Nest Hello to NuTone

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  • @archon810
    @archon810 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Duuuude. Genius!
    As a software engineer and not an electrical engineer, I imagine this is like figuring out a decent algorithm out of thin air, implementing it, and having it work without major bugs.
    Awesome, now to find someone to do it to my Nutone system in Oakland, or get a Nest Pro to follow your lead.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I liken that chime module that the Nest provided like some software you downloaded that does X, Y, and Z and you're trying to make it do A, B, and C completely counter to why the code was written... Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't...

    • @shawnaross6464
      @shawnaross6464 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Artem Russakovskii -Hey Artem, did you find someone to install your Nest? I had 2 installers & neither one of them could do it. Just wondering, b/c I also live in the Bay.

    • @archon810
      @archon810 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shawnaross6464 Not yet, but I'm looking at this again now. www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/8kekhz/nest_hello_can_work_on_an_intercom_system/

  • @997993928
    @997993928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!!! This was my lifesaver on hooking mine up!! The parts list in the comments below helped immensely!!

  • @larrytompkins9326
    @larrytompkins9326 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lee,
    Your video/instructions worked perfectly. I have a M/S which is functioning ok. The only thing that gave me a pause was hooking up the relay, but thanks to your video all worked as you described. Only differences, I used a second transformer and a 3 watt resistor. By the way, two local electrical companies would/could not do. Thanks.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback. After re-capping the power circuit in the NuTone, my system sounds like a 25 ohm paper cone speaker system from the 80's. Working okay is what I was going for. Nest to Sonos would be way better.

  • @hart316
    @hart316 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is awesome! I have been searching to find a way to get one of these smart doorbells work exactly with my M&S dmc1 system. I really love how I can hear the doorbell in every room station and now I have to figure out a similar method. Nice Work!!

    • @cerua
      @cerua 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you get your DMC1 working with nest or ring doorbell? I also have a DMC1.

  • @electronlove
    @electronlove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video was very helpful. I swapped out the Nutone 15VA unit for a 30VA and went with the RIBU1C relay. It's working so far. Maybe one day I'll just swap out the Nutone for an in wall tablet...

  • @rjmallette
    @rjmallette 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn, you scienced the s*** out of that!

  • @davidogron1925
    @davidogron1925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've learned much from your video on wiring a NEST to the Nutone IM 3003 intercom system; thank you for posting it!
    Here's a question about the small NEST power unit, which you surmised is a voltage doubler in your circuit. Is it possible that a video doorbell of another brand may be capable of similar application without having a small, power unit? I ask because I'm aware of two other brands --Skybell and Ring--that describe wiring their doorbells to a 2-tone, mechanical doorbell directly without a small power unit---simply wiring it in place of the original door bell button with no other modification.
    Is it possible that a video doorbell may be capable working this way with a mechanical door chime's electromagnet but not able to activate a relay in its place?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, a device in-line could store power for itself in a capacitor and short itself at it’s power input giving the inline device (the solenoid two tone bell) the current it needs to move.

  • @drdez
    @drdez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completed this today! Thanks for the video you are the best!

  • @jimdelaney6015
    @jimdelaney6015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, short, to the point and info rich! Can you tell us what you used for the Nest Hello backing plate to cover the old Nutone doorbell opening? Looks nice.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @laskis innovations reports below in the comment section that an eBay seller is making a plate purpose built for the NuTone/Nest Conversions. th-cam.com/channels/e3rWRC368U0hSa7Fi6zPrw.html. I used a generic plate, drilled and painted it.

  • @watermark1974
    @watermark1974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Lee, Thanks for the detailed explanation. I followed the instructions and still the Nest does not ring the Nutone. Need some help. Let me know if you can call me or what should I do to give you more details.
    Thanks, Sam

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Without any of the Nest circuit, take a piece of scrap wire and try shorting the doorbell terminals on the NuTone's tone/ringer circuit board. If it rings then for some reason your relay isn't closing. If it doesn't ring, your problem is in the NuTone, not the Nest or the relay mod (most likely some dried up capacitors somewhere in the Nutone).

    • @watermark1974
      @watermark1974 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StagrLee Thanks Lee! It works when I short the doorbell. So does that mean, I have to get a new relay.

    • @watermark1974
      @watermark1974 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just get a click sound from the relay.

    • @watermark1974
      @watermark1974 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Lee, Thank you! It finally worked. Appreciate your help.

    • @drdez
      @drdez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You get this working?

  • @mikelee6131
    @mikelee6131 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have NuTone 3303 and it already has a 30 VA / 16 VAC transformer for the chime circuit. You guys are giving me confidence that I can get this done. I'm a mechanical engineer which makes me brave enough to try it, but still nervous. I've got the parts list, that Thuy Nguyen referenced, but I don't seem to need the transformer given what I've got in my 3303. I'm planning to get the rest of the parts and do the retrofit. Does this sound right? I measure 24 VAC out at the doorbell.
    Thanks in advance for the help!!
    Mike

    • @mikelee6131
      @mikelee6131 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      After getting thru Christmas, and receiving all of the ordered parts, I did the install today in about 2 hours. It works perfectly!! Doing the connections bread-board style was a smart idea to confirm everything worked properly before soldering and trimming all the wires. I was able to use the existing transformer since it's already 30 VA. The whole deal cost me about $45 including shipping for the parts, including a new faceplate for outside. Well worth it to keep the existing Westminster chime tone from the NuTone!
      Nest needs to step up and formalize this as a kit now...
      Thanks for publishing your design sir.

    • @mustang94cobra
      @mustang94cobra 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike, I also have a 3303 (also a ME) and just ordered my Hello today. My unit has two 30 VA transformers; not sure what for. I haven't taken anything apart yet but did you need to add the extra relay or resistors? I would be interested in your exact setup so I can replicate.

    • @gencomovies
      @gencomovies 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you guys get this working on your 3303? I’m looking to add this setup with my arlo video doorbell. The doorbell currently doesn’t get enough power.

  • @victorwhite1048
    @victorwhite1048 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Lee,
    Your video is just what I needed to be able to attempt this in my system. The only question I have is how to actually wire in the relay in my system? Could you help me out with some more details on that please?

    • @jimwebber5923
      @jimwebber5923 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Victor, please post an explanation if you gain clarity on this. I've got an M&S intercom and want to install Nest Doorbell as well. I think we've got to (1) add power with a 24 V transformer, but (2) then connect that "newly powered" nest back to the chime module after (3) a new relay and (4) a couple resistors. That said, I can't envision the circuit and order of connections, and I don't want to experiment by frying equipment....

    • @victorwhite1048
      @victorwhite1048 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimwebber5923 I think the transformer installed is already powerful enough (24vac according to the sticker on it), and I already bought the relay that I found referenced somewhere else (URBEST HH52P AC 24V Coil DPDT 8... www.amazon.com/dp/B00NN5ABG2?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share). I just need some help on how to connect it. I don't have much of an electrical background beyond simple switch outs of fixtures and switches. So will update if I get it done. In the comments of the relay on Amazon I found some guidance on how someone else wired it, so going to give it a shot.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@victorwhite1048 Keep the 24V transformer away from the Nutone. The Nutone's that I am familiar with are 16VAC systems

  • @TheBBear86
    @TheBBear86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m a dummy, but my Nutone was hooked up to a standard doorbell., with the speaker on the ceiling - but since the transformer is just 16v - 15va - it just chimes with not enough power for video. Would getting the 16V - 30Va be all I need. (Not using the Nest Chime at all - just activating Nutone chime still)?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      A guess here, but do you have an NuTone intercom or just a NuTone doorbell. NuTone has made regular doorbells since 1930's...

    • @TheBBear86
      @TheBBear86 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lee Thompson it’s the same model Nutone that you have, but they just kept a standard doorbell (once was a mechanical door chime) and it activates the Nutone chime. I briefly hooked the nest to the original door bell wires, and the light was yellow, which allowed me to ring the door bell like usual. I just don’t have enough juice for video

  • @samwise_K
    @samwise_K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you have used the RIBU1C relay for the relay? It has a 10-30V input coil.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't know about that one. Neat device. AC/DC relay, UL Listed. Looks like a big improvement over my choice as it will work well with spec or over spec transformers.

  • @vipulsawhney8625
    @vipulsawhney8625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi, I have a nutone LB-55. It is not an intercom system but it is an electronic doorbell with wiring for doorbell to the rear of the house (just a single bell) and one for the front of the house which is a westminister tone. I want to switch out the front door bell to a nest hello. Will your instructions work? I am assuming that they will , do you know where to purchase the relay, also can you make a more detailed video on this. I have searched and searched for a new door chime to work with the nest hello and there is some problem with all of them. I would love it if I could use your instructions and hook up my existing doorbell to the nest hello. I would even be happy to pay you to send me the kit to do this !!

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Follow the wire from the doorbell switch wires. When those move over to the Nest circuit from the Nutone circuit, the switch at the door is electrically replaced at the Nutone by the closing contacts of the relay (same idea as the IM3003 hack). Should be the same resistor and relay. You'll need to figure out how to power the old chime and the new Nest. If you share the transformer like I did, you will need to add fuses and upgrade the transformer. To validate the resistor choice, measure the voltage drop at the relay coil. Should be between 11 and 13 VAC. Mine was 12.2 VAC
      This is interesting th-cam.com/video/u5QWNmaOKdU/w-d-xo.html

  • @TapouT2TaxeS
    @TapouT2TaxeS 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could find someone in Los Angeles to do this. I have multiple Nest products installed already and really want to install the doorbell. Seem my only option might be a Ring with the battery.

  • @gradylynnholt9980
    @gradylynnholt9980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lee, it seems now that most sources for the relay you recommended are on several weeks back order for some reason. Can you suggest a replacement relay that might be easier to find? Thanks

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least it is less than the wait for a vaccine or one of my replies to the discussions :)

  • @gregromero66
    @gregromero66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know I am a little late to this post but I just connected my Nutone IM4406 into my Feit Video Doorbell Camera and it does not power on the Doorbell Camera. If I straight wire the Camera at the front door to the separate 24vac powering the camera it works fine. But when I wire in the relay I go from getting 24 thvrough the system to 5v... which is not enough to power on the camera... what could I be doing work... or do I maybe have a faulty relay?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you have the wiring all wrong. No idea how the Feit works.

  • @ein57ein
    @ein57ein 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    oi! this might be outta my league, looking to do the same but with a eufy doorbell cam

  • @JonCaveman
    @JonCaveman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two Nest home hubs that will alert us when the doorbell is pressed and the Nutone chime sounds like crap anyway . Can't I just disconnected the Nutone chime altogether so that I don't have to mess with any of this?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely. I just can’t have something in my walls that isn’t working. So the choice was integrate it or a bunch of drywall work. I chose the integration path. Thanks for posting.

    • @JonCaveman
      @JonCaveman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lee Thompson yeah I can appreciate that. I’d be the same way if I owned this place, but we’re renting. 😩

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looking at your channel. Very relevant! I have an ‘04 Tahoe that I dropped a Texas Speed 408 cid stroker motor into. Damn costech heads.... Ruined the original motor.

    • @JonCaveman
      @JonCaveman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lee Thompson awesome! I just started researching a motor swap. I want low end torque-actually looked into swapping in an 8.1 Vortec (going for overkill) but looks like that may be a lot more work than it’s worth. Next I was weighing out swapping in an LQ9 vs just building my current L59 (200k on it).

    • @JonCaveman
      @JonCaveman 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have any tips, would definitely appreciate it.

  • @phillipgrove5615
    @phillipgrove5615 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Lee - Thank you for sharing this. You are the only person I can find that got this working.
    I am ordering the parts so I can do this myself. Which relay are you using (brand and or model) - or at least what are the specs? I don't believe any random 12vac relay will work?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      See discussion thread below with Thuy Nguyen on parts. Thuy reports a working version.

    • @phillipgrove5615
      @phillipgrove5615 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much, Lee! It took a little hunting to find that specific relay, because they are out of stock everywhere... but Sager does have them in stock. www.sager.com/ly1f-ac12-138230.html

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird... maybe everyone is retrofitting their old Nutones!

    • @ThuyNguyen503
      @ThuyNguyen503 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought mine here: www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/omron/ly1f-ac12/?qs=CqvodWcFzOdfG4kiuA4Dag%3d%3d&countrycode=US¤cycode=USD
      cheaper than sager...

    • @phillipgrove5615
      @phillipgrove5615 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, again! Your tutorial was exactly what I needed. I finished getting it all hooked up yesterday and it is all working great.

  • @coolpants99
    @coolpants99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I finally got around to examining the internal circuitry of my NuTone IM4406 and it's powered by two 801 transformers. Can your instructions still apply? My technical skills are at the beginner level.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darrell Westbrook first off, these aren’t instructions. This is some dude on the internet doing something potentially really stupid. That said, maybe look into adding a third transformer which is dedicated to the Nest and the relay coil.

    • @coolpants99
      @coolpants99 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StagrLee I'm at the bread-board phase and can successfully get power to the Nest doorbell, however, when I jump the relay coil to the Nutone chime it plays in loop. Any suggestions?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      See what the voltage drop is across the relay. I’m wondering if the relay is releasing (opening back up). There is a setting in the nest on how long to “chime”. I set mine to 1 second.

  • @StagrLee
    @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting mod to the circuit using a 24VAC relay instead of a 12VAC relay as you can eliminate the resistor. I think this might work as the NuTone transforms seem to be over voltage. Mine was 19 VAC. It depends on what is going on inside the chime module. www.reddit.com/r/Nest/comments/8kekhz/nest_hello_can_work_on_an_intercom_system

  • @waynelai2540
    @waynelai2540 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are the fuses hooked onto? Is it one fuse to each wire coming off the transformer?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Two fuses come off the same transformer terminal. This isolates the Nest from the Nutone. Since the Nutone transformers are internally regulated its probably optional but I like the extra isolation this gives. Especially considering how old the Nutone base station is. If the Nutone shorts out, the Nest Doorbell will keep chugging along.

  • @tonycalabrese9315
    @tonycalabrese9315 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job!

  • @UEGxImmunity
    @UEGxImmunity 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is incredible. Would there be any changes if you want to install 2 doorbells?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You would need to find 10VA more transformer power to the 2nd Nest Hello and two relays in parallel.

    • @UEGxImmunity
      @UEGxImmunity 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lee Thompson How would I get 10VA more transformer power?
      Edit: We also have multiple intercoms throughout the house. Would the chime work through all of them if I did this?
      Forgive me, my knowledge of circuitry is limited.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry for the delayed response. As shown in the video, you just need to short circuit the two connections in the Nutone to start the chime. With one Nest, you need one relay to provide the closed (short) circuit. With two nests you would wire in two relays. My Nutone has a different tone for Front/Rear doors so the second relay would short different terminals. You’d have to figure out which one. Your other question about the power. The Nest requires 10VA. To do two, you would need 20VA. I’d probably use a 30VA Nutone transformer to power both Nests and a separate transformer to power the Nutone. The Nutone at my house needs 15VA. The power requirement depends on which Nutone you have.

  • @StagrLee
    @StagrLee  4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Northside Service Co does a deep dive on this mod. His mod is interesting if you want both your Nest and your Nutone on your front door. I went with replacement of the Nutone at the front of the house. th-cam.com/video/t6YswmDNVyI/w-d-xo.html

  • @ThuyNguyen503
    @ThuyNguyen503 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YOU ARE AMAZING!!!!
    This is exactly what I want to do with my same old ugly Nutone system. Is it possible for you to give me all the part so I can replicate what you are doing please?

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Protect yourself... Make sure you have working smoke detectors in case this goes up in smoke.
      Nutone C907 transformer
      Omron LY1F-AC12 Relay
      100 Ohm 3 Watt Resistor
      Solder/Wire/Shrink Tube
      Kyle Switch Plate SPNT6H45
      Bussman Fuses and holders from Home Depot (1 amp AC)
      Small Gap HVAC sealing tape gasket from Home Depot for the back of the new switch plate

    • @ThuyNguyen503
      @ThuyNguyen503 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Btw how did you pull out the old transformer ... the space is sooo compact. Also what did you do with speaker line from outside the house ....

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get more room by removing the intercom.. th-cam.com/video/VdiL1rOYgWc/w-d-xo.html Make sure the transformer is powered off at the main panel. The transformer bracket mount is just an L bracket of steel with one screw flush with (usually) the bottom of the rough-in box.

    • @StagrLee
      @StagrLee  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/yXA-YdNqwwU/w-d-xo.html

    • @ThuyNguyen503
      @ThuyNguyen503 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much... I got my system working with the intercom today... pretty sweet