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Another benefit of owning multiple bikes is that each bike comes with its own community. I first got into motorcycling mainly because I wanted a year-round hobby. I was expecting a hermit-like experience in my garage but I soon realised that when you are tinkering on a bike, you are often dependent on a global community that lives on the brand- and even model-specific forums. I still get giggles when I post my problem on a forum from Finland, and within fifteen minutes get helped by someone in Sydney and another one in Buenos Aires, And the next day, I pay it forward by helping someone in Agadir.
I’ve got a grom for going from street to street. A shadow 750 for going neighborhood to neighborhood, a vtx 1800 for going city to city, and a Goldwing for going state to state
I'm up to 11 now about my limit. 4 riders in the family. Kawasaki concours14, KTM 1290SDGT, KTM990SD, Yamaha FZ6, Yamaha FZ6R, Kawasaki Ninja 400 (newest edition), Honda CR250R (2000), Honda CR250R (2001), kawasaki KDX200 and a Yamaha Vino. Only the newer CR250 is in pieces right now everything else is ready to roll. You can only ride one at a time so as you add them insurance is only a few dollars more (even for the big bikes).
Also, do y'all not remember that episode of MTV Cribs with Fabio..? Dude had like 30+ bikes throughout a... 3ish bedroom house with a small garage. It's been many years since I've seen it. Y'all should do an episode featuring him, he's been a biker for years.
Exactly! Just decide which bikes could conceivably be described as either 'automotive artwork' or - at a push - 'conversation piece', and put them in the living room.
5 bikes is my idealgarage. 1) quick bike for street and track, 2) off road, 3) touring bike, 4-5) eye-candy / nostalgia / project bike. 1) street triple 675r (one day i'll graduate to a panigale v2 or a tuono v4) 2) honda 450r 3) some people love ADVs but I love pavement so I'll go Ninja 1000sx or VFR800 4) vulcan 650s my uncle left me when he passed away 5) always wanted a thruxton or ducati sports classic
Thanks for a great episode - from Ural to the dream garage: my kinda discussion! So a few comments: When the German army was advancing eastwards in 1941, a motorcycle factory in Kiev was packed up and moved to safety behind the Ural mountains - hence the name, and unfortunately with the war now history comes full circle… My garage: Ural Ranger - for grocery runs, off-grid moto-camping, taking the Misses plus dog for a spin HD PanAm - for (long-distance) travel RE Himalayan - to keep Dad (75+) on the road, get my son on the road, get both off-road RE Bullet - for City-commuting in bliss and happiness, nothing beats „the Helicopter“, from the kick-start onwards just a huge grin Brough Superior SS100 - for cultivating escapism, fast curvy ride-outs Bikes (urgently) „needed“: Godet Sport GT - for sheer beauty and pedigree Vincent Black Shadow - as it is the real thing RE Interceptor Scrambler conversion - probably to replace both the PanAm and Himalayan As my wife defined the binding boundary as 5 motorcycles, I have hard choices coming up…..
And even so, stuff like Triumph is made in India or Thailand and people will still call that a british bike. Japanese bikes aren't all made in Japan. So why would a Ural made in Kazakhstan not still be a Ural anyways.
I like the comment, if you going to walk from one end of the garage to the other without getting stuck you need more. My snowblower and lawn mower take up one full size motorcycles worth of space so they might have to go.
I went the other way. I went from having a road bike, dirt bike, and scrambler to replacing those with a single premium dual-sport. Yeah, it's a compromise bike when it comes to doing on/off road things, but the time, space, and money saved have been well worth it. I put more miles on a single, well-maintained bike than I used to put on all the other bikes combined.
As I am working my way through my "Budget Bucket List of Bikes" and have been for about 10 years now, I have no limit on too many bikes but I can say there is a limit to how many I personally can have running at any one time...it is 4. Since leaving college I have never owned more than 6 at a time (I flipped bikes in college). I have no interest in dirt (lost that in my teens) so all mine are street oriented with one having a minor pretence for off paved roads. Current stable is: CX650, 1997 Kawasaki Concours, F650CS, 1999 VFR800, 2006 Buel Ulysses, and 2020 Kawasaki Z400. The F650CS is being parted out, the Connie is the one I never stop tinkering with (up for an FI swap right now), the VFR is sidelined waiting on parts after hitting an elk, the Z400 was so I always had a bike that started, the CX650 is just wierd and cool, and the Uly is because I wanted a big sport tourer while waiting on parts for the VFR as it was the bike I was cross-shopping when I got the VFR. Each has their place but I could go down to two without much pain. The VFR800 and Z400 would be the two but man the Uly is growing on me! I still have a half-dowen bikes I want from the list and likely will have after used prices go back down.
I have 2 motorcycles and 2 scooters, I would agree with 3-4 being a good area to keep it in. Not too costly, but enough to keep you busy. These episodes are great to listen to during my 5 hour drive to/from site each week.
I have two bikes in the garage and I think two is perfect. They are both reliable, practical, fast, fun multi-purpose motorcycles. If one is getting any kind of maintenance or work done on it I have a back up so my short sweet summer doesn’t pass by with me not having a motorcycle to ride. If I was to own another motorcycle it would probably be BMW’s CE04 electric scooter 🛵
Great point from Zach about what to consider when buying another bike. I'm actually in that position right now, currently owning 2 Sportsers. Yeah I'm that weird guy that loves Sportsers. I currently have a 2003 883 xlh that is a decent daily rider, very lightly modified, and then I have my 88 883 to 1200 custom built rigid bobber that has the Buell XB9 top end. It's a major project bike. And I'll most likely purchase the new Nightster 975 in the next year or so. I am still weighing out the options, to be sure of what I'm buying.
Another big cost issue/con can be gear. Unless you buy one set of adv gear and try to use that on every bike you own the gear can add up pretty quick if your bikes are different enough. Motocross boots, peak/visor helmet, goggles, pressure suit/roost guard, knee/shin guards, etc. for your dirt bike and then you need a street helmet and street gear for your daily rider, leathers for the track and chaps for your cruiser. Actually, since this is a Revzilla video that probably goes in the pro column since they will be happy to sell it to you 😆. Another pro that wasn't specifically mentioned is that with multiple bikes you should always have something to ride when one of your other bikes is out of commission while you are working on it so no missed rides due to mechanical failure, etc. Some bike choices also add additional ancillary purchases that might not be obvious at first (e.g. if you live in an area that has no offroad riding you will need a trailer or a pickup and ramps to haul it somewhere you can use it).
The section about which bike your gonna take for road short road-trip, is so funny 😂 but I agree about the 890, my Kawasaki 1000A1 from ‘77 is sometimes jealousy if I take the KTM 890 for a mainly road trip. But I if want to hear some sound while driving I definitely take my Kawa with the Yosimura R/S-3 from the 80th a customer made 4-2-1 exhaust made by Pajic-R&D in the Netherlands. Whow what a great sound.
Yup, FortNine made a video about it, I remember something about the sidecar wheel being a drive wheel potentially. Just forget if it's stock or you had to add a chain, I'm leaning towards it beings a stock option.
I think in terms of categories. Although there are probably two dozen categories out there, I'm interested in a minimum of six categories: 1. middleweight touring. 2. Middleweight sporty bike. 3. Light middleweight sporty bike. 4. Middleweight dual purpose/adventure bike. 5. Light middle weight dual purpose bike. 6. Middleweight cruiser bike. Then I have bikes that are so unique that they defy their category: TW200 and CT110. Some call it a sickness, but I'm working on culling the herd. I'm currently at just over 30 bikes, after getting rid of 15. I've had about 10 bikes at a time most of my adult life. That's not including dirt bikes, and now I'm getting old enough that I'll be looking at trikes in a few years!
I’m glad Spurg mentioned twisted road. I’ve been looking at that website and riders share to rent my bike out. It’s a V-strom and I know how much you guys love the strom! Haha Maybe another podcast or a CTXP episode of the process, pros/cons, things for owners and renters to think about.
About registration, that is a thing in the Netherlands if you own a bike before 1978. Because for my Kawasaki Z1000-A1 I had to register it al the time because it had an old Dutch Plate (the little blue one) and I did not want to loos that number and the smal plate. So I had to pay for it (a little amount) for more than 10 years because it was a project … where I could not find the time for ;-). I got it up-and running 4 years ago and still enjoy that motorbike, it is still an iconic bike. I never had the need to buy something else … until I had the desire to do more on/Off Road, so I bought a year ago a KTM 890 Adventure-R. This bike has a bit of a status as the Kawasaki Z-Series had in the 70th and the 80th. So I can say I’m a happy man owning to iconic bikes 🤩.
Congrats on the engagement Spurgeon, nicely done. I have 11 bikes ranging from old vespa to goldwing, Ducati to Royal enfield and love them all. Only 1 doesn’t run (yet) but like a crazy cat lady, I’m beginning to think I might have a problem.
Finally, a new HS/LS. And, the "very enthusiastic" scooter-dude Spurge mentions at 22:24? I believe that was me. :-) (Yep, a FaceTime with Zack would've been cool, but shootin' the Shinola with Spurgeon was more than enough fun.) As far as # of bikes in the garage? If I *had* a garage, that number would likely still be one, since (1) it wouldn't be terribly large, and (2) my ride would be sharing that non-generous space with m'lady's car.
As a guy who owns a 2022 890 adv. Even with the 21" front. It's pretty good on the road. If I was going to make it a 90/10 bike I may want to drop the wheels to a 19"front 17" rear. The front gyroscopic effect is pretty strong. It really wants to stand up in the corners.
To me, you need three bikes. A long haul, high payload, 19 inch front wheel, adventure bike, under 250 kg. Any 600cc light, 17 inch front wheel, street bike, under 200 kg, naked, whatever. And a light, 21 inch front wheel, dual sport, under 140 kg. I am missing one of these three, which makes hunting for it interesting. The wheel size choices, and wet weights define it all.
I have 3 bikes and that seems to be a pretty good number for me, a VStrom, a DT175 trail bike, and a vintage Moto Guzzi for the Sunday cruise. If I were to add a 4th it would be a small bop around city bike - scooter, trail 125, or Grom etc.
The right number is the current number you have plus 1. Luckily for me I have no interest in project bikes or off road so now I only have two but I'd like one or two more. 17 R9T, 22 Monkey, two I'd add would be Streetfighter V4 and something for highway and some longer touring so a fairing (Tuono, Hayabusa, H2SX).
Glad to have you back but that was one quick break. Hope you guys got enough vaca time. How many bike is too many? Surely such a number does not exist. Bought my first bike just over a year ago and I'm looking at getting more. Any expiring registration is a money making scam from your state. Any vehicle should only have to registered once and that's when you buy it. Congrats on the upcoming nuptials Spurge! 3. Moto Guzzi Griso 8V 2. Triumph Scrambler 1200 1. Can Am Spyder F3T Knew it was Harley engine definitely had that potato, potato, potato rhythm. Lets get the flock outta here and see you in 2 weeks!
The correct equation to determine the number of bikes you should have in your garage is n+1, where 'n' is the number of motorcycles currently in the garage.
fun fact: the first bike i ever rode was a buell blast. it was my mormon friend’a dads bike, and we snuck it out of the garage after class in high school and took it around the block lol. what a weird bike, very fitting for a mormon dad.
At one time,back in the ‘90s, I had 12 motorcycles from new to old (‘60s - 80’s vintage). A Husky 250, H-D Italian 2 stroke, two Ducati singles, a Bonneville, a Benelli Sprite, Bultaco Alpina 350, etc. Also, I had two sidecar rigs, a new BMW/Ural and a KLR 65O/Velorex unit w/ a stiffened and strengthened frame & suspension w/studded tires (this was my winter-in-Michigan rig). My latest purchase was a M-G 1200 Stelvio. My opinion on this topic? I wish I had never acquired all these bikes :-( Two frame-up restorations were accomplished, but it wasn’t feasible to restore everything that my 1960’s Moto-lust had appealed to me. Sadly now, I’m down to three bikes. A 2004 XR650R w/street legal kit that I rode to Argentina from Kentucky, my BMW/Ural rig, and a M-G Stelvio 1200. Selling, but not restoring, these many bikes is a terrible regret for me. I remember them with sadness. Three is a good number unless you have tons of cash and a lot of time on your hands! I feel sorry for you young guys who grew up in the 2000’s with all the tech, but none of the soul.
So my issue is having so many that it's hard to keep them all ridden enough to stay running and not start having issues with batteries and seals leaking. Yes I keep them on tenders but still it seems like the batteries still go prematurely. I currently have 9 bikes that I make sure get ridden at least 1 good ride every week or 2.. 2 Ducati's, 2 Harley's, 2 Honda's, 2 Royal Enfield's, and last is my wife's Ryker Rally. I just got rid of 2 KTM's but loved those bikes and miss my 500EXC.
I had the same issue with the batteries and switched to lithium and have not had an issue. They can sit for at least a month and start up like it's nothin. As to the seals going...still haven't figured that one out yet...
I'm down for the practicality but the dream garage caught me by surprise... no budget considerations and no-one went for a Britten or Desmocedici just to have it in the garage! I could put up with muscling a large adventure bike through tight single trail if it meant having a piece of motorcycling art that would put a horn on a jellyfish!
Such humble dream garages. No one said something like Valentino Rossi's championship winning bike or a Britton V1000 or Burt Munro's Indian Scout. Surely, one of you had a lawn mower themed OCC Chopper on your list. Hahaha! Also, I love 👕s
Yes! I want a Ural so I could unironically do Uber passenger rides, just have to sign up for Uber using some coupe or sportscar that only has 1 passenger seat. Could do okay for drunks at 2am and good for airport rides imo.
Dream bikes, more than 3 by a bit lol 1. Wankel engine motorcycle, just for the unique rotary design and being able to kill the headlight with bike still on 2. Ural Sidecar (a more modern one) 3. KLR650 with the HDT Diesel engine, because it seems to appreciate pretty well + diesel high MPG 4. Royal Enfield Bullet - DIesel converted, because super high MPG of that diesel engine + bit of rare motorcycle history 5. KLR650 2022, for the practical daily commuter, 6gal tank, 53mpg, nice and tall seat height with good ground clearance 6. CRF300 Rally, for same reasons as the 3rd gen KLR, but even better gas mileage, but slightly less total range. Comes stock with better reliability. 7. Honda Goldwing (2020+ one) because hey, CB Radio while interstate travelling can be pretty useful + why not? 8. Super Cub 125 , 2020 model year with the red main color. Bit of mootrcycle history, but with modern parts. 9. CT125 Because it's the Cub I actually prefer for commuting use and having light fun in the bush. 10. Suzuki Burgman 650 , because it's a good scooter with a 650cc engine 11. Honda NC750 non-DCT, simply because frunk makes it a very good daily commuting motorcycle 12. Kawasaki Z125 Pro, can't forget about the Z125, it's the mechanically superior Grom (at least on paper) 13. Suzuki DR200 , because it's timeless and simple 14. Moto Guzzi V85TT , because I want a shaft drive motorcycle under 1 liter and Moto Guzzi is the only current aside from a Shadow 750. 15. Z650RS , because it looks nice, and I'd like a motorcycle reminiscent of the Z2 / 750cc bike Kawasaki used to make 16. Yamaha SR400 , because it uses a kickstart, this was put onto the list after issues with an old bike that could've done with having a kickstarter too. Really, after #9 they aren't AS high on the dreamlist for me, moreso neat novelty stuff (example: 650cc scooter, frunk, z125, old 200cc carb bike, shaft drive, GTO-esque motorcycle, and kickstart only). Runner ups: Rebel 300 for it's gas mileage, Rebel 500 for it's potential 120mph with a 16/37 sprocket setup and good interstate traveller for a single person, and Rebel 1100 if you travel with two people and/or want a fast boy stock and don't mind being limited to 100mph on a 1.1 liter bike. Non-rebel runner ups: Honda Silverwing (since it's the sensible version of the Goldwing.. which is also why Honda killed it so you either had to own a Rebel 450, CB, or a Shadow.) and also Honda ST1300 since it has a 7 gallon tank, the only new ones are made for motorcycle cops at least it seems that way on the Honda website. Shame Honda hates having bikes with 5 gal + fuel tanks.
Thinking of adding a 2nd bike to my Garage. I am 32 living in the UK and currently have an xsr700 and have been riding just under 2 years. I am after a bike to use in winter and something to tinker with and subtly modify. I am interested in a Yamaha townmate t80 or an Armstrong MT350 (a little different I know right). What would you guys choose. The townmate is cheaper, parts are easier to find and it is easier to store. But the Armstrong is more interesting, more usable at higher speeds however more expensive. Thoughts please? Love the podcast. ✌❤
How many too many?? 4 in my garage.. 03 Honda (Vespa like) scooter, 1983 XT250, 2002 HD Electroglide Classic (with something other than a stock motor) 2019 DR650,, learning the dirt after riding pavement for 48 yrs., and sliding WAY too many feet down the road. The DR was my 40th bike owned. Thanks guys for doing what you do. I've been podcasting it for two weeks and have listened to 40ish podcasts. Can you do a review on the Moto Guzzi V85TT.. please Tanks David
In Australia it costs around $700 for registration, $1000 for insurance and $40 for inspection every year. You should feel lucky. We have 8 motorcycles, it’s an expensive addiction in Australia!!… 🤪
701 Enduro set up for adventure travel and camping + 2nd gen Hayabusa for the highway-munching, or pseudo-sportbike needs. Im pretty content with these two. A Ninja 400 with a cage to work on stunts could be a nice addition, but I really do feel like my bases are covered with these two.
Great episode! I think the perfect number would be 4, even though I currently only have one. I’d go with a Goldwing (I’m only 39 but there is no better for 2up riding), a dual sport like a Honda CRF450RL, Versys 1000 (my current bike), and a forth that would be whatever I’m into at the moment, maybe something crazy like a superveloce or I like the z900RS cafe. Thanks!
My highest street legal bike total was 5 bikes. That didn't last long as I learned my multi-bike discount for insurance only covered 4 bikes. So the 5th had to have a separate policy, which had no discount. I have had 5 bikes several other times that included dirt bikes, with no insurance. As far as maintenance logs... Am I the only one that logs that stuff in the owners manual? 😄
My desired garage is a little crazy. Track Track/Race Mini Trails DS ADV Street simple Sporty 2-Up Touring Lots of overlap in that mix and plenty of bikes can do multiple of those. Some considerations can be given, but would prefer fewer compromises. 6-7 is probably where I’ll settle. Most I’ve ever had is 6, currently at 4 but will be at 5 or 6 in another couple months. Insurance puts a huge damper on the dream garage. Need a currently unavailable policy since it wouldn’t benefit the ins companies in the US, that only has comp unless in use. Track bikes and trail bikes don’t get insured for me.
Zack! What about Stark Varg? Have you guys tested or learned anything about them. I remember your skepticism from a previous episode and have not heard anything since.
I have 5... Which is simultaneously too few and too many. - Registration and insurance aren't too bad for me at my location. - Space requirements, and maintenance efforts and costs are high. - I'm currently interested in two or three more (which, if I were to actually acquire, I'd still be interested in another two or three more...) - I can only ride one at a time, so multiple are not going to get the ride time they deserve. (IMO, the biggest con).
Factory Z900 tires? Probably Dunlop Sportmax GPR300s. They are just ok. Fine for breaking in the bike, but swapping them out on my Z900RS was the best move I ever made
Hi guys, writing to you from Kyiv, Ukraine. We have a war going on here, but still I dream about a new bike. Currently I have Suzuki RF400 and considering 2 options: 1) Honda VFR 800 (about 2002 year built); 2) Suzuki Hayabusa (1 generation). Plan to use 50/50: outside the city on the highways or in the city (mostly weekends or nightly runs). What option would you think is better, considering the price is almost the same?
I went from a 5th gen Vfr800 (1998) to a 2nd gen Hayabusa. So not *quite* what you're talking about, but pretty close. The VFR is just such an incredibly well built bike. I've yet to own, or ride anything else that feels as solid as a 90's Honda. If you could only have one bike, I'd go for the VFR in a heartbike. It's fast (enough), comfortable (enough), dead reliable... Just fix the rectifier/regulator issue and you're good to go. I love my current Hayabusa, and plan to hold onto it forever. It's surprisingly comfortable, and can be ridden calmly around town-you don't *always* have to be going triple digit speeds. I'd go with the Hayabusa if you had another, smaller bike to pair it with. I use a dirtbike, but a scooter would work as well.
You all need psychiatric help I'm so happy happy right now. This is the greatest podcast in the history of the earth this particular episode is the BOMB.😂❤❤❤😮
3 bikes...money no object. Interesting question. Ktm's 500 excf, MV Agusta Rush 1000, and a Multistrada v4s. But ask me again tomorrow. I will have a different answer.
I owned 27 bikes at height of my involvement...I got that way by never buying new...and a penchant for intresting engineering solutions. I had 10k invested. I also had a dealer plate that allowed me to be this way. I started selling them and profiting until I am down to 7. Why? You have not suffered until you have bought 6 tires in a month...done 3 oil changes. Worse is riding a bike because " you have not ridden that one for a while" Or Riding one bike and wishing you were on another.. Or racing bikes for 20 years & 27 track days...with that skill set ...going from bmw airhead.. to sr500...to honda magna...to tdm 850. THATS ALOT OF VARIANCE IN POWER DELIVERY...wheelbase...center or mass..rake/trail...gyroscope orientation' etc... I rode them all well BUT...lots of adj!! Heaven help you are riding the 1994 honda magna with the "program" loaded for the suz 400 bandit...or rz350 yam 😳😀😖🙄😬😃😎 Ever play golf with a different set of clubs EVERY round!!?? Play tennis with a different racket every set? You would suck....and errors-pain-death can lie in the margins! 4 to 5 with great contrast is probably right. 1 comfy 2 up bike I sporty bike 2 cheap dualsports A midrange adv bike 1 bike that is weird and magic and you love so much you put 100k miles on each of the 3! 1992 yamaha TDM850
Nice, similar shortlist. My short list: CRF300 Rally (would be Africa Twin if CRF300Rally didn't exist) KLR650 (fills the role mostly of an Africa Twin/GS 125/Vesys 1000 , for me I mean. 6 gallon tank and still big enough to cruise on interstate at 70-80mph if I want to) Rebel 1100 and same for the 4th, a Burgman Scooter, but I really love the Burgman 650's just for the 650cc engine in a scooter.
@@MotoDash1100 right on. ya, sometimes the KLR is a little unwieldy off road compared to a lighter bike like the CRF, but you can't beat the tank size and versatility. my buddy in NM just traded his GS for a CRF. the versys is an interstate monster that does not belong off road; it doesn't have spoked rims, 17" front tire, it weighs a ton and the plastic luggage is fragile. it's a touring bike with soft suspension. i just got the fat boy and i'm warming up to it, i hadn't had a cruiser for a few years since i sold my vulcan 900. i like the burgman 400 because it's still a traditional scooter with a centrifugal drive. the 650 is awesome but the mechanical variator is not super appealing to me. i do like, however, how Ryan F9 called it a half-a-busa. his video on the burgman is great.
On the topic of how many bikes to have, I had a question that might be worth discussing: Should you keep a bike that scares you? Little backstory to the question: I've had the same modded '96 Kawasaki Vulcan 800 since I was 23 and rode that the last 6 years. Earlier this year I bought a Honda ST1100 to do a big summer trip. But the first ride I took after getting in registered I got run off the road by some idiot, I came out of it ok but could have been much worse (I flew right through a gap between 2 big oak trees). I fixed the bike and took my trip a month ago, but the bike now scares the sh*t out off me some times. I figured that would get better with doing more miles but at the end of my 2500 mile trip it has not changed. I do like the Honda, and I know most of what scares me about it is irrational, I just can't seem to shake it. I have no problems riding the Vulcan eventhough that is without question a much more unsafe bike. Grtz from Belgium, J.
If the trip did not solve the fear,you will never enjoy it to its fullest. Find another bike with the same basic pluses (FJ/Concours/etc) for you or maybe a new flavor (Versys 650, NV700, maybe VFR800) and sell the ST1100 to someone without personal baggage around it. My favorite motorcycleall through college was my Nighthawk 650 but after the third time it got hit in a parking lot, I just sold it. It was not worth it anymore.
Interesting note, here in Montana bikes are registered once permanently, and insurance is not required on bikes. Makes owning multiple bikes less expensive.
I had 3 before I'm down to 1 now. Sold a 2014 aprilia sx50 for £2015 last month and a year ago sold a Honda xr250r 1996 for £2050 that's a fair price. And even got rid of a ford focus 2008 but that went to the mother in law. So I've gone from 5 vehicles down to just 2
I have a BMW R1200R 2009 and a 2016 Sportster Roadster both of which I love and can't see trading, but I still desire a third for variety, a Suzuki sv 650! I'm 75 and gave up dirt riding and love twins!
In answer to the title question "How many bikes in the garage is too many"? One. That's what my wife said so that's why I converted my work shed to accommodate two bikes. Question answered
It will be a huge missed opportunity if Ural doesn't hire Sacha Baron Cohen to reprise his role as Borat and proclaim them to be "Number four motorcycle manufacturer in all of Kazakhstan." VERY NICE!
I grew up in a riding family. Always joke that I never got into srugs, because my addiction always had me too poor to afford them. Started at age 5, with an 80 YZ 50, that my parents brought home with a matched pair of 81 XS 650 Specials. Yes. They both rode since the early 70s. They always had bikes. Hell, I had my class D for 48 hours, before dad had me skipping school for the day, to take.my permit test. Spent the rest of the day riding. Got my M 3 weeks.later. Rode to school the next day, had my girlfriend on the back that afternoon. Average number was 7, at any one time. One or.two projects. 4.to 5 runners, dual sport and cruiser, with an odd tourer popping up at times. Yes. I was the 20.year old, riding a Goldwing, GL 1000,.then.a 1200, to class, parked in my apartment, sliding glass porch door, at night. Most we had at once? 18, 16 running and ridden. First wife, I never had more than 2. She gave me the me or the bike speech. I helped her pack. Met the current one, or ran into her again, a year, one.kid, and a failed engagement later. Started watching her daughter at night. Warm nigjts, grab her helmet, help her on, she was 5, and diwn to a park, the pier, ice cream shop,.or just a ride to anywhere. Mom and dad wouod watch her, and we'd go.out. moved in, and after a.month on the p pad, decided she wanted her own. Bought her mom's XS650 for her birthday, mom and dad got her a.new lid,.gloves, and a.learher jacket. Got her oermit that Monday, and I loaded my beater ? Yamaha 125 4.stroke into the truck, with my 250. Took her to a friend's farm, and we hit the pasture. Biggest thing was learning how to shift it, taught her stick with my Dakota, and breaking ATV habits. After that, a couple more trips, on to the street. And.... I created a monster. Current bikes, 22. 4 project, 2 fresh overhauls, 18 runners. 2 track, 2 tourers, the rest cruisers and a few miscle bikes. Also stared our daughter at 6, used YZ 50, we rebuilt between Christmas and her birthday. 80, 125, 250, and a Suzuki 400 SP, that became her first dual sport. She and her husband both ride,.met at a local bike night. He's a city employee, she's a nurse. 4 currently, looking for a.small place on some land, in the country. With a large pole barn At that point, we'll be passing along part.of our fleet. Gonna pass.along a.few.of the bigger ones, as I became an above knee amputee in 21. Still ride, but going smaller, and working back up.to midsized, seemed like the best plan. Right leg, so the three of them can claim a Brit each. The rest, brake pedal mods are currently being tested, successfully, and working.
Trip bike,.droends on the mood,.and destination. Favorite long distance is a tie. Love my VTX 1800c, my.79 XS Eleven Special, or my, now my wife's, 93 Heritage Softail, I built in 01. Twisties, XS Eleven again, or the XS 850.
Getting married, cut your garage in half. You said 6 bikes, you can now only afford 2 bikes. Two marriages. Own two bikes. But I do live on the beach ⛱. So you can look forward to that in the future.
Once you have been on a track, perhaps your license should be stamped, "Track Only." Speed limits exist. What reason can you give for wheelies, while driving "speed limits"? On dirt, yeah -- popping the front wheel over a fallen log, fine. On the street, not so much.
Nice episode. Pedantry Alert! Technically, the USSR (comprising Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan) was formed by treaty in 1922 not post WW2. The Warsaw Pact was post WW2, of course, in 1955. Oh for 5 bikes!!!
Yeah, I should have known better.... I used to be a history teacher. Sometimes it's hard keep all of these facts straight in my head whilst talking to a screen and not getting distracted by Zack's beauty...
@@SpurgeonDunbar fun fact on Kazakhstan: it was actually the very last country to still be 'in' the USSR. It remained the sole state in the union a whole 4 days after Russia became the Russian Federation.
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Should’ve told the guy with the Africa Twin to stop carrying all his friends shit around and see what they think then 😂
3 makes sense to me. Something fast, something comfortable and something for off road.
ZX-4RR, NC700X/KLR650/Rebel 500, and then CRF300 Rally.
Fast, comfy, and offroad.
What's your bikes to fit those categories?
Another benefit of owning multiple bikes is that each bike comes with its own community. I first got into motorcycling mainly because I wanted a year-round hobby. I was expecting a hermit-like experience in my garage but I soon realised that when you are tinkering on a bike, you are often dependent on a global community that lives on the brand- and even model-specific forums. I still get giggles when I post my problem on a forum from Finland, and within fifteen minutes get helped by someone in Sydney and another one in Buenos Aires, And the next day, I pay it forward by helping someone in Agadir.
I’ve got a grom for going from street to street. A shadow 750 for going neighborhood to neighborhood, a vtx 1800 for going city to city, and a Goldwing for going state to state
I'm up to 11 now about my limit. 4 riders in the family. Kawasaki concours14, KTM 1290SDGT, KTM990SD, Yamaha FZ6, Yamaha FZ6R, Kawasaki Ninja 400 (newest edition), Honda CR250R (2000), Honda CR250R (2001), kawasaki KDX200 and a Yamaha Vino. Only the newer CR250 is in pieces right now everything else is ready to roll. You can only ride one at a time so as you add them insurance is only a few dollars more (even for the big bikes).
Also, do y'all not remember that episode of MTV Cribs with Fabio..? Dude had like 30+ bikes throughout a... 3ish bedroom house with a small garage. It's been many years since I've seen it. Y'all should do an episode featuring him, he's been a biker for years.
I never knew this so I looked up the video...he has 200!!! My new hero...who knew!?
1. Long distance, 2. Around town, 3. Fast, 4. Off road, 5, project, 6 scooter
When the garage is full, there's always the front door!!!!!
Exactly! Just decide which bikes could conceivably be described as either 'automotive artwork' or - at a push - 'conversation piece', and put them in the living room.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227 Exactly!!!!
Spoken like a true bachelor!
5 bikes is my idealgarage. 1) quick bike for street and track, 2) off road, 3) touring bike, 4-5) eye-candy / nostalgia / project bike.
1) street triple 675r (one day i'll graduate to a panigale v2 or a tuono v4)
2) honda 450r
3) some people love ADVs but I love pavement so I'll go Ninja 1000sx or VFR800
4) vulcan 650s my uncle left me when he passed away
5) always wanted a thruxton or ducati sports classic
depends how many you actually want to keep in service. 3 is the max I can effectively keep going at the same time in terms of time and costs.
@@xorbe2 lol. did you listen to the episode?
Thanks for a great episode - from Ural to the dream garage: my kinda discussion! So a few comments:
When the German army was advancing eastwards in 1941, a motorcycle factory in Kiev was packed up and moved to safety behind the Ural mountains - hence the name, and unfortunately with the war now history comes full circle…
My garage:
Ural Ranger - for grocery runs, off-grid moto-camping, taking the Misses plus dog for a spin
HD PanAm - for (long-distance) travel
RE Himalayan - to keep Dad (75+) on the road, get my son on the road, get both off-road
RE Bullet - for City-commuting in bliss and happiness, nothing beats „the Helicopter“, from the kick-start onwards just a huge grin
Brough Superior SS100 - for cultivating escapism, fast curvy ride-outs
Bikes (urgently) „needed“:
Godet Sport GT - for sheer beauty and pedigree
Vincent Black Shadow - as it is the real thing
RE Interceptor Scrambler conversion - probably to replace both the PanAm and Himalayan
As my wife defined the binding boundary as 5 motorcycles, I have hard choices coming up…..
Hey, the Ural mountain range goes all the way down to Kazakhstan, so it’s all kosher in that sense, too.
USSR was found in 1922.
And even so, stuff like Triumph is made in India or Thailand and people will still call that a british bike. Japanese bikes aren't all made in Japan. So why would a Ural made in Kazakhstan not still be a Ural anyways.
Haha! I like that my garage is the thumbnail for this episode. May have bought our house because of the 60x40 shop... To house all the bikes... ✊🏻
Your garage is a thing of legends.
I like the comment, if you going to walk from one end of the garage to the other without getting stuck you need more. My snowblower and lawn mower take up one full size motorcycles worth of space so they might have to go.
I went the other way. I went from having a road bike, dirt bike, and scrambler to replacing those with a single premium dual-sport. Yeah, it's a compromise bike when it comes to doing on/off road things, but the time, space, and money saved have been well worth it. I put more miles on a single, well-maintained bike than I used to put on all the other bikes combined.
My first street bike was a 1981 440 LTD. What a cool little bike!
I've had three 440 LTD and they were better than it's replacement The 454. I haven't ridden it but the Vulcan 500 is probably better than both.
Wrong, you can never have too many 🤘
Three is good… the problem is I get attached, then I want another one… typically something old and finicky lol… so it never stays 3
As I am working my way through my "Budget Bucket List of Bikes" and have been for about 10 years now, I have no limit on too many bikes but I can say there is a limit to how many I personally can have running at any one time...it is 4. Since leaving college I have never owned more than 6 at a time (I flipped bikes in college).
I have no interest in dirt (lost that in my teens) so all mine are street oriented with one having a minor pretence for off paved roads. Current stable is: CX650, 1997 Kawasaki Concours, F650CS, 1999 VFR800, 2006 Buel Ulysses, and 2020 Kawasaki Z400. The F650CS is being parted out, the Connie is the one I never stop tinkering with (up for an FI swap right now), the VFR is sidelined waiting on parts after hitting an elk, the Z400 was so I always had a bike that started, the CX650 is just wierd and cool, and the Uly is because I wanted a big sport tourer while waiting on parts for the VFR as it was the bike I was cross-shopping when I got the VFR.
Each has their place but I could go down to two without much pain. The VFR800 and Z400 would be the two but man the Uly is growing on me! I still have a half-dowen bikes I want from the list and likely will have after used prices go back down.
I have 2 motorcycles and 2 scooters, I would agree with 3-4 being a good area to keep it in. Not too costly, but enough to keep you busy. These episodes are great to listen to during my 5 hour drive to/from site each week.
I have two bikes in the garage and I think two is perfect. They are both reliable, practical, fast, fun multi-purpose motorcycles.
If one is getting any kind of maintenance or work done on it I have a back up so my short sweet summer doesn’t pass by with me not having a motorcycle to ride.
If I was to own another motorcycle it would probably be BMW’s CE04 electric scooter 🛵
Great point from Zach about what to consider when buying another bike. I'm actually in that position right now, currently owning 2 Sportsers. Yeah I'm that weird guy that loves Sportsers. I currently have a 2003 883 xlh that is a decent daily rider, very lightly modified, and then I have my 88 883 to 1200 custom built rigid bobber that has the Buell XB9 top end. It's a major project bike. And I'll most likely purchase the new Nightster 975 in the next year or so. I am still weighing out the options, to be sure of what I'm buying.
Another big cost issue/con can be gear. Unless you buy one set of adv gear and try to use that on every bike you own the gear can add up pretty quick if your bikes are different enough. Motocross boots, peak/visor helmet, goggles, pressure suit/roost guard, knee/shin guards, etc. for your dirt bike and then you need a street helmet and street gear for your daily rider, leathers for the track and chaps for your cruiser. Actually, since this is a Revzilla video that probably goes in the pro column since they will be happy to sell it to you 😆. Another pro that wasn't specifically mentioned is that with multiple bikes you should always have something to ride when one of your other bikes is out of commission while you are working on it so no missed rides due to mechanical failure, etc. Some bike choices also add additional ancillary purchases that might not be obvious at first (e.g. if you live in an area that has no offroad riding you will need a trailer or a pickup and ramps to haul it somewhere you can use it).
The section about which bike your gonna take for road short road-trip, is so funny 😂 but I agree about the 890, my Kawasaki 1000A1 from ‘77 is sometimes jealousy if I take the KTM 890 for a mainly road trip. But I if want to hear some sound while driving I definitely take my Kawa with the Yosimura R/S-3 from the 80th a customer made 4-2-1 exhaust made by Pajic-R&D in the Netherlands. Whow what a great sound.
scooters are rad, Zack. I spend as much time on my Honda Helix as I do on my CB. Excellent for commuting, errands, and just cruising.
The Side car wheel can be engaged so it will be two wheel drive I think I saw on line someplace
Yup, FortNine made a video about it, I remember something about the sidecar wheel being a drive wheel potentially. Just forget if it's stock or you had to add a chain, I'm leaning towards it beings a stock option.
I think in terms of categories. Although there are probably two dozen categories out there, I'm interested in a minimum of six categories: 1. middleweight touring. 2. Middleweight sporty bike. 3. Light middleweight sporty bike. 4. Middleweight dual purpose/adventure bike. 5. Light middle weight dual purpose bike. 6. Middleweight cruiser bike. Then I have bikes that are so unique that they defy their category: TW200 and CT110. Some call it a sickness, but I'm working on culling the herd. I'm currently at just over 30 bikes, after getting rid of 15. I've had about 10 bikes at a time most of my adult life. That's not including dirt bikes, and now I'm getting old enough that I'll be looking at trikes in a few years!
I’m glad Spurg mentioned twisted road. I’ve been looking at that website and riders share to rent my bike out. It’s a V-strom and I know how much you guys love the strom! Haha
Maybe another podcast or a CTXP episode of the process, pros/cons, things for owners and renters to think about.
zack seems like such a sensible and safe rider on his daily rider show, but since i’ve been listening to HSLS i’ve discovered he’s quite a hooligan 😂
No such thing as too many, build another garage!
About registration, that is a thing in the Netherlands if you own a bike before 1978. Because for my Kawasaki Z1000-A1 I had to register it al the time because it had an old Dutch Plate (the little blue one) and I did not want to loos that number and the smal plate. So I had to pay for it (a little amount) for more than 10 years because it was a project … where I could not find the time for ;-). I got it up-and running 4 years ago and still enjoy that motorbike, it is still an iconic bike. I never had the need to buy something else … until I had the desire to do more on/Off Road, so I bought a year ago a KTM 890 Adventure-R. This bike has a bit of a status as the Kawasaki Z-Series had in the 70th and the 80th. So I can say I’m a happy man owning to iconic bikes 🤩.
Congrats on the engagement Spurgeon, nicely done.
I have 11 bikes ranging from old vespa to goldwing, Ducati to Royal enfield and love them all. Only 1 doesn’t run (yet) but like a crazy cat lady, I’m beginning to think I might have a problem.
Finally, a new HS/LS. And, the "very enthusiastic" scooter-dude Spurge mentions at 22:24? I believe that was me. :-) (Yep, a FaceTime with Zack would've been cool, but shootin' the Shinola with Spurgeon was more than enough fun.)
As far as # of bikes in the garage? If I *had* a garage, that number would likely still be one, since (1) it wouldn't be terribly large, and (2) my ride would be sharing that non-generous space with m'lady's car.
Congratulations on the engagement Spurg!!!
Thanks!!
As a guy who owns a 2022 890 adv. Even with the 21" front. It's pretty good on the road. If I was going to make it a 90/10 bike I may want to drop the wheels to a 19"front 17" rear. The front gyroscopic effect is pretty strong. It really wants to stand up in the corners.
If I could N+1. Aprilia tuono v4, keep my 890 adv & pick up a xc-300w would be my choices.
Mmmmm.... Good bike.... Like your style....
To me, you need three bikes. A long haul, high payload, 19 inch front wheel, adventure bike, under 250 kg. Any 600cc light, 17 inch front wheel, street bike, under 200 kg, naked, whatever. And a light, 21 inch front wheel, dual sport, under 140 kg. I am missing one of these three, which makes hunting for it interesting. The wheel size choices, and wet weights define it all.
I have 3 bikes and that seems to be a pretty good number for me, a VStrom, a DT175 trail bike, and a vintage Moto Guzzi for the Sunday cruise. If I were to add a 4th it would be a small bop around city bike - scooter, trail 125, or Grom etc.
I’m very similar. I have a Tenere, a crf250, and a vintage Suzuki. If I grabbed a 4th it would be a grom, rebel 1100, or xsr900.
The right number is the current number you have plus 1. Luckily for me I have no interest in project bikes or off road so now I only have two but I'd like one or two more. 17 R9T, 22 Monkey, two I'd add would be Streetfighter V4 and something for highway and some longer touring so a fairing (Tuono, Hayabusa, H2SX).
Glad to have you back but that was one quick break. Hope you guys got enough vaca time. How many bike is too many? Surely such a number does not exist. Bought my first bike just over a year ago and I'm looking at getting more. Any expiring registration is a money making scam from your state. Any vehicle should only have to registered once and that's when you buy it. Congrats on the upcoming nuptials Spurge! 3. Moto Guzzi Griso 8V 2. Triumph Scrambler 1200 1. Can Am Spyder F3T Knew it was Harley engine definitely had that potato, potato, potato rhythm. Lets get the flock outta here and see you in 2 weeks!
Can't stay away too long, Zack and I get antsy.... Thanks for the kind congrats on the engagement! It's been a great summer so far!!
The correct equation to determine the number of bikes you should have in your garage is n+1, where 'n' is the number of motorcycles currently in the garage.
fun fact: the first bike i ever rode was a buell blast. it was my mormon friend’a dads bike, and we snuck it out of the garage after class in high school and took it around the block lol. what a weird bike, very fitting for a mormon dad.
At one time,back in the ‘90s, I had 12 motorcycles from new to old (‘60s - 80’s vintage). A Husky 250, H-D Italian 2 stroke, two Ducati singles, a Bonneville, a Benelli Sprite, Bultaco Alpina 350, etc.
Also, I had two sidecar rigs, a new BMW/Ural and a KLR 65O/Velorex unit w/ a stiffened and strengthened frame & suspension w/studded tires (this was my winter-in-Michigan rig).
My latest purchase was a M-G 1200 Stelvio.
My opinion on this topic? I wish I had never acquired all these bikes :-(
Two frame-up restorations were accomplished, but it wasn’t feasible to restore everything that my 1960’s Moto-lust had appealed to me.
Sadly now, I’m down to three bikes. A 2004 XR650R w/street legal kit that I rode to Argentina from Kentucky, my BMW/Ural rig, and a M-G Stelvio 1200.
Selling, but not restoring, these many bikes is a terrible regret for me.
I remember them with sadness.
Three is a good number unless you have tons of cash and a lot of time on your hands!
I feel sorry for you young guys who grew up in the 2000’s with all the tech, but none of the soul.
So my issue is having so many that it's hard to keep them all ridden enough to stay running and not start having issues with batteries and seals leaking. Yes I keep them on tenders but still it seems like the batteries still go prematurely. I currently have 9 bikes that I make sure get ridden at least 1 good ride every week or 2..
2 Ducati's, 2 Harley's, 2 Honda's, 2 Royal Enfield's, and last is my wife's Ryker Rally. I just got rid of 2 KTM's but loved those bikes and miss my 500EXC.
I had the same issue with the batteries and switched to lithium and have not had an issue. They can sit for at least a month and start up like it's nothin. As to the seals going...still haven't figured that one out yet...
For Ural, I’m glad they have the Chutzpah to think out of the box and keep trying…I’d buy one just because of their positive attitude!
which box?
Spurge, your explanation of the Spviet Union made the history teacher in me cry a little bit.
My experience: Have 2: One Japanese, and one whatevah - you'll be pretty sure not to miss any of the riding season.
I'm down for the practicality but the dream garage caught me by surprise... no budget considerations and no-one went for a Britten or Desmocedici just to have it in the garage! I could put up with muscling a large adventure bike through tight single trail if it meant having a piece of motorcycling art that would put a horn on a jellyfish!
Zack needs more bikes.
I agree with the 5 bikes for the following specifics: Yamaha MT07, Honda Africa Twin, Honda 150 ADV, Honda CRF 110, Yamaha PW50 (for my kids)
Such humble dream garages. No one said something like Valentino Rossi's championship winning bike or a Britton V1000 or Burt Munro's Indian Scout.
Surely, one of you had a lawn mower themed OCC Chopper on your list. Hahaha! Also, I love 👕s
If I had money, I'd buy a Ural. They are just cool.
Yes! I want a Ural so I could unironically do Uber passenger rides, just have to sign up for Uber using some coupe or sportscar that only has 1 passenger seat.
Could do okay for drunks at 2am and good for airport rides imo.
Dream bikes, more than 3 by a bit lol
1. Wankel engine motorcycle, just for the unique rotary design and being able to kill the headlight with bike still on
2. Ural Sidecar (a more modern one)
3. KLR650 with the HDT Diesel engine, because it seems to appreciate pretty well + diesel high MPG
4. Royal Enfield Bullet - DIesel converted, because super high MPG of that diesel engine + bit of rare motorcycle history
5. KLR650 2022, for the practical daily commuter, 6gal tank, 53mpg, nice and tall seat height with good ground clearance
6. CRF300 Rally, for same reasons as the 3rd gen KLR, but even better gas mileage, but slightly less total range. Comes stock with better reliability.
7. Honda Goldwing (2020+ one) because hey, CB Radio while interstate travelling can be pretty useful + why not?
8. Super Cub 125 , 2020 model year with the red main color. Bit of mootrcycle history, but with modern parts.
9. CT125 Because it's the Cub I actually prefer for commuting use and having light fun in the bush.
10. Suzuki Burgman 650 , because it's a good scooter with a 650cc engine
11. Honda NC750 non-DCT, simply because frunk makes it a very good daily commuting motorcycle
12. Kawasaki Z125 Pro, can't forget about the Z125, it's the mechanically superior Grom (at least on paper)
13. Suzuki DR200 , because it's timeless and simple
14. Moto Guzzi V85TT , because I want a shaft drive motorcycle under 1 liter and Moto Guzzi is the only current aside from a Shadow 750.
15. Z650RS , because it looks nice, and I'd like a motorcycle reminiscent of the Z2 / 750cc bike Kawasaki used to make
16. Yamaha SR400 , because it uses a kickstart, this was put onto the list after issues with an old bike that could've done with having a kickstarter too.
Really, after #9 they aren't AS high on the dreamlist for me, moreso neat novelty stuff (example: 650cc scooter, frunk, z125, old 200cc carb bike, shaft drive, GTO-esque motorcycle, and kickstart only).
Runner ups:
Rebel 300 for it's gas mileage, Rebel 500 for it's potential 120mph with a 16/37 sprocket setup and good interstate traveller for a single person, and Rebel 1100 if you travel with two people and/or want a fast boy stock and don't mind being limited to 100mph on a 1.1 liter bike.
Non-rebel runner ups: Honda Silverwing (since it's the sensible version of the Goldwing.. which is also why Honda killed it so you either had to own a Rebel 450, CB, or a Shadow.) and also Honda ST1300 since it has a 7 gallon tank, the only new ones are made for motorcycle cops at least it seems that way on the Honda website. Shame Honda hates having bikes with 5 gal + fuel tanks.
I've always had a soft spot for Urals, suddenly I am considering one. Sounds like ethical management to me.
Thinking of adding a 2nd bike to my Garage.
I am 32 living in the UK and currently have an xsr700 and have been riding just under 2 years.
I am after a bike to use in winter and something to tinker with and subtly modify.
I am interested in a Yamaha townmate t80 or an Armstrong MT350 (a little different I know right). What would you guys choose. The townmate is cheaper, parts are easier to find and it is easier to store. But the Armstrong is more interesting, more usable at higher speeds however more expensive.
Thoughts please? Love the podcast. ✌❤
How many too many?? 4 in my garage.. 03 Honda (Vespa like) scooter, 1983 XT250, 2002 HD Electroglide Classic (with something other than a stock motor) 2019 DR650,, learning the dirt after riding pavement for 48 yrs., and sliding WAY too many feet down the road. The DR was my 40th bike owned.
Thanks guys for doing what you do. I've been podcasting it for two weeks and have listened to 40ish podcasts.
Can you do a review on the Moto Guzzi V85TT.. please
Tanks
David
In Australia it costs around $700 for registration, $1000 for insurance and $40 for inspection every year. You should feel lucky. We have 8 motorcycles, it’s an expensive addiction in Australia!!… 🤪
701 Enduro set up for adventure travel and camping
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2nd gen Hayabusa for the highway-munching, or pseudo-sportbike needs.
Im pretty content with these two. A Ninja 400 with a cage to work on stunts could be a nice addition, but I really do feel like my bases are covered with these two.
I only have 4.
One of them is disassembled and in boxes in my bedroom, because i dont have a garage. This makes me feel fomo 🤣
I only have 16. Soon to be 18 if I get my way. The only downside is doing the maintenance and tires for all the bikes.
Great episode! I think the perfect number would be 4, even though I currently only have one. I’d go with a Goldwing (I’m only 39 but there is no better for 2up riding), a dual sport like a Honda CRF450RL, Versys 1000 (my current bike), and a forth that would be whatever I’m into at the moment, maybe something crazy like a superveloce or I like the z900RS cafe. Thanks!
I love my z900rs cafe. You gotta try one out.
good choices!
My highest street legal bike total was 5 bikes. That didn't last long as I learned my multi-bike discount for insurance only covered 4 bikes. So the 5th had to have a separate policy, which had no discount.
I have had 5 bikes several other times that included dirt bikes, with no insurance.
As far as maintenance logs... Am I the only one that logs that stuff in the owners manual? 😄
My desired garage is a little crazy.
Track
Track/Race
Mini
Trails
DS
ADV
Street simple
Sporty
2-Up
Touring
Lots of overlap in that mix and plenty of bikes can do multiple of those. Some considerations can be given, but would prefer fewer compromises.
6-7 is probably where I’ll settle. Most I’ve ever had is 6, currently at 4 but will be at 5 or 6 in another couple months.
Insurance puts a huge damper on the dream garage. Need a currently unavailable policy since it wouldn’t benefit the ins companies in the US, that only has comp unless in use.
Track bikes and trail bikes don’t get insured for me.
Hey fellas, greetings from Brazil!
I think one of each style is enough haha
And a truck to carry some of them when necessary...
Zack! What about Stark Varg? Have you guys tested or learned anything about them. I remember your skepticism from a previous episode and have not heard anything since.
I have 5... Which is simultaneously too few and too many.
- Registration and insurance aren't too bad for me at my location.
- Space requirements, and maintenance efforts and costs are high.
- I'm currently interested in two or three more (which, if I were to actually acquire, I'd still be interested in another two or three more...)
- I can only ride one at a time, so multiple are not going to get the ride time they deserve. (IMO, the biggest con).
Factory Z900 tires? Probably Dunlop Sportmax GPR300s.
They are just ok. Fine for breaking in the bike, but swapping them out on my Z900RS was the best move I ever made
Hi guys, writing to you from Kyiv, Ukraine. We have a war going on here, but still I dream about a new bike. Currently I have Suzuki RF400 and considering 2 options:
1) Honda VFR 800 (about 2002 year built);
2) Suzuki Hayabusa (1 generation).
Plan to use 50/50: outside the city on the highways or in the city (mostly weekends or nightly runs).
What option would you think is better, considering the price is almost the same?
I went from a 5th gen Vfr800 (1998) to a 2nd gen Hayabusa. So not *quite* what you're talking about, but pretty close.
The VFR is just such an incredibly well built bike. I've yet to own, or ride anything else that feels as solid as a 90's Honda. If you could only have one bike, I'd go for the VFR in a heartbike. It's fast (enough), comfortable (enough), dead reliable... Just fix the rectifier/regulator issue and you're good to go.
I love my current Hayabusa, and plan to hold onto it forever. It's surprisingly comfortable, and can be ridden calmly around town-you don't *always* have to be going triple digit speeds. I'd go with the Hayabusa if you had another, smaller bike to pair it with. I use a dirtbike, but a scooter would work as well.
As long as Ural was made in Russia I would not buy one but now that they have moved I would!
You all need psychiatric help I'm so happy happy right now.
This is the greatest podcast in the history of the earth this particular episode is the BOMB.😂❤❤❤😮
I don't know how many are too many but I know the perfect number of bikes is...just one more.
3 bikes...money no object. Interesting question. Ktm's 500 excf, MV Agusta Rush 1000, and a Multistrada v4s. But ask me again tomorrow. I will have a different answer.
I owned 27 bikes at height of my involvement...I got that way by never buying new...and a penchant for intresting engineering solutions. I had 10k invested. I also had a dealer plate that allowed me to be this way.
I started selling them and profiting until I am down to 7.
Why?
You have not suffered until you have bought 6 tires in a month...done 3 oil changes.
Worse is riding a bike because " you have not ridden that one for a while"
Or
Riding one bike and wishing you were on another..
Or racing bikes for 20 years & 27 track days...with that skill set ...going from bmw airhead.. to sr500...to honda magna...to tdm 850.
THATS ALOT OF VARIANCE IN POWER DELIVERY...wheelbase...center or mass..rake/trail...gyroscope orientation' etc...
I rode them all well BUT...lots of adj!! Heaven help you are riding the 1994 honda magna with the "program" loaded for the suz 400 bandit...or rz350 yam 😳😀😖🙄😬😃😎
Ever play golf with a different set of clubs EVERY round!!??
Play tennis with a different racket every set?
You would suck....and errors-pain-death can lie in the margins!
4 to 5 with great contrast is probably right.
1 comfy 2 up bike
I sporty bike
2 cheap dualsports
A midrange adv bike
1 bike that is weird and magic and you love so much you put 100k miles on each of the 3!
1992 yamaha TDM850
4 is a good number. Mine are Versys 1000, KLR 650, Fat Boy and Burgman 400.
Nice, similar shortlist.
My short list:
CRF300 Rally (would be Africa Twin if CRF300Rally didn't exist)
KLR650 (fills the role mostly of an Africa Twin/GS 125/Vesys 1000 , for me I mean. 6 gallon tank and still big enough to cruise on interstate at 70-80mph if I want to)
Rebel 1100
and same for the 4th, a Burgman Scooter, but I really love the Burgman 650's just for the 650cc engine in a scooter.
@@MotoDash1100 right on. ya, sometimes the KLR is a little unwieldy off road compared to a lighter bike like the CRF, but you can't beat the tank size and versatility. my buddy in NM just traded his GS for a CRF. the versys is an interstate monster that does not belong off road; it doesn't have spoked rims, 17" front tire, it weighs a ton and the plastic luggage is fragile. it's a touring bike with soft suspension. i just got the fat boy and i'm warming up to it, i hadn't had a cruiser for a few years since i sold my vulcan 900. i like the burgman 400 because it's still a traditional scooter with a centrifugal drive. the 650 is awesome but the mechanical variator is not super appealing to me. i do like, however, how Ryan F9 called it a half-a-busa. his video on the burgman is great.
On the topic of how many bikes to have, I had a question that might be worth discussing:
Should you keep a bike that scares you?
Little backstory to the question: I've had the same modded '96 Kawasaki Vulcan 800 since I was 23 and rode that the last 6 years. Earlier this year I bought a Honda ST1100 to do a big summer trip. But the first ride I took after getting in registered I got run off the road by some idiot, I came out of it ok but could have been much worse (I flew right through a gap between 2 big oak trees). I fixed the bike and took my trip a month ago, but the bike now scares the sh*t out off me some times. I figured that would get better with doing more miles but at the end of my 2500 mile trip it has not changed. I do like the Honda, and I know most of what scares me about it is irrational, I just can't seem to shake it. I have no problems riding the Vulcan eventhough that is without question a much more unsafe bike.
Grtz from Belgium, J.
If the trip did not solve the fear,you will never enjoy it to its fullest. Find another bike with the same basic pluses (FJ/Concours/etc) for you or maybe a new flavor (Versys 650, NV700, maybe VFR800) and sell the ST1100 to someone without personal baggage around it.
My favorite motorcycleall through college was my Nighthawk 650 but after the third time it got hit in a parking lot, I just sold it. It was not worth it anymore.
Dream garage : Honda NR750, Yamaha GTS 1000 and Ducati 916.
mate theres no such thing as to many bikes in your shed great vid guys cheers
I have a Grom, R3, and R6. It'd be nice to add a crossplane R1 to the stable.
Interesting note, here in Montana bikes are registered once permanently, and insurance is not required on bikes. Makes owning multiple bikes less expensive.
That's crazy.... Amazing.
I had 3 before I'm down to 1 now. Sold a 2014 aprilia sx50 for £2015 last month and a year ago sold a Honda xr250r 1996 for £2050 that's a fair price. And even got rid of a ford focus 2008 but that went to the mother in law. So I've gone from 5 vehicles down to just 2
I have a BMW R1200R 2009 and a 2016 Sportster Roadster both of which I love and can't see trading, but I still desire a third for variety, a Suzuki sv 650! I'm 75 and gave up dirt riding and love twins!
Its N+1
Alright fellas, fess up... Who let the dogs out at 19:05? 😂
I have 2 in the garage with the goal of buying a house that can comfortably fit 4 bikes and a car. Then I can park the car outside when I want more 😂
FTR on the lift! WOOT!
Ah! Suffering from MHS: Motorcycle Hoarding Syndrome!
(I´m maxed out at five with no garage !)
In answer to the title question "How many bikes in the garage is too many"? One. That's what my wife said so that's why I converted my work shed to accommodate two bikes. Question answered
Yamaha Tenere 700, Kawasaki KLX300, Ducati Hypermotard.
the ideal number of bikes = N+1, where N is the current number of bikes owned.
It will be a huge missed opportunity if Ural doesn't hire Sacha Baron Cohen to reprise his role as Borat and proclaim them to be "Number four motorcycle manufacturer in all of Kazakhstan."
VERY NICE!
What type of question is that? As many as you can fit
I grew up in a riding family. Always joke that I never got into srugs, because my addiction always had me too poor to afford them. Started at age 5, with an 80 YZ 50, that my parents brought home with a matched pair of 81 XS 650 Specials.
Yes. They both rode since the early 70s. They always had bikes. Hell, I had my class D for 48 hours, before dad had me skipping school for the day, to take.my permit test. Spent the rest of the day riding. Got my M 3 weeks.later. Rode to school the next day, had my girlfriend on the back that afternoon.
Average number was 7, at any one time. One or.two projects. 4.to 5 runners, dual sport and cruiser, with an odd tourer popping up at times.
Yes. I was the 20.year old, riding a Goldwing, GL 1000,.then.a 1200, to class, parked in my apartment, sliding glass porch door, at night.
Most we had at once? 18, 16 running and ridden.
First wife, I never had more than 2. She gave me the me or the bike speech. I helped her pack. Met the current one, or ran into her again, a year, one.kid, and a failed engagement later. Started watching her daughter at night. Warm nigjts, grab her helmet, help her on, she was 5, and diwn to a park, the pier, ice cream shop,.or just a ride to anywhere. Mom and dad wouod watch her, and we'd go.out. moved in, and after a.month on the p pad, decided she wanted her own. Bought her mom's XS650 for her birthday, mom and dad got her a.new lid,.gloves, and a.learher jacket. Got her oermit that Monday, and I loaded my beater ? Yamaha 125 4.stroke into the truck, with my 250. Took her to a friend's farm, and we hit the pasture.
Biggest thing was learning how to shift it, taught her stick with my Dakota, and breaking ATV habits. After that, a couple more trips, on to the street.
And....
I created a monster.
Current bikes, 22. 4 project, 2 fresh overhauls, 18 runners. 2 track, 2 tourers, the rest cruisers and a few miscle bikes.
Also stared our daughter at 6, used YZ 50, we rebuilt between Christmas and her birthday. 80, 125, 250, and a Suzuki 400 SP, that became her first dual sport. She and her husband both ride,.met at a local bike night.
He's a city employee, she's a nurse. 4 currently, looking for a.small place on some land, in the country.
With a large pole barn
At that point, we'll be passing along part.of our fleet. Gonna pass.along a.few.of the bigger ones, as I became an above knee amputee in 21. Still ride, but going smaller, and working back up.to midsized, seemed like the best plan. Right leg, so the three of them can claim a Brit each. The rest, brake pedal mods are currently being tested, successfully, and working.
Trip bike,.droends on the mood,.and destination. Favorite long distance is a tie. Love my VTX 1800c, my.79 XS Eleven Special, or my, now my wife's, 93 Heritage Softail, I built in 01.
Twisties, XS Eleven again, or the XS 850.
Getting married, cut your garage in half. You said 6 bikes, you can now only afford 2 bikes. Two marriages. Own two bikes. But I do live on the beach ⛱. So you can look forward to that in the future.
Once you have been on a track, perhaps your license should be stamped, "Track Only." Speed limits exist. What reason can you give for wheelies, while driving "speed limits"? On dirt, yeah -- popping the front wheel over a fallen log, fine. On the street, not so much.
You missed the hassle of keeping batteries charged
Was a Ural ever featured on Daily Commute? I'd love to see that one.
could call it the "all daily commute".
*Daily Rider FFS
Nice episode. Pedantry Alert! Technically, the USSR (comprising Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan) was formed by treaty in 1922 not post WW2. The Warsaw Pact was post WW2, of course, in 1955. Oh for 5 bikes!!!
Yeah, I should have known better.... I used to be a history teacher. Sometimes it's hard keep all of these facts straight in my head whilst talking to a screen and not getting distracted by Zack's beauty...
He is very distracting! Great programme, though.
@@SpurgeonDunbar fun fact on Kazakhstan: it was actually the very last country to still be 'in' the USSR. It remained the sole state in the union a whole 4 days after Russia became the Russian Federation.
Salt on the ground? What the hell, do you guys have a giant slug problem I'm not aware of?? In CA the worst we get is long lines at In n Out.
I had 5 at once, but 3 is too many. You just need a DR650 and a niche bike… that’s all. Ps… I regret selling my FJR
The Soviet Union came into being at the end of WW1, not WW2.
I only have a 1190R and a 701e...gotta build a larger garage and up my game