We would have been in even more trouble down south, if not for the SHAR. Especially after we decommissioned the Ark in 78. Doubt she’d have done well down there are she was getting a bit long in the tooth, with a fair number of failures to survive the South Atlantic… Still we have to be grateful for small mercies, as we have 2 new carriers, even without no cats and traps, I never thought we’d ever see the day, and 35’s, every cab has its strengths and weaknesses. Nice footage mostly good memories… Fly Navy⚓️
Agreed. It was never a “hit the brakes and he’ll fly right past” because that really is a Hail Mary last ditch maneuver. It made a lot of sense in high G turns though, just a few degrees down to push the aircraft tighter into the turn. Nothing could turn inside a SHAR and that was its trump card.
The last SHARs I saw were a flight of four lining up behind our Tristar tanker to take a 'sip' before departing on their shenanigans. Always surprised by how small the Harrier was when you get up to it. There's one you can touch at the Doncaster Aviation Museum (Harrier not a SHar).
@@Meccano403 I’m looking. And yup 👍 I see an economy shifting towards information and data processing. But hey, you don’t want to not keep pace with technology? And we still own our cuntry
@@ukraine7249A great deal of the assets linked to our critical infrastructure are owned by foreign or transnational parties, meaning money often flows outwards in our post-industrial economy. Further to that, although AI and automation aren't unique to the UK, they pose a further threat to the remnants of the labour-based economy that just about keeps the country from collapsing into poverty. I'd suggest having a more critical awareness of the issues, especially as they are usually sold to us as either beneficial or somehow "necessary"
No not really. BAE was instrumental in development and is critical to construction and assembly of F-35 family, all variants, especcially B. RNFAA and RAF F-35B is not identical to USMC F-35B. Avionics, communications, weapons, differ on UK variant of F-35B. American variants use British components. Its too complex and expensive to develop aircraft for 21'st Century. UK cannot go it alone. Even back in 1970's UK cooperated with French on SEPECAT Jaguar, and with Germans and Italians on Tornado. F-4K, the RNFAA variant of F-4, had British RR Spey motors instead of American engines. Today if UK would properly fund Royal Navy and RNFAA, the two UK carriers would be CATOBAR operating mix of F-35C and F-35B. But that is not to be. Blame the successive Torey and Labour administrations for criminally underfunding UK MOD, and leaving EU. But that is who British people elect.
43:32 out of curiosity would AIM-120s have really helped Sea Harrier FRS2s to battle with MIG-29s and SU-27 / SU-30 variants? Obviously any good Sea Harrier jock would know not to engage them at close quarters.
The Sea Harrier F/A 2, with Blue Vixen radar and AMRAAM, was considered the best air defence platform in Europe by the Americans, at that time. Having spoken to a number of SHAR pilots, the only aircraft they had a consistent problem with in air combat (exercises only), was the Mig 29.
naval carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor of the USMC operate from completely straight & flat flight decks of non-amphibious (STOL) expeditionary support LHAs . . . a fully laden carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor taking off from a straight flight deck without the help of a ski-jump is unheard of . . . but yet they do the USMC, wonder how . . .
The USMC AV/8B is not a Sea Harrier. We believe the USMC didn't incorporate Ski-Jumps into their flight decks to provide more space for parked aircraft.
@@militaryaviationtv the AV-8B & Sea Harrier is the same fighter aircraft . . . only different model designation based on how a navy classifies their individual naval air arm . . . very similar to how car makers designate a specific model of their car with different names in two or three different markets . . . for e.g. the Mitsubishi Pajero is known as Montero in the U.S. & Shogun in Europe . . . apparently the carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor & BAE Sea Harrier VTOL GR.2 multi role strike fighter has 89% commonality in terms of their specifications, capabilities & spare parts . . . for the carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor to take off from a straight & flat deck it had to do with 90% weapons load & 30% fuel . . . bcos fully laden the single Rolls Royce Pegasus turbofan of the AV-8B & Sea Harrier just don't have enough grunt to make the jet take off vertically with a full weapons load & fuel . . . which is why the ski-jump on British STOVL aircraft carriers, the ski-jump compensates for the lack of lift & power in the AV-8B & Sea Harrier when fully laden . . .
Mate, the AV/8B & Sea Harrier are NOT the same fighter! You might be confusing the AV/8B with the British RAF Harrier GR.5/7/9, which were second generation Harriers and known as the 'big-wing' Harrier. The Sea Harrier FRS.1/FA 2 is a first generation Harrier, developed from the RAF Harrier GR.3, which was also a first generation Harrier. As for the Ski-Jump, it was designed by Lt Doug Taylor from an idea he had from his love of skiing. From it's genesis the Harrier was never designed to take-off vertically with a full weapons/fuel load. Hence the Short Take Of in the V/STOL designation.
I know you had to add the royalty free music in the montage sections cause of copyright stuff but it's so loud compared to the rest of the doc, would it be possible to lower its volume on your end a bit?
It was in the news yesterday that a USMC Harrier pilot has shot down a total of 7 Houthi drones in the Red Sea (not in the same sortie) over the last few weeks. The Plane was flown by Capt Earl Ehrhart of the USMC.
@@mikeycraig8970 The AV-8B Is the same as the GR9, with just a few minor tweaks to the cockpit and a differnt name. The SHAR of course is an entirely different aircraft, differenrt wing, cockpit, hard points, engine etc etc.
It is well known within NATO that the Sea Harrier had a formidable air-to-air kill ratio. The Aggressor unit at RAF Alconbury were heavily beaten, quickly followed by the Bittburg based F-15 Eagles being well beaten, and this was back in 1979/80 before most Sea Harrier had their radar fitted!
The Sea Harrier can do things in combat that the F-35b cannot. Sea harrier can change exhaust during dogfight and takeoff and landing, F-35b can only change exhaust during takeoff and landing. So the sea harrier has the upper hand even though it is older. And age has nothing to do with good flying performance. 💋👍💪🦾💂🐯🎂🏆🎱🥂🍾🍺
In its day the Sea Harrier was a formidable fighter, ask the Americans who regularly got beaten in exercises, but the 5th generation F-35 is altogether a different beast.
Yet only one SHAR utilized VIFFing during the Falklands skirmish in an attempt to down a Pucara with disappointing results as detailed by retired Royal Navy Commander Paul Tremelling. The VIFFing capability was overblown and is a defensive tactic - as a last ditch attempt to avoid being shot down - not offensive. The SHARs in the Falklands were always on offense not defense.
As a former RAF engineer. I loved the Harrier
We would have been in even more trouble down south, if not for the SHAR. Especially after we decommissioned the Ark in 78. Doubt she’d have done well down there are she was getting a bit long in the tooth, with a fair number of failures to survive the South Atlantic… Still we have to be grateful for small mercies, as we have 2 new carriers, even without no cats and traps, I never thought we’d ever see the day, and 35’s, every cab has its strengths and weaknesses. Nice footage mostly good memories… Fly Navy⚓️
The gent in the dark flight suit rightfully downplays viffing as an effective tactical maneuver.
Losing in energy in a turning fight is almost always a bad idea. You can take energy away, but it is very hard to put back!
Agreed. It was never a “hit the brakes and he’ll fly right past” because that really is a Hail Mary last ditch maneuver. It made a lot of sense in high G turns though, just a few degrees down to push the aircraft tighter into the turn. Nothing could turn inside a SHAR and that was its trump card.
Proven and tested in the Falkland Island. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽🥇🥇🥇👏👏👏
Heroes!
The last SHARs I saw were a flight of four lining up behind our Tristar tanker to take a 'sip' before departing on their shenanigans.
Always surprised by how small the Harrier was when you get up to it. There's one you can touch at the Doncaster Aviation Museum (Harrier not a SHar).
Suoerb doc. They don't make them like this. The section with Dave Morgan where they just let him speak was great.
When we used to own our own country. Someone press rewind.
Lol 😂 ermmm thought we still do own our own country? 😂
@@Meccano403 I’m looking. And yup 👍 I see an economy shifting towards information and data processing. But hey, you don’t want to not keep pace with technology?
And we still own our cuntry
@@ukraine7249A great deal of the assets linked to our critical infrastructure are owned by foreign or transnational parties, meaning money often flows outwards in our post-industrial economy. Further to that, although AI and automation aren't unique to the UK, they pose a further threat to the remnants of the labour-based economy that just about keeps the country from collapsing into poverty. I'd suggest having a more critical awareness of the issues, especially as they are usually sold to us as either beneficial or somehow "necessary"
Back in the 1950s the UK was years ahead of anyone else in Aircraft design, but now we have to buy them from others.
No not really. BAE was instrumental in development and is critical to construction and assembly of F-35 family, all variants, especcially B. RNFAA and RAF F-35B is not identical to USMC F-35B. Avionics, communications, weapons, differ on UK variant of F-35B. American variants use British components. Its too complex and expensive to develop aircraft for 21'st Century. UK cannot go it alone. Even back in 1970's UK cooperated with French on SEPECAT Jaguar, and with Germans and Italians on Tornado. F-4K, the RNFAA variant of F-4, had British RR Spey motors instead of American engines.
Today if UK would properly fund Royal Navy and RNFAA, the two UK carriers would be CATOBAR operating mix of F-35C and F-35B. But that is not to be.
Blame the successive Torey and Labour administrations for criminally underfunding UK MOD, and leaving EU. But that is who British people elect.
What’s the song playing when thr harrier is doings it’s low level around that 32-36min mark please?
Hi @crazybbbb, the song is 'Away' by Patrick Patrikios.
02:41 is that the “Soapy” Watson?? Honestly there’s no shame talking about the Alraigo incident I mean better than ditching a Sea Harrier isn’t it??
Yes, that is 'Soapy' Watson. That was some of the best Harrier flying ever to land it on that container ship...
@@militaryaviationtv I can't even do it in DCS without the fear of losing the jet or running out of fuel!
Imagine being on HMS Ark Royal in 1963 and seeing a fighter jet pull up alongside and land like a helicopter.
43:32 out of curiosity would AIM-120s have really helped Sea Harrier FRS2s to battle with MIG-29s and SU-27 / SU-30 variants?
Obviously any good Sea Harrier jock would know not to engage them at close quarters.
The Sea Harrier F/A 2, with Blue Vixen radar and AMRAAM, was considered the best air defence platform in Europe by the Americans, at that time. Having spoken to a number of SHAR pilots, the only aircraft they had a consistent problem with in air combat (exercises only), was the Mig 29.
The Right Stuff....
Viffing to victory...😁
naval carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor of the USMC operate from completely straight & flat flight decks of non-amphibious (STOL) expeditionary support LHAs . . . a fully laden carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor taking off from a straight flight deck without the help of a ski-jump is unheard of . . . but yet they do the USMC, wonder how . . .
The USMC AV/8B is not a Sea Harrier. We believe the USMC didn't incorporate Ski-Jumps into their flight decks to provide more space for parked aircraft.
@@militaryaviationtv the AV-8B & Sea Harrier is the same fighter aircraft . . . only different model designation based on how a navy classifies their individual naval air arm . . . very similar to how car makers designate a specific model of their car with different names in two or three different markets . . . for e.g. the Mitsubishi Pajero is known as Montero in the U.S. & Shogun in Europe . . . apparently the carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor & BAE Sea Harrier VTOL GR.2 multi role strike fighter has 89% commonality in terms of their specifications, capabilities & spare parts . . . for the carrier borne AV-8B Sea Harrier II Plus VTOL multi role all weather interceptor to take off from a straight & flat deck it had to do with 90% weapons load & 30% fuel . . . bcos fully laden the single Rolls Royce Pegasus turbofan of the AV-8B & Sea Harrier just don't have enough grunt to make the jet take off vertically with a full weapons load & fuel . . . which is why the ski-jump on British STOVL aircraft carriers, the ski-jump compensates for the lack of lift & power in the AV-8B & Sea Harrier when fully laden . . .
Mate, the AV/8B & Sea Harrier are NOT the same fighter! You might be confusing the AV/8B with the British RAF Harrier GR.5/7/9, which were second generation Harriers and known as the 'big-wing' Harrier. The Sea Harrier FRS.1/FA 2 is a first generation Harrier, developed from the RAF Harrier GR.3, which was also a first generation Harrier.
As for the Ski-Jump, it was designed by Lt Doug Taylor from an idea he had from his love of skiing. From it's genesis the Harrier was never designed to take-off vertically with a full weapons/fuel load. Hence the Short Take Of in the V/STOL designation.
Indian navy too had these birds ❤️🇮🇳
Yes they did, the FRS.51. The Indian air & ground crew were initially trained at RNAS Yeovilton by the Royal Navy.
I know you had to add the royalty free music in the montage sections cause of copyright stuff but it's so loud compared to the rest of the doc, would it be possible to lower its volume on your end a bit?
Sadly, at this time, the TH-cam Studio does not allow the volume to be altered once a video has been uploaded. Sorry...
Good programme ruined by the cheesy music. Why not just let the pictures breathe with amazing natural sound of the aircraft itself?
I love this plane, does the us marines still use them?
Yes, the US Marines will be using them until 2029 possibly longer if the proves too costly to operate.
It was in the news yesterday that a USMC Harrier pilot has shot down a total of 7 Houthi drones in the Red Sea (not in the same sortie) over the last few weeks. The Plane was flown by Capt Earl Ehrhart of the USMC.
The music is a bit naff!
What! Nah mate, it's awesome...😁
Agreed 😂😂
Now Then. I am an AV8 B fan myself.
Great aircraft the AV/8B...
Which wouldn't exist without the Harrier, so......
@@mikeycraig8970 The AV-8B Is the same as the GR9, with just a few minor tweaks to the cockpit and a differnt name. The SHAR of course is an entirely different aircraft, differenrt wing, cockpit, hard points, engine etc etc.
RIP Steve..Pathetic how we binned this great aircraft when we had f**k all else to replace it..
Mi opinión del César Harris se puede reconstruir por las siguientes maneras no tripula tubiunas palma
The UK definitely got its money's worth from the Harrier and so did the Marines
The sea harrier was not the last all British fighter most of the harrier models were all British
...but the other types of Harriers were not fighters, that's why it's the last all-British fighter.
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Killratio 3-1 against F16s in favour of the harrier..... yeah sure 😂😂
It is well known within NATO that the Sea Harrier had a formidable air-to-air kill ratio. The Aggressor unit at RAF Alconbury were heavily beaten, quickly followed by the Bittburg based F-15 Eagles being well beaten, and this was back in 1979/80 before most Sea Harrier had their radar fitted!
The Sea Harrier can do things in combat that the F-35b cannot. Sea harrier can change exhaust during dogfight and takeoff and landing, F-35b can only change exhaust during takeoff and landing. So the sea harrier has the upper hand even though it is older. And age has nothing to do with good flying performance. 💋👍💪🦾💂🐯🎂🏆🎱🥂🍾🍺
In its day the Sea Harrier was a formidable fighter, ask the Americans who regularly got beaten in exercises, but the 5th generation F-35 is altogether a different beast.
The F-35 would have the Sea Harrier for lunch, its akin to putting a Sopwith Camel up against a Spitfire.
@@FallenPhoenix86 You're probably right, but then, when one aircraft is from the 70's, you would expect that...
Yet only one SHAR utilized VIFFing during the Falklands skirmish in an attempt to down a Pucara with disappointing results as detailed by retired Royal Navy Commander Paul Tremelling. The VIFFing capability was overblown and is a defensive tactic - as a last ditch attempt to avoid being shot down - not offensive. The SHARs in the Falklands were always on offense not defense.
sadly we can only imagine a MiG21UPG situation, such as a sea harrier with modern avionics