NASCAR North Wilkesboro 1990 Controversy

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  • @CatCrave
    @CatCrave 8 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    It's a crime that the North Wilkesboro Speedway is standing empty and dilapidated now. It looks like a ghost town. NASCAR never should have turned its back on its roots.

    • @jasonkelley1819
      @jasonkelley1819 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well, it was outdated. But the cookie cutter tracks suck.

    • @JasonTigno
      @JasonTigno 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      that is what nascar does best

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      this track was replaced by Texas and Loudon - two of the most boring tracks out there. Rockingham then was replaced by Fontana and Texas again. Then a Darlington race was taken away for Phoenix, which was decent enough.

    • @NickyD
      @NickyD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh cry a river things change its not a crime either thats not even nascar roots either

    • @balintk.9373
      @balintk.9373 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, it could be an amazing short track.

  • @austinwarne6413
    @austinwarne6413 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Anyone else think that Larry Mac looked a bit like Jon Gruden in 1990?

  • @dlwile33
    @dlwile33 10 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Obviously, North Wilkesboro needs to be purchased and every effort under the sun should be put into getting NASCAR back to N. Wilkesboro. Just Saying

    • @Beserker3737
      @Beserker3737 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I'd much rather see Wilkesboro or Rockingham than boring races like New Hampshire, Kansas, Chicago, or Kentucky...

    • @greatestbrand5191
      @greatestbrand5191 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jeffrey Foster especially rockingham for me why cant we have more roadcourses as well

    • @Probowler37
      @Probowler37 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jeffrey Foster Yes sir! Don't know about you but I would certainly love to see Eldora added to the schedule.

    • @Tie-dyed-wisdom
      @Tie-dyed-wisdom 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would love to see it go back to dirt because IMCA and World of Outlaws destroy NASCAR and it's corporate attitude.

    • @dcaseng
      @dcaseng 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd love to see it renovated, and perhaps bring Trucks and Infinity races there. However, it's simply not suited for the cup series, and it would take a ridiculous amount of money to bring it up to top series standards.
      Some things simply become outdated.

  • @brookstheump
    @brookstheump 10 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    And now Brett Bodine works for NASCAR and drives the pace car, what irony

    • @silvertone169
      @silvertone169 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      maybe nascar thought he wouldn't screw up like that

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he also designed the terrible COT

  • @SUPEREEVEEMASTER
    @SUPEREEVEEMASTER 8 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    0:19 I don't think NASCAR would ever say that today.

    • @SuperJastor1
      @SuperJastor1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      SUPEREEVEEMASTER I

    • @V10_Addict
      @V10_Addict 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a shame but you're right.

    • @DixytheGoat9
      @DixytheGoat9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even though they do and thay cant say it

  • @dazzla84_ssfc
    @dazzla84_ssfc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Honestly, you'd think by 1990 that NASCAR would have introduced mandatory electronic lap charts and scoring, most other championships were already doing this by that year

    • @Chicken_Wing91
      @Chicken_Wing91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wasn’t that it’s the fact North Wilkesboro was an aging track that hadn’t updated to the newest technology at the time

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nascar has always been slow to update stuff.

  • @tylercrouch31
    @tylercrouch31 9 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I still thought it was cool the way Bill France handled that situation despite the scoring error. He knew that this was probably going to be the only shot Bodine would ever have at winning a race.

    • @Tcottong
      @Tcottong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've never disagreed with something more in my life. Telling someone they should agree to forfeit their win because you've already won a bunch and they never have is the most ludicrous statement any fan could possibly agree with. Absolutely not a cool way to handle a situation nor a professional one. Seven years later I hope you still don't believe that.

    • @bbodinefan11
      @bbodinefan11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brett never had good equipment.

  • @hacksawjimthuggin7411
    @hacksawjimthuggin7411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    You know something is screwy when a Bodine finishes a race, let alone wins one.

    • @jmoneill3
      @jmoneill3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      An asshole from a whole family of assholes.

  • @Greg4fun
    @Greg4fun 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Here is exactly what happened. They did leave out a couple things. Brett was leading and he pitted. He went a lap, maybe 2 down. On fresher tires he was catching the leader Earnhardt. Earnhardt pitted not long after which put Brett back on lead lap when caution came out, but not the lead. But what i think upsets a lot of people is, once the caution came out, Brett pitted again. Had 4 fresh tires compared to 10 or so laps for everyone else, and was also given the first spot. So not only was he given the first spot when he should have theoretically been the last car on the lead lap, he was given the first spot WITH fresher tires.

    • @jeffwilliams2458
      @jeffwilliams2458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was never sure who was actually leading. As an Earnhardt fan I certainly acted like I knew, but you nailed it. Giving Brett 4 tires and than the lead was wild

    • @bs431980
      @bs431980 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best explanation I’ve heard👍👍

  • @ryanmurphy2588
    @ryanmurphy2588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    NASCAR, please, please, please bring North Wilkesboro back. Re pave the track, re do the grandstands, and modernize the garage area and bring this Great track back for crying out loud.

  • @hakimselistocharil2644
    @hakimselistocharil2644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who’s here after the 2022 announcement of the revival of NWS!

  • @dylanhills3244
    @dylanhills3244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not only would this end up being Brett Bodine's only career Cup Series victory, it would be Buick's final Cup Series victory. Also, Kenny Wallace, the driver who wrecked to bring out that fateful caution, was making his first ever Cup Series start.

  • @redrhino2066
    @redrhino2066 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    NASCAR is reaping what it has sown. They turned their backs on the fans and the communities that made them. What needs to happen is another sanctioning body form, return to Wilkesboro, Rockingham, Darlington for a second race, throw in a couple of Hickory dates, and couple other short tracks and then charge a reasonable ticket price. The fans would return and then NASCAR would be on the outside looking in.

    • @joshbarth9469
      @joshbarth9469 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The cars would still be an issue, and rightfully so.

    • @danielhamby9448
      @danielhamby9448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yes! I agree with coming to Hickory!! I wouldnt have to drive to Charlotte to see a race!

    • @brandondurham86
      @brandondurham86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nascar like so many companies and sports today are more concerned with being woke than doing what the fans want. They are ok with losing money to push a liberal agenda.

    • @caleykruse9852
      @caleykruse9852 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brandondurham86retard

  • @Xraxic
    @Xraxic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nascar needs more tracks/racing like this. I kept feeling like I was going to my local short track the entire time I watched this video. This is what made Nascar good.

    • @buckodonnghaile4309
      @buckodonnghaile4309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't agree more, Wilkesboro was the same length as the local track (Cayuga up in Canada) my family raced on for decades so it was always one my favorites to watch. Cayuga fell I to disrepair but has since been bought, repaved and rebuilt. It'd be nice if the same could happen to this place.

    • @RandysRacingPlace633
      @RandysRacingPlace633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buckodonnghaile4309 Looks like someone's a prophet. 😁😁😁😁😁😁🏁🏁🏁

  • @DiegoRuiz1991
    @DiegoRuiz1991 9 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    ***** What I thought after watching the whole last part of the race in another TH-cam channel:
    · Brett pits from 3rd and looses a lap
    · Dale and Darrel (1-2) pit
    · Because of track position, Brett somehow overtakes Dale and Darrel
    · Kenny crashes out
    · The pace car picks Dale even though Brett was leading a couple of cars ahead
    · CONFUSION STARTS: Brett pits under caution
    · Brett is put on the lead even though he pitted under caution
    · Darrel passes Dale and tries to attack Brett but he can't
    · Brett wins, Darrel 2nd, Dale 3rd
    *THE PROBLEM?* Brett pitted under caution, he should've been the last guy on the lead lap since nobody else on the lead lap pitted during that 15-minute-long caution

    • @davedaniel11
      @davedaniel11 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Diego Ruiz this is the most logical explanation I've seen. It makes sense that Brett doesn't really feel bad about it, seeing as he should've been leading anyway. Obviously the free set of tires helped but there's a solid chance he could've won anyway.

    • @Zoomer30
      @Zoomer30 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was a massive NASCAR effup. Probably one reason they wanted to get rid of the really short tracks. Dem dar humans can't keep track of all those dadgum cars.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zoomer30 I'm not 100% sure but I feel North Wilkesboro's lap time has always been longer than Bristol's, maybe close-ish to Martinsville's

    • @PhilipTheBigOne
      @PhilipTheBigOne 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Diego Ruiz That feels logical enough... Thank you!!!

    • @TravisMSimpson
      @TravisMSimpson 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brett pits from third and loses a lap.
      Dale and Darrell pit, Brett is back on the lead lap.
      Caution comes out and with the pit speed at 35mph, Brett beats Earnhardt and Waltrip to turn one where the pace car comes out.
      They pick up Earnhardt, They waste 16 laps for no reason before Giving the lead to Bodine who had it in the first place.
      The rule of "At the moment of caution, the field is frozen." did not exist yet.

  • @jarredwalker9919
    @jarredwalker9919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love how NASCAR's ridiculous officiating is still prevalent even today.

  • @racermac1988
    @racermac1988 14 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And this is why we now have computerized scoring... Keep in mind that computer scoring was already being used in Formula 1, as well as IndyCar... and yet NASCAR still felt that manual scoring was more efficient...

    • @bigfuckingcheese
      @bigfuckingcheese 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Michael McIntyre from 10 years ago

  • @hondarider2690
    @hondarider2690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    All through the 90's and early 2000's i followed nascar religiously never missed watching a race and attended several races when they started the chase bs i really lost interest i think its absolute bs that they take away the points cushion that a driver and team busted there asses to build all season long and earn the championship and then just go ok last handful of races everyone starts out with a clean slate then one mistake by another driver could completely screw the driver that busted his ass to gain a huge points lead at the drop of a hat. Then the car of tomorrow made it even worse and the last straw cutting the race into segments. If i'm being honest the day we lost Dale SR. is when i really started to stop watching, i watched every race the rest of the season to see the tributes the tracks did for Dale but after that i just didn't honestly have that want to watch anymore. That day was a huge blow to nascar as a whole

    • @rockhill195
      @rockhill195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. The chase really makes the 1st 2/3 of the season pointless. A team could win one of the 1st few races, then coast until the chase. Segments suck and I hate the spec cars. All is ok though; due to the sport being more "woke"......smh.

    • @E180TEKNO
      @E180TEKNO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am totally agree.
      I tried to watch nascar today but already , I don't like cars at all, these huge family sedans transform into sports I have trouble I prefer cars from the oldsmobil lumina monte carlo grand prix pontiac, I clearly miss, and then this "chase" I don't like clearly.
      even the pilots today I have a lot of trouble choosing a pilot that I like I don't know, nothing to do with the nascar of the 90s

    • @goldenshark3182
      @goldenshark3182 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re not alone, I’ve been away from NASCAR for 20 years and I’m trying to get back into it, but the playoffs just kill it for me every tine for the exact reasons you stated. Motorsports Championships are made over an entire season, not the last quarter. Jimmie Johnson did not win 7 Cup championships, he won only 3 over a full season, the other 4 were because NASCAR reset the points for “The Playoffs.” Jeff Gordon truely won 7 Cup championships over a full season and Kevin Harvick won 4, but because of “The Playoffs” they had 3 each taken away, it’s ridiculous!

  • @TheDirtysouth276
    @TheDirtysouth276 9 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    here how you fix this. throw the red flag and figure it out. not let them continue to count laps

    • @JRBrittain
      @JRBrittain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      then hundreds of fans would of left

    • @davidh1249
      @davidh1249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It would have been better for hundreds of fans to leave,and NASCAR to take the time to correct the scoring,than the alternative- A controversy to this day.You have people claiming the race was fixed,that they showed Bodine preferential treatment,etc.It is definitely a low point in NASCAR history,Imo.

    • @JRBrittain
      @JRBrittain 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not really that low, you have brian france doing drugs over here

    • @davidh1249
      @davidh1249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      JR Brittain There was a lot more controversy because of this race than Brian France being messed up on pain medication.This affected the outcome of a race and called into question the integrity of NASCAR.No one will even remember.France got popped for DWI 5 or10 years from now,much less 25 or 30.

    • @JRBrittain
      @JRBrittain 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      but they will remember the change in command that took place in NASCAR when France got fired
      more know about France's mess up than this thats for sure

  • @robertgough6250
    @robertgough6250 10 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    The day NASCAR began going downhill is (a) when North Wilkesboro Speedways closed its doors. And, then (b) the Death of Dale Earnhardt Sr. Since then, the Cup series has changed sponsors and also Points system- which has Killed the sport.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** The original Chase wasn't too bad. Just a way to keep things a bit more interesting, a bit less spread out. The problem is this elimination-based Chase, now that is damn unfair!

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** Let's go point by point...
      · Truth be told, NASCAR is not more fucked than Indycar as of now...
      · "Right-sizing" is a way to make everything feel a bit more full but I kinda like it because now you don't need to keep elbowing whoever is sitting next to you
      · Foreign markets? Yes, national series are on the decline. DTM is European-wide to say the least and even the most Japanese stuff like their drifting and Super GT are trying to go out too

    • @racefan32
      @racefan32 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robert Gough Hendrick dominance is also killing.

    • @NickyD
      @NickyD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nascar is doing just fine stop saying its dead its doing just fine without dale and his son who missed half the last season with a bogus injury

    • @calehensley4074
      @calehensley4074 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NASCAR isn’t dead. It’s better now than it’s ever been. They just cleaned up their image and made it a lot safer to compete on Sundays. There’s no crime in that. Every stage is competitive. It’s a lot better than just following the leader until the last few laps. And now the champion isn’t determined until the last race of the season, just like every other sport. With all that said, I agree they need to stick to the roots at tracks like North Wilkesboro. I would love to them return there. Take away a New Hampshire race. That’s one boring track.

  • @Tcottong
    @Tcottong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If and when Kyle Busch ties (and maybe breaks) the consecutive win record set by Richard Petty, it should be noted that without this bullshit there would already be a tie with DW and Richard.

  • @snappy452
    @snappy452 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Considering the screw job they gave to Mark Martin that year, no surprise. Perhaps one balanced out the other in their eyes for Earnhardt.

    • @deweyseymour4268
      @deweyseymour4268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      snappy452 Mark always managed to screw himself #neverwonachampionship

    • @dylanhills3244
      @dylanhills3244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@deweyseymour4268 Won more races and championships in IROC than anyone in history. I'd take an IROC championship over anything else, because you're going up against the best of the best from all different series in equal equipment.

    • @deweyseymour4268
      @deweyseymour4268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dylanhills3244 yeah you right there

    • @jcearnhardt393
      @jcearnhardt393 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mark is the biggest choker in nascar history...

  • @IcyKcominyourway
    @IcyKcominyourway 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sunday's scoring issues in Martinsville that put the race under caution for 29 laps somewhat reminded me of this. Only difference is they didn't score a driver who was on the tail end of the lead lap as being the leader of the race. For those that didn't watch this Sunday, there was a long green run that lead to green flag pit stops. A caution came out on lap 356 when Carl Edwards melted a bead in one of his tires and hit the wall. Some drivers were trapped a lap down on pit road when a majority of the front runners hasn't completed their stop. It caused a lot of mixed confusion in the tower and among teams trying to figure out if their driver was or wasn't on the lead lap. Jimmie Johnson's day was almost ruined when he stalled on the backstretch cause of a fuel pickup problem, Chad Knaus wanted to bring Jimmie to pit road even with the pits closed cause he didn't want to take a chance on Jimmie running out of fuel, but as it turns out, it was an error on Jimmie's part, as he hit the engine kill switch by accident. I guess he still pitted when the pits opened, I can't swear to it though, he restarted 4th, led the final 92 laps, and still won the race. I know NASCAR took their time to sort it out and get it right, and I'm confident that they did. I can't say as much for the 1990 North Wilkesboro Spring Race, as I'm convinced after watching and listening to this video that Darrell Waltrip was the winner that day. In spite of the scoring debacle that took place this Sunday, Jimmie Johnson went out there and earned the victory, he didn't have the dominant car for the entire race, but he had the best car when it counted the most. In contrast, I feel like the 1990 North Wilkesboro victory was somewhat handed to Brett Bodine on a silver platter.

    • @jamesgentry13
      @jamesgentry13 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      IcyKcominyourway you could say the same about Waltrip Daytona 500 win ,1989.. wink and a nod to that illegal fuel tank

    • @moparre
      @moparre 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was just the opposite they put the leader at the tail end

  • @84PatSch
    @84PatSch 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    @4:07- 4:12 when NASCAR was still NASCAR, I miss these times

    • @rogertrew
      @rogertrew 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Letting Toyota in was the final nail in the coffin.

    • @paullemke5915
      @paullemke5915 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogertrew there's no Plymouth Mercury Oldsmobile or the like to run anymore.

  • @kozippio7854
    @kozippio7854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brett won this race. Dale had a long pit stop and pitted 15 laps after Bodine. Bodine was out there for 15 laps with fresh tires before Dale pitted. Brett's stop was around 21 seconds. Dale's was around 25 seconds.

  • @jamesedgar3442
    @jamesedgar3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm listening to the Dale Jr. Dowload with Geoff Bodine as the guest. They just mentioned, in passing, the '89 wreck between Earnhardt and Rudd that gave Bodine the win. So I went to watch a replay of that. So this video shows up in my feed so I go ahead and watch it. I didn't think much of the controversy at the time, because I knew my guy Earnhardt was behind due to that slow last pit stop. And yes, Waltrip has always been a bit of a crybaby. I still don't know if NASCAR got this right or not. I do know that my guy had a fabulous year and won the championship. And the 1991 championship as well.

  • @stefanl5183
    @stefanl5183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The best thing that could happen for North Wilkesboro speedway would be take up the asphalt and turn it into a dirt track. Then schedule a couple big Lucas oil series late model races and a couple big WoO sprintcar shows. Nowadays 1/2 mile dirt tracks are becoming very rare as the dirt world seems to be moving to all 3/8 mile facilities just like Nascar seems to have a love affair with mile and a half clones. So, a dirt track this size would be unique and have appeal.

  • @ofamilyonthemove1238
    @ofamilyonthemove1238 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Miss NASCAR...REAL NASCAR!

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    happened at Las Vegas in todays NNS race after a bs debris caution

  • @NotSteveCook
    @NotSteveCook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brett Bodine pitted around Lap 305, while approximately half a lap down (10 or 11 seconds). According to Steve Waid from Winston Cup Scene, the Bernstein crew gave him a quick 4 tire change. Pit stop delta (time loss) with no pitlane speed limit would've been around 25-28 seconds (more than a lap). Fresh tires were valuable at Wilkesboro, as seen and explained in the broadcast, so Bodine was gaining several tenths of a second each lap. Waltrip and Earnhardt pit just before the Lap 320 caution for Kenny Wallace's crash. Earnhardt's stop is a little slow, and the moment before he exits the pits, Bodine passes by. For position. NASCAR sure made some bonehead calls before and after 1990, but this is a call they made correctly. You'll agree if you observe the facts from that day rather than the fact that Brett had never won in Winston Cup before or since.

  • @jonathan_tong93
    @jonathan_tong93 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most controversial race of the 20-year run of NASCAR on GMA was the 1990 First Union 400 that was aired by GMA Radio-Television Arts on April 23, 1990 at 2:30 P.M. Brett Bodine won his only NASCAR Race at North Wilkesboro Speedway, in what became Buick's last ever NASCAR Victory

  • @williambrown6347
    @williambrown6347 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Nascar wants to save itself, highly unlikely, return to this track. Run a double-header, one Sat. and one Sunday. You'd get 100,000 showing up to watch it. Nascar also needs to run VIR in Danville, VA, a superb sports car track that historic stock cars run on in Sept each year. Large speedways over a mile generally suck. I haven't been to a race in 20 years and don't intend to. Nascar screwed its historic base of fans- Southerners with Confederate heritage.

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank goodness for electronic timing and scoring that has been around since 1993, removes any chance of human error in the scoring

  • @brandonpennington1983
    @brandonpennington1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No way bodine gained a lap and a half when they all made equal pit stops, also in those days there was no lucky dog, so bodine shouldve been on the tail end, just like DW said

  • @LT1HILLINGHOE
    @LT1HILLINGHOE 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember that day well. Brett Bodine didn't win that race, it was given to him as a present from Nascar. Too bad for him that they never were in the giving mood anymore.

  • @dobermanpac1064
    @dobermanpac1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NASCAR 2022, still screwing it up!

  • @rodtaylor1316
    @rodtaylor1316 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in N. Wilkesboro, drove by the track last week, it's falling apart, such a shame.

  • @O5fan
    @O5fan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They don't make it clear whether the caution came out during pit stops or not. Classic Speed Channel not paying attention to detail.

  • @Mcfly-fg5xd
    @Mcfly-fg5xd 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Yea look at nascar now... No fans.... They did to themselves

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No fans? Lmfao!

    • @Jlastinger88
      @Jlastinger88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ryanwilson5301 yes, no fans compared to what it was before. Laugh all you want but it's a fact and you look like an idiot

    • @smartyjones7459
      @smartyjones7459 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joshua... gotta agree with you... you're spot on...

    • @JohnYenchick
      @JohnYenchick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jlastinger88 Why comment then? If you aren’t a fan stfu and watch something else. This and thousands of other videos and channels about nascar continue to get a lot of views. I am a nascar fan, so to say there are no fans is FALSE!!!

  • @Ka_Gg
    @Ka_Gg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never saw a race a N. Wilkesboro but sure would go if they brought it back.

    • @victorwright4898
      @victorwright4898 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw the spring race of the last year they ran there. I can still see Michael Andretti hitting the water barrier going into pit road.

  • @Jbobloochjr3
    @Jbobloochjr3 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    should of red flagged it til they got "their order" right instead running out green laps. Should of done same thing at Dover I think in 04 or 05 when they had same issues when Newman wrecked.

  • @lw97nilslinuswhitewaterweb15
    @lw97nilslinuswhitewaterweb15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad Brett kept that victory, as he would never fin another race

  • @brandonjc13
    @brandonjc13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been reading a lot of comments about how NASCAR has been losing fans since it has ditched the small track. What I think is happening (I don't watch a lot of the sport myself but enough to see what's happening) is that the electronic age has caught up with the sport. People watch a sport and wanna see numbers. They want to see these guys go see fast as possible. With a short track, you don't see them build up to max speed on a straightaway. It's also the networks who pick up sports that have some say in how the sport is played, and the same goes for NASCAR. (We have TV timeouts in football games that would otherwise not be there and it would make the game go by faster, for example.)

  • @1armedgal
    @1armedgal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He knows damn well he didn't win it, too.

  • @pittsky
    @pittsky 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they still raced there. Great track.

  • @edmondcamp2878
    @edmondcamp2878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No disrespect to Brett but just because you run good and have the fastest car DOES NOT mean you should have won the race. As the old saying goes the fastest car don’t always win the race. If that was the case half the victories in NASCAR would have been given to somebody who really didn’t win.

  • @nathanielhiggerson7679
    @nathanielhiggerson7679 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    NASCAR can’t get anything right. Then and definitely not now.

  • @sirnickels9979
    @sirnickels9979 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What we need is some of these recently retired drivers buying these old tracks. They can fix them up and nascar would be somewhere is the track owner was a Earnhardt

    • @penskepc2374
      @penskepc2374 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the people that seriously consider it afe woried about the novelty wearing off, yeah the first 2 years will probably be jam packed but what after that? Alot of work was done to get racing back to that track and people didn't show up.

  • @TracksideViews
    @TracksideViews 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And in 2019 NASCAR still wastes laps trying to figure out the running order

  • @DarrylTurner-fl8hi
    @DarrylTurner-fl8hi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Lumina was the coolest thing ever happened to Nascar!!

  • @robbrown6240
    @robbrown6240 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Bodine was 3rd, he short pitted and the fresher tires allowed him to gain ground before Earnhardt and Waltrip pitted so it doesn't surprise me at all that he was ahead of them at the time of caution. He was also able to drive away after the fact so I don't see what all the fuss was about. He won it, case closed.

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The problem is that his win wasn't entirely fair since there was a problem with the scoring and all the other drivers felt robbed. Also, he probably gained time on Dale and Darrel because of traffic (North Wilkesboro was a short track and track position is MUCH more important than your actual pace)

    • @asyncawaited
      @asyncawaited 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ^ This 100%.

    • @JeeperJimbo
      @JeeperJimbo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      NASCAR screwed up Bodine short pitted was passed coming off pit road making him a lap down !! When he passed Earnhardt coming off pit road that was him getting his lap back !!! This wasn't rocket science ! The camara doesn't lie !!

    • @kyusssmith5498
      @kyusssmith5498 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lap around North Wilkesboro takes about 20 seconds to lap. I would imagine that a pit stop takes about 30-40 seconds. When he pitted, Bodine was in third (or fourth) about maybe 9 seconds behind Earnhardt. So he short-pits, and Earnhardt pits a little bit after. Now, North Wilkesboro, being a short track, obviously has a lot of traffic. With those fresh tires, it makes sense that Bodine would be able to slice into the gap between him and Earnhardt - Dale Sr. pits, Bodine gets his lap back, and then passes him when Earnhardt gets back on track.
      I have to agree with Rob here. Bodine had a good car to begin with, and the time frame between the pit stops seems to check out.

    • @JeeperJimbo
      @JeeperJimbo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ok guys i was at the race I'm telling you all here's what went down my late father rooted for him ... As he came down pit road and was stopping in his pits on pit road he was passed by Earnhardt 1.Lap my dad was jumping around watching the green flag pit stop .... As he left his pit stall Earnhardt was coming to start finnish line passed him again coming off pit lane 2 laps down now .... Caught Earnhardt in about 2 laps passed him coming out of 2 Earnhardt pitted because of getting passed the speed difference was huge now as Bodine was coming down the back strech caution comes out Earnhardt was on the jack right sides they let him go with just rights Bodine passed Earnhardt coming off pit road just like in the video .... Earnhardt was pitted after start finnish line Bodine can't pass Earnhardt under caution the pace car waited for the leader Earnhardt coming off pit row Bodine should have stopped and moved behind the pace car. But didn't tryed stealing his lap back under caution and did my dad was jumping up and down there letting him by .... Woohoo .. Then NASCAR dropped the ball ... Let Bodine fly around the track then made him the leader 2 caution lap later my dad was yelling "how" he's 4th !! I ask my dad when did he pass Earnhardt ?? My dad said he didn't .. They'll move him back ... Nope they didn't his sly move under caution had the scoring so screwed up ... They lost a whole lap !! Now they make him the leader with 4 fresh tires while the others are on only rights ... The right side tires only let those guys stay with him for a few laps then he walked away from them while they did there best holding on to there cars till the finnish ... Hope i broke it down for everybody ....

  • @MarkTurner-u8v
    @MarkTurner-u8v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Carolina asphalt was hot enough to fry my King Racing Buick. Brett Bodine.

  • @KK-ex5zu
    @KK-ex5zu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least that's not possible these days with automatic timing, looping, and scoring. Pure cut case of humans fucking up and Brett Bodine his only cup series win!

  • @nascarfan88ta
    @nascarfan88ta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All DW had to do was pass the 26

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmfao! Hou didn't watch the video or you can't comprehend english. What part of Brett Bodine was wrongfully given the lead did you fail to understand?

  • @bbodinefan11
    @bbodinefan11 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bodine didn't win anymore races because of his equipment. Bernstein spent his money in drag racing. I think King racing only ever won 4 races. Brett then went on to be an owner driver because nobody wanted him because of Geoffs reputation.

  • @jesuschristislord6790
    @jesuschristislord6790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We deserved to win that race" He got the lead because of a mistake, and only held it because he had fresher tires and clean air. They should retroactively take that win back and give it to Darrel Waltrip.

  • @billygowhoop
    @billygowhoop 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scoring before modern timing systems seems like it must have been a total nightmare. Does anyone know how it used to work? Like I'd think that there would at least be a Nascar official dedicated to scoring each car. It just seems like you'd need a lot of people keeping track.

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The way it worked was that each car had a scorer, usually supplied by the team, and they usually had two per car, often using volunteers. It was haphazard and the system could be gamed and often was if you had a sharp scorer.

  • @BartSwinter
    @BartSwinter 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brett won that race...Earnhardt pitted on green right after Brett did..the caution came out a lap later..Brett was on the lead lap when everyone pitted during the yellow...They're just pissed that a Bodine won!

    • @mitchcolburn1216
      @mitchcolburn1216 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts exactly. God forbid we have a Northeast driver win in hick country.

  • @brianhenkel1886
    @brianhenkel1886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Was one of the best tracks what ruined nascar is all these big tracks like Vegas and Texas boring racing but plenty of seats that nobody sits in

  • @山田聡-t1g
    @山田聡-t1g 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use to love NASCAR. I love Richard Petty, David Pearson, Bobby Allison, Cale Yarborough, Buddy Baker, Benny Parsons, Harry Gant, Darrel Waltrip, Dale Earnhardt... I Wanna go back to 80's.

  • @gregstephens4028
    @gregstephens4028 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was at this race. Was only 11 years old so I didn't really know what was going on, just remember my old man being happy Waltrip didn't win. haha

    • @EclecticHillbilly
      @EclecticHillbilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evidently, you weren't the only one there who didn't know what was going on. lol

  • @Z64sports
    @Z64sports 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how this would have gone in the 50s before radios

  • @easyenetwork2023
    @easyenetwork2023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Actually, if they picked up Dale Sr, he should have been the winner, not Bodine or Waltrip.

  • @mynightmarexxx1000
    @mynightmarexxx1000 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    NASCAR shoulda said fuck it restart the race lol.

  • @stephenholloway6893
    @stephenholloway6893 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's the main why NASCAR went to electronic scoring system just 3 years later. Why NASCAR didn't do this sooner or before the race itself, we may never really know. However, the bottom line is that Brett Bodine won the race according to NASCAR, and they have the final word.

    • @amandaartz639
      @amandaartz639 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abominator

    • @DiegoRuiz1991
      @DiegoRuiz1991 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      3 years later is quite fucking slow...

  • @bbodinefan11
    @bbodinefan11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Darrell was that much better he could have passed him.

  • @sterlingjohnson5147
    @sterlingjohnson5147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The announcer said during the race that 6 was leader. Then the yellow waved.
    26 pitted and went 1 lap down. 3 and 6 pitted giving lead to 17. 6 beat 3 out of the pit. 17 pitted giving 6 lead. 26 was almost 1 lap down.
    Martin should have restarted 1.
    And I am not a Martin fan.

  • @mikebertolette7254
    @mikebertolette7254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was talk about Jeff Gordon buying the track

  • @neilouellette3004
    @neilouellette3004 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So from what I understand Brett Bodine was a lap down because he pitted and was laped by Dale and Waltrip who already was leading. When yellow flag came out Bodine was now on the tail end of lead lap. So when checker flag came out technically Brett Bodine was now a lap down when they moved him to the front. Bodine a week later should have turned in his win knowing this. This was Bodine's only career win which in reality he didn't. He knew he didn't win that race but kept quiet. Waltrip should have won when he beat Dale.

  • @Bloomer28
    @Bloomer28 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Darrell and Junior took one away from Neil Bonnett at Nashville, turnabout is fair play!

  • @armondealey3714
    @armondealey3714 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember this race. Man I can only imagine if this would happen in today's nascar. You fans would be in an uproar. Oh yes this race was shown in tape delay the Monday night after the race due to the NFL Draft that was on Sunday.

  • @benhampton9593
    @benhampton9593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was on pit rd that day. And that was drama. He was fast cant take that away.

  • @matthewscott135
    @matthewscott135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Running half a lap behind the leader. Make a green flag pit stop come out a lap down. Leaders stop. Coution comes out that doesn't automatically make you the leader just because you think you have a good car. It sounds like bs to me

    • @vc27r
      @vc27r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They short pitted and made up time on fresh tires for 10 laps on the leaders... plus Earnhardt had a lengthy final stop, giving Bodine the lead at the final caution.

  • @rickhayden3343
    @rickhayden3343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    before nascar turned into a politically correct entity which gave the finger to its fanbase.

  • @KBowWow75
    @KBowWow75 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Them fans. You don't see races that packed anymore and even on larger tracks.

    • @kingofrunescapepking
      @kingofrunescapepking 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Auto Club was PACKED a couple weeks ago...

    • @racefan32
      @racefan32 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ed Kell Because they took stands away, just like Charlotte and a bunch of others, where NA$CAR is losing fans, because Brian 'The Brain' France is fucking the sport up, and fans are tiered of cookie cutter tracks and Cookie cutter drivers,
      NA$CAR died when Dale Sr, died.

    • @kingofrunescapepking
      @kingofrunescapepking 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      racefan32 sorry but NASCAR didn't die with Dale Sr. NASCAR died when they tried to be like other sports

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      racefan32 they put Bruton Smith in the Hall of Fame - the man who invented the cookie cutter track and killed Rockingham, Wilkesboro and a Darlington race

    • @racefan32
      @racefan32 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *****
      I know , he doesn't belong in there.

  • @himynameisangel1
    @himynameisangel1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 2:44 is that a wide open part in the Wall??

  • @CocaColaDude
    @CocaColaDude 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kevin Harvick: That's why he's the pace car driver, because he didn't know (bleep) when he was racing.

  • @EclecticHillbilly
    @EclecticHillbilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here's the deal, whether you're actually leading or not, there's not a team ever that will say, "No we're not leading".
    As for DW, he should tell us about the time he made up laps by cutting through the pits at the Snowball Derby.

    • @ryanwilson5301
      @ryanwilson5301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The funny thing is there are plenty of drivers that are actually honest enough to say they aren't leading. Just because you would be a dirtbag doesn't mean everyone would. Fucktard

  • @folzyfantasy15
    @folzyfantasy15 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    in all such a confusing race, but you know, that would be Bodine's only win, let him celebrate it, DW won 84 and Earnhardt's the best modern era driver of all time, they all had it going on for them

  • @bs431980
    @bs431980 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved that old Trophy

  • @aricsnyder5882
    @aricsnyder5882 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now a days Brett drives the pace car... Miss Smoke racing if he was in the lead he'd always bump the pace car

  • @len-zeplin480
    @len-zeplin480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I stopped watching after 1989. The cars weren't real cars any longer. They Didn't sell V8 RWD Luminas. It became fake as Professional wrestling after 1989. (DW Won Daytona in the Tide Washing Machine Aerocoupe) The Last real Chevy on the Track.

  • @AutoRockinRacing94
    @AutoRockinRacing94 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would of have been easy if they stop the race instead of 18 laps under the yellow but it was very different!

  • @sachsgs2509
    @sachsgs2509 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To this day no one understands what happened.
    There are 100 different explanations...no clue.

  • @randomCADstuff
    @randomCADstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darrell Waltrip has always been a little bit petty. Not saying that he's not a great personality. He is however and admitted cheater. Brett deserved this win scoring error or not (quite honestly probably not knowing Darrell). Brett ought to have won at least one race; Todd as well. Todd in fact was perhaps one of the best NASCAR drivers to never win a race.

  • @Suzanne-t3l
    @Suzanne-t3l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are Jeff Hammonds eyes so big?

  • @Whogrl16
    @Whogrl16 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    When was computerized scoring first used in NASCAR?

  • @alanwilliams1160
    @alanwilliams1160 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nascar has never been good since the mid 90s Its a shame that nascar turned into what it is.

  • @JeffRogers99
    @JeffRogers99 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is kenny wallace driving a busch car in a cup race?

    • @veggieoilerfan2940
      @veggieoilerfan2940 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeff Rogers Kenny was actually driving a Winston Cup car owned by an obscure car owner named Randy Hope. Kenny also had Cox Treated Lumber as a sponsor in the Busch series at the time.

  • @fatman1288
    @fatman1288 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what shame what north wilkesboro speedway is now

  • @Siodail69
    @Siodail69 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe I'm related to bodine

  • @racecar157
    @racecar157 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    all these comments say how wilkesboro was outdated indont really understand.. what exactly did it lack? that other tracks didn't back then? sure it was small compared to like Charlotte butbnot every track has to be that "big"

  • @rumplestiltskin3814
    @rumplestiltskin3814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We deserved the win....even though we didn't win.😃😂😁
    How many times in all sports/competitive events has the ruling body awarded the win to the "deserving" team/competitor? Dan Marino and Fran Tarkington "deserved super bowls in their careers, Charles Barkley "deserved" a championship. Too bad so sad.

  • @drbenmccullough2608
    @drbenmccullough2608 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh the humanity

  • @trillrifaxegrindor4411
    @trillrifaxegrindor4411 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is when racing was awesome,riveting had personality and excitement.i haven't really watched it since the mid nineties

  • @skooby_doobie_doonkann3334
    @skooby_doobie_doonkann3334 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Larry mcreynolds was a great crew chief but he was the beneficiary as a crew chief of two wins that were fraudulent and his driver didn't win. The other being the spring of 91 Sonoma race when the win was taken away from Ricky Rudd after he bumped Davey allison

    • @gaffneyrailroading1982
      @gaffneyrailroading1982 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And oddly enough, both cars that got screwed were sponsored by Tide.

  • @redbovine
    @redbovine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wilkesboro is back racing. Not NASCAR but some other stuff!!!!

  • @drnoise
    @drnoise 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah if I was Brett I don't think I'd feel bad, either. Part of winning a race, sometimes...most times... is a luck! And luckily, he got scored further ahead than he actually was. lol. At our local speedway in 2 of our last weeks I got scored finishing a position behind. Talk about annoying. But I know I wouldn't have complained in the other direction. lol

  • @greylyncox4630
    @greylyncox4630 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in north wilkesboro

  • @AutoRockinRacing94
    @AutoRockinRacing94 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish somebody have this whole drama and I will pay attention if they cussed