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  • @matt-parkers-evil-twin
    @matt-parkers-evil-twin 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1105

    11:45
    "At least I tried"
    *brady zooms in on the parker square*
    that just feels mean...

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

      I had to laugh out loud. So savage.

    • @ChrisBreederveld
      @ChrisBreederveld 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Yeah, just the sneaky diss of zooming in made me laugh

    • @JorgeLopez-qj8pu
      @JorgeLopez-qj8pu 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🤣

    • @WaffleAbuser
      @WaffleAbuser 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      “I hate to be that on brand”
      Right in the feels

    • @niklashagg7112
      @niklashagg7112 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      So, is this a Parker discovery or a Parker proof?

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1204

    I like when "soon on Numberphile" means "now on Numberphile but you have to click on a link in the description."

    • @zzzaphod8507
      @zzzaphod8507 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      That's pretty soon!

    • @VestalNumbre
      @VestalNumbre 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Can they doe math on the Bible effects on the mind ?

    • @SwordQuake2
      @SwordQuake2 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@VestalNumbre what?

    • @NoorEdits999
      @NoorEdits999 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Loooolll

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@VestalNumbre given the state of your mind, maybe you need a new Bible?

  • @bernhardkrickl3567
    @bernhardkrickl3567 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +513

    When is Matt gonna write a book called "Things to make and do with terrible Python code"?

    • @KBRoller
      @KBRoller 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      async def fork():
      while True:
      await fork()
      await fork()

    • @TechnoHackerVid
      @TechnoHackerVid 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@KBRollersomehow I feel that code would just recurse rather than fork bomb

    • @KBRoller
      @KBRoller 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TechnoHackerVid Well, yes and no. It'll be a fork bomb, but only until the stack overflows, and then it'll just crash 😂 The proper fork bomb form would be to spin off a thread or process for each of those forks, but that's more code than I wanted to write in a TH-cam comment 😁 (And actually, it may *only* work with multiprocessing; I'm not sure. But Python threads don't work the way most threading does, because of the GIL, so there's a chance a Python thread-based fork bomb wouldn't even work.)

    • @pierrecurie
      @pierrecurie 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KBRoller Just spin off additional python processes with multiprocessing.

    • @KBRoller
      @KBRoller 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pierrecurie ...that...is what I said.

  • @tehbertl7926
    @tehbertl7926 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +624

    e^(π√163) is a Parker integer.

    • @Charliehuangmagic
      @Charliehuangmagic 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      which basically meant it is NOT an integer XD

    • @blue_tetris
      @blue_tetris 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      That classic Parker enthusiasm when he got to e^(π√19). I expected him to say, "It's not an integer, but it's less than 1 away from an integer!"

    • @KBRoller
      @KBRoller 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      @@blue_tetris "But aren't all non-integers less than 1 away from an integer?" "Ignoring that and moving on..."

    • @russelleverson9915
      @russelleverson9915 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      ​@@blue_tetris I can do you one better: it's less than 0.5 away from an integer!

  • @waffling0
    @waffling0 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +697

    "The integers are a field"
    ah yes, a Parker field

    • @mattlm64
      @mattlm64 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

      I guess a ring shall be known as a Parker field from now on.

    • @eliasmochan
      @eliasmochan 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@mattlm64 an integral domain. I think calling Z/4Z a Parker field would be like calling the square with all 1s a Parker square.

    • @05degrees
      @05degrees 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      BTW I think he was actually to say “rationals”. I see this state very familiar when he tried to explain what a field is in a simplest way possible off the bat and pausing each word; I find contexts like this blocking my own brain in some way and then I’m derailed and make mistakes; maybe something like that happened. (The joke about a Parker field is still obviously gold unrelated to this attempt at explanation.)

  • @larsdebrabander3613
    @larsdebrabander3613 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +404

    that zoom on the end was hilarious

  • @DjImpossibility
    @DjImpossibility 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +371

    "The integers are a field"... Such a Parker thing to say

    • @seijurouhiko
      @seijurouhiko 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Came here in the comments looking for this comment. Thx!

    • @guruone
      @guruone 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      But... are integers green?

    • @RolandHutchinson
      @RolandHutchinson 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

      Well, a ring is sort of a Parker field, wouldn't you say?

    • @6cef
      @6cef 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@@RolandHutchinson actually, i think british mathematicians call fields parker rings

    • @sudhenduahir802
      @sudhenduahir802 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Came here to say this..

  • @algorithmizer
    @algorithmizer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +166

    8:29 The true journey of mathematics is the stunning joy of discovering something only to realize someone did it before...

    • @threadripper979
      @threadripper979 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      And just like Ramanujan was wrong here, he was wrong about the sum of all integers being equal to -1/12

    • @Nolord_
      @Nolord_ 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@threadripper979Actually, Ramanujan never knew about e^(π√163) and the sum of all integers does equal -1/12 in some sense, that is not the usual sense.

    • @threadripper979
      @threadripper979 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Nolord_ Sure, if you ignore converging series vs. diverging series rules. LOL

    • @Nolord_
      @Nolord_ 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@threadripper979 Yeah and complex numbers do not exist, LOL.

    • @threadripper979
      @threadripper979 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@Nolord_ Get real; be rational.

  • @davecorry7723
    @davecorry7723 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +223

    The Caboose numbers fizzled out: I wasn't impressed.
    The treehouse numbers give _near_ integers: I wasn't impressed.
    Matt finds a connection between the two: I WAS SUPER IMPRESSED.
    Matt reveals he didn't find that connection: I wasn't impressed.
    Matt gives a little talk on the connection: I was impressed again.

    • @distinctdipole
      @distinctdipole 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      You missed out "Matt writes terrible Python code: I wasn't surprised".
      Sorry Matt, I do love you and your terrible Python code.

    • @Platanov
      @Platanov 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      This is the true armchair mathematician's journey.

    • @newwaveinfantry8362
      @newwaveinfantry8362 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What a rollercoaster!

  • @hasch5756
    @hasch5756 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +151

    e^π(√-1) gives -1.0000000000000, which is arguably closer to an integer than e^(π√163)

    • @softy8088
      @softy8088 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

      If you follow that through to the corresponding caboose number, n²-n+0 is a prime for all positive integers less than 0. Amazing!

    • @ianstopher9111
      @ianstopher9111 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      e^π(√-1) = -0.999999999999999999999999.... as many 9s as you could possibly want.

    • @chingpongsiu1508
      @chingpongsiu1508 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was going to leave the same comment, but I saw yours~ 👍

    • @xinpingdonohoe3978
      @xinpingdonohoe3978 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@softy8088 it's weird and wonderful how that statement of yours is true. No counterexamples exist to make it false, so it is not false. So it's true. Or maybe independent. But who's going to make an axiom stating "n²-n+0 is prime for all positive integers less than 0"?

    • @DeadJDona
      @DeadJDona 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is related to Г(n²-n)

  • @Jaeghead
    @Jaeghead 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +242

    Brady seems to have forgotten that he's already made a video about these numbers 12 years ago, it was titled '163 and Ramanujan Constant'.

    • @EPMTUNES
      @EPMTUNES 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

      a numberphile classic. back when they used to just do one number and talk about it.

    • @sadaharu5870
      @sadaharu5870 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Funny cause I just watched that video lol

    • @ianstopher9111
      @ianstopher9111 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I was convinced this could not be the first time Heegner numbers had been mentioned.

    • @LeoStaley
      @LeoStaley 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I knew this sounded familiar!

    • @syjwg
      @syjwg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for mentioning that! I've found the video.

  • @thomasjdurfee
    @thomasjdurfee 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +99

    Recommendation to the new viewer: They say at the start of the video that you don't *need* to see the first video, and that is true, but the conclusion of this video is deeply pleasing if you watch the other video first.

    • @Kyle-nm1kh
      @Kyle-nm1kh 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You need the foreplay to appreciate the climax

  • @usernamenotfound80
    @usernamenotfound80 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    "The integers are a field." - Matt Parker, 2024

  • @DubioserKerl
    @DubioserKerl 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +379

    Maths God to Euler and Ramanujan: "Why is it always the two of you if something mathemagically strange happens?"

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

      In this case, the answer is: because it's a meme. Ramanujan didn't discover this number and he didn't lie to people about it being an integer. Martin Gardner did as an April Fool's joke and just claimed it was Ramanujan who said it.

    • @Catman_321
      @Catman_321 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Them: "idk why'd you put it there"

    • @andrasszabo1570
      @andrasszabo1570 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Usually it"s Euler and Gauss

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Don't forget Gauss!

    • @AquaWeiner
      @AquaWeiner 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@ArawnOfAnnwnYeah Gauss is just crazy, the greatest imo

  • @ShiningRaven
    @ShiningRaven 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    I think that Matt might have misspoken at 10:20.
    The integers do not constitute a field as they aren't closed under taking multiplicative inverses (dividing two integers generally does not result in an integer). Matt was probably thinking of the rationals or the reals

    • @dojelnotmyrealname4018
      @dojelnotmyrealname4018 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wouldn't they be a field if restricted to the addition and subtraction operators?

    • @ShiningRaven
      @ShiningRaven 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 Not as such. Typically in algebra, we don't think of subtraction as a binary operation, but instead as a shorthand for expressions of the form a+(-b).
      We can instead equip the integers with the operations of addition and multiplication, which turns the integers into what we call a ring. But the integers still only contain inverses with respect to addition.
      In order to obtain a field, we need to extend to the rational numbers (or something bigger).

    • @charliesteiner2334
      @charliesteiner2334 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Or to something smaller! (Modular arithmetic)

    • @jonasgajdosikas1125
      @jonasgajdosikas1125 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      it's a parker field

    • @JGMeador444
      @JGMeador444 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I'm almost certain that he meant the integers modulo prime numbers constitute fields. He definitely misspoke, but I think that's what he was going for.

  • @mikeebrady
    @mikeebrady 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    "At least you tried."
    Zooms in on the Parker Square. savage.

  • @LaGuerre19
    @LaGuerre19 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    "Suspiciously close to an integer" is my new favorite maths term of all-time 😂
    I mean, just the pure, firm rigor of the concept 😂😂

    • @SteelBlueVision
      @SteelBlueVision 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Reminds me of a college student's answer to an indefinite integral he could not solve, so he wrote as the answer: 0 + C. When asked why in the world he provided that answer when he knew that it would obviously be wrong, he stated that this is in fact the correct solution to the problem and any indefinite integral problem. His rationalization of this was that give that the constant is arbitrary by definition, we can make said constant take on whatever value we want to make the solution correct for any integral. This proves once again the old adage that a false hypothesis can always lead to a vacuously true conclusion.

    • @anosmianAcrimony
      @anosmianAcrimony 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They definitely fall within the set of interesting numbers

    • @yonimaor1005
      @yonimaor1005 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They could have just defined "Treehouseness" of a number n as the relative deviation from an integer it gives in that the exp(pi*sqrt(n)).

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +93

    Wait, this wasn't found by Ramanujan! Wolfram Mathworld says: Although Ramanujan (1913-1914) gave few rather spectacular examples of almost integers (such e^(pisqrt(58))), he did not actually mention the particular near-identity given above. In fact, Hermite (1859) observed this property of 163 long before Ramanujan's work. The name "Ramanujan's constant" was coined by Simon Plouffe and derives from an April Fool's joke played by Martin Gardner (Apr. 1975) on the readers of Scientific American. In his column, Gardner claimed that e^(pisqrt(163)) was exactly an integer, and that Ramanujan had conjectured this in his 1914 paper. Gardner admitted his hoax a few months later (Gardner, July 1975).

    • @vsm1456
      @vsm1456 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      how do people discover things like that before computers. it blows my mind :D

    • @unvergebeneid
      @unvergebeneid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      @@vsm1456 Apparently by not having computers and therefore nothing but time on their hands to compute stuff like this by hand :D

    • @JohnDoe-ti2np
      @JohnDoe-ti2np 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vsm1456 Hermite didn't discover it by computing lots of numbers blindly and hoping to find a pattern. There's a special function in mathematics called the j-invariant. On the one hand, there is some theory that tells us that j((1 + sqrt(-d))/2) is an integer if a certain number system (the "ring of integers of Q(sqrt(-d))") has unique factorization. In particular, the ring of integers of Q(sqrt(-163)) has unique factorization. On the other hand, there is an infinite series expression for j that tells us that j((1 + sqrt(-163))/2) is very close to e^(pi*sqrt(163)). If you know this underlying theory then you can deduce that e^(pi*sqrt(163)) is very close to an integer without having to explicitly calculate e^(pi*sqrt(163)).

    • @not-on-pizza
      @not-on-pizza 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@unvergebeneid Funny you say that. The term "computer" was originally used to refer to people who did all of the heavy calculations involved in creating mathematical tables for trigonometric functions, that were widely used until the mid-20th Century in a number of fields (engineering and navigation).

    • @JohnDoe-ti2np
      @JohnDoe-ti2np 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vsm1456 Hermite didn't discover it by computing lots of numbers blindly and hoping to find a pattern. There's a special function in mathematics called the j-invariant. On the one hand, there is some theory that tells us that j((1 + sqrt(-d))/2) is an integer if a certain number system (the "ring of integers of Q(sqrt(-d))") has unique factorization. On the other hand, there is an infinite series expression for j that tells us that j((1 + sqrt(-d))/2) is very close to e^(pi*sqrt(163)). If you know this underlying theory then you can deduce that e^(pi*sqrt(163)) is very close to an integer without having to explicitly calculate e^(pi*sqrt(163)).

  • @whophd
    @whophd 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    “Just off the top of my head” … camera points to the top of Matt’s head

  • @benburdick9834
    @benburdick9834 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Big respect to Matt for sharing all the near misses that happen when doing math.

    • @SteelBlueVision
      @SteelBlueVision 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Like missing the correct definition of a field, by including integers as an example.

  • @DavidDyte1969
    @DavidDyte1969 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    This epiphany happened for me in discovering a recurrence relation for multiplicities of eigenvalues in the stochastic matrices generated by the move-to-front rule for the linear search problem. I still remember the moment and it was over 30 years ago. Mathematics is the best.

  • @zanshibumi
    @zanshibumi 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    "If? we'd like to watch more videos with Matt Parker?" Of course we want to watch more videos with Matt Parker. We've aready watched all those.

    • @37wheels
      @37wheels 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      well, we'd nearly like to watch more videos. We'd almost like to watch more videos. We're suspiciously close to wanting to watch more videos. But sadly, in the end, we're just slightly off wanting to watch more videos.

  • @MB256s
    @MB256s 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    652 and 1467 after 163 are just 163*4 and 163*9, which means the numbers you obtain afterwards are just the square and the cube of the original Ramanujan's constant.
    But that makes me think... If we write Ramanujan's constant as (N-eps), then, we get that (N-eps)^2=N^2-2*N*eps+eps^2. Now, eps is small, but 2*N*eps seems to be much larger than 1, which means that, in principle, it (and by extension the final result, eps^2 is clearly negligible) has no reason to be also close to an integer. And yet, (N-eps)^2 is still very close to an integer? Same with -3*N^2*eps for the cube, and also +3*N*eps^2, which is probably less than 1 but still about 100 times the offset of the cube from the integer, which means that that term also plays a role in correcting the number, if I did the computations right.
    I know that there is a lot of complicated maths behind these numbers, but is there a chance we might hear more about this?

    • @officialEricBG
      @officialEricBG 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      look up the j-invariant

  • @tonybielecki9360
    @tonybielecki9360 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    A mathematical proof that e^(π√163)=integer was reported in the Mathematical Games column in Scientific American magazine in April 1975. Years later, I realized that it was an April Fools hoax. The same column announced other amazing discoveries, one of which had to do with the Four Color Map Conjecture.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Interestingly, the numbers that Matt found, 652 and 1,467, are just 2^2 and 3^2 times the Heegner number 163. (noticed this because this is such a fundamental mystery in modern number theory that we would've heard of the numbers 651 and 1,467 if they weren't so directly related to 163)

    • @yonimaor1005
      @yonimaor1005 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If exp(pi*sqrt(n)) ≈ integer
      Then exp(pi*sqrt(x^2*n)) = (exp(pi*sqrt(n))^x ≈ integer^x
      which is integer if x is integer

    • @animaniacsfan2
      @animaniacsfan2 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@yonimaor1005 I don't think that explains it, though. exp(pi*sqrt(163)) is about 10^17, and is about 10^-12 away from an integer. At that scale, the error is more than enough to change the square by 1, which means if you round exp(pi*sqrt(163)) to an integer and then square it, the answer is more than one away from exp(pi*sqrt(163))^2. So there must be a different reason why exp(pi*sqrt(163))^2 and exp(pi*sqrt(163))^3 are almost integers.

    • @yonimaor1005
      @yonimaor1005 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@animaniacsfan2 You are right. I was wrong.
      This is an example of the symbol ≈ being mal-defined and should not be used.

  • @pion137
    @pion137 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Brady is king of naming numbers!

  • @viniciusploposki4618
    @viniciusploposki4618 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Parker is the best exemple of not being afraid to give It a try. Wish I was like that.

    • @hedlund
      @hedlund 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's learnable, to some extent. Start small. Doesn't really matter what, so long as you a) Actually do try, and; b) Remember that failure is a great teacher, and use that to your advantage.
      Can take years and years, but it's well worth the effort.

  • @toolebukk
    @toolebukk 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +149

    In honour of Brady, I will forever call Heegner numbers Treehouse numbers instead.

    • @nintendoswitchfan4953
      @nintendoswitchfan4953 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      underrated

    • @Slowphoton
      @Slowphoton 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This side of the pond we spell it “honor” so get on the program soldier.

    • @willnewman9783
      @willnewman9783 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Mathematicians already did Heegner dirty, and now you are trying to bring that back. Poor Heegner

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Slowphoton Neither of the people featured in this video are from your side of the pond bruh

  • @ianstopher9111
    @ianstopher9111 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Sadly, Heegner died without his proof of the Stark-Heegner theorem being accepted. Sometimes considered an amateur mathematician, his proof was ignored by many for years.
    I came across the Stark-Heegner theorem in the context of studying factorisation and I was very taken aback that these 9 numbers are the only ones that provide for quadratic imaginary number fields whose rings are PIDs. The Wikipedia page on Heegner numbers provides a rabbit hole of possibilities.

  • @punkdigerati
    @punkdigerati 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    That zoom in was iconic, thank you Brady.

  • @numberphile
    @numberphile  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Caboose Numbers (Part 1): th-cam.com/video/gM5uNcgn2NQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @JWentu
    @JWentu 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    9:06 I feel off the chair laughing... the face he makes while saying that deserves a painting

  • @Epsilon3141
    @Epsilon3141 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I propose they be called “Parker integers”

    • @renerpho
      @renerpho 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They form a Parker field.

  • @robo3007
    @robo3007 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    ( pi + pi + e ) / 3 is also incredibly close to an integer

    • @DeadJDona
      @DeadJDona 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      (3 + 3 + 3) / 3 ≈ suspiciously close to engineer

  • @Frahamen
    @Frahamen 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Try smaller numbers, like -1

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Holy frick

    • @xinpingdonohoe3978
      @xinpingdonohoe3978 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've checked 12 trillion decimal places. All 0s so far. I know there are infinitely many 0s. At least 40% of the decimals are 0s. But I won't stop until I've seen if all of them are 0s.

  • @Toon81ehv
    @Toon81ehv 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Here I am writing a Rust program, in like 15 minutes I've checked 8 million numbers for caboose numbers, only to be bested by Matt proving there aren't any!

  • @SeanKennedy
    @SeanKennedy 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "Try something, and it doesn't always work." That deserves to be a poster or t-shirt with the Parker Square.

  • @U014B
    @U014B 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    While using -1 as a treehouse number does produce a true integer, adding 1 to it and dividing by 4 does not produce a valid caboose number. It seems we've got a Heisenberg situation with this relationship.

    • @roomfullofpigeons
      @roomfullofpigeons 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      (-1+1)/4 =0, and 0 is vacuosly a carboose number as there are no natural numbers less than zero.

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    These numbers are also connected to the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem via modular forms. I have no idea in what way but I found that interesting while we're on the topic of unexpected connections between seemingly unrelated mathematical facts or even fields.

  • @PC_Simo
    @PC_Simo 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    0:41 Transcendental numbers, like e and π are like those MVPs, who know they’re super important: ”We don’t need to behave well, because we know we’re super important, for Mathematics, as a whole. We can’t be replaced. You, folks, need us!”. 😅

  • @BenAlternate-zf9nr
    @BenAlternate-zf9nr 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    A process that generates random normal reals should get within 1/10^12 of an integer about 2/10^12 of the time just by chance, so it's not at all obvious that there shouldn't have been an infinite number of these.

  • @DanatronOne
    @DanatronOne 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think you might get quite close to an integer if you use the treehouse number -1
    ;)

  • @irober02
    @irober02 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Labrador unimpressed - dreaming of its next meal.

  • @twrhancock
    @twrhancock 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I'm getting major Parker Square vibes about this

  •  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    glad I watched this one before I started writing a script to enumarate more Caboose numbers :D

    • @XJScott
      @XJScott 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Alternatively: The Journey is the Reward

  • @aner_bda
    @aner_bda 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The zoom in on the Parker Square though, that was perfect. 🤣

  • @JMUDoc
    @JMUDoc 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "We need a name for these numbers..."
    Kurt Heegner: "What am I? Chopped liver?!"

  • @nekogod
    @nekogod 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    e^(pi*sqrt(-1)) is an integer.

  • @uesdtosignin1038
    @uesdtosignin1038 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    2:36 In fact, that is the example how you get your name after something while you have nothing to do with it at all. The number was discovered in 1859 (28 years before Ramanujan born) by the mathematician Charles Hermite. And "Mathematical Games" columnist Martin Gardner made the hoax claim that "the number was in fact an integer, and that the Indian mathematical genius Srinivasa Ramanujan had predicted it".

  • @Locut0s
    @Locut0s 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love how Matt always uses the term “terrible Python code” all the time. It’s really very validating for those who like to code just for fun and to get results and explore stuff. Which honestly outside of the realm of software development really should be what people are using coding for, fun and exploration.

  • @Hadar1991
    @Hadar1991 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    10:20 Integers in fact are NOT a field. He probably though about rational numbers.

  • @annahanslope7528
    @annahanslope7528 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    For 101×4-1 (which is 403). e^(π√403) isn't close to an integer, but what it is close to is an integer+(3/8)

  • @WAMTAT
    @WAMTAT 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

    So this is the Caboose video?

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      This is the first class carriage

    • @williamnathanael412
      @williamnathanael412 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is the Parker video

    • @alansmithee419
      @alansmithee419 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This is post-caboose.

    • @someoneunknown6553
      @someoneunknown6553 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is the caboose to the caboose video

    • @Amonimus
      @Amonimus 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No, this is Patrick.

  • @SatisfyingWhirlpools
    @SatisfyingWhirlpools 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is the first Numberphile video in a while that has me completely gobsmacked.

  • @vitaminluke5597
    @vitaminluke5597 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I thought i was about to walk into another "e^π is approximately 20+π" but I'm happy to be surprised

    • @xinpingdonohoe3978
      @xinpingdonohoe3978 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      At least that result becomes nicer when you see where it's from, and it also uses π≈22/7 to get e^π≈20+π.

  • @yanntal954
    @yanntal954 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    2:49 Parker integer

  • @toolebukk
    @toolebukk 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "Zeroes have same effect as 9s for closeness to an integer"
    😂
    Yeah thanks mate ❤

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's correct though?

  • @Marcel-yu2fw
    @Marcel-yu2fw 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's a Parker integer!

  • @minmagletsplay6710
    @minmagletsplay6710 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ❤ What a cool coalation. I love when the same pattern appears in two seemingly unrelated places.

  • @leonardofontenelle3560
    @leonardofontenelle3560 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Matt already has his square, let Ramanuyan have his integer!

  • @dannymac6368
    @dannymac6368 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The ending was so perfectly done. 🤗

  • @TranscendentBen
    @TranscendentBen 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    11:38 "It's good to publish our null results." This was discussed by Richard Feynman in his "Cargo Cult Science" essay/speech, easily found online.

  • @joedeshon
    @joedeshon 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By FAR, the best Numberphile video EVER!!!

  • @xanderfett8423
    @xanderfett8423 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love you Matt and Numberphile ❤

  • @guillaumelagueyte1019
    @guillaumelagueyte1019 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh damn, I suspected when seeing the previous video that there may be a link between Caboose numbers and Heegner numbers, and at the beginning I suspected that the last Caboose number would be 163, but then as I saw that the two lists didn't match I dropped the idea. Seems like there is a link between the two, and I just didn't see the pattern. Nice to know that my intuition was correct though

  • @wobblysauce
    @wobblysauce 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We almost need a part 3...

  • @quezzert
    @quezzert 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    i thought for sure he was gonna write the square root of -1...

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Numberphile rarely goes near the complex zone

  • @joequincy5574
    @joequincy5574 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love this new "off the top of my head" bit Matt used in these.

  • @robertcarroll9855
    @robertcarroll9855 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In his Mathematical Games column in the April 1975 issue of Scientific American, Martin Gardner claims that e^(pi√163) is an integer (he also displayed a map that he claimed needed five colors). The column was an April Fool's joke.

  • @finefreefine9994
    @finefreefine9994 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very funny. I wrote code to find all the complex numbers that conjugate to primes and found this same relation. Nice to see it explained so well here.

  • @catherinebaldwin6580
    @catherinebaldwin6580 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love it when Brady gives a list of numbers a name. Treehouse Numbers! I love it.

  • @blumousey
    @blumousey 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Matt Parker is such a legend. I love his videos 😝❤️

  • @mustafasahinturk9651
    @mustafasahinturk9651 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This guy always do things almost spectacular. Such a parker square...

  • @liamogrady5868
    @liamogrady5868 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    For those interested, if the large integer at the beginning represented the circumference of the earth, then the level of precision given by e^pi*sqrt(163) would give the circumference with an error of about 40 micrometers. That's about as big as one of your skin cells can get. Incidentally it's also the lower limit of human vision, so if those two numbers were wrapped around the entirety of the earth, you would not be able to see the difference.

  • @YTEdy
    @YTEdy 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What's truly remarkable is that every number is within 0.5 of an integer.

    • @billberg1264
      @billberg1264 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If we're being pedantic, I don't think that necessarily applies to non-real numbers.

    • @YTEdy
      @YTEdy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@billberg1264 I stand corrected.

  • @jeffreybernath6627
    @jeffreybernath6627 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good on you Matt, for giving it a go!

  • @darreljones8645
    @darreljones8645 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've seen other Numberphile videos, as well as some on Brady's channel, Stand-up Maths, and I've never seen that dog before (the one resting on the couch). Indeed, I never knew Matt or Brady even HAD a dog.

  • @SJrad
    @SJrad 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:14 if you think about it, euler’s identity fits this pattern since i is sqrt(-1), but it actually does give a whole number, -1.

  • @Zach010ROBLOX
    @Zach010ROBLOX 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like to think that many viewers are like the dog on Matt's couch, taking an afternoon or evening nap falling asleep to interesting maths facts

  • @JamesTM
    @JamesTM 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The zoom-in on the Parker Square is both savage and hilarious. 😆

  • @levishadow
    @levishadow 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love how Skylab is relaxing in the background :D

  • @henrygreen2096
    @henrygreen2096 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Matt said something that really made me love undergrad physics actually. It's when you can't solve something, or get an experimental conclusion that you expect or looking for BUT YOU KNOW WHY you can't get it.
    Like being able to explain why to me makes all the difference. having something mess up and you're in the dark about it sucks haha.
    Great video!

  • @litigioussociety4249
    @litigioussociety4249 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    It's a Parker discovery.

    • @maximiliandc2
      @maximiliandc2 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I was about to say that there seems to be a theme going on here...

  • @barrysoper9183
    @barrysoper9183 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, a video to replace the “Parker Square”. ❤ You’re the best, Matt.

  • @convindix9638
    @convindix9638 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All numbers below 2,000,000 which give 6 nines: 478233, 881967, 1053883, 1341615
    ...which give 6 zeros: 2608, 880111
    ...which give 7+ nines: 163, 1467, 1844122
    ...which give 7+ zeros: 652

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:47 Matt heard Brady is cataloguing all the Brown Paper and thought "time to make things difficult!"

  • @janpoec9655
    @janpoec9655 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It intuitively makes sense that 652 and 1467 work almost as well as 163, since they are 4*163 and 9*163. Apparently, 16*163 also works.

  • @arcanics1971
    @arcanics1971 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've probably known Matt Parker sans hair as long as I ever knew Matt Parker with hair, but whenever I see a video has Matt Parker in it, I am always mildly surprised that he no longer has hair.

  • @stolenlaptop
    @stolenlaptop 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Discovering something that is already known is such a parker thing to do.

  • @rudyvigil6928
    @rudyvigil6928 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing, it was new to me.

  • @PaulPaulPaulson
    @PaulPaulPaulson 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    From now on, zeros are known as Parker nines

  • @JimWarp93
    @JimWarp93 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The "revelation" actually gave me goosebumps 🤩👍

  • @misterdubity3073
    @misterdubity3073 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nicely done.

  • @happy_labs
    @happy_labs 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's wild that Ramanujan calculated that to such precision before the age of computers.

  • @DontMockMySmock
    @DontMockMySmock 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    absolutely brutal zoom-in on the Parker Square at the end

  • @vicenteroberts3009
    @vicenteroberts3009 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a Parker Maths Journey.

  • @ffc1a28c7
    @ffc1a28c7 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another very interesting relationship with these numbers is that the corresponding field can be used to show that Fermat's Last Theorem is not true for a non-trivial set of numbers (I think for something up to all integers less than 100, though it's been a while since I did an algebraic number theory course)

  • @abdulllllahhh
    @abdulllllahhh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No way we already got Parker caboose and Parker tree house numbers

  • @mathphysicsnerd
    @mathphysicsnerd 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Matt: *points at expression*
    "These are just, growing exponentially..."
    WHAT?
    A THING WITH e IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY!?

    • @Im_Rainrot
      @Im_Rainrot 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A NUMBER WITH AN EXPONENT GROWING IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY???

  • @Demo-critus
    @Demo-critus 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I was about to comment: "Bravo!", until the reveal 🙂 Surely, a number theorist's journey should start at (or involve early on) the OEIS! 🤣