Thanks Dan for posting! I built one loosely following your directions but including a short carbon fiber spar as the stiffener inside tubular webbing, but the thing works like a charm and I wear it all day without a thought; nothing to do but connect my rope whenever I need it. Super slick!
Just want to say that I made one for myself about a year ago now and this is the best thing I've added to my setup since I started climbing. I use it every time I climb without spikes. Thank you so much for sharing this, Dan.
Thanks incredible to hear. I’m exactly the same, I put it on for every climb and don’t take it off until I get in the truck to leave. Can you email me pictures of your ascender mail@climbingarborist.com I’d love to see it.
That looks interesting to say the least. Would love to get closeups of this design of yours if you don’t mind so I can reproduce it. I have the suppliers/materials for it and would like to build it. Waiting for that video when you are ready :)
really beautiful!! it seems really good I was looking for something like that !! Do you also produce them for other people? or could you make a video where you show the various steps? thanks for the informations!!
Hey Dan, awesome creation there. Is there any way to get an in depth on how to build this? I’m a beginner to intermediate climber and this would help me out a ton
I have been thinking a lot about your invention and I appreciate your generosity in sharing it. I was wondering how you attached the velcro to the ascender that allows it to pivot. I would love to see a close-up as another person below has also mentioned. I truly appreciate your work. Safe climbing and blessings to you.
I looking at that and seeing a climbing gaff/spike without the spike, extended maybe a little higher than normal and with an ascender attached. Very nice job.
I see some people leaving regular knee ascenders on all the time too. Not as streamlined as a non-bungee version though. I like the pivoting on yours, the systeme 3A (similar to yours) doesn't seem to have that, but I believe somebody won a comp with one.
I love the fact that it stays attached to the leg and is not flopping around. The only downside I can see is that you have to take baby steps instead of longer strides as with a saka. Great thinking Dan.
Is there a way for you to share some closeup/detailed photos of your assembly stitch points, especially on the Pantin attachment area? Or maybe a short 1-minute video showing closeups of your stitching throughout?
I can just see it now; Notch is previewing the release of their latest innovation on the knee ascender due to be released on Sherill and Treestuff Fall 2019!
Hi Dan, I've been following your videos since long time...Excellent job! Very informative and educational! I'm about to build something like your knee ascender. Here's one question: I have a Pantin for the right foot that I would like to use for my left knee with your system. You think I would't have any problem with that or it is stricly necessary to wear a left Pantin mounted on the knee ascender of my left leg? Just to avoid buying another one and maybe using the one that I already have. What do you reckon? Have you experimented also with other ascenders? Any suggestions? I'm afraid the Pantin has that kick back rope slippage problem and that's why I turned into a CT quick step foot ascender. Thank you...
Nice job! I want to make my own Knee ascender like you. Could you give me a hint for the materials inside that it makes firm itself. And What was the pants you wore?
Thanks for sharing your design. I hope something positive for you comes of this as you have discovered the complexities and frustrations of patent/manufacturing. I personally suggest that you don’t worry about patent/copyright and do what has been done with the BulldogBone device. It’s not a life support device, so I say make some and sell them. There’s plenty of guys that would purchase them. Have people sign a release of liability to purchase. You might be surprised how many people will want one. Thanks again.
Climbing Arborist Especially if you put a kit together that allows the operator to use his or her own ascender or have the option to purchase one through you, that would be a big game changer. I’d say almost all of us have a chest ascender or a flat ascender like the SAKA/SAKA mini uses that we aren’t using. I know I have two of them. If you sold your set up all ready to go and all I had to do was attach my ascender, I’d buy one in a heart beat. I would also buy the whole shebang from you if the ascender was one of the Notch Jet Step foot ascenders mounted as a knee ascender!!
I would like to make one of these and was wondering if you have any updates since this video is 3 years old. So you still like the Pantin or is there a better foot ascender option? I was looking at the CT ascender that locks in the rope. Any experience with that, or should I stick with the original non locking Pantin? Thanks for the great idea and any pointers before I start making one would be much appreciated.
Outstanding! I was monkeying around with this concept, and tried just strapping an ascender below my knee, but the strap cut into the soft tissue below my knee and was too painful. Running support down to the foot is the key. Well done! Have you considered finding a plastic swivel mechanism to attach the ascender to, that you could then rivet to the leg strap? Love seeing new ideas. Thanks.
I think the strap on your version must have been a little to high, I've played around with it and when it is really close to the knee it isn't comfortable. I have been playing with a new ascender and a pivoting mechanism, we shall see how that works out
That's a great idea, I think it's a job for aluminium. I know it wouldn't be as comfortable, but it'd work a ton better. Not a hunk of aluminium like a gaff leg. Just a tidy bar, maybe with a ridge up the middle to prevent any bending. The same thickness material as the pantin is made from, about 3mm. A real development would be a specially made ascender to go on the end. With the bar locating in a round hole at the top, to act as the pushing pivot. And an ark/semicircle slot at the bottom of the ascender, through which, a support stud passes to allow the standing force to be applied efficiently and load the ascender correctly. OR... here's an afterthought idea... one central hole in the ascender body for pushing, rotating, and loading ! The long and short is, you need to approach DMM, and develop the idea with them. It's not really the strap so much as the actual pantin. The idea is great. Great idea though, top marks ! I'm now going through eBay for cheap chinese parts that I can chop up to make one 🤪
I made mine and love it if you can get ahold of me do you have a Patton on this a lot of guys at work want one so do you have a problem with me making these ?
You're a damn good arborist and a damn good man to give your comrades advice and ingenious ways to save energy and time by using a clever little design like the one you thought up here. Nice work. Thanks for sharing! Btw...Ive studied splicing and sail stitching from nautical books. Im sewing my own eyeslets splicing my own loops and webbing. You'd probably like and make good use of the sailing literature.:^)
I know you said you don't have the other knee ascenders, but I have a Haas that has the spliced footloose and it's fraying bad. Think the ascender off of that would work well for this?
Typically, if you're right handed, your left leg will be stronger. Think about it like jumping. If you're trying to get as much vertical travel as you possibly can, you'll jump extending your dominant hand upwards. And, doing so, you're left foot will leave the ground last. So as to extend your body diagonally, for maximum reach. So, it makes complete sense to use a foot ascender on whichever foot is opposite to your dominant hand. Personally, my favorite knee ascender is the original SAKA. But thanks to a patent held by Weaver, its barred from sale. I was lucky enough to find one on Amazon, of all places, for the two weeks they were available there..
Awesome work bud :) next Kevin Bingham right there ;) cracking idea, if you do get the chance to sell commercially I’d definitely add it to the wish list ;) good stuff :)
No one can be compared to Kevin Bingham, his creations are genius. This is pretty simple stuff. I will continue to tinker, I have a few other ascenders and attachments I want to try so I may get someone to make it, although its tricky with the sizing for different people
Climbing Arborist yeah I imagine it would be :) anyway man I’ve been a fan for a while and watched a lot of your stuff, and it’s been very helpful for me :) big respect :)
Why don't you contact August at Monkey Beaver about making these ascender straps?I've see him sewing his products.Perhaps some type of swivel or rivet would safely connect ascender and allow movement.Thanks for all of your great videos,I've learned a lot.
I’ve got to be honest, the explanation was helpful but still a bit too vague, you need a close up overhead shot of the ascender as your explaining, from what I gathered from your explanation is some webbing, some tubing and an ascender attached loosely somehow to it all. I’m super interested. But I need a bit more detail
Thanks for sharing! Definitely noticed it in your work climb video in NZ. Actually got me to thinking I could put my stiff tether to use as a stiff leg tether for my knee ascender and add velcro straps somehow?? That is about as far as I got. Thanks for showing us a superior design. Always enjoy me some climbing arborist👍
@@ClimbingArborist i was just wondering if i could mod my bungee-based knee ascender into your design, or would it be better to build it from scratch as you have.
I was wondering how to ascend with both legs without crossing ascenders or clipping/unclipping. The solution was simple - just mount one higher up on a device like this!
Life is better when we share and help others to be safe, I am sure I will be using this method as soon as I am able to sort one out. Unfortunately I was a passenger in a head on collision six weeks ago and I am still in casts on wrist and broke my sternum on the seat belt. Typical I get hurt not from being in a tree but in a car I had no control of. Good luck in all you do ! Thanks again Garry from England
Is there a reason you don't use an autolocking ascender other than compatibility with the ability to attach it in a way that allows rotation? This is an invention that reduces the need to take things on and off, so I'd think eliminating the need for those locking carabiners (regardless of how fast you are with them) would be beneficial, no?
If you see on the version on the desk and the version in the work climb and rescue comp it has an auto locking mechanism, just the first version didn't
I want to make one with the CT simple cause its nice and compact and lays flatter than most of the other chest ascenders. The one I have right now I just threw together with a Kong chest ascender, the loop end of a ratchet strap with a strap adjustment to change the length easily and a doubled piece of shock cord over the shoulder hooked to my saddle. It works for getting in the tree but kind of annoying having to take it off everytime then finding a place to keep it. Usually just shove it in my little throw line pouch lol this looks like a much better design though.
No, Ive not made a commercial product, there are a lot of variable so its not as simple as you'd think. We are still tinkering though so maybe we'll have one for the market.
Indeed, something to think about I suppose. I have the Haas Velox and it's main draw back is one has to take it off to work the tree. I might get some heavy duty velcro and manufacture a calf strap or maybe two. Srt has some big advantages over Mrs but that said it isn't a silver bullet either. Happy Christmas, 👍 😁 🎅
Nice job! I figured as soon as I saw it that it would be as you said, doesn't quite get the step as some of the others. I would think the convenience of it will make up for that. Can you use it in conjunction with spur's?
Cheers bro, with the new one I made I get a longer stride but probably still not quite as long as the other. I don't think you would want to use it with spurs if you already had a spikecender as you would most likely spike yourself in the legs
All these type of cam ascenders are designed for this purpose, if they damaged the ropes they wouldn't be allowed in tree work, rope access, search and rescue etc
Yes, I’ve tried the SAKA mini as the original is no longer available. I hate the whole bunny part of those type of knee ascenders and I couldn’t get the ascender to recoil well enough for a consistent stride. I’m not saying it’s a bad device but it’s only ever used for the initial ascent and then is taken off.
Thanks Dan for posting! I built one loosely following your directions but including a short carbon fiber spar as the stiffener inside tubular webbing, but the thing works like a charm and I wear it all day without a thought; nothing to do but connect my rope whenever I need it. Super slick!
Thanks for turning your idea loose to us climbers. I will give it a try.
Just want to say that I made one for myself about a year ago now and this is the best thing I've added to my setup since I started climbing. I use it every time I climb without spikes. Thank you so much for sharing this, Dan.
Thanks incredible to hear. I’m exactly the same, I put it on for every climb and don’t take it off until I get in the truck to leave.
Can you email me pictures of your ascender mail@climbingarborist.com
I’d love to see it.
@@ClimbingArborist just sent
Looks like someone is selling something similar
That looks interesting to say the least. Would love to get closeups of this design of yours if you don’t mind so I can reproduce it. I have the suppliers/materials for it and would like to build it. Waiting for that video when you are ready :)
Well done Dan. You are clearly serving us well. Thanks Dan the man!
When I first started climbing I figured this is was knee ascenders were already like and this design just seems like it makes more sense anyway.
I like it 👍🏼 love the fact you can just leave it on and forget about it... I'm totally going to make that! Good stuff Dan
You'll love it, its another tool that makes climbing that much easier and more enjoyable
@@ClimbingArborist this will be invaluable as I progress out of DRT climbing!
Thx for shearing the idea and sorry it did not turn out the way u wanted. Cheers!
really beautiful!! it seems really good I was looking for something like that !!
Do you also produce them for other people? or could you make a video where you show the various steps?
thanks for the informations!!
Hey Dan, awesome creation there. Is there any way to get an in depth on how to build this? I’m a beginner to intermediate climber and this would help me out a ton
Thx for the video.
I will be assembling one over the next month I reckon.
Great information🙌🎯💯
As long as it doesn't put the user in any extra unnecessary danger or risk, I like it. Great idea and your prototype did work indeed.
you are a good person, mate.
cheers
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I diffidently like the system, but I just want to say I been climbing for lots of year and for being a old guy I enjoy your Video very much
@2:09 You clip in a chest clip... can I ask why that is needed?
I have been thinking a lot about your invention and I appreciate your generosity in sharing it. I was wondering how you attached the velcro to the ascender that allows it to pivot. I would love to see a close-up as another person below has also mentioned. I truly appreciate your work. Safe climbing and blessings to you.
I’d order one right now if it was on the market.
You really are one hell of a climber. I consider myself pretty fast but your efficiency is fascinating. Good stuff!
This game is all about efficiency at work, its how you can go all day and not then get mentally tired and make mistakes
Thank you for all you teach and many blessing to you tree brother.... greetings from Florida...
Would love to see a more detailed video of how this is made...if not it's cool lol. Great idea I hope it takes off for you!
I looking at that and seeing a climbing gaff/spike without the spike, extended maybe a little higher than normal and with an ascender attached. Very nice job.
Thanks bro, been sat on the idea to long thought it was time for others to reap the benefits of this type of ascender
Thanks!!! Cheers from Brazil
Cheers bro
THANKS FOR SHARING DAN.
This is exactly what I have been looking for hunting. I’m looking for help to find a way to get a set
Thanks
Love the idea. Keep pushing it out there we really could use it.
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I see some people leaving regular knee ascenders on all the time too. Not as streamlined as a non-bungee version though. I like the pivoting on yours, the systeme 3A (similar to yours) doesn't seem to have that, but I believe somebody won a comp with one.
I love the fact that it stays attached to the leg and is not flopping around. The only downside I can see is that you have to take baby steps instead of longer strides as with a saka. Great thinking Dan.
You've always got another trick up your sleeve! Be Well Dan
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Always great to see an inventive mind. I would like to see an informative step by step video on using this setup.
Keep up the good work, Dan!
Is there a way for you to share some closeup/detailed photos of your assembly stitch points, especially on the Pantin attachment area? Or maybe a short 1-minute video showing closeups of your stitching throughout?
When I get chance i’ll make a detailed video of it for you
Climbing Arborist that would be awesome, thanks!
best i've seen making one thanx
I can just see it now; Notch is previewing the release of their latest innovation on the knee ascender due to be released on Sherill and Treestuff Fall 2019!
Are they? or is that a joke/guess??
Call it a prediction...
Hello,
Do you have any of them made and for sale? If not do you have and plans I could buy from you? I only need a single unit...thank you,
Joshua
Hi Joshua, They are currently in the works...
Keep trying to build it! Looks awesome
Hi Dan, I've been following your videos since long time...Excellent job! Very informative and educational! I'm about to build something like your knee ascender. Here's one question: I have a Pantin for the right foot that I would like to use for my left knee with your system. You think I would't have any problem with that or it is stricly necessary to wear a left Pantin mounted on the knee ascender of my left leg? Just to avoid buying another one and maybe using the one that I already have. What do you reckon? Have you experimented also with other ascenders? Any suggestions? I'm afraid the Pantin has that kick back rope slippage problem and that's why I turned into a CT quick step foot ascender. Thank you...
this will be my first knee ascender. ill put a video about it on my tree channel
Thanks a lot for sharing your remarkable innovation!
I happen to think ots phenomenal as well! I wouldn't know how to make one, but its outstanding!
Nice job! I want to make my own Knee ascender like you. Could you give me a hint for the materials inside that it makes firm itself. And What was the pants you wore?
Is there any way you can make step by step
Wow thanks Dan !
No problem bro, been sat on the idea to long thought it was time for others to reap the benefits of this type of ascender
I would love for you to make them! I would buy it right up!! Great work brother!! 👌🏼
Thanks for sharing your design. I hope something positive for you comes of this as you have discovered the complexities and frustrations of patent/manufacturing. I personally suggest that you don’t worry about patent/copyright and do what has been done with the BulldogBone device. It’s not a life support device, so I say make some and sell them. There’s plenty of guys that would purchase them. Have people sign a release of liability to purchase. You might be surprised how many people will want one. Thanks again.
Cheers Travis, thanks for the comments bro and boost of confidence
Climbing Arborist
Especially if you put a kit together that allows the operator to use his or her own ascender or have the option to purchase one through you, that would be a big game changer. I’d say almost all of us have a chest ascender or a flat ascender like the SAKA/SAKA mini uses that we aren’t using. I know I have two of them. If you sold your set up all ready to go and all I had to do was attach my ascender, I’d buy one in a heart beat. I would also buy the whole shebang from you if the ascender was one of the Notch Jet Step foot ascenders mounted as a knee ascender!!
I would like to make one of these and was wondering if you have any updates since this video is 3 years old. So you still like the Pantin or is there a better foot ascender option? I was looking at the CT ascender that locks in the rope. Any experience with that, or should I stick with the original non locking Pantin? Thanks for the great idea and any pointers before I start making one would be much appreciated.
might be a weird question but why do you clip a carabiner to the knee ascender after you put the rope in the ascender?
Outstanding! I was monkeying around with this concept, and tried just strapping an ascender below my knee, but the strap cut into the soft tissue below my knee and was too painful. Running support down to the foot is the key. Well done! Have you considered finding a plastic swivel mechanism to attach the ascender to, that you could then rivet to the leg strap? Love seeing new ideas. Thanks.
I think the strap on your version must have been a little to high, I've played around with it and when it is really close to the knee it isn't comfortable.
I have been playing with a new ascender and a pivoting mechanism, we shall see how that works out
Damn, building this in soon as I get back to my Paff! Looks great bro!
Thanks bro, Let me know if and when you make one and if you need any tips for getting it working smoothly
@@ClimbingArborist what's the length of the 3 layer sewn webbing between ascender and footloop?
Very good Dan knee ascender ! Good work and video!
This is a great concept, I will definitely stitch one myself, speedy stitcher will do that fine (albeit very slow). Thanks for sharing Dan!!！
Shoot me a message or picture when you get around to making one, would be cool to see
SUPERB GEAR ! KUDO !!!
On the side, how many ropes (with specs) do you bring on a recreational climbing, and on a tree moderate pruning assignment ?
I would deff buy this product but if you dont go that route, could you make a video on how to make it?
I gonna try and make one, it seems like a good idea.
Definitely make one, they are awesome if you can get the ascender to pivot a bit and run without friction
That's a great idea, I think it's a job for aluminium. I know it wouldn't be as comfortable, but it'd work a ton better. Not a hunk of aluminium like a gaff leg. Just a tidy bar, maybe with a ridge up the middle to prevent any bending. The same thickness material as the pantin is made from, about 3mm.
A real development would be a specially made ascender to go on the end. With the bar locating in a round hole at the top, to act as the pushing pivot. And an ark/semicircle slot at the bottom of the ascender, through which, a support stud passes to allow the standing force to be applied efficiently and load the ascender correctly.
OR... here's an afterthought idea... one central hole in the ascender body for pushing, rotating, and loading ! The long and short is, you need to approach DMM, and develop the idea with them. It's not really the strap so much as the actual pantin. The idea is great.
Great idea though, top marks ! I'm now going through eBay for cheap chinese parts that I can chop up to make one 🤪
I made mine and love it if you can get ahold of me do you have a Patton on this a lot of guys at work want one so do you have a problem with me making these ?
Email me, the address is in the contact page at the bottom of the website. Would be great to see what you made 👍
Man sell that thing, People have made money on less good products.
Systeme 3A knee ascender from honeybros. It is incredible.
You're a damn good arborist and a damn good man to give your comrades advice and ingenious ways to save energy and time by using a clever little design like the one you thought up here. Nice work. Thanks for sharing!
Btw...Ive studied splicing and sail stitching from nautical books. Im sewing my own eyeslets splicing my own loops and webbing. You'd probably like and make good use of the sailing literature.:^)
Really appreciate your kind comments bro! I love to share knowledge to help as many people in the industry that are looking for help.
@@ClimbingArborist appreciated by this Kiwi. Cheers
Hello. What is the hitch you are using on: 3:30?
brilliant, this is clearly the next step in evolution.
Love your channel, Dan. Thanks!
Good work and I’m making similar and good tips! Thanks for upload and share!
Three years late, but do you have any plans to put it into production?
Always enjoy your videos...As to your knee ascender design, could you modify the ascender to include a pivoting attachment point?
trying a variety of ascenders with different pivoting options at the moment
is it possible to use a foot ascender attached to the knee?
I know you said you don't have the other knee ascenders, but I have a Haas that has the spliced footloose and it's fraying bad. Think the ascender off of that would work well for this?
Typically, if you're right handed, your left leg will be stronger. Think about it like jumping. If you're trying to get as much vertical travel as you possibly can, you'll jump extending your dominant hand upwards. And, doing so, you're left foot will leave the ground last. So as to extend your body diagonally, for maximum reach. So, it makes complete sense to use a foot ascender on whichever foot is opposite to your dominant hand. Personally, my favorite knee ascender is the original SAKA. But thanks to a patent held by Weaver, its barred from sale. I was lucky enough to find one on Amazon, of all places, for the two weeks they were available there..
Yes but this one will avoid the very annoying bungy and the fact that you need to attach it somewhere pulling down whatever it is attached to...
You can get a saka mini from Richard now and its actually a better design than his original..
Awesome work bud :) next Kevin Bingham right there ;) cracking idea, if you do get the chance to sell commercially I’d definitely add it to the wish list ;) good stuff :)
No one can be compared to Kevin Bingham, his creations are genius. This is pretty simple stuff. I will continue to tinker, I have a few other ascenders and attachments I want to try so I may get someone to make it, although its tricky with the sizing for different people
Climbing Arborist yeah I imagine it would be :) anyway man I’ve been a fan for a while and watched a lot of your stuff, and it’s been very helpful for me :) big respect :)
Ça existe déjà et tu peux l’acheter c’est le système 3a ....
Love it man definitely going to make it
Awesome, if you have any difficulties along the way shoot me a message or comment and i’ll Try and help you out
Holy shiznit! Thats frigging awsome bro!
Thanks bro, been sat on the idea to long thought it was time for others to reap the benefits of this type of ascender
Why don't you contact August at Monkey Beaver about making these ascender straps?I've see him sewing his products.Perhaps some type of swivel or rivet would safely connect ascender and allow movement.Thanks for all of your great videos,I've learned a lot.
I want one. I don't know if you are selling it by order, but if you are can you give me more information about it, like price?
Thank you
Not selling them as I haven't made a complete commercial product, but this video is here to help you create your own.
Super creative. I dig it. I'd pay you to make me one. However much that would be. I'd rock that over my mini saka.
Good work love new gadgets mate.... Well worth a watch people.!
Jim
Thanks bro, been sat on the idea to long thought it was time for others to reap the benefits of this type of ascender
Great work, I made one up last year and makes such a difference, not quite as refined as yours though
I’ve got to be honest, the explanation was helpful but still a bit too vague, you need a close up overhead shot of the ascender as your explaining, from what I gathered from your explanation is some webbing, some tubing and an ascender attached loosely somehow to it all. I’m super interested. But I need a bit more detail
Have you filed for a patent on the ideal? If not you should.
Great idea and thanks for sharing mate.
Thanks for sharing! Definitely noticed it in your work climb video in NZ. Actually got me to thinking I could put my stiff tether to use as a stiff leg tether for my knee ascender and add velcro straps somehow?? That is about as far as I got. Thanks for showing us a superior design. Always enjoy me some climbing arborist👍
Cheers bro, been sat on the idea to long thought it was time for others to reap the benefits of this type of ascender
very much looove this system. thoughts on modifications to replicate this with the commercial products we have bought?
I don't understand your question, can you elaborate
@@ClimbingArborist i was just wondering if i could mod my bungee-based knee ascender into your design, or would it be better to build it from scratch as you have.
I was wondering how to ascend with both legs without crossing ascenders or clipping/unclipping. The solution was simple - just mount one higher up on a device like this!
Hello, where can I find it? I'd like to buy it. Thanks
Maybe I missed it but where did the thick tether that everything is attached to come from?
Just made one of these and it's great!
Awesome, you should email us over a picture of DM on instagram
That is brilliant ! Thanks 🙏 for sharing
Cheers bro
Life is better when we share and help others to be safe, I am sure I will be using this method as soon as I am able to sort one out. Unfortunately I was a passenger in a head on collision six weeks ago and I am still in casts on wrist and broke my sternum on the seat belt.
Typical I get hurt not from being in a tree but in a car I had no control of.
Good luck in all you do !
Thanks again
Garry from England
Merci pour tes vidéos ça m'aide beaucoup
Hey Dan, great design! Do you think this design would benefit from the rollers on the camp turbo foot ascender?
I think those rollers are more gimmick than useful to be honest
Is there a reason you don't use an autolocking ascender other than compatibility with the ability to attach it in a way that allows rotation? This is an invention that reduces the need to take things on and off, so I'd think eliminating the need for those locking carabiners (regardless of how fast you are with them) would be beneficial, no?
If you see on the version on the desk and the version in the work climb and rescue comp it has an auto locking mechanism, just the first version didn't
Have you tried it with the CT or any other brand? Do you recomend using the Pantin over others?
I've tried a few chest ascenders and camp foot ascender, the panting has worked the best so far, but I'm testing out others with pivot points
Thanks for all your videos climbing arboristhas been very helpull this last year not only with climbing but in advancing my career.
I want to make one with the CT simple cause its nice and compact and lays flatter than most of the other chest ascenders. The one I have right now I just threw together with a Kong chest ascender, the loop end of a ratchet strap with a strap adjustment to change the length easily and a doubled piece of shock cord over the shoulder hooked to my saddle. It works for getting in the tree but kind of annoying having to take it off everytime then finding a place to keep it. Usually just shove it in my little throw line pouch lol this looks like a much better design though.
did you push this to a final product Dan? I'm transitioning to SRT and always looking for better gear....
big velcro strap looks like the one off my darby sawpod?? (I dont use it any more)
No, Ive not made a commercial product, there are a lot of variable so its not as simple as you'd think. We are still tinkering though so maybe we'll have one for the market.
Compatible with spikes Dan? Great idea, 👍
No tried it, I imagine you would probably want to do something different if you wanted a second two ascenders first Spurs
Indeed, something to think about I suppose. I have the Haas Velox and it's main draw back is one has to take it off to work the tree. I might get some heavy duty velcro and manufacture a calf strap or maybe two. Srt has some big advantages over Mrs but that said it isn't a silver bullet either. Happy Christmas, 👍 😁 🎅
Can one buy one from you already assemble I'm a lefty to so I use my right knee for knee ascention
Nice job! I figured as soon as I saw it that it would be as you said, doesn't quite get the step as some of the others. I would think the convenience of it will make up for that. Can you use it in conjunction with spur's?
Cheers bro, with the new one I made I get a longer stride but probably still not quite as long as the other. I don't think you would want to use it with spurs if you already had a spikecender as you would most likely spike yourself in the legs
How much does the Pantin foot ascender damage a rope? Seems like the sharp point would wear out the rope quickly.
All these type of cam ascenders are designed for this purpose, if they damaged the ropes they wouldn't be allowed in tree work, rope access, search and rescue etc
You must make this tool for the masses!! You’ll be famous brotha! Shit I’ll buy one lol
This is definitely marketable. U just need short, med, long for different legs. The strap position is critical.
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is this usable with spurs ?
what kind rope do you use
can u explain how u made it as well
Awesome bro wish I could get one
Bring it to market.
Have you tried some type of the S.A.K.A?
Yes, I’ve tried the SAKA mini as the original is no longer available. I hate the whole bunny part of those type of knee ascenders and I couldn’t get the ascender to recoil well enough for a consistent stride. I’m not saying it’s a bad device but it’s only ever used for the initial ascent and then is taken off.
What are the karabiners for on the ascenders?