6 Warning Signs They Will Be Dangerous To Spar (Accidentally Hurt You)
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Definitely the guy who is angry for no reason or gets mad when he gets touched clean, 'fueled by ego' types
That he was the Sensei of the class and I was just a white belt..
When they put someone really advanced with a brand new beginning
@@camiloiribarren1450 My Sensei placed us by size and strength, and cause I was the biggest I got him cause he was also worried about me possibly hurting the smaller students.. I was 6'2 at 15 so I got lucky.. I got the full torture.. So while it's a disadvantage then, it's an advantage down the road because your getting hands on training from the best teachers in the class.
@@camiloiribarren1450 My Sensei was a student of Grand Master Shoshin Nagamine and taught Traditional Matsubayashi Ryu and he never abused me, never held holds to punish or show his superiority but training with him was harder as opposed to a white belt who was weak in the Style.. Even going easy on me he was strong and it forced me to work it to learn and he grew up right where I grew up .. The Sensei's would regularly go to Japan and train in a retreat yearly as the years up to Master's death approached. Every time he came back from Japan class was 2x harder and more punishing with the pace he'd set.
He said, "this isn't the karate Kid, it isn't sport Karate, you don't sweep the leg, you break it when your being attacked and don't think twice.."
We trained on the makiwara's like they do in Japan and we trained Kobudo and full contact sparring which you do right from white belt as we practice the blocks, full contact, no gear.
The "take it ez on me" guy is always a straight killer
I used to spar with everybody, even with our heavy weights. I am a 150lbs woman, fighting at 143lbs.
Now I am picky with my sparring partners, if my go-to team mates are already partnered up I choose the heavy bag over someone who I know would not benefit me or could even hurt me. Especially at sparring meetups.
I can take some hard shots and kicks to the body, but if you are a heavy hitter to the head I am 100% stopping the round. I don't care what somebody else will think about me. I won't be fighting on a professional level, I will need my brain for the next 40 years to pay my bills🧠😂
I just turned 44 and I started sparring kickboxing back in the 90s at age 15, almost 30 years ago now. When I think about how bad my coach was, throwing me in there as a kid with bigger, older guys, who were throwing at least 90 to 100% of their power, it really makes me angry. My first coach was one of those guys that thought his students getting their ass kicked made them tougher, so he would basically applaud guys who were like 40 pounds heavier and more experienced for trying to knock me out in sparing. I'm probably still dealing with the effect of some of those shots 30 years later, and now of course, I know the way he trained was completely wrong
Believe it or not that type of sparring philosophy still gets pushed til this day. So irresponsible.
it is fine for tough guys, silly though, however it is weaker ones that need to develop confidence and technique first. some people are too impatient to teach techniques as the coaches find it boring. I had coach that would demon state 20 minutes showing technique explaining every single details and why, some can only show but not explain.
Whay are the effects youre dealing with as of now
Nah he's right
@@death8114 who is
That second one has to be the most annoying. The guy who wants to use you as a punching bag but is scared of getting hit back
There are so many of those types. Its really a mentality problem
Yeah I feel ya, that type is the worst. I have this guy in my beginner mt class, he hits so hard its like he is trying to hurt me.. Coaches has told us to be careful and not hit too hard, but idk if this guy knows what taking it easy is like lol. anyway I'm going easy, and he just keeps trying to take my head off, and I match his intensity for a couple of seconds, and get him with a good 1-1-2 setup and he gets all shocked, and i motion to him like "hey we can go easier, lets tone it down" and i start off slow again, and he just blasts me lol, coach tells him whow take it ez.. I'm gonna start avoiding sparring with him before i get injured
@sonnystormg3692 yeah just stop we had one of those guys at my old gym I would still go with him just to work him but he was always 100% gonna break a nose or two in sparring the better guys couldn't humble him much after working him he later on went 0-2 in amatuer boxing still thought he was fucking Mayweather
I am often the biggest person in class at 6'3" and 220+. I can often only spar with people much smaller, so I've gotten pretty good and being gentle 👍
That’s good man!
Tbh it’s always hella intimidating sparring 6ft or above people since I’m 5’6 and was even smaller years ago at 120 lol.
But I’m glad they took it easy on me 😂
6'4" and about 213lbs here so same situation. Being gentle actually takes a lot of practice.
I think having had to learn to pull my techniques and being mindful of being relaxed (so as to not follow through hard) has actually helped me get technically better because I have to throw with good form to be able to control the power behind the strikes and being relaxed in general helps save energy.
Honestly, the most fun sparring I've had in class has been with the big guys. So far they have all been extra careful and kept things light and playful. It's the guys my size at around 175 or smaller guys who are out here like they've got something to prove.
Mike Tyson is 5'9 and would paralyze you.
Stay humble
My MMA gym heavily emphasizes light sparring and doesn't let new/inexperienced guys spar without some instruction or supervision.
Anyone who starts throwing hard or crazy techniques with no control will get a warning, if they keep going, the coach stops it, and you gotta do burpees.
Same here, it’s a great gym too, has national and world champions training there.
Coach lets you get a bit creative when u start getting better tho, you just feel it when you can do it
The guys who feel like they always have to “get it back” after being touched are usually dangerous. Means they can’t let the previous exchange go and usually have to ramp it up in either speed or power or both to find their opening. Conversely, if you touch someone and they say “good job” or “nice technique” chances are they are safe because they didn’t bring their ego with them.
Here is another one for the list: bad attitude/manners. If someone is an a**hole chances are he is a dangerous sparring partner as well.
Not checking in to calibrate intensity is also a big one. Consent is continuous.
'Let's go light'....the biggest lie in Western Combat Gyms 💯
They always become a war of attrition 😂
😂
Always smart to know when to bail out of a dangerous spar, ego never worth injury plus everyone there who really knows, it wont carry a stigma with it
The only thing that I don't really have a choice about is sparing/moving with bigger people. As the only female in my gym(s), everyone is almost always bigger than me. I am however very picky about the guys that I do move with. There are about two heavyweights that I am able to move with, but it is only because I know that they have amazing control. Everything else that you pointed out is on point.
Yeah, similar situation for me that everyone's bigger than me at my gym, so sometimes either I spar with people who've got 40+ lbs on me or I don't get to spar.
Same. And I hate those people who take too much advantage of being the way taller/heavier fighter and keeping me on the outside for the whole round with their long guard and answering my attemps to get to the inside with too heavy shots to the head. Or jabbing me when I do lowkicks because their arms are that long. Too frustrating for me.
I can tell you it's just as frustrating for the other side, being 200lbs/6'3" with long range myself. I'm either
- slow with proper technique, getting harassed by people going full speed,
- fast with sloppy technique so I don't accidentally knock them out or hurt them
- full speed and proper technique is not an option, I've ended enough sparring rounds even with like 40% power 🙄
@@duffpaddy3996 I mean, I don't find it frustrating or problematic to spar with size mismatches because I have no interest in competing for sport and want my skills to be useful in actually defending myself. As long as I don't feel like I'm in immediate danger of getting hurt, I'm willing to focus on being solid defensively and keeping calm enough to think and react while being knocked around. Well, ok, there are times where it's frustrating in the moment, but that's no different from sparring with someone who's so much better that it feels like I'm being completely shut down 😅
1st one I hate the most. That one and guys with chip on their shoulder. They come at you like it's actual fight and they have to prove something. I either stop sparing after telling them to go light once and they continue to go hard or I blast them with couple of close to 100% leg/calf kicks and that usually calms them down... depending on my mood.
...or the ones that just ended their relationships😂
@@David-ie7zn hahahah yes :D
This is the worst. When they give off the vibe that they will refuse to "lose" to you so they will always increase intensity if you are winning at an equal pace. You either have to let them win or end up in a brawl. You can usually spot them ahead of time because they won't make eye contact or have friendly acknowledgement of you as a fellow human before the spar OR they have too much personality on display. In both cases they are clearly see sparring as a reflection of they ego, either they need to "win" to feel good or they need to put on a performance for an imaginary audience.
A good teep has saved me from meatheads so many times. If they go too hard or throw moves that you shouldn't throw, my strong teep to the chest puts them on the ass. Sometimes a hard but necessary lesson they need to be taught
I think you mentioned a very important point about the control on spinning techniques. It's not only about being able to throw a very soft spinning hook kick, it's about being able to adapt and react in unexpected scenarios where your opponent move and the moment of impact ends up being a lot earlier than expected.
I would say that sparring with people from other styles, LIGHTLY at first, helps finding the holes in our personal techniques to find out what needs to be worked on. Speaking as a Goju Ryu karateka who’s practiced with BJJ and kickboxers at times.
It’s also the most fun imo: if you’re used to a certain style you’re used to a certain type of puzzle, but when you spar with someone with another style it feels like a completely different challenge and it usually really gets you thinking in unconventional ways
@@juanmejiagomez5514 exactly. That’s what mean.
What about the guys who act like sparring is an actual fight and would go out there and try to take your head off
Yep, these will give you concussions, broken ribs and whatnot.
One of my team mates in our camp
Is about 125 pounds, I outweigh her by about 120 pounds. We spar daily, and it's always a great time.. for both of us..
We have worked together for about 6 months and she is a
great sparring partner, given our height/weight differences.
It is incredibly important to stay loose, and relax.
🙏
First of all, thank you for the video's and your content.
The people I watch out for, are the ones who walk around with pumped up chests and arms out wide. Being all Alpha. Mostly always throwing bombs on the heavybag beforehand. They are just there to assert dominance and streetcredibility. If those bombs on the heavybag even come with a bad form, it's an extra indication.
Greetings from the Netherlands!
My coach is probably 220lbs and he spars with us sometimes and he’s going about 50% but for me (165lbs) it feels like if I drop my hands for a second and get caught I’m gonna taking a nap. Great coach with instruction, but sparring with him you know is gonna be a tough round
Maybe not the best coach if he's cracking his weaker, smaller, less experienced students
You shouldn't be getting knocked out in sparring regardless of how big/strong your partner is.
@@ZolPsyko what if its hard sparring like a week before a competition? (i didnt knock out, but knocked down my sparring partner and kinda felt bad)
@@typekkleks4013 That sounds like the worst time possible. What if they got hurt and are now going into their fight with an additional injury? What if they have to go in there while recovering from a concussion?
@@SenraethX he stood up like a second after, i didnt go 100% and he's ok However i get where you are coming from, also i only trained for like 5-6 months, he was 2-3 months more experienced than me. The "competition" is without verdict, so more of a sparring between few of the gyms in the area
100 procent true. I have a karate guy in my gym and I spared with him once and after that never again
Solid tips. I feel that not enough people train with longevity and safety in mind.
It pisses me off when guys go hard but mess up a dangerous technique and miss then laugh it off, lowers their guard and walks away from you until they’re ready
Had a good sparring session today the guy was far more experienced so he knew how to pull his punches I’m barely getting back into sparring
I am a very small woman, my instructor thinks I should always be sparring with men, so this makes me question that.
You can spar with men. However don’t be afraid to communicate with them especially if you feel uncomfortable or unsafe. Like if someone is hitting hard, ask them to go lighter. And there’s no shame or problem with stopping a sparring session if someone refuses to listen and is a danger to you.
Sparring with men with control but still touch you up, will keep you honest and make you a better fighter. There's a chick at my gym who only spars other women and hasn't progressed in a year
@@strangeone7198 To be fair, I've seen similar results with some dudes who spar with everyone and have barely made any progress at all in years.
Oh my! I'm guilty of a lot of these! Self taught and cross trained focusing on stamina and self defense and I'll spar anyone at any size as long as they are nice. And I've NEVER hurt anyone. All my rounds are fun rounds so, yeah, maybe I don't present much of a challenge to a lot of ppl but that's exactly why I'm so super thankful to anyone who'll agree to spar lightly with me to help me get technique, calmness and stamina under pressure!
A guy in my class fought a guy at a tournament who did nothing, but spin kicks and he not only knocked out my friend, but sprained his leg
Love your channel Gabe! When will we see a collab with Jeff Chan? Would love to see you guys spar!
This videos are fire Gabriel🔥🔥🔥
🙏🙏
How about the guy that's talking to himself in the locker room before sparring haha
Hehe
If they're talking to themselves in general perhaps keep your distance.
Oh hell no hahaha
In a real match, it comes in handy
But in sparring, there's zero benefits 💀
@@GabrielVargaOfficial😂 good one coach
@@GabrielVargaOfficial solid advice
I do always pray with little voice but sometimes people can see me from far away and they think i am crazy
I love sparring with people that can push me to my absolute limit without injuring me.
That being said, that first one is so f*cling true. People who have karate, TKD or Kung Fu backgrounds tend to be super annoying and dangerous to spar, because as soon as their Muay Thai becomes ineffective against someone with more experience in the sport, they will switch martial arts style mid round like they are a videogame character, just to get anything to hit their sparring partner, regardless of whether the technique is legal or not in the sport.
I love this series!
Great list the speeding up thing is so true
Last night sparring a guy I was going very light. Then dude starts throwing hard af. So I threw a hard body shot he needed a break. and he acted like I was the asshole. I'm like bro you started it. Guess I should've just said hey slow it down rather than letting it escalate.
Nah you did good. I think it's ok to counter with hard body shots if someone is going hard to the head all of a sudden. That's not escalating, in my mind, that's more like telling the guy "don't do that, it's not going to end well" - like a fair warning.
The first one , you gotta be ready for any opponent , imagine its a street fight
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“Imma just put you down because it’s getting ridiculous 😂
Itd be a bucket lister to learn from you I never really got to spar with someone not trying to take my head off I wanna learn the intricacies not just how to defend myself theres so much expression in martial arts I feel I need and also other like minded people are easier to relate to
sounds like you need a new gym if you keep having that problem
One of those "let's go light" guys broke my nose a month ago. It was meant to be a warm up and after about a minute of sparring he thrown a powerful cross with all his weight and I just wasn't prepared to that sh*t. The same dude broke someone's ribs a few months ago in sparring
I missed: the guy with no cardio who will compensates his lack of cardio with haymakers
we had one "spinning back kick guy" and one "rigid guy". The rigid guy was the one who always raised the tempo and hardiness to almost 100%, because he wasn`t fast enough otherwise, and the lack of technique meant that he probably felt unsuccessful at light sparring .
One day he ended up raising tempo again, and the other guy accidently broke his ribs with a spinning back kick.
Now, normally the guy who loved doing spinning kicks would just hit you with average power, and it was completely ok, as the tempo was decent. I sparred with him many times and the worst what I got - moderately unpleasant body kicks to keep you on your guard.
But the rigid guy was so aggressive in inflating power every time he sparred, that he just got himself into facing a lot less controlled kick, probably even ran right into it without proper defense.
So yeah, if you are rigid guy - you might be the one who is hurt more at the end of the day.
Just don`t treat it as a competition against someone who is much faster, just use it as a practice, relax and don`t get into "full power" scenarios.
Lol today this dude told me light, in a drill for just setting up body kicks, and opened up with a hard head kick
One more sigh : They keep focusing knees on the ribs. You only need one and you are out for 2 months until your ribs heal. It’s not like being punched with the padded gloves. It’s so much different when it’s bone to bone
Great guy
I'd say size discrepancy is the most important factor. When sparring guys 10kg+ lighter than me, I know they can't hurt me unless they're elite. Bigger guys, however, almost always rock me.
Gabriel just a video suggestion. Leg kick counter? How to deal with someone who goes for your legs constantly? Especially if you’re taller
Thank you
class i been going late to have lot big dudes and they want us to spar with different people ever round. with higher belts its never been a problem but newer people are terrible. and to make things worse I been getting paired up with them in later rounds. I am going to use you advice to avoid this
The worst is sparring heavier people who go hard outta nowhere and you find out they use 12oz gloves after.
I've been the really stiff guy before and got wreck less with a body jab to the solar plexus of my sparring partner. He just pinned me with body hooks the rest of the round. Now I know . I still have low mobility unfortunately, Im working on it
Best sparring partners are pot smokers.
You forgot one, guys who are scared to spar. If they think you’re gonna go light they wouldn’t be scared, but if they act scared even after you tell them you’re gonna go light it means that they think you’re lying and their in danger. These guys will go as hard as they possibly can to try and protect themselves even after getting hit with light strikes. Had a bigger guy like this hit me with a full power hook to the back of the head when I was new to boxing and I felt pretty off for a while after. Not worth it at all.
Had an i*iot break my rib clean a year ago during technical sparring with a spinning back heel kick.
Took me out of the training for almost 3 months.
He was this type that has no control over their level of aggression and fights during sparring like their life depends on it.
A big tell for me is when they are over concerned with how they look in front of others…you land a solid shot on them and you see their eyes going all over the place hoping nobody noticed.
> "Let's go light".
> The sparring is NEVER light.
I feel the signs and concepts you share are invaluable. For anyone involved in combat sports or martial arts in general. You are sharing your hard-earned wisdom graciously 🔥🙏
That second one😂😤
That last one. This guy at the training center always always encouraged partners to spar harder, despite being a good 220 lbs and bigger than 95% of everyone else. I weighed about 145 at the time. Dude cracked my rib.
Number 2 makes me feel like they're not neccesarily there to improve and/or to help their partner improve, but to feel like they won at sparring. Like they want the opponent to be set on easy mode or something, but they're set on hard. Feels immature or insecure to me kind of
is it wise to hold pads for someone who is 50 pounds heavier than me?
I always liked to fight bigger guys. Whenever I spared smaller guys and women , I liked working on movement and body work.
One time a kid threw a spinning wheel kick at me, didn’t even try pulling it, and luckily I blocked it with my glove. Otherwise it would have been a wrap. And the kid I always tell him to take it easy but he never understands. Same kid also threw an oblique kick at me, almost blew out my knee but luckily I dropped it back. Kid is dangerous and doesn’t understand what he can and can’t throw when sparring. No concept of control
I spar a guy that does allot of muaythai style while we kickboxing and he injures me unintentionally with stuff like sweeps and kind off judo moves that has nothing to do with kickboxing and also holding the leg and keep punching hard witch keep holding the leg and punching is not allowed so I am now thinking of not sparring with him anymore or have a talk with him not to do those things is we spar because everytime I get injured with him
Yeah the ‘lets go light’ guys at the gym theres always that ONE guy who has something to prove. Trying to ‘win’ at sparring and having to one up every shot. Its super annoying and have avoided sparring to avoid one person in my class. Too many responsibilities to get a serious
Injury in sparring by ppl w little man syndrome😂
I'm 267 so I'm always the bigger guy in the gym so what I do is just play all the time, and never throw head kicks and really just telegraph my strikes I don't know if this helps my appointments but that is my go to move
Yeah, head kicks are generally a no-go, at least without perfect control. Big guys like us have no business throwing our huge hams into the face of someone smaller than us. =)
Telegraphing might give you some bad habits in the long run though?
It'd suck getting used to telegraphing and your subconscious flipping that switch on in an actual fight or self defense situation.
It was me going against capoiera guy he was a good friend n he pulled all his strikes kick n would be blows ... he would have murdered me lol also he's 2nd after ido portal in republic of movement who trained Connor McGregor.. it taught me to not be so stiff n robotic in " battle" our muay Thai must be more fluid adaptive . Again great sparring partner he didn't hurt or touch me alot n when he did it was a light tap / a barely gentle nudge .
Self trained and like spinning techniques 😅
too late.. permanent brain damage.. cant even shadow box anymore.. be careful gentlmen.. good luck
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How did that happen?
Oh i am sorry for that, what happened?😮
Hey Gabriel. So I have been to sparring classes a couple of times now. There is different levels some are good, some are not. I don’t have any trouble sparring people that are on my level or below. But when I spar with guys that are better then me I can’t land my strikes on them. It’s like they know what am about to do. Can you make a video on this topic and give some tips.
use this as opportunity to challenge yourself, but not as a "competition" (because then you risk of becoming dangerous to other ppl, as you gonna ramp up speed and power), but as a way to test your defensive game, to test your movement, your reflexes etc. You are not supposed to outperform those who are more experienced, they are just providing you with more challenges, compared to other novice fighters.
Beginners with a lot of nervous energy - avoid them, they usually have no control over there power and most of the time they don’t realise they go way to hard
There are certain moments where I get so into it I forget how hard I’m throwing and there have been a couple time where I through a kick to the body and dropped him… I instantly felt bad and my coach got bad at me and scolded me.. tbh I teared up Becuase it felt like I did something terribly wrong and it wasn’t my intentions to hurt my partners. Anyone have tips for improving my MMA when it comes to sparring that allows me to stay calm and to focus on technique ?
I have to point out something as a big guy. I have 100 kg. And I am usually the "big guy", but I am also really technical. So when I do the rounds and I am really in control and touch the head, many people being my size or smaller, when they realize I am technically good and can outsmart them, they become really mean and do the cheap shots. They like apologize after, but don't really realize what would happen if I did the same. And I think if someone outsmarted you take it like a man and like a martial artist and be nice 🙂
Just to give an example. If someone kicks you in the head really light and holds the kick, don't be an ass and pretend to catch it and counter it aggressively, he could knock you out if he didn't hold it, so instead acknowledge that he got you and be polite 😊
Great point, our coaches make a point of that too, they say to be aware or the weight/skill difference if you are bigger/better but also if you are the smaller/less skilled to not take advantage of the person dialing it back.
There are some lads I spar and I can tell they pulled certain techniques (like a wheel or axe kick), and I always thank them for pulling it so they know that I know they could have caught me if they wanted.
OMG!! The size issue is something that bigger guys just do NOT ever seem to comprehend. There aren't too many 180-200 pound guys who have had to deal with someone 30%-50% bigger than they are. With that much of a differential, the bigger person doesn't have to hit hard. It isn't just about the force they generate, but the amount of force my body can absorb.
Haven't even finished the video and I can tell you a big red flag, when the call sparring "fighting", or when they talk about "winning" or "losing" sparring rounds as if its a fight.
Hey Gabriel. I have a question. Or I guess you can say a scenario that I’d like your opinion on. I go to a pretty small gym where everyone is pretty personable and we take care of each other. But we have one guy who is a pro that comes to our gym. Countless times I see him tee off on all of the smaller guy that I enjoy sparring with. Me being 6’7 210 and him standing 6’3 around 185 he’s really the only person that I can spar with to get ready for opponents my size. I usually never have an issue when we start trading shots and I have a pretty reliable defense, enough to stay comfortable in these situations. But right off the bat he always throws body shots at almost 100%. Even to the head. So I work my defense and exchange some lengthy punches to move him back. He’s very much a pressure fighter and just walks forward no matter what. Usually after I establish my presence the round starts to get better and he’s not sparring as hard. Then out of no where WHAM he throws a leg kick full force to the top of my knee. I felt it instantly swell up. At this point I was frustrated. I usually pull a lot of my punches and kick’s because I have a distance advantage and I still want us all to get in good training I don’t want to hurt anybody. But right away I started working my combos and actually landing head kicks ( which I don’t like to do in light sparring). I held him off and avoided any other strikes till the end of the round but now my knee has been swollen for a week and I’m supposed to travel to another gym to get some training in with new people. But I hope my leg is good by then. I am a week into training camp, getting ready for my first amateur mma fight. Would you say it’s safe to just not spar with him? Of communicate that we need to tone the intensity down. He’s kind of hard headed and looking for the next person to beat up I guess because he’s lost his last few fights. Now I’ve been a student of the fight game for a while and have been trained in boxing, kick boxing, and jiu jitsu. And I usually fair pretty well against everyone, even the guys with multiple fights. Not bragging by any means just trying to explain better. I don’t necessarily feel like I’m thrown to the wolves since he can’t beat on me as much as my smaller training partners. But I’m this instance I feel like I could possibly be injured before my debut, or get into a heated sparring session which I don’t feel the need to do. I just know I don’t have to prove myself to anybody at camp and I rather walk into weigh ins knowing I protected my body the best I can while getting in the proper amount of training. What would you do if you were in my position?? Hopefully you see this soon or before my debut. Thank you for all your help! LOVE your channel I listen to it all day at work and even while eating dinner.
There's a guy at my dojo who turns everything into an MMA type fight. I'm in there for self-defence and fun. I never spar him, ever. I'm no Einstein, but I ain't *that* dumb lmao.
Hi gab, can you do what makes Manny Pacquiao so good? It's just fascinating to see pacman broke alot of "boxing rules" but makes them work, thank you:))
In my lunch class most guys are in their 30s and up. I'm 38, and typically I have to spar guys 10-50kg heavier. The biggest dudes are sometimes the biggest moments I may get schooled but it has helped me improve a lot..
When I then spar those my size it feels like a breeze!
Some weeks ago trained in most terrible gym i have ever seen...and i have trained since 1994.
The coach was bad, the lesson was a mess, lack of discipline or planned course. And when sparring started it was wild. The coach didn't even look or restrain violent ppl. It was kickboxing course and some people trained with MMA gloves and tried to koed me. Unforunartly for them i m experienced so i kicked them hard. They even dare to complain and insult me... At the end of this fuc... evening i had a headache because i was so upset and angry. I have never put my feet in this sh*thole again. And the worst thing is that this gym seemed good and the trainer has titles.... What a disappointment. It makes me angry even some days after. (I m french so i hope you will understand my english) 11:08
Some people has titles due to being good fighters but are terrible as coach.
#2 is just rude; these people should not be allowed in the gym. I could be wrong but I read it as an ego thing; they want to hit really hard but are afraid of getting hit. So they ask to go slow and once you're in a rhythm they try to take your head off. Then when you take it to their level they ask to go slow again. Rude. In my opinion, the best way to deal with them once you've identified them is to keep it light, and then when the round is nearly over light them up like a christmas tree. Then take them aside and have a talk with them about etiquette.
We have a shintaikan karateka who sometimes come to the kickboxing gym. Super stiff, throwing forbidden spinning fists and as soon as you touch him a bit he gets scared. On Tuesday we were doing light sparrings and my friend just landed a light middle kick at the liver. I swear the karate shintaistuff guy was on the floor screaming like I thought he broke his knee or something 😂😂😂
I am going to have my first kickboxing 'competition' this Sunday.
However the person organising it didnt want to spend money on a proper judge
so the fight will be without verdict. Sooo its more like a multi gym sparring thingy,
anyway, i train for around 5-6 months (im 17) and yesterday we had like a hard 80-90% sparring
in order to prepare and i was able to send my sparring partner on the ground.
(he stood up after like 2 seconds) I felt bad at first, and i really dont know if i went too hard,
(whenever someone goes too hard our coach tells to go lighter, but you know, it was supposed
to be hard sparring) despite my sparring partner training 2 months longer than me.
Did i maybe go too hard? My coach just said i did really well, despite me being kinda sorry
for that guy (he is like 1 year younger)
oh also fun fact, i think my low kick (whcih was rather hard) didnt land properly and now it hurts when
i move, hopefully its gonna be all healed up by sunday :P
Ty if you actually were bothered to read this, just wanted to let you know my thoughts and make sure
i didnt do anything wrong :p
If it was supposed to be hard sparring and you weren't trying to injure them it's fine. It shows good character that you care though. 🥊
@@Ottepeg89
Haha wish I would’ve seen this sooner now my rib is moved forever 😂😂🙏
This has made me feel a lot better about avoiding rounds with the Behemouth with 60 pounds on me 💀
I marked all the red flags for myself lol
1) they do a different style of marial arts
2) they say "let's go light" but they are not doing it
3) they throw too many spinning techniques
4) "self-taught"
5) stiff, rigid, not fluid
6) too big
I have this guy at my kickboxing gym who is the worst guy to spar with. He's really stiff, punches way too hard, has a tendency to get mad really quickly (making him just throw even harder punches) and just overall looks like he's training mma instead of kickboxing. He has this very hunched over, forward-leaning stance with a really long and loose guard (not really protecting anything, but looking like he's gonna shoot for a takedown any second). He also likes to throw fancy kicks that end up really had because he can't even do the basics correctly. In addition to doing all of this, he does all this sparring in 10oz gloves. I'm a 77kg (169lbs) guy, and even i spar with 16oz gloves to avoid hurting my sparring partners.
Suggest swapping gloves for a few rounds so he realises the difference between the 10oz and 16oz 😂. Seriously though, some people don't realise that thier gloves are inadequate till u show them.
Well isn't it one of the tasks of the coach to pick up on this and make appropriate adjustments with this dude?
@@siegfriedo the coaches have talked to him, but he just seems to fall back into his old habits every time
It seems like you are uncomfortable sparring with people who do not stay in some pretty tight and thin lines
😂🤙🏾 I get it though you’re looking to keep yourself safe as you progress through your career. Also probably a good ideology for most people to follow, though I am glad you still encouraged people to do what they feel safe doing. I think that if you have good partners and good agreements your partner can be doing any of those things while still being safe and I also think that when preparing for a fight especially, you would sometimes want a partner who is doing some of those things to simulate an up coming opponents style. But that is obviously a very specific circumstantial reason to do sparring of that kind. I also will say that in my experience sparring against partners of various sizes, style preferences as well as varying degrees of training is one of if not the best form of preparation for any form of combat. Safety first of course. But I will also say that it has a bit less of a direct effect on combat sports though I definitely believe that it does improve both fighters for a heavy guy, lets say 2 weight classes above another guy to spar with each other in a playful manner with some well established understanding of one another and the obvious discrepancy. One is getting more skilled at fighting a smaller faster squirrelly opponent and the other is getting more skilled at taking on a guy with a size advantage reach, weight, height etc. That is just the base of what they get , but honestly the potential for overall body awareness of both yourself and your opponents body should increase because your experiential dataset has grown. Anyway just some thoughts I had as I watched. 😌🤙🏾
Guys who are not total beginners but are still not very good often do this, they tense up and go all out or nothing and throw spinning back fists with no control.
I hate it so much. And a lot of time it takes me a lot of self control to not become mean.
I often work my defense and counters and wait for them to gas out, because generally they don't keep up anyway.
1. What if the coach makes you spar with them even though you don't want to?
2. A lot of time I spar with girls who are skilled for sure, but they do hit a bit harder. And I don't know how to gauge how hard I should go relative to guys their size. So far it seems like they can take it, but sometimes I'm afraid that's not what they might think.
Regarding 2: Just ask them after some shots if the intensity is okay for them. Just ask them after some shots if the intensity is okay for them, she will most likely say "yes keep going" or she will ask you to tone it down a bit. Most women can't really evaluate how hard they are really hitting since we are mostly used to train with way heavier men and I never met a man who would admit that the woman goes a little bit to hard 😂 And be more careful with shots to the head than with somebody your size.
I am a woman too and I appreciate when my team mates weighing 20-30 lbs more than me don't hold back too much with kicks and body shots. For me that's great conditioning, no woman will hit me harder than them in a fight.
I’ve been training Muay Thai for about 18 months and all of my injuries have come from sparring people I knew were going to go too hard.
I’m very picky with who I’ll spar with above light flow sparring, and i’m very quick to tell my partner to tone it down. One of my coaches actually mocked me about it recently. And just a couple days ago I sparred a guy probably 20 pounds heavier than me, tense and clearly throwing with bad intentions. For whatever reason, I decided against my better judgement to continue sparring the guy and now I have either a bruised or cracked rib.
Take my idiocy as an example and realize it’s never a good idea to spar someone you know might hurt you, at an early level, regardless of the internal and external pressures.
You left out “his gf broke up with him”
Probably one other , a person with the big ego ..Few years back now in a sparring session , i had my leg hammered by leg kicks by a pro fighter [mma, mauy thai , boxer] . In the end he realized i wasnt going to give him the satisfaction of quitting so he had to stop our spar .He had a huge ego and got off on hurting the less experience
Why I punch trees
I once sparred with a guy that was 238 pounss meanwhile I'm 170 (really fuckin stupid ik) and to make things worse he started throwing haymakers and at one point clipped me with a hook behind the ear that made me see static for like 0.2 seconds. Oddly enough my legs and everything else was fine after that extremely brief moment. I ended up getting him with two hard liver shots shortly after that made him stop. Ever since this situation I have never sparred with anyone that has more than 20 pounds on me.
The idea is, someone who's skill level is WAY beyond yours but who is going to take it really easy on you, but still push you. I recall a guy that always threw spinning back kicks and was bigger, stronger and didn't have great control. No thanks. The ex-pro boxer who'd make me work like a dog but not injure me? Yes thanks. My experience is the higher the skill level the greater the control and the less the ego. Newbies that are big and monster strong, watch out.
It's always the Kung Fu guys throwing the dangerous techniques that should be saved for a real fight (oblique kicks, calf kicks, etc)
They literally want to spar with you naked. Not making a sexual innuendo but I dunno about them.
Dudes throwing spear knees and elbows in sparring… fts
I think knees to the body are find and elbows with guards on in light technical sparring are okay but it requires both guys to be very controlled and focused so it doesn’t escalate
@@Ta-bd7tx right no doubt, its just some people dont understand the difference between side knee slap and a direct knee spear into the ribs, that doesn’t take much to break. Happened before lol
@@dchex23 true tbf
Stopped at number one. Completely disrespectful of other styles and what are you going to do if you are matched with someone in another style in a match or on the street?
This video is for people looking to improve at kickboxing. Sparring reckless kungfu people will not do help you much less than actually working with a good kickboxer.
pretty much grown men with Daddy issues