First time watching You've Got Mail - Man do I feel bad for Kathleen in this movie. Joe is a creep!

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  • @serenecatweather5694
    @serenecatweather5694 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am 18 and I love love love this movie! I have since I was 15! I am a big fan of 90s romcoms and I thought this movie was so sweet and cozy. And absolutely nerve-wracking. Movies from this time have such a charm to them, I cannot begin to explain it! The old tech makes me feel nostalgic, even though I never really experienced it. The closest thing I’ve used was my school computer, which used the same system as the old internet lmao. I also adore Tom xD Thank you for reacting to this movie; it makes me feel as if I’m watching it with a friend- admittedly, none of my friends wanted to watch it with me haha

    • @AdamfromFWCI
      @AdamfromFWCI  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats a really sweet message! Thankyou! I'm glad you had fun watching along my nonsense, I have done a bunch of other romance movies, i hope you can check them out.
      Also Double Jeopardy is coming in a couple of weeks, so if you haven't seen that one yet, this is your heads up lol

    • @serenecatweather5694
      @serenecatweather5694 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdamfromFWCI awesome, thank you for letting me know ^^ I definitely will check out some of your other reactions seeing as your commentary to this was quite enjoyable! If you haven’t watched it already, I’d like to recommend my favorite romance movie ‘The Silence of the Sea (2004)’. You don’t have to react to it, but I purely recommend it because of the sweet way romance is portrayed between the two main characters. Barely a word is exchanged between the two yet the effect is quite fascinating! Thank you again for such a pleasant video :3

  • @kateorgera5907
    @kateorgera5907 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As promised in your Ted Lasso reaction, my defense of You've Got Mail:
    Yes, Joe finds out about Kathleen before Kathleen finds out about Joe. Yes, he withholds information from her while trying to get closer to her. But a big part of the reason why I'm okay with this is that I read this as Joe trying to protect Kathleen, not manipulate her.
    Joe's heart absolutely shattered when he realized the girl he had fallen in love with online was also the girl who had judged him before getting to know him, who insulted him on live television. He reacts in a very toxic way, and he hurts Kathleen out of spite. And he immediately regrets it.
    Telling Kathleen he's NY152 right away would not have solved anything. It would probably hurt her even worse, at least in the immediate aftermath of the cafe meeting. Kathleen has built up this image of NY152 as a deep, intelligent, funny person who could never hurt anyone. Just as Joe built up this image of ShopGirl as this perfect creature who could do no wrong. As hurt as Kathleen was in the cafe when NY152 didn't show up and Joe Fox did, I think it would have been so much worse had Joe revealed who he was out of spite. Because that robs her of "the dream of someone else", as she tells Frank in a later scene.
    Joe, in courting Kathleen, is trying to ease her into the idea that maybe NY152 is not as perfect as he seems online. And that maybe Joe Fox can be "just Joe", the guy she met at the bookshop that first day. He is planning to tell her, indicated by him saying "we should meet, and we WILL meet". But he also meets Kathleen as a friend, trying to get to know her outside of the internet and outside of their competition. He wants her to have a better experience than he had. Because she's been hurt enough by his bluntness.
    And yes, maybe part of this is self protective. Maybe he doesn't want Kathleen to reject him as a whole person, now that she's already rejected Joe Fox. And when she starts sobbing von seeing him,I think he fears the worst. He thinks he's hurt her again. Until she says, "I wanted it to be you"
    I mean, just look at what Joe grew up with: his father and grandfather were examples of toxic, money-obsessed masculinity, and he had no permanent mother figure between all of his father's marriages. The fact that he is as ultimately good-hearted as he is in spite of this says a lot about his character, with Joe Fox the facade he had to put on to grow up in that family. ShopGirl is the outlet for the real Joe, but Kathleen helps him throw off Joe Fox once and for all.

    • @AdamfromFWCI
      @AdamfromFWCI  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That makes a lot sense lol. I can definitely see everything you point out there, and they do a lot to show Joe as a quality dude.
      I think it was hard for me to see that the first time because I put myself in the characters shoes and I'm way more direct and accountable when I've had conversations that neither person wants to have.
      But I'm glad you shared all of this, it's a great insite. We shall see if it gives me a different outlook when I watch Ever After this week lol

    • @fayesouthall6604
      @fayesouthall6604 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is a fantastic reply

    • @joeypotter6051
      @joeypotter6051 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdamfromFWCI Ooh yay I love Ever After!

    • @ladyfoxreader1608
      @ladyfoxreader1608 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You put it perfectly❤ thank you very much

  • @Melissa-wx4lu
    @Melissa-wx4lu ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I admit, this is one of my top five favorite movies of all time. I will put it on when I'm sick or having a bad day. I love books, and I'm a writer. I love hanging out in bookstores and Kathleen's Shop was like the perfect fantasy bookshop. One that I would have stopped by every day on my way home.
    Sappy story alert....
    And, I met my husband online. We were introduced by a mutual friend online. This was back when you had to pay for every text message on your phone and he didn't have a cell phone anyways so we stuck to Instant Messaging. We chatted every day, sometimes hours a day. How our day was, what we did, about a movie we were watching while we were chatting, family, and school. We would play online games together, and help each other with homework. a few months into this we started voice chatting, which was much quicker, but less private as we still lived at home and we both had little siblings and we sometimes talked about deep, personal things other family members didn't need to know. lots of mental health issues for both of us. (He was a senior in high school and I had just graduated a few months prior.) Long story short. We chatted online for about 6 months before we met in person. He lived a 2 hour drive away. It was instant love for both of us. We had never seen each other before but we knew each other so well. All those months of talking online had taken the place of traditional courtship I guess. 5-6 months after meeting, he moved into my town to go to college.
    In September we will have been together 20 years. And we are still so perfect for each other.
    So yeah, this movie will always hold a special place in my heart.

  • @sajithks97
    @sajithks97 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The reason tom hanks did all that towards the second half is to make her fall for the real him. If he wanted to manipulate her, then he could have done something to keep her shop running. But he was true to his character. He let the closure run its course, complete the reason for which she hated him. And later, showed his true self to Meg and she fell for the real him. Makes sense to me.

  • @kateorgera5907
    @kateorgera5907 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Also, man, this movie just has all of my favorite things: New York, Jane Austen references, children's bookstores, golden retrievers, secret identity love plots, witty ladies. The only thing it's missing is magic, and it honestly doesn't even need it. The closed bookstore scene often makes me just tear up, and the music gives the film this timeless feel in spite of the obviously dated tech.
    Fun fact: Shop Around the Corner is based on the real Books of Wonder, which still exists! They have a website you can order from and everything!

  • @Nurseelphie86
    @Nurseelphie86 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Love that you are watching this movie! This is actually a modern version of an old stage play that got turned into a movie starring Jimmy Stewart ("The Shop Around the Corner) as well as a musical ("She Loves Me"). I highly recommend the original movie.

    • @TheCrayonMaster
      @TheCrayonMaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!!! Love The Shop Around the Corner!

  • @chrisbullard5901
    @chrisbullard5901 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only thing I hate about this movie: why doesn’t Joe ever have the business sense to realize he can “have his cake and eat it, too”.
    Fox Books has the distribution and buying power to offer these smaller bookstores better bulk pricing and smarter inventory management, making them more successful.
    Instead of defeating Kathleen, Joe offers a lucrative franchise deal, where her anchor to the community still stays running, but is now backed as a Fox Books independent franchise store rather than a corporate location. They keep their name, keep their “quirky” 90s ensemble, and just have to follow some basic contract requirements to uphold the same sort of quality that Kathleen already wants to do.
    Head on competition isn’t always the best strategy for business.

    • @robertlombardo8437
      @robertlombardo8437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is my headcanon following the end of the movie to be honest. Or at least that Joe gets that idea going forward. He has already hired George, which shows he's open to finding talent among his critics. So, whether Kathleen decides to go back to running the shop as a franchise or pursues her children's literature career, she will have changed Joe for the better.

  • @gavinblair9476
    @gavinblair9476 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    21 years old I love this movie it’s my go to

  • @frozenharold
    @frozenharold ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Remember the homage to this in Ted Lasso when Rebecca and Sam were texting each other anonymously over Bantr and Rebecca was Bossgirl and Sam was LDN152

  • @evergreenforestwitch
    @evergreenforestwitch ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1) I genuinely LOLd at the montage music, so well played
    2) it disturbs me you have Bellatrix LeStrange in your intro - she's so scary! Slytherins....
    3) I was 19 when this came put. Tom.Hanks is ordinary looking - he's never been known as a looker tbh. But he has maxed out charisma. He's just *likable* and honestly, much more representative of what women actually want than the hunks in most rom coms. Nora Ephron directed/wrote this as well as Sleepless in Seattle.with both Meg and Tom. So good. She also wrote When Harry Met Sally. Her dialogue was always fantastic.
    Great reaction!
    Edit/addition: yes, romcoms are RIDICULOUSLY sexist and manipulative. As it turns out, it's very difficult to use a romantic relationship as the main plot of a story without adding in tropes like bets, withholding information, mistaken identities etc in order for them to work. The cringe is strong on rewatch many times. I do think Tom's charisma masks his duplicitous behavior.

    • @AdamfromFWCI
      @AdamfromFWCI  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hanks is the man, by Joe Fox is the worst lol.
      Glad you enjoyed the video! Ever After is coming in a few weeks too

  • @alinac5512
    @alinac5512 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im 24 and watching this reaction. I find it charming.

  • @fayesouthall6604
    @fayesouthall6604 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sleepless In Seattle is a better film. I do like the bit when she is in the children’s department and a customer asks an assistant about books and he knows nothing.she knows it. Her emotions are beautiful.

    • @joeypotter6051
      @joeypotter6051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's my favourite scene. And I agree, Sleepless in Seattle is far superior to this.

  • @cog4life
    @cog4life 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got to be a reason why this movie is INCREDIBLY POPULAR and has been for decades. A gazillion people can’t be wrong. ❤😊

  • @raymeedc
    @raymeedc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a remake of the more charming original, “Shop Around The Corner” with James Stewart 👌

  • @carimay3461
    @carimay3461 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You had asked if this is maybe a Pride and Prejudice remake when he meets her when she is waiting for him with her book and rose. Although I can see the comparison, I think it's more similar to another movie. This is very similar to an old Judy Garland movie, "In the Good Old Summertime". Same thing is happening. The two are anonymous pen pals who end up working together. Just like you've got mail, they hate each other irl. They even have a meet up. The meet up here in you've got mail is a carbon copy of the Judy Garland meet up.

  • @alickrozier3799
    @alickrozier3799 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A Nude picture would`ve taken a few days to download back in those days.

  • @rach3666
    @rach3666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do rom coms, how to lose a guy in 10 days, 10 things I hate about you. X

  • @robertlombardo8437
    @robertlombardo8437 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Lord. It took me... SO LONG... to realize that Annabel and Matt aren't joking about their relationship to Joe. They are legitimately the younger children of his father and grandfather's later relationships, making them his half-aunt and half-brother. And the only reason you know that is because of a series of throwaway lines in his family subplot. I thought for decades that they were his children.

  • @DaniG-ex3vf
    @DaniG-ex3vf ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God, I miss Nora Ephron. She was an incredibly talent person.

  • @marybethloup9853
    @marybethloup9853 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah, Ted Lasso was right: Sleepless in Seattle was a much better movie. Please react to that one. Thanks for this one.

  • @americanfreedomlogistics9984
    @americanfreedomlogistics9984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Instant messaging. they did this starting
    with AOL cartoons and AOL instant messaging

  • @americanfreedomlogistics9984
    @americanfreedomlogistics9984 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i do have some sympathy for Kathleen but this is what happens in the world if capitalism

  • @grindlebone
    @grindlebone ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dude, the Jimmy Stewart 'The Shop Around the Corner' is FAR superior, noticeably in that the lady love interest doesn't get screwed over by the male lead.

  • @Charharr
    @Charharr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay, my vote for next girly film to watch is Legally Blonde! I loved that movie as a tweenager, and I feel it's mostly held up very well into modern day, unlike most other chick-flicks and rom-coms.

  • @stackels97
    @stackels97 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn straight, Meg does look gorgeous in this movie. And they both nailed the subtle cheesy comedy perfectly.
    I've always wished that the ending has one more beat though. She should have been mad, left, he'd have to make it up to her and THEN they get together.
    Or, if theyd shown that she had started to figure out that he was the email guy before they met, it would have given her some more agency at the end.

    • @AdamfromFWCI
      @AdamfromFWCI  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think if Kathleen figured it out herself it would have been a much more satisfying ending.
      But I agree the ending is missing something.

    • @kateorgera5907
      @kateorgera5907 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think she DID start to figure it out. Remember when he held a finger to her lips to stop her from saying something she would regret in the daisies scene? That was a reference to once of her messages to NY152, when she was saying how much she regretted being horrible to Joe at the cafe. The look on her face screams to me, at least, a strong feeling of deja vu. That's why she says, "I wanted it to be you" - because she had started to guess, the more she hung out with the real Joe, that he and NY152 might be the same person, but she couldn't be sure. One more beat to make this clearer wouldn't have hurt, though.

    • @stackels97
      @stackels97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kateorgera5907 I've watched it more times than I'd like to admit, and even took myself around NYC to find the filming locations, and had never considered that, that was what was happening in that moment, but, you know what!? Consider me converted. Love that interpretation!!

  • @theirishslyeyes
    @theirishslyeyes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the appeal of Tom Hanks as a leading man is that he *does* look like an average guy.
    Not every guy is (insert name of whatever heartthrob is out there right now) but Tom Hanks is the average guy-next-door type.
    And personally, I go for that type 100% of the time over the heartthrobs. 😂

    • @AdamfromFWCI
      @AdamfromFWCI  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You just reminded me of an nba player called Nicola Jokic, he's an amazing player but his nickname is the DadBod God lol.
      But your right, Hanks has an intangible charisma

  • @oliviarogers2808
    @oliviarogers2808 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm gonna be 25 in May.

  • @dcharvetto
    @dcharvetto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh My God...watch The Godfather...please

  • @SunShine-qk4rb
    @SunShine-qk4rb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @just_me_melanie
    @just_me_melanie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you are so funny!

    • @AdamfromFWCI
      @AdamfromFWCI  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have great taste

    • @just_me_melanie
      @just_me_melanie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdamfromFWCI 😄