To be real. Yes. But that doesn’t quite work for a video title sadly. But because of this episode it has become my favourite TV show period ever so it’s literally as close as it’s ever gonna get in the medium for me. What did you think of it?
The first time I watched the episode, it felt like a lot of things were happening and I wasn't keeping up with it. The exposition we get about "Life" from Zeke, some info about Ymir, Eren and Mikasa cabin scene, the dialogue between Eren & Armin and not to forget, crazy action scenes happening all around involving the ancient titans and some back and forth sequences but upon a re-watch i definitely enjoyed this episode so much more. I don't think the ending is perfect mainly because there are certain things about Ymir which are still a little unclear, except for that I loved everything else. Overall a good conclusion to possibly the best fictional story I've come across.
I dont think any piece of Art will mean as much to me as Attack on Titan ever in my lifetime.. This was truly one in a lifetime series and I consider myself lucky to have witnessed it.. These memories will stay with me forever...
@@adsafgasgasdfasdf”The world is cruel” this is what AoT all about . It’s the reality. I don’t know how old you are . But I’m sure you realize that one day your friends, families and lover will die , include yourself . Are you going to hate your life ? Isayama San stated it numerous time there is no happy ending for AoT many years ago. We all already knew that. Meanwhile majority of anime are for kids . There are plenty of joys and happiness you looking for. As an adult AoT is the only anime I watched in the last 15 years, the best probably the last. Shinzo wo sasakeyo💙
The talk zeke and armin had about life really hit me because I too felt like zeke for a long time and armin saying that life is about the trivial small moments that you enjoy really made me realize that I do have some kind of meaning to my existence, and I’m not just here to continue growing the world
Now that it's done, I'm gonna watch AOT again from start to finish. AOT will probably stay in my number 1 spot as the greatest anime I've watched for a long time. Great video btw!
I started my rewatch recently. I think m that’s a great idea. Thank you for the comment. The shows in my number one spot too. I just love being about to talk for 15mins with people. Just thanks for the support.
I will always cherish the final scene with Reiner and his mother. ''I didn't need anymore''. At that moment, my mother and I just started crying and we hugged while watching the ending. I've never experienced such an emotional experience while watching a show.
Literally even after doing all this research and constant hours of working on this video. I found even more meaning in the sequence when people on twitter were discussion the shell and every occurrence its appeared and the reasoning. There is still 1000s if not 10000s of words worth of discussion still left. Man I love those two boys.
@@DareToEntertain wait what? I thought they said once you inherit one of the titan powers you get to live 13 more years. It was stated in the final episode too. If that is the case than surely armin dies before mikasa cause she is shown to die of old age. Did i miss anything or did i get it wrong?
@@Madorik123 Yeah this is easy to explain. Eren removing the titans from the world and Ymir denouncing the vow. All the curses dropped. All the titan powers are gone. Meaning everyone. Including the warriors gang got to live long lives.
The ending fits perfectly to what AOT is all about. I'm glad they didn't get pressured to make huge changes to the ending just to make some of the fans happier. For me, this show will go down in history as the greatest show of all time. Isayama got balls of steel to write a story like this.
I would have liked a whole episode in the cabin, another with eren and armin's conversation and another clearly depicting Ymir's relationship with King Fritz. I'm perfectly fine with the ending itself but I think if they had fleshed out these specific parts of the story, less people would have felt betrayed
Honestly, so much happened with such colossal stakes that I couldn't think straight for much of the episode, I was enthralled into it and terrified for every character for the entire battle, and once the episode ended, all I could think was "This was monumental". With further analysis of the episode, I can confidently say it's a masterpiece and thank Isayama for giving us the best story I have ever seen in an anime.
I started watching AOT in 2015. I was 12 years old at the time (pls don't tell my parents) and I'm 20 years old now. It has always been on my mind and I will continue to think about it for many more years to come. I thought the ending was perfectly executed and I'm glad that you enjoyed it as much as I did. I'm gonna go watch your Vinland Saga video next. I love your stuff!
How do you only have 6k subscribers? The way you put your words and thoughts together is just mesmerizing and you state your opinion in a way that it's almost cinematic!! I loved this video and I also loved the ending of attack on titan!
@@CombatUnit621 You missed my point. I wasn’t talking about his opinion on the ending, I was talking about how he expresses his opinion and puts his words together. Only thing I stated about the ending was that I loved it. Never said it was perfect.
I would have loved that and hell even jean’s mum woulda be nice. Those two characters especially Connie did get the least. Funny how nearly every characters parents was there who were alive hell even Eren’s dad showed up.
It was perfect. I'm on the side of it being a masterpiece. The animation was insane, and I got the feels, I was crying like the whole episode, it was so good but bittersweet.❤
To me, Attack on Titan will forever be the greatest show ever created. It’s easily my favorite work of fiction. The heartache and pure cinematic bliss of what Hajime Isayama created will likely never be topped. I’ve shared this show with my friends, and it’s become incredibly meaningful to us. This terrible, bittersweet ending is absolute perfection. I love your videos, and I hope you keep posting! I would HIGHLY recommend Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, and I’d especially love to hear your thoughts on it. It’s the only ever show I’ve seen that comes close to the way Attack on Titan made me feel. If you find another show that does that for you, please make a video on it, because I want to hear about it.
Thank you so much for the support. Attack on Titan has really been a show to get closer to my audience in the best way possible. Its so special and close to all of our hearts. FMAB is outstanding. I absoutely want to cover it but just lack the time to work on it. Next 3 videos are locked in and I dont have time to really fit any in for a little while. FMAB, Chainsaw Man, Eva, And then the New DC animated movies are very much on my radar to cover here on the channel.
Idk I would say they still failed a bit with the transformation of Eren into a villain, just felt a little forced. But hey, he did say himself "I am an idiot"
@@biggreenblob foreshadowing doesn't always equal proper character development. plus they were completely inconsistent with the foreshadowing in the flashbacks, like retconning stuff and then bringing it back in.
First of all, I want to say that this was a good and well-edited video despite me disagreeing with most of the points. Here's some of my counter arguments: The Walter White comparison with Eren doesn't work because Eren wasn't given any options. It was either he does a full Rumbling and kills 100% of the outside world or Paradis gets destroyed. There was no other option to accomplish his goal. Meanwhile Walter had many other options that could've achieved his goal of financially supporting his family after his death. One of the examples is when Liam offered a job to Walter with excellent pay and top-notch health insurance. Walter declined this offer out of his ego as he thought this offer was given because of pity. If his family was his #1 priority, he would've accepted this offer despite his ego because they are his number one priority. But he didn't, he chose a path of crime when he didn't need to. That's why it makes sense when he says he WANTED it for himself and he liked it. This was not the case for Eren. Also you brought up how the ending was sad, when in reality it's quite the opposite. What makes it so sad? All of the main characters lived long and peaceful lives and Paradis wasn't destroyed until hundreds of years. It's said because Paradis was destroyed anyways? Well that doesn't make sense since we aren't emotionally invested to Paradis when it was destroyed. Is it sad because 80% of the outside world was trampled? Well that can be considered sad but again, we aren't emotionally attached to the people who got killed, which makes us not be that emotional over it. People felt more Hange's death than Paradis getting destroyed and 80% of the outside world getting trampled, because they were emotionally attached to her. It's like if 20 people die in a shooting, most people reading the news won't cry about it. But if it were a family member, most would cry. So again, how is it sad? Because Eren died? He's one character. Only one. How does him dying change everything and make it sad? This dude murdered 80% of the world to "save his friends" (which is pretty stupid) and we should feel bad for him? I don't think so. You mention that the scene where Eren breaks down over Mikasa is perfect but it really isn't. Him breaking down over Mikasa is essentially him being a crybaby because why would someone whine over their sister being with another man after knowing they're going to murder 80% of the outside world? Eren should not even be THINKING about Mikasa during that scene, he should be talking about more important things in one of the last conversations he has with his best friend, like about how he's going to kill 80% of the outside world. If Mikasa more important to him than murdering innocent people, then why didn't he think of her when he was dying in multiple occasions (inside a titan, in the cave with Historia)? Also Armin is a hypocrite and makes no sense. Armin always preaches non-violence and diplomacy through talking but he punches Eren when all he did was talk (during the table scene). This is hypocritical and he is never called out for this. Also Armin punches Eren when he says something about Mikasa but not when he talks about murdering MILLIONS of innocent people. Another thing, you mention that he always wanted to be in a romantic relationship with Mikasa, but he has never wanted that. He was never romantically interested in her, until the ending, which shows how he was retconned even more. I would really like someone to name me ONE scene in which Eren showed romantic feelings for Mikasa. But yeah, those are some of my points, hopefully you can see where I'm coming from and maybe I can change your opinion a bit.
I also applauded, that they made Armin ALSO condemn himself for his actions. Even though he was forced, didn't make his deed any less worse. Him aknowledging that he'd see Eren in hell felt so... satisfying. That he'd carry his sins with him and knows full well that they'd be next in line. War won't stop, but it will continue when rebellion starts. Until then they had plenty of time to life in peace without the past of other nations showing intense prejudice and hatred on eldians for now.
I am beyond happy that my brother decided to show me AoT a couple of months ago after he got into it cause it has become my new favorite piece of media which I’m still trying to wrap my head around, I never expected an anime that isn’t connected to anything I’ve liked before to take that spot instead of something related to Sonic, Marvel, or DC, especially since I thought Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes would never be beat for that spot but god dang it if this show wasn’t so amazing on so many levels! (I also think I might be a bit traumatized when it comes to character deaths, Iron Man in Endgame is still the most upsetting to me because of how he was a character I followed and loved for basically my whole life but man, Eren, Erwin, and Sasha’s deaths especially still hurt so freaking badly 😫)
In episode 1 of Attack on Titan, the narrator said, "On that day, mankind received a grim reminder...." it was Armin. In the last episode, Armin again narrated "The story of what we've seen. Let's tell them all of it. " Looping to the whole series of ATTACK ON TITAN, of Armin telling US the story 👏👏👏
Great discussion. I also love how Mikasa got a good chunk of spotlight in the finale. She was done dirty by cutting off important character moments during WiT era. Anyway, AoT is truly a special show.
Attack on Titan was also my first ever anime, and I went into it skeptical and with low expectations because of my preconceived notions of what anime was. It was insane how I immediately felt immersed into the show from the beginning and how much of an impact it has had on me since. It’s honestly sad to think about how many people won’t ever see this masterpiece just because of its medium.
I could not understand the vitriol online, this ending was amazing. Anything that makes me weep openly like Schindler's List did, is great cinema in my book, and it had a reference of it in there to boot! 10/10 would cry again 💔❤️
@@CombatUnit621 congrats on being a condencending prick on the internet, there's clearly alot about the deeper plot, and character arcs, that went right over your head.
I think the people who hate the ending, are mostly woke leftist that feel bad for a story where profound violence was a part of the solution. They wished for an ending where everyone just sang kumbaya in the end, depicting a world where it was possible to win and live without fighting.
My favorite show, mabey even my favorite piece of art. I am not saying its the best or even that is perfect. I am saying that i was born to watch any enjoy it.
It’s my favourite piece of media ever. I’ve never seen a more complex narrative. This show genuinely changed my life, like it changed my aspect on what life is, like that conversation between Armin and Zeke. It showed the cruelty of war and the human condition of endless violence, and how this communal hate can bring destruction. I will most probably never witness anything better than this.
There are few pieces of media and art that moved me as much as AoT did. It takes the top spot together with breaking bad of best shows I have ever seen.
Thank you for this video, i was so speechless when i finished AoT, that i am unable to just let it go ! Awesome experience, glad to have YT to share and watch other fan reactions :))
I started watching AOT when I was 16. Attack On Titan was a story about 3 friends who live in a world seemingly perfect considering, but filled with pain and anguished caused by monsters that est people. Fast forward to current I am now 27, married and own a business with my wife. I have been an enormous consumer of media be it music, TV, books, movies and anime alike. Attack On Titan has remained the most well thought out and executed piece of fiction I've ever come across. It is so impactful even that AOT isn't even the anime I watch the most of yet I am aware of it being King of The Hill. It is such an accomplishment to create a show whose episodes become instant classics upon release. I will rewatch the entire series and recollect my past memories when this used to be all about monsters eating people and how even then it was so simple, plain and digestible. (No pun intended) Thank you Hajime Isayama.
First half of the song is also a direcr refrence to another linked horizion song "13 winters" infact its kind of a sequel to that song based on the lyrics.
What did they expect to happen? They all jump in erens mouth and try and talk him out of it for 20 minutes and they all live happily ever after with eren and he's forgiven for destroying nearly the entire world?
I loved it. It did not stray from what the show was about from the very beginning. It left as many questions as it answered, this show has been shrouded in mystery from day 1. I love how open ended it truly was after erens story had been told.
Ever since I was in elementary to now AOT was always the show that was talked about in my friend group, back then I thought anime was weird and thought it was odd to watch entertainment from another country, for years I always AOT as just another popular anime like DBZ and Naruto with weird monster people that eat humans that my friends used to talk about and I’d roll my eyes over I only started watching anime in summer 2022 when I saw recoreacts on tiktok reacting to Nagatoro a minor seasonal anime really good but no big deal. After watching it was when I realized the genre and style of Anime , after watching a few more rom com anime’s I finally decided to watch a shonen and what better way to do then with Aot , my mindset entering the show was to see what all the hype was about , after watching the first season , words can’t describe what I just watched . I never knew tv shows could be done in such a way , it was truly eye opening. I started binge watching every season up to part 3 where I was fought up with the story. I may not have been with the show since day one but I sure love the tv show and all the aspects about it ,. Even though the final episode wasn’t what I wanted , it sure was an experience watching such a legendary show unfold.
You get to witness a LOT of pieces of entertainement in life. Books, movies, whatever. Many of these are meh, many of these are amazing. And sometimes, you get something like this, a litteral gem that goes beyond entertainement and makes you think deep about life. Something so good, that people either worship it or hate it. AoT is exactly that. It made people angry, happy, sad, it made us laugh, reflect and cry. Good art creates emotions, and the wider panel of emotions, the better the art. AoT is a masterpiece and will be remembered.
AoT was the first Anime ever for me so even that makes it special to me. But what truly touches me deep inside is the character development their past and of every single on the relationships between the characters and the further development of those relationships between them! The world and everything that happened! It was a journey where i had the feeling being one of the side characters not a particular one just myself sticking with them survived all those stuff and seeing the end being with them witnessing the change of relationships and events in the world with so many things that either where forseeable or not... AoT will always be my favourite Anime of all time...
That was a wild ride and I'm glad I have been part of it. You are right it is special and i'm having a hard time letting this story go too, it will stay with me forever. Shinzou wo sasageyo, thank you Attack on titan
Eren knew humanity will always revert back to a cycle of violence. He understood both sides eventually but made sure his loved ones had a chance to live fulfilling lives at the cost of his sacrifice. Despite ending being so bleak it’s reflective of the world we live in today unfortunately. Humans will never change
The ending was heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time. It saddened me that war still happened after all the sacrifices that everyone made. But it gives me comfort knowing that, everyone that did survive? Well, they lived a full and peaceful life. Its just unfortunate that humanity will never be content with peace. There will always be conflict, there will always be war. Titans weren't the reason why humans fought, its cause its in our nature. We can't help but tear each other apart. Its an inevitable cycle.
Can't believe it's over what a journey it was thank you to everyone involved in this show. It will always be close to my heart and remain my favorite story. Never have I cried more watching anything before this episode. AoT was special to me.
It's been months and I still can't stop thinking about it. The ending was beautiful. I'm an anime only and watched it with my sister's and our mom and it was some of the most tense, emotional entertainment I've ever had the pleasure of watching. All the haters will just have to cope and seethe. What we got was beautiful. Not perfect, but life never is.
Love this. For me perfect represents the feeling. The time I had, the journey is one I wouldn't change at all. Its ending is everything I wanted from an adaptation. Man I love AoT
I was introduced to this show by watching A Slap on Titan with my friends. I thought it looked interesting enough that I went back and watched the real episodes. I instantly fell in love. Fortunately this was in 2015 so I only had to wait 2 years for season 2. I can't remember what chapter I started reading the manga on but I know I went back to read through the beginning of the time skip. As someone who loves history, especially WWI and WWII, seeing this modern military while also using Titans was fascinating for me. I couldn't wait for it to be adapted. 2019 came around and Attack on Titan was one of the few things that got me through the hell of Covid. In fact, looking forward to Part 2, 3, and the last one helped me get through a lot. As pathetic as it sounds, AOT was one of the few things that kept me going in this horrible society. Unfortunately I lost my grandmother a year ago, someone I promised to never forget about as she took care of me since I was 2 years old, and called me her soul mate. I never forgot that, and when I spoke to her one last time, I told her I will always see her as my soul mate. Now seeing the ending of AOT hurts even more because I see myself as Mikasa. I promised her even when I (hopefully) find someone else I will never forget her. Now that it's over, I don't know what to do. Life still isn't easy and I don't have much to keep going, but like Eren, I need to keep moving forward.
I love the finally. Because I understood the answer to "whats the point". Armin stated it to Zeke. I watched Attack on Titan because I fell in love with its charakters. I loved Sasha, Conny, the stupid squandering between Eren and Jean. I loved seing Armin, seing the Sea for the first time and Mikasa showing unfamiliar, even clumsy cuteness in this moment of relief. I loved seing Sasha stealing meat and I loved getting to know Levis team. True, many are not there anymore. But their pasing was only such a gutpunch because we loved them. And we loved them for this small pointless moments that made us happy and laugh. Experiencing this was the point and we wouldn't follow them if we didn't like the charakters. It was always about the humans connection they shared with each other and we sympathied with them. Human connections are the point.
10 years ago my previous 5 year relationship ended and I was in the the worst mental state of my life. Desperate to find something to distract me, I came across AoT, my first of many anime. 10 years later, I'm about to have daughter with the love of my life. AoT fundamentally helped me balance myself, immersed me an epic story with characters I could relate to, and spectacle I could awe at. No other story has come close to the impact of AoT to me personally and I don't think I'll ever find another story that will affect my life as much tbh.
my favorite scenes apart from the action are armin and zeke convo the cabin scene and eren and armin's convo was so emotional and the ending scene with mikasa broke me
You asked us to share how we got into AOT so I hope you’re ready to strap yourself in for a long story. I originally watched the English dub of AOT on Toonami back in 2013. I recorded it every week and slowly made my way through season 1, and while it never truly gripped me, I enjoyed it for what it was. After that, years went by with no word of a season 2, and I slowly lost interest. I started thinking that the show wasn't really all that good and that people kind of overhyped it. Before long, I honestly started to think that I wouldn't care to see the continuation of it. It certainly didn't help that a lot of manga readers during that time had also lost interest in the series, claiming it got boring and too political. However, the popularity of the show always kept it around. While I checked out other anime and made friends with people who liked anime, AOT was always a show that people were excited to talk about and see more of. It was just that popular, especially with a normie crowd who knew very little about anime in general. Naturally, when it was finally time for season 2 to release, the hype slowly started to reignite. Somehow, I even found myself starting to grow interested again. After all, if everyone else was going to be watching season 2 after all of this time, then why shouldn’t I? So, in anticipation of the new season, I invited a bunch of friends over to my house to marathon all of season 1 in a single day. We had both veterans that had seen it before and those that were completely fresh, and it was honestly a magical experience. I was suddenly reminded of all the small amazing moments that had originally blown me away, all while watching newcomers get to experience them for the first time. Eren sacrificing himself to save Armin, Eren coming back as a titan, Pixis’s amazing speech on top of the wall. Perhaps the most memorable moment though (and my favorite) was when the cadets were being offered the chance to join the scouts, and so many of them walked away in fear but a chosen few stayed behind. I felt so bad for the characters, but held such great respect for them too. They were terrified of what they were signing up for, but they realized that it was a threat that needed to be confronted, and they just couldn’t bring themselves to walk away from that. Just as they devoted their hearts to the cause, I suddenly found myself devoting my own to this show. I watched season 2 with English subs as it aired. I then watched it a second time in the dub on Toonami. And then finally a third time when I gathered all of my friends to marathon it together, just as he had with season 1. And I have to say, season 2 was so good at dropping little hints that you would only ever pick up on with repeat viewings. From the Reiner and Bertholdt reveal to the question of what titans actually are to who is the true enemy facing the people of the walls. After watching season 2 so many times, I actually consider it a masterpiece. It really pushed the series forward and forced you to start asking questions and truly wonder just how deep this mystery went. Clearly, there was a much larger narrative than what was being presented here, and the show rewarded you for noticing that. After that, I debated between reading the manga or just waiting for the next season. But considering how long it had taken for season 2 and how hyped I already was to continue the story, it didn’t take long for me to break. I dove into the manga from the beginning, refreshing myself on the entire story before making my way through the Uprising and Return to Shiganshina arcs. I have to say, that reread really made the basement reveal all the more worth it. To have something so mind blowing revealed while also having it perfectly tie into every event the story had shown us so far. It was amazing. Some of the best content I have ever read. I soon caught up with the Marley arc, right at the chapter where Eren and Reiner reunited in that basement. From there, I read each new chapter month to month, and oh what an exciting ride it was. You never knew what was going to happen next. Who you could trust. How everything would be resolved. Even after answering so many questions, the mysteries continued, and the future was uncertain. All we could surmise from the bleak struggle was that these characters probably weren’t going to get a happy ending. In the end, the conclusion was tragic, but I feel like it was exactly what it needed to be, and I was honestly satisfied with it. I’m so thankful to have become so heavily invested in AOT, especially after a time where I thought I had lost all interest in it. I’m thankful to have friends that came in with fresh perspectives and helped me reignite my own passion for the series. It's a passion that has never since died out, even after all of these years. It’s been such an incredible journey, and one that I’ll never forget. Thank you, Isayama. Thank you, Attack on Titan.
I also found a lot of similarities between Ymir and Mikasa. This episode showcases that Ymir was a slave for love, that’s why she happily did everything Fritz wanted and even after his death. For 2000 years, Ymir was waiting for someone who was brave enough to make the biggest sacrifice, the sacrifice of love, one she couldn’t make for 2000 years. And that person was Mikasa. And her wearing that scarf in the end when Eren told her to forget him, shows that she is no longer a slave to love, but continues to remember him nonetheless. Definitely the most beautiful and at the same time tragic love story I’ve ever witnessed.
I slightly disagree with how you describe Mikasa as a slave to love. Yimir loved king fritz because she didn’t know what real love looked like. Mikasa loved Eren because he cared for her(even if he didn’t like to show it) in the end Mikasa killed eren because it was her only choice if she didn’t the rest of humanity would have died and the titans curse would continue. Mikasa exercised her own free will both when she protected eren and killed him which is something yimir didn’t know how to do. Yimir learned how to use free will from mikasa example. This would allow yimir to free herself from her servitude and end the titans curse. But Mikasa never truly wanted to be “Free” of eren because to her eren was never a burden to be free of. In the end they learned that Mikasa was never a slave and yimir was never in love. The sad conclusion that we are left to face is that yimir never got to be free and Mikasa never got her love because in the end they both sacrificed what they wanted the most for the greater good.
@@boxdogvids1798 Nah you didn’t get carried away, it’s a perfect understanding. And yeah it’s one of the greatest pieces of fiction I’ve ever seen. It was only my second anime and before that I used to think anime was just for kids. I’ve started neon genesis evangelion now and that’s also really good so far.
I got into the show late, around season 4 part 1, so maybe i didn't have the same connection over time as prior who were there from jump. But I'm glad people are liking the ending, because even when the manga came out i was satisfied and i felt like the anime fleshed it out even better!
Japan is just killing it right now and has had two of my favorite stories told across any medium end and stick the landing with numerous others currently on going. The Final Fantasy 14 arc that ended with Endwalker and now Attack on Titan. They are just telling stories studios in the West are either not creative enough to tell, unwilling to tell or both.
My boyfriend knows good entertainment. I’ve learned to dive into whatever he suggests. Including AOT. My suggestion, coming from him through me, is Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood. And in watching your hour long video on AOT, knowing your internal battle with Star Wars, Clone Wars and Dark Disciple. Absolutely fantastic works.
Small part of me wanted to do a little edit and include something like Doom music or john wick mode the song but I deicded to leave it be as is in the show.
The way i got into the series is kind of amusing. Back when it was just season I hated it. I didn't hate it because I thought the characters were terrible or the pacing or the animation, I hated it because I didn't understand the hype. I based my opinions on tge show strickly from the bits from the show or the tribute game. My reasoning range from understand to straight up dumb. But eventually I ended up watching it because I got spoiled something that i needed answers to. "How and why can the main character turn into a titan?" The first 2 episodes shattered my expectations on what the story was, its genra, its characters. I was originally going to watch until they gave the answers but the story bear hugged me until i couldn't look anywhere else. Suddenly finding myself rewatching the first season multiple times, getting my sister, my brother, even my mother into it. I started buying and reading the manga, and owning t shirts. Its really amazing that a hater like me suddenly be came a big fan of attack on titan.
Tragedy is the beauty of AOT. But i will add that AOT may be tragic but it was never hopeless. The fact that the ending ED rescued my favorite childhood ship, it's all i needed. And i don't care for whatever reasons people watched this magnificent show:whether it was for the the warfare,blood, destruction,thrill or suspense..noone has the right to judge or make anyone feel less about themselves for their motives because at the end we all are watching to feel the impact of connection. Whether you've watched the series or are a manga reader there is no room for toxicity.
Reasons to why it’s a terrible ending. 1 How did his friends survive the titans? They lose Sasha to 3 titan shifters and 2 kids but lose no one against 100s of titan shifters? 2. Zeke dying shouldn’t of stopped the rumbling. Ymir’s goal was to destroy the world so why didn’t Ymir just continue the rumbling after zeke died?’ 3. Zeke should of stopped the rumbling earlier because his dad telling him “ please stop Eren” didn’t give him motivation to die so he can stop it but armin showing a ball did? 4. How did mikasa free Ymir?😂 and no it isn’t because she was able to kill her lover and move on no no no she didn’t move on for crap she still had that scarf on and got buried next to Eren. 5.Ymir doesn't have Stockholm’s syndrome, if she did why did she not heal herself when a spear went through her? If she had Stockholm’s syndrome she would of had the will to live for the king. Ymir’s character is terrible. She is in the paths because she is a slave to Fritz but disobeyed him twice? 6 Eren ch139 (last 30 mins) “ I’m an idiot” “I don’t know why I did the rumbling” “ I moved forward for mikasas choice” “ I did it to portray u as heroes” 💀💀💀💀 “ I would of killed them all if u didn’t stop me” Pre ch139 “Ill keep moving forward until I destroy my enemies “ “The only way to end the cycle of hatred is to bury it”😂 7. What was the point of destroying 80%? eldia got destroyed. What did he achieve by doing that? He made the outer world hate eldians more and doomed paradises safety which he promised ( Eren only cared about Eldias safety not cycle of hatred so eldia bombing themselves is irrelevant for him) 8. What was the reason for the rumbling ? It defo wasn’t to make them look like hero’s because Eren said if u didn’t stop me I would of killed them all which is a contradiction. 9. Erens mom death was pointless. He already said he killed her because it wasn’t bertholdt time yet which means it wasn’t to fuel his hate for titans💀He already had the determination to lead him were he already is. When mikasa’s parents got killed he said “ if anyone tried to take away my freedom I won’t hesitate to take theirs” he also said to his dad that the kidnappers were scum and animals that needed to die. Eren before his moms death wanted to join the survey corps and venture outside the walls. If he found out the world wants to kill him he would of started the rumbling because they tried to take his freedom and we knew what Eren thinks about that. Erens view of freedom was killing everyone outside the walls so he 100% has the determination to do the rumbling. (Anyone who says Eren view of freedom wasn’t killing everyone u need to rewatch the last episode where he was talking to ramzi the kid 10. In ch130 ( episode where the ships get destroyed in Marley) Eren thinks about his mom getting eaten by the titan and it being his main motivation for the rumbling which makes no sense since Eren should know that he killed his mom because this is when he sent armin to paths and told him everything. This could only mean that isayama changed the ending a year before it finished. The best proof of this is that historia’s baby was born the same day as ch139 there was a fan theory of what they thought would happen which looks like this was what isyaama planned originally because the baby was born same day and all developed disappeared with historia which wouldn’t make sense if he didn’t change the ending. (Eren was meant to leave his titan crystal in paradise and touch his baby with royal blood to active the rumbling again) 11.The whole Eren at the cabin scene. How did eren interact with mikasas memories? She is an Ackerman he Shouldn't be able to do that. people who are saying this is a different timeline pls provide ur proof. If it is a different timeline why does Eren have titan marks? Why do they also grow bigger the closer Eren gets to death? They become massive when she is holding erens head representing that it was a fake memory. The bigger the titans marks the closer she gets to reality 12. Eren crying like a baby for mikasa is a retcon. When did Eren ever cry like this for mikasa? He alway pushed mikasa away from him. When Eren found out he has a 8 years to live mikasa was in jail with him, did he care about her then? No he didn’t even care about mikasa when he found out he dosnt have long left to live even isayama said mikasa is a mother figure for him so how exactly does him crying like a baby fit his character? 13. Eren said to armin he will show them the memories after he gets killed but shows it to mikasa before he gets killed? 14. How did Eren turn into the collosal titan after zeke died?😂😂😂 15. Eren in ch131 (episode with ramzi) he said “I wonder what will mom think” this is a plot hole. Eren knows he killed his mom so why is he saying that? 😊
you know, It's Ironic how Eren died which In the first season of episode three when he said he would kill them all, he predicted his death and the end of titans. I absolutely loved the ending but when I heard Armin and Mikasa's cry, my ass cried a river.
Yeah Attack On Titan is very special. I had heard a lot of crap about the ending and how it's horrible and was afraid that it might ruin my AoT experience. But thank God I don't read the manga and watched the Anime ending
And Ymir choosing Mikasa was also a very big plothole that didn't made too much sense. Was Ymir in Mikasa's head from the beginning or what? How did she know that she loved Eren? Because if I'm not wrong Eren didn't know. Or he knew and she didn't and he told her? If Eren didn't told her, why did she choose her? Because she already knew the outcome? Or because she was a girl? Wtf? But if she knew she loves him or if she knew the outcome, why it was necessary for her to kill Eren? Why was she in Mikasa's head in the first place? If Eren told her that she loves him why Eren's answer was only Ymir knows? Did she tried to manipulate Mikasa or what? Did she forced her to kill Eren or what? If Ymir was able to feel Mikasa's feelings, this means she was able to feel other people's feelings too? Why wasn't Historia was the one who saved her then? She loved the Farmer, maybe she didn't and it was just a forced thing? Or Annie? Did Ymir thought that love is about killing the other? And again, how exactly the what should have she done scene was anywhere parallelistic to Mikasa's choice killing Eren in order to save the world? Maaan, this just keeps getting worse... I think even Isayama know that it was a plothole, that's why the only answer to this question is only Ymir knows. What a masterpiece!
"Was Ymir in Mikasa's head from the beginning or what? " Yes How did she know? It's Ymir. The omnipotent god that can see and connect to all eldians. It's also as clear as day that Mikasa liked Eren. And Eren didnt know because he refused to see. He doesnt think he deserves love so he pushes people away. Hes done that since he was a child. I think youve overcomplicated this for yourself. The base question is answered which means all the rest doesnt really come into play. Mikasa loved Eren. But she needed to break free of that love to end the suffering of the 2000 year titan war. Just yeah. All the other questions seem just not relevant after we clear up the few base questions. Now because the story is a lot more nuanced than superhero stories. The policts continue long after eren is dead. So war and fighting continues. That is separate from ymir. That is human nature after genocide continues to be the only resolve humanity has to its issues.
@@DareToEntertain You are right about the first part about Ymir being in Mikasa's head from the beginning, I already knew, but this still leads me to some of the questions I asked earlier, and the second part, no, Mikasa didn't break free from her love towards Eren, she killed him as a sacrifice in order to save humanity, but she couldn't forgot her love towards Eren, not even in her old age, they made Mikasa's character dirty, her case is nowhere parallelistic to Ymir, and after all of this Ymir realising what she should have done still makes no sense, sacrifising herself was her only choice at that moment, she DIDN'T had a reason to NOT do it at that moment as a mentally abused, tortured girl, who was in "love" with the King, which wasn't even true love like in Mikasa's case, it wasn't her fault, it wasn't her who started the war... What she should have done? Instead she should have regenerate herself after the King called her a slave, she should have protect her daughters, then she should have kill the King by herself, yes... Why? Because she finally had a reason to do it.
In my personal experience, when I first read the manga I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. But seeing it animated, it was a 10/10. Even thought it was definitely improved from the manga, it was generally the same narrative ending. Idk if I've just matured over the past 2 years, but I genuinely can't believe there was a time I hated this ending.
@@CombatUnit621 Says the kid going all over the comment section insulting people that like the ending. Bet you've been crying so hard the past week seeing anime onlies loving the ending, even seeing multiple big content creators calling it the best anime ever. Keep coping, lil bro.
@@CombatUnit621 My opinion is my own, lil buddy. You ending haters tried so hard to get people to hate the ending and your 2 year long efforts led to nothing. It's too obvious just how much you're coping 💀
People would ask me if this is the greatest anime I would say no it is not perfect but it is the one which will have a special place in my heart and make me think about it even in the future at least for 10 years .
I’ve started coming more to the realization that, although I thought that the ending was rushed(the ending does not explain everything, it leaves us to be the ones to do the explaining with what we are given, and by what we are given I mean the fact that we basically have to go back through seasons 1-3 and 4, that is how circular the storytelling is), I have started feeling that Isayama made the ending the way it is on purpose, and that the ending is perfect, not saying that because of this video for anyone that might be thinking that, it is weird tho for me to get this video recommended after everything I have gone through to understand the ending.
@@Wlof25Perfect in the sense that it's objectively perfect, no matter how much you haters cry. I also love how you always go "pLoThOlEs u IgNorE" and then proceed to list none, because there are none. 💀
@@mrtruman4339 Well, that's ridicilous, because there is no way for media like that to be objectively perfect. It's just fanboyism. You want me to list you plot holes and nonsense? Let's start from a bootstrap paradox. The story, in order to function, created a paradox and doesn't resolve it, so it is built on a contradiction.
@Wlof25 mate that’s literally the plot. That Eren is a slave to literally this paradox. It’s the entire narrative structure that he was never one to have free will. A slave to freedom
I too can't! I love your videos man! AoT started for me when it aired and I thought nothing special of it. Therew as some amazing stand out scenes and episodes. Like EP 6 the Mikasa backstory. EP 21 or 2 with Levi kicking annies ass but also just the insane way be brough us down really making us feel and suffer that defeat. However over all I though it was OK, I gave it a 7/10. Then it took 4 long years for the next season to come out and I didn't watch it. I had forgotten most of the plot and though I needed to rewatch the first season and just remember it being OK so why bother? However then S3 part 1 came out people said it was REALLY good. Still I didn't watch, then S3 part 2 came out and people say that it was a MUST watch and they were right. I watched it all from the start and was just WOW... WOW this is unlike anything I've ever seen before and now I'm sure I will never see anything like it ever again and it's possible I will never see anything as good ever again.
The Only "bad looking" animation in the final episode was Eren colossal vs armins. Just looked a little weird Best thing of AOT will always be the amazing sound track. Didn't realize how awesome it was till my second time rewatching it
I don't think it was perfect (but you yourself acknowledge in the comments that it wasn't meant literally), but I have actually enjoyed the ending overall but there were some plot holes and many ambiguous other things that made me too much confused (i was either stupid to not being able to understand and Isayama was a 1000 IQ 5D chess player, or indeed the story had issues; i initially was more inclined on the former, which left me confused anyway) in the end to have a complete bittersweet taste typical of when you finish a very good or deep series, if you know what i mean. The 3 major things that i found (when i watched) ambiguous or controversial were the Ability of Eren to talk to Mikasa (i wasn't too much focus about it tho, i initially allowed it before the revelation of Armin and Eren); the Eren motivation(s) (the first one was more acceptable and i was hype for that, then it become more more confused) and the ymir stuff (the spear thing was a bit confusing at first since i didn't know if it was a cannonical event or a metaphorical representation to simbolize she was freed by Fritz love; the love story in general of Ymir felt out of place/nowhere and not build up properly despite i would have actually liked the idea). To explain more in detail: 1-Mikasa should be immune to the Founding Titan Power, thus it shouldn't be able to hear Eren at the rumbling and in the final battle(in which he potentially told her off screen she was in his mouth - otherwhise how did she know he was there?- ), having her memories potentially deleted and Ymir shouldn't be able to peak in her brain. I didn't pay attention too much to this tho until the Armin - Eren part. 2- Eren gave too many motivations, which is confusing. At first, like i said, i was hype, then i started to be more and more weirded out by it. Hence some people still argue that Eren did it for his friends while other states that he did it "Just because and not for that". The two reasons are conflictual and cannot coexist as one exclude the other. Beside that, if Eren did that not because of Paradise, his friends, his family, to eliminate the people that hate eldians, etc... but simply because he wanted too beyond these reasons...then the entire build up about the hate/racisms towards eldians, Eren having nightmares/anger for that, Eren being sorry to the refugee kid, etc... become meaningless or at the very least lose important aspects of its relevance. Humanity outside the walls could have been pure and with no war and racism and Eren would have bring anyway the Smoke just because. 3- The Ymir stuff for me is mostly a problem of build up, since the theme of hate and the initial Ymir's story suggested a different direction of the general story (more focus about freedom than love). If Ymir loved that much Fritz, why she didn't regenerate when she could? Fritz didn't even show enough humanity to create a bit of foreshadowing, something that it is instead typical in Aot.
@@keni7426 "It was either marley commits genocide [...] or he does it" Then its motivations where indeed because he wanted protect its people and eliminate the ones that hate Eldians, and when he said that it wasn't for this reason all along he was lying or incorrect, otherwise what you are saying here wouldn't make sense since Eren outerly deny that these ever were his motivations IN THE FIRST PLACE. That's the whole reason why there is a lot of criticism for that scene. If Eren was clear that he did it for his friends and for the reasons you listed i (and many others) wouldn't be confused and i personally would have no problem as this would be in line with the story (like i said, i was hype at the first motivation). But then he quite literally said that those reasons (protecting his friends and eliminating people that hate them) are wrong and weren't ever his motivations in the first place, which left me and many others confused. Indeed it is effectively ambiguous and you for example still believe that Eren did it for its friends. Others (like invaderzzz, a youtuber that made a video about Eren) can say that Eren is a psychopath and he did it not to protect its friends, Paradise or eliminate the hate for Eldians, but just because he wanted to do this beyond that. The ambiguity here is too strong. If that one was his initial reasons (notice that he gave 5 different reasons in total, 2 of them are strongly contradictory of each other), then it would have been much more likely to be a lie, but since it was his final revelation it mud the waters a lot.
@@keni7426 It still doesn't sound right, that's why i think Time travel stuff are always problematic. Even if it was "destined" to do the rumbling, that destiny was decided by the fact that he needed to do it because the outside world was effectively hateful towards them (if not, and it was solely about Ymir, then the fact humanity outside the wall was evil or not would have been irrelevant, thus effectively reducing the importance of the entire build up around such situation). If it was forced to do so because everything was pre-determined, then when he states that saving his friends and eliminate Eldians haters was never his intention, Eren shouldn't have said "in reality it was because i WANTED to" or that he WANTED to see that sight. Even in a deterministic system(like potentially our universe), This imply that there is a degree of will/want/desire from Eren and that will is effectively and completely unrelated to the aforementioned reasons. Not only that, but the last statements of Eren would imply, like i have already noticed, that humanity could have been good and not racist towards Eldians but it wouldn't have matter because he didn't do it to protect his friends, eliminate their enemies, etc... He just did it because he WANTED to. The only way this can be saved if we assume he is lying, but it is annoying because it is not indeed clear in the anime/manga.
@@keni7426 I agree (in the sense i respect) the first part of your comment and i found it very much understandable. One last observation "I don't think the fact that humanity outside the walls have been good warrants any thought" It does warrant thought in the moment when we assume Eren as a violent Psychopathic person that wanted to just see the world with no humans beyond any other reason of hate or protection of his friends. At that point the fact that humans on the other side of the sea were peacefull would have been outerly irrelevant, since his desire to k** everybody outside the wall would exist independently from that. The fact that marley turned against eldians start to lose value because it is not anymore the real factor why Eren wanted humanity to go away. I need to review Isayama Interview and see if he address this (i don't think so, but let me check) or will address this. My theory for some plot holes (like the Ackerman one) and this ambiguity is mostly due to the fact that Isayama (like he already said) tend to forget some details of his own work (hence he need to re-read his work multiple times) and i think in the ending he wanted to add some few last plot twists that IN MY OPINION weren't build up properly compared to many very good plot twist of the series. Hence, i was scared about the finale, since there were quite some things to explain and my fear was it may be hard to do it properly all in the last episode/chapter. Tho, overall the series and the finale was good, it is just that Isayama set the bar so high and on a very logical ground, that these ambiguities (which i don't think they are all there only for metaphorical or poetic reasons) didn't let me appreciate it 100%.
@@keni7426 I don't think this is comparable to a nature vs nurture debate. He clearly state that he wanted to do it not for his friends, the reason if this is nature or not is irrelevant since he have a will that it is not linked to the variable "external hate/protect my people". If we cannot assume that his desires wouldn't be the same if humanity wouldn't be at him and his people, then the reason why he is like that is because humanity is at him and his people, which Eren instead deny. Again, i'm not running on assumptions, because the main issue of that statement of Eren is not that we can assume another alternative timeline (like mikasa did), but it is that it devalue the entire build up that was present in the series around the protection of his friends and the elimination of people that hate eldians in the first place. The whole theme of racism lose value because their racism and will to k**l his friends weren't ever the main driving motivations. This is not an assumption of an alternative timeline, but it is an observation that relate to the canon timeline. The hypothetical was in effort to make you see my point better and how the racism of marley was irrelevant for the will of Eren to k** humanity outside the wall if we take what he said literally. Also your counter-argument to the hypothetical assume if marley was peacefull from the beggining, but marley could have become more peacefull and acceptable after Eren allegedly became a Psychopath. Remember that this is a work of fiction so Isayama can virtually do whatever he wanted. Marley had multiple times to redeem themselves (ex. with Armin Peace talks which we see in the series when they go to Marley). What Eren said basically is that it doesn't matter if they accepted the peace talks, if they are racist or not, if they wanna help Eldians now or not, if they wanna k**l their friends or not: he just wanted to k*** people just because. This is in contrast with the other reasons he gave and how he acted resentfull to the refugee kid like if he DIDN'T WANT TO do it, but HE HAD TO for his people and his friends. So again, your interpretation that he instead did it for his friends is logical, but we have to ignore or not take litteraly what he said in that episode/chapter, otherwise the thing start to lose sense/being ambiguous.
@@keni7426 I apologize in advance for my bad English. "Did he wanted to do it because is innatevily Evil or because the world made him this way?" Which circle back to my point that if it is because the world made him this way, then the will of the world to kill eldians and his friends shouldn't be the main reason as he stated. If Eren made that statement and he escluded a priori that motivation, it means if we take that statement literally such variable is not a relevant factor. "Personality isn't shaped by conscious alone. If one experience trauma..." Again, i know that. But again, this observation is irrelevant to the point, because even if Eren experienced trauma because of any X reason, the motivation (conscious motivation if you wish) he have now isn't driven by the will to protect his friends, eliminate hateful people, etc... but simply because he wants to for something unrelated to that and he states it was like this all along, which make such statement inconsistent with many other scenes. If He WANTED to eliminate Marley because they acted like that, then his statement that this wasn't the reason is effectively wrong. Otherwise if that statement is correct, then protecting his friends from the haters of eldians wasn't really its motive to do the rumbling. "There was no way that this didn't play a role[...]" I remember that this is a work of fiction, so anything can happen. In the series Eren already stated that he was born that way. Indeed, here the major problem if it wasn't born that way and we introduce time travel: Initially Eren had only the ability to send memories to others attack titans with the contact with Zeke. Then in the finale it is revealed Eren have the ability to manipulate events in the past from the future (this is a MAJOR PLOT HOLE, since it is never explained how he could manipulate Dina, and if he can manipulate pure titans or the action of past entities, this leads to massive paradoxes or questions), meaning the reason why Eren became Eren, it was mainly because of Eren, as Eren itself have created a Time loop that cannot be broken without massive consequences. If you argue that such enviromental factors influenced Eren and Eren of the future played a role in such phenomena, then this lead to a loop. A time loop like that create the so called boot-strap paradox (you need to google it and check the explaination to fully understand what i mean), leading to acausality, meaning that the reason on why even us cannot fully know the external underlying causes on why Eren is fully that way is because due to this paradox there is now no clear explaination for that since some relevant enviromental variables now are "uncaused"(or acausal; reason being that Eren messed up with Eren). So even on a Theoretical level there will be no clear reason on why Eren is that way. "I don't think it devalues the racism at all, in fact the racism is part of what he contributed to him as an individual and his desires" If your last statement is true, it means that Eren is wrong or incorrect. I have already stated that you can save that statement by making non-literal interpretations or assuming it is 100% correct or complete. If you take the statement literally we have some problems. Those desires where instigated mostly by Armin before Eren knew any of that stuff about the humanity beyond the walls (and in a time they were relativistically happy children), something they both agree on in that scene. Isayama also confirmed this in the interview (the question was about Eren motivations in relatioship of the refugee kid and AOT last episode): "I think that refers to the fact that Eren was dreaming of going to this world outside of the walls where there was nobody and there was nothing. There was an excitement about this world that was just empty, a clean slate. I don’t really know whether that’s a good or a bad thing, and I don’t really know why that was the ideal that I set up for Eren as a part of this story. " Isayama did not mention clearly that it was because Eren rationalized that he was doing it for its friends (again, in my opinion even Isayama is a bit confused about that...which he basically confirm ; we project complex theory on the authors when sometimes it may just be because the creators of the shows are humans to and not perfect). The author himself doesn't even know why Eren want that, so saying that the racism was the main factor for such will/desire may be just speculation. It is effectively quite ambiguous. This stuff devalues the racism factor by logic. Even if you argue that some factors can "unconsciusly" influence a person, you can recognize that some factors may play a role more than others in triggering a certain phenomena. For example, it would be misleading to say that the fact Eren saw Sasha eating potato all the times was the main reason why he become that way, despite the fact this was effectively an experience of Eren (that may have shape him a bit) and despite the fact that changing that event may have led to some consequences due to butterfly effects and chaos theory. In the same way you can estimate/assume that likely Eren seeing Sasha eating potato had less of an impact than other variables for X motivation, in the same way you can arrive to the logical conclusion that in a story where Racism was the main sole factor, it would have an higher value/significance/impact/importance in influencing Eren than in a Story where it is stated that another variable (having the imagination of the external world being devoid of humans) was the actual main factor. For example (this is just an example to make you understand) an hypothetical story where racism is virtually the only most highly important variable that influence Eren gives more value and importance in impact to it than a story where Eren is the result of 2 different variables (with racism being a factor but potentially and ambiguously being less relevant than the other).
Manga readers had extraordinary brains and expected an extraordinary ending with plot twists instead of a realistic ending. That's why the are pointing out silly excuses to criticise the ending.
Followed the manga and anime since 2013. The manga ending is 5/10 due it's fatal flaws along with unanswered questions and plotholes. The anime ending refined a little though still has flaws, 7/10 or 8/10. Overall Attack on Titan is still 9/10 even with that ending. Is it masterpiece? Sure.
Personally, I like the ending. It is realistic. It's just that in the manga, things were rushed. But guess what, most peoples didn't care and they still certainly do not care about that as well. You know, I never get them. The peoples who only complain for the sake of complaining alone but refuse solutions when they are offered. And now that things have been improved in the anime, some people still decided to be haters just for the sake of it. I understand why people like Cinderella's ending or even the story as a whole because it given a way out of the lives they are living at the moment. But if they came to Attack on Titan and expect such an ending as well, I said that they shouldn't have come to watch Attack on Titan in the first place. And this also leads me to have this question in my head as well. If they don't like how the long term but darkly solution that the Rumbling brought, will they still be okay with the short term but happy and still realistic ending brought by Paradis joined the Allies in the Marley Mid-East War and humiliate Marley internationally? I have a feeling that there will still be some people who are still not going to be happy with this because they wanted the happily ever after or eternal peace, which are impossible.
At the end of the day all of this proves exactly what attack of titan and isayama was trying to get across. People will always find reasons for conflict with their own views just like how people are divided on the ending of attack of titan. If anything that in itself proves that the ending we got is the only way to end it.
@@ashonline77 What you said is absolutely correct. My guess is that even if peoples get to see Paraids joined the Allies and humiliate Marley internationally, some peoples will still not be happy because the end of the war did not bring the end of the cycle of hatred between Marley and Eldia. I know that because Marley will obviously wanted revenge for being humiliated internationally. But that is the point here. Paradis and Marley have cold relations with one another with some nations like the Mid-East Eyalets being Paradis' allies is still the better option than omnicide. As for the future, it will be up to the next generation of both sides of the conflict to deal with. I know it sounds awful. But hey, at least Armin and his friends definitely laid the foundation for them to work on international politics, diplomacy and foreign policy already.
@@lerneanlion Yeah from the encore credit scene it's apparent that the peace treaty proposition from armin and the others likely worked and paradis had hundreds of years of peace way past the lifespan of any of our characters until way in the future probably close or past a 1000 years where war starts again. It shows that at least our characters had peace after the war and even with titans gone for good, humanity will find other reasons for conflict anyway and that history repeats itself.
@@ashonline77 This is why I never get what they are complaining about. Heck, I never get why they wanted Cinderella's ending from series such as Attack on Titan in the first place. If they wanted happily ever after, go for Disney movies. Right? Also, what do you think about Paradis joined the Mid-East Eyalets in the war against Marley and its aftermath that is the Allies emerged victorious in this war of mine? I called it the Heraclius Plan after Emperor Heraclius.
@@lerneanlion If that had happened, I'd imagine marley to be in a similar position to paradis. Small in numbers/ military power from the aftermath of war, hatred against the allied forces without having enough power to do anything about it. They'd probably have to slowly rebuild their military and would likely want revenge when they are strong enough. The cycle continues I guess.
Let's not pretend that this ending didn't try to redeem eren after a genocide Because I don't see this character looked upon as evil as light yagami every body still calls him Chad eren. I don't know what's so Chad about commitng a genocide and saying I had no choice. It's dengerous to see people still sympathize with his character.
I’d have to disagree with your interpretation of Eren, Armin and the overall message of the show here. I think the ending is meant to say that the cycle of hatred will NEVER end but that this shouldn’t stop people from treasuring and striving for those temporary times of peace and freedom that can exist even if in the end it was meaningless. I never really got the notion that AOT ever even remotely proposed a solution to the cycle of hatred let alone said it was as easy as reading history books. There’s also the major flaw of Ymir and Mikasa’s whole arc where they both have to learn how to disobey abusive relationships? But the issue is AOT’s freedom was always an allegory for the cycle of hatred and he curse of fear it imposed upon the world. No one on Paradis loved the titans nor the Marleyans except for the MCs. It comes across as thematically isolated and utterly redundant to the show’s overall theme. I think the ending was good but def not perfect.
"I never really got the notion that AOT ever even remotely proposed a solution to the cycle of hatred let alone said it was as easy as reading history books." Quick correction or at least a further thought on this topic. That isnt to say that the proposed solution is simply doing this. But its how you start. Its more so a reflection on current world politics rather than the show. The anime starts off with the citizens not knowing any history before what their king deems okay. Meaning the people of Paradis were destined to follow any mistakes that their predecessor were gonna make. The entire show has so many different messages or different reasons for why the events happened. The only thing I think that is left to subjectivity rather than objectivity is the viewpoint if you personally can see a world without hate/violence and war. And for me personally I do not see that happening unless we begin to learn from our mistakes. The same goes for Attack on Titan. The cycle continues because the world is too filled with hate. There was no way in a story lead by Eren that a happy result would come. Not one that did not come at the cost of huge amounts of seas filled with blood. And for your point on Mikasa and Ymir I don''t quite follow. I feel like I sorta understand as I have seen similar talking points before on twitter. But I don't fully understand this point of view. The ending wasn't genuinely perfect. But youtube is a game of hyperboly and for a video under 15min I couldnt fit in at least another 15-25min of things I liked. It was all cut. So to fit in nuance of lines that could be slightly different or arcs from previous seasons that could have gone different is all things for a much larger video that I am working on. Thanks for the comment. These types of comments are the entire reasons I makes videos. Makes it that much more fun. Thanks mate.
@@DareToEntertain Love your AOT vids, the perspective of someone utterly dissatisfied with Western media and how it handles story telling, is def one I shared. To clarify, I don't think the King's withholding of history is meant to be allegorical to real world gov teaching propaganda. The Paradis monarchs are exceedingly anti-war and self hating/guilt ridden to the point of damning their own people, innocent people to slaughter. It doesn't really track as a metaphor. As for Mikasa-Ymir, to elaborate at least how I interpreted AOT's definition of freedom, it ties into Darwinist themes of life as illustrated by Zeke, life's goal is reproduction and any threat that hampers its reproduction is imposing on it the curse of fear. That absence of that fear would thus be freedom. The cycle of hatred ties into that, via social Darwinist themes the show consistently harkened back to, even as far back as S1 Ep6 when Mikasa regains the will to live by remembering how a mantis killed a butterfly. Natural selection as enacted by humans upon eachother is the root of the cycle of hatred and it is this conflict ingrained in human nature which imposes upon humanity the curse of fear. Hence why Eren's true plan to free the world wasn't killing everyone else, but becoming the icon of that cycle, and dying. The fundamental question of AOT to me was always about whether or not the cycle of hatred can be overcoming. IMO based on the ending I think the answer is no, but that there's always hope that you can have some peace, some freedom even if temporary or limited, and to never give up hope. Two literary pieces of evidence are as such. Armin's comments on the shell, which I think pretty obviously represents hope for freedom, its right by Eren's feet, close but small, and he couldn't see it because he was always looking into the distance. IMO its saying Eren couldn't appreciate the small sliver of hope for even a small victory because he was too concerned with a permanent long term solution. Second piece of evidence is an exchange between Erwin and Pyxis, wherein Erwin says war won't end until there is one man left standing. Pyxis states that he hoped for a better answer. I think this exchange sums up the message of the show best, you should hope for a better answer even though there probably isn't one. So where does Mikasa and Ymir's escape from being a slave to the orders of the ones they love, whom are abusive in some way to them? It doesn't. The Eldians hated the titans. The Eldians hated the Marleyans. This sort of abusive love angle never ties into the Darwinistic(biology), Social darwinistic(socio-political) or Realist(IR) themes of the series nor does it tie into the opposite such as the liberal school of IR for example. It exists thematically isolated from the larger themes of the series and leaves me confused as to what Isayama was trying to say. It neither supports nor refutes Realism and Social Darwinism. It just kinda exists.
@@DareToEntertain I feel like maybe I've grown a little in the years since reading the manga ending. What made me feel like it was all pointless now I realise Eren did complete his goal of keeping his loved ones safe for their lifetime.
I 100% can see this. As said in the video the blocking of where action is or is coming from was lost on me at times in the manga. And that meant I had to do backtracking of wait what’s going on? I am so happy for both. The manga has so many things that I wish were in the anime. And vice versa. Just good that we have both.
Hey man thanks for your video on AoT! You should really go and read Berserk! That is a masterpiece! On another note... I wish too i never saw Berserk, Vinland Saga or even AoT. Because after those show with which i grew up like Dragon Ball, feel very flat and boring (to be clear, DB is still a master piece in his category)
All time favorite show! Thanks Yams! Enjoyed the ending! If someone would be willing, please help me understand these things: Why did Eren need the Warhammer Titan? What was the significance of Eren and Historia's conversation about the baby? Why did Ymir lend Eren her power if Mikasa was the one to free her? What happened to the hallucigina? If Eren had done nothing, would Marley have still committed genocide against Eldians? Could Eren not do 100% rumbling?
Eren needed that to break out of prison. That was a red herring. To throw viewers off but also connects to the earlier thread where they wanted Historia to have children to breed to have more people with royal blood. Because he has the founder. Him and her would make sense from a perspective of governments burocracy. Because Eren understood Ymir's pain. But it took Mikasa's choice to end the cycle. It seemingly disappeared when ymir called it back and ended the titan curse. Yes. Marley would have wiped out Eldia to get back the founding titan, Attack titan and then the others they stole. Plus to steal all the minorals. Like that Gas thing He didnt foresee it being 100%. He only ever saw 80% in his visions.
What did you guys think of the ending? Did you think it was perfect?
Everything has flaws.
To be real. Yes. But that doesn’t quite work for a video title sadly. But because of this episode it has become my favourite TV show period ever so it’s literally as close as it’s ever gonna get in the medium for me.
What did you think of it?
i liked the ending especially the animation
The first time I watched the episode, it felt like a lot of things were happening and I wasn't keeping up with it. The exposition we get about "Life" from Zeke, some info about Ymir, Eren and Mikasa cabin scene, the dialogue between Eren & Armin and not to forget, crazy action scenes happening all around involving the ancient titans and some back and forth sequences but upon a re-watch i definitely enjoyed this episode so much more. I don't think the ending is perfect mainly because there are certain things about Ymir which are still a little unclear, except for that I loved everything else. Overall a good conclusion to possibly the best fictional story I've come across.
No man, to me it was trash.
I dont think any piece of Art will mean as much to me as Attack on Titan ever in my lifetime.. This was truly one in a lifetime series and I consider myself lucky to have witnessed it.. These memories will stay with me forever...
Same, it is also because nobody else would even dare make a story like this. Pretty crazy to think this was Isayama's first manga
@@adsafgasgasdfasdf”The world is cruel” this is what AoT all about . It’s the reality. I don’t know how old you are . But I’m sure you realize that one day your friends, families and lover will die , include yourself . Are you going to hate your life ?
Isayama San stated it numerous time there is no happy ending for AoT many years ago. We all already knew that.
Meanwhile majority of anime are for kids . There are plenty of joys and happiness you looking for.
As an adult AoT is the only anime I watched in the last 15 years, the best probably the last.
Shinzo wo sasakeyo💙
@@adsafgasgasdfasdf your name is ironic lol
The talk zeke and armin had about life really hit me because I too felt like zeke for a long time and armin saying that life is about the trivial small moments that you enjoy really made me realize that I do have some kind of meaning to my existence, and I’m not just here to continue growing the world
@@CombatUnit621 wats so funny
THis is the power of a good story. I'm glad you feel better :)
Now that it's done, I'm gonna watch AOT again from start to finish. AOT will probably stay in my number 1 spot as the greatest anime I've watched for a long time. Great video btw!
I started my rewatch recently. I think m that’s a great idea. Thank you for the comment. The shows in my number one spot too. I just love being about to talk for 15mins with people. Just thanks for the support.
AoT will probably be my favorite piece of media for a very long time
@@DareToEntertainfacts bro. Tbh if isayama wasn’t as stressed and put like 50% of the effort he had with s3 it woulda been masterful
Literally my favorite story ever told. Whether it be show, movie, game, book whatever.
I will always cherish the final scene with Reiner and his mother. ''I didn't need anymore''. At that moment, my mother and I just started crying and we hugged while watching the ending. I've never experienced such an emotional experience while watching a show.
Erens and Armins last scene together was the epitome of the Power of friendship for me. One is sharing his sins with the other.
Literally even after doing all this research and constant hours of working on this video. I found even more meaning in the sequence when people on twitter were discussion the shell and every occurrence its appeared and the reasoning. There is still 1000s if not 10000s of words worth of discussion still left. Man I love those two boys.
Epitome???
@@biggreenblobyes epitome
Armin dished out his criticism at the same time comforted Eren
In fact this episode elevated Armins character Soo much
My favorite show of all time, thank you AOT, thank you Hajime. I can’t wait to revisit it in a year or two, I’ll never forget it.
This episode has solidified it as my new favourite show.
I'm going to rewatch it again within a few weeks
what about the next ten years?
A small detail I really like was that Eren, Mikasa, and Armin died in the same order they ran up the hill.
Yep! And armin still visiting their grave in the credits? That just hurts. I get emotional even thinking about it.
@@DareToEntertain wait what? I thought they said once you inherit one of the titan powers you get to live 13 more years. It was stated in the final episode too. If that is the case than surely armin dies before mikasa cause she is shown to die of old age. Did i miss anything or did i get it wrong?
@@Madorik123 Yeah this is easy to explain. Eren removing the titans from the world and Ymir denouncing the vow. All the curses dropped. All the titan powers are gone. Meaning everyone. Including the warriors gang got to live long lives.
@@DareToEntertain oh i get it now. Thank you!
@@Madorik123Jean even said to Reiner that it is a shame his life got extended 😂
The ending fits perfectly to what AOT is all about. I'm glad they didn't get pressured to make huge changes to the ending just to make some of the fans happier. For me, this show will go down in history as the greatest show of all time. Isayama got balls of steel to write a story like this.
Same
Anyone who denies it is on some next level shit. I mean spider diagram plot holes level of shit
I would have liked a whole episode in the cabin, another with eren and armin's conversation and another clearly depicting Ymir's relationship with King Fritz. I'm perfectly fine with the ending itself but I think if they had fleshed out these specific parts of the story, less people would have felt betrayed
@@LuisSierra42 I agree thats my only issue with ending.
But nonetheless its 8/10.
Why was it good
Honestly, so much happened with such colossal stakes that I couldn't think straight for much of the episode, I was enthralled into it and terrified for every character for the entire battle, and once the episode ended, all I could think was "This was monumental". With further analysis of the episode, I can confidently say it's a masterpiece and thank Isayama for giving us the best story I have ever seen in an anime.
I started watching AOT in 2015. I was 12 years old at the time (pls don't tell my parents) and I'm 20 years old now. It has always been on my mind and I will continue to think about it for many more years to come. I thought the ending was perfectly executed and I'm glad that you enjoyed it as much as I did. I'm gonna go watch your Vinland Saga video next. I love your stuff!
I started in 2015 as well
2015 gang here as well.
How do you only have 6k subscribers? The way you put your words and thoughts together is just mesmerizing and you state your opinion in a way that it's almost cinematic!! I loved this video and I also loved the ending of attack on titan!
@@CombatUnit621 You missed my point. I wasn’t talking about his opinion on the ending, I was talking about how he expresses his opinion and puts his words together. Only thing I stated about the ending was that I loved it. Never said it was perfect.
We should've gotten a moment between Connie and his mom.
I would have loved that and hell even jean’s mum woulda be nice. Those two characters especially Connie did get the least. Funny how nearly every characters parents was there who were alive hell even Eren’s dad showed up.
It was perfect. I'm on the side of it being a masterpiece. The animation was insane, and I got the feels, I was crying like the whole episode, it was so good but bittersweet.❤
Captain Levi was amazing, I shouted when he got his revenge and I cried when he saluted his comrades after the battle. The show was amazing.
I am glad They were able to convey the message correctly in anime . 😊
To me, Attack on Titan will forever be the greatest show ever created. It’s easily my favorite work of fiction. The heartache and pure cinematic bliss of what Hajime Isayama created will likely never be topped. I’ve shared this show with my friends, and it’s become incredibly meaningful to us. This terrible, bittersweet ending is absolute perfection.
I love your videos, and I hope you keep posting! I would HIGHLY recommend Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, and I’d especially love to hear your thoughts on it. It’s the only ever show I’ve seen that comes close to the way Attack on Titan made me feel. If you find another show that does that for you, please make a video on it, because I want to hear about it.
Thank you so much for the support. Attack on Titan has really been a show to get closer to my audience in the best way possible. Its so special and close to all of our hearts.
FMAB is outstanding. I absoutely want to cover it but just lack the time to work on it. Next 3 videos are locked in and I dont have time to really fit any in for a little while. FMAB, Chainsaw Man, Eva, And then the New DC animated movies are very much on my radar to cover here on the channel.
SHINZOU WO SASAGEYO!!
I’m looking forward to it! Love your videos, keep up the good work!
AOT did what GOT couldn’t do land the ending and have majority of your fans like it. What a masterpiece.
What is GOT?
@@junglestickss Game of thrones
Idk I would say they still failed a bit with the transformation of Eren into a villain, just felt a little forced. But hey, he did say himself "I am an idiot"
@@jamess.2491how? It's been HEAVILY foreshadowed since S.1
@@biggreenblob foreshadowing doesn't always equal proper character development. plus they were completely inconsistent with the foreshadowing in the flashbacks, like retconning stuff and then bringing it back in.
First of all, I want to say that this was a good and well-edited video despite me disagreeing with most of the points. Here's some of my counter arguments:
The Walter White comparison with Eren doesn't work because Eren wasn't given any options. It was either he does a full Rumbling and kills 100% of the outside world or Paradis gets destroyed. There was no other option to accomplish his goal. Meanwhile Walter had many other options that could've achieved his goal of financially supporting his family after his death. One of the examples is when Liam offered a job to Walter with excellent pay and top-notch health insurance. Walter declined this offer out of his ego as he thought this offer was given because of pity. If his family was his #1 priority, he would've accepted this offer despite his ego because they are his number one priority. But he didn't, he chose a path of crime when he didn't need to. That's why it makes sense when he says he WANTED it for himself and he liked it. This was not the case for Eren.
Also you brought up how the ending was sad, when in reality it's quite the opposite. What makes it so sad? All of the main characters lived long and peaceful lives and Paradis wasn't destroyed until hundreds of years. It's said because Paradis was destroyed anyways? Well that doesn't make sense since we aren't emotionally invested to Paradis when it was destroyed. Is it sad because 80% of the outside world was trampled? Well that can be considered sad but again, we aren't emotionally attached to the people who got killed, which makes us not be that emotional over it. People felt more Hange's death than Paradis getting destroyed and 80% of the outside world getting trampled, because they were emotionally attached to her. It's like if 20 people die in a shooting, most people reading the news won't cry about it. But if it were a family member, most would cry. So again, how is it sad? Because Eren died? He's one character. Only one. How does him dying change everything and make it sad? This dude murdered 80% of the world to "save his friends" (which is pretty stupid) and we should feel bad for him? I don't think so.
You mention that the scene where Eren breaks down over Mikasa is perfect but it really isn't. Him breaking down over Mikasa is essentially him being a crybaby because why would someone whine over their sister being with another man after knowing they're going to murder 80% of the outside world? Eren should not even be THINKING about Mikasa during that scene, he should be talking about more important things in one of the last conversations he has with his best friend, like about how he's going to kill 80% of the outside world. If Mikasa more important to him than murdering innocent people, then why didn't he think of her when he was dying in multiple occasions (inside a titan, in the cave with Historia)? Also Armin is a hypocrite and makes no sense. Armin always preaches non-violence and diplomacy through talking but he punches Eren when all he did was talk (during the table scene). This is hypocritical and he is never called out for this. Also Armin punches Eren when he says something about Mikasa but not when he talks about murdering MILLIONS of innocent people. Another thing, you mention that he always wanted to be in a romantic relationship with Mikasa, but he has never wanted that. He was never romantically interested in her, until the ending, which shows how he was retconned even more. I would really like someone to name me ONE scene in which Eren showed romantic feelings for Mikasa.
But yeah, those are some of my points, hopefully you can see where I'm coming from and maybe I can change your opinion a bit.
"Maybe i can change your opinion a bit" weird framing. What do you get out of "making" someone dislike an ending just because you did? 🤨
I also applauded, that they made Armin ALSO condemn himself for his actions. Even though he was forced, didn't make his deed any less worse. Him aknowledging that he'd see Eren in hell felt so... satisfying. That he'd carry his sins with him and knows full well that they'd be next in line. War won't stop, but it will continue when rebellion starts. Until then they had plenty of time to life in peace without the past of other nations showing intense prejudice and hatred on eldians for now.
I am beyond happy that my brother decided to show me AoT a couple of months ago after he got into it cause it has become my new favorite piece of media which I’m still trying to wrap my head around, I never expected an anime that isn’t connected to anything I’ve liked before to take that spot instead of something related to Sonic, Marvel, or DC, especially since I thought Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes would never be beat for that spot but god dang it if this show wasn’t so amazing on so many levels! (I also think I might be a bit traumatized when it comes to character deaths, Iron Man in Endgame is still the most upsetting to me because of how he was a character I followed and loved for basically my whole life but man, Eren, Erwin, and Sasha’s deaths especially still hurt so freaking badly 😫)
In episode 1 of Attack on Titan, the narrator said, "On that day, mankind received a grim reminder...." it was Armin.
In the last episode, Armin again narrated "The story of what we've seen. Let's tell them all of it. "
Looping to the whole series of ATTACK ON TITAN, of Armin telling US the story 👏👏👏
He's right
Thanks Leon. So happy youve finally seen this. Been so long in the making.
Great discussion. I also love how Mikasa got a good chunk of spotlight in the finale. She was done dirty by cutting off important character moments during WiT era. Anyway, AoT is truly a special show.
Going back to the manga and realising just how many moments were cut hurts.
Attack on Titan was also my first ever anime, and I went into it skeptical and with low expectations because of my preconceived notions of what anime was. It was insane how I immediately felt immersed into the show from the beginning and how much of an impact it has had on me since. It’s honestly sad to think about how many people won’t ever see this masterpiece just because of its medium.
I could not understand the vitriol online, this ending was amazing. Anything that makes me weep openly like Schindler's List did, is great cinema in my book, and it had a reference of it in there to boot!
10/10 would cry again 💔❤️
@@CombatUnit621 congrats on being a condencending prick on the internet, there's clearly alot about the deeper plot, and character arcs, that went right over your head.
I think the people who hate the ending, are mostly woke leftist that feel bad for a story where profound violence was a part of the solution. They wished for an ending where everyone just sang kumbaya in the end, depicting a world where it was possible to win and live without fighting.
Is AoT your favourite anime? It sure isn't gonna lose top spot for me for quite a while it seems.
My favorite show, mabey even my favorite piece of art. I am not saying its the best or even that is perfect. I am saying that i was born to watch any enjoy it.
The perfect response. " I was born to watch and enjoy it. love that.
It’s my favourite piece of media ever. I’ve never seen a more complex narrative. This show genuinely changed my life, like it changed my aspect on what life is, like that conversation between Armin and Zeke. It showed the cruelty of war and the human condition of endless violence, and how this communal hate can bring destruction. I will most probably never witness anything better than this.
There are few pieces of media and art that moved me as much as AoT did. It takes the top spot together with breaking bad of best shows I have ever seen.
Yea i watched it since season1 in 2013 but it became my fav around season 2. It took over my life
Idk if you understood that in the manga, Eren also admits he wants to destroy everything and would've done it regardless.
Thank you for this video, i was so speechless when i finished AoT, that i am unable to just let it go ! Awesome experience, glad to have YT to share and watch other fan reactions :))
I started watching AOT when I was 16. Attack On Titan was a story about 3 friends who live in a world seemingly perfect considering, but filled with pain and anguished caused by monsters that est people.
Fast forward to current I am now 27, married and own a business with my wife. I have been an enormous consumer of media be it music, TV, books, movies and anime alike. Attack On Titan has remained the most well thought out and executed piece of fiction I've ever come across. It is so impactful even that AOT isn't even the anime I watch the most of yet I am aware of it being King of The Hill.
It is such an accomplishment to create a show whose episodes become instant classics upon release.
I will rewatch the entire series and recollect my past memories when this used to be all about monsters eating people and how even then it was so simple, plain and digestible. (No pun intended)
Thank you Hajime Isayama.
fun fact: the song in the end credits is made by the people behind the original introduction
Linked Horizon. And also the woman's voice is Mikasa's voice actor Yui Ishikawa.
First half of the song is also a direcr refrence to another linked horizion song "13 winters" infact its kind of a sequel to that song based on the lyrics.
I can’t wait to rewatch it again and again ❤️
Starting my rewatch now. It's all I can do. Can't accept its actually over.
What did they expect to happen? They all jump in erens mouth and try and talk him out of it for 20 minutes and they all live happily ever after with eren and he's forgiven for destroying nearly the entire world?
They were delusional expecting something groundbreaking instead of a realistic ending.
I loved it. It did not stray from what the show was about from the very beginning. It left as many questions as it answered, this show has been shrouded in mystery from day 1. I love how open ended it truly was after erens story had been told.
Ever since I was in elementary to now AOT was always the show that was talked about in my friend group, back then I thought anime was weird and thought it was odd to watch entertainment from another country, for years I always AOT as just another popular anime like DBZ and Naruto with weird monster people that eat humans that my friends used to talk about and I’d roll my eyes over I only started watching anime in summer 2022 when I saw recoreacts on tiktok reacting to Nagatoro a minor seasonal anime really good but no big deal. After watching it was when I realized the genre and style of Anime , after watching a few more rom com anime’s I finally decided to watch a shonen and what better way to do then with Aot , my mindset entering the show was to see what all the hype was about , after watching the first season , words can’t describe what I just watched . I never knew tv shows could be done in such a way , it was truly eye opening. I started binge watching every season up to part 3 where I was fought up with the story. I may not have been with the show since day one but I sure love the tv show and all the aspects about it ,. Even though the final episode wasn’t what I wanted , it sure was an experience watching such a legendary show unfold.
Perfect ending and forever my favorite anime
You get to witness a LOT of pieces of entertainement in life. Books, movies, whatever. Many of these are meh, many of these are amazing. And sometimes, you get something like this, a litteral gem that goes beyond entertainement and makes you think deep about life. Something so good, that people either worship it or hate it. AoT is exactly that. It made people angry, happy, sad, it made us laugh, reflect and cry. Good art creates emotions, and the wider panel of emotions, the better the art. AoT is a masterpiece and will be remembered.
Great analysis, this is my favorite story of all time so I am happy that anime fans loved the ending as I did when the manga ending came out
AoT was the first Anime ever for me so even that makes it special to me. But what truly touches me deep inside is the character development their past and of every single on the relationships between the characters and the further development of those relationships between them! The world and everything that happened! It was a journey where i had the feeling being one of the side characters not a particular one just myself sticking with them survived all those stuff and seeing the end being with them witnessing the change of relationships and events in the world with so many things that either where forseeable or not... AoT will always be my favourite Anime of all time...
That was a wild ride and I'm glad I have been part of it. You are right it is special and i'm having a hard time letting this story go too, it will stay with me forever.
Shinzou wo sasageyo, thank you Attack on titan
Eren knew humanity will always revert back to a cycle of violence. He understood both sides eventually but made sure his loved ones had a chance to live fulfilling lives at the cost of his sacrifice. Despite ending being so bleak it’s reflective of the world we live in today unfortunately. Humans will never change
The ending was heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time. It saddened me that war still happened after all the sacrifices that everyone made. But it gives me comfort knowing that, everyone that did survive? Well, they lived a full and peaceful life.
Its just unfortunate that humanity will never be content with peace. There will always be conflict, there will always be war.
Titans weren't the reason why humans fought, its cause its in our nature. We can't help but tear each other apart. Its an inevitable cycle.
The greatest show ever created man i have never felt this empty ,how can some create a show like this ❤, truly a masterpiece.
To me currently the greatest ANIME of all time. What a fantastic masterpiece. Glad i was alive to experience it.
Great video and analysis
Can't believe it's over what a journey it was thank you to everyone involved in this show. It will always be close to my heart and remain my favorite story. Never have I cried more watching anything before this episode. AoT was special to me.
It's been months and I still can't stop thinking about it. The ending was beautiful. I'm an anime only and watched it with my sister's and our mom and it was some of the most tense, emotional entertainment I've ever had the pleasure of watching.
All the haters will just have to cope and seethe. What we got was beautiful. Not perfect, but life never is.
Love this. For me perfect represents the feeling. The time I had, the journey is one I wouldn't change at all. Its ending is everything I wanted from an adaptation. Man I love AoT
I was introduced to this show by watching A Slap on Titan with my friends. I thought it looked interesting enough that I went back and watched the real episodes. I instantly fell in love. Fortunately this was in 2015 so I only had to wait 2 years for season 2. I can't remember what chapter I started reading the manga on but I know I went back to read through the beginning of the time skip. As someone who loves history, especially WWI and WWII, seeing this modern military while also using Titans was fascinating for me. I couldn't wait for it to be adapted.
2019 came around and Attack on Titan was one of the few things that got me through the hell of Covid. In fact, looking forward to Part 2, 3, and the last one helped me get through a lot. As pathetic as it sounds, AOT was one of the few things that kept me going in this horrible society. Unfortunately I lost my grandmother a year ago, someone I promised to never forget about as she took care of me since I was 2 years old, and called me her soul mate. I never forgot that, and when I spoke to her one last time, I told her I will always see her as my soul mate. Now seeing the ending of AOT hurts even more because I see myself as Mikasa. I promised her even when I (hopefully) find someone else I will never forget her.
Now that it's over, I don't know what to do. Life still isn't easy and I don't have much to keep going, but like Eren, I need to keep moving forward.
I love the finally. Because I understood the answer to "whats the point". Armin stated it to Zeke.
I watched Attack on Titan because I fell in love with its charakters. I loved Sasha, Conny, the stupid squandering between Eren and Jean. I loved seing Armin, seing the Sea for the first time and Mikasa showing unfamiliar, even clumsy cuteness in this moment of relief. I loved seing Sasha stealing meat and I loved getting to know Levis team.
True, many are not there anymore. But their pasing was only such a gutpunch because we loved them. And we loved them for this small pointless moments that made us happy and laugh.
Experiencing this was the point and we wouldn't follow them if we didn't like the charakters. It was always about the humans connection they shared with each other and we sympathied with them. Human connections are the point.
Love the words man thank u so much❤️
BRO. I thought the same thing when he said "Ymir is Invincible". LOL
Fr i cried when Eren said its Titan Time
Twas so sad. Eren's best scene by far.
10 years ago my previous 5 year relationship ended and I was in the the worst mental state of my life. Desperate to find something to distract me, I came across AoT, my first of many anime.
10 years later, I'm about to have daughter with the love of my life. AoT fundamentally helped me balance myself, immersed me an epic story with characters I could relate to, and spectacle I could awe at. No other story has come close to the impact of AoT to me personally and I don't think I'll ever find another story that will affect my life as much tbh.
Thanks for a brilliant video!
my favorite scenes apart from the action are armin and zeke convo the cabin scene and eren and armin's convo was so emotional and the ending scene with mikasa broke me
You asked us to share how we got into AOT so I hope you’re ready to strap yourself in for a long story. I originally watched the English dub of AOT on Toonami back in 2013. I recorded it every week and slowly made my way through season 1, and while it never truly gripped me, I enjoyed it for what it was. After that, years went by with no word of a season 2, and I slowly lost interest. I started thinking that the show wasn't really all that good and that people kind of overhyped it. Before long, I honestly started to think that I wouldn't care to see the continuation of it. It certainly didn't help that a lot of manga readers during that time had also lost interest in the series, claiming it got boring and too political.
However, the popularity of the show always kept it around. While I checked out other anime and made friends with people who liked anime, AOT was always a show that people were excited to talk about and see more of. It was just that popular, especially with a normie crowd who knew very little about anime in general. Naturally, when it was finally time for season 2 to release, the hype slowly started to reignite. Somehow, I even found myself starting to grow interested again. After all, if everyone else was going to be watching season 2 after all of this time, then why shouldn’t I?
So, in anticipation of the new season, I invited a bunch of friends over to my house to marathon all of season 1 in a single day. We had both veterans that had seen it before and those that were completely fresh, and it was honestly a magical experience. I was suddenly reminded of all the small amazing moments that had originally blown me away, all while watching newcomers get to experience them for the first time. Eren sacrificing himself to save Armin, Eren coming back as a titan, Pixis’s amazing speech on top of the wall. Perhaps the most memorable moment though (and my favorite) was when the cadets were being offered the chance to join the scouts, and so many of them walked away in fear but a chosen few stayed behind. I felt so bad for the characters, but held such great respect for them too. They were terrified of what they were signing up for, but they realized that it was a threat that needed to be confronted, and they just couldn’t bring themselves to walk away from that. Just as they devoted their hearts to the cause, I suddenly found myself devoting my own to this show.
I watched season 2 with English subs as it aired. I then watched it a second time in the dub on Toonami. And then finally a third time when I gathered all of my friends to marathon it together, just as he had with season 1. And I have to say, season 2 was so good at dropping little hints that you would only ever pick up on with repeat viewings. From the Reiner and Bertholdt reveal to the question of what titans actually are to who is the true enemy facing the people of the walls. After watching season 2 so many times, I actually consider it a masterpiece. It really pushed the series forward and forced you to start asking questions and truly wonder just how deep this mystery went. Clearly, there was a much larger narrative than what was being presented here, and the show rewarded you for noticing that.
After that, I debated between reading the manga or just waiting for the next season. But considering how long it had taken for season 2 and how hyped I already was to continue the story, it didn’t take long for me to break. I dove into the manga from the beginning, refreshing myself on the entire story before making my way through the Uprising and Return to Shiganshina arcs. I have to say, that reread really made the basement reveal all the more worth it. To have something so mind blowing revealed while also having it perfectly tie into every event the story had shown us so far. It was amazing. Some of the best content I have ever read.
I soon caught up with the Marley arc, right at the chapter where Eren and Reiner reunited in that basement. From there, I read each new chapter month to month, and oh what an exciting ride it was. You never knew what was going to happen next. Who you could trust. How everything would be resolved. Even after answering so many questions, the mysteries continued, and the future was uncertain. All we could surmise from the bleak struggle was that these characters probably weren’t going to get a happy ending. In the end, the conclusion was tragic, but I feel like it was exactly what it needed to be, and I was honestly satisfied with it.
I’m so thankful to have become so heavily invested in AOT, especially after a time where I thought I had lost all interest in it. I’m thankful to have friends that came in with fresh perspectives and helped me reignite my own passion for the series. It's a passion that has never since died out, even after all of these years. It’s been such an incredible journey, and one that I’ll never forget. Thank you, Isayama. Thank you, Attack on Titan.
AOT is going to be that show that hits harder and is more relevant 10 years into the future. Hell, it's relvant now
The story of Attack on Titan will always be one that is relevent. And man its going to age well. Same goes for Vinland Saga
All those anime reactors gotta give their thx to AoT too....AOT always been that anime that give em the boost in terms of views n subs😁😁
I also found a lot of similarities between Ymir and Mikasa. This episode showcases that Ymir was a slave for love, that’s why she happily did everything Fritz wanted and even after his death. For 2000 years, Ymir was waiting for someone who was brave enough to make the biggest sacrifice, the sacrifice of love, one she couldn’t make for 2000 years. And that person was Mikasa. And her wearing that scarf in the end when Eren told her to forget him, shows that she is no longer a slave to love, but continues to remember him nonetheless. Definitely the most beautiful and at the same time tragic love story I’ve ever witnessed.
I slightly disagree with how you describe Mikasa as a slave to love. Yimir loved king fritz because she didn’t know what real love looked like. Mikasa loved Eren because he cared for her(even if he didn’t like to show it) in the end Mikasa killed eren because it was her only choice if she didn’t the rest of humanity would have died and the titans curse would continue. Mikasa exercised her own free will both when she protected eren and killed him which is something yimir didn’t know how to do. Yimir learned how to use free will from mikasa example. This would allow yimir to free herself from her servitude and end the titans curse. But Mikasa never truly wanted to be “Free” of eren because to her eren was never a burden to be free of. In the end they learned that Mikasa was never a slave and yimir was never in love. The sad conclusion that we are left to face is that yimir never got to be free and Mikasa never got her love because in the end they both sacrificed what they wanted the most for the greater good.
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@@boxdogvids1798 wow. Very well said. Exactly what I wanted to convey. They both had to sacrifice what they loved the most for a better world.
@@Cinematic_Ally I got a little carried away but what do you expect when we are talking about one of the greatest pieces of fiction of all time
@@boxdogvids1798 Nah you didn’t get carried away, it’s a perfect understanding. And yeah it’s one of the greatest pieces of fiction I’ve ever seen. It was only my second anime and before that I used to think anime was just for kids. I’ve started neon genesis evangelion now and that’s also really good so far.
Loved It, What an amazing story, what an amazing ride❤
worst ending ive had the dissatisfaction of seeing sadly
Really?
I got into the show late, around season 4 part 1, so maybe i didn't have the same connection over time as prior who were there from jump. But I'm glad people are liking the ending, because even when the manga came out i was satisfied and i felt like the anime fleshed it out even better!
What's the name of the piece of music that plays when Armin weeps for Eren after Mikasa kills him?
From memory it’s a new version of the song the Dogs off the season 2 album.
My man, thank you so much! I was having such a hard time finding it. I wish the moment of Armin weeping could have been longer.@@DareToEntertain
attack dez nuts
Japan is just killing it right now and has had two of my favorite stories told across any medium end and stick the landing with numerous others currently on going. The Final Fantasy 14 arc that ended with Endwalker and now Attack on Titan. They are just telling stories studios in the West are either not creative enough to tell, unwilling to tell or both.
My boyfriend knows good entertainment. I’ve learned to dive into whatever he suggests. Including AOT. My suggestion, coming from him through me, is Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood. And in watching your hour long video on AOT, knowing your internal battle with Star Wars, Clone Wars and Dark Disciple. Absolutely fantastic works.
Reiner turned on the doom music and soloed against all titans.
Small part of me wanted to do a little edit and include something like Doom music or john wick mode the song but I deicded to leave it be as is in the show.
Do you think you will ever write a what if story about this show?
The way i got into the series is kind of amusing. Back when it was just season I hated it. I didn't hate it because I thought the characters were terrible or the pacing or the animation, I hated it because I didn't understand the hype. I based my opinions on tge show strickly from the bits from the show or the tribute game. My reasoning range from understand to straight up dumb. But eventually I ended up watching it because I got spoiled something that i needed answers to. "How and why can the main character turn into a titan?"
The first 2 episodes shattered my expectations on what the story was, its genra, its characters. I was originally going to watch until they gave the answers but the story bear hugged me until i couldn't look anywhere else. Suddenly finding myself rewatching the first season multiple times, getting my sister, my brother, even my mother into it. I started buying and reading the manga, and owning t shirts.
Its really amazing that a hater like me suddenly be came a big fan of attack on titan.
I am still waiting for the English dub to come out.
Man... I gave up on that train so long ago. When part 3 took over like 7 months I was just shocked. It should not be that long.
@@DareToEntertain I can understand that
I wish you luck. I love the AoT dub.
@@DareToEntertain same here as well.
@@DareToEntertain sub is better imo.. but I do think dub is still good..
The People who didn't like the ending were mad the Yeagerists were right, simple as
Tragedy is the beauty of AOT.
But i will add that AOT may be tragic but it was never hopeless.
The fact that the ending ED rescued my favorite childhood ship, it's all i needed.
And i don't care for whatever reasons people watched this magnificent show:whether it was for the the warfare,blood, destruction,thrill or suspense..noone has the right to judge or make anyone feel less about themselves for their motives because at the end we all are watching to feel the impact of connection.
Whether you've watched the series or are a manga reader there is no room for toxicity.
Reasons to why it’s a terrible ending.
1 How did his friends survive the titans? They lose Sasha to 3 titan shifters and 2 kids but lose no one against 100s of titan shifters?
2. Zeke dying shouldn’t of stopped the rumbling. Ymir’s goal was to destroy the world so why didn’t Ymir just continue the rumbling after zeke died?’
3. Zeke should of stopped the rumbling earlier because his dad telling him “ please stop Eren” didn’t give him motivation to die so he can stop it but armin showing a ball did?
4. How did mikasa free Ymir?😂 and no it isn’t because she was able to kill her lover and move on no no no she didn’t move on for crap she still had that scarf on and got buried next to Eren.
5.Ymir doesn't have Stockholm’s syndrome, if she did why did she not heal herself when a spear went through her? If she had Stockholm’s syndrome she would of had the will to live for the king. Ymir’s character is terrible. She is in the paths because she is a slave to Fritz but disobeyed him twice?
6 Eren ch139 (last 30 mins)
“ I’m an idiot”
“I don’t know why I did the
rumbling”
“ I moved forward for mikasas choice”
“ I did it to portray u as heroes” 💀💀💀💀
“ I would of killed them all if u didn’t stop me”
Pre ch139
“Ill keep moving forward until I destroy my enemies “
“The only way to end the cycle of hatred is to bury it”😂
7. What was the point of destroying 80%? eldia got destroyed. What did he achieve by doing that? He made the outer world hate eldians more and doomed paradises safety which he promised ( Eren only cared about Eldias safety not cycle of hatred so eldia bombing themselves is irrelevant for him)
8. What was the reason for the rumbling ?
It defo wasn’t to make them look like hero’s because Eren said if u didn’t stop me I would of killed them all which is a contradiction.
9. Erens mom death was pointless. He already said he killed her because it wasn’t bertholdt time yet which means it wasn’t to fuel his hate for titans💀He already had the determination to lead him were he already is. When mikasa’s parents got killed he said “ if anyone tried to take away my freedom I won’t hesitate to take theirs” he also said to his dad that the kidnappers were scum and animals that needed to die. Eren before his moms death wanted to join the survey corps and venture outside the walls. If he found out the world wants to kill him he would of started the rumbling because they tried to take his freedom and we knew what Eren thinks about that. Erens view of freedom was killing everyone outside the walls so he 100% has the determination to do the rumbling. (Anyone who says Eren view of freedom wasn’t killing everyone u need to rewatch the last episode where he was talking to ramzi the kid
10. In ch130 ( episode where the ships get destroyed in Marley) Eren thinks about his mom getting eaten by the titan and it being his main motivation for the rumbling which makes no sense since Eren should know that he killed his mom because this is when he sent armin to paths and told him everything. This could only mean that isayama changed the ending a year before it finished.
The best proof of this is that historia’s baby was born the same day as ch139 there was a fan theory of what they thought would happen which looks like this was what isyaama planned originally because the baby was born same day and all developed disappeared with historia which wouldn’t make sense if he didn’t change the ending. (Eren was meant to leave his titan crystal in paradise and touch his baby with royal blood to active the rumbling again)
11.The whole Eren at the cabin scene. How did eren interact with mikasas memories? She is an Ackerman he Shouldn't be able to do that. people who are saying this is a different timeline pls provide ur proof. If it is a different timeline why does Eren have titan marks? Why do they also grow bigger the closer Eren gets to death? They become massive when she is holding erens head representing that it was a fake memory. The bigger the titans marks the closer she gets to reality
12. Eren crying like a baby for mikasa is a retcon. When did Eren ever cry like this for mikasa? He alway pushed mikasa away from him. When Eren found out he has a 8 years to live mikasa was in jail with him, did he care about her then? No he didn’t even care about mikasa when he found out he dosnt have long left to live even isayama said mikasa is a mother figure for him so how exactly does him crying like a baby fit his character?
13. Eren said to armin he will show them the memories after he gets killed but shows it to mikasa before he gets killed?
14. How did Eren turn into the collosal titan after zeke died?😂😂😂
15. Eren in ch131 (episode with ramzi) he said “I wonder what will mom think” this is a plot hole. Eren knows he killed his mom so why is he saying that?
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you know, It's Ironic how Eren died which In the first season of episode three when he said he would kill them all, he predicted his death and the end of titans. I absolutely loved the ending but when I heard Armin and Mikasa's cry, my ass cried a river.
Yeah Attack On Titan is very special.
I had heard a lot of crap about the ending and how it's horrible and was afraid that it might ruin my AoT experience.
But thank God I don't read the manga and watched the Anime ending
And Ymir choosing Mikasa was also a very big plothole that didn't made too much sense. Was Ymir in Mikasa's head from the beginning or what? How did she know that she loved Eren? Because if I'm not wrong Eren didn't know. Or he knew and she didn't and he told her? If Eren didn't told her, why did she choose her? Because she already knew the outcome? Or because she was a girl? Wtf? But if she knew she loves him or if she knew the outcome, why it was necessary for her to kill Eren? Why was she in Mikasa's head in the first place? If Eren told her that she loves him why Eren's answer was only Ymir knows? Did she tried to manipulate Mikasa or what? Did she forced her to kill Eren or what? If Ymir was able to feel Mikasa's feelings, this means she was able to feel other people's feelings too? Why wasn't Historia was the one who saved her then? She loved the Farmer, maybe she didn't and it was just a forced thing? Or Annie? Did Ymir thought that love is about killing the other? And again, how exactly the what should have she done scene was anywhere parallelistic to Mikasa's choice killing Eren in order to save the world? Maaan, this just keeps getting worse... I think even Isayama know that it was a plothole, that's why the only answer to this question is only Ymir knows. What a masterpiece!
"Was Ymir in Mikasa's head from the beginning or what? " Yes
How did she know? It's Ymir. The omnipotent god that can see and connect to all eldians. It's also as clear as day that Mikasa liked Eren. And Eren didnt know because he refused to see. He doesnt think he deserves love so he pushes people away. Hes done that since he was a child.
I think youve overcomplicated this for yourself. The base question is answered which means all the rest doesnt really come into play. Mikasa loved Eren. But she needed to break free of that love to end the suffering of the 2000 year titan war.
Just yeah. All the other questions seem just not relevant after we clear up the few base questions. Now because the story is a lot more nuanced than superhero stories. The policts continue long after eren is dead. So war and fighting continues. That is separate from ymir. That is human nature after genocide continues to be the only resolve humanity has to its issues.
@@DareToEntertain You are right about the first part about Ymir being in Mikasa's head from the beginning, I already knew, but this still leads me to some of the questions I asked earlier, and the second part, no, Mikasa didn't break free from her love towards Eren, she killed him as a sacrifice in order to save humanity, but she couldn't forgot her love towards Eren, not even in her old age, they made Mikasa's character dirty, her case is nowhere parallelistic to Ymir, and after all of this Ymir realising what she should have done still makes no sense, sacrifising herself was her only choice at that moment, she DIDN'T had a reason to NOT do it at that moment as a mentally abused, tortured girl, who was in "love" with the King, which wasn't even true love like in Mikasa's case, it wasn't her fault, it wasn't her who started the war... What she should have done? Instead she should have regenerate herself after the King called her a slave, she should have protect her daughters, then she should have kill the King by herself, yes... Why? Because she finally had a reason to do it.
In my personal experience, when I first read the manga I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. But seeing it animated, it was a 10/10. Even thought it was definitely improved from the manga, it was generally the same narrative ending. Idk if I've just matured over the past 2 years, but I genuinely can't believe there was a time I hated this ending.
@@CombatUnit621 Cope harder
@@CombatUnit621 Says the kid going all over the comment section insulting people that like the ending. Bet you've been crying so hard the past week seeing anime onlies loving the ending, even seeing multiple big content creators calling it the best anime ever.
Keep coping, lil bro.
@@CombatUnit621 My opinion is my own, lil buddy. You ending haters tried so hard to get people to hate the ending and your 2 year long efforts led to nothing. It's too obvious just how much you're coping 💀
People would ask me if this is the greatest anime I would say no it is not perfect but it is the one which will have a special place in my heart and make me think about it even in the future at least for 10 years .
The one thing that really bothered me was... Why the hell could Eren suddenly turn into a colossal titan? That made absolutely no sense
That made sense as Eren was controlling Ymir at that time as a slave.
This video was beautiful
I’ve started coming more to the realization that, although I thought that the ending was rushed(the ending does not explain everything, it leaves us to be the ones to do the explaining with what we are given, and by what we are given I mean the fact that we basically have to go back through seasons 1-3 and 4, that is how circular the storytelling is), I have started feeling that Isayama made the ending the way it is on purpose, and that the ending is perfect, not saying that because of this video for anyone that might be thinking that, it is weird tho for me to get this video recommended after everything I have gone through to understand the ending.
The ending is dogshit
@@atharvakunte2662Cope harder.
I’ll never understand what glue was these manga readers sniffing. This ending was perfect.
Perfect in what sense? You liked it, therefore it is perfect? The end has so many plot holes and nonsense that you fans like to ignore.
did you even read the manga ending?
@@Wlof25Perfect in the sense that it's objectively perfect, no matter how much you haters cry.
I also love how you always go "pLoThOlEs u IgNorE" and then proceed to list none, because there are none. 💀
@@mrtruman4339
Well, that's ridicilous, because there is no way for media like that to be objectively perfect. It's just fanboyism.
You want me to list you plot holes and nonsense? Let's start from a bootstrap paradox. The story, in order to function, created a paradox and doesn't resolve it, so it is built on a contradiction.
@Wlof25 mate that’s literally the plot. That Eren is a slave to literally this paradox. It’s the entire narrative structure that he was never one to have free will. A slave to freedom
I too can't! I love your videos man! AoT started for me when it aired and I thought nothing special of it. Therew as some amazing stand out scenes and episodes. Like EP 6 the Mikasa backstory. EP 21 or 2 with Levi kicking annies ass but also just the insane way be brough us down really making us feel and suffer that defeat.
However over all I though it was OK, I gave it a 7/10. Then it took 4 long years for the next season to come out and I didn't watch it. I had forgotten most of the plot and though I needed to rewatch the first season and just remember it being OK so why bother?
However then S3 part 1 came out people said it was REALLY good. Still I didn't watch, then S3 part 2 came out and people say that it was a MUST watch and they were right. I watched it all from the start and was just WOW... WOW this is unlike anything I've ever seen before and now I'm sure I will never see anything like it ever again and it's possible I will never see anything as good ever again.
The Only "bad looking" animation in the final episode was Eren colossal vs armins. Just looked a little weird
Best thing of AOT will always be the amazing sound track. Didn't realize how awesome it was till my second time rewatching it
It reminds me of neon genesis evangelion ending.
I don't think it was perfect (but you yourself acknowledge in the comments that it wasn't meant literally), but I have actually enjoyed the ending overall but there were some plot holes and many ambiguous other things that made me too much confused (i was either stupid to not being able to understand and Isayama was a 1000 IQ 5D chess player, or indeed the story had issues; i initially was more inclined on the former, which left me confused anyway) in the end to have a complete bittersweet taste typical of when you finish a very good or deep series, if you know what i mean.
The 3 major things that i found (when i watched) ambiguous or controversial were the Ability of Eren to talk to Mikasa (i wasn't too much focus about it tho, i initially allowed it before the revelation of Armin and Eren); the Eren motivation(s) (the first one was more acceptable and i was hype for that, then it become more more confused) and the ymir stuff (the spear thing was a bit confusing at first since i didn't know if it was a cannonical event or a metaphorical representation to simbolize she was freed by Fritz love; the love story in general of Ymir felt out of place/nowhere and not build up properly despite i would have actually liked the idea).
To explain more in detail:
1-Mikasa should be immune to the Founding Titan Power, thus it shouldn't be able to hear Eren at the rumbling and in the final battle(in which he potentially told her off screen she was in his mouth - otherwhise how did she know he was there?- ), having her memories potentially deleted and Ymir shouldn't be able to peak in her brain. I didn't pay attention too much to this tho until the Armin - Eren part.
2- Eren gave too many motivations, which is confusing. At first, like i said, i was hype, then i started to be more and more weirded out by it. Hence some people still argue that Eren did it for his friends while other states that he did it "Just because and not for that". The two reasons are conflictual and cannot coexist as one exclude the other.
Beside that, if Eren did that not because of Paradise, his friends, his family, to eliminate the people that hate eldians, etc... but simply because he wanted too beyond these reasons...then the entire build up about the hate/racisms towards eldians, Eren having nightmares/anger for that, Eren being sorry to the refugee kid, etc... become meaningless or at the very least lose important aspects of its relevance.
Humanity outside the walls could have been pure and with no war and racism and Eren would have bring anyway the Smoke just because.
3- The Ymir stuff for me is mostly a problem of build up, since the theme of hate and the initial Ymir's story suggested a different direction of the general story (more focus about freedom than love). If Ymir loved that much Fritz, why she didn't regenerate when she could? Fritz didn't even show enough humanity to create a bit of foreshadowing, something that it is instead typical in Aot.
@@keni7426 "It was either marley commits genocide [...] or he does it"
Then its motivations where indeed because he wanted protect its people and eliminate the ones that hate Eldians, and when he said that it wasn't for this reason all along he was lying or incorrect, otherwise what you are saying here wouldn't make sense since Eren outerly deny that these ever were his motivations IN THE FIRST PLACE.
That's the whole reason why there is a lot of criticism for that scene. If Eren was clear that he did it for his friends and for the reasons you listed i (and many others) wouldn't be confused and i personally would have no problem as this would be in line with the story (like i said, i was hype at the first motivation).
But then he quite literally said that those reasons (protecting his friends and eliminating people that hate them) are wrong and weren't ever his motivations in the first place, which left me and many others confused.
Indeed it is effectively ambiguous and you for example still believe that Eren did it for its friends. Others (like invaderzzz, a youtuber that made a video about Eren) can say that Eren is a psychopath and he did it not to protect its friends, Paradise or eliminate the hate for Eldians, but just because he wanted to do this beyond that.
The ambiguity here is too strong. If that one was his initial reasons (notice that he gave 5 different reasons in total, 2 of them are strongly contradictory of each other), then it would have been much more likely to be a lie, but since it was his final revelation it mud the waters a lot.
@@keni7426 It still doesn't sound right, that's why i think Time travel stuff are always problematic.
Even if it was "destined" to do the rumbling, that destiny was decided by the fact that he needed to do it because the outside world was effectively hateful towards them (if not, and it was solely about Ymir, then the fact humanity outside the wall was evil or not would have been irrelevant, thus effectively reducing the importance of the entire build up around such situation).
If it was forced to do so because everything was pre-determined, then when he states that saving his friends and eliminate Eldians haters was never his intention, Eren shouldn't have said "in reality it was because i WANTED to" or that he WANTED to see that sight.
Even in a deterministic system(like potentially our universe), This imply that there is a degree of will/want/desire from Eren and that will is effectively and completely unrelated to the aforementioned reasons.
Not only that, but the last statements of Eren would imply, like i have already noticed, that humanity could have been good and not racist towards Eldians but it wouldn't have matter because he didn't do it to protect his friends, eliminate their enemies, etc...
He just did it because he WANTED to.
The only way this can be saved if we assume he is lying, but it is annoying because it is not indeed clear in the anime/manga.
@@keni7426 I agree (in the sense i respect) the first part of your comment and i found it very much understandable.
One last observation
"I don't think the fact that humanity outside the walls have been good warrants any thought"
It does warrant thought in the moment when we assume Eren as a violent Psychopathic person that wanted to just see the world with no humans beyond any other reason of hate or protection of his friends.
At that point the fact that humans on the other side of the sea were peacefull would have been outerly irrelevant, since his desire to k** everybody outside the wall would exist independently from that.
The fact that marley turned against eldians start to lose value because it is not anymore the real factor why Eren wanted humanity to go away.
I need to review Isayama Interview and see if he address this (i don't think so, but let me check) or will address this.
My theory for some plot holes (like the Ackerman one) and this ambiguity is mostly due to the fact that Isayama (like he already said) tend to forget some details of his own work (hence he need to re-read his work multiple times) and i think in the ending he wanted to add some few last plot twists that IN MY OPINION weren't build up properly compared to many very good plot twist of the series. Hence, i was scared about the finale, since there were quite some things to explain and my fear was it may be hard to do it properly all in the last episode/chapter.
Tho, overall the series and the finale was good, it is just that Isayama set the bar so high and on a very logical ground, that these ambiguities (which i don't think they are all there only for metaphorical or poetic reasons) didn't let me appreciate it 100%.
@@keni7426 I don't think this is comparable to a nature vs nurture debate.
He clearly state that he wanted to do it not for his friends, the reason if this is nature or not is irrelevant since he have a will that it is not linked to the variable "external hate/protect my people".
If we cannot assume that his desires wouldn't be the same if humanity wouldn't be at him and his people, then the reason why he is like that is because humanity is at him and his people, which Eren instead deny.
Again, i'm not running on assumptions, because the main issue of that statement of Eren is not that we can assume another alternative timeline (like mikasa did), but it is that it devalue the entire build up that was present in the series around the protection of his friends and the elimination of people that hate eldians in the first place. The whole theme of racism lose value because their racism and will to k**l his friends weren't ever the main driving motivations.
This is not an assumption of an alternative timeline, but it is an observation that relate to the canon timeline.
The hypothetical was in effort to make you see my point better and how the racism of marley was irrelevant for the will of Eren to k** humanity outside the wall if we take what he said literally.
Also your counter-argument to the hypothetical assume if marley was peacefull from the beggining, but marley could have become more peacefull and acceptable after Eren allegedly became a Psychopath. Remember that this is a work of fiction so Isayama can virtually do whatever he wanted. Marley had multiple times to redeem themselves (ex. with Armin Peace talks which we see in the series when they go to Marley). What Eren said basically is that it doesn't matter if they accepted the peace talks, if they are racist or not, if they wanna help Eldians now or not, if they wanna k**l their friends or not: he just wanted to k*** people just because.
This is in contrast with the other reasons he gave and how he acted resentfull to the refugee kid like if he DIDN'T WANT TO do it, but HE HAD TO for his people and his friends.
So again, your interpretation that he instead did it for his friends is logical, but we have to ignore or not take litteraly what he said in that episode/chapter, otherwise the thing start to lose sense/being ambiguous.
@@keni7426 I apologize in advance for my bad English.
"Did he wanted to do it because is innatevily Evil or because the world made him this way?"
Which circle back to my point that if it is because the world made him this way, then the will of the world to kill eldians and his friends shouldn't be the main reason as he stated.
If Eren made that statement and he escluded a priori that motivation, it means if we take that statement literally such variable is not a relevant factor.
"Personality isn't shaped by conscious alone. If one experience trauma..."
Again, i know that. But again, this observation is irrelevant to the point, because even if Eren experienced trauma because of any X reason, the motivation (conscious motivation if you wish) he have now isn't driven by the will to protect his friends, eliminate hateful people, etc... but simply because he wants to for something unrelated to that and he states it was like this all along, which make such statement inconsistent with many other scenes.
If He WANTED to eliminate Marley because they acted like that, then his statement that this wasn't the reason is effectively wrong.
Otherwise if that statement is correct, then protecting his friends from the haters of eldians wasn't really its motive to do the rumbling.
"There was no way that this didn't play a role[...]"
I remember that this is a work of fiction, so anything can happen. In the series Eren already stated that he was born that way. Indeed, here the major problem if it wasn't born that way and we introduce time travel:
Initially Eren had only the ability to send memories to others attack titans with the contact with Zeke. Then in the finale it is revealed Eren have the ability to manipulate events in the past from the future (this is a MAJOR PLOT HOLE, since it is never explained how he could manipulate Dina, and if he can manipulate pure titans or the action of past entities, this leads to massive paradoxes or questions), meaning the reason why Eren became Eren, it was mainly because of Eren, as Eren itself have created a Time loop that cannot be broken without massive consequences.
If you argue that such enviromental factors influenced Eren and Eren of the future played a role in such phenomena, then this lead to a loop.
A time loop like that create the so called boot-strap paradox (you need to google it and check the explaination to fully understand what i mean), leading to acausality, meaning that the reason on why even us cannot fully know the external underlying causes on why Eren is fully that way is because due to this paradox there is now no clear explaination for that since some relevant enviromental variables now are "uncaused"(or acausal; reason being that Eren messed up with Eren).
So even on a Theoretical level there will be no clear reason on why Eren is that way.
"I don't think it devalues the racism at all, in fact the racism is part of what he contributed to him as an individual and his desires"
If your last statement is true, it means that Eren is wrong or incorrect. I have already stated that you can save that statement by making non-literal interpretations or assuming it is 100% correct or complete.
If you take the statement literally we have some problems.
Those desires where instigated mostly by Armin before Eren knew any of that stuff about the humanity beyond the walls (and in a time they were relativistically happy children), something they both agree on in that scene.
Isayama also confirmed this in the interview (the question was about Eren motivations in relatioship of the refugee kid and AOT last episode):
"I think that refers to the fact that Eren was dreaming of going to this world outside of the walls where there was nobody and there was nothing. There was an excitement about this world that was just empty, a clean slate. I don’t really know whether that’s a good or a bad thing, and I don’t really know why that was the ideal that I set up for Eren as a part of this story. "
Isayama did not mention clearly that it was because Eren rationalized that he was doing it for its friends (again, in my opinion even Isayama is a bit confused about that...which he basically confirm ; we project complex theory on the authors when sometimes it may just be because the creators of the shows are humans to and not perfect).
The author himself doesn't even know why Eren want that, so saying that the racism was the main factor for such will/desire may be just speculation.
It is effectively quite ambiguous.
This stuff devalues the racism factor by logic. Even if you argue that some factors can "unconsciusly" influence a person, you can recognize that some factors may play a role more than others in triggering a certain phenomena.
For example, it would be misleading to say that the fact Eren saw Sasha eating potato all the times was the main reason why he become that way, despite the fact this was effectively an experience of Eren (that may have shape him a bit) and despite the fact that changing that event may have led to some consequences due to butterfly effects and chaos theory.
In the same way you can estimate/assume that likely Eren seeing Sasha eating potato had less of an impact than other variables for X motivation, in the same way you can arrive to the logical conclusion that in a story where Racism was the main sole factor, it would have an higher value/significance/impact/importance in influencing Eren than in a Story where it is stated that another variable (having the imagination of the external world being devoid of humans) was the actual main factor.
For example (this is just an example to make you understand) an hypothetical story where racism is virtually the only most highly important variable that influence Eren gives more value and importance in impact to it than a story where Eren is the result of 2 different variables (with racism being a factor but potentially and ambiguously being less relevant than the other).
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I cant even imagine how manga readers thought this is still bad
Manga readers had extraordinary brains and expected an extraordinary ending with plot twists instead of a realistic ending. That's why the are pointing out silly excuses to criticise the ending.
Ending is not even close to perfect
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Followed the manga and anime since 2013. The manga ending is 5/10 due it's fatal flaws along with unanswered questions and plotholes.
The anime ending refined a little though still has flaws, 7/10 or 8/10.
Overall Attack on Titan is still 9/10 even with that ending. Is it masterpiece? Sure.
Personally, I like the ending. It is realistic. It's just that in the manga, things were rushed. But guess what, most peoples didn't care and they still certainly do not care about that as well. You know, I never get them. The peoples who only complain for the sake of complaining alone but refuse solutions when they are offered. And now that things have been improved in the anime, some people still decided to be haters just for the sake of it. I understand why people like Cinderella's ending or even the story as a whole because it given a way out of the lives they are living at the moment. But if they came to Attack on Titan and expect such an ending as well, I said that they shouldn't have come to watch Attack on Titan in the first place.
And this also leads me to have this question in my head as well. If they don't like how the long term but darkly solution that the Rumbling brought, will they still be okay with the short term but happy and still realistic ending brought by Paradis joined the Allies in the Marley Mid-East War and humiliate Marley internationally? I have a feeling that there will still be some people who are still not going to be happy with this because they wanted the happily ever after or eternal peace, which are impossible.
At the end of the day all of this proves exactly what attack of titan and isayama was trying to get across. People will always find reasons for conflict with their own views just like how people are divided on the ending of attack of titan. If anything that in itself proves that the ending we got is the only way to end it.
@@ashonline77 What you said is absolutely correct. My guess is that even if peoples get to see Paraids joined the Allies and humiliate Marley internationally, some peoples will still not be happy because the end of the war did not bring the end of the cycle of hatred between Marley and Eldia. I know that because Marley will obviously wanted revenge for being humiliated internationally. But that is the point here. Paradis and Marley have cold relations with one another with some nations like the Mid-East Eyalets being Paradis' allies is still the better option than omnicide. As for the future, it will be up to the next generation of both sides of the conflict to deal with. I know it sounds awful. But hey, at least Armin and his friends definitely laid the foundation for them to work on international politics, diplomacy and foreign policy already.
@@lerneanlion Yeah from the encore credit scene it's apparent that the peace treaty proposition from armin and the others likely worked and paradis had hundreds of years of peace way past the lifespan of any of our characters until way in the future probably close or past a 1000 years where war starts again. It shows that at least our characters had peace after the war and even with titans gone for good, humanity will find other reasons for conflict anyway and that history repeats itself.
@@ashonline77 This is why I never get what they are complaining about. Heck, I never get why they wanted Cinderella's ending from series such as Attack on Titan in the first place. If they wanted happily ever after, go for Disney movies. Right?
Also, what do you think about Paradis joined the Mid-East Eyalets in the war against Marley and its aftermath that is the Allies emerged victorious in this war of mine? I called it the Heraclius Plan after Emperor Heraclius.
@@lerneanlion If that had happened, I'd imagine marley to be in a similar position to paradis. Small in numbers/ military power from the aftermath of war, hatred against the allied forces without having enough power to do anything about it. They'd probably have to slowly rebuild their military and would likely want revenge when they are strong enough. The cycle continues I guess.
Let's not pretend that this ending didn't try to redeem eren after a genocide
Because I don't see this character looked upon as evil as light yagami every body still calls him Chad eren. I don't know what's so Chad about commitng a genocide and saying I had no choice. It's dengerous to see people still sympathize with his character.
I’d have to disagree with your interpretation of Eren, Armin and the overall message of the show here. I think the ending is meant to say that the cycle of hatred will NEVER end but that this shouldn’t stop people from treasuring and striving for those temporary times of peace and freedom that can exist even if in the end it was meaningless. I never really got the notion that AOT ever even remotely proposed a solution to the cycle of hatred let alone said it was as easy as reading history books.
There’s also the major flaw of Ymir and Mikasa’s whole arc where they both have to learn how to disobey abusive relationships? But the issue is AOT’s freedom was always an allegory for the cycle of hatred and he curse of fear it imposed upon the world. No one on Paradis loved the titans nor the Marleyans except for the MCs. It comes across as thematically isolated and utterly redundant to the show’s overall theme.
I think the ending was good but def not perfect.
"I never really got the notion that AOT ever even remotely proposed a solution to the cycle of hatred let alone said it was as easy as reading history books."
Quick correction or at least a further thought on this topic. That isnt to say that the proposed solution is simply doing this. But its how you start. Its more so a reflection on current world politics rather than the show. The anime starts off with the citizens not knowing any history before what their king deems okay. Meaning the people of Paradis were destined to follow any mistakes that their predecessor were gonna make.
The entire show has so many different messages or different reasons for why the events happened. The only thing I think that is left to subjectivity rather than objectivity is the viewpoint if you personally can see a world without hate/violence and war. And for me personally I do not see that happening unless we begin to learn from our mistakes.
The same goes for Attack on Titan. The cycle continues because the world is too filled with hate. There was no way in a story lead by Eren that a happy result would come. Not one that did not come at the cost of huge amounts of seas filled with blood.
And for your point on Mikasa and Ymir I don''t quite follow. I feel like I sorta understand as I have seen similar talking points before on twitter. But I don't fully understand this point of view.
The ending wasn't genuinely perfect. But youtube is a game of hyperboly and for a video under 15min I couldnt fit in at least another 15-25min of things I liked. It was all cut. So to fit in nuance of lines that could be slightly different or arcs from previous seasons that could have gone different is all things for a much larger video that I am working on.
Thanks for the comment. These types of comments are the entire reasons I makes videos. Makes it that much more fun. Thanks mate.
@@DareToEntertain Love your AOT vids, the perspective of someone utterly dissatisfied with Western media and how it handles story telling, is def one I shared. To clarify, I don't think the King's withholding of history is meant to be allegorical to real world gov teaching propaganda. The Paradis monarchs are exceedingly anti-war and self hating/guilt ridden to the point of damning their own people, innocent people to slaughter. It doesn't really track as a metaphor.
As for Mikasa-Ymir, to elaborate at least how I interpreted AOT's definition of freedom, it ties into Darwinist themes of life as illustrated by Zeke, life's goal is reproduction and any threat that hampers its reproduction is imposing on it the curse of fear. That absence of that fear would thus be freedom. The cycle of hatred ties into that, via social Darwinist themes the show consistently harkened back to, even as far back as S1 Ep6 when Mikasa regains the will to live by remembering how a mantis killed a butterfly. Natural selection as enacted by humans upon eachother is the root of the cycle of hatred and it is this conflict ingrained in human nature which imposes upon humanity the curse of fear. Hence why Eren's true plan to free the world wasn't killing everyone else, but becoming the icon of that cycle, and dying. The fundamental question of AOT to me was always about whether or not the cycle of hatred can be overcoming. IMO based on the ending I think the answer is no, but that there's always hope that you can have some peace, some freedom even if temporary or limited, and to never give up hope. Two literary pieces of evidence are as such. Armin's comments on the shell, which I think pretty obviously represents hope for freedom, its right by Eren's feet, close but small, and he couldn't see it because he was always looking into the distance. IMO its saying Eren couldn't appreciate the small sliver of hope for even a small victory because he was too concerned with a permanent long term solution. Second piece of evidence is an exchange between Erwin and Pyxis, wherein Erwin says war won't end until there is one man left standing. Pyxis states that he hoped for a better answer. I think this exchange sums up the message of the show best, you should hope for a better answer even though there probably isn't one.
So where does Mikasa and Ymir's escape from being a slave to the orders of the ones they love, whom are abusive in some way to them? It doesn't. The Eldians hated the titans. The Eldians hated the Marleyans. This sort of abusive love angle never ties into the Darwinistic(biology), Social darwinistic(socio-political) or Realist(IR) themes of the series nor does it tie into the opposite such as the liberal school of IR for example. It exists thematically isolated from the larger themes of the series and leaves me confused as to what Isayama was trying to say. It neither supports nor refutes Realism and Social Darwinism. It just kinda exists.
In the Cabin Mikasa is Pregnant....
Regarding your plea for recommendations from your "I wish I could unwatch AoT", I think Psycho-Pass would be right up your alley.
To be honest I don't know what happened, reading the manga ending I hated it but somehow the small changes in the anime... I think I get it now.
the different media forms can make things that dont seem like they work suddenly work. Its odd that.
You’ve been gas lit my guy by emotions and music
@@bander-Coolb You know what I'm okay with that. My ass loves a good cry.
@@DareToEntertain I feel like maybe I've grown a little in the years since reading the manga ending. What made me feel like it was all pointless now I realise Eren did complete his goal of keeping his loved ones safe for their lifetime.
I 100% can see this. As said in the video the blocking of where action is or is coming from was lost on me at times in the manga. And that meant I had to do backtracking of wait what’s going on? I am so happy for both. The manga has so many things that I wish were in the anime. And vice versa. Just good that we have both.
none of my friends liked the show like they didnt even finish.
Hey man thanks for your video on AoT!
You should really go and read Berserk! That is a masterpiece!
On another note... I wish too i never saw Berserk, Vinland Saga or even AoT. Because after those show with which i grew up like Dragon Ball, feel very flat and boring (to be clear, DB is still a master piece in his category)
AOT is one of a kind
It's the GOAT
All time favorite show! Thanks Yams! Enjoyed the ending! If someone would be willing, please help me understand these things:
Why did Eren need the Warhammer Titan?
What was the significance of Eren and Historia's conversation about the baby?
Why did Ymir lend Eren her power if Mikasa was the one to free her?
What happened to the hallucigina?
If Eren had done nothing, would Marley have still committed genocide against Eldians?
Could Eren not do 100% rumbling?
Eren needed that to break out of prison.
That was a red herring. To throw viewers off but also connects to the earlier thread where they wanted Historia to have children to breed to have more people with royal blood. Because he has the founder. Him and her would make sense from a perspective of governments burocracy.
Because Eren understood Ymir's pain. But it took Mikasa's choice to end the cycle.
It seemingly disappeared when ymir called it back and ended the titan curse.
Yes. Marley would have wiped out Eldia to get back the founding titan, Attack titan and then the others they stole. Plus to steal all the minorals. Like that Gas thing
He didnt foresee it being 100%. He only ever saw 80% in his visions.