother it looks like one of the souls later in the movie
@@kyliemays5262 he says jonesie because coralines last name is Jones. And the doll looked like the grandmas sister because the beldam used the doll for her the same way she did for coraline.
Yeah..Mabey and remember in the movie when coraline brings wybe into the pink palace? And he trys to unlock the door but coraline stops him? That's suspicous
+Jason Carter actually the door can be opened from the inside be use coraline opened the door from the inside to get away from the other mother at the end of the coraline movie
+Hermionegames if u can't open the door from the other world then how come in the movie when coraline was escaping how did she open the door from the other world to go to the original world
A major theme in many books is that children are full of two things: Imagination and Magic. The magic is what the Beldam wants, and the imagination and curiosity are why they open the door. That's why the trap doesn't catch adults, even though they are mostly ignorant in similar books.
Also there is this stone is some legends that's called a seeing stone. It's typically a round stone with a hole in it, but I suppose any shape of stone will work so long as the hole is a perfect circle. If you look at the stone at 8:31, it has a circular hole. Seeing stones typically allow the user to see through any manor of enchantments, so that might be why Mrs. Spink and Mrs. Forcible have it as a good luck charm. And one of them says "It's good for lost things," and that is exactly what seeing stones are typically used for.
The mice are probably how the Other Mother (It feels weird calling her the Beldam) knew that Coraline was hungry. A doll isn't all that reliable, because what if the girl or boy didn't like dolls? I'm guessing she has her mice spy on them too, for when the doll isn't around.
I agree with you, when Coraline goes back to the other world for the last time. The Other Mother summoned one of her rats from the real world with the button key, that itself proves your theory.
Personally I believe the beldam is like a spider, such as she has extra legs, and around the end Coraline falls into a web, also the bugs in the ending scenes would make sense, only because a spider eats them. She also ate the bugs, and offered Coraline some while they were talking. Spiders are well known for their sewing of webs, which would explain the buttons and how she would sew them on. Her hands are clearly made of needles, which would kind of give as evidence. I think that the world the beldam fell into is already in the future and that would be how she knew about Coraline. That's how she made the doll, and somehow put it back into the real world, (or the present at that time) and put the doll there. For the parents being in the snow globe was simple, she took them from the future, but like the butterfly effect, since Coraline saved them, everything changed. They got home and the snow melted because what was supposed to happen was avoided. The key I'm pretty sure was only one because it was special to go in and out of the future, and present. I bet the cat CAME from the portal and that's why there is no replica with button eyes. The beldam never wanted to sew buttons on the cats eyes only because "eyes are the windows to the soul" and the cats eyes were the portals soul or world. Closing them up into buttons would be like sewing a tear closed which would close the portal. That's how the cat knew about almost everything. Sorry none of this makes sense lmao but idk its a theory.
ok so I just rewatched it and I think you're wrong about the cat. Either you're partially correct in that he was the first child, but I think that he tried to escape by playing a game, and when he lost she tricked him and turned him into a cat. When Coraline goes back for her parents, he reluctantly offers this solution, but warns that she doesn't play fair. How else would he know this if all the other children willingly gave up their lives? That or he's just a real cat, and never was one of the children. When it comes to magic and animals, many mythologies see cats as being guides and very knowledgeable about supernatural goings on. And black as a colour is seen to absorb magical energy. Meaning black cats are more magical than other coloured cats. So I think that the cat was there first, and became particularly powerful because of the source of magic there (when we first see the well it's literally a fairy ring, so I think the portal was there first, then the well was dug afterwards), and so the Bedlam hopes to harness the power of it through any means necessary - and this was back when things like slavery and killing natives was a ok, so what if the cat saw how many horrendous things she was doing and then trapped her in the other world, leaving her desperate for sources of magic. And then the cat became the guardian of the other world, which is why when we first see him he's trying to scare Coraline away from the well. This also explains why the Bedlam has to be so sneaky when taking children, and is always feeding them food on every visit: something literally every legend says NOT to do when in a magical realm. Never accept gifts or eat food when there or you will be trapped there forever. Yet the children aren't, not until they decide to stay. Meaning the cat is probably interfering with this rule somehow. Guarding the door once they've gone in so that they can still find their way back out. All this interference and the general nature if cats being guides and even protectors, is why someone like the Bedlam hates cats so much. (Something you didn't explain in your video) But that's just my personal theory.
this also explains why at the end Wybie says that it wasn't his idea to "stalk" her and looks to the cat. If the cat was only Wybie's protector, then the cat wouldn't have endangered him like that. And since cats (magical or otherwise) can't do much in terms of direct interference, they often employ the help of humans to achieve their needs. Also I think there are only the two portals, because the mice are shown to only use the door, whereas when the cat disappears in the sign post at the end, it's identical to how he moves around in the other world. So he's probably just a cat using the magic he absorbed from living in a gateway for so long. That and if you know how, you can bend space and reality slightly in places where the veil between worlds is thin. And considering that cats are knowledgeable about all things magic and this particular cat has no doubt been there for some time, he probably is very good at doing this - in either world. It's also worth noting that everytime he bends space he's walking into, behind or through wood. Trees are seen to have a lot of magical energy, and in places where there is high energy in general, trees are what channel it out from the earth into everything else. Even a dead tree (or part of one) can be a conductor/channel.
+Kate Speaks I agree with what you're saying here. I feel like this fits best with the cats character. It just didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, if the cat was reincarnated. But if he was absorbing and living off magic like the beldam, that would make sense how he's still alive and knows so much about her and the other world. Cats are extremely intelligent beautiful creatures. They sense when things aren't as they seem. Hence him being the children's protector against the beldam and her ways.
+Phoenix Tuve it also would explain why the cat was hated so much by the beldam. If she needed the love of the "reincarnated child" then it's strange she would be so quick to condemn him
I think I can confirm the blue boy in the picture is the cat. Coraline recalls the picture as "one boring blue boy" which simulates with the human like bright blue eyes of the cat. This may be a coincidence however coraline calls the cat a "big fat wuss puss" as to which he says again later in the movie "after all, im just a big fat wuss puss" just like the crying boy in the picture having the personality of a "wuss puss"
your right.And you remember the picture of the blue boy in the normal house was sad.He was bored.And you can remember in the other house the boy was very happy.Maybe its the died boy because of the 'baldam'.
and, the cat is only able to teleport and talk in the other world, at the end the cat teleports. And I also think wybie tricked coraline, because the mice was made out the same stuff he’s made out of and they are able to go in the real world
But wait. In your other theory, I don’t remember which, you said that the cat was relieved when it knew that coraline was planning to throw it in the well. In the end of the movie, she was happy and she thought she was safe. Apparently, I have put all the pieces together and found out that coraline is still in danger. This is how; Since you have been saying that the well is another portal, the cycle seems to never end. You see, when she threw the key away with the hand into the well, it would have appeared back to the beldem. That way, the beldem got her hand AND the key. Which means coraline is still in danger. PLEASE REPLY TO THIS IM SO CURIOUSSS
Talia Loves Art! No, she isn't in any danger. Beldam was trapped and weak already. Even if she made it to the key, she would not be able to go into the real world.
Beldam said that the door has only one key and maybe this key is a magician key...coralin threw it away so i don't think that she's in danger...beldam sent her dolls from that door for the children but now there is no key and i think this things can't happen to any children but only for children who have a hard life or want more love and attention. In the end coralin began to understand her parents more and even loved them more. But honestly it's so scary to see this things and still live at that house.
he explained that in part one I think, he said it symbolises sending the key back to where it comes from, it's different to coraline bringing the key with her
Something you may have missed. The Beldam's metal legs aren't just any legs - they are sewing needles. Everything in the Beldam's world relates to sewing - cross-stitch, crochet, etc. This is probably important in how her magic works. She can't create, but she can stitch things together to (perhaps) make something new.
maybe sewing had something important to do in her life before she fell down the well. and maybe it was partially the cause of why she fell down the well. that would explain why she is so attached to sewing
I think wybies grandma have been to the other world with her sister and then the chaos starts ballalal wybies grandma escaped and her sister didn't -p.s i just think of this
The books make it clear that the Beldam really did want the children to love. However, magic and ghosts revolve a lot around emotions, trauma, and tragedy. What if the Beldam wasn't after eternal youth and magic (at first)? And what if the missing child of the timeline was not a victim of hers, but a child she had before falling down the well? There was plenty of time between 1852 and 1900 for the Beldam to begin. She may well have had a child in her twenties and fallen down with that child around the age of thirty. In the other world, she lives a quiet but peaceful life with her child. But the child may have eventually died. Her pain could have ties her to that world, leaving her unable to escape on her own. The trauma of the loss and the binding to the world then causes insanity or delusion. She could even have began to rip herself apart in an attempt to rejoin her child. But her soul is trapped there. The child, not understanding any of it, may have bound their own soul to the world too. However, since they're already dead, it has a different affect; only children remember this place and are the only humans who can pass in and out of this world freely. The Beldam senses the soul but is now void of the love she was once able to feel. She wants to love again, but she doesn't know how. She uses children in attempt to fill the void of lovelessness. Every time it doesn't work, her true form grows more monstrous. When she grows bored of the newest child, she devours them and the soul she now trapped makes her stronger. She may have assumed this brought her closer to loving again. That's when she attempts to take a fairy. More magic means more love, right? The devouring never brings her closer to her goal, though. The cat, now, could be the result of a non-button-eyed creature entering the world. A curious cat finds one of the mini portals. Cats and many other animals are sensitive to the paranormal. He accidentally absorbs a bit of the soul of the first child. Thus, he knows about what happened to the other children. He knows the Beldam's true nature. And he now knows he must protect the children near the Pink Palace. But one of the biggest issues is the well. If it is another portal, wouldn't the key just have been returned to the Beldam? If that's the case, why didn't the hand attempt to drag Coraline down the well? Unless the Portal is closed by the key itself and can only be opened by the door. Once Coraline locked both doors, she locked the other world's larger portals and maybe even locked out the ability for nonliving things to pass through the portal like the key or the needle hand. Of course, these are just guesses and assumptions that work better with how I saw the movie and not how everyone else sees it.
That's true! I also think Beldam wanted the children to fight off her loneliness. At the end of the movie, when Coraline locks the door, Beldam screams "DON'T LEAVE ME HERE!" Maybe she kept the children's eyes not only for the magic but also so she could never be alone? Brilliant thinking on the thought of "...why didn't the hand attempt to drag Coraline down the well?". +KanaHyoshi
+Brooklyn Schreiner but it doesnt explain the fact of the room with the three childrens ghost did it use to be the childes or dod she put that for a slight comfort
The Beldam creates the key becuase it's her way of allowing only kids to come in if she can see through buttons she knows who has the key for example when the mother opens the door for her the door is bricked up showing she didn't want the mother getting through and there's only one key because she can only have one child in at a time for example when grandmas sister went in she couldn't go after her she didn't know what toke her because she didn't have the key and the same thing that prevents adults from getting in is the same thing that prevents her because there can only be one child!... And key ... It was better if I just kept it at child xD
This gives me an idea not really a theory maybe however reads this can create one but coralline can't get her soul stolen if she's with her parents so maybe the other mother toke her parents so she couldn't be protected hye hyeeeeee =/ =\ >.
I agree with Wybie, he states that “if you fall down the well you’ll see a sky full of stars in the middle of the day”, there is no specific time in Coraline but it’s always night in the Other World and in the first scene the Beldam is making the doll and when she lets it go it’s night so if she is at the bottom of the well Wybie would be right
What if the well was the first passage way to the other world, and the Beldam created passage in the door on her own. If she built the house, she would know about the door, and be able to connect it to the other world. This would explain why the key had a button.
It doesn’t seem like she created the tunnel. The tunnel throughout the book is given many lines that point to it being being a conscious space in of itself. A lovecraftian like being inhabiting the space between spaces. Such as even when the mother is locked in the other world. Coraline recounts feeling a presence in the tunnel with her, and the feeling that if she fell, it is likely she wouldn’t get back up again, hinting that the tunnel itself is somewhat conscious of her presence and has an agenda of its own. Even the cat is afraid of the tunnel. And despite the other mother coming to get him and Coraline , is hesitant about being in the tunnel and tells her they need to leave quickly.
Wait, instead of a mysterious child coming around the 1900s what if the Beldam didn't found a kid. What if, she give her own eyes first? Think about it, even when the magical illusion is gone Beldam eyes are still buttons. Without magical illusion everything about her is revealed except for the Buttons. Why would she want others to see her buttons eyes? To normalize the idea of them in the eyes to the kids. That also explains why she can see through the eyes the doll she uses as bait.
I think that the button key might have also been a way of spying since it does have the button form and as you said anything the beldam put buttons on she could control. This might have explained why she could see coraline's lack of food and her wanting the gloves (when it was hung in the kitchen). as to why she only made one, that could tie in with the void. When she had plenty of magic she had one of the mice bring her a key and she fashioned it the way she needed it. Then as magic began to deplete, she was unable to make more. I think that could possibly explain the key questions. Great video btw!
And the reason there is only one key is because the mice could only obtain one because for a mouse to steal a key in the real world is very hard and you have to have fingers like a thumb..she would and can make other keys but she just doesn't have the material or the source she needed to make others
If Coraline is still stuck in this world of the Beldam, then perhaps the reason why nobody has button eyes is because that world has now transitioned into day? The beldam WAS able to disguise herself as Coraline's mother with no button eyes when Coraline came back to save her parents. Also, I noticed that as soon as Coraline shed her real world clothes and changed into the clothes the Other Mother gave her she was not able to return to her world by going to sleep. If anyone has seen the movie 'Spirited Away' Sen is told to eat something from the spirit world or else she'd disappear. She was also given her old clothes back which was when she remembered herself and her real name, Chihiro (with the bouquet note). It seems to be a common rule that once you shed any physical evidence of the world you originated from it becomes increasingly more difficult to return.
If you've ever read the manga red river it's like that in it too she can't return home without the exact clothes she was wearing when she arrived there
I don't like your theory that the cat is a reincarnation of the first victim as that conclusion is to sloppy and convenient considering you touched on something Ingenious with the Beldam. If i understand correctly your theory of the Beldam is that she fell into the pocket universe whose physics were mutable. She found a means to immortality but it required her to remain in the pocket realm. Now lets say the cat is the first victim who cannot be harvested, however unlike corraline, he hides within the realm rather than escaping. Just as she transforms herself as she grows in her knowledge of the mutability of the realm, so does he and even figures out how to cross over back to his world, the only problem with this is that he has to sacrifice his human form and take on a cat form and he has to return to the pocket universe so often to remain immortal like the Beldam. This limitation gives him the motivation to protect children she attacks, he failed the first three times and succeeds with coraline. With the beldam destroyed he remains in the real world to live out a mortal life as a cat.
i forgot about the fact that they dropped the key in the well and read a good comment below about the beldam would still have the Key, would still have power, just that coraline is lost to her. So i amend my statement about the cat being mortal and would say that he remains in his state waiting to protect the next victim.
i dont think the beldam can predict the future because if she did. she wouldn't have had played the game with coraline, seeing as she lost and she would have known coraline tricked her about the parents being behind the door
but she didnt start losing her magic/power until Coraline came. Her powers became weaker. So, its possible she could have seen the future because she had so much power back then.
Ever since I was I younger, this movie was always my favorite since its creepy and freaky but I happened to really like. I must've watched the movie a hundred times since it came out and each time I pay attention to when the cat days she eats children, she thinks they taste good, she likes to eat their souls, etc. So after a while, I noticed the tunnel or portal look odd. I then thought it might've resembled her esophagus. Tus meaning that when the children enter the other world she consumes them. I haven't gotten to really thinking about this part yet, but I believe that might connect to why she always greets coraline (and the other children) with food as soon as they come through the portal.
The beldam could be giving the children food to fatten them. Like Hansel and Gretel. Noticing that the dead children in that room have normal, skinny bodies. The beldam could be giving the victims food to make the children bigger to eat them when they get fat enough.
When wibie tells Coraline when you fall in this well and you look up you see the sky fill stars in the middle of the day and it is always night time at the bedlam's place
Ok I'm rewatching the movie and I noticed that there is a ring of mushrooms around the well. I thought this was interesting so I looked some stuff up on the Internet, and found that it was an old belief that fairies made the mushroom rings, and if a mortal human ever entered the ring, they would be transported to a different place and trapped there. This could be why there is magic in the beldam's dimension and why the well is a portal. What if the well wasn't always a well but was closed off so that no one would fall into the portal like the beldam?
I once read a book that had a "fairy ring" in it and in the book you have to kneel down and make a wish but I don't know if that means anything and it could explain as the theoriser said that that the beldam once desperately took a fairy for its magic, maybe while they were making the"fairy ring".
Am I the only one who’s noticing a pattern with weird things in cartoons happening in Oregon? Like this is the third one I’ve found and I don’t watch many cartoons/movies
I can only guess that the Beldam made the key so that no other person could stumble on the door. For example, adults. Children would have treated the thing like sacred treasure. They would have kept it to themselves. What about age? Can the Beldam feed off of pre-teens? I have this little idea floating around my head after you pointed out a missing victim. I don't think the first victim is the cat but it's owner. So let's say this kid owned a black cat, they were tight as hell. His family moves into the Pink Palace. As you said this was the period where the Bedlam was desperate for magic HOWEVER, the boy isn't a child. He's a teenager with parental issues (because we all have them at some point). Teenagers are harder to fool than children but the Bedlam was in real need for a soul so she tries to trick the boy. Since the Beldam can apparently shape shift, she must have taken a form that could lure him in and she did. However the boy always took with him his cat to feel secure. The Beldam must have let him keep it, thinking it would do no harm as long as she got the boy. But cats and other animals often react to danger and even the supernatural at times. The boy took this as a warning and acted polite around the Beldam. I bet he refused all sorts of things. You can trick a child with anything but a teenager is a little warier of the world. He wants to leave but he was also curious of the other world. His curiosity would have been his downfall. He should have left while he still could but he might have discovered something in the Other world. Frustrated and desperate, the Beldam was forced to show him her true form to take his soul but she wasn't able to because the boy held something that she couldn't risk be taken. The Fairy, the one thing that still kept the Other world and her alive. She had been using it as a substitute for souls but she couldn't live off it completely. If he freed the fairy before she could capture him, she and the Other World could crumble. The boy was in the same predicament and both sides waited with bated breath to see what the other would do. The Beldam proposed a game then like she did with Coraline. If he won, he may leave but he must leave the fairy. If she won, he stays. Reluctantly, he agrees. With what little naivety he had he agreed, believing that the rules of the Other World must be obeyed, not knowing that the Beldam was it's creator and it followed her will. He couldn't have known better because he had no one to guide him other than his loyal companion and wit. The bitch cheats of course and tries to kill him anyway but he somehow manages to get out of there alive without his cat. The fairy and his cat had given him time to escape. Tis truly a sad time and he mourned for his lost friend. Back in the other world though, the Beldam was causing hell, furious that her victim had escaped but was consoled that she had the fairy at the very least. What she did not know was that the fairy imbued the cat with magic, giving it longevity and intelligence. Before being taken away back to its prison, the fairy had told the cat of another entrance to the Other world. The well. The cat leaves through the well and searches for its boy. When it finds him, it takes him back to the well. The boy realized that his cat had undergone a change. He also realized what his cat wanted him to do and boarded the well up entirely, hopefully to seal the Beldam forever. Shortly after they move out. Seeing that his cat does not age, the boy, now a man now, asks that his old friend would look after his children. The cat does so. Its one way to explain why the cat stayed near Wybie. BUT HEY. It's just a thought XD I didn't expect to go this long lmao
SENPAI NOTICE ME The theory of the well makes perfect sense. Not only the fact that it looks similar to the portal with the door, but how else would the cat continue to go through the portal at the end of the movie. Explanation: At the end of the movie, Wybie and Coraline attach the key to the rock and throw it down the well which is supposedly the other world. That would mean that the Beldam has the key and still has power. Therefore, the other world still exists and the Beldam is not dead. Besides, the cat wouldn't be able to go through the portal unless there was something on the other side.
Actually yes it makes so much since! That's why in my opinion they make another "Coraline." With Coraline's daughter but they still live in Oragon. The other mother takes Coralines daughter. It just makes the most since that the daughter gets attacked to. After all, Coraline gets taken and throws the key in the well, proves the other mother still has access. So PT. 2 of Coraline will be my life! 💎💙😄😊😍😘😁
i love to write stories and I'm actually working on a part 2. its not her daughter tho, it is her great nieces. I'm only on the 4th chapter XD I might publish it when I'm done.
I think that the doll is actually a voodoo doll. It had two faces, both with buttons. The doll looked exactly like Coraline's parents: every facial detail. So? That means that the beldam could actually see through its eyes. Where could the parents go? I suppose that the beldam used the doll and controlled them, and then she locked them in the void. I guess that's why the parents stand in the mirror, freezing: because the void is empty: no heat, no sunlight, nothing. So she stuffed them into a snow globe. That's honestly what I think about the doll.
The Theorizer PLEASE READ THIS--------Question 11- The Beldam fell through a well when she supposedly discovered the house. She then found a void in that well. Soon after, a family with a little girl moved in and the Beldam felt lonely so she lured the girl into the well and she fell in love with the girl. It was harder for the girl to throw herself down the well everyday so the Beldam formed a small door large enough for a child. Because the Beldam didn't want adults following there children through the door, she made it so that the girl could only enter when her parents were sleeping or out. She Started to lose magic so she convinced the girl to sew buttons into her eyes. She still made more for them to do but lost more magic. She used up the last of her magic to create a key to the other world. That used up the last of her magic and didn't have enough to make another. She could not eat because of how much magic she lost and without her magic, she could not spawn food. She decided to find natural food. Since there was nothing for her or the child to eat she may have decided to spend there last days together. She trapped the girls eyes earlier on and therefore her soul. She chose the eat the child as the girl was getting too old. She felt so much magic in her that she was more excited to send a doll and the key back to the real world. As she spent so much magic forming a key she didn't want to waste so much more when she could use that magic to form the new child's interests. The key also had a button on it to resemble her eyes and it might have also been her backup for the doll as she would have been able to see through the dolls eyes. She at have also used the button on the eyes for keeping an eye on what was going on in the real world. MY THEORY. SORRY IF WRONG. THIS CAME FROM EVIDENCE FROM THE MOVIE AND BOOK AFTER I MIXED IT WITH MY OWN THOUGHTS.............
i mean, if the well has a portal, then they throw the key into the well, Coraline basically just gave the key back to the Beldam. Coraline 2 confirmed?
Maybe both the grandmother and her sister met the other mother when they were little, and the grandmother escaped but left her sister. That must explain why she knew that the pink palace was dangerous even though it said that nobody knows what happened to her, and why she never let her grandson go there.
Or maybe the cat helped her escape too like he helped Coraline and her sister didn't listen to him. Also the grandmother could have asked the cat to look after her grandson so he doesn't try to sneak into the palace, I'm pretty sure a grandmother wouldn't let their grandson play with a stray cat for no apparent reason unless she wants him to get rabies or something idk but that's my theory
+bazookabullet101 Well there's the doll that looked like Coraline, and the grandma was twins with the girl. Most people think twins are connected spiritually so maybe the dead twin knew about the doll and when she saw it was an actual person through her sister, she let her hope of freedom flow to her sister, compelling her to let Coraline move in. Just a thought.
im glad im not the only one who wondered how her parents got taken because remember its the real parents so what did the other mother do just run through the door and grab them? glad you covered it.
One thing that I noticed is that the grandma hid the doll from coraline in her trunk because she knew that coraline was there and if coraline got anywhere near the doll that she would be immediately summoned to the other world. And of course the grandma knew this due to what happened to her little sister that quote o quote dissappeared. And of course she just told wyborne that she was stolen because she didn't want him to be parinoid. But wyborne was being stupid so he brang the doll to coroline starting all this mess that could have been prevented if he just stayed back.
awesome puffer that is an amazing thought I actually agree with that statement but I don't really think this is ALL Wybornes fault (I mean he mad a HUGE mistake of giving the doll to Coriline) But if Coriline didn't even go to the "pink palace" this wouldn't have even happened
But I really had another theory... I thought coraline was a girl with abusive mother and passif father, therefore, she wants to escape her reallity. But she met a psychologist (the cat) who help her get through this hell.I thought the bottons was about denial, to represent the fact that either she gives up and decide to shut her eyes from the truth or continue her quest and live her real life. I also thought that the mother was represented as someone who is a manipulator, therefore she would "sew" the people as she wants them to be. People's are her dolls. It also explains her spider-like look. The only key could represent the hope or that "drawe key" in your mind. anyway, there are so many symbols and i feel they can all match. One last thing is, at the end of the movie, it is written something like : "for those who unerstands ..." and there is a kind of password. this movie has a message.
ok, so after reading some comments (especially +buzzkill 78 ) I thought i should give my stance on the whole "wouldn't the key go back to the other mother?" question. The beldam found the world by finding the well, and believing the myth of fairies granting wishes in mushroom circles. She was bored with her reputable life, and wished for a life more entertaining. The fairy granted this wish, and made a pocket universe for the beldam. The passage was through the well. Once the beldam understood the rules of the universe, the same fairy made a way out since the beldam cannot go up a well. However, the beldam seemed to have cruel intentions (wanting to live forever in the pocket universe) and the fairy witnessed the first try at getting a child's soul. The fairy manifested a key to keep the beldam inside, and children out. (after all, when someone makes a key, it is to keep someone from going INSIDE, not outside. think when had you locked your door with a key, from the inside?) The second child unknowingly gets the key, and travels into the universe, and then the next child, and the next child do the same.
then when coralline throws the key down, the key doesn't work for the beldam because there isn't a way to unlock the lock from the inside. she's trapped,
Idk if u have said this cause I'm new but... I realize that the sand she uses is actually magic?! She transformes rats into those jumping mice. At the beginning of the movie she puts the sand stuff in the doll, which allows her to maybe look into the other world without going into the world.
The question about there being one key. As stated, she created the portals. So, that key at the beginning WAS HERS. Boy ( CAT ) escaped TAKING the key with him and closing the door. THIS is why we see her going as far as to SWALLOW it, so it never leaves again!
Wait. If the Pink Palace was created in or around 1852, it wouldn't have been made for the Beldam. Women couldn't live on their own in that time period. Which means that a man would have been with her when she went to Ashland. I assume it would be her husband, instead of a brother or father. If that's the case, what happened to the Beldam's husband?
@Caitlin Casanova. I don’t think that the other father was her husband this being that in countless theories it was mentioned that the other father and other Wybie were made out of Soul Sand. They don’t have proper feelings but they are made from the souls of the children ( a very tiny fragment is made from the children) but this means that they help coraline in the end. Your theory is interesting but I’m afraid not true
I thought she took children because she had a miscarriage. She took they're eyes because her late child didn't get to see the world. Why buttons? I think it was because she created clothing. Mainly purses I believe. Because in the tunnel they're we're mostly bags. The reason why they're was only one key is because it probably came with a huge price. (Her skin for example) the gardener(representing coraline's father) was probably her late husband. And that's all I got.
BBbunny it could also be of that buttons are easy to find so the other mother uses the magic in the other world to see anything with buttons. Also you cant make things from scratch so she needs to use somthing already made. So she uses the buttons. Plus she is obsessed with the yarn and string for sewing. And by a other commenter the stated that the spider Corlind got stuck in was made from the yarn/string. The Theoriszer ( im pretty sure I said his name wrong ) also said it was " sew - able". She probably also did have kids but I didn't think the beldam uses buttons because she had kids and made clothes for them. But you have your opinion and I have my opinion. thats all I can tell you for right now
Melisa Lorena Uysal that can not happen in real life. In my opinion I belive there is no way she can be a human sewing machine. Even if you are using this " saying " as a joke I still disagree.
But here is one thing i never got even when i was a kid. Did the Beldam turn into other kids Mom's to look like them or did she always just look like Coraline's Mom or maybe when they saw how cool and nice she was they thought she was a better Mom even tho she looks nothing like their Mom but if anyone and make a theory for me on that even the theorizer i just wanna know i just honestly think she transforms or something like that to look like other childrens Moms btw did she always look like that when she lived there like a hundred years ago cause if she did why did she look lije Coraline's mother but deformed it was like she was waiting for Coraline all these years and finally found her the day she moved into the pink palace this just doesn't add up its going to take a lot of ppl to figure out how this Coraline thing works.
The way she appears at the end (after revealing herself to Coraline) is how she had always looked, well minus all the metal replacement parts of course. When a family moves into the house, she decorates her pocket dimension to look just like the Pink Palace does (furniture, wall paper, etc.) and then alters her own appearance to look like the new victims victim's mother. She does all this because, even though times have changed and all children now adays know stranger danger, even back in the early 1900's most kids would at least be slightly wary about trusting and believing some random stranger who's living on the other side of a tiny door in your living room. It would be much easier to immediately gain the child's trust by just convincing them that, "Everyone has an other mother." Add to that the fact the Beldam was able to offer the kids everything they could want and desire but did not have from the real world, then tells them they could stay forever... This is precisely why it is so important for all parents to teach their children as soon as possible, that other mothers don't exist, and while they may think their life is awful and sucks that they should actually be grateful and enjoy the hell out of it cause it's only gonna get worse... Lol hope that last part isnt taken seriously by too many...
my theory about why Caroline's family was allowed to move in to the Pink Palace is because the grandmother was kind of waiting for her. If there was about a 50 year difference between the grandmother's sister being taken,and Coraline coming into the house then somewhere between that time We see the doll getting reconstructed to look like Coraline. What if it happened many years before when the grandmother was younger, and she found the doll that look like Coraline. Realizing something was wrong with that doll since she no longer could find the one that our sister had. She probably kept it and it states in the movie Wybie found it in his house, so if the grandmother met the family prior as most landlords do she musy have seen that the doll was identical to Coraline. She probably knew that that Coraline was the next intended victim for whatever took her sister, but instead of sending Coraline mostly likely to be sacrificed maybe she saw Coralines personality when she met her, and that she believed Coraline might be able to end it all because Caroline doesn't act like somebody that would just roll over and play dead at the first sign of getting what she wants.
I think the Coraline doll is the other mother's only way to see and probably move around in the real world. Let me explain the doll keeps vanishing so mabye when Coraline is not looking the Beldam controls the doll and listens to Coraline and what she wants. I think she does do that because in the other father song he says "Mom and I will never make it boring." So what if she's doing that to make Coraline stay and to make her happy so she stays?🤔
Maybe the key is giving the child a sense of power over the other world, like it makes them feel like they have power over it when in reality they have little to no control over it?
maybe the bedlam turns into the doll at night because the mom and dad are with her at night before she goes to bed and when the doll was under the bed that's the only time you see her going through the door in the middle of the day
In the novel, it mentions Coraline having a grandmother and maybe the reason why the Beldam kinda looks and sounds familiar to her own mother is because maybe she IS the grandmother in spirit form.
I meant CORALINE's grandmother not Mrs Lovat. Two different people. She's mentioned in the novel when Coraline's parents moved her old furniture in the drawing room of the apartment.
hm... maybe it's another hidden clue? then again there are similar characters on animated films that developers intend to do just maybe... for symbolism or some sort, just like Horrax (in his video explanation) but they didn't have any blood or real connection. But if you say so, does that mean her grandmother who built and owned the house before Mrs Lovat's parents even own the house? If so then the house wouldn;t be "rented" by Caroline but a "heritage" for her family just like Mrs Lovat's parent's for hers
kyota75 That could explain why Mrs Lovat allowed Coraline and her parents to move in despite having the rule that couples with children weren't allowed to rent the apartment.
If the pink palace was made in 1852, than she would have had a husband at the time, or a family. Notice the painting of the blue boy in the earlier parts of the movie, and how he looked sad. The cat, also has bright blue eyes, however he doesn't talk like a little boy, rather an old British man. The "Beldam" meaning witch, moved into the palace with her family, and used her son for witch craft. The husband found his wife sacrificing their child by the well, and pushed her down it to save his son. Unfortunately the son died anyway, and he jumped down the well as a suicide attempt but instead was trapped with the beldam in a portal she opened as a result of a half finished satanic offering. The husband convinced her he did it because he regretted trying to kill her, and she sparred him, turning him into a cat using what soul sand she DID he managed to retrieve from her son. The cat carefully watched the beldam as she created the world, and made use of the holes in her reality in order to escape.
When the beldam was finally killed at the end of the movie the blue boy in the painting looks happy, as if his soul had been avenged by Coraline.
Cool theory, makes sense and fits with what has been said prior.
This makes so much sense! And the cat metions how he knows the beldom well, and knowa she likes games. This ties all loose ends
This is my favourite theory yet
Great idea this and 9 are my favourite movies
This is very logical thinking! You are very smart and I can definately see how this works
Another things to help the theory that the portal is at the bottom, is that when she throws the doll you see stars outside the window. And wybie told coraline in the beginning, "Its supposed to be so deep, you'd see a sky full of stars in the middle of the day."
at the beginning of the movie coraline drops some mud down the well to see how far down it was. the next time she went to the other world the beldam gives her mud to help with poison oak. this supports the theory that there is a portal at the bottom of the well.
EDIT: wow maybe I should start a theory channel 😂😏
Wow, I didn't even notice that 😧
true but don't they have mud there ???
Charley Eldergill I'm not sure but, i do know that the the beldam can't make mud out of nothing. In the other world there is nothing. The mice scavenge for things and give her them so she can use her magic to create objects. So maybe she used the mud that coraline dropped down the well. I'm not 100% sure
Lucy Evans Yeh I'm not 100% sure either the mice could have bring some or it could have been coraline idk ???
Is it ?!?!?
Imagine just the creators of the movie watching this and being like, “woah I didn’t know any of this”
Me ;D that would be the same thing and I would just sit there and stare at the movie til I got what he said!
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The movie is based on a book.
But if you mean that they just read through fast and created a movie then yes.
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@@heretostartdrama2086 Sorry dude, I think I was half asleep so I dont even know what I wrote myself.
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I genuinely think the beldam wants to be loved by the children because not only does she need there essence lol but because she also has a motherly instinct. Maybe in the past she wasn't able to have kids and uses this to her advantage to gain the children's love. Because honestly she doesn't need their love, she could basically kill them when they arrive there. You also notice how much it offended or hurt her when coralline told her during the climax that she wasn't her mother, and when she told her to take it back she didn't, so she went into her ugly which form, because she knew she had "lost" coralline.
JV N but what about after she takes the eyes from them, she obviously knows theyre still there tbh i wouldnt be suprised if she took the souls there herself to trap them
To add on to this because she couldn't have children she got depressed and attempted to kill herself by jumping down the well and accidentally ended up in the other world
JV N it is not because ot that. it is because she murdered her mother which was the only one she had, and that led on to the mice seeing the children, knowing that they would fall into the hands of a better, most loving mother and that would replace the love she had lost for her mother. but then when they sewed their eyes she had fun with them. like their mother. and she also might have sent the mice for men that are single so she could merry annd have a happy life with children but never got that so when the mice saw the children, she could make a copy of the dad and make herself the mom, and when they sew the eyes they become blind so the beldam would turn to her original self so she doesnt perminatly become the other mother of that child for forever.
JV N i was thinking the same thing in the sense that since she is spider-like she was a "widow" who couldn't conceive so maybe her partner left her so she lures children to her to fufill her wish to be a mother but eventually realizes they will never be her own, remembers her incapability and her partner leaving her so she kills them
No I see the Beldam's love towards kids like how pedos want to keep kids to themselves. Its very similar.
I think as you said that the beldam created the little door but she made one key for herself (from the objects that the mice brought her) ,so she could unlock the door and lure children in and then lock the door, but as the cat escaped he stole the key so she couldn't open/lock the door and steal other childrens souls
plz like so he sees this
So that is why there is only one key
Venetia SharmaTutorials yes
Venetia SharmaTutorials I actually like that idea a lot
I kind of disagree. I think the reason there exists only one key is because it was the only thing that Beldam could replicate conceptually, as The Theorizer put about her learning.
Venetia SharmaTutorials Completely agree
a parent would say "run", "be safe", "i love you", not "help us and risk your own safety" XD i also found that weird.
Or "call for help". That way Coraline wouldn't need to risk her life.
I agree. Many parents would tell her NOT to come in, especially if there was danger, not the other way around haha.
my parents would tell me to kill myself... ill go now byebye
Yea I really think that it was some sort of trick that the Beldam did.
+James wARD wtf
Wait then in the end when she ties the key with the blanket and the broken hand, they throw it down the hole
Doesn't that mean she just threw the key back into the other world???
Really I want coraline 2 to come out NOW.
Mamuna Hafeez A 2nd one would be great. Beldamn was trapped and already weak. Beldam isn't able enter the real world as she her powers are useless up in other dimension. Regardless I really want a sequel.
that is exactly what i was thinking too
I believe Caroline 2 should be the answers of everyone's questions like the Other mother Past
That's exactly what I was thinking and honestly it might be much more interesting
But Coraline locked the door and since the Beldam is starving with her hand destroyed, she's practically locked inside out.
coraline is more confusing than rocket science
Rocket science is actually very easy. In about a week, I have a 25 minute long video coming out where I calculate the best jetpack in Jetpack Joyride, using complex rocket science for 25 minutes straight. Coraline is indeed much more difficult.
The Theorizer p
@TRINITY NEVINS
it’s supposed to be a joke
that’s so true
@WeebArmy #47 IKR!!!
Uhm why is nobody talking about how Miriam and the other lady that lives in the basement knew about the triangle to help. Or the candy? The tea? Or how mr Bobinsky knows about the belldam?
They are ALL the beldam's puppets (after the first time she leaves the real world). When she first returns to the real world (when she wakes up) she doesn't actually, the beldam tricks her. Then on after all the other people are puppets (whether with button eyes or not) doing their part to trick coraline into finally believing she is back home and loves her parents (the end of the film).
Yeah, she never returns home for real, it is all a scheme to get coraline thinking she is back home and loving life because the beldam feeds off LOVE (somehow).
PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG
Haggisbishop
Aha I love how you want us to prove you wrong.
Well I don’t think that’s true since it doesn’t make sense as to why the beldams hand
Tried to get the key again?
Haggisbishop No.... she returns home. People overdo the theories sometimes.
Moonlight TH-cam Because children have mysteriously gone missing. And Wybie's grandmother lost her sister to Beldam when they were little. She luckily escaped. The candy and the tea were just measures to protect against the supernatural
First of all, Mr. Robinsky didn’t know about the Beldam, he only said the mice told him things. The candy is some taffy they had that was very old and they believed it was protection against really anything! And the tea could be just random! Maybe they do that to everyone that comes over.
Hey, does anyone else realize that the triangle thing Coraline looks through to see the souls is also a piece to a ouija board???
Yes
Omg truee
What a scary fact.
Yup
Plancehtte
Dragonfly’s bouncing against a body of water represents a soul trying to get back into the body I hope it helps
Gacha lunar Studios good to know but he deciphered the entire lore already
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The Theorizer, The doll was not there when coralline went shopping. But keep in mind the beldam still has mice running around doing things for her. If she does that means the Mice could've followed Coraline, seen she wanted gloves, and alarmed the beldam about it. Also when she's at home I have the same theory for that.
i assumed it was buttons on clothes at first but then i realized she could probably only see through buttons that she has sewn onto things or buttons that have been in her world
+Mythological Nightmares well those buttons were in her world so
bobbi furin when i say i assumed it was buttons i meant like buttons on clothes in the store
Mythological Nightmares Do you approve my theory or is it stupid.
Summer Mercier i thinkit makes a lot of sense, because the mice couldve easily hid in the car or the mothers bag
Ahhh, so at the end of the Coraline movie she drops the key in the well right? Doesnt that mean she's just dropping it back INTO THE OTHER WORLD AGAIN!??
That's what I was thinking
Omg
But the universe was destroyed...right?
Even if it is in the other world the Beldam has no use for it. She can't leave the other world or she'll die. And after Coraline escaped her she died anyway because she lost her last chance at getting more souls. She was deteriorating and was at her last line of life.
True, but the Beldam's world was destroyed along with the Beldam. So even if a key falls down, it's basically in a void. The ending of this movie is still fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure the robotic hand falls down the well, too. But because the world is no longer existent, doesn't that mean whatever was a part of the world disappears, too? I don't know, I'm just musing.
+Faith but can't the mice be able to somehow be able to take the key and go to the real world because she can't leave so she can send the mice
I love this movie but Jesus, I'm getting more and more creeped out by it now..
itshannahl0l same
itshannahl0l maybe same
same
itshannahl0l the beldams waist is too creepy
I am getting more intrigued tbh 😅
And the button on the key means because she's watching her wherever she goes that's why she knew coraline was hungry because she brought the key!
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She didn’t get the key until AFTER she got home and looked in the refrigerator. She got the key when she decided to see if the other world was real or not which was after all that happened
maybe the grandmother let coraline in so the beldam would take her instead of whybe
Marcus Munn savaggeee but that makes sense not gonna lie , cuz she didn't want kids to live in pink palace according to whybie
Marcus Munn that makes sense. The cat brought coraline the doll. The cat is a friend of whybe. The cat stopped Caroline from getting rid of the key, except when she threw it down the well (another portal) he brought her the doll so that the other mother could spy on her instead of whybe, therefore taking her instead.
Marcus munn we don't know if the grandma knows about the other world so
have you ever seen the movie? whyborn gives many messages to coraline explaining how the grandmother doesn't want whyborn around the house or her. showing how everytime whybe is out of her house, she calls him to come back. Also then how would whyborn know that his grandmas sister was taken if she didn't know the story as well. Even putting in a part where the grandma doesn't want a family with a child moving in also how she tells whyborn that she doesn't want him in the house
Destiny Parra who in the world is whyborn
The triangle thingy you were talking about is actually a Hag stone, also known as Holey stone or Witch stone. They are stones that have naturally occurring holes and are usually found near oceans and other bodies of water. They are said to be powerful protection talisman, and when worn or carried they protect the bearer from curses, hexes, negative spirits, and harm. They have also been used to prevent nightmares, being strung on a bedpost or placed underneath pillows. It is also believed that if you peer through the hole of the stone that you can see fae folk and otherworldly entities. If one broke, it is thought to have used its power to protect a life.
Wow i didnt know that O.O this is very interesting
Also called "fairy stones"
WOW!!!how do you new that
That movie gave and still gives me the creeps... I think I was 9 or 8 when I saw and now, with 16 , I AM still scared about the movie XD
SAME!!
then you wont like the second movie next year
+INSANITY THERE'S A SECOND MOVIE!! I WANT TO SEE IT!
No way?! :o
+kidz4life UK is there?
The other father actually is warning her in his song!
“Eyes of buttons”
It's actually "cute as a button in the eyes of everyone who ever laid their eyes on Coraline". Yes, I watch the movie too much.
UAF Games english isn’t my first laungige
@@Ella-gb8yx oh, sorry...
UAF Games it’s fine
yep
This film used to scare the shit out of me
same
I used to watch horror movies without flinching, but I still haven't watched this movie in its entirety
Same
Chicken Permission how is that?! It's one of my all time favorite films!! 10/10
dude i watched it when I was five with my sister who was 7 and im a girl
Coraline is my personal favorite movie., it's FREAKING AWESOME., the characters., the art and animation style., & plot/storytelling are perfect.,,.
same
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS
Danno Kane Because Tim Burton Flawless
Kaitlyn Richie Tim burton didn't do Coraline. Henry Sellik did.
Danno Kane it was my favorite movie when I was 3 or 4. ❤️ still is !
I think that song that the other dad was singing was trying to tell coralline about the beldam how she is and what she is doing
Courtenay O'Donnell omg yes he kept saying our eyes will be on coraline !!!
HOLY COW. It's like the song is by beldam! She made the song! "When she goes around exploring, know that i wil never ever make it boring ALL EYES WILL BE ON CORALINE"!!! She makes sure the 3 wonders aren't boring to lure Coraline in!! Oml you are so smart!
Rhys & Courtenay Jacob Question: But who is the fake dad? Another child she turned into a soul?
Yes it is a warning
Just some nit-picking: Vincent Van Gogh wasn't imprisoned. He had admitted himself to an insane asylum to help with his depression and schizophrenia
Elomoose hat Ya dats true
Wow, dark.
Elomoose hat he was still trapped, physically and mentally
The {] [} thing is cool and unique
@@mr.qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcv3077 thx :)
I did some thinking about the cat too, but it has a dark plot twist. (Please keep in mind I haven't thought out the entire background and I haven't read the book.) But what if the cat was evil? What if the cat is the other mother's spy? When Coraline was going to leave her room to destroy the key, he tries to stop her. He may seem to 'help' Coraline, but I feel like he outsmarted the other mother and knew she wouldn't win; so he knew he had to befriend Coraline. I think the cat is the other mother's last resort to protect the key. (The throwing the cat onto the other mother was still unintentional and unplanned.) He also befriended Wybee so he'd have a place to stay in the normal world and he kept an eye out for Wybee's grandmother and her possible plans for the Pink Palace's future. If it were to follow your theory about the well being another portal, then wouldn't the other mother have won because Coraline sent the key down the well? The cat says he comes and goes as he pleases and at the end of the movie, and he seems to leave through a portal back into the dream land with the other mother (his real home). But what refutes this idea is that there would really be no need for the doll. Maybe better spy coverage for the child as the child is in the house alone, like a bedroom? I hope you respond and please give me your feedback. +The Theorizer
+bluegill44neo That's pretty good! I've seen a few similar evil cat theories now, but yours actually gave some pretty good evidence! I'm considering it, but still believe that the cats intentions are good. I will look more into it and maybe even alter my final decision!
Oh I was also curious about when the other mother said that "everyone has an other mother", does that mean there is an other Coraline too? It may not seem like anything but the other mother sounded so sure when she said it. Or when she is an adult an other Coraline would form? Idk, that would also mean that the other world is a dimension or another universe.
Thank you! ^.^
+bluegill44neo She's just lying to gain Coraline's trust, there aren't really "other mothers" for all people.
I see... Love your videos by the way!
I just notice that each button has 4 holes, which in total would make 8 holes. It kind of resembles like the 8 eyes of a spider which ties in to her overall spider like appearance/ qualities and all
Dude c'mon, the theories like the video are good and interesring but when you overthink even the number of buttons, it ruins it, doesnt even make sense.
Alejandro Mavarez dude it’s a Theories channel that’s the whole point and the creator obviously likes looking at comments and different peoples view points even if they may not be supported by evidence it’s the magic of the channel and the community he’s created
Joshua Montefrio or the eight LEGS
That's just random.
Joshua Montefrio OMG UR RIGHT!
What if the parents being in the mirror is just a trick to get coraline to go back to the beldam
I think the cat said something along the lines of "You're falling right into her trap," signaling that the mirror was a trap.
Adrianna Askaloyd that actually makes a lot of sense
Adrianna Askaloyd the button eye father and wybie are good people especially the other father if you listen to the lyric of the song its a word of warning listen to it
Adrianna Askaloyd I agree because I. The movie the bedlam faked to be the real mother so Thant means she could have shape shifted to fool Coraline
Adrianna Askaloyd he basically said that in the video
Omg when coralline goes to bed “sew you soon” 😱😱😱
Wow I never realized that
Wow me too!
Damn so scary.
Maybe Coraline dreams/lucid dreams about the other world. Also at 13:34 the bottom thing says that if a dragon fly appears in your dreams it may indicate that something in your life may not be as it seems. She wears the dragon fly in her hair and also in her other bedroom dragon flies fly around. I believe she isn’t happy with her life so she made up a new one in her lucid dream. Also lucid dreams can become bad if you accidentally think of something bad. When she finds the door and her Mother unlocks it it is locked. So maybe, she was wondering what it would be like on the other side and if there would be better life than hers, so later that night she dreamt about it. I dunno it’s just a theory baha.
Tana Lottle interesting
It's a preety good theory
Tana Lottle What about Miriam and Mr. Bobinsky knowing about Beldam? And the missing sister trapped by Beldam.
Tana Lottle That theory doesn't correlate with the fact that Wybie's grandma knows about Beldam and doesn't want children going to the Pink Palace. She couldn't have lucid dreamed that. Her sister also goes missing because of Beldam.
Tana Lottle I'm sure that “what isn't what it seems” is a warning about Beldam. She's missing the joy and satisfaction in her real life so she finds it elsewhere... but that is deceiving.
I have a theory as to what the doll does. Have you ever heard of a Japanese game where you take a doll/stuffed toy, you fill it with rice and then you sew it with red thread? In the beginning of the movie, that's what the Beldam does. Only she uses the soul sand.
In the Japanese game, the doll comes alive and will wander around, and that's what got me. What if the doll followed Coraline in secret, and then saw what she wanted?
Also, in the first parts of the movie, the Beldam gets the hint that Coraline hates the food her parents cook. She could have given her more yummy food since it's what she likes.
Also, in the game there are rules, such as you must hide and not let the doll find you or else something bad will happen. You also cannot leave the house. Her parents did that, and so what if when they did, it caused a doll to see this and they were lured to someplace the Beldam could access (I.e. The Well) and they ended up trapped by her?
That's a really cool theory!
I've heard of that game, attempted it myself but never went through with it. Also that's a pretty good theory.
great theory
That makes so much sense especially since they say throughout out the other mother "has a thing for games"!!!
the following thing would make sense because in the beginning of the movie when coraline is counting the windows the doll disappeared & ended up next to the door.
This movie scared me so bad as a child
Omg same I could never watch that movie. If I did I would have nightmares for like days
it wasn't that scary XD actually not even scary
IKR
same
for me it was mostly the idea of it. because when I first watched it I was really little and was very attached to my mom. It fucked me up badly when she took her parents away and the whole movie gave me a sense of loneliness and isolation
I’m still not entirely sure Coraline ever made it out of the “other world”
more I am watching explanation and I analyze it I agree
That theory is called the “ pink limbo theory” have a search if your interested :)
I’m as interested in that theory as 90’s North America was interested in ducks. Which is very
Yes I agree
Katie Bowles I might try to do that theory!
Coraline was the fall of my childhood. I still have nightmares
Me too
It scared me so much
the thing us once u watch it twice u already get used to it
Same
Lol how old were you? Its not that scary! My mom made me watch the Shining when I was 11. My cousin made me watch IT when I was 10. That's something you should be scared of. Not the Beldam 😂😂
I think Coraline was just smoking some good weed before going to bed
Lol either that. Or the author was licking toads or something while writing this story 😂😂
That is rog Iam 9
That’s a good theory
you don;t know how your comment released all of the creepiness that I feel. Thank you. hahaha
Ahaahah xD
I noticed something coraline's dad doesn't want to hurt her but the mom dose
Platinum Goldie the other father (I assume this is who you are referring to in the comment) is most likely also filled with the "soul sand" that is used in Coraline's doll. If he was filled with this sand - as the video states - he would know the same truths and fates as the previously taken children. This would make him have instincts to help Coraline, just like the children do when Coraline is stuck inside the mirror room
I think that the Beldam probably kept him prisoner or something
ItzKayla L Like all wives
if you notice he's also the only one eating with Coraline while the Beldam watches them eat but the dad always has big portions on his plate.
Revive Me I don't think that is a relevant point, if she is talking about the other world dad, he was created by beldam and is controlled by her, bedlam also poses as the mother
the beldame can see through buttons, therefore when a kid picks up the key she is aware of it and has time to prepare for their arrival and also know when to get the mice to lead the children to the portal.
That's my key theory lol
I agree with u
Does anyone wonder where Wybie lives
I thought he lived with his grandmother?
down the road,with his grandma.
IG: NaturallyPaige_ yeah but you never see were he lives
Leah McCue she ment where do he and his Grandma live GOSH YOUr LIKE A KINDERGARTENER!!!!🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️😒😒😒🙄🙄😑😑😑
Yes
The cat in Coraline kinda reminds me of the cat in Alice in Wonderland not just cus they’re both cats but bc they both seem to be less important supporting characters that secretly have a lot of knowledge about the worlds but have mysterious backgrounds
Honestly I think the cat was a pretty important character since it knows so much hinting that it survived the beldam or is something else and I think they did it on purpose to let people think
Or I’m just trying too hard to look smart😂
Shawty 101 and they just randomly disappear😂
The cat is really important in the movie.
Reminds me of hocus pocus
My theory on the Key:
We know that the Beldam fell down the well to get to the other world, not through the door. So, as you said in the video, she created the door in the study to make an easier passage-way to the other world. This means she made the door so therefore made the key, which is why there is a button on it.
As for the fact that there's only one key, I believe it's for the Beldam to give her next victim a sense of trust and a sense of freedom as she is entrusting the child with the only key allows the child to ocme and go whenever they want to, which is all part of her plan to make the child trust her to the point where she can easily take the child's soul.
did she build the door by using the mice?
Jake Lake
Possibly. I'm not entirely sure how she might have done it. I assumed she did as The Theorizer says she built the door at 6:42
Sounds good
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY GOOD THERIES!!!1 AND AGAIN IM ENGLISH AND I CANT EVEN SPELL!!
the thing i dont get is who made the well...? and how did they make a portal to a whole other world
I know this video is old, but I have a few thoughts on it that you might consider for your future theories:
a) Witches who feed off on children (souls, blood, flesh) are a common topic in folklore, have you done any research on witch trials in Ashland, Oregon? Perhaps, the Beldam practised witchcraft during her lifetime, and like Agatha in Paranorman was killed by the towns people and her soul casted away and locked, which could explain the door and the fact that there is only one key, and why the Beldam seems to want it so much, not because she wants to escape, but because losing it would mean she would lose the entryway she has control over. The buttons could be explained by maybe her modus operandi while being alive. Eyes are windows to the soul, what if while being alive, the Beldam took children and sewed button into their eyes in order to strip them off their souls? Tales such as that one, I am sure, are common.
b) There is an old tale called "The New Mother" from which it is very possible Neil Gaiman got the inspiration for the Other Mother, I suggest you check it out
c) Vermin, the cat, I'm not convinced with him being the first victim and escaping and then reviving just to protect Wybie??? Wybie doesn't even play much of an important role in the movie or book. Notice how the cat mentions that he and the Beldam "like to play a game" when questioned by Coraline about how he got there. We are told that the Beldam hates the cat, and even knows his name, if Vermin was indeed her first victim, I don't think he would willingly cross to the Other World, since protecting Wybie did not require him to. He might be just as old as the Beldam, perhaps when the Beldam was locked away in the Other World he was created as a guardian to keep her in it, and to protect the victims and help them escape, hence his interest in Coraline and helping her both escape the Beldam AND keep her in the Other World
d) I don't think once Coraline escapes she destroys the Beldam and her magic, once she tosses the key on the well, she sends the key back to her, meaning that while Coraline is safe from her, the kid after her won't. Which explains the shot at the end of the movie, of Vermin disappearing. His job is not done, he still has to keep the Beldam locked and the kids safe. Before she goes out, we see how he tries to stop her from getting rid of the key. Why? He knows that Coraline knows there is a well, maybe he knew she wanted to throw it down there?
So glad to see this comment. I agree with most of your theories. Especially with the key. It is the only way to open or lock the only entrance to the pocket dimension, which isnt just under her control, but also the only really viable way to get the kids to come to her. Kids are naturally curious, and in a tiny, boring town with only 1 other kid to play with or talk to, finding a tiny door that's been wallpapered over would make pretty much any child curious to explore.
As for the cat here's my theory. When the beldam was alive and first moved into the house she at least had a child of her own. Being a witch and wanting more power a think she may have sacrificed her own child (which I think others discovered she did this and wanted to hang her. While the mob was after her she may have fallen down the well which transported her into the pocket dimension. Seeing her fall down the well, the mob left believe her to either be dead or will eventually die down there.). I think the cat, belonged to her child. This would explain how they know so much about one another, why they have "a game they like to play" and also why they don't seem to like each other at all. Just my own personal theory though.
I really agree with your third theory, it just makes no sense for vermin to be protecting wybie when he doesn’t even need it
If she can see through all buttons then she could see through the key. Key left in the kitchen where she was starving thats how she would have known.
Wow very int elegant.
That makes sense
I just said thaf as well that makes more sense though .
Truuuuu
Like he said, every single Easter egg counts
Woah Woah Woah! A button is something sewed to fabric. What if the key is a button because it connects the two worlds together? And why the Beldam uses buttons: it connects the souls of the children to her for her life source. If you don't have the key, you can't visit the other world. Plus, when Coraline collects all the buttons, the Beldam's ties to the children are broken...
There is only one key bc you cannot go back up the well, but you can go back through the door. That must mean the key was created by the Beldam so children would be able to enter the pocket universe.
There's a mirror to get to the kids souls bc mirrors show ur true self, and this mirror showed the Beldam's.
+LPSEverdeen When you said the key is the button that connects the two worlds together, I thought that was genius, and I can't believe that slipped my mind!
+LPSEverdeen since their is a button on the key, she knows where the key is at all times
+Artseytips I watched this movie with my friend. We had this same argument and she said that the button is just the button on the key, the beldam said that she could see through the mice/rats. So the buttons have a different meaning. My friend won the argument.
Your theory is good but you should read The Sandman: The Doll's House (The adult version of Coraline). Many unanswered questions and secrets are in that book and really ties the two together. As for the Beldam your theory is pretty spot on but allow me to push it further and tie the cat in, in a slightly more believable way. The Beldam is not the leader of the settlers but the wife of the leader of the settlers(historically speaking) and she isn't a good little puritan either instead she practices witchcraft. The cat is her familiar(an animal-shaped spirit or minor demon believed to serve a witch or magician as domestic servant, spy and companion, in addition to helping to bewitch enemies or to divine information.) But she spirals out of control practicing black magic and the cat turns his back on her. When it is discovered that there is a witch among them the settlers naturally want to murder her(again historical...Witch trials.) When escaping the settlers the Beldam fell down the well and into the Void Dimension where her magic is true but not infinite which the Beldam learns the hard way when she begins deteriorating after exerting her magic. Angry and disfigured she does what every fairy tale witch does steals children and steals their souls to stay young and powerful but this isn't easy as the cat is eternally trying to stop her. As for the key, there is only one key because there is only one door to the real world the door at the end of the tunnel leads to the void dimension. Very similar to the key to The Dreamlands in the Lovecraftian Mythos, there is only one key but many ways to enter the dimension.
WoW! This is so good and believable. I could totally see this being a more realistic version of the story. I wish i could upvote it!!!!
That's the same theory I have. That the Beldam was a witch during the witch trials.
During the witch trials? I think they'd trial her if she was blamed to be a witch before & after the trial.
No! The Salem witch trials were in 1692, and Ashland Oregon was settled in the 1800s.
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So, the Beldam originated from Spain, but then moved to Ashland Oregon, to the Pink Palace & the story goes on.
If history itself supported your theory
*HISTORY HAS ITS EYES ON YOU*
Alan Leone-Bridges I’m sorry but- HETALIA! Oml I love Alfred!! ^-^
Mochi ! It’s ok I get that a lot
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Hi there
So tonight i decided to watch Coraline again for the 100th time. Ive noticed something when she meets Wybie for the first time .. he says to her that his grandma like to rent the Pink Palace to people with kids but his not supposed to talk about it. Suspicious.. and he brings her the doll i think he knows about the "other mother" not sure though just my opinion.
Kaylin Dilgee I also think Jonsie on the note was the girl before Coraline. Also Wybies gramma must’ve known about her sister being beldam and doesn’t want kids in the pink palace. For my first thing I said when the doll comes to the other mother it looks like one of the souls later in the movie
@@kyliemays5262 he says jonesie because coralines last name is Jones. And the doll looked like the grandmas sister because the beldam used the doll for her the same way she did for coraline.
Yeah..Mabey and remember in the movie when coraline brings wybe into the pink palace? And he trys to unlock the door but coraline stops him? That's suspicous
I agree but he said she dont like to rent to people who have children
Maybe she's doing it to protect Wybie.
But in the end coraline drops the key into the well.. so the other mother would have it back, right?
Hinata Meow :3 that's a really good point omg
+Jason Carter actually the door can be opened from the inside be use coraline opened the door from the inside to get away from the other mother at the end of the coraline movie
but you cant open the door from the other world
+Hermionegames if u can't open the door from the other world then how come in the movie when coraline was escaping how did she open the door from the other world to go to the original world
Vic Carrasco Right!!! Guys she only reason she threw the key down the well was (in hopes) that *other* children can never open the door.
A major theme in many books is that children are full of two things: Imagination and Magic. The magic is what the Beldam wants, and the imagination and curiosity are why they open the door. That's why the trap doesn't catch adults, even though they are mostly ignorant in similar books.
Also there is this stone is some legends that's called a seeing stone. It's typically a round stone with a hole in it, but I suppose any shape of stone will work so long as the hole is a perfect circle. If you look at the stone at 8:31, it has a circular hole. Seeing stones typically allow the user to see through any manor of enchantments, so that might be why Mrs. Spink and Mrs. Forcible have it as a good luck charm. And one of them says "It's good for lost things," and that is exactly what seeing stones are typically used for.
So the stone is magic.
The mice are probably how the Other Mother (It feels weird calling her the Beldam) knew that Coraline was hungry. A doll isn't all that reliable, because what if the girl or boy didn't like dolls? I'm guessing she has her mice spy on them too, for when the doll isn't around.
Back to comment one; all magic comes from emotion.
I agree with you, when Coraline goes back to the other world for the last time. The Other Mother summoned one of her rats from the real world with the button key, that itself proves your theory.
I think the grandma can see the future and that's why she let's Coraline move in
Personally I believe the beldam is like a spider, such as she has extra legs, and around the end Coraline falls into a web, also the bugs in the ending scenes would make sense, only because a spider eats them. She also ate the bugs, and offered Coraline some while they were talking. Spiders are well known for their sewing of webs, which would explain the buttons and how she would sew them on. Her hands are clearly made of needles, which would kind of give as evidence. I think that the world the beldam fell into is already in the future and that would be how she knew about Coraline. That's how she made the doll, and somehow put it back into the real world, (or the present at that time) and put the doll there. For the parents being in the snow globe was simple, she took them from the future, but like the butterfly effect, since Coraline saved them, everything changed. They got home and the snow melted because what was supposed to happen was avoided. The key I'm pretty sure was only one because it was special to go in and out of the future, and present. I bet the cat CAME from the portal and that's why there is no replica with button eyes. The beldam never wanted to sew buttons on the cats eyes only because "eyes are the windows to the soul" and the cats eyes were the portals soul or world. Closing them up into buttons would be like sewing a tear closed which would close the portal. That's how the cat knew about almost everything. Sorry none of this makes sense lmao but idk its a theory.
that would also be why the cat knew about all the other mini portals
Mainly Bay yep
Mainly Bay may be thats the reason why she can der trough those buttons she has more then one eye
ok so I just rewatched it and I think you're wrong about the cat. Either you're partially correct in that he was the first child, but I think that he tried to escape by playing a game, and when he lost she tricked him and turned him into a cat. When Coraline goes back for her parents, he reluctantly offers this solution, but warns that she doesn't play fair. How else would he know this if all the other children willingly gave up their lives?
That or he's just a real cat, and never was one of the children. When it comes to magic and animals, many mythologies see cats as being guides and very knowledgeable about supernatural goings on. And black as a colour is seen to absorb magical energy. Meaning black cats are more magical than other coloured cats. So I think that the cat was there first, and became particularly powerful because of the source of magic there (when we first see the well it's literally a fairy ring, so I think the portal was there first, then the well was dug afterwards), and so the Bedlam hopes to harness the power of it through any means necessary - and this was back when things like slavery and killing natives was a ok, so what if the cat saw how many horrendous things she was doing and then trapped her in the other world, leaving her desperate for sources of magic. And then the cat became the guardian of the other world, which is why when we first see him he's trying to scare Coraline away from the well.
This also explains why the Bedlam has to be so sneaky when taking children, and is always feeding them food on every visit: something literally every legend says NOT to do when in a magical realm. Never accept gifts or eat food when there or you will be trapped there forever. Yet the children aren't, not until they decide to stay. Meaning the cat is probably interfering with this rule somehow. Guarding the door once they've gone in so that they can still find their way back out.
All this interference and the general nature if cats being guides and even protectors, is why someone like the Bedlam hates cats so much. (Something you didn't explain in your video)
But that's just my personal theory.
this also explains why at the end Wybie says that it wasn't his idea to "stalk" her and looks to the cat. If the cat was only Wybie's protector, then the cat wouldn't have endangered him like that. And since cats (magical or otherwise) can't do much in terms of direct interference, they often employ the help of humans to achieve their needs.
Also I think there are only the two portals, because the mice are shown to only use the door, whereas when the cat disappears in the sign post at the end, it's identical to how he moves around in the other world. So he's probably just a cat using the magic he absorbed from living in a gateway for so long. That and if you know how, you can bend space and reality slightly in places where the veil between worlds is thin. And considering that cats are knowledgeable about all things magic and this particular cat has no doubt been there for some time, he probably is very good at doing this - in either world.
It's also worth noting that everytime he bends space he's walking into, behind or through wood. Trees are seen to have a lot of magical energy, and in places where there is high energy in general, trees are what channel it out from the earth into everything else. Even a dead tree (or part of one) can be a conductor/channel.
+Kate Speaks I agree with what you're saying here. I feel like this fits best with the cats character. It just didn't make a whole lot of sense to me, if the cat was reincarnated. But if he was absorbing and living off magic like the beldam, that would make sense how he's still alive and knows so much about her and the other world. Cats are extremely intelligent beautiful creatures. They sense when things aren't as they seem. Hence him being the children's protector against the beldam and her ways.
I agree and when the beldam got older and bonier was because she didnt know she needed magic to survive
+Phoenix Tuve yeah the cat part wasn't sitting too well with me either.
+Phoenix Tuve it also would explain why the cat was hated so much by the beldam. If she needed the love of the "reincarnated child" then it's strange she would be so quick to condemn him
I think I can confirm the blue boy in the picture is the cat.
Coraline recalls the picture as "one boring blue boy" which simulates with the human like bright blue eyes of the cat. This may be a coincidence however coraline calls the cat a "big fat wuss puss" as to which he says again later in the movie "after all, im just a big fat wuss puss" just like the crying boy in the picture having the personality of a "wuss puss"
Charlotte Maguire i was thinking that!
your right.And you remember the picture of the blue boy in the normal house was sad.He was bored.And you can remember in the other house the boy was very happy.Maybe its the died boy because of the 'baldam'.
Yes! I just thought about that!
i never ever made that connection!!
yes ikr
My theory is that coraline is still stuck
When there in the garden at the end and it zooms out you can see the garden shaped as the other mothers face
He said that that garden was made by the beldam when she lived there but I'm not sure
and, the cat is only able to teleport and talk in the other world, at the end the cat teleports. And I also think wybie tricked coraline, because the mice was made out the same stuff he’s made out of and they are able to go in the real world
But wait. In your other theory, I don’t remember which, you said that the cat was relieved when it knew that coraline was planning to throw it in the well. In the end of the movie, she was happy and she thought she was safe. Apparently, I have put all the pieces together and found out that coraline is still in danger. This is how;
Since you have been saying that the well is another portal, the cycle seems to never end. You see, when she threw the key away with the hand into the well, it would have appeared back to the beldem. That way, the beldem got her hand AND the key. Which means coraline is still in danger.
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That makes so much sence because the gost children tell corlaine that she is still in danger
Talia Loves Art! No, she isn't in any danger. Beldam was trapped and weak already. Even if she made it to the key, she would not be able to go into the real world.
Talia Loves Art! I really want a sequel 😭
I just read your comment and I agree with that theory and the theory gave me goosebumps 😂🤣
Beldam said that the door has only one key and maybe this key is a magician key...coralin threw it away so i don't think that she's in danger...beldam sent her dolls from that door for the children but now there is no key and i think this things can't happen to any children but only for children who have a hard life or want more love and attention.
In the end coralin began to understand her parents more and even loved them more.
But honestly it's so scary to see this things and still live at that house.
So if the well is a portal, and at the end she drops the keep in it, then... uh oh
IKR thats what i was thinking
he explained that in part one I think, he said it symbolises sending the key back to where it comes from, it's different to coraline bringing the key with her
Spencer Martyn good question was about to ask 👍🏻
Spencer Martyn yep
Spencer Martyn that's what I was thinking
Something you may have missed. The Beldam's metal legs aren't just any legs - they are sewing needles.
Everything in the Beldam's world relates to sewing - cross-stitch, crochet, etc. This is probably important in how her magic works.
She can't create, but she can stitch things together to (perhaps) make something new.
maybe sewing had something important to do in her life before she fell down the well. and maybe it was partially the cause of why she fell down the well. that would explain why she is so attached to sewing
They're actually long seam rippers, her fingers are sewing needles
that it's actually a really good observation
Yeah, that's what I've seen. Also she turns the room into a spider web, and in her form she looks like a spider.
I kinda thought the spider thing was a play on the Black Widow but instead of husbands its children.
I think wybies grandma have been to the other world with her sister and then the chaos starts ballalal wybies grandma escaped and her sister didn't
-p.s i just think of this
thatoneTHINGcalled CHOCOLATE I agree with that
I agree with this
And that’s why she freaked out when whybie told her he was at pink place
Omg yes! That’s an excellent idea
I A GREE
The books make it clear that the Beldam really did want the children to love. However, magic and ghosts revolve a lot around emotions, trauma, and tragedy. What if the Beldam wasn't after eternal youth and magic (at first)? And what if the missing child of the timeline was not a victim of hers, but a child she had before falling down the well? There was plenty of time between 1852 and 1900 for the Beldam to begin. She may well have had a child in her twenties and fallen down with that child around the age of thirty. In the other world, she lives a quiet but peaceful life with her child. But the child may have eventually died. Her pain could have ties her to that world, leaving her unable to escape on her own.
The trauma of the loss and the binding to the world then causes insanity or delusion. She could even have began to rip herself apart in an attempt to rejoin her child. But her soul is trapped there. The child, not understanding any of it, may have bound their own soul to the world too. However, since they're already dead, it has a different affect; only children remember this place and are the only humans who can pass in and out of this world freely.
The Beldam senses the soul but is now void of the love she was once able to feel. She wants to love again, but she doesn't know how. She uses children in attempt to fill the void of lovelessness. Every time it doesn't work, her true form grows more monstrous. When she grows bored of the newest child, she devours them and the soul she now trapped makes her stronger. She may have assumed this brought her closer to loving again. That's when she attempts to take a fairy. More magic means more love, right?
The devouring never brings her closer to her goal, though.
The cat, now, could be the result of a non-button-eyed creature entering the world. A curious cat finds one of the mini portals. Cats and many other animals are sensitive to the paranormal. He accidentally absorbs a bit of the soul of the first child. Thus, he knows about what happened to the other children. He knows the Beldam's true nature. And he now knows he must protect the children near the Pink Palace.
But one of the biggest issues is the well. If it is another portal, wouldn't the key just have been returned to the Beldam? If that's the case, why didn't the hand attempt to drag Coraline down the well? Unless the Portal is closed by the key itself and can only be opened by the door. Once Coraline locked both doors, she locked the other world's larger portals and maybe even locked out the ability for nonliving things to pass through the portal like the key or the needle hand.
Of course, these are just guesses and assumptions that work better with how I saw the movie and not how everyone else sees it.
That's so true I haven't thought of that
That's true! I also think Beldam wanted the children to fight off her loneliness. At the end of the movie, when Coraline locks the door, Beldam screams "DON'T LEAVE ME HERE!" Maybe she kept the children's eyes not only for the magic but also so she could never be alone? Brilliant thinking on the thought of "...why didn't the hand attempt to drag Coraline down the well?". +KanaHyoshi
great way to think of it!
That would explain why the house is so big and why she uses children rather than adults
+Brooklyn Schreiner but it doesnt explain the fact of the room with the three childrens ghost did it use to be the childes or dod she put that for a slight comfort
Is it just me, or does the triangle thing look like the thing you use with a ouija board?
Clorox Bleach *shrug*
Clorox Bleach *illuminati confirmed* you look through it with your *eye*
+Sarah Moore (Sarah The Memer) dead meme
Clorox Bleach why are you everywhere I go when I watch videos??? It's creepy
it is, and since those are used to communicate with souls in our world they provided the sight of actual souls in coraline’s other world.
The Beldam creates the key becuase it's her way of allowing only kids to come in if she can see through buttons she knows who has the key for example when the mother opens the door for her the door is bricked up showing she didn't want the mother getting through and there's only one key because she can only have one child in at a time for example when grandmas sister went in she couldn't go after her she didn't know what toke her because she didn't have the key and the same thing that prevents adults from getting in is the same thing that prevents her because there can only be one child!... And key ... It was better if I just kept it at child xD
This gives me an idea not really a theory maybe however reads this can create one but coralline can't get her soul stolen if she's with her parents so maybe the other mother toke her parents so she couldn't be protected hye hyeeeeee =/ =\ >.
+samara bailey whoever I mean
+samara bailey took**
that's brilliant, I didn't even think of something like that!
This is makes a lot of sense 🤔
I agree with Wybie, he states that “if you fall down the well you’ll see a sky full of stars in the middle of the day”, there is no specific time in Coraline but it’s always night in the Other World and in the first scene the Beldam is making the doll and when she lets it go it’s night so if she is at the bottom of the well Wybie would be right
What if the well was the first passage way to the other world, and the Beldam created passage in the door on her own. If she built the house, she would know about the door, and be able to connect it to the other world. This would explain why the key had a button.
Or maybe she just went to a key market thingy and got it changed
It doesn’t seem like she created the tunnel. The tunnel throughout the book is given many lines that point to it being being a conscious space in of itself. A lovecraftian like being inhabiting the space between spaces. Such as even when the mother is locked in the other world. Coraline recounts feeling a presence in the tunnel with her, and the feeling that if she fell, it is likely she wouldn’t get back up again, hinting that the tunnel itself is somewhat conscious of her presence and has an agenda of its own. Even the cat is afraid of the tunnel. And despite the other mother coming to get him and Coraline , is hesitant about being in the tunnel and tells her they need to leave quickly.
Wait, instead of a mysterious child coming around the 1900s what if the Beldam didn't found a kid. What if, she give her own eyes first?
Think about it, even when the magical illusion is gone Beldam eyes are still buttons. Without magical illusion everything about her is revealed except for the Buttons.
Why would she want others to see her buttons eyes?
To normalize the idea of them in the eyes to the kids.
That also explains why she can see through the eyes the doll she uses as bait.
Envy Noson holy sh*t wow that's was good
Envy Noson I dunno
Envy Noson say that again
That would make sense. The only thing is the person who she would’ve given the eyes to. Who was the “mother” before her?
she sewed buttons in her eyes simply to stay alive.
sound like saw to me
I think that the button key might have also been a way of spying since it does have the button form and as you said anything the beldam put buttons on she could control. This might have explained why she could see coraline's lack of food and her wanting the gloves (when it was hung in the kitchen). as to why she only made one, that could tie in with the void. When she had plenty of magic she had one of the mice bring her a key and she fashioned it the way she needed it. Then as magic began to deplete, she was unable to make more. I think that could possibly explain the key questions. Great video btw!
wow
+Marlene Castorena Vasquez there can be more that one spying object
That might also be how she knew exactly where coraline would be at the end so she could get the key back.
Yeah what if one of the children accidentally went in with the key and then she altered it.
What if the cat went in with the key
And the reason there is only one key is because the mice could only obtain one because for a mouse to steal a key in the real world is very hard and you have to have fingers like a thumb..she would and can make other keys but she just doesn't have the material or the source she needed to make others
My theory of how the parents disappeared:
The parents had to go grocery shopping, when they did, they stopped by the well, when they were pulled down.
If Coraline is still stuck in this world of the Beldam, then perhaps the reason why nobody has button eyes is because that world has now transitioned into day? The beldam WAS able to disguise herself as Coraline's mother with no button eyes when Coraline came back to save her parents. Also, I noticed that as soon as Coraline shed her real world clothes and changed into the clothes the Other Mother gave her she was not able to return to her world by going to sleep. If anyone has seen the movie 'Spirited Away' Sen is told to eat something from the spirit world or else she'd disappear. She was also given her old clothes back which was when she remembered herself and her real name, Chihiro (with the bouquet note). It seems to be a common rule that once you shed any physical evidence of the world you originated from it becomes increasingly more difficult to return.
I literally saw that movie last night, it all makes so much sense.
If you've ever read the manga red river it's like that in it too she can't return home without the exact clothes she was wearing when she arrived there
i love love loveee spirited away. it's all starting to click in my head now... wonderful
You just blew my mind and I love Spirited Away
woah!
I don't like your theory that the cat is a reincarnation of the first victim as that conclusion is to sloppy and convenient considering you touched on something Ingenious with the Beldam. If i understand correctly your theory of the Beldam is that she fell into the pocket universe whose physics were mutable. She found a means to immortality but it required her to remain in the pocket realm. Now lets say the cat is the first victim who cannot be harvested, however unlike corraline, he hides within the realm rather than escaping. Just as she transforms herself as she grows in her knowledge of the mutability of the realm, so does he and even figures out how to cross over back to his world, the only problem with this is that he has to sacrifice his human form and take on a cat form and he has to return to the pocket universe so often to remain immortal like the Beldam. This limitation gives him the motivation to protect children she attacks, he failed the first three times and succeeds with coraline. With the beldam destroyed he remains in the real world to live out a mortal life as a cat.
Mmkay, tis just a theory.
i forgot about the fact that they dropped the key in the well and read a good comment below about the beldam would still have the Key, would still have power, just that coraline is lost to her. So i amend my statement about the cat being mortal and would say that he remains in his state waiting to protect the next victim.
Reuben Wetherill Watch my Coraline Part 6, you will see my response to that.
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i dont think the beldam can predict the future
because if she did.
she wouldn't have had played the game with coraline, seeing as she lost and she would have known coraline tricked her about the parents being behind the door
Sami wow yeah nice one
Prophecies are vague, man
Sami that's EXACTLY why I hate time travel in movies
but she didnt start losing her magic/power until Coraline came. Her powers became weaker. So, its possible she could have seen the future because she had so much power back then.
But here’s a thought for you :) what if Coraline never got home? What if she’s trapped in a sort of limbo within the other world?
I think that she "trapped" her parents so Coraline can go threw the door
awww... so cute
lol
If the beldam can see anything through button eyes what about Coraline's octopus that has a pink button for a eye
#bones000 YES!
#bones000 I’m scared i hv button eyes things in my house XD but still really good dude!!
Maybe that's how the beldam figured out coraline was there
I thought that when i watched the movie for the 2nd time, that was like 3 years ago XDDDDD
#bones000 it’s still buttons
Ever since I was I younger, this movie was always my favorite since its creepy and freaky but I happened to really like. I must've watched the movie a hundred times since it came out and each time I pay attention to when the cat days she eats children, she thinks they taste good, she likes to eat their souls, etc. So after a while, I noticed the tunnel or portal look odd. I then thought it might've resembled her esophagus. Tus meaning that when the children enter the other world she consumes them. I haven't gotten to really thinking about this part yet, but I believe that might connect to why she always greets coraline (and the other children) with food as soon as they come through the portal.
I agree! That is so smart. I hadn't thought of it that way. That would make sense that it would be her esohphagus.
Oohhhhhh Really Cool
That's probably the smartest theory yet, you're very smart! I honestly think that this should be spoken in the next theory that the theorizer does!
The beldam could be giving the children food to fatten them. Like Hansel and Gretel. Noticing that the dead children in that room have normal, skinny bodies. The beldam could be giving the victims food to make the children bigger to eat them when they get fat enough.
+Trisha Heinrichs Just my take on things
When wibie tells Coraline when you fall in this well and you look up you see the sky fill stars in the middle of the day and it is always night time at the bedlam's place
Can people please like this
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Idk if you said this but what if the picture near the entrance is the ghost boy from 1936
Ok I'm rewatching the movie and I noticed that there is a ring of mushrooms around the well. I thought this was interesting so I looked some stuff up on the Internet, and found that it was an old belief that fairies made the mushroom rings, and if a mortal human ever entered the ring, they would be transported to a different place and trapped there. This could be why there is magic in the beldam's dimension and why the well is a portal. What if the well wasn't always a well but was closed off so that no one would fall into the portal like the beldam?
YOURE A GENIUS.
Wow you really did research huh
I legit just commented something like this😂
I once read a book that had a "fairy ring" in it and in the book you have to kneel down and make a wish but I don't know if that means anything and it could explain as the theoriser said that that the beldam once desperately took a fairy for its magic, maybe while they were making the"fairy ring".
That's a reference to the fairy. Mushroom rings are fairy protection spells.
I shouldn't be watching this at like 1 in the morning
same here......... lol
2 a m :/
it's 11:34 for me and ive never seen the movie
it's 2:00 am now
Lol it's 2 in the morning :)
Ashland? Pfft, it's obvious the film takes place in Gravity Falls.
True lmao
Nice 😂
ah lol
that would explain the spider lady from that one episode
Why is it always Oregon for scary movies or shows with mystery wtf
I live near Ashland, and this is frickin scary. Where my Oregonians at?
Is there a real pink mansion, I'm asking out of curiosity.
The guinea pig girl bend here :)
i thought you said argonians
Am I the only one who’s noticing a pattern with weird things in cartoons happening in Oregon? Like this is the third one I’ve found and I don’t watch many cartoons/movies
Right here! And I kind of flinched when he said Ore-GON. Haha.
I can only guess that the Beldam made the key so that no other person could stumble on the door. For example, adults. Children would have treated the thing like sacred treasure. They would have kept it to themselves.
What about age? Can the Beldam feed off of pre-teens?
I have this little idea floating around my head after you pointed out a missing victim. I don't think the first victim is the cat but it's owner. So let's say this kid owned a black cat, they were tight as hell. His family moves into the Pink Palace. As you said this was the period where the Bedlam was desperate for magic HOWEVER, the boy isn't a child. He's a teenager with parental issues (because we all have them at some point). Teenagers are harder to fool than children but the Bedlam was in real need for a soul so she tries to trick the boy.
Since the Beldam can apparently shape shift, she must have taken a form that could lure him in and she did. However the boy always took with him his cat to feel secure. The Beldam must have let him keep it, thinking it would do no harm as long as she got the boy. But cats and other animals often react to danger and even the supernatural at times. The boy took this as a warning and acted polite around the Beldam. I bet he refused all sorts of things. You can trick a child with anything but a teenager is a little warier of the world. He wants to leave but he was also curious of the other world. His curiosity would have been his downfall. He should have left while he still could but he might have discovered something in the Other world.
Frustrated and desperate, the Beldam was forced to show him her true form to take his soul but she wasn't able to because the boy held something that she couldn't risk be taken. The Fairy, the one thing that still kept the Other world and her alive. She had been using it as a substitute for souls but she couldn't live off it completely. If he freed the fairy before she could capture him, she and the Other World could crumble. The boy was in the same predicament and both sides waited with bated breath to see what the other would do. The Beldam proposed a game then like she did with Coraline. If he won, he may leave but he must leave the fairy. If she won, he stays. Reluctantly, he agrees. With what little naivety he had he agreed, believing that the rules of the Other World must be obeyed, not knowing that the Beldam was it's creator and it followed her will. He couldn't have known better because he had no one to guide him other than his loyal companion and wit.
The bitch cheats of course and tries to kill him anyway but he somehow manages to get out of there alive without his cat. The fairy and his cat had given him time to escape. Tis truly a sad time and he mourned for his lost friend. Back in the other world though, the Beldam was causing hell, furious that her victim had escaped but was consoled that she had the fairy at the very least. What she did not know was that the fairy imbued the cat with magic, giving it longevity and intelligence. Before being taken away back to its prison, the fairy had told the cat of another entrance to the Other world. The well. The cat leaves through the well and searches for its boy. When it finds him, it takes him back to the well. The boy realized that his cat had undergone a change. He also realized what his cat wanted him to do and boarded the well up entirely, hopefully to seal the Beldam forever.
Shortly after they move out. Seeing that his cat does not age, the boy, now a man now, asks that his old friend would look after his children. The cat does so.
Its one way to explain why the cat stayed near Wybie. BUT HEY. It's just a thought XD I didn't expect to go this long lmao
mind blow, great theory man!
you should be an author
I don't have much to support it tho but thanks you guys :)
+Black Fulminata Woah...
That was a pretty good assumption on what may have happened....nice
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The theory of the well makes perfect sense. Not only the fact that it looks similar to the portal with the door, but how else would the cat continue to go through the portal at the end of the movie.
Explanation: At the end of the movie, Wybie and Coraline attach the key to the rock and throw it down the well which is supposedly the other world. That would mean that the Beldam has the key and still has power. Therefore, the other world still exists and the Beldam is not dead. Besides, the cat wouldn't be able to go through the portal unless there was something on the other side.
The portal in the beginning of my comment is the well lol sorry
Actually yes it makes so much since! That's why in my opinion they make another "Coraline." With Coraline's daughter but they still live in Oragon. The other mother takes Coralines daughter. It just makes the most since that the daughter gets attacked to. After all, Coraline gets taken and throws the key in the well, proves the other mother still has access. So PT. 2 of Coraline will be my life! 💎💙😄😊😍😘😁
Its *Oregon fam
i love to write stories and I'm actually working on a part 2. its not her daughter tho, it is her great nieces. I'm only on the 4th chapter XD I might publish it when I'm done.
EXACTLY!
im really regretting having watched this video in the middle of the night. I love this movie and all but it never fails to give me nightmares...
So true
definetly
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Yeah this movie is pretty creepy..
haha😂😂
8:03 the beldam also said "see you sewn" as in she was planning to sew buttons in her eyes
I just thought she said see you soon lol
I think that the doll is actually a voodoo doll. It had two faces, both with buttons. The doll looked exactly like Coraline's parents: every facial detail. So? That means that the beldam could actually see through its eyes. Where could the parents go? I suppose that the beldam used the doll and controlled them, and then she locked them in the void. I guess that's why the parents stand in the mirror, freezing: because the void is empty: no heat, no sunlight, nothing. So she stuffed them into a snow globe. That's honestly what I think about the doll.
Nightcore Songs yeah but if they are voodoos then they should have been burning instead of freezing because she burned the doll in the fire place
Zainboss Gaming yea thats true
then when she gets back and the snow globe is broken her parents come home
Nightcore Songs I so didn't see your comment and wrote the same thing 😂
Nightcore Songs if it was a voodoo doll then they would have been burned to death when coroline burned it
The Theorizer PLEASE READ THIS--------Question 11- The Beldam fell through a well when she supposedly discovered the house. She then found a void in that well. Soon after, a family with a little girl moved in and the Beldam felt lonely so she lured the girl into the well and she fell in love with the girl. It was harder for the girl to throw herself down the well everyday so the Beldam formed a small door large enough for a child. Because the Beldam didn't want adults following there children through the door, she made it so that the girl could only enter when her parents were sleeping or out. She Started to lose magic so she convinced the girl to sew buttons into her eyes. She still made more for them to do but lost more magic. She used up the last of her magic to create a key to the other world. That used up the last of her magic and didn't have enough to make another. She could not eat because of how much magic she lost and without her magic, she could not spawn food. She decided to find natural food. Since there was nothing for her or the child to eat she may have decided to spend there last days together. She trapped the girls eyes earlier on and therefore her soul. She chose the eat the child as the girl was getting too old. She felt so much magic in her that she was more excited to send a doll and the key back to the real world. As she spent so much magic forming a key she didn't want to waste so much more when she could use that magic to form the new child's interests. The key also had a button on it to resemble her eyes and it might have also been her backup for the doll as she would have been able to see through the dolls eyes. She at have also used the button on the eyes for keeping an eye on what was going on in the real world. MY THEORY. SORRY IF WRONG. THIS CAME FROM EVIDENCE FROM THE MOVIE AND BOOK AFTER I MIXED IT WITH MY OWN THOUGHTS.............
this is similar to his original theory, video number one
i mean, if the well has a portal, then they throw the key into the well, Coraline basically just gave the key back to the Beldam.
Coraline 2 confirmed?
Maybe both the grandmother and her sister met the other mother when they were little, and the grandmother escaped but left her sister. That must explain why she knew that the pink palace was dangerous even though it said that nobody knows what happened to her, and why she never let her grandson go there.
Or maybe the cat helped her escape too like he helped Coraline and her sister didn't listen to him. Also the grandmother could have asked the cat to look after her grandson so he doesn't try to sneak into the palace, I'm pretty sure a grandmother wouldn't let their grandson play with a stray cat for no apparent reason unless she wants him to get rabies or something idk but that's my theory
Well you think she'd try to contact coraline more, maker sure she's not getting into it. Or make sure she knew the dangers
or maybe gradmother new that coraline could escape and kill the beldam and so she thought that if coraline kills the bedam then it be gone forever
totaldrama fan I don't see a way she could possibly know that
+bazookabullet101 Well there's the doll that looked like Coraline, and the grandma was twins with the girl. Most people think twins are connected spiritually so maybe the dead twin knew about the doll and when she saw it was an actual person through her sister, she let her hope of freedom flow to her sister, compelling her to let Coraline move in. Just a thought.
im glad im not the only one who wondered how her parents got taken because remember its the real parents so what did the other mother do just run through the door and grab them? glad you covered it.
One thing that I noticed is that the grandma hid the doll from coraline in her trunk because she knew that coraline was there and if coraline got anywhere near the doll that she would be immediately summoned to the other world. And of course the grandma knew this due to what happened to her little sister that quote o quote dissappeared. And of course she just told wyborne that she was stolen because she didn't want him to be parinoid. But wyborne was being stupid so he brang the doll to coroline starting all this mess that could have been prevented if he just stayed back.
And this, children, is why we must listen to our elders!
XD
wow
Whaaaaaaat!!!
awesome puffer that is an amazing thought I actually agree with that statement but I don't really think this is ALL Wybornes fault (I mean he mad a HUGE mistake of giving the doll to Coriline)
But if Coriline didn't even go to the "pink palace" this
wouldn't have even happened
But I really had another theory...
I thought coraline was a girl with abusive mother and passif father, therefore, she wants to escape her reallity. But she met a psychologist (the cat) who help her get through this hell.I thought the bottons was about denial, to represent the fact that either she gives up and decide to shut her eyes from the truth or continue her quest and live her real life. I also thought that the mother was represented as someone who is a manipulator, therefore she would "sew" the people as she wants them to be. People's are her dolls. It also explains her spider-like look. The only key could represent the hope or that "drawe key" in your mind. anyway, there are so many symbols and i feel they can all match. One last thing is, at the end of the movie, it is written something like : "for those who unerstands ..." and there is a kind of password. this movie has a message.
Well i thought it is like the final step of her therapy. See the truth through her mom.
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oh I get it now thanx
oh I get it now thanx Emma Ayotte🖒
ok, so after reading some comments (especially +buzzkill 78 ) I thought i should give my stance on the whole "wouldn't the key go back to the other mother?" question. The beldam found the world by finding the well, and believing the myth of fairies granting wishes in mushroom circles. She was bored with her reputable life, and wished for a life more entertaining. The fairy granted this wish, and made a pocket universe for the beldam. The passage was through the well. Once the beldam understood the rules of the universe, the same fairy made a way out since the beldam cannot go up a well. However, the beldam seemed to have cruel intentions (wanting to live forever in the pocket universe) and the fairy witnessed the first try at getting a child's soul. The fairy manifested a key to keep the beldam inside, and children out. (after all, when someone makes a key, it is to keep someone from going INSIDE, not outside. think when had you locked your door with a key, from the inside?) The second child unknowingly gets the key, and travels into the universe, and then the next child, and the next child do the same.
then when coralline throws the key down, the key doesn't work for the beldam because there isn't a way to unlock the lock from the inside. she's trapped,
I really like this theory
+Alex Sanchez you deserve an award for this. amen
wow that is actually a good theory
i wondered about that myself
Idk if u have said this cause I'm new but...
I realize that the sand she uses is actually magic?! She transformes rats into those jumping mice. At the beginning of the movie she puts the sand stuff in the doll, which allows her to maybe look into the other world without going into the world.
Cupcake Dog I think the sand is typical voodoo magic. The buttons are how Beldam sees everything.
The question about there being one key. As stated, she created the portals. So, that key at the beginning WAS HERS. Boy ( CAT ) escaped TAKING the key with him and closing the door. THIS is why we see her going as far as to SWALLOW it, so it never leaves again!
Lizzy Ramer your so right 👏👏
Wait. If the Pink Palace was created in or around 1852, it wouldn't have been made for the Beldam. Women couldn't live on their own in that time period. Which means that a man would have been with her when she went to Ashland. I assume it would be her husband, instead of a brother or father. If that's the case, what happened to the Beldam's husband?
Ceara Okeefe He could be the father in the other world. That's a great point.
Maybe her husband pushed her in?to the well? Or potentially a child of hers? It might be the reason she went after children in the web world
Ceara Okeefe maybe she killed the other father and like he said she’s forcing him to do everything he does and that was her husband
@Caitlin Casanova. I don’t think that the other father was her husband this being that in countless theories it was mentioned that the other father and other Wybie were made out of Soul Sand. They don’t have proper feelings but they are made from the souls of the children ( a very tiny fragment is made from the children) but this means that they help coraline in the end. Your theory is interesting but I’m afraid not true
@Jenny Rubio woah
I thought she took children because she had a miscarriage. She took they're eyes because her late child didn't get to see the world. Why buttons? I think it was because she created clothing. Mainly purses I believe. Because in the tunnel they're we're mostly bags. The reason why they're was only one key is because it probably came with a huge price. (Her skin for example) the gardener(representing coraline's father) was probably her late husband. And that's all I got.
OMG OMG SHE RAN OUT OF SKIN to make her purses
SHE IS A HUMAN SAWING MACHINE
BBbunny it could also be of that buttons are easy to find so the other mother uses the magic in the other world to see anything with buttons. Also you cant make things from scratch so she needs to use somthing already made. So she uses the buttons. Plus she is obsessed with the yarn and string for sewing. And by a other commenter the stated that the spider Corlind got stuck in was made from the yarn/string. The Theoriszer ( im pretty sure I said his name wrong ) also said it was " sew - able". She probably also did have kids but I didn't think the beldam uses buttons because she had kids and made clothes for them. But you have your opinion and I have my opinion. thats all I can tell you for right now
Melisa Lorena Uysal I disagree
Melisa Lorena Uysal that can not happen in real life. In my opinion I belive there is no way she can be a human sewing machine. Even if you are using this " saying " as a joke I still disagree.
But here is one thing i never got even when i was a kid. Did the Beldam turn into other kids Mom's to look like them or did she always just look like Coraline's Mom or maybe when they saw how cool and nice she was they thought she was a better Mom even tho she looks nothing like their Mom but if anyone and make a theory for me on that even the theorizer i just wanna know i just honestly think she transforms or something like that to look like other childrens Moms btw did she always look like that when she lived there like a hundred years ago cause if she did why did she look lije Coraline's mother but deformed it was like she was waiting for Coraline all these years and finally found her the day she moved into the pink palace this just doesn't add up its going to take a lot of ppl to figure out how this Coraline thing works.
T Spence yeah i’ve always wanted to know that too
@T Draws
She transforms into other kids mom.
The way she appears at the end (after revealing herself to Coraline) is how she had always looked, well minus all the metal replacement parts of course. When a family moves into the house, she decorates
her pocket dimension to look just like the Pink Palace does (furniture, wall paper, etc.) and then alters her own appearance to look like the new victims victim's mother. She does all this because, even though times have changed and all children now adays know stranger danger, even back in the early 1900's most kids would at least be slightly wary about trusting and believing some random stranger who's living on the other side of a tiny door in your living room. It would be much easier to immediately gain the child's trust by just convincing them that, "Everyone has an other mother." Add to that the fact the Beldam was able to offer the kids everything they could want and desire but did not have from the real world, then tells them they could stay forever...
This is precisely why it is so important for all parents to teach their children as soon as possible, that other mothers don't exist, and while they may think their life is awful and sucks that they should actually be grateful and enjoy the hell out of it cause it's only gonna get worse...
Lol hope that last part isnt taken seriously by too many...
no she transforms into the other kids mother because that’s how she lures them into her world
This video creeps the CRAP out of me😂
Same
Yoh I can't sleep
Watching the movie will never be the same for me EVER again!!
Kevin C ya it’s night her for me and it’s creeping the shit out of me
I always that why Carolin other mom was ugly and weird and suspicious
my theory about why Caroline's family was allowed to move in to the Pink Palace is because the grandmother was kind of waiting for her. If there was about a 50 year difference between the grandmother's sister being taken,and Coraline coming into the house then somewhere between that time We see the doll getting reconstructed to look like Coraline. What if it happened many years before when the grandmother was younger, and she found the doll that look like Coraline. Realizing something was wrong with that doll since she no longer could find the one that our sister had. She probably kept it and it states in the movie Wybie found it in his house, so if the grandmother met the family prior as most landlords do she musy have seen that the doll was identical to Coraline. She probably knew that that Coraline was the next intended victim for whatever took her sister, but instead of sending Coraline mostly likely to be sacrificed maybe she saw Coralines personality when she met her, and that she believed Coraline might be able to end it all because Caroline doesn't act like somebody that would just roll over and play dead at the first sign of getting what she wants.
Your theory is correct
This is predictable
That she what
+SHQ05 that she: maybe had the potential to kill the beldam?
yes!! makes a lot of sense🌼
Maybe the boy with ice cream on the wall is the cat.
Kiele Magalengo possibly
thats what i thought too!
Kiele Magalengo wow, good one
I thought that too
They both have blue eyes which I think is an important factor. Especially considering eyes are a big deal in Coraline.
I think the Coraline doll is the other mother's only way to see and probably move around in the real world. Let me explain the doll keeps vanishing so mabye when Coraline is not looking the Beldam controls the doll and listens to Coraline and what she wants. I think she does do that because in the other father song he says "Mom and I will never make it boring." So what if she's doing that to make Coraline stay and to make her happy so she stays?🤔
That triangle thing look more like the ouija board thing witch is why she can see souls looking through it
Niaya. Girl YASS!! Just realized that!! Fucked up
Niaya. Girl it looks like illuminate
Niaya. Girl you are actually right this happens in some new horror movie (it sucks, but still) "Ouija Origin of Evil" or something.. but it can work
It called an oracle :)
omg mabye but I didn't even notice that XD
Maybe the key is giving the child a sense of power over the other world, like it makes them feel like they have power over it when in reality they have little to no control over it?
I havent seen the movie in a long time, so i'm probably wrong.
+!nquisitiv3 I love this movie and actually I think your right
+!nquisitiv3 Yeah, 're watch the movie, because I just did and it seems plausible
maybe the bedlam turns into the doll at night because the mom and dad are with her at night before she goes to bed and when the doll was under the bed that's the only time you see her going through the door in the middle of the day
the key can also apply to a specific portal, the door. the key acting as a point of curiosity and thus as bait to lure kids into the other world.
In the novel, it mentions Coraline having a grandmother and maybe the reason why the Beldam kinda looks and sounds familiar to her own mother is because maybe she IS the grandmother in spirit form.
You mean her twin? No she died. And we saw her soul in the movie
I meant CORALINE's grandmother not Mrs Lovat. Two different people. She's mentioned in the novel when Coraline's parents moved her old furniture in the drawing room of the apartment.
hm... maybe it's another hidden clue? then again there are similar characters on animated films that developers intend to do just maybe... for symbolism or some sort, just like Horrax (in his video explanation) but they didn't have any blood or real connection. But if you say so, does that mean her grandmother who built and owned the house before Mrs Lovat's parents even own the house? If so then the house wouldn;t be "rented" by Caroline but a "heritage" for her family just like Mrs Lovat's parent's for hers
kyota75 That could explain why Mrs Lovat allowed Coraline and her parents to move in despite having the rule that couples with children weren't allowed to rent the apartment.
oh... yeah make sense. but, who knows? maybe The Theorizer would explain about it or proves us wrong ;)
When coraline asks for food and clothing I think It was the mice who are well hidden