I love this video and as a former anorexic I can confirm the double standards. I was insulted on the streets, people spit on me and random people at the supermarket felt obligated to tell me, what foods I can and can't eat while noone cared about the severely obese people next to me buying a a grocery cart full of calorie-dense, highly processed foods. But I also want to add something bout terminology: for me it was very important to not see food as good or bad anymore but as nutritious or highly processed. For me a diet which included sweets and highly processed snacks like chips, ice cream, chocolate, etc was very important to overcome my fear of certain foods and actually including them helped me become "healthier" again. So I kinda understand where this aversion against terms like "healthy" come from, because they used to be highly associated with a very restricitve diet culture. But its undeniable that some food are better for your health than others, some are even detremental and in the end, a "hwalthy" diet looks different for everyone depending on their lifestyle. Promoting obesity certainly isnt healthy for anyone and the people that do encourage others to gain more weight are just completely out of touch with reality! Body positivity to me means, accepting where you are now and the parts of you, you can't change, but it also means, making a decision to life a better and healthier life out of self love and self respect!
Oh girl, I’m so sorry. If it does make you feel better, I had a battle to fight against a mass in my throat and I had to stay in hospital and then with a tracheostomy for a long time, i inevitably lost weight and people still had the “bravery” to tell me “eat more please!”
I mean that is what body positivity is all about, not hating random people you don’t know. You were struggling with anorexia, those people buying unhealthy food could have been struggling with food addictions or binge eating disorder. Nobody deserves to be judged unless you actually know what they’re going through. Everyone deserves to be healthy and we all need support to get there. Telling a person don’t be anorexic, don’t be obese, don’t have an eating disorder, doesn’t give them the tools necessary to even want to change. I’m very happy you’re in a better place!!
Apparently enjoying nutritious foods, not wanting to eat crap, and caring about your fitness and health means you have an eating disorder to a lot of these people.
I’m in the morbidly obese category. I also have a neurological spinal cord disorder that causes weak leg muscles so limits mobility. However, I went vegan this month, simply to cut out a bunch of crap that was causing digestive issues (meat was making me sick). I’m hoping that major shift in dietary habits helps with my weight. All that being said, I’ve always been uncomfortable with this current version of the body positivity movement. Why anyone would want to be a weight that makes short walks difficult, I will never understand. I will say the few weeks that I’ve cut all animal products from my diet, I have never felt better. Thank you Miles for saying what you said.
@@robynskeletons6881 thank you. It’s amazing how much better I feel eliminating all animal products. I just had to have my annual blood work done (my doc is a bit of a sadist and knows how much needles freak me out). I’ll be curious if things look different/better.
What an amazing journey you've started. Congratulations! I've just started cutting animal products too and really feel the difference. My next big one is all processed foods with sugar which is a tough one. I thinks Miles' meals are a great blueprint for health and find myself making similar for lunch and dinner now. Good luck to you. I think it's amazing!!
this is so true! I lost 20 lbs. about 3 years ago. I wasn't "obese", but I was "chubby" and what some would call skinny-fat. I started running and changing my diet. I went from BMI 23 to 19- so still in a "normal healthy" range. People were accusing me of having an eating disorder. 🙄Yeah, sure! Because when you lose weight, it can only be because something is wrong...but gaining weight is seen as "normal" especially in my age group amongst women. I think it's just jealousy. They feel triggert seeing others succeed where they failed. If they could snip a finger and be skinny without doing any work, they would do it.
One thing that has always puzzled me is how often these FA's are all about anti-capitalism yet are the purchasers of obscene amounts of junk from the largest corporations in the world.
I am severely hypothyroid. I have Hashimoto. I only have half of my thyroid left. I‘m also heavily muscled and very, very active (15k to 20k steps a day). I‘m barely overweight (67kg to 1,63m). These diseases are not an excuse, they are a hindrance. I spent years looking for the right doctor and medication, but I took matters in my own hands and lost weight. Now I feel so healthy like I never did before.
In all fairness, some people use "preference" to be an asshole. Five years ago, my boyfriend had a "preference" for skinny people and because of that "preference" he commented on everything I ate that wasn't healthy or seemed like an excessive amount (even if it was just a big salad). Even though I was studying nutrition at the time, ate very healthy, exercised every day for 30-60 minutes, slept well and just had a really healty lifestyle in general. He did that until one day I screamed at him that he was a personified eating disorder and if he didn't immediatly stop, I would break up with him. I also made sure to list him the death rates of eating disorders and also death rates of underweight people dying due to unrelated health issues. Also a study about my specific chronic disease where they actually found out that weighing a bit more (like BMI 23-24) actually DECREASED mortality. He has since been to therapy. Ironically, his eating habits are complete shit.
I am overweight because of PCOS and iron deficiency due to celiac disease. I cannot sleep or function because of both and am a zombie day after day. I eat super healthy 90% of the time. Semi healthy the rest. But I would never consider myself healthy because I am overweight, it just is not possible. The mind set of big and healthy is absolutely ridiculous! The added weight even if someone ate perfectly healthy 100% of the time, is still going to be hard on your body and your organs.
darling I hope you recover to full health, it is possible. PCOS and iron deficiency isn't a life sentence, just got to have patience and see the right people to help you. I have serious hormonal issues and anemia and in recovery myself. Doctors haven't helped but have gone to functional doctors and slowly my body is regulating and coming back on line.
@@ne5464 Honestly I've given up with trying to get help from Drs. Over the years all I've heard was I don't know. And there's nothing that can be done about it. I'm in my 40s and was diagnosed with pcos when I was 22. Over half of my life with no help for it. I cannot take iron supplements because it causes so much pain and ruins my digestive system for weeks. I have to wait until my hemaglobin gets to 100 or lower before I can het infusions. The only way I can take iron. Most of the time my hemaglobin sits just above 100. My Ferritin is dangerously low and it still will not be enough for infusions. It all has to do with hemaglobin levels. I feel like I'm at a loss. I do inject B12. My body will not absorb it because of all the damage done from celiac. I feel like I want to cry most days because the ones who are supposed to help us get back to being healthy refuse to. Thank you for your kind words 💖💖 I am glad you're onto recovery 😊
@@HealthyCrazyCool thank you for your video. Many people need to open their eyes to this and understand. More people need to come out and say this. No sugar coating. It won't help anything or anyone. You're kind, Miles 😊
I had to pause this and say THANK YOU for an excellent point you just made! I’m currently on my weight loss journey. I’m 20 lbs down since last year, with another 45 to go! I was under the impression that body positivity meant loving yourself and your body enough to appreciate it, accept it, and do all you can to treat it well. I’m 42 and I began dealing with digestive issues last year that let me know it was time to make some major changes. I have slipped many times, fallen off from my workout regimen, but it’s never “over”. I don’t give up on myself. Because I truly love myself and I know that love is not just an emotion, but an action word. It’s wonderful to love yourself at whatever size! But some of these people need to get real about what that means. You don’t kill someone/something you love. And if you KNOW the foods you eat are damaging your health, there’s no way you can call that body positivity. There’s simply nothing positive about it. 🤷🏽♀️
I've heard obese people saying that the worst people to speak to about this kind of thing are people who have lost weight. Do they not think WHY that could be!?! Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they've experienced life in an obese body and then one in a smaller and healthier one? I've lost 70lbs and I would love nothing more than these fat activists to spend a day in a smaller body and see if they still think it's completely normal to be carrying so much extra weight. Thank you for speaking out about this, obesity is being normalised and it is terrifying.
As a bigger girl, there’s a huge difference between someone who’s a bit overweight yet healthy and someone who’s morbidly obese. Obesity comes with a ton of health problems, there’s no way around it.
@@manifestingsanctuary my sister is slightly underweight based on BMI, about 112 lbs at 5'8", mainly due to hyperthyroidism, for which she takes medication. Other than that condition and a back (disk) issue, she's very healthy. Meaning, no heart, lung, or other systemic problems. She just has an overactive thyroid.
@@BohoBunMom I do believe someone can be underweight and in very good health-no thyroid issues either, i am thin by nature and ive been perfectly physically healthy underweight and not restricting my calories-eating as much as my partner who was near double my weight (i have a fast metabolism and anxiety causes more NEAT)....but I notice in this world overweight figure is starting to be looked at as healthy by certain people and underweight always considered unhealthy by many of the same people so this is why i ask. There's often a double standard in the usa with fat acceptance movement (normalizing overweight body) often comes unacceptance of naturally thin people.
@@manifestingsanctuary I think so -- because body type can dictate someone be on the slight under/overweight side, but still exercise and eat well. Do these people sometimes have metabolic or hormonal issues? Maybe. But, I think they can be healthy.
thank you for being a voice of reason on this topic! more people need to be speaking out against this movement, it’s damaging to people’s health and happiness and it’s hard to watch
PREACH!! Oh my god!! Some people are naturaly more skinny, and some naturaly more curvy, but being 300kilos is not natural for ANYONE! I know so many people , friends too, that are overweight to the point a 10 minute walk tires them and we should not be promoting that .
Or everybody could just stop commenting on everyone else's bodies altogether. I mean, that's how body positivity began, right? Because everyone loves to hate fat people or extremely thin people? Maybe we don't need to make judgements about everyone else's health. Maybe we don't need to call people names or criticize anyone for the shape of their bodies. People who are already struggling with their weight are not encouraged to be healthier by being harassed.
If a fat person is walking down the street, it's not the place of the stranger next to them to start giving them on lecture on healthy eating. However, if that same fat person is making the claim, that health has nothing to do with weight, it's not harassment for someone to say that their claim is nonsense.
As a woman who battled obesity for years and now is still batling excess weight thank you. I can belivie the bullshits that the body positivy says, being morbid obese was a nightmare, the rashes, the sweat, I could barely walk half kilometer without being out of breath, I still have problems running due to the excess weight and I just hope my joints are not damaged beyond repair. I developed sleep apnea and it was running my quality of life. I become vegan for ethical reason, but it literally saved me, I dont like to think were I would be now if I havent found veganism which helped me lose 30kg. And now people are commenting that I am "too skinny" and I should stop losing weight even thought I am still 20kg overeight according to the BMI (29.1). We literally lost touch of what a health weight looks like.
THIS! Thank you for speaking up about this. I've worked in the health and fitness industry for nearly 15 years now (as a personal trainer and coach) and having watched this evolve over the last few years in particular has been so frustrating. 100% overweight and obese people are NOT a minority... they are the majority, and it's a huge health concern and cost for taxpayers.
I have struggled with an eating disorder off and on for so many years. My body dysmorphia is extremely troubling and I feel that my view of my body and food will always be skewed. Long story short, it is extremely crippling and painful. My ED has ruined my life. It’s hell. However, objectively, I am a tall, thin woman. I’ve been told so many times how beautiful I am, that I could be a model, that I am so blessed and lucky to look the way I do. I can’t see it at all. I feel that everyone is lying to me and I believe that with so much conviction. I have these extreme mental fixations on certain parts of my body and it literally feels like I have schizophrenic tendencies sometimes, seeing things and feeling things that are not there. My point is, you never, ever know what someone may be battling and have no right to categorize which people are worthy of being in this body positivity/ eating disorder conversation. You never know someone’s trauma and it’s disgusting to try to assess someone’s level of validity just by observing their appearance or life objectively. This whole obsession society has with this hierarchy of victimhood is very appalling.
In 2010 my ex boyfriend burned my back in a fit of drunk rage before I left him. In 2024 I still and always will have those scars. Being body positive helped me to feel ok wearing cami tanks instead of hiding my scars in self loathing. That's what body positivity should be about. Things you cannot change. Not about how you ate yourself to deformity, ill health, and disability.
Fitness probably saved my life tbh. In treatment for anorexia I hated eating and I was pretty much miserable all the time. But when I started exercising (climbing+ working out at home) and eating healthy (yeah I still eat biscuits and stuff but mainly healthy) I started feeling way better and it made me feel actually okay about my body/recovering. But I guess since I'm not obese and I have muscles that's not positivity lol. Also ypur videos help me a lot lol you kinda got me hooked on peanut butter though 😳
I’m a huge fan of your videos and I love how even though I disagree with some of this (probably because we can all have our own ideas about everything and It feels personal)I still love your message because you do hit on some real key points. It’s hard to hear someone say what you’re saying but it needs to be heard by all of us. Thank you for being real Miles.
I've always been a strong person and carried extra pounds; I'm now morbidly obese and have debilitating back problems that I am praying lessen with weight loss. I've never bought into the Fat is Fab concept. I've dieted my entire life, struggled with damn near every kind of diet I've tried and obviously they all failed me in that I never was able to keep it off. I don't care if people think I'm pretty, I care that I'm able to do what I want and need to do physically.
I followed you until you made the joke about the house needing to be big. And I believe that's EXACTLY what the body positivity movement is about: people who are overweight don't deserve to be made fun of or looked down upon EVEN IF they're not healthy, and don't fit the societal standards. NO ONE deserves to be made fun of or looked down upon. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE trying our best to live within our realities. And as someone who is overweight, that drinks protein shakes and make meals just like yours (because I copy them and I look up to your dedication to health and fitness), I also struggle with mental health issues and trauma like SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE, and my vice happens to be eating unhealthy foods. And I try to lead a healthy lifestyle. I know when my meals lack vegetables (so I try to incorporate more), I go to therapy, I try to drink more water even though I can't stand it, etc. I need people like you who make fun of fat people (which you clearly did) to STOP! Because I'm trying my best to lead a healthier life! And so are so many that associate with the body positivity movement I'M SURE.
I think the first thing is also for obese / fat people to actually find acceptance with where they are… because I actually think that with true self love comes the wish to take care of one’s health. I think when I actuality love myself I want to treat my body right… but when I fight the way that I am making myself wrong for how fat I am… I stay in that rut. So in that case… I am not obese but was bullied for being a little over when I was young. And part of me craves to be firstly okay with how I am. And then out of self love and acceptance work myself out of being overweight. But not because of self hate, u know what I mean ?
we need to bring balance. no one should be shamed for being overweight (it doesn’t help anyone) but being unhealthy shouldn’t be celebrated. Some people genuinely find it hard to keep weight off no matter what they try, but the example of 6000 calories a day is someone who’s out of control and can’t ever be considered normal!
Something that is slightly concerning is ‘dieticians/nutritionists’ on social media who are promoting obesity and the ‘no unhealthy foods’ notion - has anyone else noticed this? Or am I just being cynical? 😅
Finally, a voice of reason! As someone who struggled with Anorexia as a teen, I became hyper aware of the way people like me were ostracized and criticized. I learned how to eat and live a healthy lifestyle, yet was always "called out" by others for being "healthy"... as if it was something negative. When I went Vegan, the criticism increased. I have been told that my way of living is "unhealthy". Please! The majority of these people spewing shit are also eating shit and calling it healthy. Since when is a diet full of processed shit healthy?! I am just done. People are idiots.
I became overweight and aren't happy. I have a infection in my feet what makes walking and a lot of sport almost impossible without screaming from pain, but I started eating healthy, don't get junkfood but I love potato chips so reward myself each weekend with a tiny bag, not a big bag every day anymore but fully dieting never works. I agree about this movement, I've seen people applauding obesity because they feel comfortable but criticize healthy people by being "skinny bit***".. It's so sad where this world is going
Yay you! I also became overweight and absolutely hate it, only 10-15 kilos (my goal weight will be higher if I can work out) but it's been uncomfortable enough. I've had fat on my NECK and back and hips that's finally gone after 6 weeks of healthy eating. I do love a chili cheese burger from a restaurant near me so I've had one of those! I think eating your potato chips is exactly what'll help you not give up the healthy eating, good luck keeping it up! ☀️
Omg thank god for Miles!! Thank you for saying this! I am not overweight and i try to be healthy (😂) but i still dont love my body. But when i talk about eating more of the healthy stuff with my friend, she kinda gives out to me almost making me sound and look like i am obsessed and wrong. She is overweight.
First things first: it is nice to see you back! I do not even know where to start: this video says it all. They say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions and I think the body positive movement could be a magnificent example. Be compassionate, caring and understanding is a beautiful manifestation of the human being but... when it is too much? When it turns into something else? Our society pushes everything to the extremes, often loosing sight of what is actually important - acceptance becomes unconditioned support, without distinction. Not all the stories are the same, not all the struggles are meant to be celebrated and definitely no discomfort comes without a reason and a lesson. Thank you for being so honestly outspoken - this is CLEANLY my favourite video of 2023!
100%!! I lost weight a few years ago (still in a healthy range according to my bmi). My women friends were telling me I needed to stop, that I wasn't healthy etc. I felt great. Men were telling me I looked amazing. Fast forward a few years. My scale tells me I am over-weight. The only person who has ever told me I am over-weight is my doctor. I don't feel good about my body right now, but I am not dancing all over the internet praising my size. I'm trying to cut the junk food, and up the healthy food. I know being this size is shortening my life span. Thanks for speaking the truth. More people need to hear this isn't a healthy lifestyle.
All of your points in this video were my thoughts on the subject exactly. And I think the reality is, when I speak about this topic in different groups friends coworkers etc, most people ARE uncomfortable with the promotion of obesity, but afraid to say it. People want to seem “woke” I think or not get cancelled by society. For me, I became 50 pounds overweight during the pandemic and in hindsight a big reason why was I was really influenced by the body positivity movement (I was a young, impressionable 20 something) and also my friends at the time were too. I have since lost all the weight and gained my happiness and health back! So my problem with the movement as someone who has seen both sides, this is incredible damaging to young people, the glorification and acceptance of being unhealthy. The reality is, when I was at my heaviest I hated my body and it’s lack of ability. I couldn’t sit down on floor without back and knee pain, I could barely walk or do yoga or lifts (things I do everyday now). Also, nutritionally, I hate how as a society a lot of people don’t realize in order to bet that overweight you have to eat seriously calorically dense meals way past the point of feeling full… Which destroys your bodies systems and is painful. Yeah so sorry for the novel, but man I just hate what this movement has become so much. Your video was on point!🙏🏼
You are 100% correct. I am obese and on a weight loss journey myself, I recently lost 70lbs and still aiming for another 50 to goal. NEVER ONCE would I say "love yourself at any size" If you REALLY LOVE YOURSELF, you would lose weight and TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. THAT IS SELFLOVE! I only gained the weight when I didnt care about myself and was depressed. I hate when woman say "I love being a large woman" THAT IS A LIE!!! LOL If you are medically unable to lose weight or have an underlying issue, that is different. If you are big bone, short, tall, etc love yourself, but NO EXCUSE for being OBESE! Body Positivity slogan should read....LOVE YOURSELF ENOUGHHHH TO GET HEALTHY! Ok, im done with my rant! LOL
Thank you so much for speaking out about the serious double standards here. I really don't understand how pretty much the entire internet is obsessed with how unhealthy restrictive EDs are, but rarely do they talk about the much more common opposite end of the spectrum!!
Love this and your message as always, Miles! It does upset me that the fat acceptance movement has really moved away from the core message. As someone who's been overweight, was way underweight and now found a healthy medium, I really feel unless you're super overweight, you don't get a say. For fat people, I'm not fat enough. Skinny people, I'm now not skinny enough. But I feel great in my skin, and what about the girls with a bit of chonk who likes to work out and tell me I shouldn't get a say? When I was skinnier, but went to buy some clothes for my elderly grandmother at a Penningtons, I had a supremely RUDE cashier telling me I wasn't fat enough to shop there. I like looking at good looking people on magazines and tv, who doesn't? I don't always want super skinny fashion models, or full mode cast members for my 600 pound life speaking for me. I want those with some muscle, a bit of cellulite or the girl who after a breakup has a week in bed eating poorly. Real life peeps, where you at? The one thing I do slightly disagree with is that for men, the "comfort" of being overweight is the "dad bod". There were some articles where they said women were asked and "preferred" the dad bod. When Tess Holiday says about "preference" - even on dating apps I prefer to want to chat with people with a healthy lifestyle. Oh, we can do something physical and you don't DIE? Sweet. No? Oh damn, now I'm a hater.
9:49 The audacity these skinny shamers have, as if it's not body shaming just as badly or even worse. Stressing out people who already deal with food intolerances, allergies, burn out, IBS or other things that are only worsening with stress is just pure evil. And seems that 90% of these body shamers are women projecting their own untreated ED's.
As a person who's lost almost 400lbs, there's nothing good about being fat or obese. It's unhealthy and miserable. At one point I was just existing not living, both my parents passed before I even reached my mid 20s. Gaining my health has given me my life back. I've never felt so good, never felt this happy and I'm able to experience life the way I want to. You can never convince me that being obese/fat is a good thing. These processed foods and sugars are an addiction.
It’s crazy to see how much energy, research and debates are being wasted on defending an objectively deadly lifestyle while instead it could all be directed at the source of the problem “why is it easier for people to be unhealthy than healthy today and how can we change that”. Our food environment is so bad that 3/4th of any random supermarket is made of ultra sugary and processed food, but im supposed to believe that the bad people are the ones begging you to take care of yourself and watch what you eat? Of course as a society we should always strive towards a world without discrimination, no one should ever have to feel inferior because of their ethnicity, sex, physical appearance or anything of the sort BUT this process should never happen at the expense of people’s health
I've suffered from body acne for years, and I have many dark acne scars and when I saw this body positivity movement starting, I really thought I would start seeing more people with acne and normalizing it. But no. Its still viewed as gross and not normalized. Someone like myself who is a healthy weight but with acne would not be accepted by "body positivity". By the way love this
Miles, Thank you for speaking up. I'm not quite as brave given the past hate i have received. Have never liked the " health at every size" movement, I feel if I had bought into it i would've died. I've always been overweight and in my 20's yes i had no health issues. However by 32 i started having serious issues. At my highest i weighed in at nearly 300lbs ( embarrassing), i have since lost 105lbs and reversed all my health concerns. Still got a ways to go but I have more energy and mobility now which allows me to be a better caregiver for my elderly mother and more productive with my business. as a grown women i can honestly say being that large is NEVER healthy. When you're young your body can get away with it a bit but you're never functioning at your "best". The message they are spreading is downright dangerous.
Me and my husband have talked about this a lot. He has a great body. Very fit, toned, abs, etc. Despite that he constantly receives negative remarks on his appearance like "damn dont you eat?" "You need to eat a cheeseburger" and many more. The sad part is that he has always had a negative self-image and wanted to gain more weight. Every time someone says something like that to him it really hurts his feelings. And it infuriates me. The main reason being is because 99% of the time it is coming from an overweight or obese woman. The other 1% is from obese men. Like I said he's not scrawny at all which there is nothing wrong with but he's very fit. We grew very differently. I grew up in a city in Florida he grew up in the country north Carolina. When I was growing up most people were of average weight. My dad was a boxer who was also very fit. People here tend to be more overweight and unhealthy. I have never experienced a healthy person being body shamed until I saw it happen to him. Personally I think overweight people who bash someone who is healthy or has a normal BMI are really unhappy with themselves. I think that they want that health and vitality that they see in them and that's why they make negative remarks. No one who is truly happy with and loves themselves wants to bring another person down. It's all a persona.
I also have mainly been skinny shamed since over 3 decades by other girls and women who project their own issues. All of them always had several untreated Eating Disorders, not obese cuz it's not so common in mid Europe just normal weight but unhappy with not being slim. Men who do it are an exception, but both have in common being always complete losers in life and so envious. It's infuriating where they get the audacity to make up lies about someone else and unsolicited comments. It's truly shocking how shallow, toxic and flatbrained too many women and even teenage girls are.
It’s easier to join a movement when it justifies your bad behavior and enables you. The lack of personal responsibility and real self love is a huge issue. If people truly loved themselves, they’d eat and move their bodies like they do
I just want to give you a big thanks for posting a video about this :) we live in a world today that sadly promotes it’s okay to have low healthy standards and it could confuse people sometimes, it confused me for a bit as well, thank you for the big reminder, please make more videos like this :)
I work in an xray department and unfortunately all equipment has weight limits! Its horrible being unable to do a CT scan on a patient for a stroke or someone in a major trauma because the mechanism of the bed wont work due to the weight. Even on normal xrays being obese can massively impact the quality of the images and so affects the patients treatment and outcome. It also gives patients a higher radiation dose as extra exposure is needed to see through the extra tissue!
Healthy is not being obese. We must continue to promote healthy lifestyles with good duet and exercise while not passing judgment on those working towards those goals who are not there or struggle to get healthy. If they are trying thats all you can ask for..but people promoting its ok to stay obese and eat crap everyday( moderation with treats totally fine) is just wrong and we are lying to ourselves. We need to support those who are obese to help them get healthier and not be content staying that way.
It worries me what this country will be like in the future. If you look at pictures from 30+ years ago, obesity was not common. Now its more uncommon to see a slim person. I went to Spain for a weekend last month and I think I saw one overweight person, they have such healthier lifestyles and diets to the UK. It’s madness that people are in such denial about health here 🤦🏻♀️
Thank you for spitting straight facts. There are not enough people with common sense speaking up on all the crazy things going on in the world. Always refreshing watching your videos.
Agreed!! Although I will say in the men vs women discussion, I do think women are still unfortunately held to a higher standard in terms of being in shape. We've come a long way in the women's rights movement but are still often commodified. 'Dad bod' is the new sexy but 'mom bod' is gross despite having physically endured pregnancy, birth and postpartum (or just in general, female hormones go through so so much throughout each month and it can really take a toll). The rise in normalising obesity is really scary and I legit agree with every point you made.
Ask most women, they don’t want a guy with a ‘dad bod’ - because ultimately, being in shape (whether you’re male or female) is attractive because it implies discipline, hard work, and self love in its highest form aka looking after your health. What miles is trying to say in this video is not that both men and women aren’t held to unrealistic standards, but that more often than not the people at the forefront of the body positivity movement are women who are celebrated for being overweight. Men who are fat are seen as losers and women who are fat are seen as ‘brave’ ‘confident’ ‘beautiful’ and ‘not conforming to society’s standards’
YESSSSS 👏👏👏Keep the truth coming. It is so frustrating how accepted it has become to bask in the victim/poor me mentality. The fact that this toxic mentality and subsequent low health standards is 'in trend' and somewhat encouraged while people who exercise regularly and care what they put in their body are deemed 'obsessive' and 'restrictive' is wild to me. The human race is getting scarier every day lol
First, welcome back! We missed you Second, I couldn’t agree more with everything you said, not just how staying overweight is a risk for your health, but more in general how staying THERE, the concept of stagnation.. that’s bad. That’s knowing something is bad for you but telling yourself stories and do nothing to change it.
People who failed their diets and feel bad about it, but don't want to try harder, find creative ways to try to feel better about themselves and that's all this is.
Good for you, Miles and thank you for using your platform to speak out about obesity. Have you seen the U.S. obesity charts by age? They drop drastically at age 80. Why? Because you can't live and be obese. But so so many health problems arrive before that.
I deeply respect you not “walking on eggshells”, Miles… and so much more of that is needed, no matter what the topic may be. And while I very much agree with you on so many points, I do think there perhaps needs to be more awareness around how actually harmful & deadly anorexia can be. Yes of course being obese comes with a whole set of potential co-morbidities and likely takes years off of one’s life… being severely underweight is a far more immediate threat and will kill one much sooner; it’s the number one cause of mortality under “mental health”. I know you never implied this wasn’t the case and I appreciated that you touched upon how both extremes can be harmful & dangerous… just wanted to flesh out this point a little bit.
I completely agree! I’m morbidly obese and I struggle with the easiest things. But I know I am unhealthy. For the last couple of months I am finally working on me and me relationship with food and how I see myself. And actually exercising 🤯 I was never taught what was healthy just constantly taunted even from my mom that I was fat. But literally my parents were the ones buying the foods that made me fat. Then would call me lazy worthless and fat. It has taken a long time to see myself different. I have so many health problems bc I have been fat my whole life. Im trying to change that but it hard. I have friends that are fat too and are raising their children to be the same and I get so mad at them bc they don’t understand that bc they are raising their kids that way their children may not out live then. It breaks my heart bc I wouldn’t wish all the problems I have one my worst enemy. Thank you for saying something. It’s not acceptable. I believe you should learn to love yourself and accept where you are but not promote obesity! On a side note I am now 333lbs down from 375. And it’s not just from eating WFPB ie just potatoes and broccoli 🙄 I am vegan but not that kind 😂 Miles I love you and love following you. Your sarcasm and sense of him out are 👌
I'm currently trying to lose weight and it's really difficult to talk about it with others. I'm trying to go slow (1 kg per month) and I'm also trying to implement permanent life style changes, especially more exercise. I was slightly overweight by BMI standards when I begun and am now on the way to my comfort weight that I had before the pandemic. I'm kind of hiding what I'm doing, although the changes are already visible and people have definitely noticed. I have a lot of people with eating disorders around me and it's really difficult for me, because I feel like I'm a walking trigger to them. Some of my friends who know what I'm doing and are without eating disorders are worried about me being too restrictive and possibly developing an eating disorder. I was criticised for being overweight and I am now criticised for restricting and losing weight. It's honestly exhausting, because I constantly have to pause my weight loss so other people don't see what exactly I'm doing. Even the people who don't have eating disorders around me are being influenced by me and constantly try to find out my weight and the amount of calories I eat, because they also want to lose weight now, which is stressing me out. I researched weight loss a lot and tried to make it as healthy as possible but also doable at the same time (honestly if I go any slower I don't think I will be able to continue, because I will lose motivation). People trying to copy what I'm doing and comparing themselves to me is really stressful, because no matter how many times I tell them that their numbers are in no way comparable to my numbers they feel the need to match mine. Like people who exercise regularly and have lots of muscles start thinking they are eating too much, because they need more calories than me and I can't make them understand that I am a potato that previously basically never exercised and has zero muscles. Also my entire family needs very little food for some reason at at this point I think our genetics are to blame. So a few people around me have started crash diets that seem way to quick and unsustainable to me, because of me. Like a friend recently told me she started losing weight now too and is down 3 kg in 1 week and proceeded to be stressed out by the fact that she ate more calories than I do. I really don't want to give everyone around me an unhealthy relationship with food, but just seeing me lose weight is enough for healthy fit people around me to start questioning themselves. It is incredibly stressful and I basically only have one person I feel like I can talk to about this safely, because she isn't influenced by my behaviour at all and supports my approach. I think a huge part of the reason why this entire topic has become so difficult is because weight loss is incredibly difficult, especially if you are trying to do it in a healthy and sustainable way. There are so many bad practices advertised online for weight loss and people around me do the craziest diets to be "healthy" when in reality what their doing oftentimes is unbalanced, unhealthy and unsustainable. I understand why bigger people don't want to be told to lose weight and don't want to be made to feel ashamed for their body. It really doesn't help, because it makes you feel really bad about yourself and gives you a negative mindset that leads to a restrict and binge cycle in my experience. Positive sustainable long-term change is only possible if you love yourself and are willing to invest time and effort into your body to make it healthier. I was only able to start trying to be healthy once I removed myself from all the people that kept on shaming me for my weight. At the same time people really shouldn't delude themselves into thinking that being obese or overweight are healthy things, because at the end of the day you really do feel better if you are at a healthy weight, exercise regularly and eat healthy. I feel like the well is so poisoned when it comes to this topic that any kind of discussion about it turns into a mess. What is definitely missing is good advice for weight loss that is healthy and sustainable and actually sounds doable. Weight loss advice that is healthy and supported by science often makes you feel like it's impossible to lose weight and to keep it off long-term. I have read many articles by scientists with the bottom line being that diets don't work, nothing really works, you are going to gain the weight back anyways so don't even bother trying. On the other hand you have a whole industry of diet products that suck and are unhealthy and promote crash diets (lose 10 kg in 1 week bullshit) that prey on the desperation of people. And then you have a lot of people constantly calling out the unhealthy diet advise and now no one knows how to do weight loss in a healthy and sustainable way anymore, because everything is apparently unhealthy and an eating disorder or will fail anyways. As a person who has no background in science and nutrition I am just left to try and figure this out on my own. It just makes you feel defeated. Add to this the incredible pressure on women to look a certain way and things really spiral out of control. Women get taught early on that our appearance is our value and our goal in life should be to find a man that wants to marry us and that is never ever going to happen if we aren't thin. As women we are laser focused on every single thing that does not fit the beauty standard on our body. We talk about hip dips (the majority of women have them stop turning it into a problem, instagram is lying to you), bellies that are not flat (guys the uterus needs to go somewhere stop acting like it's too much body fat when it's literally our anatomy), thigh gaps (please stop) etc. It's misogyny. I can't speak for men, but the reason why men are featured less in this discussion is in my opinion because men's value isn't purely defined by their appearance in the eyes of society. I have not seen men's bodies discussed in the same way as women's bodies have been. There is way less laser focus on specific body parts and shapes. That doesn't mean that men don't get criticised for being overweight and that they can't feel bad about their body and appearance, it just means, that it doesn't affect your societal value as much. So losing weight also feels like you are catering to society's misogynistic opinions on women and that's a whole new can of worms to unpack. So yeah, this topic is a mine field and I am really frustrated with it. tl;dr: this topic has become so toxic, because weight loss is difficult.
I think a lot of people getting caught up in this thinking are young. Sure, maybe being obese in your 20s doesn’t affect you that much. What about in your 30s, 40s, 50s? When you wanna have kids or do have them. It gets more difficult to make big lifestyle changes and lose weight as you get older.
thank you for commenting on this! I grew up with this double standard- I was underweight in highschool: some complimented me on my slim figure but a lot bashed me and I never understood how that was complemented acceptable but mentioning big or fat or chubby was extreme taboo and would get defended by everyone. I'm not saying it was wrong that they were treated with upmost respect, I just wished that I'd have gotten the same treatment. Which is why I'm grateful that you adress these struggles as well, they don't get talked about often enough
I've read a few posts - I too resonate with the thoughts of those suffering/suffered from anorexia. I too am a 'visible' anorexic and wear my disease for all to see. I remember when I first signed up to MFP (My Fitness Pal) I disclosed that I was struggling with various foods, etc., and wanted to know if others were in the same boat. My account was quickly 'flagged' and my account was deleted. I eventually got back into the site (I like tracking etc.,) but never post anything about my personal situation. PREACH Miles...PREACH!!💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
You just nailed it: it's shameful and unacceptable to be anorexic, but to pack on 600 lbs eating donuts is freedom and positivity lol. I fully understand the danger of only valuing yourself once you're thin/losing weight.. but whoa. This is the other end of the spectrum
Only part way thru but have to say thank you! I am a mom of 2 and an ultra runner. When I am at a heavy training load I lose weight. The amount of times I have been attacked, told I look sick, that I am skinny enough and should stop running, that “I look anorexic” it’s so horribly frustrating! (Especially because I am still strong and a healthy BMI and healthy amount of body fat)
I feel this 100%! I'm also a competitive runner and I have PTSD; both impact my weight in that I'm visibly skinny. I've been told all these same things, even by strangers who have yelled at me out their car windows: "EAT SOMETHING!" These are always the people driving places 2 blocks away instead of walking and eating fast food at the wheel.
I think we all need to stop talking about other people's bodies, TBH. Whether someone it "too fat" or "too skinny" it's really none of our business (maybe unless you are a loved one to that person and are genuinely concerned about their health, but even then, I'd tread carefully.). And toward people we don't even really know? Just shut up and be a friend. Not a judge. A friend.
@@kates7277 I hear you! Appreciate your reply and that I am by far not the only one! Happy running and wish you joy and success in your training and races
Agree with you 100% imagine the human heart is the size of a fist and how it’s fighting to keep these people alive. I could go on and on. Great video Miles ❤
You are right. And obviously you have been affected by the state of society and the collective energy that many still get swept up in. I experienced severe underweight from stress …and grew up with body issues feeling overweight unnecessarily. Distorted body image then . It’s a very unconscious state. Now more aware… this all Miles… is the surfacing of human darkness. Greed. Vanity. Over consuming and the control of industry on people. We see it. It’s a time for these things to come out… it is the darkness that isn’t trying to hide. It’s obviously proud of itself. I transmute it by accepting its there… and as you have done point it out… and live in loving kindness. Work on myself. Sad part is it affecting health and people’s livelihood. And lessens the number of somewhat normal people twho hold disciplined valuest. My teacher said… “Don’t let the suckers drag you down.” Take care. I appreciate you.
I think the deeper issue is the popularity of the victim mindset and the fatpositivity community is one of the best examples. It's so much easier blaming everyone else for your condition than accepting reality and changing your lifestyle. I think there are deeper issues, mainly a lack of love, trauma, etc. I sometimes have phases of binge-eating and never once do I do it when I'm happy but always when I'm stressed/depressed and find food to be the only comfort I've got left. Those people need help and I hope one day they're willing to accept it before it's too late. The worst thing is that younger generations are dragged into this whole mess. We raise children who will have no idea what is healthy and what not, and food education is already almost non-existent.
100% agree, I don’t feel it’s even compassionate or caring/loving to the person to not be honest with them when they’re at that state and weight and could potentially die.
I think the extreme from body positivity came from the fashion industry and mainstream media/hollywood pushing underweight women as the norm. Being 10lbs overweight (per BMI) can be considered clinically obese, so there is a very thin line. I would have like to see you talk about the other extreme too, where some women are afraid to eat over 1000 calories in fear of gaining weight. Or detox teas that promote EDs. Definitely extremes to both sides but you seem to have a vendetta against fat women 😅
I don't know how it is in the states, where obese people are the majority. But in Germany obese people are discriminated. They are being verbally and physically assaulted. I can only imagine how miserable one must feel being assaulted just for existing in their body. And that definitely doesn't help with getting healthy. But confidence and learning to love yourself no matter how your body looks does. I agree that the body positivity movement should include all bodies. It is important for everybody to be accepted the way they are. Every movement has some people who twist the meaning of the whole thing, but we shouldn't lose sight of what the body positivity movement was supposed to be, a way for everyone to feel comfortable in their body.
The trouble is that in the UK (and of course the US) being overweight or obese is more common than being a healthy BMI (i.e., it is normal to be fat), so men who are a healthy weight are sometimes called skinny, underweight and malnourished by overweight or obese people (ironically, including men on statins, etc.). This is true for my brother who is teased by overweight/obese work colleges for his healthy weight. Of course, in most non-western countries (e.g., much of Asia) this wouldn't be an issue because in such countries a healthy BMI is not considered unhealthy.
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“It’s not fat phobic to care about your health.” PERIOD.
I love this video and as a former anorexic I can confirm the double standards. I was insulted on the streets, people spit on me and random people at the supermarket felt obligated to tell me, what foods I can and can't eat while noone cared about the severely obese people next to me buying a a grocery cart full of calorie-dense, highly processed foods.
But I also want to add something bout terminology: for me it was very important to not see food as good or bad anymore but as nutritious or highly processed. For me a diet which included sweets and highly processed snacks like chips, ice cream, chocolate, etc was very important to overcome my fear of certain foods and actually including them helped me become "healthier" again. So I kinda understand where this aversion against terms like "healthy" come from, because they used to be highly associated with a very restricitve diet culture. But its undeniable that some food are better for your health than others, some are even detremental and in the end, a "hwalthy" diet looks different for everyone depending on their lifestyle.
Promoting obesity certainly isnt healthy for anyone and the people that do encourage others to gain more weight are just completely out of touch with reality!
Body positivity to me means, accepting where you are now and the parts of you, you can't change, but it also means, making a decision to life a better and healthier life out of self love and self respect!
I feel u girl
Oh girl, I’m so sorry. If it does make you feel better, I had a battle to fight against a mass in my throat and I had to stay in hospital and then with a tracheostomy for a long time, i inevitably lost weight and people still had the “bravery” to tell me “eat more please!”
As a current anorexic I get so mad when rabdom people on the street call after you " fuck, don't be anorexic"... just happened to me the other day🙃
@@esztersimon2210 ikr?
I mean that is what body positivity is all about, not hating random people you don’t know. You were struggling with anorexia, those people buying unhealthy food could have been struggling with food addictions or binge eating disorder. Nobody deserves to be judged unless you actually know what they’re going through. Everyone deserves to be healthy and we all need support to get there. Telling a person don’t be anorexic, don’t be obese, don’t have an eating disorder, doesn’t give them the tools necessary to even want to change. I’m very happy you’re in a better place!!
Apparently enjoying nutritious foods, not wanting to eat crap, and caring about your fitness and health means you have an eating disorder to a lot of these people.
yep! thats the definition of projection lol ….
I’m in the morbidly obese category. I also have a neurological spinal cord disorder that causes weak leg muscles so limits mobility. However, I went vegan this month, simply to cut out a bunch of crap that was causing digestive issues (meat was making me sick). I’m hoping that major shift in dietary habits helps with my weight.
All that being said, I’ve always been uncomfortable with this current version of the body positivity movement. Why anyone would want to be a weight that makes short walks difficult, I will never understand.
I will say the few weeks that I’ve cut all animal products from my diet, I have never felt better.
Thank you Miles for saying what you said.
Best of luck with your journey! 🌱🥬💚
@@robynskeletons6881 thank you. It’s amazing how much better I feel eliminating all animal products. I just had to have my annual blood work done (my doc is a bit of a sadist and knows how much needles freak me out). I’ll be curious if things look different/better.
What an amazing journey you've started. Congratulations! I've just started cutting animal products too and really feel the difference. My next big one is all processed foods with sugar which is a tough one. I thinks Miles' meals are a great blueprint for health and find myself making similar for lunch and dinner now. Good luck to you. I think it's amazing!!
I swear it's becoming acceptable to have low health standards
more than acceptable, it's praised as long as you love ur body (or even hate it and are 'working on self love') and show it off. it's so backwards
It doesn't help that a lot of health insurance policies claim that weight loss aids are "cosmetic" even when obesity causes so much illness.
this is so true! I lost 20 lbs. about 3 years ago. I wasn't "obese", but I was "chubby" and what some would call skinny-fat. I started running and changing my diet. I went from BMI 23 to 19- so still in a "normal healthy" range. People were accusing me of having an eating disorder. 🙄Yeah, sure! Because when you lose weight, it can only be because something is wrong...but gaining weight is seen as "normal" especially in my age group amongst women. I think it's just jealousy. They feel triggert seeing others succeed where they failed. If they could snip a finger and be skinny without doing any work, they would do it.
One thing that has always puzzled me is how often these FA's are all about anti-capitalism yet are the purchasers of obscene amounts of junk from the largest corporations in the world.
I used to be almost 400lbs and it is absolutly not fun. It is a miserable way to live! If anyone says they are happy and healthy... they are LYING!
miles coming through with more TRUTH and FACTS 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 this movement really has become about people identifying with their victimhood - it's sad really
Thank you for speaking up on this. It’s getting out of control.
I am severely hypothyroid. I have Hashimoto. I only have half of my thyroid left. I‘m also heavily muscled and very, very active (15k to 20k steps a day). I‘m barely overweight (67kg to 1,63m). These diseases are not an excuse, they are a hindrance. I spent years looking for the right doctor and medication, but I took matters in my own hands and lost weight. Now I feel so healthy like I never did before.
Hey curious what you did? 🥰
In all fairness, some people use "preference" to be an asshole. Five years ago, my boyfriend had a "preference" for skinny people and because of that "preference" he commented on everything I ate that wasn't healthy or seemed like an excessive amount (even if it was just a big salad). Even though I was studying nutrition at the time, ate very healthy, exercised every day for 30-60 minutes, slept well and just had a really healty lifestyle in general. He did that until one day I screamed at him that he was a personified eating disorder and if he didn't immediatly stop, I would break up with him. I also made sure to list him the death rates of eating disorders and also death rates of underweight people dying due to unrelated health issues. Also a study about my specific chronic disease where they actually found out that weighing a bit more (like BMI 23-24) actually DECREASED mortality.
He has since been to therapy.
Ironically, his eating habits are complete shit.
when he's been away for a while you know somethings been brewing 🌪
I am overweight because of PCOS and iron deficiency due to celiac disease. I cannot sleep or function because of both and am a zombie day after day. I eat super healthy 90% of the time. Semi healthy the rest. But I would never consider myself healthy because I am overweight, it just is not possible. The mind set of big and healthy is absolutely ridiculous! The added weight even if someone ate perfectly healthy 100% of the time, is still going to be hard on your body and your organs.
darling I hope you recover to full health, it is possible. PCOS and iron deficiency isn't a life sentence, just got to have patience and see the right people to help you. I have serious hormonal issues and anemia and in recovery myself. Doctors haven't helped but have gone to functional doctors and slowly my body is regulating and coming back on line.
@@ne5464 Honestly I've given up with trying to get help from Drs. Over the years all I've heard was I don't know. And there's nothing that can be done about it. I'm in my 40s and was diagnosed with pcos when I was 22. Over half of my life with no help for it. I cannot take iron supplements because it causes so much pain and ruins my digestive system for weeks. I have to wait until my hemaglobin gets to 100 or lower before I can het infusions. The only way I can take iron. Most of the time my hemaglobin sits just above 100. My Ferritin is dangerously low and it still will not be enough for infusions. It all has to do with hemaglobin levels. I feel like I'm at a loss. I do inject B12. My body will not absorb it because of all the damage done from celiac.
I feel like I want to cry most days because the ones who are supposed to help us get back to being healthy refuse to.
Thank you for your kind words 💖💖 I am glad you're onto recovery 😊
God bless you for your honesty!! And also I feel
for you. Thanks for this comment x
@@HealthyCrazyCool thank you for your video. Many people need to open their eyes to this and understand. More people need to come out and say this. No sugar coating. It won't help anything or anyone.
You're kind, Miles 😊
I had to pause this and say THANK YOU for an excellent point you just made! I’m currently on my weight loss journey. I’m 20 lbs down since last year, with another 45 to go! I was under the impression that body positivity meant loving yourself and your body enough to appreciate it, accept it, and do all you can to treat it well. I’m 42 and I began dealing with digestive issues last year that let me know it was time to make some major changes. I have slipped many times, fallen off from my workout regimen, but it’s never “over”. I don’t give up on myself. Because I truly love myself and I know that love is not just an emotion, but an action word. It’s wonderful to love yourself at whatever size! But some of these people need to get real about what that means. You don’t kill someone/something you love. And if you KNOW the foods you eat are damaging your health, there’s no way you can call that body positivity. There’s simply nothing positive about it. 🤷🏽♀️
I've heard obese people saying that the worst people to speak to about this kind of thing are people who have lost weight. Do they not think WHY that could be!?! Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they've experienced life in an obese body and then one in a smaller and healthier one? I've lost 70lbs and I would love nothing more than these fat activists to spend a day in a smaller body and see if they still think it's completely normal to be carrying so much extra weight. Thank you for speaking out about this, obesity is being normalised and it is terrifying.
As a bigger girl, there’s a huge difference between someone who’s a bit overweight yet healthy and someone who’s morbidly obese. Obesity comes with a ton of health problems, there’s no way around it.
absolutely! my main point 💯 x
True but do you believe someone can be a bit underweight and still be healthy though?
@@manifestingsanctuary my sister is slightly underweight based on BMI, about 112 lbs at 5'8", mainly due to hyperthyroidism, for which she takes medication. Other than that condition and a back (disk) issue, she's very healthy. Meaning, no heart, lung, or other systemic problems. She just has an overactive thyroid.
@@BohoBunMom I do believe someone can be underweight and in very good health-no thyroid issues either, i am thin by nature and ive been perfectly physically healthy underweight and not restricting my calories-eating as much as my partner who was near double my weight (i have a fast metabolism and anxiety causes more NEAT)....but I notice in this world overweight figure is starting to be looked at as healthy by certain people and underweight always considered unhealthy by many of the same people so this is why i ask. There's often a double standard in the usa with fat acceptance movement (normalizing overweight body) often comes unacceptance of naturally thin people.
@@manifestingsanctuary I think so -- because body type can dictate someone be on the slight under/overweight side, but still exercise and eat well. Do these people sometimes have metabolic or hormonal issues? Maybe. But, I think they can be healthy.
thank you for being a voice of reason on this topic! more people need to be speaking out against this movement, it’s damaging to people’s health and happiness and it’s hard to watch
PREACH!! Oh my god!! Some people are naturaly more skinny, and some naturaly more curvy, but being 300kilos is not natural for ANYONE! I know so many people , friends too, that are overweight to the point a 10 minute walk tires them and we should not be promoting that .
Truth bomb after truth bomb after truth bomb! Miles your delivery is 💯
Or everybody could just stop commenting on everyone else's bodies altogether. I mean, that's how body positivity began, right? Because everyone loves to hate fat people or extremely thin people? Maybe we don't need to make judgements about everyone else's health. Maybe we don't need to call people names or criticize anyone for the shape of their bodies. People who are already struggling with their weight are not encouraged to be healthier by being harassed.
If a fat person is walking down the street, it's not the place of the stranger next to them to start giving them on lecture on healthy eating. However, if that same fat person is making the claim, that health has nothing to do with weight, it's not harassment for someone to say that their claim is nonsense.
As a woman who battled obesity for years and now is still batling excess weight thank you. I can belivie the bullshits that the body positivy says, being morbid obese was a nightmare, the rashes, the sweat, I could barely walk half kilometer without being out of breath, I still have problems running due to the excess weight and I just hope my joints are not damaged beyond repair. I developed sleep apnea and it was running my quality of life.
I become vegan for ethical reason, but it literally saved me, I dont like to think were I would be now if I havent found veganism which helped me lose 30kg. And now people are commenting that I am "too skinny" and I should stop losing weight even thought I am still 20kg overeight according to the BMI (29.1). We literally lost touch of what a health weight looks like.
thank you so much for leaving this comment! Lots of love 🫶🏼
edits tho 😂😂 I forget how funny when you’ve missed a few weeks
THIS! Thank you for speaking up about this. I've worked in the health and fitness industry for nearly 15 years now (as a personal trainer and coach) and having watched this evolve over the last few years in particular has been so frustrating. 100% overweight and obese people are NOT a minority... they are the majority, and it's a huge health concern and cost for taxpayers.
right!! blows my mind when they say marginalised! 🥴. thank for this comment x
I have struggled with an eating disorder off and on for so many years. My body dysmorphia is extremely troubling and I feel that my view of my body and food will always be skewed. Long story short, it is extremely crippling and painful. My ED has ruined my life. It’s hell. However, objectively, I am a tall, thin woman. I’ve been told so many times how beautiful I am, that I could be a model, that I am so blessed and lucky to look the way I do. I can’t see it at all. I feel that everyone is lying to me and I believe that with so much conviction. I have these extreme mental fixations on certain parts of my body and it literally feels like I have schizophrenic tendencies sometimes, seeing things and feeling things that are not there. My point is, you never, ever know what someone may be battling and have no right to categorize which people are worthy of being in this body positivity/ eating disorder conversation. You never know someone’s trauma and it’s disgusting to try to assess someone’s level of validity just by observing their appearance or life objectively. This whole obsession society has with this hierarchy of victimhood is very appalling.
In 2010 my ex boyfriend burned my back in a fit of drunk rage before I left him. In 2024 I still and always will have those scars. Being body positive helped me to feel ok wearing cami tanks instead of hiding my scars in self loathing. That's what body positivity should be about. Things you cannot change. Not about how you ate yourself to deformity, ill health, and disability.
Fitness probably saved my life tbh. In treatment for anorexia I hated eating and I was pretty much miserable all the time. But when I started exercising (climbing+ working out at home) and eating healthy (yeah I still eat biscuits and stuff but mainly healthy) I started feeling way better and it made me feel actually okay about my body/recovering. But I guess since I'm not obese and I have muscles that's not positivity lol. Also ypur videos help me a lot lol you kinda got me hooked on peanut butter though 😳
I’m a huge fan of your videos and I love how even though I disagree with some of this (probably because we can all have our own ideas about everything and It feels personal)I still love your message because you do hit on some real key points.
It’s hard to hear someone say what you’re saying but it needs to be heard by all of us.
Thank you for being real Miles.
I've always been a strong person and carried extra pounds; I'm now morbidly obese and have debilitating back problems that I am praying lessen with weight loss. I've never bought into the Fat is Fab concept. I've dieted my entire life, struggled with damn near every kind of diet I've tried and obviously they all failed me in that I never was able to keep it off. I don't care if people think I'm pretty, I care that I'm able to do what I want and need to do physically.
Keep calling all these things out ! It's getting ridiculous
I think we can trust he will knowing miles 😅👏🏽
I followed you until you made the joke about the house needing to be big. And I believe that's EXACTLY what the body positivity movement is about: people who are overweight don't deserve to be made fun of or looked down upon EVEN IF they're not healthy, and don't fit the societal standards. NO ONE deserves to be made fun of or looked down upon. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE trying our best to live within our realities. And as someone who is overweight, that drinks protein shakes and make meals just like yours (because I copy them and I look up to your dedication to health and fitness), I also struggle with mental health issues and trauma like SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE, and my vice happens to be eating unhealthy foods. And I try to lead a healthy lifestyle. I know when my meals lack vegetables (so I try to incorporate more), I go to therapy, I try to drink more water even though I can't stand it, etc. I need people like you who make fun of fat people (which you clearly did) to STOP! Because I'm trying my best to lead a healthier life! And so are so many that associate with the body positivity movement I'M SURE.
🙄🙄🙄🙄 you're not exempt from criticism or jokes.
I think the first thing is also for obese / fat people to actually find acceptance with where they are… because I actually think that with true self love comes the wish to take care of one’s health. I think when I actuality love myself I want to treat my body right… but when I fight the way that I am making myself wrong for how fat I am… I stay in that rut. So in that case… I am not obese but was bullied for being a little over when I was young. And part of me craves to be firstly okay with how I am. And then out of self love and acceptance work myself out of being overweight. But not because of self hate, u know what I mean ?
we need to bring balance. no one should be shamed for being overweight (it doesn’t help anyone) but being unhealthy shouldn’t be celebrated. Some people genuinely find it hard to keep weight off no matter what they try, but the example of 6000 calories a day is someone who’s out of control and can’t ever be considered normal!
you Nailed this from every angle!!! nothing is kinder than the truth x
Something that is slightly concerning is ‘dieticians/nutritionists’ on social media who are promoting obesity and the ‘no unhealthy foods’ notion - has anyone else noticed this? Or am I just being cynical? 😅
100%
I've noticed it and it's making me less excited to become a dietician...
@@carrained be a woke dietician for us please.
jokes aside this is such an important message Miles! always staying true 💫
Finally, a voice of reason! As someone who struggled with Anorexia as a teen, I became hyper aware of the way people like me were ostracized and criticized. I learned how to eat and live a healthy lifestyle, yet was always "called out" by others for being "healthy"... as if it was something negative. When I went Vegan, the criticism increased. I have been told that my way of living is "unhealthy". Please! The majority of these people spewing shit are also eating shit and calling it healthy. Since when is a diet full of processed shit healthy?! I am just done. People are idiots.
I became overweight and aren't happy. I have a infection in my feet what makes walking and a lot of sport almost impossible without screaming from pain, but I started eating healthy, don't get junkfood but I love potato chips so reward myself each weekend with a tiny bag, not a big bag every day anymore but fully dieting never works. I agree about this movement, I've seen people applauding obesity because they feel comfortable but criticize healthy people by being "skinny bit***".. It's so sad where this world is going
Yay you! I also became overweight and absolutely hate it, only 10-15 kilos (my goal weight will be higher if I can work out) but it's been uncomfortable enough. I've had fat on my NECK and back and hips that's finally gone after 6 weeks of healthy eating. I do love a chili cheese burger from a restaurant near me so I've had one of those! I think eating your potato chips is exactly what'll help you not give up the healthy eating, good luck keeping it up! ☀️
THANK YOU! sad to say thank you for speaking just the truth but apparently the truth is offensive these days!
Omg thank god for Miles!! Thank you for saying this! I am not overweight and i try to be healthy (😂) but i still dont love my body. But when i talk about eating more of the healthy stuff with my friend, she kinda gives out to me almost making me sound and look like i am obsessed and wrong. She is overweight.
First things first: it is nice to see you back!
I do not even know where to start: this video says it all. They say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions and I think the body positive movement could be a magnificent example. Be compassionate, caring and understanding is a beautiful manifestation of the human being but... when it is too much? When it turns into something else? Our society pushes everything to the extremes, often loosing sight of what is actually important - acceptance becomes unconditioned support, without distinction. Not all the stories are the same, not all the struggles are meant to be celebrated and definitely no discomfort comes without a reason and a lesson.
Thank you for being so honestly outspoken - this is CLEANLY my favourite video of 2023!
100%!! I lost weight a few years ago (still in a healthy range according to my bmi). My women friends were telling me I needed to stop, that I wasn't healthy etc. I felt great. Men were telling me I looked amazing. Fast forward a few years. My scale tells me I am over-weight. The only person who has ever told me I am over-weight is my doctor. I don't feel good about my body right now, but I am not dancing all over the internet praising my size. I'm trying to cut the junk food, and up the healthy food. I know being this size is shortening my life span. Thanks for speaking the truth. More people need to hear this isn't a healthy lifestyle.
All of your points in this video were my thoughts on the subject exactly. And I think the reality is, when I speak about this topic in different groups friends coworkers etc, most people ARE uncomfortable with the promotion of obesity, but afraid to say it. People want to seem “woke” I think or not get cancelled by society. For me, I became 50 pounds overweight during the pandemic and in hindsight a big reason why was I was really influenced by the body positivity movement (I was a young, impressionable 20 something) and also my friends at the time were too. I have since lost all the weight and gained my happiness and health back! So my problem with the movement as someone who has seen both sides, this is incredible damaging to young people, the glorification and acceptance of being unhealthy. The reality is, when I was at my heaviest I hated my body and it’s lack of ability. I couldn’t sit down on floor without back and knee pain, I could barely walk or do yoga or lifts (things I do everyday now). Also, nutritionally, I hate how as a society a lot of people don’t realize in order to bet that overweight you have to eat seriously calorically dense meals way past the point of feeling full… Which destroys your bodies systems and is painful.
Yeah so sorry for the novel, but man I just hate what this movement has become so much. Your video was on point!🙏🏼
Thank you so much for this comment! 🫶🏼I hope everyone sees it ✨
You are 100% correct. I am obese and on a weight loss journey myself, I recently lost 70lbs and still aiming for another 50 to goal. NEVER ONCE would I say "love yourself at any size" If you REALLY LOVE YOURSELF, you would lose weight and TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. THAT IS SELFLOVE! I only gained the weight when I didnt care about myself and was depressed. I hate when woman say "I love being a large woman" THAT IS A LIE!!! LOL If you are medically unable to lose weight or have an underlying issue, that is different. If you are big bone, short, tall, etc love yourself, but NO EXCUSE for being OBESE! Body Positivity slogan should read....LOVE YOURSELF ENOUGHHHH TO GET HEALTHY! Ok, im done with my rant! LOL
Glad someone said it cause this is the exact issue I've had with the body positivity movement. No one should be okay with being morbidly obese.
Thank you so much for speaking out about the serious double standards here. I really don't understand how pretty much the entire internet is obsessed with how unhealthy restrictive EDs are, but rarely do they talk about the much more common opposite end of the spectrum!!
Love this and your message as always, Miles!
It does upset me that the fat acceptance movement has really moved away from the core message. As someone who's been overweight, was way underweight and now found a healthy medium, I really feel unless you're super overweight, you don't get a say.
For fat people, I'm not fat enough. Skinny people, I'm now not skinny enough. But I feel great in my skin, and what about the girls with a bit of chonk who likes to work out and tell me I shouldn't get a say? When I was skinnier, but went to buy some clothes for my elderly grandmother at a Penningtons, I had a supremely RUDE cashier telling me I wasn't fat enough to shop there.
I like looking at good looking people on magazines and tv, who doesn't? I don't always want super skinny fashion models, or full mode cast members for my 600 pound life speaking for me. I want those with some muscle, a bit of cellulite or the girl who after a breakup has a week in bed eating poorly. Real life peeps, where you at?
The one thing I do slightly disagree with is that for men, the "comfort" of being overweight is the "dad bod". There were some articles where they said women were asked and "preferred" the dad bod.
When Tess Holiday says about "preference" - even on dating apps I prefer to want to chat with people with a healthy lifestyle. Oh, we can do something physical and you don't DIE? Sweet. No? Oh damn, now I'm a hater.
9:49 The audacity these skinny shamers have, as if it's not body shaming just as badly or even worse. Stressing out people who already deal with food intolerances, allergies, burn out, IBS or other things that are only worsening with stress is just pure evil. And seems that 90% of these body shamers are women projecting their own untreated ED's.
Thank you for saying this finally the truth!! we all get hated for having this opinion but it’s fact obese is not healthy
As a person who's lost almost 400lbs, there's nothing good about being fat or obese. It's unhealthy and miserable. At one point I was just existing not living, both my parents passed before I even reached my mid 20s. Gaining my health has given me my life back. I've never felt so good, never felt this happy and I'm able to experience life the way I want to. You can never convince me that being obese/fat is a good thing. These processed foods and sugars are an addiction.
You’re awesome. We need more people like you-people who haven’t abandoned LOGIC yet.
Thank you for always speaking your truth
(recovering anorexic)
Hitting the nail on head when you say how these people buy into modern consumer appearances but as soon as it requires effort it’s a hard no
It’s crazy to see how much energy, research and debates are being wasted on defending an objectively deadly lifestyle while instead it could all be directed at the source of the problem “why is it easier for people to be unhealthy than healthy today and how can we change that”. Our food environment is so bad that 3/4th of any random supermarket is made of ultra sugary and processed food, but im supposed to believe that the bad people are the ones begging you to take care of yourself and watch what you eat? Of course as a society we should always strive towards a world without discrimination, no one should ever have to feel inferior because of their ethnicity, sex, physical appearance or anything of the sort BUT this process should never happen at the expense of people’s health
absolutely!! I agree with you x
I've suffered from body acne for years, and I have many dark acne scars and when I saw this body positivity movement starting, I really thought I would start seeing more people with acne and normalizing it. But no. Its still viewed as gross and not normalized. Someone like myself who is a healthy weight but with acne would not be accepted by "body positivity". By the way love this
Miles,
Thank you for speaking up. I'm not quite as brave given the past hate i have received. Have never liked the " health at every size" movement, I feel if I had bought into it i would've died. I've always been overweight and in my 20's yes i had no health issues. However by 32 i started having serious issues. At my highest i weighed in at nearly 300lbs ( embarrassing), i have since lost 105lbs and reversed all my health concerns. Still got a ways to go but I have more energy and mobility now which allows me to be a better caregiver for my elderly mother and more productive with my business. as a grown women i can honestly say being that large is NEVER healthy. When you're young your body can get away with it a bit but you're never functioning at your "best". The message they are spreading is downright dangerous.
Me and my husband have talked about this a lot. He has a great body. Very fit, toned, abs, etc. Despite that he constantly receives negative remarks on his appearance like "damn dont you eat?" "You need to eat a cheeseburger" and many more. The sad part is that he has always had a negative self-image and wanted to gain more weight. Every time someone says something like that to him it really hurts his feelings. And it infuriates me. The main reason being is because 99% of the time it is coming from an overweight or obese woman. The other 1% is from obese men. Like I said he's not scrawny at all which there is nothing wrong with but he's very fit. We grew very differently. I grew up in a city in Florida he grew up in the country north Carolina. When I was growing up most people were of average weight. My dad was a boxer who was also very fit. People here tend to be more overweight and unhealthy. I have never experienced a healthy person being body shamed until I saw it happen to him. Personally I think overweight people who bash someone who is healthy or has a normal BMI are really unhappy with themselves. I think that they want that health and vitality that they see in them and that's why they make negative remarks. No one who is truly happy with and loves themselves wants to bring another person down. It's all a persona.
I also have mainly been skinny shamed since over 3 decades by other girls and women who project their own issues. All of them always had several untreated Eating Disorders, not obese cuz it's not so common in mid Europe just normal weight but unhappy with not being slim. Men who do it are an exception, but both have in common being always complete losers in life and so envious. It's infuriating where they get the audacity to make up lies about someone else and unsolicited comments. It's truly shocking how shallow, toxic and flatbrained too many women and even teenage girls are.
YES! Thank you for speaking with logic and common sense. It's too bad both of those things have become so rare.
I am 52 and I can't stand this world anymore! It's just going bonkers 🤯😵💫🤬🫤
It’s easier to join a movement when it justifies your bad behavior and enables you. The lack of personal responsibility and real self love is a huge issue. If people truly loved themselves, they’d eat and move their bodies like they do
I just want to give you a big thanks for posting a video about this :) we live in a world today that sadly promotes it’s okay to have low healthy standards and it could confuse people sometimes, it confused me for a bit as well, thank you for the big reminder, please make more videos like this :)
I work in an xray department and unfortunately all equipment has weight limits! Its horrible being unable to do a CT scan on a patient for a stroke or someone in a major trauma because the mechanism of the bed wont work due to the weight. Even on normal xrays being obese can massively impact the quality of the images and so affects the patients treatment and outcome. It also gives patients a higher radiation dose as extra exposure is needed to see through the extra tissue!
Healthy is not being obese. We must continue to promote healthy lifestyles with good duet and exercise while not passing judgment on those working towards those goals who are not there or struggle to get healthy. If they are trying thats all you can ask for..but people promoting its ok to stay obese and eat crap everyday( moderation with treats totally fine) is just wrong and we are lying to ourselves. We need to support those who are obese to help them get healthier and not be content staying that way.
The "it would need to be a big house" - part got me😭😂
You are so right. No one is talking about men and their struggles. So unfair. Love this video.
It worries me what this country will be like in the future. If you look at pictures from 30+ years ago, obesity was not common. Now its more uncommon to see a slim person.
I went to Spain for a weekend last month and I think I saw one overweight person, they have such healthier lifestyles and diets to the UK.
It’s madness that people are in such denial about health here 🤦🏻♀️
Thank you for spitting straight facts. There are not enough people with common sense speaking up on all the crazy things going on in the world. Always refreshing watching your videos.
thank you! ❤️ means a lot, I won’t ever bend the truth for no one 😉
Agreed!! Although I will say in the men vs women discussion, I do think women are still unfortunately held to a higher standard in terms of being in shape. We've come a long way in the women's rights movement but are still often commodified. 'Dad bod' is the new sexy but 'mom bod' is gross despite having physically endured pregnancy, birth and postpartum (or just in general, female hormones go through so so much throughout each month and it can really take a toll). The rise in normalising obesity is really scary and I legit agree with every point you made.
Ask most women, they don’t want a guy with a ‘dad bod’ - because ultimately, being in shape (whether you’re male or female) is attractive because it implies discipline, hard work, and self love in its highest form aka looking after your health. What miles is trying to say in this video is not that both men and women aren’t held to unrealistic standards, but
that more often than not the people at the forefront of the body positivity movement are women who are celebrated for being overweight. Men who are fat are seen as losers and women who are fat are seen as ‘brave’ ‘confident’ ‘beautiful’ and ‘not conforming to society’s standards’
yeah i agree dad bod is more of a joke. but also agree women are judged more on bodies/looks especially as we get older!
YESSSSS 👏👏👏Keep the truth coming. It is so frustrating how accepted it has become to bask in the victim/poor me mentality. The fact that this toxic mentality and subsequent low health standards is 'in trend' and somewhat encouraged while people who exercise regularly and care what they put in their body are deemed 'obsessive' and 'restrictive' is wild to me. The human race is getting scarier every day lol
Just love this Miles…thank you for your honest and informed thoughts…so important for us all…you are so appreciated and loved😊💕
Thank you 🤍
First, welcome back! We missed you
Second, I couldn’t agree more with everything you said, not just how staying overweight is a risk for your health, but more in general how staying THERE, the concept of stagnation.. that’s bad. That’s knowing something is bad for you but telling yourself stories and do nothing to change it.
I am fat and even I am over the positivity movement and how non-inclusive it is. I think they are deluding themselves.
People who failed their diets and feel bad about it, but don't want to try harder, find creative ways to try to feel better about themselves and that's all this is.
Good for you, Miles and thank you for using your platform to speak out about obesity. Have you seen the U.S. obesity charts by age? They drop drastically at age 80. Why? Because you can't live and be obese. But so so many health problems arrive before that.
These have to be my favourite videos from Miles, just spitting out exactly what he’s thinking, I love it, it’s so refreshing 😆👌❤️
I deeply respect you not “walking on eggshells”, Miles… and so much more of that is needed, no matter what the topic may be.
And while I very much agree with you on so many points, I do think there perhaps needs to be more awareness around how actually harmful & deadly anorexia can be. Yes of course being obese comes with a whole set of potential co-morbidities and likely takes years off of one’s life… being severely underweight is a far more immediate threat and will kill one much sooner; it’s the number one cause of mortality under “mental health”. I know you never implied this wasn’t the case and I appreciated that you touched upon how both extremes can be harmful & dangerous… just wanted to flesh out this point a little bit.
How refreshing to hear the facts. This world has gone insane. Thanks for always keeping it real. 💯
I completely agree! I’m morbidly obese and I struggle with the easiest things. But I know I am unhealthy. For the last couple of months I am finally working on me and me relationship with food and how I see myself. And actually exercising 🤯 I was never taught what was healthy just constantly taunted even from my mom that I was fat. But literally my parents were the ones buying the foods that made me fat. Then would call me lazy worthless and fat. It has taken a long time to see myself different. I have so many health problems bc I have been fat my whole life. Im trying to change that but it hard. I have friends that are fat too and are raising their children to be the same and I get so mad at them bc they don’t understand that bc they are raising their kids that way their children may not out live then. It breaks my heart bc I wouldn’t wish all the problems I have one my worst enemy. Thank you for saying something. It’s not acceptable. I believe you should learn to love yourself and accept where you are but not promote obesity! On a side note I am now 333lbs down from 375. And it’s not just from eating WFPB ie just potatoes and broccoli 🙄 I am vegan but not that kind 😂 Miles I love you and love following you. Your sarcasm and sense of him out are 👌
I appreciate your take and it is such a breath of fresh air to hear someone else speak the TRUTH and confirm that reality does exist
always 👊🏼❤️
When I was getting heavy I had to sit myself down & accept that I was big but I still was lovable which helped me stop comfort eating as often
im a first responder (trying to recover from AN btw) & i can confirm obesity is on the rise… i lift loads of patients every day & my back hurts 😭
I get constantly criticised for being lean... (saying I look unhealthy)
Yet I run marathons and fuel an active life
I'm currently trying to lose weight and it's really difficult to talk about it with others. I'm trying to go slow (1 kg per month) and I'm also trying to implement permanent life style changes, especially more exercise. I was slightly overweight by BMI standards when I begun and am now on the way to my comfort weight that I had before the pandemic. I'm kind of hiding what I'm doing, although the changes are already visible and people have definitely noticed. I have a lot of people with eating disorders around me and it's really difficult for me, because I feel like I'm a walking trigger to them. Some of my friends who know what I'm doing and are without eating disorders are worried about me being too restrictive and possibly developing an eating disorder. I was criticised for being overweight and I am now criticised for restricting and losing weight. It's honestly exhausting, because I constantly have to pause my weight loss so other people don't see what exactly I'm doing. Even the people who don't have eating disorders around me are being influenced by me and constantly try to find out my weight and the amount of calories I eat, because they also want to lose weight now, which is stressing me out. I researched weight loss a lot and tried to make it as healthy as possible but also doable at the same time (honestly if I go any slower I don't think I will be able to continue, because I will lose motivation). People trying to copy what I'm doing and comparing themselves to me is really stressful, because no matter how many times I tell them that their numbers are in no way comparable to my numbers they feel the need to match mine. Like people who exercise regularly and have lots of muscles start thinking they are eating too much, because they need more calories than me and I can't make them understand that I am a potato that previously basically never exercised and has zero muscles. Also my entire family needs very little food for some reason at at this point I think our genetics are to blame. So a few people around me have started crash diets that seem way to quick and unsustainable to me, because of me. Like a friend recently told me she started losing weight now too and is down 3 kg in 1 week and proceeded to be stressed out by the fact that she ate more calories than I do. I really don't want to give everyone around me an unhealthy relationship with food, but just seeing me lose weight is enough for healthy fit people around me to start questioning themselves. It is incredibly stressful and I basically only have one person I feel like I can talk to about this safely, because she isn't influenced by my behaviour at all and supports my approach.
I think a huge part of the reason why this entire topic has become so difficult is because weight loss is incredibly difficult, especially if you are trying to do it in a healthy and sustainable way. There are so many bad practices advertised online for weight loss and people around me do the craziest diets to be "healthy" when in reality what their doing oftentimes is unbalanced, unhealthy and unsustainable.
I understand why bigger people don't want to be told to lose weight and don't want to be made to feel ashamed for their body. It really doesn't help, because it makes you feel really bad about yourself and gives you a negative mindset that leads to a restrict and binge cycle in my experience.
Positive sustainable long-term change is only possible if you love yourself and are willing to invest time and effort into your body to make it healthier. I was only able to start trying to be healthy once I removed myself from all the people that kept on shaming me for my weight.
At the same time people really shouldn't delude themselves into thinking that being obese or overweight are healthy things, because at the end of the day you really do feel better if you are at a healthy weight, exercise regularly and eat healthy.
I feel like the well is so poisoned when it comes to this topic that any kind of discussion about it turns into a mess. What is definitely missing is good advice for weight loss that is healthy and sustainable and actually sounds doable. Weight loss advice that is healthy and supported by science often makes you feel like it's impossible to lose weight and to keep it off long-term. I have read many articles by scientists with the bottom line being that diets don't work, nothing really works, you are going to gain the weight back anyways so don't even bother trying. On the other hand you have a whole industry of diet products that suck and are unhealthy and promote crash diets (lose 10 kg in 1 week bullshit) that prey on the desperation of people. And then you have a lot of people constantly calling out the unhealthy diet advise and now no one knows how to do weight loss in a healthy and sustainable way anymore, because everything is apparently unhealthy and an eating disorder or will fail anyways. As a person who has no background in science and nutrition I am just left to try and figure this out on my own. It just makes you feel defeated.
Add to this the incredible pressure on women to look a certain way and things really spiral out of control. Women get taught early on that our appearance is our value and our goal in life should be to find a man that wants to marry us and that is never ever going to happen if we aren't thin. As women we are laser focused on every single thing that does not fit the beauty standard on our body. We talk about hip dips (the majority of women have them stop turning it into a problem, instagram is lying to you), bellies that are not flat (guys the uterus needs to go somewhere stop acting like it's too much body fat when it's literally our anatomy), thigh gaps (please stop) etc. It's misogyny. I can't speak for men, but the reason why men are featured less in this discussion is in my opinion because men's value isn't purely defined by their appearance in the eyes of society. I have not seen men's bodies discussed in the same way as women's bodies have been. There is way less laser focus on specific body parts and shapes. That doesn't mean that men don't get criticised for being overweight and that they can't feel bad about their body and appearance, it just means, that it doesn't affect your societal value as much. So losing weight also feels like you are catering to society's misogynistic opinions on women and that's a whole new can of worms to unpack.
So yeah, this topic is a mine field and I am really frustrated with it.
tl;dr: this topic has become so toxic, because weight loss is difficult.
I liked this video 5 minutes in. Thank you for speaking out about this ridiculous movement.
I think a lot of people getting caught up in this thinking are young. Sure, maybe being obese in your 20s doesn’t affect you that much. What about in your 30s, 40s, 50s? When you wanna have kids or do have them. It gets more difficult to make big lifestyle changes and lose weight as you get older.
Missed you Miles
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thank you for commenting on this! I grew up with this double standard- I was underweight in highschool: some complimented me on my slim figure but a lot bashed me and I never understood how that was complemented acceptable but mentioning big or fat or chubby was extreme taboo and would get defended by everyone.
I'm not saying it was wrong that they were treated with upmost respect, I just wished that I'd have gotten the same treatment. Which is why I'm grateful that you adress these struggles as well, they don't get talked about often enough
If fat people were defended or treated with respect - they wouldn't feel the need to start a ""body positive" movemen lol
I've read a few posts - I too resonate with the thoughts of those suffering/suffered from anorexia. I too am a 'visible' anorexic and wear my disease for all to see. I remember when I first signed up to MFP (My Fitness Pal) I disclosed that I was struggling with various foods, etc., and wanted to know if others were in the same boat. My account was quickly 'flagged' and my account was deleted. I eventually got back into the site (I like tracking etc.,) but never post anything about my personal situation. PREACH Miles...PREACH!!💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
You just nailed it: it's shameful and unacceptable to be anorexic, but to pack on 600 lbs eating donuts is freedom and positivity lol. I fully understand the danger of only valuing yourself once you're thin/losing weight.. but whoa. This is the other end of the spectrum
Only part way thru but have to say thank you! I am a mom of 2 and an ultra runner. When I am at a heavy training load I lose weight. The amount of times I have been attacked, told I look sick, that I am skinny enough and should stop running, that “I look anorexic” it’s so horribly frustrating! (Especially because I am still strong and a healthy
BMI and healthy amount of body fat)
I feel this 100%! I'm also a competitive runner and I have PTSD; both impact my weight in that I'm visibly skinny. I've been told all these same things, even by strangers who have yelled at me out their car windows: "EAT SOMETHING!" These are always the people driving places 2 blocks away instead of walking and eating fast food at the wheel.
I think we all need to stop talking about other people's bodies, TBH. Whether someone it "too fat" or "too skinny" it's really none of our business (maybe unless you are a loved one to that person and are genuinely concerned about their health, but even then, I'd tread carefully.). And toward people we don't even really know? Just shut up and be a friend. Not a judge. A friend.
@@kates7277 I hear you! Appreciate your reply and that I am by far not the only one! Happy running and wish you joy and success in your training and races
@@stephaniewaskoenig1387 🏃♀️💙
100% agree with everything in this video! Thank you for doing a video on this! I feel like many people dont talk about this or talk about it enough 👏
Agree with you 100% imagine the human heart is the size of a fist and how it’s fighting to keep these people alive. I could go on and on. Great video Miles ❤
100% !! thank you 🫶🏼
You are right. And obviously you have been affected by the state of society and the collective energy that many still get swept up in. I experienced severe underweight from stress …and grew up with body issues feeling overweight unnecessarily. Distorted body image then . It’s a very unconscious state.
Now more aware… this all Miles… is the surfacing of human darkness. Greed. Vanity. Over consuming and the control of industry on people. We see it. It’s a time for these things to come out… it is the darkness that isn’t trying to hide. It’s obviously proud of itself. I transmute it by accepting its there… and as you have done point it out… and live in loving kindness. Work on myself. Sad part is it affecting health and people’s livelihood. And lessens the number of somewhat normal people twho hold disciplined valuest.
My teacher said… “Don’t let the suckers drag you down.” Take care. I appreciate you.
I think the deeper issue is the popularity of the victim mindset and the fatpositivity community is one of the best examples. It's so much easier blaming everyone else for your condition than accepting reality and changing your lifestyle. I think there are deeper issues, mainly a lack of love, trauma, etc. I sometimes have phases of binge-eating and never once do I do it when I'm happy but always when I'm stressed/depressed and find food to be the only comfort I've got left. Those people need help and I hope one day they're willing to accept it before it's too late. The worst thing is that younger generations are dragged into this whole mess. We raise children who will have no idea what is healthy and what not, and food education is already almost non-existent.
100% agree, I don’t feel it’s even compassionate or caring/loving to the person to not be honest with them when they’re at that state and weight and could potentially die.
You will take Twitter by storm. I can’t wait 🔥
I think the extreme from body positivity came from the fashion industry and mainstream media/hollywood pushing underweight women as the norm. Being 10lbs overweight (per BMI) can be considered clinically obese, so there is a very thin line. I would have like to see you talk about the other extreme too, where some women are afraid to eat over 1000 calories in fear of gaining weight. Or detox teas that promote EDs. Definitely extremes to both sides but you seem to have a vendetta against fat women 😅
I don't know how it is in the states, where obese people are the majority. But in Germany obese people are discriminated. They are being verbally and physically assaulted. I can only imagine how miserable one must feel being assaulted just for existing in their body. And that definitely doesn't help with getting healthy. But confidence and learning to love yourself no matter how your body looks does. I agree that the body positivity movement should include all bodies. It is important for everybody to be accepted the way they are.
Every movement has some people who twist the meaning of the whole thing, but we shouldn't lose sight of what the body positivity movement was supposed to be, a way for everyone to feel comfortable in their body.
The trouble is that in the UK (and of course the US) being overweight or obese is more common than being a healthy BMI (i.e., it is normal to be fat), so men who are a healthy weight are sometimes called skinny, underweight and malnourished by overweight or obese people (ironically, including men on statins, etc.). This is true for my brother who is teased by overweight/obese work colleges for his healthy weight. Of course, in most non-western countries (e.g., much of Asia) this wouldn't be an issue because in such countries a healthy BMI is not considered unhealthy.
THERE ARE OBJECTIVE TRUTHS. Period
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