are moss poles and wood planks the same?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2023
- Although planks and moss achieve similar results, they way they grow is quite different. I hope you enjoy this video!
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I enjoy these plank videos. It makes me think a wooden picket fence outside is just crying out to have a different climber on each vertical plank.
A fence full of tropicals!
@@EverythingPlants only if the fence is able to be moved indoors in winter 😅.
I did that once. Had a piece of picket fence i had to cut off for a job so I dismantled the pickets and put them back on only scaled down and sank it into a wide planter
This was probably the best video on planks I have ever seen. Most of them leave out crucial “how” and “why” questions, and I am pleased to hear you say that you can just bury the plank in the soil, because that is what made most sense to me, but a few people warned against it because of rot. Something I haven’t seen anyone address yet is how it works with an irregular piece of wood. I have a nearly endless supply of interesting-looking weathered and aged branches (not driftwood, but the might as well be), that I suspect will do beautifully for some of my plants, but the fact that no one seeems to be doing this makes me nervous. I know how to clean them to avoid bringing bugs or other pests into the house, so I’m going to be trying them with a few plants.
Thanks Becky! I've had my planks in for quite awhile now and no rot. I've placed the planks on the outside of the pot before and its difficult to attach them especially if it's terracotta. I'm not worried about rot.
I have seen some people use sticks and branches.....for me it's just a preference thing as I like the planks.
@@EverythingPlants yeah, planks are a cleaner look, for sure! I am going to use some, but I am also a fan of using what I already have for free, so the branches are a good option for me. I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one trying it.
Anything it can climb. I like the natural stick look myself. Just depends on the stick!
Omg I literally just asked this question in my plant group and everyone was against using branches because they are dry and doesn’t provide good moisture to the aerial roots. So I’ve been afraid to try. And I was also concerned whether the branches will rot in the soil.
All untreated wood will rot .
That Marble Queen is a show stopper!! Just gorgeous!!
I know, right?!?!
I'm liking planks a lot these days. I bought a couple of "dead" plants at a nursery because they were on some planks that had natural bark on one side. Threw away the plants and repurposed the planks. I also found a sort of niche woodworking store here that has a bunch of exotic wood planks. I just use Google to look up their rot resistance index compared to cedar and if they are close, then I am ok with them. They look pretty cool too. Not very long, but some of them are really pretty!
That's awesome Kyra. I love the look of the natural wood.
cork bark ?
Thanks so much for this video. You answered all of my questions. Also, I very much appreciate your no nonsense approach. It's not exactly easy to find someone that just gets right to the point and stays there. Definitely going to subscribe.
Hey Heather! Thanks so much for subscribing....I try and make content that I'd like to watch and learn from as well. I also get frustrated when you don't get to the topic of the video until it's like 5 minutes in... It's pretty frustrating
Quick tip - I use push pins on the ends of cut strips of Velcro that way the aerial root and node are in direct contact with the plank. Results are snug and secured but reusable and cheap!
My concern would be extending the plant. This would look so nice inside if you had one tall enough to reach the ceiling.
Thank you for all the detailed info. I will be sorting through the scrap wood pile for some planks.
That's all I used too 🤪
WOW! Your marble queen is gorgeous! Please keep us updated as she grows with the larger pot. As always, your video is very useful and for me, very timely. A friend cut up some planks for me and I was worried about getting my plants potted properly, but you’ve addressed all my concerns. Plus, packing tape… who’d a thunk it?!!!🪴🪴
Good luck S Douglas and the packing tape idea was actually given to me from another viewer saying that it adheres better to the wood and it provides stronger contact
It's so interesting the variation in development between individual plants. I started a Cebu Blue from a miniscule cutting (only one leaf, 1.2" long and 0.5" wide, single node) and even though it's shorter than yours is, mine already has leaves bigger than my hand and multiple fenestrations. (its growing on a random stick i found outside, and i never water the tethering roots)
Hello and thanks for messaging. This is very interesting and perhaps due to the difference in our environment. Right now in Canada, where I am, our ambient humidity is fairly low. I add a humidifier to boast it indoors. What type of conditions do you have for your plants?
@@EverythingPlants I don't really baby them. theyre in front of a wide SE exposure window with good light, nothing supplemental. Humidity is moderate, probably about the same as most of Canada.
I will say that I dont ever get the tethering roots wet. I try to simulate how it'd be in nature climbing up an upright tree trunk, so it would rarely ever get wet. I could be wrong but my theory is that wet tethering roots keep them from adequately stimulating maturity. Yes the added roots in the moss pole further enhance the rate of growth and make propagating the mature end easier. However in nature there are no mosspoles. For the most part active feeding/drinking(soil) roots would only ever exist on the ground. Once the plant starts climbing something significant (like a large tree trunk) those roots that tether it would rarely, if ever, be touched by any water unless the tree was dead or at an angle. So my theory is that keeping the tethering roots dry gives the signal for the vine to mature faster even though they cant support the plant with water or nutrients
tl;dr, I think mosspoles make growth faster at the cost of slowing maturation, while dry structures (planks, sticks) cause more rapid maturation at the expense of slower growth. But that's just been my personal experience.
Perfect timing. I’m debating between the two. You have so much info that I have to rewind sometimes to catch everything. I’d love to see a video on how you extend a plank. I’m also curious if there’s a way to get a pothos to sprout a branch sideways and add /expand a plank horizontally rather than vertically. I appreciate your experiments and not having to do them. Didn’t know about using the size of the aerial roots to judge the plant. Keep them coming and thx so much
Hey Chris. I have yet to come up with a plank extension other then just screwing one board to another haha. I will try it out when it comes time.
Now for the branching part....once it is time to chop the top and propagate the remain stem will push out growth from the lower nodes (sometimes in multiple areas) you could then grow them horizontal
Thanks so much for this excellent video. I have access to planks but never used them because of the fear of rotting. I've had 2 plants on moss poles made from coco fiber; but during warm weather, when the plants were outdoors, the squirrels tore the fibers off for nesting material. I'm going to try planks! Thanks again!
Wow! Thank you for explaining and showing everything so clearly, and I can't wait to get started!
You are so welcome!
The plant shower is on my list to built. Thanks for this idea. 💐 And i wanna say i am using finger plaster self-adhesive to get them on the plank. Its cheap, not to harsh for the plant and easy to handle.
I need to try the planks! That Cebu Blue is gorgeous. I may try that with my Marble Queen that's just getting started. Love those big leaves.
You should!
Thank you for your detailed sharing, I find it so helpful for beginners like me. Hope to see more of your vblogs again
Hey James. There will be more!
Thanks for making this video . Seeing you put your plants on wood planks inspired me to do the same. In my opinion I find it way less maintenance than a moss pole
They are pretty low maintenance thats for sure, but not all have attached to the planks for me.....trial and error!
Ohhh that cebu blue is perfection🤩
I love that idea for the plastic moss pole. My poles in my cabinet aren’t too bad, but the ones in my house dry out every day I swear. I can never keep up with keeping them moist! You are definitely making me want to try the plank one day. Those large leaves are impressive!
The ones that I have on a moss pole also dry out like within a day so I can't keep them moist either. Any sort of pothos syngonium have done really well on planks for me so if you have any of those varieties then definitely give it a try. It is actually quite satisfying seeing the leave size up
@@EverythingPlants I’m on the hunt for a nice syngonium albo. Maybe if I can find one I will try the plank with it! Thanks for the info 😁
Do you just spray the pole or do you water it with a bottle from the top?
Jeff you are so knowledgeable . I enjoy and learn a lot from you and your videos. Ty ty ty for all you do. Have a wonderful day 😊
So nice of you....thanks for the support Ida!
thank you for being so detail and step by step.
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching!
Awesome tips on growing plants on planks, I will definitely try it.
Thanks and good luck!!!
Good morning!! Wow I love the plank idea, room for more plants 😉
Not sure I like the packing tape, but I do see it’s purpose!
Have a great day!
Any tape, velcro and ties will do just fine
So helpful! Thank you!!! Just got my first Philodendron and I’m thinking of putting a cutting on a plank at some point. Also love the Pothos on planks and I have about 14 of those 😂
very helpful and informative video! I've alwas wondered how to get plank supported vining plants to look so neat, and I love the tape method. I also appreciate how you showed how to set up the planks in various situations. Wish i could love the video instead of just like!
I needed this video. I will try it this weekend. Thank you. 💚💚💚
You got this!
Yes, definitely very informative and helpful. Thank you.
Your pothos is gorgeous!
Thanks ildiko!
Thank you so much for doing this video it answered all of my questions.
Glad it was helpful!
I just love your videos, I learn something every time I watch!
Glad you like them!
Loved the video. You always give so many tips on how to do this@! I presently have 2 cebu blue’s on planks, as well as a Baltic blue. Hopefully they start growing bigger soon.
Oh wow...that is awesome. Keep me posted with how they do
I really enjoyed this video and I am going to try plank with my Marble Queen as well I hope it will be as amazing and beautiful as yours. Thanks for sharing again.
Good luck!!
I enjoy how plank looks but I always go for moss poles so I can propagate it easier by just separating the poles 😅
That is definitely a perk of the moss pole easy propagation
Thank you for sharing beautiful and amazing plant lovely collection as always
Thanks Jillian!
I've seen Creeping Jenny or the like grown on small plants at the nursery but hadn't thought to grow others. I'll give it a go
Brilliant video..use a plank!! Who knew? I'll try it...thanks for sharing..in a relaxed authentic way. Love from the UK. Xx
💖💖 Your Marble Queen is GORGEOUS 🤩😍🤩!!! Pretty soon you will need a plank to extend your Plant Shower 😁💞.
I know! Haha
Thank you for the video! I noticed that on the wood planks, aerial roots don't really grow into them like on moss poles, and yet the leaves still get big anyways. How interesting.
This is how the naturally grow. They climb up trees, but don't actually grow into them.
@@EverythingPlants if they aren't attaching to the wood, then why are the leaves getting bigger?
after diving into mosspoles a little and gathering informations from alot of people like sydneyplantguy and others my idea of concept of mosspoles really fundamentally changed. a while ago i just thought it doesnt matter, you just use it so the plant has something to climb but that simply isnt the case.
a plank is just there to hold the plant so it doesnt tip over. a mosspole is a vertical extension of the pot itself. i dont even need a pot in theory, most of the roots are inside the pole. i dont need to upsize the pot all the time, i propagate the plant all the time because its rooting into it and i can just cut of established plants, i can keep chopping and expanding the poles and let them grow as much as i want.
you cant do any of that with a plank. and you dont use a mosspole just to ''hold the plant''
Watching your videos is so relaxing❤
😊 thank you
Wow to your Marble Queen! I only have one cedar board that no plant has attached to, I tried a meleno...philo....but plant did not do well.....picky anyways :) I would love to have a success with one plank! I have plenty of plants to choose to try! I do not do moss poles either...but have so many plants that could benefit...I guess one day I will have to face the music :) and start some of both! Great job!
I found that some of the fussier philodendrons don't really adhere well to the plank, but if you have a pothos or syngonium those do exceptionally well on a plank.
Thank you for another great video!! I recently put my Pothos N-Joy on a plank after watching your how to videos on the subject.
Although it was growing well, my daughter touched the vine to see if it was actually stuck to the board and the roots unattached 😔. It's ok tho, I'm going to try and use it on a different Pothos. The Njoy seems to be a bit slower of a grower compared to my Neon so I think I'll switch it up! Thanks again!!
Good luck with your planks and I don't mean to discourage you by any means, but the neon pothos is one that really didn't do well for me. It grew really slow for some reason and it never attached to the plank. But you can definitely try it....who knows...it may do wonderful for you!
@@EverythingPlants thank you for the tip! Maybe I'll use it on one of my marble queen propagations then. Or I also have a raphidefora tetrasperma cutting as well. Hmmmm, we'll see!
Great video. I just use the regular “transparent tape” from my desk dispenser… seems to work great.
Thanks. I definitely find that the tape secures the plant to the plank much better.
@@EverythingPlants I would have thought that tape would loosen over time with all the moisture.
Very helpful! Thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, but I was hoping for more of a comparison as to which one; plank or moss pole was better for the plants wellbeing.
Wednesday one is better than the other. Just depends on what you want I guess. The plank is pretty low maintenance. Not much upkeep but can still obtain larger leaves. Moss poles are good for getting larger leaves, but they're also easier to propagate when it comes time. There's a little more upkeep with watering, a moss pole than a plank. So one is not in my opinion better than the other
I will definitely try this with my Epipremnum Pinnatum :) Looks great
Nice! Keep me posted, Tim!
@@EverythingPlants will do :) the previous owner had it growing on a small pole and the leaves never got fenestrations, hopefully I can make it happen
Really awesome content as always! I'm thinking of moving a few of my plants to planks as opposed to moss poles, but mostly from financial reasons 😅
I have a few planks of wood, but I think I'll have to sand them a little to give them a rough texture, so the plants can grip easier. Right now, the surface finish on them is very smooth.
I've had some plants that didn't attach, but definitely give it a try. I've had a philo Brasil climb up my drywall without any supports at all. It did that all by itself, which was crazy
Thank you so much you really just saved my entire life 🙏🏾🙌🏾💕
How so? Did you have a struggling plant?
Everything Plants Yes! I have had so many struggles with the moss pole and wood planks method I’m also a new plant mom ☺️ but yes I’ve watched so many videos on here but this VIDEO is unmatched 🙌🏾 I love how you're here to HELP others learn about new plant tricks ☺️ and I don’t get that ” Show off LOOK AT MY PLANTS feeling from your videos just lots of humbleness 💫 and your videos are very (hands-on) which I love also because it’s really helpful for people like me that struggle with hearing loss Oh and let’s not forget about the quality of the videos and super simple which is an A+ for me so THANK YOU AGAIN!
@@ashleyshayia8087 thanks so much Ashley. I just happy to help out any way I can. I am also always learning from my experiments and trials....and I put it on TH-cam to see haha. I have learned so much over the last few years and thought I'd share a bit of that here. Thanks for watching my video and hope you stick around for more.
I’m here forever 🤣💪🏾
It would be interesting to see what these plants look like a year later. Do we have an update?
Using a plank or even a wooden stake has been a game changer in a dry climate. Moss poles dry out way to fast to be beneficial for me
Nice! What do you have on a plank?
I was wondering what one would be better a plank or a moss pole for monstera plant.
Can I attach the plants to both sides of the wood ?
Hi! Thank you so much for this!!! I've been looking for exactly this.
Question: How do you "prop and chop" once the plant outgrows the plank???
I'm halfway done making a video about this right now... I am air layering and then chopping the top
I'll watch the video. I for sure need a visual of that! @@EverythingPlants
Thank you for this video :)
I'm questioning about the use of driftwood. Have you ever tried this ? I have an idea about the root rot risk: maybe use some wax or plastic bag around the wood ? That is just an idea
I know a lot of people use drift wood! I've never had any rot issues with the wood...wax would be a great solution
Where can I buy the moss poles? I have seen poles with moss attached to it. But never seen the holders you put moss into. I really like that idea.
I have a question
Do I have to keep using tape as the plant goes up the pole or will the plant stick to the pole automatically as it goes up the pole??
I can understand using tape to start it.
Depends on the plant I guess. Any epipremnum like your basic pothos varieties do very well on planks and latch on quite easily. So you typically don't need any more tape. Philodendrons do much better with moss as the ones I've tried have not really attached to the wood. I did have a philodendron Brasil attach to my wall all by itself once.....so ya haha
How does the tape come off later, say if the plank is rotting in a year or two or if we need to give it a bigger plank?
Would you mind linking the clear orchid pots you're using?
Thanks very much for your tip
Thanks for watching!!!
Hi. Thanks for this vid. I have moss poles and you’re correct. Moss is getting more expensive. How do you expand the plant?
Once it outgrows the plank, I'll try an air layer it in place the top cutting in a new pot on a new plank to continue to grow larger leaves
@@EverythingPlants that makes sense! I’m going to try this on 1-2 plants. Thanks again
What happens when you change the wood plank? Aren't the aerial roots "anchored" in? Or they easily peel right off? I see you have a monstera deliciosa, would you recommend the moss pole or plank for it?
Hey Trevor, when the plant out grows the plank then I'm going to do an air layering method so that I can chop off the top of the plant with the largest leaves and then repotted in a new pot on a new plank so that it can continue to grow upright and grow those large leaves. Now for the monstera it doesn't necessarily need a moss pole or a plank.....really any support will do!
Is it a pain to add on when the plant reaches the top?
What do do once the plant outgrows the plank? I know you could just attach it to a taller plank, but what if you have no more height to spare?
More videos like this one pleease 🤩🤩🤩
Sounds good!
Hi! What sort of tape are you using? So curious and am going to start using planks soon! They look great!
It's just packing tape, but you can also use plant wire or Velcro
Does anywooded plank work. Love this
@everythingplants thank you for your videos, question: with the wooden plank do you find the overtime the wood rots out? I like the idea of wooden planks but I'm scared of the wood rotting inside of the pot what are your thoughts? Suggestions?
I have been using planks inside pots for over a year now and I have never had one rot.
Do tou use cedar plank? What type of wood can you use in order to avoid mold and/or rot on the wood?
Yup...cedar
I got a 3D Printed pole that you can put moss inside. I am starting to wonder - cant I just have my plant go up against the plastic and use velcro around the plant to support it? Do you think its the actual ability to hold itself upright that lets it get bigger or do you think the growth of aerial roos = growth of bigger leaves?
Oh wow this is so very different. I work in LECA....do you think the plant would respond the same? It would save me $$$$ on moss & moss poles...
Hi everyone!
First of all: Jeff, as always your videos are phenomenal! Thanks!
I just wanted to ask how many years does a plank last in the soil. Does it not rot and become unstable? I ask because I use a stick covered with coconut fibres and the wooden tip is stuck in the soil.
Eventually it will root, but I have yet to have one become unstable. Depending on the type of wood, I'm guessing it would take a couple years from the amount of watering that I do
@@EverythingPlants Thank you for your answer! Perfect and again congratulations for your channel.
Hi,Is it ok to repot plants this time of year i have 3 that need a bigger pot ,the roots are coming out of the bottom of pot? thank you,love your videos
I repot year round....never really had any issues.
@@EverythingPlants Thank you
Wow the Cebu Blue is amazing! I want to try! How small was it when you put it on the plank? Mine is small and doesn’t look too great. :/ this gives me motivation to care for it better lol
I think there is 3 seperate stems and only had about 3 leaves/nodes each....if I remember correctly haha
How do you think planks with natural bark like cedar would work? I live in western Washington State so we have a big supply .
Hi, can't we use a wooden stick to grow or get big leaves of a plant .... I really wanna try it with my n'joy ... Will it work..!?
Sure. Anything to support the plant growing vertical
GREAT INFO!!! 😊
Glad it was helpful!
I burnt the surface my pallet wood planks as they were really ugly( cheapskate version of shou sugi ban). Does anyone know if this would have hindered the root growth on to the plant? Nothing has attached. The tape fell off with the constant watering too.
It should be fine....I've had a plant attach to my drywall haha. Use the plant wire or Velcro instead of the tape.
I like the plank.❤
Thank you you’re the best
Thanks Regina!
Do you plant all your plants in orchid potting soil. Lastly, I see steam in the screen you use any special incense oil or is it just a steamer or vaporizer. Thank you
I use like a 50/50 tropical soil and orchid bark mixture. And then for the steam it is a couple humidifiers that I use to increase the humidity. I do use a fan for air circulation and limit the humidity to around 50%
Thank you
Also do you ever use leca instead of soil
Could this be done with a 1.5 inch bamboo stick?
Perhaps even two of them together?
Indoor gardening is my hobby. So it's a little strange to have planks, and I aesthetically hate the look of a moss pole.
Can you use jute wrapped around potherd
What are the best type of wood planks to use?
Cedar is apparently a good choice as it is a hardwood and resistant to rot. Honestly I use anything that I can repurpose and have used even softwood like pine with no issues.
When it comes to the planks, what do you do when the plant outgrows the plank?
I've added an extension on to it and when I want to chop it in half, I will airlayer it first
@@EverythingPlants do you just drill another board behind it?
QQQQ where do you get wooden planks from ??? amazon ?? thanks
The wood planks are repurposed. They are bed frame slats from an old set of bunk beds haha
Can I use bamboo instead of plank?
❤ I enjoyed your video
👏👏👏👏👏👏, thank you 👌👌👌👌
Welcome 😊
2:56 Plastic cable staples. Simple, stable, comes in many sizes, is fairly small, can be removed and reused, just be careful about the hammering:-D
Also I dont put the wood inside the pot. last thing i need is the wood rotting away. I have stable wooden construction and put the pots around it, it makes the repotting a bit challenging, but they have much bigger length to grow on, wonky planks also can make the pot unstable...Thats why I hate regular poles and planks. The aroid mix is simply not stable enough to keep them upront, I was tired of wonky poles. Therefore unfinished wooden furniture covered in plants:-D
Very interesting. Thank you for the suggestion!
You "I don't want the plant to go into shock"
Next video: "let me saw off half the roots the plant loves it!"
Obviously I like some more than others hahaha
what do you do when the plant outgrows its plank? :)
Chop and prop.....I have a video out today of my attempt, but I will have to rethink some things lol
What type of wood do you use for your plank?
Cedar is best but I use anything I have on hand or can reuse
The tape wont mess with the plant if i want to take off of the plant at a later time?
I haven't seen any damage or effect on the plant. Maybe don't use something like super strong gorilla tape haha
@EverythingPlants lol noted ✅️ thank you for all that you do 🫶. Helps all us that a striving to be a better plant lover. I want my plants to thrive not just survive!
What do you do when the plant outgrows the plank, besides attach another plank?
Yup....I show it in this video
th-cam.com/video/bOvt842_MTU/w-d-xo.html
@@EverythingPlants what is the width and height of your planks? I love your videos!
Doesn't taping the plant restrict upward growth?
Not as long as you don't tape the very top.... otherwise I've never had an issue
you mean my marble queen cold look like THAT?!?!?! 😮😮
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
What happens when it outgrows the plank?
Are they? Are they better? Video very informative but wish it addressed the question in the title 😔
It's more of a comparison and what best suits you. They each have their pros and cons
What kind of a wood you are using for your plants please
I've used pine and cedar. Cedar is best because it is more rot resistant, but I've never had any issues in the past.
Thank you
hello from france !! that's such a great video, ive always prefered wood planks aesthetic over sphagnum moss poles but i still haven't tried them!! what do you think about growing my billietiae on a plank? (:
It's definitely worth a try!
make sure your wood plank are high or it will look like tombstones , lol
LOL
I’m sorry I think I missed what kind of wood you can use for planks?
he uses pine wood but if you are scared of the plank rotting you can use cedar wood
he talks about it around 9:20