This is an excellent breakdown of Ingram as a player, though I'd wish you put in a few things about his defense and maybe how he upped his game in the play-ins and playoffs last year and currently over their last 8 game stretch. This is important as his efficiency has shot up immensely, his decisionmaking has tightened and his overall production has increased, while his turnovers are decreased. He's averaging 30 points on 50-40-90 splits (comfortably over that actually) over the last 8 games, with 8.5 assists and 6 rebounds. Even his defense has been better, as is the team's defense. Thanks for making this, I hope you don't mind the added info.
As a Pels fan my favorite version of him is playing Point and being more like a long guard. He can enable his teammates on an incredibly high level, the only thing in his and Z’s way have been injuries
the thing is he never stop to get better, maybe it’s not that many like in his early lakers time, from season to season, but the tendency of him getting better at the and of the season it’s a good thing in my opinion, because he is smart and can realise what he can do better
and as always it’s never that perfect, i think he is super talented, super creative and hard working guy, but something about him is to old school, he is like Melo in NY Kniks, iso iso iso iso, but Ingram got passing and of ball movement, but he never got that opportunity since ball always in his hands
@@SinLuX2man shut up he not like melo in New York melo didn’t have the passing skills or the above the rim ability y’all always wanna put 3 level skilled scorers in a box he literally gave u a video on how versatile he is
@@SinLuX2 Ingram is only playing a lot of iso if they really need a bucket, or at the end of the shotclock. I think he is slightly better than Melo as a scorer, as he can comfortably shoot over defenders, or hit fallaways like he's the second coming of Kobe. However he is also a top level playmaker and a better defender. Having his size, workethic and basketball IQ, he has improved every season and still is. Melo is a gifted player and a huge scoring machine, but he does not hold a candle to Ingram.
He is the #1 option on the team, the only time he wasn't, was when he was was injured and Zion took over. A team with either of them is good enough to make the playoffs, as long as the rest of the team is healthy. With both of them healthy, they are very hard to stop, not to mention TM3 did make another huge jump last year, he will probably be even better in the upcoming season.
@@PiracyAgreement His strength I feel is no longer an issue, unless you want a player that is made of steel like Kawhi or a young Lebron. He is a great finisher through contact and I think he improved on that aspect quite a lot over the last 2 seasons. I can get the stamina thing, he seems to use a lot of energy when he's on the court. He is never coasting through plays, like some other very good offensive players tend to do. It is rare that I see him on the bench and not really need the rest. Maybe it will improve, maybe it will keep that way. Lastly, I'm not at all fussed about athleticism. It will make sure he will keep being able to play his game into way after his prime. Some of the best players in the league aren't very athletic. (Jokic, Luka) His game is so complete and impactful without it and it is not something he is going to improve on anyway.
I use 1-through-5 system to evaluate players passing ability (where 1 is a tunnel vision passer & 5 is unique floor general able to check position of all 5 players). Ingram seems borderline 3-4 which is quite good for a player he used to be. Nice breakdown, your channel is a gem!
Idc what no one says he’s An amazing player one of my favorites to watch play he’s just different his play making is elite his midrange is dangerous he uses his height very well even his attack on the basket is amazing
Personally during his 1st 3 years, I thought he had the potential to have the best traits of the 3 best forwards at the time. The scoring of KD, Passing of Lebron, and Kawhi's defense. Right now I think he's not in his prime yet which is gonna be scary
I think he is a little behind KD as a pure shooter and quite close to LeBron in playmaking and much behind Kawhi as a defender. (especially if we are talking about a healhty Kawhi) However, the combination of all of those factors makes for a really versatile and intriguing player that is unique in the league. LeBron definitely worked on his threepointshooting, but he still isn't a true shooter like Ingram is that can shoot off the dribble from anywhere on the court, KD is an okay playmaker but can't make instant reads and pinpoint accuracy passes and Kawhi isn't much better than KD in that aspect, nor is he as versatile as a shooter, he is just superefficient from his spots and hard to bump off his shot. From what we've seen so far in the 2 games this year, Ingram has been used in a different way. His shot selection has been better and that is the plan moving forward. If most of his shots can come at the rim (where he is excellent) or from the threepoint line (where he has been excellent in the past at volume), Ingram is going to unlock as a player more adapted to today's NBA and a better fit next to Zion.
@@pinobluevogel6458 Injuries just hindered his rise, just one healthy season and he will break out for sure. He's a pure scorer but has the mindset of a student. From what I've seen, he really wants to improve more and more
@@johnpaulgonzalez9016 Great points. People seem to forget about BI and then he slowly drifts back into the general player rankings, until he starts to play again consistantly and they have to give him his dues. At least on the floor you see the massive respect he gets, drawing double teams against most teams, sometimes triple teams. This creates a lot of possiblities for the Pelicans to have open shots, just like with Zion when he runs into a wall of players.
@@pinobluevogel6458 exactly, he'll never be as great of an outside shooter as durant lets get that out of the way, BUT he's definitely a threat in 3 dimensions, let's not forget he was initially a slashing scorer rather than a shooter. Defensively he's starting to grasp patterns and schemes and he definitely isn't lazy on the defensive end. Just needs to get healthy.
@@johnpaulgonzalez9016 Great points. I don't think Durant is specifically a long range shooter, he is more a midrange specialist that can also shoot threes at a high level. Unlike some guys that focus on threepointers mostly like JJ Redick or Kyle Korver.
I mean yes you are on point about Kingrams game, but how would the Knicks ever trade for him/why would the Pels give him up? They never even considered trading him for Durant last year
His playstyle is becoming scarily similar to KD but just a tad shorter. KD even said Brandon is the most similar young player in the league to himself in an interview during media day.
@@pradayou5405 For sure the best wing, though I wouldn't fault anyone for taking Lebron over him. He has more of a consistant history and more experience for sure. I just like the threat of Ingram much more, Lebron is insane in transition or when he has a runway, but Ingram is a much more balanced scorer, that increases the value of his playmaking as he's doubled and tripled more often.
They got PG for you, not exactly the same but a really good player nonetheless. I would say PG is a slightly less versatile player, but not much behind Ingram as a scorer and a more capable defender. What he lacks is the top notch playmaking, but with running plays through Embiid and Maxey, I don't think the Sixers need that from him.
Maybe it's time for an update? I watch this footage and see quite a bit worse version of Ingram. Especially considering how they plan to use them in the current season, it might be a good thing to have. He was great in the opening game, and more used as a scorer and less like a playmaker.
Ingram been better than LeBron for 2 years he missed more games than him had no Zion still carried rookies to the playoffs while LeBron got excuses but d riden for his stats 😂
That is a pretty hot take, but I like it. I'm not as high anymore on Lebron either, but he tends to surprise you always when you start to underestimate him ... everytime. Then again, Ingram's rise at this time is surprising to a lot of people also. (except for most pelican fans)
I oray they dknt waste this mans talent he xan be top 10 easily. Needs zion to play or trade zion and build around trey herb bi and get some elite 3 and D guys
Tatum has been a more consistant long range shooter, especially when he's open, but he doesn't handle defenders very well, or contact, or pressure. He also isn't a great decisionmaker. However, if you count his defense, he still is a top NBA player for sure, he can guard almost anyone really well.
Ingram in Celtics would be a chip, Celtics doesn't have a playmaker, tatum and brown are Turnover prones the reason the warriors beat them last season because they lack playmaking
@@rollspikegaming7459 Pretty sure he would be good in the Celtics team, but he is having a great time in New Orleans. The family style closeness on that team is absolutely more his thing. On the last Kings game, he was pretty high turnover rate too, which is unlike how well he is playing lately. However, I think it has way more to do with how well the Kings defended him and a few miscommunications with his teammates mixed in there. It is insane how much attention he draws and still manages to function, at the very least as an effective playmaker. The only other player I see doing that is Luka.
@@pinobluevogel6458 BI won't be defended well if he had reliable teammates, but sadly dude is the only threat on offense. BI fan facilitate if he have Jaylen Brown instead of CJ, he'll make you pay.
The most ethical bucket in the league.
This is an excellent breakdown of Ingram as a player, though I'd wish you put in a few things about his defense and maybe how he upped his game in the play-ins and playoffs last year and currently over their last 8 game stretch.
This is important as his efficiency has shot up immensely, his decisionmaking has tightened and his overall production has increased, while his turnovers are decreased. He's averaging 30 points on 50-40-90 splits (comfortably over that actually) over the last 8 games, with 8.5 assists and 6 rebounds. Even his defense has been better, as is the team's defense.
Thanks for making this, I hope you don't mind the added info.
Ingram is a master of the game of basketball & he’s only 25!
Great point, he is really knowlegdable and skilled at this age. Very studious, watches a ton of film and a true gymrat.
He’s got a lot to work on
Only 25? I had no idea. I thought he was older.
@@cmac7384yea his beard makes him look at older
As a Pels fan my favorite version of him is playing Point and being more like a long guard. He can enable his teammates on an incredibly high level, the only thing in his and Z’s way have been injuries
exactly they stay healthy with the emergence of TMIII they’re gonna be tough to get out in 7 games
He's a beast.
the thing is he never stop to get better, maybe it’s not that many like in his early lakers time, from season to season, but the tendency of him getting better at the and of the season it’s a good thing in my opinion, because he is smart and can realise what he can do better
and as always it’s never that perfect, i think he is super talented, super creative and hard working guy, but something about him is to old school, he is like Melo in NY Kniks, iso iso iso iso, but Ingram got passing and of ball movement, but he never got that opportunity since ball always in his hands
@@SinLuX2man shut up he not like melo in New York melo didn’t have the passing skills or the above the rim ability y’all always wanna put 3 level skilled scorers in a box he literally gave u a video on how versatile he is
@@SinLuX2 Ingram is only playing a lot of iso if they really need a bucket, or at the end of the shotclock. I think he is slightly better than Melo as a scorer, as he can comfortably shoot over defenders, or hit fallaways like he's the second coming of Kobe. However he is also a top level playmaker and a better defender. Having his size, workethic and basketball IQ, he has improved every season and still is. Melo is a gifted player and a huge scoring machine, but he does not hold a candle to Ingram.
By far the most underrated player in the league, great video man.
I’m confused. How is Ingram not a number 1 option? If this man had shooters around him he would put up mvp numbers
Same thing I say. He’s putting up numbers with limited players around him. Only thing holding back is aggressiveness and 3pt attempts
He literally led a Team into the Playoffs this #2 tag BI got is Kinda Ridiculous lol
He is the #1 option on the team, the only time he wasn't, was when he was was injured and Zion took over. A team with either of them is good enough to make the playoffs, as long as the rest of the team is healthy. With both of them healthy, they are very hard to stop, not to mention TM3 did make another huge jump last year, he will probably be even better in the upcoming season.
His stamina is limited. Also, that lack of strength and elite athleticism.
@@PiracyAgreement His strength I feel is no longer an issue, unless you want a player that is made of steel like Kawhi or a young Lebron. He is a great finisher through contact and I think he improved on that aspect quite a lot over the last 2 seasons.
I can get the stamina thing, he seems to use a lot of energy when he's on the court. He is never coasting through plays, like some other very good offensive players tend to do. It is rare that I see him on the bench and not really need the rest.
Maybe it will improve, maybe it will keep that way.
Lastly, I'm not at all fussed about athleticism. It will make sure he will keep being able to play his game into way after his prime. Some of the best players in the league aren't very athletic. (Jokic, Luka) His game is so complete and impactful without it and it is not something he is going to improve on anyway.
Fantastic video. BI one of the most underrated stars in this game.
Imagine Brandon Ingram FULLY HEALTHY his whole PRIME 💪🔥💪
I use 1-through-5 system to evaluate players passing ability (where 1 is a tunnel vision passer & 5 is unique floor general able to check position of all 5 players). Ingram seems borderline 3-4 which is quite good for a player he used to be.
Nice breakdown, your channel is a gem!
Interesting thought/analysis of passers. Can you give a breakdown of 2,3,4 what they'll entail?
Idc what no one says he’s An amazing player one of my favorites to watch play he’s just different his play making is elite his midrange is dangerous he uses his height very well even his attack on the basket is amazing
Personally during his 1st 3 years, I thought he had the potential to have the best traits of the 3 best forwards at the time. The scoring of KD, Passing of Lebron, and Kawhi's defense. Right now I think he's not in his prime yet which is gonna be scary
I think he is a little behind KD as a pure shooter and quite close to LeBron in playmaking and much behind Kawhi as a defender. (especially if we are talking about a healhty Kawhi)
However, the combination of all of those factors makes for a really versatile and intriguing player that is unique in the league.
LeBron definitely worked on his threepointshooting, but he still isn't a true shooter like Ingram is that can shoot off the dribble from anywhere on the court, KD is an okay playmaker but can't make instant reads and pinpoint accuracy passes and Kawhi isn't much better than KD in that aspect, nor is he as versatile as a shooter, he is just superefficient from his spots and hard to bump off his shot.
From what we've seen so far in the 2 games this year, Ingram has been used in a different way. His shot selection has been better and that is the plan moving forward. If most of his shots can come at the rim (where he is excellent) or from the threepoint line (where he has been excellent in the past at volume), Ingram is going to unlock as a player more adapted to today's NBA and a better fit next to Zion.
@@pinobluevogel6458 Injuries just hindered his rise, just one healthy season and he will break out for sure. He's a pure scorer but has the mindset of a student. From what I've seen, he really wants to improve more and more
@@johnpaulgonzalez9016 Great points. People seem to forget about BI and then he slowly drifts back into the general player rankings, until he starts to play again consistantly and they have to give him his dues.
At least on the floor you see the massive respect he gets, drawing double teams against most teams, sometimes triple teams. This creates a lot of possiblities for the Pelicans to have open shots, just like with Zion when he runs into a wall of players.
@@pinobluevogel6458 exactly, he'll never be as great of an outside shooter as durant lets get that out of the way, BUT he's definitely a threat in 3 dimensions, let's not forget he was initially a slashing scorer rather than a shooter. Defensively he's starting to grasp patterns and schemes and he definitely isn't lazy on the defensive end. Just needs to get healthy.
@@johnpaulgonzalez9016 Great points. I don't think Durant is specifically a long range shooter, he is more a midrange specialist that can also shoot threes at a high level. Unlike some guys that focus on threepointers mostly like JJ Redick or Kyle Korver.
Beautiful video
Appreciate it!
Plus, you know good and damn well Brandon Ingram’s smoking that fire ass zaza before each and every game.
Brandon Ingram is the most unselfish elite scorer ive ever seen. Takes what defense gives him. I'm hoping my knicks can land him
I mean yes you are on point about Kingrams game, but how would the Knicks ever trade for him/why would the Pels give him up? They never even considered trading him for Durant last year
great video he has been on one to finish the season off
Was with you 100% until... the last thirty or so seconds. Ingram is not a number 2 option. He should be your focal point.
Agreed, though with Zion healthy it doesn't matter much who of them scores. Whoever is open or has room to make a play.
This is strange but he reminds me of a taller elongated Michael Jordan… like he uses similar moves.
you must know about BI´s daily routine getting baked af watching 96,97 Jordan highlights
Ingram is the number 1 option! Not number 2
His playstyle is becoming scarily similar to KD but just a tad shorter. KD even said Brandon is the most similar young player in the league to himself in an interview during media day.
I agree with that
Ingram is a way better defender tho
B.i game closer to kobe. The way he use that jab step to create space and shoot mid j.
Ehh he kinda built like kd, but his game is like kobes.
Plays like Kobe needs to work on his body more though
Some people say he´s great and some people hate him. I love watching him playing. (my other heroes are Pippen and KD).
what range would you have him in as an overall playmaker?
He’s actually a better play maker than his numbers show. If ingram was given control of full pG he would avg at least 8+ assist
@@shun8733 He's averaging that now over their last stretch of games, 8.5 assist of their last 8.
To me he's the best playmaking SF behind Bron
@@pradayou5405 For sure the best wing, though I wouldn't fault anyone for taking Lebron over him. He has more of a consistant history and more experience for sure.
I just like the threat of Ingram much more, Lebron is insane in transition or when he has a runway, but Ingram is a much more balanced scorer, that increases the value of his playmaking as he's doubled and tripled more often.
AMAZING VIEDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🎉
B.I games reminds me of kobe.
Hope my Sixers get him this off season. Exactly what we need. Morey wake up!!!!
They got PG for you, not exactly the same but a really good player nonetheless. I would say PG is a slightly less versatile player, but not much behind Ingram as a scorer and a more capable defender. What he lacks is the top notch playmaking, but with running plays through Embiid and Maxey, I don't think the Sixers need that from him.
Quick question 11 Wade or 20 AD & why? (Best Bron teammate as of 1yr peaks)
I think 11 Wade is the better player, but AD’s the better player next to LeBron if that makes sense.
Maybe it's time for an update? I watch this footage and see quite a bit worse version of Ingram. Especially considering how they plan to use them in the current season, it might be a good thing to have. He was great in the opening game, and more used as a scorer and less like a playmaker.
top 3 player in the league
Ingram been better than LeBron for 2 years he missed more games than him had no Zion still carried rookies to the playoffs while LeBron got excuses but d riden for his stats 😂
That is a pretty hot take, but I like it. I'm not as high anymore on Lebron either, but he tends to surprise you always when you start to underestimate him ... everytime. Then again, Ingram's rise at this time is surprising to a lot of people also. (except for most pelican fans)
Future Laker man
He's great still upset lebron blew my Lakers up imagine how good they could have been
I oray they dknt waste this mans talent he xan be top 10 easily. Needs zion to play or trade zion and build around trey herb bi and get some elite 3 and D guys
BI is🥉SF in league rn
🥇:👑
🥈:KD
only players better no player
in their 20’s is better at SF rn
Ingram>Tatum Tatum's just been on better teams
How many teams?
Tatum has been a more consistant long range shooter, especially when he's open, but he doesn't handle defenders very well, or contact, or pressure. He also isn't a great decisionmaker. However, if you count his defense, he still is a top NBA player for sure, he can guard almost anyone really well.
Ingram in Celtics would be a chip, Celtics doesn't have a playmaker, tatum and brown are Turnover prones the reason the warriors beat them last season because they lack playmaking
@@rollspikegaming7459 Pretty sure he would be good in the Celtics team, but he is having a great time in New Orleans. The family style closeness on that team is absolutely more his thing.
On the last Kings game, he was pretty high turnover rate too, which is unlike how well he is playing lately. However, I think it has way more to do with how well the Kings defended him and a few miscommunications with his teammates mixed in there. It is insane how much attention he draws and still manages to function, at the very least as an effective playmaker. The only other player I see doing that is Luka.
@@pinobluevogel6458 BI won't be defended well if he had reliable teammates, but sadly dude is the only threat on offense. BI fan facilitate if he have Jaylen Brown instead of CJ, he'll make you pay.
Jaylen Brown your next video Hoop Venue 🙏🙏🙏
lebron is the best playmaking wing
Not anymore, though he is still a top 20 player for sure, possibly top 10 if fully healthy.
@@pinobluevogel6458 ill pretend u didnt just say that
he actually a smaller Dirk
could name about 10 better playmaking wings
He’s in the top 10 himself wym
Go on
tatum bron middleton pg giannis(if u classify him as one) butler siakam and maybe kd
@@Cersiba21 none of them have higher assist numbers than him soooo
@@jmuneybeatz5721 bro thinks assist numbers determines makes u a great playmaker
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Should’ve went to Philly 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️