In Finland being able to throw hyzer shots is a very rare treat. Most of our courses are in wooded areas which really forces you to play through the fairway and learn those straight shots.
I'm definitely someone who constantly focused on throwing the flat shot, because that's the only way I could reach my max distance, but I've gained an appreciation for the hyzer shot more. I mostly used hyzer to flip things up to flat, but it's still hit-or-miss if you get something to fly perfectly flat once it flips up, whereas different degrees of hyzer (slight hyzer to modest hyzer) just has less variance in terms of where it lands and how much skip.
After 3 months of playing around with my leopard starter pack. At first I thought it was a crappy cheap starter driver. Now I've realized it is a fantastic training wheels kind of disc. I'm actually looking forward to bumping up to a leopard3 same fight numbers slightly higher speed. Might get an IT... same thing higher glide. Idk. But the hyzer flip is so fun and satisfying to throw and now I'm hooked on this sport
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I've been a 'throw a level shot' type of player.....always working on getting the disc to come out level. Today, I 'gave up' and decided to not 'fight it' ....I threw with slight hyzer on my backhands and forehands. There was a big difference as my throws were more repeatable and controlable. Before watching your video, I only threw hyzer angle for two reasons.....one, I was throwing an understable disc and wanted to hyzer flip it....or two, I wanted to force a stable disc (or even an overstable disc) to fade more than it normally would. So thank you.....I'm no longer 'fighting' the disc to get it to fly level.
Thank you so much for this video, really helped my Significant other have her best day yet on the course (she’s only 7 games in) have her throwing an opto diamond, mako3, buzz, and zero moonshine pure
Wow, thanks for breaking it down... So, true story: I was in my backyard practicing upshots (throwing straight). I have a pond near my house. I threw my shot, it went roughly where I wanted and I heard "QUACK". And I thought, cut me some slack, I'm not even putting. Thanks for the lesson, saving this to my watchlist to review again really soon. You the man. Smash.
That's dope! Good on you. I'm still in the 300 club. But I'm also coming back from a 20 year hiatus. We didn't have all the tutorials when I started. I've had to unlearn a lot of bad habits 😂
That video was super insightful and helpful to my game. I'm a 99% straight line thrower which has treated me reasonably well with my driving game. Using a Lat64 Saint for almost everything works for me but your comments about why hyzers are advantageous had me rethinking my instinctive approach to just send it flat and straight. I really think mastering long distance hyzers (not my go-to) will be improving my game and saving a few strokes. Thanks!!!
I have to agree with Robbie, try to throw a hyzer every chance you get. Even if it’s a straight shot, find something that stands up for ya and finishes straight. I have three buzzz’s to attack the slightly hyzer’d to slightly anhyzer’d shots.
As you already know, my preferred shot is stable to OS discs on hyzer if I can help it. Some might even say I prefer to throw *High Hyzers* IYKYK. Great vid as always. I have a buddy I've been teaching to play for awhile now and I've been telling him to trust the reliability of throwing a hyzer for now and work on the rest later.
Thanks for reaffirming my last weeks "none-fieldwork" since I've been stuck at home. Been throwing hyzerspikes around the side of our house, probably with 40 different discs of all types, the wind and angles have been the only opponent, 100-200'. ;)
I definitely have an appreciation for hyzers since I was throwing flat and overshooting and skipping past baskets and the other people on my card were throwing hyzers wide between the trees and parking their shot. Gotta look for that hyzer line!
I naturally have gravitated back to hyzer shots but didn’t realize it was a hyzer. I don’t know if my discs are stable or unstable but this helps me get some clarity.
Good video Robbie. I remember hearing years ago, a pro saying that the hyzer is the most predictable shot. Understable is hard to predict when it starts to fade and straight shot is liable to do anything. Hyzer usually sits where it lands also
So true.. I throw both left and right backhands and at my local course it is so easy to just throw hyzers. While I watch my wife try to flex shots between trees since she only throws right hand backhand.
Hyzer and hyzerflip are the shots I need to get more comfortable with and use them more. Usually when my friends throw a hyzer on an open hole I tend to throw flat. Also instead of a hyzer flip I usually throw a disc flat and let the disc turn over, or force a stable disc over by throwing an anhyzer.
I wish I was given this advice 2 years ago. The straight line/ shortest distance possible line is all I wanted to throw. Now that I think about hyzering more it has eliminated so many more variables!
I was so scared that you were going to say the forehand anhyser. I just don’t know how to get that shot to leave my hand. I love me some hyzer though, and throwing it with either hand does make life a little easier.
Well done Mr Utube man, I meam Robbie, I will be sharing this. PS Any chance that you might be headed out to the Beaver State Fling or the Portland Open out in my neck of tge woods? Would be to meet you in person. Maybe another caddy for Brodie experience covered by the good folks out Foundation?
if i was to be driving through Birmingham what are the chances i could get to play a few holes with the legendary Robbie C...lets say on 6/9/23 or 6/10/23
Genuinely curious. You say that a hyzer is more accurate because less variables. It seems to me that there are more variables added with the curve of the disc in a hyzer rather than as straight shot. They both need to be thrown in the correct direction, you will just miss the hyzer left or right, as opposed to forward or back for the straight shot. Is it possible that you and other disc golfers prefer hyzers to straight shots in no wind mid range distances like this because - you aren't used to throwing straight shots? I can see preferring hyzers if there is wind or it's up or downhill and you don't know how exactly the disc is going to behave. I ask because I'm a beginner who can lazer my straight shots with my 5,5,0,0 mid range, but am bad at all anhyzer or hyzer shots.
the hyzer has less variables because you know it's going to finish to one side. This decreases the margin of error as he showed in comparison to a straight shot. It' gets even more reliable in wind. The main point is that it is going to finish a certain way consistently and not flip over and end up who knows where.
I see Robbie doesn’t play in NC. 😂 Seriously, the idea “just throw the hyzer” only works on courses that let you throw a hyzer on every shot. Not every place has those kinds of courses.
@@RobbieCDiscgolf No doubt the hyzerflip is the most seductive shot in disc golf. So satisfying. But, wouldn't you agree that it requires both enough power and good control of nose angle? Those seem like two things that beginners can struggle with the most. Obliviously everyone starts from a different place, so YMMV, etc.
I disagree. Well I agree that hyzer is the most reliable throw, but flat shot is not the hardest. I've been plying over 20 years and flat shot is ease for me. You just have to find a a correct disc for your armspeed and throw it flat. Not the easiest thing, but not the hardest either. By far the hardest shot is controlled long gliding anhyzer because it is the opposite of the natural hyzer. You could also call it the most unnatural shot in disc golf. For this shot to work like you want it to, you have to have: 1. Just the right stability dics for the intended throw 2. Just the right armspeed for the intended throw and disc. 3. Just the right angle for the disc and armspeed you are using. 4. Just the right height or it will stall or crash and burn. 5. And for gods sake keep the nose down for this or all is lost!!! So for anhyzer to do what you want you have to have EVERYTHING dialed in. With hyzer you can mess up many things and it will still work pretty well. With flat shot you must have more things in place but it will forgive few variables. With anhyzer you have to have everything just right, or the throw will not do what you wanted. Even pros have hard time with this shot and you see that many times the anhyzer will, even for them, fade too early or turn to roller which means one or more of the above checklist items were not perfect.
Lol! Learn the hyper shot. In next week’s episode, this guy will teach the importance of learning to throw with your hands, instead of your feet like most pros.
I am having a good day! Kinda freaked me out for a sec though. Had me thinking I was dreaming Hahahah
Nathan here and yes I am having a good day thanks for asking 😊
In Finland being able to throw hyzer shots is a very rare treat. Most of our courses are in wooded areas which really forces you to play through the fairway and learn those straight shots.
I'm having a great day!! Thanks for asking Robbie.
I’m doing great Robbie!! Thanks for asking😊
Great beginner video! Wonderful to have an expert tell them
I am green2discgolf, I am learning. I have been practicing the flat straight shot and doing ok. Now I will try this hyzer approach. Thanks
I'm definitely someone who constantly focused on throwing the flat shot, because that's the only way I could reach my max distance, but I've gained an appreciation for the hyzer shot more. I mostly used hyzer to flip things up to flat, but it's still hit-or-miss if you get something to fly perfectly flat once it flips up, whereas different degrees of hyzer (slight hyzer to modest hyzer) just has less variance in terms of where it lands and how much skip.
After 3 months of playing around with my leopard starter pack. At first I thought it was a crappy cheap starter driver. Now I've realized it is a fantastic training wheels kind of disc. I'm actually looking forward to bumping up to a leopard3 same fight numbers slightly higher speed. Might get an IT... same thing higher glide. Idk. But the hyzer flip is so fun and satisfying to throw and now I'm hooked on this sport
Awesome vid. Take the finesse out, reduce the variables, decrease the margin of error and..throw the hyzer.
one of the best teachers on youtube thanks bro!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I've been a 'throw a level shot' type of player.....always working on getting the disc to come out level. Today, I 'gave up' and decided to not 'fight it' ....I threw with slight hyzer on my backhands and forehands. There was a big difference as my throws were more repeatable and controlable. Before watching your video, I only threw hyzer angle for two reasons.....one, I was throwing an understable disc and wanted to hyzer flip it....or two, I wanted to force a stable disc (or even an overstable disc) to fade more than it normally would. So thank you.....I'm no longer 'fighting' the disc to get it to fly level.
Great video. It’s my third year playing and this is a good reminder.
I needed to hear this. All these form videos getting in my head. Flat shots fighting me in the wind. Getting mad. Nah. Bro. Hyzer and have fun. Nice.
The biggest issue is when my flat ones gets a tad anhyzer in a headwind, relearning almost all of my discs on slight hyzers for this reason. :P
Thank you so much for this video, really helped my Significant other have her best day yet on the course (she’s only 7 games in) have her throwing an opto diamond, mako3, buzz, and zero moonshine pure
Thanks for the shout out Robbie!
Wish I could give more than one thumbs up - I love how clear and concise your explanations are. Just great teaching.
Man I miss playing that course. Good info Robbie.
Such a great teacher. Thanks Robbie
That legit freaked me out 😂
Wow, thanks for breaking it down... So, true story: I was in my backyard practicing upshots (throwing straight). I have a pond near my house. I threw my shot, it went roughly where I wanted and I heard "QUACK". And I thought, cut me some slack, I'm not even putting. Thanks for the lesson, saving this to my watchlist to review again really soon. You the man. Smash.
YES! On this hole specifically, I throw a fairway high and right and let it fade to the basket. It’s an easy, predictable, low error throw.
❤ not bad shot even thanks to some bogies negating my birdies and here to try to fix that.
Great video Robbie! Finally broke 400' yesterday with all of your help! super excited to see where I can get fomr here!
That's dope! Good on you. I'm still in the 300 club. But I'm also coming back from a 20 year hiatus. We didn't have all the tutorials when I started. I've had to unlearn a lot of bad habits 😂
That video was super insightful and helpful to my game. I'm a 99% straight line thrower which has treated me reasonably well with my driving game. Using a Lat64 Saint for almost everything works for me but your comments about why hyzers are advantageous had me rethinking my instinctive approach to just send it flat and straight. I really think mastering long distance hyzers (not my go-to) will be improving my game and saving a few strokes. Thanks!!!
Great video. Love my Hyzer approach shots.
I have to agree with Robbie, try to throw a hyzer every chance you get. Even if it’s a straight shot, find something that stands up for ya and finishes straight. I have three buzzz’s to attack the slightly hyzer’d to slightly anhyzer’d shots.
Robbie, I am having a wonderful day thank you for asking, and thanks for the fantastic content.
I agree..been actually doing this my last few rounds...it does help!❤
As you already know, my preferred shot is stable to OS discs on hyzer if I can help it. Some might even say I prefer to throw *High Hyzers* IYKYK. Great vid as always. I have a buddy I've been teaching to play for awhile now and I've been telling him to trust the reliability of throwing a hyzer for now and work on the rest later.
Thanks for reaffirming my last weeks "none-fieldwork" since I've been stuck at home. Been throwing hyzerspikes around the side of our house, probably with 40 different discs of all types, the wind and angles have been the only opponent, 100-200'. ;)
I definitely have an appreciation for hyzers since I was throwing flat and overshooting and skipping past baskets and the other people on my card were throwing hyzers wide between the trees and parking their shot. Gotta look for that hyzer line!
Great Video !
Definitely helped my forehand starting just throwing on hyzer. Got me to control the nose angle better. No more nose up!
Excellent!
Another great video Robbie. Keep them coming, as a newer player these are very helpful
As always,great video mr. TH-cam man, lol. The hyzer-flip totally changed my game.
Great video. ❤
I would love a video on how an under stable disc can act more stable when thrown with height.
More juice, the more it will stand and flip!
Check out hyzer flip. Similar idea but spread the flip out as it fight the elevation.
Will be sharing this with some of my beginner friends! Learning how discs fly is enough experience to level up.
I naturally have gravitated back to hyzer shots but didn’t realize it was a hyzer. I don’t know if my discs are stable or unstable but this helps me get some clarity.
Love ya Robbie!
I’m doing great Robbie!
You are so good at explaining things, thank you!! If you teach me how to throw without dislocating my shoulder I’d cry tears of joy
Good video Robbie. I remember hearing years ago, a pro saying that the hyzer is the most predictable shot. Understable is hard to predict when it starts to fade and straight shot is liable to do anything. Hyzer usually sits where it lands also
So true.. I throw both left and right backhands and at my local course it is so easy to just throw hyzers. While I watch my wife try to flex shots between trees since she only throws right hand backhand.
Great video "Mr. TH-cam Man" Sometimes it's hard to resist that disc you think you can just throw straight at the basket.
Hyzer and hyzerflip are the shots I need to get more comfortable with and use them more. Usually when my friends throw a hyzer on an open hole I tend to throw flat. Also instead of a hyzer flip I usually throw a disc flat and let the disc turn over, or force a stable disc over by throwing an anhyzer.
Back to basics. I’m in a rut . Starting over. Again😩
Hole 4 at GW is such an easy righty hole. I throw lefty but throw that hole hyzer righty
Nice war pig at 8:41 !!!
All the Nate’s in the chat today!
You know it
I must have missed something… Who is Nathan?
I wish I was given this advice 2 years ago. The straight line/ shortest distance possible line is all I wanted to throw. Now that I think about hyzering more it has eliminated so many more variables!
Am i the only one who saw the actual basket the first time after the 3rd Shot and thought before Robbie talked about the basket on the left?
I was so scared that you were going to say the forehand anhyser. I just don’t know how to get that shot to leave my hand. I love me some hyzer though, and throwing it with either hand does make life a little easier.
Well done Mr Utube man, I meam Robbie, I will be sharing this.
PS Any chance that you might be headed out to the Beaver State Fling or the Portland Open out in my neck of tge woods? Would be to meet you in person. Maybe another caddy for Brodie experience covered by the good folks out Foundation?
When are the “hey Mr. YT Man” merch one of my favorite sayings
Now I better see the value of the hyzer shot... Been trying to avoid them earlier
Ok are we going to roll over the part where he said my name???!!! Is this something you do Robbie C? I'm great btw. How are you?
I cant wait for Robbie to see how I'm doing
You get these show notes from Aaron Gossage?
How are you today Robbie
Taught myself lefty just so I can throw more hyzers
7:30 *quack!
That intro freaked me out for a second
if i was to be driving through Birmingham what are the chances i could get to play a few holes with the legendary Robbie C...lets say on 6/9/23 or 6/10/23
14:10 How did Robbie know that I just shared this with someone?
Genuinely curious. You say that a hyzer is more accurate because less variables. It seems to me that there are more variables added with the curve of the disc in a hyzer rather than as straight shot. They both need to be thrown in the correct direction, you will just miss the hyzer left or right, as opposed to forward or back for the straight shot.
Is it possible that you and other disc golfers prefer hyzers to straight shots in no wind mid range distances like this because - you aren't used to throwing straight shots? I can see preferring hyzers if there is wind or it's up or downhill and you don't know how exactly the disc is going to behave.
I ask because I'm a beginner who can lazer my straight shots with my 5,5,0,0 mid range, but am bad at all anhyzer or hyzer shots.
the hyzer has less variables because you know it's going to finish to one side. This decreases the margin of error as he showed in comparison to a straight shot. It' gets even more reliable in wind. The main point is that it is going to finish a certain way consistently and not flip over and end up who knows where.
Who else just watched the dog at 7:55?
Does Larry know you're wearing his shirt?
Hip to nip hyzer... Nip to nip flat
Now I just wish I knew what the numbers on the disk mean. I know they tell you distance but the rest makes no sense
I see Robbie doesn’t play in NC. 😂
Seriously, the idea “just throw the hyzer” only works on courses that let you throw a hyzer on every shot. Not every place has those kinds of courses.
That’s where the hyzerflip portion for the last 1/4th of the video comes in 🤣🤣
@@RobbieCDiscgolf No doubt the hyzerflip is the most seductive shot in disc golf. So satisfying.
But, wouldn't you agree that it requires both enough power and good control of nose angle? Those seem like two things that beginners can struggle with the most. Obliviously everyone starts from a different place, so YMMV, etc.
no, it works on courses where they let you throw a hyzer one some shots, too.
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I disagree. Well I agree that hyzer is the most reliable throw, but flat shot is not the hardest.
I've been plying over 20 years and flat shot is ease for me. You just have to find a a correct disc for your armspeed and throw it flat. Not the easiest thing, but not the hardest either.
By far the hardest shot is controlled long gliding anhyzer because it is the opposite of the natural hyzer. You could also call it the most unnatural shot in disc golf. For this shot to work like you want it to, you have to have:
1. Just the right stability dics for the intended throw
2. Just the right armspeed for the intended throw and disc.
3. Just the right angle for the disc and armspeed you are using.
4. Just the right height or it will stall or crash and burn.
5. And for gods sake keep the nose down for this or all is lost!!!
So for anhyzer to do what you want you have to have EVERYTHING dialed in.
With hyzer you can mess up many things and it will still work pretty well.
With flat shot you must have more things in place but it will forgive few variables.
With anhyzer you have to have everything just right, or the throw will not do what you wanted.
Even pros have hard time with this shot and you see that many times the anhyzer will, even for them, fade too early or turn to roller which means one or more of the above checklist items were not perfect.
First? Nice.
you got my name wrong
Lol! Learn the hyper shot. In next week’s episode, this guy will teach the importance of learning to throw with your hands, instead of your feet like most pros.
foot fault
I discovered if I want to score better, I simply have to play better.