@@cardenas8995 actually many of them were produced till late sixties and even seventies and after that most of them were preserved in special warehouses in lubricant. It was stored there until early 90's, when most of them were sold, because nobody had money in former USSR countries. But some of them managed to stay safe in those warehouses till those days. So it is just like brand new. And you can easily find ammunition for it, because it uses stock 9mm parabellum bullets, which are popular today too.
This is a true journalism. Go to see with your own eyes, speak to locals, visit different locations. Professional, profound and true video report. Thank you, guys, for your courage and humanism.
I love these Ukraine dispatches its been a journey watching it from when it first started to now and how far the conflict has come. Please keep them coming.
Pavel J I do, But there's something about Vice that i just prefer over any other news channel. I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this statement but they seem very unbiased and try their best to just show it how it is.
How do you figure that? It's like me trying to describe America and picking only some criminal and gopnik types. Different people have joined the Rebellion for totally different reasons. And the Rebellion itself is just the tip of the iceberg. Like yesterday I'm watching a perfectly neutral travel blog about my beloved Kharkov and they're showing the former Dzerzhinsky Square and there it is- Petlyura's red and black flag! So they destroyed the statue of Lenin because it was traumatizing them but they don't give a rat's ass that that frigging flag is traumatizing us. End of story.
IN 2022 , this is all now deemed , " Russian Propaganda" , by NATO and the USA ! facts no longer matter to Western Media or society. All of this is now a big Russian Lie. Whoopie Goldberg would want to put the journalist in jail, for telling this side of the story, that is where the USA is right now
I have watched this russian roulette series in full now in 2024, just watched some of them back in 2014/15. Im 10 years older and i can really say now that this is the most impressive war-reporting i have ever watched. This series is history-«book» worthy! Largely unbiased, voices from both sides, frontline reporting, background information, filming the horrors of wars. Good job Vice, this is your best series and one of the best by media ever when it comes to war coverage.
That grenade launcher is an AGS-30, production started in 1995, and only used by 5 countries in the world none of which start with a letter "U". At this point, you can't doubt there's any Russian involvement, but you can't doubt there's not Western involvement as well. Both sides' grunts know that the cease-fire never works, and it's always alternating hands on who is firing into one another's territory breaking the ceasefires. It's a vicious cycle at this point, one side will always retaliate for the actions of the other. Civilians will always die, and both sides will be to blame. In this war, there's no right or wrong, just whoever you favor - Russia or the EU.
HowYaDoingMon It's more or less logistical supplies, not direct weapon and troop intervention like Russia. Some countries are coming up with the idea for weaponry support, but thus far I haven't seen anything.
CobraFlying Oh for the love of God, so if a rebel had an M4 or a Polish AK you would say US is arming the rebels or Poland is invading Ukraine? What if they bought some Chinese grenade launchers or Turkish pistols? There are parts of the world, many of them very close to Ukraine, where you can buy just about any common weapon if you have the money, and guess what: WEAPON DEALERS LOOK FOR CONFLICTS WHERE THEY CAN SELL WEAPONS, if you have a war or even a local conflict there are thousands of people from all sorts of different countries that show up ready and willing to sell a large selection of all sorts of stuff ... at an inflated price maybe, but THATS WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING.
@@jellyeigenwijsneus3855 yes they are. It is happening since the battle started. And the ukrainian thinks that all civilian living in the war zone are supporting the pro russians and to break the backbone and discouraging them from any future movement they are not fighting a psychological war with them.
@@bacaps3rgaming631 No, NATO will not help Ukraine!! Because if they do so, it will be war against Russia=WW3. And nobody wants war against nuclear power state like Russia.
Rebels do not have these types of weapons because they cannot buy them or use them. It takes a year to learn how to use artillery with any accuracy. And it takes a trained unit to operate. And these "rebels" never run out of shells. These "rebels" never run out of food or fuel. These "rebels" have better logistic skills then fedex. Rebels go home at night, these men never leave. Rebels suffer without food, these men never go hungry. And most of these "rebels" killed or captured were russians on vacation. My point is that i doubt any offensive "rebels" are from Ukraine. I think the real rebels from Ukraine see little to no fighting. I think these well trained fighters we see now are russians who are better supplied than Ukraines National Gaurd are all elite russian forces.
Бля чувак, есле бы Россия действительно воевала с Украиной ,Украина не продержалась-бы и 2-3 дней иммено столько надо чтобы доехать на урале с одной до другой её части.
***** I'm gonna guees from your username that you're nothing but a troll but i'll reply anyways. 90% of the "separatist" are actually Russian civilians. There are hundreds of recruitment stations in
***** Putin has stated that there's thousands of Russian troops on "vacation" in Ukraine and it's not his problem if they decided to fight for the rebels. Putin needs to man up and stop being a fucking pussy. Just like at the start of this conflict when there were thousands of troops taking over Ukrainian military bases and they were all wearing the same uniform. Once again Putin said they weren't Russian troops. There is also an article that has an instagram of a well known Russian Alpha Group member showing him with weapons in Ukraine. That means there's Russian special forces fighting as well.
felt really bad for the old lady, survived one o the most terrific things in the human history and now has to go trough similar shit in her last years...
***** Bombing schools and hospitals does sound like destroying infrastructure. Bombing buildings filled with innocent people does sound like trying to start a chaos. So to me it seems that Ukraine just doing whatever it takes to make the region unlivable. No matter the cost. Also calling everyone there a terrorist sorta helps to boost the morale.
***** It's all related to how I feel about this situation. I understand that separatists could bomb them too. Just like America could have done the 9/11. But in both cases I find it hard to believe.
@@XxLadrxX i like how you like your own comments just to make sure in your mind that someone could support your unproved opinion with your giant ego...smh
Simon unbalanced? He saw those people for what they really are. Torturing and kidnapping terrorists. And this guy is clearly is biased towards those thugs. Asks citizens implying it was ukranian shells. You don`t do that unless you are from RT. They can`t possibly know.
***** maybe his reports became balanced because he is afraid of getting kidnapped and tortured agAin, so he just plays along with the rebels ballox/rubbish talk. please open them eyes, good woman!
If you believe there is no Rus troops in Ukraine, you are blind. Also, look back in history. Germany(WWll Era) "liberated" a small patch of land near Germany's border. Countries in Europe(like England) said to Germany(I'm using exaggeration) Wtf are you guys doin? Germany said the little population on that small land was mostly German and wanted to be w/ Germany. Germany did it about 2-3 more times w/ the same excuse, and then Blitzkrieg ed Poland, thus, starting WWll. **On a side note** Rus has taken small portions of Georgia.
***** who the hell told you that? have you actually seen how it looked like? you can look it up how it looked like before the US ''intervention''. same goes to afganistan
Sorry, but correction. Russia never took any part of Goorgia, there are a frozen conflict there and was since 1991 after USSR collapsed, two regions in Georgia declared independence, they were not recognized as USA didn't want it. So they still unrecognized regions, they are not a part of Russia neither Georgia.
12:30 Igor is asked a direct question by the reporter - "When the DNR forces were moving forward yesterday, were they trying to take Maripol? Propaganda response, "We are just holding a defensive position, we're not attacking? Only in Russia does moving forward = "defensive".
"In the future, we will go to Mariupol" - please remember what he says because right now there are no fights in Mariupol, nobody is getting killed there. The citizens of Mariupol see themseves as ukrainans and don't want to be part of DNR (Simon Ostrovsky showed it in previouse dispatches!)
I lived a few years in that area. Winter are cold as FUCK. I really hope that someone actually starts thinking about the people that have nothing to do with this war.
I find it hilarious how Simon talked mad shit about Russia and got kidnapped. Now he hides behind the Ukrainian army watching them retreat while this reporter gets some real action.
Reporting and "talking shit" are 2 different things. It's not Simon's fault that the separatists kidnap and threaten to kill anyone who doesn't show them in a positive, biased light.
BiGKiDXavieR Holloman What he did was express opinion and his personal feelings. Some of the most unprofessional reporting I have ever seen. Anyone with common sense and at least an elementary education could tell he was biased.
SaproPhycs Derpy link to him lying about being from "Moscow television"? I have watched all dispatches as they came out and I can't remember this happening, he always said he worked for "Vice news, internet news agency".
I hope people realize this situation has gone far beyond trying to figure out who is in the right and who is not. The important thing is that it stops.
Vice News headed north of Donetsk to the town of Yasynuvata to check on reports that the town had come under fresh artillery fire that left residents living in their basements and without basic amenities. Flight MH17 Broke Apart When Hit by High-Energy Objects, Report on Ukraine Crash Finds: bit.ly/1qC2SBC
Birdy Cephon actually in this context it refers to shrapnel, not bullets. The particular anti aircraft technology that is suspected to be the cause of this is designed to explode close to the aircraft, shredding it with shrapnel, more damage that way.
i also think vice is doing a good job covering both sides of the war fairly and not bullshitting like fox news cnn rte sky news keep up the good work guys and girls
The civilians and separatists don't know this, but the shelling of their structures is an attrition technique... The town is held by separatists. It gets shelled because of their presence. The civilians are supposed to kick them out... If you could stop your town from getting swathed by artillery by kicking out squatting vagrants, would you do it? That is the plan...
Keston Hurd Seriously.The people of Donbass do not give a shit about which flag they're flying.They just want the military to leave.Unfortunately,they are being suppressed,scared into their cellars to hide from GRAD fire.
No, I don't. I'm a Ukrainian by blood, my surrogate brother, Ivan Prikhod'ko, the Mayor of Gorlovka, is Ukrainian as well and we're both Rebels. Are you seriously trying to imply that every Ukrainian is or should be in bed with Zelensky and his Azov scum?
@@tatianalyulkin410 There are 2 sides the Ukrainian forces and the rebels. It should be pretty obvious that when a person is saying that the Ukrainians need better equipment they refer to the country.
LOL... This guy is the Ultimate Commie Badass! He's rockin nothing but a beret, a tank top, and his trusty yet horribly inaccurate PPSh-41. What a commendable bad ass, he's like a Russian Texan or something lol.
This war makes no sense. They should have had an official referendum organized by OSZE. Would have saved many lifes. These areas who are inhabited by majority of russian natives are lost for ukraine. There is no way that they will rule over this area again. The people who live there are against them. Even if they retake the area under military control they will still be attacked by separatists from the underground backed by the majority of native russian people. Russia is not officialy going into the terretory cause it doesnt want an escalation war in whole east europe. And they have no reason to take any territory that is not inhabited by majority of russian people. Russia as the EU/US are liars and the loosers are the people who just want to live their daily life in freedom. Interesting will be larger citys like Mariuopol who are 50/50 russian and ukrainian.
I see here many comparison between Simon and Henry who one is better in reporting. Both are good and Henry significantly improved the but is one basic difference between them Simon understands more what is going on with political and historical point. Those people detect this so they try to tell a fairy tale to Henry. More reliably is Simon's reporting
This guy and his team, as well as your other Ukraine correspondent deserve a serious pay rise and some recognition within the journalistic community, their bravery is amazing.
I wish one side would win this war already. If these people in the east love Russia so much, why don't they move to Russia? Why create all this unrest?
Henry, you are brave and I thank you for your excellent service in putting clarity into a murky situation - however, I start to fear that you are too brave sometimes. Please, just ease off 10%. Artillery shells can't read those "press" signs.
Showing these videos to Western audience is a failure, they don't understand the specifics of this regions, hell, most people in the west can't locate their city on the map.
Well your are technically correct i mean to make an true documentary you needed to show the different perspectives of each side, i hope both Ukraine and Russia are at peace
The Kiev army has been shelling citizens indiscriminately, I won't even start by questioning where DNR/DPR got their weapons from because they have all the rights to get better equipments to DEFEND themselves against such an aggression. All I can say is go DPR/DNR! You are the true freedom fighters fighting for your ideology, beliefs, and the people!
@@dennisjohnson7779 It goes a lot deeper than that. Yesterday I found out that a Ukrainian movie studio made a movie about Simon Petlyura- the thing whose scum almost lynched my great grandfather and raped my grandmother. And Blinken, Nuland and Zelensky stood by and let it happen. There is no common ground between us. And even if Donbass falls, it's gonna change bubkes. End of story.
After the close call here, we headed out... To a place, rumored to have heavy shelling and firefights, into the depths of hell. "Don't you love vice for putting themselves in danger to get a accurate documentation of these professions.
It seems to me like the Ukrainian leadership really doesn't want this to end, they don't supply their own troops with the proper equipment to wage a war and they don't seem like they are sending in support troops. The DNR does not look like they are only 1/2 commited they are all in and anything less by the Ukrain leadership is just sad and i feel sorry for the Ukrainian people who have a paper tiger leader like Poroshenko
6:30 "Осетия". Osetians are proud of their presense. Russian modern granade launcher, rebel group leader with WW2 machine gun, rocket shelling few meters near british journalist. 13:22 "За Ростов", "For Rostov" (russian city) on the medal, "Вежливые люди" ("Polite people") on T-shirt, it's russian paramilitary organization.
What I hate the most about this series is that every time Ukrainians or Russians speak they chose what to translate and what literally not to write subtitles for as if she didn’t say anything or said something completely different with their intonation, it’s pretty blunt bias.
13:13 "There are no Russians here," Meanwhile, there is a brand new cargo truck with an obvious Russian flag on it sitting right there in the background. SMH...
@@Andrey-Lyan understand that my comment was more than 6 years ago my guy. My views and opinions have changed since then. But thanks for your 2 cents ill add it to my collection 🤙
@@СергейСальченко На майдане захватить правительственные здание это просто будни, а все те разрушения что принесла армии украины это просто ужасно , там действительно магазины не работали долгое время (гуманитарная катастрофа)
Since about the time of the Russian humanitarian aid convoi the rebels have been pushing back Ukrainian troops on most fronts. There were also up to three encirclements where a lot of Ukrainain troops and volunteer battalions were entrapped. Right up to the "ceasefire" it looked like the rebels were encircling Mariupol to take it from Ukraine.
Prepping Teen I'd say it's a stalemate, neither side is winning and it's just a bit of a mess really. And *****, how's about you go have a bit of bum fun with your bald midget president?
Seps are winning. They basicaly decimated Ukrainian army South group during last counter offensive. and lay siege to the Mariupol. Captured almost whole border with Russia. Captured Lugansk airfield and pushed Ukrainian troops north to Schastie this basicaly eliminated any threat to Lugansk. There is site that count all armour and heavy equipment losses by both sides in this war only by photo/video proofs. With it can see how dire situation are for Ukrainian army. lostarmour.info
#VICEnews Thank You! As an American, it was very hard to watch this documentary video out of all "Russian Roulette" episodes; However I thank you for your #hardwork #bravery #fortitude #integrity filming this unconventional proxy war. As an American how can I help these families? Am I able to travel to this zone of the Eastern block to help the families? 411: Ex-Military background; OEF 2009; Combat Surgical and Field Medicine was my MOS [military occupational specialty].
They are just about to suffer a full scale invasion by Russia proper. Not rebels but the actual army. I would say that is a terrible idea for anyone to go there, but if you have no idea of what is going on there I suggest you stay well clear.
I think Vice saw all of the Pro-Russia people in the comments section of Simon Ostrovsky's videos and realised that since he was captured, it is difficult for him to report this story without favouring the Ukrainians. I say good on Vice's management for getting Henry Langsten to report from the Pro-Russia side, it generally keeps everybody happy.
They defended the people who didn't want to be apart of Georgia. The Georgian gov should've respected the people's rights of choice of independence or joining another country.
If you're gonna support the Ukrainian Nazis, at least remove the Star of David from your " avatar ". You're giving a new meaning to the words " sick " and " disgusting ".
Unfortunately this reminds me of Bosnia, a very serious and bloody fight that the locals don't understand why. Seeing civilians living in basements is hard - and the kids and the old effect me even more.. When all is said and done - will it change the average Ukrainian's lot in life? In Bosnia = not really. I hope this conflict has a better ending; but I doubt it. War has always been started by the rich and political - fought by their poor citizens that don't really understand why they should hate their enemy...
1:28 They are mercenaries, they fight for money. 8:52 Unless Putin takes everything into his hands, nothing is going to happen. It's all the local people say
James Bond nope it means the old lady wishes for Putin to take over. source: am Ukrainian, native Russian speaker, can understand the nuances of the phrase and tone (this one is fairly common phraseologism).
XxLadrxX Because the "separatists" took up arms first and started kidnapping random Ukrainians and even journalists, then started receiving military equipment from another country without any legit authority? That was a pretty stupid question. facebook.com/video.php?v=699488810145275&set=vb.510141735746651&type=2&theater
I am sorry, but I just don't understand the complaints from the people of the DNR. They complain about Poroshenko and ask why he is doing this if he loves Ukraine and its people. Do the people of the DNR even count as Ukrainians anymore seeing that they want to separate and eventually join Russia? I know shelling civvies is wrong, but how can you complain if you are with the other side. They are enemies of the rest of Ukraine but they still feel as if they should be treated as a Ukrainian. They should be treated as Russians seeing that is what they want to be. I hate to be a dick but I am just saying that they are sheer idiots if they think that the Ukrainian military will protect them when they choose to be on the side of the people that hate and fight with western Ukrainians. It just doesn't make sense...
What a mess. War tourists, mercenaries, normal people killing each other. Can't really point at anyone and say "these are the good guys who didn't do anything wrong".
3:18, STOP USING SOVIET SYMBOLS you Russian chauvinists. The USSR was not founded as a Russian cultural empire, but as a union of workers councils ( soviets ). Sure it degenerated under Stalin, but the idea behind the USSR was proletarian internationalism, not Russian chauvinism. Just look at the Soviet emblem and you see the words; Proletarians of the World Unite, written in all 14 languages of the former USSR! The emblem of the so called People's Republic of Donetsk is the czarist eagle and they wave with Russian flags. So their masters are the Kremlin in Moscow. They should not use Soviet symbols. Lenin has nothing to do with your little sectarian conflict with the Ukrainians. He would call on all workers to rise up against Kiev and Moscow. Against the chauvinists who glorify Russia and those nationalist Ukrainians. Down with the banners of czarism and nationalism. Burn the symbols of the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Long live the true ideals of the Soviet revolution!
you're right except about the part about the ideals of the soviet revolution. they were flawed and retarded. even lenin saw that which is why he chose to reform the system to function more capitalistic early on.
Lol your fucking stupid. The USSR fell for a reason. Obviously a Capitalistic society is the way to go, since most of the western world is capitalist (or somewhat based on Capitalism) and are some of the world powers today. The idea of a communist state will never becomes reality. There will always be greedy people who will take advantage of communism. Communism is a "perfect" world, and there's no such thing as perfect here in Earth. Communism or Marxism will never work. Humanity is too imperfect. The government always abuses it's power. There has never been a successful communist state under the rules of the Communist Manifesto and the ideas of Marxism
Plus they're uber anti-semites (unlike the so called "fascist junta") maybe they don't recall the fact that soviet unions were packed with Jews who in fact were one of the central founder groups of the bolsheviks movement and of what came after.
***** What the fuck. Jewish people were persecuted more than any other religious group in Europe and other places. That's why the state of Israel was formed, to give the Jewish people a homeland, because of the Anti-Semite groups in Europe. Anti-Semite was huge at the time of the creation of Israel, and governments were doing enough about it. The Soviet Union was not created by fucking jews you dumbshit. It was formed after the Russian Revolution which started in 1917, because of the opposition to Russian imperial rule. the Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Replublic was declared by Vladimir Lenin and fought a civil war against pro-imperials. The Communists were victorious and formed the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)
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that PPSh belongs in a museum
Go get it Indiana!
Nah man
It's wonderful how they managed to preserve it in such a good condition
Migth have belonged to a family member that faugth ww2
@@cardenas8995 actually many of them were produced till late sixties and even seventies and after that most of them were preserved in special warehouses in lubricant. It was stored there until early 90's, when most of them were sold, because nobody had money in former USSR countries. But some of them managed to stay safe in those warehouses till those days. So it is just like brand new. And you can easily find ammunition for it, because it uses stock 9mm parabellum bullets, which are popular today too.
This is a true journalism. Go to see with your own eyes, speak to locals, visit different locations. Professional, profound and true video report. Thank you, guys, for your courage and humanism.
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I love these Ukraine dispatches its been a journey watching it from when it first started to now and how far the conflict has come. Please keep them coming.
You need to do some research and watch videos on liveleak if you really want to know what's going on. VICE news only give a diluted vision
Pavel J I do, But there's something about Vice that i just prefer over any other news channel. I'm probably gonna get a lot of shit for this statement but they seem very unbiased and try their best to just show it how it is.
Pavel J can please give some keywords to search for on liveleak? thank you!
backupcd Just go on the "Ukraine" channel: www.liveleak.com/c/Ukraine
The videos flow here
Unfortunately, LiveLeak is overrun by Russian Federation spam bots.
I love how VICE is showing the conflict from both perspectives! This channel seriously does deserve alot of more subcribers and views! Keep it up!
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Just A Random High Schooler facts
How do you figure that? It's like me trying to describe America and picking only some criminal and gopnik types. Different people have joined the Rebellion for totally different reasons. And the Rebellion itself is just the tip of the iceberg. Like yesterday I'm watching a perfectly neutral travel blog about my beloved Kharkov and they're showing the former Dzerzhinsky Square and there it is- Petlyura's red and black flag! So they destroyed the statue of Lenin because it was traumatizing them but they don't give a rat's ass that that frigging flag is traumatizing us. End of story.
IN 2022 , this is all now deemed , " Russian Propaganda" , by NATO and the USA !
facts no longer matter to Western Media or society.
All of this is now a big Russian Lie.
Whoopie Goldberg would want to put the journalist in jail, for telling this side of the story, that is where the USA is right now
hi from 2023
I have watched this russian roulette series in full now in 2024, just watched some of them back in 2014/15. Im 10 years older and i can really say now that this is the most impressive war-reporting i have ever watched. This series is history-«book» worthy! Largely unbiased, voices from both sides, frontline reporting, background information, filming the horrors of wars. Good job Vice, this is your best series and one of the best by media ever when it comes to war coverage.
That grenade launcher is an AGS-30, production started in 1995, and only used by 5 countries in the world none of which start with a letter "U".
At this point, you can't doubt there's any Russian involvement, but you can't doubt there's not Western involvement as well. Both sides' grunts know that the cease-fire never works, and it's always alternating hands on who is firing into one another's territory breaking the ceasefires. It's a vicious cycle at this point, one side will always retaliate for the actions of the other. Civilians will always die, and both sides will be to blame.
In this war, there's no right or wrong, just whoever you favor - Russia or the EU.
I dont see any NATO weapons on the Ukrainian side, are you sure the West directly involved in this?
HowYaDoingMon It's more or less logistical supplies, not direct weapon and troop intervention like Russia. Some countries are coming up with the idea for weaponry support, but thus far I haven't seen anything.
this is ags-17. ussr standard from the seventies. and his handgun is ww2-period ppsh41. so please stop making assumptions based on fantasies.
Виктор Монкевич AGS-17 never has been used by the Ukranian army so your point still is invalid.
CobraFlying
Oh for the love of God, so if a rebel had an M4 or a Polish AK you would say US is arming the rebels or Poland is invading Ukraine? What if they bought some Chinese grenade launchers or Turkish pistols? There are parts of the world, many of them very close to Ukraine, where you can buy just about any common weapon if you have the money, and guess what: WEAPON DEALERS LOOK FOR CONFLICTS WHERE THEY CAN SELL WEAPONS, if you have a war or even a local conflict there are thousands of people from all sorts of different countries that show up ready and willing to sell a large selection of all sorts of stuff ... at an inflated price maybe, but THATS WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING.
Vice should get an award for these compilations and accurate portrait of events of war
Ukraine 2014 = Croatia 1991
Same story. Ukraine nobody will help you.
Just buy a lot of weapon, train hard and wait for right moment to hit back.
Can somebody explain me this video footage? supposedly it's the Ukrainian military firing at their own civilians
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@@jellyeigenwijsneus3855 yes they are. It is happening since the battle started. And the ukrainian thinks that all civilian living in the war zone are supporting the pro russians and to break the backbone and discouraging them from any future movement they are not fighting a psychological war with them.
Yeah, unfortunately that is true. But if Russia gets officially involved, I think NATO will help
@@bacaps3rgaming631 No, NATO will not help Ukraine!!
Because if they do so, it will be war against Russia=WW3. And nobody wants war against nuclear power state like Russia.
@@kinky1941 technically Russia isn't involved. If NATO goes to war if this escalates the Russians will have to expose their participation
That t-90 had a Russian flag on it.
Not a T-90, it's a T-72 ;)
That is what a pro-Russian rebel would put on his tank....Derp Derp
***** yup
well it definitely wasn't a T-90, and when does it show the tank? As in what time in the video?
Pilkington Monk
Thats definetly a t-90. Look at the shape of the turret and the optics.
Rebels do not have these types of weapons because they cannot buy them or use them. It takes a year to learn how to use artillery with any accuracy. And it takes a trained unit to operate. And these "rebels" never run out of shells. These "rebels" never run out of food or fuel. These "rebels" have better logistic skills then fedex. Rebels go home at night, these men never leave. Rebels suffer without food, these men never go hungry. And most of these "rebels" killed or captured were russians on vacation. My point is that i doubt any offensive "rebels" are from Ukraine. I think the real rebels from Ukraine see little to no fighting. I think these well trained fighters we see now are russians who are better supplied than Ukraines National Gaurd are all elite russian forces.
Wake up russia, please stop this war pull your troops out of ukraine before it is too late and russia is too broken. Save russia from putin
Бля чувак, есле бы Россия действительно воевала с Украиной ,Украина не продержалась-бы и 2-3 дней иммено столько надо чтобы доехать на урале с одной до другой её части.
***** Вот именно.
***** Dude, there's satellite imagery of Russian tanks charging to Ukraine.
***** I'm gonna guees from your username that you're nothing but a troll but i'll reply anyways. 90% of the "separatist" are actually Russian civilians. There are hundreds of recruitment stations in
*****
Putin has stated that there's thousands of Russian troops on "vacation" in Ukraine and it's not his problem if they decided to fight for the rebels. Putin needs to man up and stop being a fucking pussy. Just like at the start of this conflict when there were thousands of troops taking over Ukrainian military bases and they were all wearing the same uniform. Once again Putin said they weren't Russian troops. There is also an article that has an instagram of a well known Russian Alpha Group member showing him with weapons in Ukraine. That means there's Russian special forces fighting as well.
felt really bad for the old lady, survived one o the most terrific things in the human history and now has to go trough similar shit in her last years...
Ukraine calls them terrorists now
***** Then why they shell civilians?
***** Bombing schools and hospitals does sound like destroying infrastructure. Bombing buildings filled with innocent people does sound like trying to start a chaos. So to me it seems that Ukraine just doing whatever it takes to make the region unlivable. No matter the cost. Also calling everyone there a terrorist sorta helps to boost the morale.
***** It's all related to how I feel about this situation. I understand that separatists could bomb them too. Just like America could have done the 9/11. But in both cases I find it hard to believe.
@@XxLadrxX i like how you like your own comments just to make sure in your mind that someone could support your unproved opinion with your giant ego...smh
So sad for that old lady. Nobody should experience 2 wars in his/her lifetime.
With out Vice I would have no idea any of this is happening. There is very little information about this in Sydney.
Good job Vice, cheers.
This provides much needed balance to the whole series... the other guy provides such unbalanced reporting. Thank you
collin ohlinger Seriously? Can you give me a source on that?
collin ohlinger wait what? One of vices reporters where tortured by pro russians?
Simon unbalanced? He saw those people for what they really are. Torturing and kidnapping terrorists. And this guy is clearly is biased towards those thugs. Asks citizens implying it was ukranian shells. You don`t do that unless you are from RT. They can`t possibly know.
***** maybe his reports became balanced because he is afraid of getting kidnapped and tortured agAin, so he just plays along with the rebels ballox/rubbish talk. please open them eyes, good woman!
***** lol RT IS MISSING YOU badly!! quick get over there now for your daily dose of nonsense.
If you believe there is no Rus troops in Ukraine, you are blind. Also, look back in history. Germany(WWll Era) "liberated" a small patch of land near Germany's border. Countries in Europe(like England) said to Germany(I'm using exaggeration) Wtf are you guys doin? Germany said the little population on that small land was mostly German and wanted to be w/ Germany. Germany did it about 2-3 more times w/ the same excuse, and then Blitzkrieg ed Poland, thus, starting WWll.
**On a side note** Rus has taken small portions of Georgia.
History is repeating itself.
Just what i was thinking.
*****
balkan, middle east, parts of south america......wow so much right
*****
who the hell told you that? have you actually seen how it looked like? you can look it up how it looked like before the US ''intervention''. same goes to afganistan
Sorry, but correction. Russia never took any part of Goorgia, there are a frozen conflict there and was since 1991 after USSR collapsed, two regions in Georgia declared independence, they were not recognized as USA didn't want it. So they still unrecognized regions, they are not a part of Russia neither Georgia.
"We were just holding a defensive position, not attacking..." Unidentified DNR Officer 2014 I flatlined! xD
I understand putin now! He just does whatever he wants, then blames Ukraine for doing it.
You don't understand a darn thing.
12:30 Igor is asked a direct question by the reporter - "When the DNR forces were moving forward yesterday, were they trying to take Maripol? Propaganda response, "We are just holding a defensive position, we're not attacking? Only in Russia does moving forward = "defensive".
5:24 that PPSH-41 . such a sexy looking gun.
"In the future, we will go to Mariupol" - please remember what he says because right now there are no fights in Mariupol, nobody is getting killed there. The citizens of Mariupol see themseves as ukrainans and don't want to be part of DNR (Simon Ostrovsky showed it in previouse dispatches!)
Seriously? 😀😀😀
Man seeing that old ukranian lady was heartbreaking
12:21
1) that dog is a yes from me
2) his pronunciation of “michael Jackson” is hilarious
Winter is going to be horrible for these people...
I lived a few years in that area. Winter are cold as FUCK. I really hope that someone actually starts thinking about the people that have nothing to do with this war.
AssassinoZockt They will learn to love Ukraine...The hard way.CUT OFF ALL THE GAS TO DONETSK LET THEM FUCKING KNOW HOW IT IS TO LIVE WITHOUT UKRAINE
Lisovp Awesomelisovp
ukraine wanted to talk about the gas deal again with russia i heard hahahaha, guess its that easy to break someones will.
Lisovp Awesomelisovp i guess punishing the common people is they way to go these days?i spose the whole world is eyeless and toothless now
@@lol-zi1ym pretty much all of ukraine gets their gas from russia, hope you know that lol
VICE Has some balls to go in the middle of firefights and go into locations where shells are dropping.
theyre funnded
@@bismuthinuffin Dumb response, doesn't make it not brave. It's brave to risk your life when you fear losing your life.
@@Anglisc1682 You didn't understand what I was saying. So why reply?
@@Anglisc1682 oh you are a paid commenter
@@bismuthinuffin Uh no. Your mother is a paid something though
I find it hilarious how Simon talked mad shit about Russia and got kidnapped. Now he hides behind the Ukrainian army watching them retreat while this reporter gets some real action.
He was detained, not kidnapped, he even lied to them in a video before telling how he was a reporter for a Moscow television. I would detain him also.
Simon got kidnapped not by "talking shit about Russia" He only spoke about what they'd done and said themseves.
Reporting and "talking shit" are 2 different things. It's not Simon's fault that the separatists kidnap and threaten to kill anyone who doesn't show them in a positive, biased light.
BiGKiDXavieR Holloman What he did was express opinion and his personal feelings. Some of the most unprofessional reporting I have ever seen. Anyone with common sense and at least an elementary education could tell he was biased.
SaproPhycs Derpy link to him lying about being from "Moscow television"? I have watched all dispatches as they came out and I can't remember this happening, he always said he worked for "Vice news, internet news agency".
My heart breaks seeing all those innocent people suffer.I'd never thought brother would go against brother in Ukraine
not only did she live like that during WWII but now she has to relive it again at her old age..dang i feel sorry for her :...............(
That PPsH-41 belongs in a museum!
I love this guy in the end, 'well, no heavy offensives conducted by us'. Meaning they do attack but not in large numbers yet.
I hope people realize this situation has gone far beyond trying to figure out who is in the right and who is not.
The important thing is that it stops.
If only this had aged better...
how does vice get access to this, really good reporting worth every penny
Vice News headed north of Donetsk to the town of Yasynuvata to check on reports that the town had come under fresh artillery fire that left residents living in their basements and without basic amenities.
Flight MH17 Broke Apart When Hit by High-Energy Objects, Report on Ukraine Crash Finds: bit.ly/1qC2SBC
"High-Energy Objects" we will never get ansers, they prefer to cover up
*****
could be "Royal Shell" was after that aswell, think its more about a war with russia tho
"High energy objects", you mean bullets. Just say it like it is.
Is there any new information about a attack by DPR on Mariupol ??
Birdy Cephon
actually in this context it refers to shrapnel, not bullets. The particular anti aircraft technology that is suspected to be the cause of this is designed to explode close to the aircraft, shredding it with shrapnel, more damage that way.
i also think vice is doing a good job covering both sides of the war fairly and not bullshitting like fox news cnn rte sky news keep up the good work guys and girls
I had a nightmare that Michael Jackson was crawling up my leg.
The civilians and separatists don't know this, but the shelling of their structures is an attrition technique...
The town is held by separatists. It gets shelled because of their presence.
The civilians are supposed to kick them out...
If you could stop your town from getting swathed by artillery by kicking out squatting vagrants, would you do it?
That is the plan...
But you see,seps keep everyone at gunpoint.Nobody wants to stand up.
Lisovp Awesomelisovp Right... I stand corrected...
Keston Hurd Seriously.The people of Donbass do not give a shit about which flag they're flying.They just want the military to leave.Unfortunately,they are being suppressed,scared into their cellars to hide from GRAD fire.
the Ukrainians need better equipment :/
Define " Ukrainians ". It's a civil war, there are Ukrainians on both sides.
@@tatianalyulkin410 you know exactly what he meant
No, I don't. I'm a Ukrainian by blood, my surrogate brother, Ivan Prikhod'ko, the Mayor of Gorlovka, is Ukrainian as well and we're both Rebels. Are you seriously trying to imply that every Ukrainian is or should be in bed with Zelensky and his Azov scum?
@@tatianalyulkin410 There are 2 sides the Ukrainian forces and the rebels. It should be pretty obvious that when a person is saying that the Ukrainians need better equipment they refer to the country.
@@Hydanci Yeah, but I don't accept their claim to MY country and I never will- no matter if Donbass falls or not.
LOL... This guy is the Ultimate Commie Badass! He's rockin nothing but a beret, a tank top, and his trusty yet horribly inaccurate PPSh-41. What a commendable bad ass, he's like a Russian Texan or something lol.
This war makes no sense. They should have had an official referendum organized by OSZE. Would have saved many lifes.
These areas who are inhabited by majority of russian natives are lost for ukraine.
There is no way that they will rule over this area again. The people who live there are against them.
Even if they retake the area under military control they will still be attacked by separatists from the underground backed by the majority of native russian people.
Russia is not officialy going into the terretory cause it doesnt want an escalation war in whole east europe. And they have no reason to take any territory that is not inhabited by majority of russian people.
Russia as the EU/US are liars and the loosers are the people who just want to live their daily life in freedom.
Interesting will be larger citys like Mariuopol who are 50/50 russian and ukrainian.
Bless these people and bring them peace.
I see here many comparison between Simon and Henry who one is better in reporting. Both are good and Henry significantly improved the but is one basic difference between them Simon understands more what is going on with political and historical point. Those people detect this so they try to tell a fairy tale to Henry. More reliably is Simon's reporting
Don't tell me that artillery hit 150 feet away. It was close, but not that close.
Fascism was defeated in ww11 but not dead. Survived to come back
In Russia 😏
This guy and his team, as well as your other Ukraine correspondent deserve a serious pay rise and some recognition within the journalistic community, their bravery is amazing.
I wish one side would win this war already. If these people in the east love Russia so much, why don't they move to Russia? Why create all this unrest?
Henry, you are brave and I thank you for your excellent service in putting clarity into a murky situation - however, I start to fear that you are too brave sometimes. Please, just ease off 10%. Artillery shells can't read those "press" signs.
Now that there are two points of view on vice news about this conflict, I am really satisfied! This is actually getting interesting!
Showing these videos to Western audience is a failure, they don't understand the specifics of this regions, hell, most people in the west can't locate their city on the map.
Well your are technically correct i mean to make an true documentary you needed to show the different perspectives of each side, i hope both Ukraine and Russia are at peace
Шахтёры 😂😂😂 а гранатометы тоже в шахтах были??? И танки там короче самый большой склад был в шахтах 😂😂😂
Там они еще российские флаги нашли😂
I have to admit that Pogranec looks absolutely badass.
She certainly thinks she is. Watching too much Rambo.
The Kiev army has been shelling citizens indiscriminately, I won't even start by questioning where DNR/DPR got their weapons from because they have all the rights to get better equipments to DEFEND themselves against such an aggression. All I can say is go DPR/DNR! You are the true freedom fighters fighting for your ideology, beliefs, and the people!
Thank you my dearest. Sinn Fein! 😀
Dpr/dnr are just buffer states between eu and Russia lad yall getting played
@@dennisjohnson7779 It goes a lot deeper than that. Yesterday I found out that a Ukrainian movie studio made a movie about Simon Petlyura- the thing whose scum almost lynched my great grandfather and raped my grandmother. And Blinken, Nuland and Zelensky stood by and let it happen. There is no common ground between us. And even if Donbass falls, it's gonna change bubkes. End of story.
Vice give views from both sides and it's pretty valid.
13:14 I'm pretty surprised that the separatists were able to keep a straight face when they said there aren't any Russians there.
That artillery wasn't 50 yards away, get your depth perception checked! You would have been hit with shrapnel. They were dropping way off,
This video will make you think about current events!
I can't understand the point of view of pro russians.
Why they should go to Mariupol?
Mariupol don't want to be a part of Russia or DNR.
12:40 look at the nice and new russian army truck :D
After the close call here, we headed out... To a place, rumored to have heavy shelling and firefights, into the depths of hell. "Don't you love vice for putting themselves in danger to get a accurate documentation of these professions.
It seems to me like the Ukrainian leadership really doesn't want this to end, they don't supply their own troops with the proper equipment to wage a war and they don't seem like they are sending in support troops. The DNR does not look like they are only 1/2 commited they are all in and anything less by the Ukrain leadership is just sad and i feel sorry for the Ukrainian people who have a paper tiger leader like Poroshenko
@2:20 that's farther than 50 yards but still too damn close for comfort, that's for sure.
6:30 "Осетия". Osetians are proud of their presense. Russian modern granade launcher, rebel group leader with WW2 machine gun, rocket shelling few meters near british journalist. 13:22 "За Ростов", "For Rostov" (russian city) on the medal, "Вежливые люди" ("Polite people") on T-shirt, it's russian paramilitary organization.
What I hate the most about this series is that every time Ukrainians or Russians speak they chose what to translate and what literally not to write subtitles for as if she didn’t say anything or said something completely different with their intonation, it’s pretty blunt bias.
13:13 "There are no Russians here," Meanwhile, there is a brand new cargo truck with an obvious Russian flag on it sitting right there in the background. SMH...
Russian flag is white, blue, red !!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Russia
Ukraine have recently bought a pile of these trucks from Russia, but part of ukranian troops captured and I think they went to DNR :)
Denis Maksimov
it s the white truck with aid from ruSSia, after rainning white colors fall
"large number of high-energy objects" that "pierced the plane at high speed", isn't a SAM basically a huge shot gun shell that flies
i want to help the Ukrainians so much i wish i could be over there and help them fight for their freedom
Yeah, helping them to kill civilians in Donbass and honor Bandera sounds good.
@@Andrey-Lyan understand that my comment was more than 6 years ago my guy. My views and opinions have changed since then. But thanks for your 2 cents ill add it to my collection 🤙
Go fight. Help Ukrainian fascists
Just curious, what camera is used to film this?
Local people are hostages. Hostages by Separatist.
Вскрываю брошенные магазины раздаю людям еду))😂😂😂Гениальный треп)
Идиот так произошло везде где Украина разрушила города и села , все в подвалах сидят и радуются что украина пришла их "освободить"
@@metaSopp везде вылезли пророссийские марадеры,присваивающие себе чужую собственность?
@@СергейСальченко На майдане захватить правительственные здание это просто будни, а все те разрушения что принесла армии украины это просто ужасно , там действительно магазины не работали долгое время (гуманитарная катастрофа)
@@metaSopp безусловно не работали,а боевики их еще и разграбили.Как и оставленные людьми квартиры.
@@СергейСальченко Да только люди говорят про марадерства со стороны нацгвардии удивительно, и больше половины ополчения местные
Make love, not Novorussia
how is the situation now? i am worried about civil people
Does anyone know who is technically winning the war right now? Hard facts please. I'm very curious about what is going on.
Since about the time of the Russian humanitarian aid convoi the rebels have been pushing back Ukrainian troops on most fronts. There were also up to three encirclements where a lot of Ukrainain troops and volunteer battalions were entrapped. Right up to the "ceasefire" it looked like the rebels were encircling Mariupol to take it from Ukraine.
Suyamu
Thanks for the info.
Prepping Teen I'd say it's a stalemate, neither side is winning and it's just a bit of a mess really. And *****, how's about you go have a bit of bum fun with your bald midget president?
Seps are winning. They basicaly decimated Ukrainian army South group during last counter offensive. and lay siege to the Mariupol. Captured almost whole border with Russia. Captured Lugansk airfield and pushed Ukrainian troops north to Schastie this basicaly eliminated any threat to Lugansk.
There is site that count all armour and heavy equipment losses by both sides in this war only by photo/video proofs. With it can see how dire situation are for Ukrainian army.
lostarmour.info
In Easter Ukraine, Russian (ahem) Pro-Russian forces, of course. Russian army has now officially entered Ukraine and helping the pro-Russians advance
If it was 60 yards you are dead and they’re aiming for you.
Separatistes is Rusians teroristes goo home za parebrik. Donbas in Crimea Ukraine. Glory to Ukraine.
Crimea was never historically ukrainian, they stole it
That commander with the PPSH-41 though
#VICEnews Thank You!
As an American, it was very hard to watch this documentary video out of all "Russian Roulette" episodes; However I thank you for your #hardwork #bravery #fortitude #integrity filming this unconventional proxy war.
As an American how can I help these families?
Am I able to travel to this zone of the Eastern block to help the families?
411: Ex-Military background; OEF 2009; Combat Surgical and Field Medicine was my MOS [military occupational specialty].
They are just about to suffer a full scale invasion by Russia proper. Not rebels but the actual army. I would say that is a terrible idea for anyone to go there, but if you have no idea of what is going on there I suggest you stay well clear.
@@rhysthomas623 roger
@@rhysthomas623 There's gonna be no Russian invasion. Don't take that bullshit. They are no fools to shoot on their own foot.
@@НиколайКазанский-м7я ok lmao
@@williamfairfaxmasonprescot9334 ask your governmnent to stop fueling this war!
I think Vice saw all of the Pro-Russia people in the comments section of Simon Ostrovsky's videos and realised that since he was captured, it is difficult for him to report this story without favouring the Ukrainians. I say good on Vice's management for getting Henry Langsten to report from the Pro-Russia side, it generally keeps everybody happy.
6:30 the word "Osetia" is written in the wall. So cute that after 6 year russians still remember what they did in Georgia
They defended the people who didn't want to be apart of Georgia. The Georgian gov should've respected the people's rights of choice of independence or joining another country.
I am a little confused on what is going on overall with this conflict. Can someone please explain what is happening?
Vice should be on Netflix!
If you're gonna support the Ukrainian Nazis, at least remove the Star of David from your " avatar ". You're giving a new meaning to the words " sick " and " disgusting ".
Unfortunately this reminds me of Bosnia, a very serious and bloody fight that the locals don't understand why. Seeing civilians living in basements is hard - and the kids and the old effect me even more.. When all is said and done - will it change the average Ukrainian's lot in life? In Bosnia = not really.
I hope this conflict has a better ending; but I doubt it. War has always been started by the rich and political - fought by their poor citizens that don't really understand why they should hate their enemy...
for some strange reason putin doesn't want the ukraine to join nato i wonder why ....
Gotta love the Maxim Magazine in the bottom left 2:58
I like how they use soviet symbols in their flags, that are basically same as a swastika :)). Lets hope we see those flags burning.
ignorant
wow that lady survived ww2 only to see a other war from her own government.
The world is slowly loosing its mind...
Shut the hell up its been like this since the dawn of mankind equarg
equarg I think it's been losing it's mind for the last 1000 years, I really wouldn't worry about it.
ukjunglist26 Thank you
It's always been lost. The difference is that we're slowly beginning to realize we've lost our minds...
***** I was just kidding :-)
That basement might seem save but it's a death trap :'(
At 1:46 is that a Russian Flag on that tank?
1:28 They are mercenaries, they fight for money.
8:52 Unless Putin takes everything into his hands, nothing is going to happen.
It's all the local people say
Bet J 8:52 it just means that Putin doesn't do anything yet.
James Bond nope it means the old lady wishes for Putin to take over. source: am Ukrainian, native Russian speaker, can understand the nuances of the phrase and tone (this one is fairly common phraseologism).
That PPSH-43 is Badass.
*PPSH-41
DPR are the separatists?
***** More like "Donetsk People's Republic".
Yes they are. Just like Scotland seems to be.
***** Oh you see the difference now huh. Then why is it justified to kill everyone who is for seperation in Ukraine?
If Ukraine does get to retain all of the territory controlled by DPR, there will never be peace, because DPR will become like the IRA.
XxLadrxX Because the "separatists" took up arms first and started kidnapping random Ukrainians and even journalists, then started receiving military equipment from another country without any legit authority? That was a pretty stupid question.
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I honestly hope this madness will soon be over
I am sorry, but I just don't understand the complaints from the people of the DNR. They complain about Poroshenko and ask why he is doing this if he loves Ukraine and its people. Do the people of the DNR even count as Ukrainians anymore seeing that they want to separate and eventually join Russia? I know shelling civvies is wrong, but how can you complain if you are with the other side. They are enemies of the rest of Ukraine but they still feel as if they should be treated as a Ukrainian. They should be treated as Russians seeing that is what they want to be. I hate to be a dick but I am just saying that they are sheer idiots if they think that the Ukrainian military will protect them when they choose to be on the side of the people that hate and fight with western Ukrainians. It just doesn't make sense...
That's right, blame America & don't take any responsibility for your own actions.
What I learned from this video: It's Communists vs Fascists.
What a mess. War tourists, mercenaries, normal people killing each other. Can't really point at anyone and say "these are the good guys who didn't do anything wrong".
Putin just stop please
He didn't start anything. Nuland and Kolomojsky did. 😀
3:20 totally not worrying flag you got there. I am sure Europe is sleeping easier seeing that flag.
WTF IS AN ICED SOY CHA???
lol that commercial is so annoying. xD
The DPR commander looks like a character from Street Fighter
3:18, STOP USING SOVIET SYMBOLS you Russian chauvinists. The USSR was not founded as a Russian cultural empire, but as a union of workers councils ( soviets ). Sure it degenerated under Stalin, but the idea behind the USSR was proletarian internationalism, not Russian chauvinism. Just look at the Soviet emblem and you see the words; Proletarians of the World Unite, written in all 14 languages of the former USSR!
The emblem of the so called People's Republic of Donetsk is the czarist eagle and they wave with Russian flags. So their masters are the Kremlin in Moscow. They should not use Soviet symbols. Lenin has nothing to do with your little sectarian conflict with the Ukrainians. He would call on all workers to rise up against Kiev and Moscow. Against the chauvinists who glorify Russia and those nationalist Ukrainians.
Down with the banners of czarism and nationalism. Burn the symbols of the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Long live the true ideals of the Soviet revolution!
you're right except about the part about the ideals of the soviet revolution. they were flawed and retarded. even lenin saw that which is why he chose to reform the system to function more capitalistic early on.
"Sure it degenerated under Stalin" nope Lenin got to it first
Lol your fucking stupid. The USSR fell for a reason. Obviously a Capitalistic society is the way to go, since most of the western world is capitalist (or somewhat based on Capitalism) and are some of the world powers today. The idea of a communist state will never becomes reality. There will always be greedy people who will take advantage of communism. Communism is a "perfect" world, and there's no such thing as perfect here in Earth. Communism or Marxism will never work. Humanity is too imperfect. The government always abuses it's power. There has never been a successful communist state under the rules of the Communist Manifesto and the ideas of Marxism
Plus they're uber anti-semites (unlike the so called "fascist junta") maybe they don't recall the fact that soviet unions were packed with Jews who in fact were one of the central founder groups of the bolsheviks movement and of what came after.
***** What the fuck. Jewish people were persecuted more than any other religious group in Europe and other places. That's why the state of Israel was formed, to give the Jewish people a homeland, because of the Anti-Semite groups in Europe. Anti-Semite was huge at the time of the creation of Israel, and governments were doing enough about it. The Soviet Union was not created by fucking jews you dumbshit. It was formed after the Russian Revolution which started in 1917, because of the opposition to Russian imperial rule. the Russian Socialist Federative Soviet Replublic was declared by Vladimir Lenin and fought a civil war against pro-imperials. The Communists were victorious and formed the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)
Henry is a good journalist because to me he doesn't approach any one side as good or bad. Thank you for your open minded approach to journalism.