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I lived about 5 miles from this location. I was about 5 years old when it happened on 24 January 1961. A book titled The Goldsboro Broken Arrow by Joel Dobson is an excellent account of the "incident". The relief pilot who jumped out of one hatch only to be thrown out the roof hatch was the last survivor of the crash. He nearly parachuted back into the burning crash. He was one of the first black B-52 pilots. A family drove him back to Seymore-Johnson AFB and stopped them at the gate, not knowing about the crash, and tried to arrest the pilot for "stealing a parachute".
I live 25000 miles from the location, I was not even born, still terrified to know this incident
Damn you're old, me to, lol.
Rumor also has it there is a lost nuclear bomb off the coast of Georgia
@@redstonemacanic2434 being born in 1956 means they are 66 years old.
This is simply one of the most American things i've ever heard
"There's a nuke buried in the ocean off southern Spain" would be a great follow up! The Palomares Incident is another "Broken Arrow" moment, and a very scary one, too!
US Navy divers finally recovered it in very deep water using what was then revolutionary deep diving equipment. The first black master diver was involved. There was a movie about him starring Cuba Godding Jr.
My dad was part of a team that mapped fields where one of the 1 of 4 bombs had hit a mountain and scattered its contents over those fields. They had to scoop up the top few inches of the entire area and put them in 55 gallon drums and I think they dropped them into the ocean but I really don't know for sure what they did with all that dirt. Anyhow, we were living in Germany at the time and before he left he brought home a Geiger counter to learn to use before heading to the site to begin searching for radioactive stuff. He claimed a few years later some of the guys doing the mapping had died from radioactive exposure but I was just a kid at the time so I don't really know or remember much of those details either.
We have concrete valts full of nuclear waste from medical and waste from power plants but mostly medical covering the ocean floor in multiple countries.
@@edreynolds8721 The aircraft carrier, the USS Independence, was sunk roughly 30 miles off the California coast near the Farallon Islands, and was rediscovered in 2015. It was not sunk under the Golden Gate Bridge.
@@john_t_england So most if not all of what Ed Reynolds has written can be taken with a bucket of salt .
Seems he has a big chip or maybe a forest on his shoulder regarding Britain. He also forgot to mention "Three mile Island " , conveniently .
Doing the blame game very badly
Airman whats our fuel!?
About 22 elephants sir!
Outstanding airmanship!
I wish I could buy you a pack of beers, funniest shit I have seen commented on this platform for many many years.
@@tom4208irish?
@@N0v4.fr05t. I have irish in my blood but not enough to really consider myself an irish man
I wish more people could see this comment. It's hilarious!
I can picture them yelling back and forth in the noisy aircraft. 😂
@@tom4208 😂 Thanks I'll gladly accept them in spirit 🥂
Little Timmy: "Grandma, what's that glowing thing in the fireplace?"
Grandma: "I found it in a field. It keeps the house nice and warm."
Grandmothers, always so practical.
The devil heater
We've all heard of "the demon core incident". That would have been "the demon HVAC incident".
😂😂😂
Mark Whatney-disco vibes, anyone???
As a native to NC, this has always fascinated and terrified the hell out of me. My grandad used to tell me about the military crashing a bomber out in Goldsboro. This video hits extra special. Cheers Thoughty2!
Good thing I live all the way in Boone a good 300 miles from Goldsboro! A lot of my family is from Goldsboro though so I’ve always been interested in this. If there are any Goldsboro natives my cousin started Goldsboro Brewery.
You're not Scott free yet bud, keep in mind that the NFS is only about 60 miles away in Erwin. If either of those things goes off, we both get to watch each other's skin melt off because I live in Burnsville.
@@dogge929 lol I was thinking the same thing. This nuke is so powerful that 300 miles wouldn’t be far enough.
Lmao I live within 10 miles of the place
@@Brosef336Boone is so beautiful!
I lived my whole life living in Goldsboro and just moved to Raleigh, I find it a little strange how especially for it being an all Air Force town and the vast history; in school we never spent anytime learning about this aside from just hearing about it back in middle school.
Its funny bc it kinda gives u the perception that whatever you’re around is just a normal thing to be around and you assume they’re everywhere bc its all you know. Can only really appreciate that stuff once you see what other places are like
This episode happened a few months before I was born in Raleigh. There are photos from Las Vegas of above-ground regular "atom bomb" tests, not H-bombs like this one. Those spindly a-bomb mushroom clouds photographed from the Las Vegas strip are as far away as Goldsboro is from Raleigh. If it was an H-bomb the cloud would fill the camera's view finder.
It crazier to think how many people in thos comment section wouldn't exist right now. Of course the people from that area, but others as well. I really don't think the US would've taken blame for killing their own people. So this would have been the start of Cold War and possibly the beginning of the end for many of not all depending on how dumb we were. Considering this even happened I would say pretty dumb.
As if the government would approve education about anything that makes them look less than stellar lol
@@cowboybob7093 admittedly VERY briefly before the camera man died horribly, most likely
"22 hefty African bull elephants of fuel" you know, for the Americans that will measure in anything but the metric system
Or 22 fat broads from the local bar room dive.
That's one of the biggest differences between the U.S. and Europe.
- One uses the metric system
- The other has been to the moon!
Like 23,621 stone?
A friend and myself helped and elderly man install gutters on his patio roof about 20+ years ago. After we finished, he thanked us and talked for awhile. He began to tell about his life and work. He was in the Airforce and told us this amazing story. We asked him how he heard about this incident. He told us he was a member of the crew and was one of the survivors.
Cool. Old school military guy passing on his story to be remembered by a couple kids.
Edit: you might not have been kids, but you were to him.
This episode is filled with “Dropping loads”, burying tips in the ground”, and “exploding in holes”
And long thick round things , both thick and thin - which is still in situ .
A good find , if precautions are taken , to find the buried treasure - and thin long rod , to fit your post .
Somebody is down bad . haha
‘Can I just put the tip in , nothing will hapen’
Imagine penetrating so hard and so fast that you could only recover one of your 2 cores.
Don't forget that untrimmed patch of overgrowth
All Thoughty2 videos are fascinating. But this was extra special. A magnificent 15 minute production.
did you change your thumbnail or am i going nuts
You are 100% correct!
Well, doggone it!! I enjoy Thoughty2’s videos a lot also and to hear this one was extra good makes me jealous. Can’t enjoy the story as much because I’m a North Carolinian. Locally and colloquially, this story is “getting long in the tooth”. But Thoughty2 is welcome to come for a visit to work on a video. He and I can look for white squirrels and boomers, hunt for ginseng and lion’s mane, eat boiled peanuts and livermush, show him a proper tobacco plant and, heck, if he gets *too* bored, I’ll find a church with snakes as a part of the service.
Not even close, with the 5 minute ad banter.
These attack and destroy billions of my braincells per picosecond encountered by it.
I need an in-video ad banter killer.
Anyone a suggestion?
@@Xogroroth666 Meditation, bro.
Fun Fact: The US has accidentally dropped, crashed, or lost nukes on its own soil a total of 5 times (outside of testing of course). Including this one, a couple of them have never been found and are near residential areas
I found cutting out granola and blueberries completely, and replacing them with a 'full English' made me extremely happy.
Animation of the B52 refueling drove me nuts!! The plane that refuels the other plane is in front of and higher then the one receiving the full.. So the B52 would have been below and in back, and the refueling would be higher and in front. My OCD kicked in big time..
Also, the undercarriage of both planes was down.
My inner nerd, was in full-on "Hulk mode" watching that.
Hmm, YT must've deleted the other comment 🤔
@ADAM STEELE lol I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist pointing out two things:
The first of which should be blatantly obvious, is it not? I too, have an "inner" 🤓 (nerd)
The other would be my own personal, satisfying and egg headed love at discovering oxymorons. I'll leave it at that so as not to ruin the potential discovery for others 🔎🔬🔭🧪🔍
last i knew B-52s didn't refuel any aircraft. they were the ones getting fueled. obviously someone clueless made that animation. kind of weird someone would go to the trouble and effort to make a video then not get something that simple right.
@@danielbradley5255 : Ha, I know what you mean. My original comment, did acknowledge the obvious mistake. But alas, for some reason, ze TH-cam overlords didn't agree.
I live 35~40 miles away from this location that would have been ground zero. I’m really glad to see you covering this as well, as even folks around here are still not aware of this.
I too as others have commented wish thoughty2 would have included the pilots troubles getting back to Seymour-Johnson AFB. There are many videos on TH-cam covering the incident since it was declassified in 2013. I have not traveled to the location, but it’s on my to do list.
u go boom
I’ve had a front row seat to this ALL of my life….a few inches closer isn’t going to make any difference.
There's no bomb there isreal stole it.
the plutonium buried there is worth 30m$
That is a tiny refueling plane pumping in the wrong direction, no wonder they had issues lol.
I understood that the _second_ bomb, the one that didn't deploy the chute, was the one where they found that three of the four fail-safes had, um, failed.
There's a quote from the officer in charge of the _Broken Arrow_ team that recovered the bombs: "Until my death I will never forget hearing my sergeant say, 'Lieutenant, we found the arm/safe switch.' And I said, 'Great.' He said, 'Not great. It's on arm.'"
Michael H. Maggelet and James C. Oskins, authors of Broken Arrow: The Declassified History of U.S. Nuclear Weapons Accidents, disputed the claim that a bomb was only one step away from detonation, citing a declassified report. They point out that the arm-ready switch was in the safe position, the high-voltage battery was not activated (which would preclude the charging of the firing circuit and neutron generator necessary for detonation), and the rotary safing switch was destroyed, preventing energisation of the X-Unit (which controlled the firing capacitors). The tritium reservoir used for fusion boosting was also full and had not been injected into the weapon primary. This would have resulted in a significantly reduced primary yield and would not have ignited the weapon's fusion secondary stage.
Details...details...it's not nearly as scary...
Good to know.
Nice to see a comment from somebody who knows how a Teller-Ulam design bomb works. Thanks for saving me a bunch of typing.
Finally! Someone who knows the truth.
Cynical reply:
Yeah, but how many decades did it take to come up with all those details.
Honest reply:
Things like the tritium bottle being full - makes logistical sense, reassuring.
3:02 I imagine the person doing the animating did some internet research and found an image of a B-52 receiving fuel from a fighter-sized tanker, while being positioned above and in front of the tanker ...
And so made an animation of a b-52 with its gear down getting fuel from a third scale model of a xi'an y-20 that was behind and below it...this is leaps and bounds beyond that time that sam o'nella re-painted a p-51 to be a japanese plane.
@@n108bg That's exactly what I thought! Funny you should mention it, though, because I only found Sam O'Nella's channel a few weeks ago. Was the P-51 backlash the reason he stopped posting for two years? (BTW, I just went there and he put up a new vid a couple days ago.)
@@RB-bd5tz I'd say indirectly, I don't think he ever came out and said why he was on hiatus.
I was a 135 maintainer, i died a little
honestly i unsubbed because of that
I live just over an hour drive from Goldsboro. I'd heard about the nuke that was jettisoned in NC before, but I didn't realize just how nearby it was or that it was from a crash. There's another one that was jettisoned into the Savannah River in GA too, and never recovered I think.
I used to be an emergency fuel mechanic at Msp Airport. It's amazing how much temperatures and the fuel contract and expand on warm days vs. cool days . Fun job working in the controlled chaos
I didn't realise you did podcasts, I was on a 5 hour round trip 3 days in a row and searched " random facts " and your podcasts came up, I listened to every one of them, ranging from Blood is valuable to eggs and history. Brilliant 👏.
All the dad jokes made it so funny.
That mustache is preventing the end of the world
Think it's preventing the start of the new world simultaneously
So true🤣😂
All comments above this is true. At least at the time of writing this
The flavor saver
Agreed….but what’s it hiding 🤔😳
I'm from NC. I was stationed in Goldsboro for 8 years starting in 08. Didn't hear about this until I was at Seymour for a couple of years.
I wonder if there's a switch on the bomb for the parachute and if the airmen split into 2 teams and the 2 teams made different decisions on whether or not to switch the parachute off.
Great video. My grandfather actually died in a B-52 crash working for boeing when the vertical stabilizer came off at low altitude / high speed. Took them awhile to sort out how to keep them on in turbulence.
My wife and I were both children living in Goldsboro NC at the time. My father was in the Air Force, here father worked on base. Thank God it did not detonate. According to the story the switch that kept the parachute bomb from exploding was flipped on on the one that was buried in the ground. The officer leading the recovery said he got the chills when the recovery person told him it was flipped. Another interesting thing is that water table is within 10 feet of the surface in many places. That definitely hampered the recovery
I lived near Stantonsburg, NC at the time. I saw the pit after they reopened the road. They had massive pumps removing water they supposedly quit at digging 165 feet. The hole was also used to bury pieces of the B-52 that were not returned.
Nuclear bombs don't detonate on impact, and are not armed just by dropping it. There are multiple safeguards in place, and has to be a legitimate drop for the computers to take over the fuse. Nuclear bombs need a very precise series of events and explosions to actually detonate. You can mash them into the ground at 50,000MPH, and it still won't explode.
@@Mrbio41 there's gotta be some chance
@@jesscorbin5981 I mean minuscule. A nuke takes a series of millisecond timed explosions that have to trigger pretty much perfectly to detonate. And those can explosions only happen when the bomb is actually armed, and the computer takes over. That’s why you can crash planes with nukes and they don’t go off.
Plutonium would contaminate the ground water for centuries. I would be reluctant to drink or even use domestically any water sourced from that area. Crops too might be highly suspect.
Official response from government would have been, " Let's bury it for the next generation. We will lose promotion."
Arrived as a 2nd Lt at Seymour in late spring 1969, and was assigned to crash recovery. While exploring the surrounding area by jeep, I happened to drive by the wooded patch surrounded by a high fence with all kinds of NO TRESPASSING signs on the fence. Asked my senior NCO's about it, and got the story about the B52 crash and the nuc that could not be recovered. The story was the soil was so mushy that the deeper they dug the more loose and squishy the soil became, so they bought the land, ran concrete in the hole til it topped out and fenced it. This became a more realistic explanation when 2 months later we were dispatched to the site of a Marine A4 that had gone in at near a 90 degree angle. We arrived at the crash site about 9:30 AM and all that was there was literally a smoking hole, with several very small trickles on the sides of the hole running in. The hole was about 50' wide and possibly 25 to 30 feet deep cone shaped. When we watched the 6 o'clock news, the crew had filmed the hole...now a hole brim full of water. Don't know what time the news crew arrived, but it certainly was late enough to film a new swimming hole. The story about not being able to recover the bomb then made sense.
Chrome Dome was airborne alert. The best weapon is the one so good you never had to use it. Love how you explained the parachute was step one to Boom Town. And it's only an hour away, one road trip coming up
How is it that Thoughty2 always has an interesting story that I’ve never heard before!
I learned about it years ago on Mysteries at the Museum which is interesting. We also had a incident in Spain aswell.
Thought2 and MrBallen 2 my fav story tellers on youtube. Thoughty does more uploads i think. But admit Ballens way of telling the stories is usually better.
In most cases I've already heard the story he tells several times before, but he usually tells it a lot better than many others.
It’s the moustache… that glorious, perfect, manly moustache. It grants him immeasurable knowledge and otherworldly story telling abilities
He is thinking *2 times ?
With all the arrogance of the Cold War, you could do an entire series on near misses and broken arrows.
This is "Military Intelligence" defined. 😂
Considering the adversary was Soviet Russia, and how Russia has always covered up disasters (there are stories of Tsars ignoring inconvenient serf-catastrophes because the festivities must go on! seriously) - What I'm getting at is: *Imagine the horrific near-misses and real disasters ordered to be silenced (by) Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev etc.*
Amen! I was a Cold War soldier in the early 1970s. I'd hate to tell you how many times we fired anti-aircraft missiles with live, "tactical" nuclear warheads at Russian bombers, only to cancel the launch sequence with scant seconds to spare. Once we actually did launch such a rocket, but destroyed it in the air when the Russian pilot broke off his attack. The "Cold War" was the most badly-named war in history.
@@ProfPoindexter1968 Sources?
@@ModernProspector I assume top secret. Those sources I mean.
Stationed at Seymour Johnson AFB in 64-65. I worked on the flight line where the 52's were positioned on the tarmac. Never heard about the "incident' until years later, everyone was very tight lipped. don't ask, don't tell.
What an interesting way to present this events and clear voice. You just gained a new subscriber. Keep it up mate!
It is common practice to under load fuel on large military planes at take off and then top off the fuel tanks via mid air refueling once the plane is airborne. This allows the plane to carry more weight.
Why must we use bigger planes to refuel slightly less big planes?
@@digitalcurrents mid air refuelling is an important method used to extend the range of aircraft so they do not have to land. This saves time and fuel. Aircraft have a limited maximum take off weight but can actually hold more weight once they are in the air. Fuel is heavy, so by using only a minimum amount of fuel at take off, this allows the plane to carry a larger payload. Once in the air, it can add the extra weight of the fuel. Tanker planes, by necessity, are larger in order to carry more fuel and to be able to refuel many aircraft.
Interestingly, the SR71 BLACKBIRD spy plane had fuel tanks that were not liquid tight. The SR71 operated at high speeds that caused incredible friction and therefore extreme heat. To deal with this heat, the plane was made of titanium, a metal both lightweight and strong. Titanium is also heat resistant and won't melt at these higher temperatures. However, when metal is heated, it expands. To account for the expanding metal in the plane, the seams between panels and in the fuel tanks were left with gaps so the metal would expand when heated and seal the gaps. So when the SR71 took off, it was leaking fuel and immediately after takeoff it would refuel to top off its tanks. Once it reached operating altitude and speed, the fuel tanks would seal when the heated metal expanded.
@@digitalcurrents When I was active duty in the AF in the late 70s we used KC135s to refuel to F111s routinely and they were nuclear capable strategic bombers used for deterrence as a part of the MAD triad but I never saw one loaded with nuclear weapons actually fly missions. That would have meant its time to party like there's no tomorrow and kiss your butt goodby.
@@williamwalker1264 thank you for your service.
@@MrDDiRusso thats some crazy old world engineering shit lol. That plane would have never been made nowadays.
I am now convinced Humans have some unknown luck buff that makes massive rocks in space not hit us and nukes falling dropping from the sky by accident not explode.
Then how come I never win the PowerBall...?
@@buckhorncortez because if everybody has the buff and only one person can win it's like nobody has the buff
Exactly we cancel each other's buff when we compete. It's pvp scaling XD. But then there are still people who are lucky on their own merit so they are just kind of annoying.
because that would be too quick, we're to go slowly and painfully...
Maybe it’s Earth itself with the luck buff and not humans?
US Citizens: YOU LOST WHAT???!!
US Government: Oops :3
They should look at the two dark low spots between the trees and the road. The other core could have bounced from the bottom of the impact crater, been ejected, and impacted there. I'm surprised they couldn't use a Geiger counter to locate it.
the other was a thermobaric core. they found the bomb lawn darted into the ground completely vertical. as much as it could be having been ripped apart by the impact. they knew it was just a little further down, but with the nuclear core secured the other core was "safe enough". given that its purpose was detonating the nuclear core.
Thoughty2 is preventing my boredom. Keep it up, you mustachioed hero!!
I wouldn’t call it a secret. There’s literally a sign that explains what it is an where it’s located.
I’m biking distance from that place.
If anyone wishes to check it out make sure you go around April because there’s this cool airshow that occurs every other year. 2023 is the year it comes back.
I think it's more "little known" than secret. Everything involving it at all seems to be declassified now. Still, hilarious comment about the sign :D Yeah I'd say that's not too secret.
I don’t think he called it a secret once😂
Dont worry theres only been like 32 Broken Arrow incidents
@@goatpepperherbaltea7895 literally a little more than one minute into the video he calls it a secret.
The radioactive fuel (uranium and plutonium ) is still there buried 200ft down. Amazing to think how heavy that thing was that it buried half of itself 200ft down.
Its the "nuclear detonator" which they say is still buried there, the second core, is essentially the atomic bomb used to detonate a thermonuclear explosion.
An interesting article, and there's a couple of things I would mention, in regards to what JFK would have done if it went off, during the Cuban missile crisis the Soviet leader was convinced that JFK would launch against the Soviet Union if he was pushed, even though they not only had the missiles in Cuba, but also fast attack speed boats carrying nukes in order to attack the US coastal bases. Another fun fact that in the late 50's in New Mexico a nuke was dropped by accident just outside of the Albuquerque and it did actually explode the chemical explosive but not the nuclear trigger, talk about a serious pucker factor, which is one of the major problems when you look at how many times that the US government has accidentally dropped nukes over the years, that are known about (at least 4 more times that I've heard about) and why in this day and age there's so many safeties on standard nukes.
I was 10 yrs old at that time. We had air raid sirens that would be tested from time to time. I was terrified with each testing.
I'm shocked at what you have revealed in this video. It's all just a game to the Military Industrial Complex
Money, money, money...
Yeah, air raid sirens - and they had to be tested - during fifth period in junior high school - glad it was only once a month! Do a search for the TH-cam title _Chrysler V8 Air Raid Siren. At "Big Daddy" Don Garlits Museum of Drag Racing._ And this clip explains how they work (not how I thought, mechanical not electrical) _Klaxons; What makes them sound like that?_
Great story and perhaps explains a bit of why another bomb was lost in Warsaw Sound, just South of Savannah Georgia and never recovered, I guess that switch was set in No Boom back then. They say due to the swampy marshes of the area the bomb could not be found and so it still lays there to this day.
you cannot accidentally set off a nuke, they are made to be deliberately set off, in order to prevent a nuclear explosion from happening on accident and wiping out a US city
I live in NC a several miles from Goldsboro and that place scares the hell out of me. It’s like the remake of the Crazies but with a nuke. Just imagine being on that recovery team!
Would have been even more badass if the guy had jumped out of the B52 and held onto the bomb as it opened its parachute, Point Break style.
I was a child in the 80s and I still remember the nuclear drills we had to do every year at school. I lived about 30 miles outside of Washington D.C. on the Maryland side so everyone was on high alert until I turned 10 in the very early 90s. Good times I tell you.
Odd. I went to school in the 70s and 80s and never had one drill like that.
@@patricktaylor4431 really? We had to hide under our desks and everything lol
I went to grade school in the 60's and 70's and we never did the drills either. Guess they didn't care if we died back then.
@@MakeshiftMartyr I'm from Kentucky and I remember those drills. We actually had a fallout shelter between the two school, the elementary and middle schools. So it's possible since we had that we would practice going into it from time to time. I was a sensitive little soul, well still am, so I cried my eyes out the first couple times.
@@tubedude54 😂
Always look forward to and enjoy these videos. This has always been one of the more interesting stories that came out of the Cold War Era. Others include the B52 crash in Spain (which released nuclear bombs), another was the 1980 Damascus, Arkansas Titan II missile incident, where a dropped wrench set off a chain events ending with the missile exploding, blowing away the huge concrete blast doors over the silo and ejecting the bomb outside. Good times, right?
Oh yeah... I can still remember nuclear bomb drills in school... just what a younger generation should be taught. ;o)
Hahaha
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 I'm so wondering if that's better or worse than the active shooter drills of today.
I believe one of those nuclear bombs is still somewhere in the ocean oof the cost of Spain as well.
@@kbanghart Well, at least in elementary, we had "intruder" drills... They seem similar, but the bomb drills specifically got kids away from windows as if it was likely to make a difference.
We also had to "duck and cover" for a bomb that sounded like a really big firecracker we weren't supposed to look at...
A lot wrong with the 80's, but I occasionally miss my innocence. ;o)
Dude moved his hands so much in his ad that I couldn’t believe a word he said 🤣🤣
True Lol
Imagine in a very distant future where humans have gone back to hunting and gathering, and this goes off. I wonder what their reaction would be
Wonderful presentation once again, Thoughty. The best part of the story for me was the pilot jumping out of the plane and surviving. Excellent story.
Of all the excellent and brilliant Thoughty2 videos I’ve enjoyed over the years, this was easily the most chilling.
And if you know anything about the channel, you’ll find that’s saying something.
I currently live in the middle of former TITAN II missle base area of the former Stratigic Air Command McConnel Missle Wing in Kansas. In the 1980's I worked at the factory they all were built at and in fact operated the same 1956 Giddings & Lewis skinmill they were manufactured with. I remember (and could take you to) the former base sites around Wichita & south central Kansas as there is still evidence of their being.
9/2023: I've seen much on Nuks in my life. Born in 1952. This is a new one on me. I lived in Arlington Virginia at that time. Those were truly dangerous times for the world. They're getting that way again... "Humanity" is it's own dangerous weapon.
Educational and very interesting. Thank You and Best Regards.
My Grandpa saw the plane go down. I remember seeing that patch of random patch of trees in the middle of the field and wondering what its deal was. I played in that tree patch when I visited my Grandparents there.
at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buf
What's the plot twist?
What the fuck are you even talking about man...
That's kinda gross.
Why do you write this all the time
I enjoy your corndogs sir
1) the second core, we know where it is, it is just too dangerous to get to and is technically safer left in the ground. 2) It hasn't been a secret broken arrow incident for a very long time. There is even a plaque near the site where you can read all about it.
I could it not say about every of your clips, but this time very well done...!
Another wonderful job Arran! I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos and can only imagine the amount of research that is put into each and every one of them!
Love your stuff Thoughty2. You´re my favorite pre work/post work youtuber. Thank you for making my days bearable and a tad more interesting.
You are right, he is on my top 3 YT channels, along with Mr.Ballen and Fascinating Horror.
Honnorable mentions:
- Bedtime Stories
- Dark History
- Scary Interesting
If you don't know any of these, please try em out, they are worth it.
Cheers
@@mistral-unizion-music Thx mate, you just added to my list. Cheers!
Copse are often worked around by farmers in Britain.
Seeing a clump of trees, surrounded by fields is common.
That month the Air Force purchased:
A toilet seat for $5,000
A hammer for $3,000
and a Switch for, $2,000.
Looking back, we should all feel better about the Pentagon's frugal spending habits.
And just a couple hundred miles away is yet another lost nuclear weapon or broken arrow. Somewhere near Hilton Head Island and under several meters of mud and water is another fine example of military precision.
That's just the stuff we know about. It's no wonder people have no trust in governments when this is what they do as a hobby.
Man US problems are effing large scale. How many plutonium cores they have dropped around the world. I think there is one in Himalayas or there was I don't know.
main problem they have lost one whole bomb in a swamp. I can just imagine our future a dude decideds to build a skyscraper on a swamp because the city grew too much and turns out he digs up a intact bomb and goodbye city.@@IronFist080
Yet another great video by Arran. From now on I'll probably think about how close mankind came to potential catastrophe every time I flick a light switch.
Hey Tony too I live probably 20 minutes from there I live in Aden North Carolina right around the corner.. dispatch grass growing it glows at night lol
Yes, they are always ready to point their fingers to someone else to put the blame, which leaves us a question to whether 9 eleven was most probably also a finger pointing
I worked on B52s for 6 years. I’ve heard this story many many times. It’s terrifying and hilarious because of the decisions made. Also compared to the stupidity of flying nukes from Minot to Barksdale in 2011.
You never fail to amaze Thoughty2! This 1 was really great! You really are my 1 hero that I can brag & hype about to my fam & friends with full confidence that you want let me down! From the bottom of my heart, thank you to you and your team for the great work you guys do! Keep on keeping on!
Absolutely incredible story 👏.
I wonder if it's still possible for that core to explode after so many years have gone by. If so, what if a fire 🔥 incident occurs around that area.
And no mention of the radioactivity produced by this missing weapons grade plutonium? No one's used a geiger counter around there? I mean, it was radioactive. They couldn't trace where that was coming from? It seems there must be a whole lot more to this story.
That is too logically, we are dealing with the government, who downplayed the situation
They probably knew it opened 19.5 feet under the ground an just buried it an never even tried to look for it. But how's it ok to farm it an grow crops around it but not build on it. Wouldn't it leach into the ground water if anything ?
It’s probably still intact - remember, it’s designed to be robust enough to maintain it’s symmetry while being compressed by the explosive initiators. Also, it’s likely sufficiently well shielded that the sensing technology of the time couldn’t pinpoint it. Modern computer-based imaging systems that use radioactive sources, if adapted to the problem, could likely find it, given enough time to acquire data points.
This is assuming that the core in question is, in fact, the fission-based primary, and not the fusion-based secondary. If what’s missing is in fact the fusion core, there may not be enough radioactive material present to be a major hazard. I’m no atomic expert, but I was under the impression that the fuel used in the secondary was principally tritium; not plutonium or uranium as is used in the fission based primary.
Now see, I knew I wasn't the only person who thought this story smelled far too fishy to end on the way described. The recovery team was confident enough the radioactive material was dislodged from the bomb itself into the ground yet unable to find it at all but still certain it was somewhere under the field and stable enough that the field is still farmed to this very day?
“Excavation of the second bomb was eventually abandoned as a result of uncontrollable ground-water flooding. Most of the thermonuclear stage containing uranium and plutonium was left in place, but the "pit", or core, of the bomb which is needed to trigger a nuclear explosion was removed.”
Best description of the incident I’ve heard so far.
Perfect. TY.
Jet fuel never fails to sound so much more dramatic than kerosene :)
God ain't going to get cheated out of Revelation.
Yeah,.
We have one sitting out in the Puget Sound here in Washington.
I'm assuming salt water is a good storage medium. Because assuming it isn't... 🙄
Excellent work. You might want to do a full scale series for some of the big networks at some point in time.
I think he would also make a really good interviewer.
And loose any credibility that he has? Your better off staying on youtube.
Very interesting history lesson. The idea behind Chrome Dome ( patrolling B52s with nuclear weapons) is part of the story of 'Dr. Strangelove' with Peter Sellers. Did the public in the 1960s know that Chrome Dome existed?
Yes - the public knew about Strategic Air Command and their mission.
According to the DOD there are at least 6 broken arrows that have never been recovered, and that only what the us military is willing to acknowledge.
It's worrying when newly released documents highlight near misses during The Cold War. How we haven't all been nucked is purely luck. The incident in 1983 in a Soviet missle early warning station is my favourite. One man with a gut feeling decided to ignore Russian technology and not launch when instruments suggested that Russia was under attack by the USA.
Another great vid as usual thoughty2, your consistency is insane.
Mr Fourty 2 got a rocking new haircut
Your story telling is great!
I love watching your videos
I'm glad the crew got a mention.
Good video to share. But there were inconsistencies in your video. Bombers trail below refueling aircraft. Not vice versa. 3:15. Also the image of the redacted document talking about Ralph Lapp's book quotes it him saying the incident had a 24MT warhead, but the mark39/W39 was under 4MT - that wasn't addressed. 10:23. Also there is research that the un-recovered secondary core/cylinder was much deeper -possibly as deep as 60m. The tail was recovered only about 6m below ground.
The amount of nuclear warheads that just went missing during the cold War is scary I think there was one that went into a swamp that they couldn't locate and the ones the soviets had after the cold war ended how many of them got sold or just dispeard
If the soviets had sold a nuclear warhead, we would know about. Someone who has interest in buying a nuclear bomb either does so to scare off others or to use it. Or would you be hiding a radioactive nuke in your basement just for fun?
Thermonuclear (fusion) bombs require a small fission bomb as a detonator to set off the fusion bomb. That is how much energy that is required to cause the deuterium (H2) to star fusing into helium. A fission bomb require TNT place in precise positions on both ends of a tube that contains the two halves of an uranium sphere that have to detonate at precisely the same time so the two haves of the uranium sphere can be slammed together with enough force to initiate fission in the uranium. The slightest bit of misalignment will make it impossible for the fission bomb to detonate.
Crashing into the ground will cause that misalignment to occur. That is the main reason why all nuclear bombs dropped from aircraft have to detonate while still in the air.
That's the best discription I've ever heard.
so, those lost nukes will never go off? what about erosion over the years? thx!!
Love this channel. Always something interesting to watch while eating lunch.
You didn't mention that aside from the tens of thousands that would die outright as well as the millions that would experience nuclear fallout...
If the weapon had gone off, it could also have been the thing that sparked MAD as a whole bunch of people would be itching to retaliate against Russia for they would not know that this was a broken arrow incident and not just an attack.
And we've been on the brink of all out nuclear war many times. One time when the Russian advance warning system malfunctioned and were screaming "THE US HAS LAUNCHED ALL THEIR NUKES WAAA WAAA WAAA" but there was just one Russian commander that refused to believe it, didn't follow protocol and didn't initiate a retaliatory strike.
I'm so glad I found this channel. Remarkable voice and quality
What an interesting video but to say that everybody has been incredibly lucky that those two Hydrogen nuclear bombs did not explode is pure understatement. I'm really surprised that I never heard about this story but I was especially surprised that the USAIRFORCE knew the big issues with the wings yet they let it fly carrying those bombs? I find it incredible also because some of the crew lost their life! Really a good job you did 👍👍👍
That's how Governments work...
Maybe it went deeper than had thought or the rod went flying out and is somewhere around the hole we have ground penetrating sonar and stuff like that now so I don't know why they haven't found it
What, and they're eating food from that field!?!
(And that whole catchment basin)
Brilliant piece of History.
Narrated by the man that has been for me, and for a good while, the best storyteller on TH-cam.
"42"
As a North Carolina local, I'm happy you covered this. It's one of our lesser known interesting facts.
"I'm no aviation expert."
Yeah - no shit.
Funny thing is the British countryside is peppered with those little patches of woodland in the middle of fields as they're fox hunting coverts, I don't think any of them have nuclear bomb cores hidden there
As always, great story, well told. I always watch these stories whilst eating my evening meal 😁
I was pooping.
I work at an aircraft heavy maintenance facility and I can confirm, wings falling apart mid-flight is not compatible with lift
thats crazy....ud think the wings falling off would make it more streamlined lol
I don't know how they could not find the core.
It is highly radioactive
I would start searching for a mile around the site.
It most likely was blown out from the site and buried itself in the ground nearby
Your video is quite entertaining. For the many Opps moments in US, Nuclear history. Try the novel Command and Control by Eric Schlosser. Its amazing we have not blown ourselves up, many times over. The Damascus Accident was a real blast.
The core of the bomb which is comprised of fissile (radioactive material) which is needed to trigger a nuclear explosion, was removed. Subsequently the Army Corps of Engineers purchased a 400-foot diameter circular easement over the buried component. The site of the easement is clearly visible as a circle of trees in the middle of a plowed field on Google Earth. Note: Although a number of switches were activated, the weapon could not have detonated since the PAL codes (permissive action link) were never entered into the device, via the crew, before release.
Are you speculating or know this as a fact and how ?
@@mrgcav What I stated is historical fact and something I've known for some time. That said your query made me suspect you were in disbelief. Hence, here is the complete text as found on Wikipedia.
"Excavation of the second bomb was eventually abandoned as a result of uncontrollable ground-water flooding. Most of the thermonuclear stage containing uranium and plutonium was left in place, but the "pit", or core, of the bomb which is needed to trigger a nuclear explosion was removed.[14] The United States Army Corps of Engineers purchased a 400-foot (120 m) diameter circular easement over the buried component.[16][17] The site of the easement, at 35°29′34″N 77°51′31.2″W, is clearly visible as a circle of trees in the middle of a plowed field on Google Earth. The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill determined the buried depth of the secondary component to be 180 ± 10 feet (55 ± 3 m).[13]"Hence.
Btw, I'm a pilot and the acft I fly is capable of carrying a (single) nuclear weapon. The B61 to be exact. Btw, that isn't classified and is publicly available information.
“Why did the most powerful military on earth by a random patch of turf“
“It probably won’t surprise you one bit that this was utter bull shit”
Bars 🔥🔥
Truth should be sacrificed more often in favour of cripple rhyme.
This story is so extraordinary ! Dozens of nuke bombs were lost during this horrible cold war period ! But Technically, wikipedia says that the half- "life" duration of Plutonium 238 is 88 years and Plutonium 239 has a half-life of 24,000 years, etc... This means that the poor US citizens who live within an unknown range around this lost highly radio-active material will have to live with this threat for many thousands of years (Most of them not even being aware of this danger as it will be forgotten after a few centuries !!!!!!). This terrifies me ! Could anybody really concerned contact again high ranking officials, governor or senator for them to restart inquiries with modern search systems and finally retrieve ALL these lost A or H bombs and ALL of this terrific substance and secure it for the sake of all potential victims ???? I pray for this !
The small core travelled more than 30m so it hit a rocky substrata and eventually stopped. Drill a borehole and using Geiger counters where the core is by now that core is getting hot over time plutonium pits are usually have a shelf life of 12 years and it starts to change it's not the same material so it might be polluting the ground water or if it hits a spring the core would react like a nuclear power plant with the water being a moderator the US did a sloppy recovery effort.
My father, just a child 6 y/o in 1960 still refuses to talk about life during this era. I couldn’t even imagine the amount of paranoia and anxiety believing the world could end at any time.
And.... welcome back to those times... were living it again bahahahaha
duck and cover
@@vast634 My father served in the Soviet strategic missile forces, and according to him, duck and cover was actually the right thing to do. Because to die from direct effects of a nuclear blast meant you were a VIP at one of the key sites. In which case, light up a cigar and take a sip of good scotch; out of the corner of your eye you may catch a streak in the sky like a plane makes but 20x faster, from a reentry vehicle, the first of a dozen or so to connect to your site. Your eyes will have seen what happens next but the brain won't be there to process the visual nerve's signal. 80% of the common folk would die from the EMP taking out the supply chains and the fabric of society with them. There will be NO warning except maybe a few min prior just for history books, as a warning would interfere with extraction of key personnel, and 80% of folks dying is part of the national survival strategy - there simply won't be use or resources for them.
However, 1960s / 70s EMP will induce 50,000 volts per each meter or yard of conductor. Copper or iron water or gas pipes are conductors, and they may burst as a result. Ducking and covering will protect you from such effects.