Pacquio was a destroyer..!!! 😂😂Mayweather beat him unanimously…and everyone said pac was mysteriously hurt, to old, and Mayweather waited to long.. even tho Floyd was the older fighter 😂😂
@ Usyk beat a muscle bound AJ, got stopped 🛑 with a body shot by Dubois, didn’t make the count. And beat a basket case, depressed 😔, former drug addicted Tyson fury. Those are the facts
David Haye defeated Nikolai Valuev for the WBA title. Dude was an undefeated champ 7ft tall and around 340lbs. David was at a 100 plus pound disadvantage.
Tyson Fury was dropped by Neven Pajkic, dropped hard by former cruiser Steve Cunningham who wasn’t the best at cruiserweight, Wilder 4X’s, Ngannou who had zero wins as a pro fighter and Usyk. Fury arguably lost to journeyman John McDermott-most thought he lost. The 1st Wilder fight was controversial as hell which many thought he lost. A lot of people even thought he lost to Ngannou also. I personally thought Fury looked fantastic vs limited slow moving fighters like Wilder and Whyte. He struggled badly vs fighters the size of Ali. He can contend with the slower limited fighters, but fighters of yesteryear would clean his clock IMO without mentioning Ali. I’ll take a prime Ray Mercer to beat him.
Wilder fought fury who outweighed him by 40 lbs and everyone said it’s heavyweight boxing. Now usyk beats fury and the first ting I hear is the weight difference 😂
There's a difference between having all time great skills/style vs having an all time great resume. Usyk could make a 50/50 fight with anyone in history, and probably beat a fair amount of the legends. But resume wise, his body of work is only about 8 fights at heavy, and some of those were rematches. He might very well best someone like Holyfield in the ring, but Holyfield will always have the more impressive legacy. At least at HW. Two things can be true at the same time.
D block has sold out like tha boxing voice. They’re trying to spin it right now how to make Devin look good it’s so obvious. They’re clearly bought. If you agree give this a like 👍. 💯.
Moses Itauma didn’t get prospect of the year because he’s #6 in the wbo.. he’s a Contender. That’s like giving Xander Zayas or Charles conwell prospect of the year lol
All time great from two fights is nuts. The precedent has been set. You ned a list of names of great opposition not just a couple names. Also these conversations are weighted by era. Usyk doesnt fight in a good enough era to even be considered.
Fury 2x, joshua 2x, dubois, breidis, gassiev, bellew, hunter, huck. He is absolutely an all time great and has the best resume in boxing currently other than Canelo
It’s the fact he beat the two or three best in the division with a huge size disadvantage, AFTER clearing out the cruiserweight division. He is one of three fighters in history to be completely undisputed in two weight classes, and the only one to do it giving up that much weight. The only great fighter that Terence Crawford has fought at welter is Errol… does that make Crawford also not an all time great?
There's levels there is Hall Of Fame, there is Great and there is All Time Great Usyk right now is Great he has more to do to become All time Great. Example Duran established himself as Great for his run at 135 but beating Leanard made him all time great then moving up and beating more champs that were bigger only added to his legacy.
@TerrellPayne-my1jm The fact that Duran was able to bounce back from such an embarrassing loss to achieve more greatness in higher weight classes only adds to his legacy. Its called overcoming adversity.
@ so why is everyone laughing at, ridiculing, and talking crazy about Devin Haney..? Kid lost 1 fight.. and actually finished the fight 🤷🏾♂️. Duran quit!! Imagine if mayweather had quit.. Andre ward had quit… Crawford had quit!! Duran quit..period. You can’t erase that. 🤣🤣🤣
Tim is a contradicting fool. He says fury is hyperthetically the best of all time. Usyk beats him twice and now usyk isnt and ATG. Just to confirm a ATG isnt as high an acolade as best of all time. This means tims views are flawed and his opinon drastically decreases credability. Olympic gold medalist, cruiser undisputed, heavy undisputed, fought everyone away from home, always b side and destroys everyone. He has a far better record at cruiser than holyfield. It is only due to his age that he hasnt fought many heavyweights. But he has beaten the best and his amateur career is unrivaled. Why is it so hard for american people to understand that hes an atg. What else does he have to do......
Marciano beat up ali sparring for the computer fight .ali should,nt of pissed him off. Ask Lou Duva he was there but i don't think he,s allowed to tell the truth.he dropped ali with a body punch and ali could,nt move.
Fury was an all time great according to tim .usyk beats him and suddenly usyk not a great
Fury is an all-time Good fighter
Pacquio was a destroyer..!!! 😂😂Mayweather beat him unanimously…and everyone said pac was mysteriously hurt, to old, and Mayweather waited to long.. even tho Floyd was the older fighter 😂😂
Fury the guy who virtually lost to Ngganou
Boxing fans can’t unsee/unhear it!!!! Tim dropped the ball and tripped over it with this Usyk comment!!!!!
@ Usyk beat a muscle bound AJ, got stopped 🛑 with a body shot by Dubois, didn’t make the count. And beat a basket case, depressed 😔, former drug addicted Tyson fury. Those are the facts
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Why do yall fools not coubt what Usyk did at Cruiserweight
If usyk is not an all time great then nobody is in this era or the last
@@sam-nw3zl Well no one said that klitchko was an all time great. No one said this of AJ or Wilder.
David Haye defeated Nikolai Valuev for the WBA title. Dude was an undefeated champ 7ft tall and around 340lbs. David was at a 100 plus pound disadvantage.
Are you joking? VAluev punching bag who lost to old Evander.
@, Evander lost the fight bro. Please do just a lil research before posting????? How was dude a punching bag when David beat him he was undefeated.
@@mansoor9907 Compare Tyson Fury and Valuev is just embarrassing.
Tyson Fury was dropped by Neven Pajkic, dropped hard by former cruiser Steve Cunningham who wasn’t the best at cruiserweight, Wilder 4X’s, Ngannou who had zero wins as a pro fighter and Usyk.
Fury arguably lost to journeyman John McDermott-most thought he lost. The 1st Wilder fight was controversial as hell which many thought he lost. A lot of people even thought he lost to Ngannou also. I personally thought Fury looked fantastic vs limited slow moving fighters like Wilder and Whyte. He struggled badly vs fighters the size of Ali. He can contend with the slower limited fighters, but fighters of yesteryear would clean his clock IMO without mentioning Ali. I’ll take a prime Ray Mercer to beat him.
Wilder fought fury who outweighed him by 40 lbs and everyone said it’s heavyweight boxing. Now usyk beats fury and the first ting I hear is the weight difference 😂
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There's a difference between having all time great skills/style vs having an all time great resume.
Usyk could make a 50/50 fight with anyone in history, and probably beat a fair amount of the legends. But resume wise, his body of work is only about 8 fights at heavy, and some of those were rematches. He might very well best someone like Holyfield in the ring, but Holyfield will always have the more impressive legacy. At least at HW.
Two things can be true at the same time.
I haven't think about that but he's right Parker resume is way better than Wilder so basically he's the 3 best of this generation.
I dont think any.of the heavyweights of this era are "all time greats"... its better than the Klitchko era but not much better.
@MrAugustBlack but klit is an ATG, so that debunks your comment lol
Usyk is a atg, but not a atg heavyweight
What’s the discord?
D block has sold out like tha boxing voice. They’re trying to spin it right now how to make Devin look good it’s so obvious. They’re clearly bought. If you agree give this a like 👍. 💯.
Moses Itauma didn’t get prospect of the year because he’s #6 in the wbo.. he’s a Contender. That’s like giving Xander Zayas or Charles conwell prospect of the year lol
what about the body shot from Dubois??? cheated the hell out of that guy
😂😂😂😂dubois had 7 rounds to did it again, and what happened - ko by the jab 😅
That second intro bit the 1st one w little too hard
All time great from two fights is nuts. The precedent has been set. You ned a list of names of great opposition not just a couple names. Also these conversations are weighted by era. Usyk doesnt fight in a good enough era to even be considered.
Fury 2x, joshua 2x, dubois, breidis, gassiev, bellew, hunter, huck. He is absolutely an all time great and has the best resume in boxing currently other than Canelo
Nope
Hes an ATG from being undisputed at Cruiser and Heavyweight, stop acting stupid
u don't know boxing
It’s the fact he beat the two or three best in the division with a huge size disadvantage, AFTER clearing out the cruiserweight division. He is one of three fighters in history to be completely undisputed in two weight classes, and the only one to do it giving up that much weight.
The only great fighter that Terence Crawford has fought at welter is Errol… does that make Crawford also not an all time great?
Top 10-12 HW for sure.
“Pre fury Wilder wouldve knocked out Usyk” Lord have mercy boxing fans be weird
There's levels there is Hall Of Fame, there is Great and there is All Time Great Usyk right now is Great he has more to do to become All time Great. Example Duran established himself as Great for his run at 135 but beating Leanard made him all time great then moving up and beating more champs that were bigger only added to his legacy.
What more can he do? He can’t move up no more he beat everyone he can beat. He an all timer
@blacksector4034 Clean up the division overcome some odds. He's almost there though
Duran also quit 😮
@TerrellPayne-my1jm The fact that Duran was able to bounce back from such an embarrassing loss to achieve more greatness in higher weight classes only adds to his legacy. Its called overcoming adversity.
@ so why is everyone laughing at, ridiculing, and talking crazy about Devin Haney..? Kid lost 1 fight.. and actually finished the fight 🤷🏾♂️. Duran quit!! Imagine if mayweather had quit.. Andre ward had quit… Crawford had quit!! Duran quit..period. You can’t erase that. 🤣🤣🤣
Wilder is not the number 3
Tim is a contradicting fool. He says fury is hyperthetically the best of all time. Usyk beats him twice and now usyk isnt and ATG. Just to confirm a ATG isnt as high an acolade as best of all time. This means tims views are flawed and his opinon drastically decreases credability.
Olympic gold medalist, cruiser undisputed, heavy undisputed, fought everyone away from home, always b side and destroys everyone. He has a far better record at cruiser than holyfield. It is only due to his age that he hasnt fought many heavyweights. But he has beaten the best and his amateur career is unrivaled. Why is it so hard for american people to understand that hes an atg. What else does he have to do......
Marciano beat up ali sparring for the computer fight .ali should,nt of pissed him off. Ask Lou Duva he was there but i don't think he,s allowed to tell the truth.he dropped ali with a body punch and ali could,nt move.