Hilarious ad break happened: they were talking about Harry seeing events happen from Voldemort's POV or not (around 16 mins in) and Ben said "Harry would pop into his mind and Voldemort would be like..." but an ad started playing and finished his thought as "Hey man, do you like Dr. Pepper?"
Harry doesn't seem like the type to actually think Play Station is stupid. He probably even would have enjoyed playing some games if Dudley would have let him. But Dudley throwing a fit and throwing his Play Station out the window is verry stupid!
Sometimes there are videos how parents destroy phones or TVs of their children. My neighbour even once told me a story that he destroyed his sons PS5. That is so dumb. They bought it, it's their own money they just throw out of the window.
I think Harry was calling the result of Dudley’s tantrum stupid rather than the PlayStation. “Dudley chucked the PlayStation out of the window.” Then Harry explains what a PlayStation is and goes on “Bit stupid really because now he doesn’t have games to play” Or I guess more calling Dudley stupid for now having a broken PlayStation Which I think a lot of people have broken something in a moment of anger and then had that realization of “how could I have been so stupid to do that?” after calming down
I broke my own SNES because my dad wouldn't let me have it in my room and also wouldn't let me play it on HIS! TV, but he played it all the time so I just smashed it.
1:12:50 I find it funny that Harry explains it as _"a sort of computer thing you can play games on,"_ not just because it reminds me of the Daily Prophet calling a gun _"a kind of metal wand that Muggles use to kill each other,"_ but also because there's no way Sirius would understand what a computer is in the first place.
Sirius could have taken Muggle Studies to annoy his parents and learned about computers at some point. After all, he also was into motorcycles and had pictures if Muggle pin-up girls in his room to annoy his parents.
@@PerovNigma Arthur has a basic idea about Muggle things, but he's clueless when it comes to the finer details. It's like how he knows that Muggle post requires the use of stamps, but he's unable to tell Molly how many stamps are needed for the letter she sends to the Dursleys.
@@Lockfire1 Unless the Muggle Studies professor was a huge nerd! They might have wangled one just for learning about the new thing and couldn't stop talking about it to their confused and bored students. ;)
@@almudd Well, yes, but-I DO think that there's a chance that Remus would *NOT* have contacted Sirius, not only because he didn't know how far his Patronus would have to go, but *also* because the poor man would undoubtedly be under some sort of surveillance himself, sleeping rough as he was, after losing the cushy Hogwarts job... :(
I don't know if there is anything out there with this exact idea but there IS fanfic of 'what if Sirius didn't escape Azkaban' which makes Harry's third year completly normal so Remus just gets to tell Harry more cause there is no 'don't tell Harry that the mass murderer who just escaped was his parents' best friend and betrayed them and is the reason they're dead.' I just finished one called 'The Chronolgy of a Wolf' on AO3.
I think you guys are forgetting what it was like at 14. I totally understand Harry not wanting to tell Dumbledore, the Wesleys and Remus. The previous 3 years he was treated like a child every time there was trouble, which cost him trips to Hogsmeade and other fun. Had Harry reported the dream, Dumbledore may have kept him at the Dursleys since his protection is greater there. I agree with you that he should’ve told Remus or Albus, but I totally get why 14-year old Harry didn’t.
Actually it perfectly reasonable for Harry not to contact Remus and Dumbledore. Sirius Reach out to Harry while Remus/Dumbledore didn't. No card, letter from then on birthdays or other occastions, so Harry thought of them only as a teachers.
With harry seeing through Frank's eyes, does make sense if you remember. Voldemort read Franks mind. The memory started in his hut so Voldemort would see he had no wife and lived alone and would make sense it would cut off at his death. Just my theory but that does make the most sense.
@@lahlybird895 Probably yes, he might have read the memories to see that no one knows he came here and then from there fast forwarded to the present and kept staying in his head to detect any lies he spoke.
i always thought that voldemort calling pettigrew wormtail was to constantly remind him of his betrayal to his closest friends and keep him in tow bc otherwise he might think of leaving voldemort but this would keep his betrayal fresh in his mind and keep him loyal
But how does reminding him of his betrayal, keep him loyal?? If anything it's the exact opposite. All the time wormtail spent with voldy and him calling him that was the main reason wormtail had that split second of hesitation that caused the silver hand to turn on him.
@@antonypost19 he betrayed his friends, therefore can't go back to them. Staying with Voldemort is the only option left for him. It's basically the sunken-cost-fallacy
I always just thought it was because it's kind of a demeaning name and emphasises his lowliness as a servant. Peter or Pettigrew almost sounds too respectful. I get that the Marauders didn't originally intend Wormtail to be a demeaning name, but Voldemort is basically just calling him a rat. And snakes eat rats.
@alexandercharizard3617 i dont think you understood my question lol. I'm asking HOW calling him wormtail kept him loyal. If anything it did the opposite. In "The Deathly Hallows" while Peter is choking harry and he says "you owe me wormtail" is when the hand backs off harry and instead ends Peter. Voldy calling him wormtail was probably pushing him away more and more everyday, right up until the time harry says it.
Yeah, I think Voldemort calling Peter by his childhood nickname seems really out of character. I feel like Wormtail does make for a stronger character name from a writing perspective, as it captures the essence of Petigrew's position in the story so much better than any other alternative. He was given a bland name that could make him sound like he might belong with the rest of the marauders in book 3, but his nickname just sounds so much more evil-henchman-esque. All this to say, I think the use of the name Wormtail is for literary, not in-universe, reasons. Voldemort could have been using it mockingly, or derisively, or through some cunning plan to manipulate Peter, but it doesn't come across that way. I'd love if, in the new series, he was just Peter to everyone but the marauders.
I know that the first books are way shorter but it feels odd that it's already book 4. I'm glad that this podcast is going to take a long time to complete but simultaneously I wish that I could listen to all of the not yet made episodes already
@@ShirleyLestrade it was a charity thing. The actual event is over, but he racked up a ton of days of "mustache" so this'll keep going for a while lol.
I work for the post office as a letter carrier, and I live on my route. When I saw the package for myself, I was so excited. I took my lunch break at my house just to have a cup of hot chocolate from my mug. That thing is fantastic.
James and Lily being so young is important to the story, because Harry follows in their footsteps by joining the fight as soon as he can. It also shows how during wartime life moves quicker. People do things at younger ages, make huge life decisions sooner than they normally would, and such. I had an uncle and a cousin who married their high school sweethearts before shipping out to war, WWII and Vietnam. They had kids really quick after their returns. I was born in the 70’s, our classrooms went from, nearly empty to very full from the after war baby booms. But those same classrooms had fewer kids than the years before the war, because so many men died. In my own family there is this huge gap in births during both of those wars, followed by a boom.
For your information British state schools have 6 week summer holidays, so 8 weeks is abnormally long for us. Compared to American schools we have more holidays but they're shorter. So we have 1 week off in October, 2 at Christmas, 1 in February, 2 in April, 1 in May/June and then 6 in the summer.
59:30 i agree with J that its criminal Lupin gets put to the wayside just to build up his relationship with Sirius. I think it was needed to really build Sirius up to increase the stakes of book 5 and make his death hit so much harder. The whole reason Harry receives the vision of Sirius in particular is because Kreacher tells the Malfoys and Bella that Sirius is the person Harry cares most about. If Harry had spent all of Book 4 mailing back and forth with Lupin, and spent the summer before year 5 with Lupin and Sirius both, and THEN talked to both about the memory of his dad, it takes away some of special bond exclusive to Harry and Sirius. I dont like it, I wish Harry had utilized both Remus and Siruis better, but from a narrative standpoint, I completely understand why Lupin has to take a backseat
Totally agree, but also reading them as a kid it made sense because Remus was his teacher! So it felt weird to be friends/family with him, where as Sirius is clearly only around to care about Harry. Obviously as an adult that's ridiculous he was James' friend the same way.. but at the time it made sense he wouldn't speak to a teacher outside of school 😂😅
27:25 for those who want a timestamp to that. And yup, absolutely true: Sorting ceremony, Harry looks past Quirrell's turban at Snape, scar hurts for the first time
1:13:34 Harry probably just doesn't feel too close to dumbledore, or close enough to feel it appropriate to reach out to him. He probably feels close enough to Sirius because Sirius has demonstrated want to be in Harry's life. In terms of engraciating themselves to Harry dumbledore has quantity of interactions but Sirius blows him out of the water in quality
Exaclty and as for Remus, Sirius Reach out to Harry while Remus didn't. No card from him on birthdays or other occastions, so Harry thought of him only as a teacher.
Something interesting to me, whenever they bring up Harry not talking to adults, is that was very much the culture when I was growing up. The first book was published when I was a senior in high school, I'm seven months older than Harry. And, just, me and my friends lived by the unspoken rule that "adults will always make it worse." I had a friend who was bullied terribly - her hair singed with a lighter in the locker room, punched in the mouth out of nowhere leaving the gym - and it legitimately never occurred to either of us that an adult should be told. So, this just felt really accurate and natural to me on reading these books. Can anyone around my age (44) confirm if this is what things were like for you? Or was this just our very dysfunctional town/school system.
I am actually 10 years older than you, and can confirm this was the norm at the time. I went to a horrible school for a year and when girls told adults of the way boys acted, the principal had the nerve to say “it’s because they like you. You should be flattered.” Today they would have been brought up on charges of sexual assault. So we learned and kinda passed it on to those younger I fear, that adults are not going to help. Plus there was a lot of adults who felt, “it will make you stronger” or it is a sign of weakness to need help.
@MythStarFire Thanks, yes, that was exactly it. There was a sense with adults that they all felt they'd had it tougher than you, so it really did feel embarrassing to say anything, because they looked down on you for not being able to handle it. I'm not sure when the cultural shift happened - and I don't think it's happened everywhere - where adults actually became more helpful and an actual resource for kids in trouble. It has actually been surprising to me, watching the series, how frequently they point out that things could've been solved if the kids had gone to a teacher, because when I've read through it, it has always seemed completely natural to me that they wouldn't. Which is honestly pretty sad. I do think it's a shift. I've worked with a lot of kids and teens over the last decade and, in general, if there's a problem with bullying or anything else, working with the school has been *helpful.* Which actually shocked me to pieces the first couple of times it happened. For all the flak Gen X gets, I love that it's the generation who grew up like, "Maybe let's make life less miserable for kids than it was for us."
When you're a kid you can feel like your life is completely under the control of adults and you have no freedom. Schools can be kid prisons and the adults are the guards. Even if you like an adult they are still on a sort of "other side". Or at least that's how I felt.
59:00 I have been saying this for years: Harry should have written to Lupin. It has been bugging me since I first read this at age 10. Harry barely knows Sirius at this point, and he has spent the majority of last year hating him. Though he learns the truth, lingering feelings are likely to last. Lupin, on the other hand, acted like a father to him, was his mentor and confidant, and never treated him like he was stupid. Even when Harry visits him at the end after he is sacked, they have a heart to heart, and this happens after Sirius's heart to heart which would reinforce their relationship. It is like Harry's feelings toward Lupin and Sirius switched. Heck, after book 3, Lupin doesn't send him gifts like Sirius and Hagrid do, he isn't there for him, he doesn't assume a familial connection. (And why doesn't he write to Hagrid?) This bugs me to no end. Huge oversight. And as far as the offer for Harry to live with Sirius, that is not a Chekhov's Gun, it is a Reversal. It is used to illustrate tragedy. For one glorious hour, Harry thought he would no longer have to live with the Dursleys, but that was snatched away just like a Dementor had sucked out his happiness. Not to mention that it is an extra sting after Sirius's death when Harry inherits the house. It is salt in the wound, deepening the tragedy of what could have been. Harry can't have happiness like that until after Voldemort is dead.
Harry does write to Hagrid. Hagrid sends him a bag of rock cakes after hearing about the diet (which Harry doesn't touch) and a superb birthday cake. Also, Remus probably doesn'thave the money to send Harry presents, other than the joint Christmas gift with Sirius in book 5. (I suspect that Sirius provided the money for the Defense books and Remus bought them.)
Speaking of the Diadem I recently heard the theory that it’s what’s keeping the curse on the DADA position active. And honestly it’s my new headcanon now.
Summer was always my favorite time of the year when I was in school, followed by any time school was closed for a holiday. I always got the impression that Voldemort called Peter "Wormtail" to humiliate him, just like Snape does in HBP.
Barons are nobility, not royalty. Also, feudalism wasn't introduced to the British Isles until after the Norman conquest, so it's unlikely he was an actual Baron.
The Play-station in 1994 seems to be about as much of an mistake as the bit in the Aunt Marge chapter where Ripper attacks Harry cause he 'allegedly' stepped on the bull-dogs tail. Reality Alert: Bulldogs only have tiny rumps for tails so how did Harry even manage to do it? It should've been his foot! (I think Dudley should've been playing Doom or Mortal Kombat off his Super Nintendo, if we were going to be more Period Accurate.)
The question is why Abelforth doubted the fact that Albus was feeling really bad about Ariana despite the fact he saw his brother never fixing his nose in more than 80 years?
Oh man, I LOVE your Ravenclaw = heavy loss discussion at the end and it reminded me of Andromeda Tonks- and a wild theory I would love to see you cover! The Ravenclaws relationship to the Blacks is one of my favorite theories you’ve done, but what about the theory that House Black is CURSED-and that Narcissa isn’t actually a Black?! The theory goes that the Blacks all have dark hair and constellation names, and they all die early or else lose all their loved ones. Bellatrix and Sirius spend time in jail and then die young. Andromeda gets disowned and tortured by Death Eaters and then loses her daughter and husband. Regulus dies horribly in the cave very young. But Narcissa, with her conspicuously fair hair and her flower name, survives the series and even manages to keep her Death Eater loved ones out of Azkaban. So the theory is that Narcissa has a different father than her older sisters, and that’s why she’s the only one in the entire family to get a happy ending. I don’t necessarily believe it, but it’s a fun theory! I’m sure you two could find even more evidence for it.
It's not like Voldemort is sitting there with a 3rd party perspective, but isn't it possible Voldemort could hear his thoughts the whole time. He acts a little surprised when Nagini exposes Frank, but also really cool and collected like he isn't that surprised. I think he just hadn't cared that Frank was there... maybe that's how Harry got the 3rd party perspective. I mean I feel like this even explains a bit about why Harry is such a bad occlamist and legillaments, maybe it has to do with stopping your internal monologuing enough to hear others and again Harry can only do that when he's asleep. Where Voldemort is so calm and collected when not viciously slaughtering people in fits of rage that he can easily have a whole conversation while locking his feelings/thoughts away while also being able to perceive the thoughts in the room.
Something I hope they change in the TV series is who knows about Snitches having flesh memories and have it ACTUALLY be Harry as opposed to Hermione as Harry being so into Quidditch it makes more sense that Harry knowing about that fact rather than Hermione
Here in the UK our Summer Holidays are actually usually 6 weeks, but we also have more short holidays (half terms) throughout the year in between the longer ones
I get the frustration of why he doesn't think of Lupin but even though Lupin meets all the "qualifications ", kids see a parent as a blood relative and even though Serius isn't blood related his title of God-parent is enough...this is why many kids love their parents over other better adults even if their parents suck.
Wondering if with Dumbledore's big plan didn't he have Hagred give Hedwig to Harry to keep an eye on him. Dumbledore might have made him a familiar. hedwig also dies soon after Dumbledore bites it. Releasing the protection that she had under Dumbledore. Just a crazy thought.
I think Harry’s scar burns because the reason it’s even there is Lily’s protection made Voldemort’s spell backfire. The scar almost symbolizes her protection against Voldemort (Prime), therefore his scar burns as a warning to Harry about the presence of Voldemort. I’m a huge fan! Not only to TTGD but also SCB. I look forward to Sunday’s episode every week. I’ve read all the books countless times and have spent literal months of listen time on the audio books. Being able to dissect each chapter has been so much fun and I cannot WAIT for my favorite book in the series HBP. Love you guys!!
I loved that the Order of the Phoenix movie seemed to acknowledge the father figure role Remus played in Harry’s life for a moment when Harry got to Sirius’s house. The kitchen door clears and you see Sirius, Arthur, and Remus. One of my favorite moments.
Well the thing is sacrificial protection can protect from many curses like what we see happen in the battle of hogwarts after Harry has sacrificed himself for everyone at Hogwarts. So while there could be other accounts of sacrificial protection, Harry still may be the only one that has survived the killing curse because of it.
During one of my previous rereads, I also stumbled over the POV for Frank. I had come to the conclusion that Harry had been seeing through Voldemorte's mind like normal, for starting just the moment before he got the "pleasure" of killing someone. It just so happens that that moment consisted of him rifling through Frank's mind with legilimency for information and thus "experiencing" Frank's waking up and walking to the castle. Since what would be a mundane evening for Voldemorte, being pestered by Wormtail wouldn't really make his emotions high enough to pull Harry's mind in, but the chance to lord over someone and hold their life in his hands mixed with the indignation of being spied on by a muggle would. Love the channel! Keeps me awake on the way to work :)
18:00 I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE SLOW MOTION DREAM THING!!!!! I have that all the freaking time and you explained it perfectly. Im always having dreams where I either just can’t run for some reason or where i simply can’t stand up altogether. Like ill be struggling to stand up but my legs are just so weak that i can’t do it. I freaking hate that, i thought it was just me though.
1:21:29 Do you think the contemporary royalty is aware of wizards? we know the prime minister is. but now im wondering what do all the government and royal family think and do about the wizards if they know
I agree that Lupin should have been written to, and I'd like to propose that the loose floorboard is a result of unintended magic. Harry needed a place to hide things, and came across this because he needed it. Much like his hair growing back or him getting onto the roof.
Harry lay flat on his back, breathing hard as though he had been running (faster than Hermione). I like that when Harry runs his injuries through his head, he doesn't mention that his arm has been pierced by a foot long fang because he was saving someone, or that he had stopped Voldy many times, hinting at his INSANE humility.
Hey Brothers! The playlist for Prisoner is backwards and it’s driving me crazy. And also aren’t there a couple chapters missing from it? Love the show, and even more so when I can binge it.
Who would've guess, a nerd is flapping about Harry not sending a letter to a nerd. Sirius is so much better choice. Maybe Harry didn't spend enough time with Sirius, but he suits Harry's persona way more. Harry didn't want a cautious professor type that will worry needlessly, he wanted a rebelious in your face kind of guy that will take this siriously (pun intended) but won't overreact. Also the fact that Harry's parents appointed Sirius to be Harry's LEGAL guardian is probably a good argument for Sirius too.
Why? Fleamont spent his Hogwarts years frequently getting into duels over people making fun of his name. So he could very well want his son to have a nice normal name so as to avoid what happened to him.
the school holidays are different in the UK. summer holidays are always 6 weeks long.. then there is 2 weeks for christmas, 2 weeks for easter and 1 week in the spring, 1 week in the summer
I would chalk up Harry seeing the scene from Frank's point of view to the author not having come up with the whole horcrux structure etc yet but in this scene we could explain it by saying that Voldemort was essentially invading Frank's mind so forcefully that he watched it unfold through Frank's eyes himself and therefore so did Harry.
I've always interpreted the perspective in chapter 1 as Voldemort reading Frank's mind before killing him. I figured that explained why Harry saw things from Franks perspective.
Literally assumed it was a flamingo. No matter what it was, using a tropical bird is like sending a return address anyone can read, if they know where said bird came from.
@53:40 in the first book Harry describes it as being broken at least twice. I've always assumed somebody mended it quickly and later on Dumbledore re-broke his nose too physically remind himself that he is not perfect.
Notes--Always good descriptions of how it is to be nearsighted. Harry's dream--precursor to OaP. Memories = water--vivid description, as is Harry being as welcome to the Durselys as dry rot. Not able to confide in the Durselys--lonely. Hidden wizarding world--Statute of Secrecy. Harry knows Hermione and Ron very well as per their reactions. The background info is well-integrated into the chapter plotline. The Durselys reaction to Sirius--Harry knows them very well too. In his letter to Sirius, Harry mentioning Dudley's reaction to his new eating style shows how when you do have someone to confide in, even little things unconnected to the main subject are something to share.
I don't know why James and Lily being 21 is a problem... People especially elderly parents like James' can go from totally healthy to dying in a few months. Plus the marauders being young is the point its tragic and it mirrors Harry Ron and Hermione, they're child soldiers in a resistance it's really sad, and when Harry goes to face Voldemort in the forest he is SO close in age to James they must look almost identical 😢
I mean - at what age did they their parents have them as children? Because they could have them at the age of 60 and it would still be reasonable for them to be alive. Both Lily and James's parents passed away when their children were only 20, that is of course not impossible, but highly unlikely and comes across more as not realizing the age implications
@RancorSnp Fleamont and Euphemia had James late in life (in fact, they had given up on being able to have children at all by that time). They died of dragon pox, and apparently wizards are more prone to dying of it if they contract the disease when they're elderly.
How come Tom was so upset that dumbledore didn't give him the DADA position? He showed up to the interview with his face looking like it had features "blurred or burned off." Even if dumbledore didn't suspect Tom, no way he or dippet, OR any headmaster, hire someone who obviously did dark magic to the point he's unrecognizable. If he actually wanted the job, wouldn't he have put a glamour on. So was the curse for not getting the job or punishment because he felt embarrassed that dumbledore knew so much once again.
We've had 3 years of the Dursley's failing Harry's birthday. This seems like that the text has assumed that you now feel Harry's macro scale indifference. The best he will receive is diluted by time and distance (space).
The current royal name of Windsor dates back to 1917 during the First World War, the name changed from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor due to anti-German sentiment and George V worrying about a possible revolution in the UK. Also we have a castle here in England called Windsor where George V hung around in a lot apparently.
@Ryan_Giggs97 yes was going to put that but couldn't at the time. But the point remains the same. They didn't change their name to accommodate their respective husbands
My headcanon for why Harry can see the scene with Frank and Voldemort from a different POV is because of Voldemist and what happened to it after Voldemort is in Baby Voldemort. I mean, Baby Voldemort has to be an artificial body and that Peter had a hand in making it. I mean, if Voldemort knew he'd need constant feeding then there'd be no reason for Voldemort to make the body unless he had a servant. So I think he instructed Peter on how to make the baby body. This explains Voldemort complaining about Peter's clumsy care and implies that Peter could have made a stronger or at least less dependent body for him if he was a better wizard. So when Voldemort moved to inhabit the Baby Voldemort body, I think he left behind an invisible remnant of Voldemist that surrounds Baby Voldemort's immediate area that he's not in control of because his consciousness is in Baby Voldemort. Because of that, I've always believed that specifically during this one scene Harry Potter is looking at the scene through the lens of the invisible remnants of Voldemist. I mean, it's not like it really matters. We never see Voldemist again and this is an answer that doesn't break canon if we assume that Voldemort's adult body absorbs the remnants of Voldemist when he's in the cauldron. TLDR: Harry can see the scene from a different perspective because he sees the scene through Voldemist. When Voldemort properly resurrects, he unintentionally reabsorbs Voldemist so Harry can't see from that POV anymore.
Great theory! My headcanon was similar to this, that Harry and Voldemort’s connection isn’t as strong as it is in Book 5 and on because Voldemort’s rudimentary body wasn’t ‘his’ it was just a vessel his spirit form was inhabiting. Kind of like how Harry didn’t get any visions from when Voldemort was inhabiting Quirrell. But because of Wormtail’s care and the feedings from Nagini through the body Voldemort is strong enough for the horcrux connection mind-link to kick in
Its funny, this was actually the first Harry Potter book I ever read as a kid, so it was interesting getting a little recap at the start and just filling in the blanks in the story myself
@ and not once in the scene does it say anything along the lines of showing us a perspective change. If he had been seeing things through naginis eyes, he wouldn’t be able to recall her later in the book, which he does, but also he would’ve had a similar reaction to what happens in order of the pheonix, or at the very least, when It happened AGAIN in order of the phoenix, he wouldn’t have been as caught off-guard or surprised about “being the snake” in order of the pheonix, as that’s not the first time. Also the only reason Harry ever sees through the eyes of the snake in the first place is because he’s actually seeing through Voldemort, who is possessing nagini at the time.
Love this show. Can't wait for the Orlando show!!! I get to read the chapter, listen to Fry, Dale and Carlin. The best voices of the wizarding world. Speaking of lineage, if the raven claws were a noble family, pure blooded as it were, I'm curious of the descendents. There must of been more then the sacred 28. For that matter, what happened to the rest of the founders. Surely they have not completely died out. All questions for the founders series.
I really wish we could have found out more in the neighbors talked about the dursleys being absolutely horrible people Petunia probably would have known that ASAP. And I would hope that she would have done something to correct that but I doubt that.
Interesting thought when you guys were talking about the owls finding people and the connection between names and the people that own them. I wonder if that network or magic is what the maurader's tapped into when making the map of Hogwarts. It would explain how the map knows which dot is what person.
You guys missed one and indeed the FIRST moment when Harry's scar hurts, which was one of the misdirection tactics in the first book. It in the great feast at the start of the year and happened when Quirrell was facing away and Snape was facing at Harry. Which made Harry think it was because of Snape staring whilst it was because Quirrell facing away (Voldemort staring at him).
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Hilarious ad break happened: they were talking about Harry seeing events happen from Voldemort's POV or not (around 16 mins in) and Ben said "Harry would pop into his mind and Voldemort would be like..." but an ad started playing and finished his thought as "Hey man, do you like Dr. Pepper?"
For me it was "Maybe it's Maybelline" 😂
The thought of that happening. Voldamort just pops up, "Potter, fancy a drink? Its American."
I can't even remember what I got, but it made me laugh so hard😂
I just got an add for laundry soap.
I just got a skyrizy commercial.
1:13:05 Harry wasn't calling PlayStation stupid. He was calling Dudley throwing it out the window stupid. 😂
Harry doesn't seem like the type to actually think Play Station is stupid. He probably even would have enjoyed playing some games if Dudley would have let him. But Dudley throwing a fit and throwing his Play Station out the window is verry stupid!
@pixywings I agree.
Sometimes there are videos how parents destroy phones or TVs of their children. My neighbour even once told me a story that he destroyed his sons PS5. That is so dumb. They bought it, it's their own money they just throw out of the window.
I think Harry was calling the result of Dudley’s tantrum stupid rather than the PlayStation.
“Dudley chucked the PlayStation out of the window.” Then Harry explains what a PlayStation is and goes on “Bit stupid really because now he doesn’t have games to play”
Or I guess more calling Dudley stupid for now having a broken PlayStation
Which I think a lot of people have broken something in a moment of anger and then had that realization of “how could I have been so stupid to do that?” after calming down
Agreed
I broke my own SNES because my dad wouldn't let me have it in my room and also wouldn't let me play it on HIS! TV, but he played it all the time so I just smashed it.
1:12:50 I find it funny that Harry explains it as _"a sort of computer thing you can play games on,"_ not just because it reminds me of the Daily Prophet calling a gun _"a kind of metal wand that Muggles use to kill each other,"_ but also because there's no way Sirius would understand what a computer is in the first place.
Sirius could have taken Muggle Studies to annoy his parents and learned about computers at some point. After all, he also was into motorcycles and had pictures if Muggle pin-up girls in his room to annoy his parents.
@MulanBelle True, but counterpoint: Arthur Weasley definitely would've taken that class, and he doesn't understand electricity.
@@PerovNigma Arthur has a basic idea about Muggle things, but he's clueless when it comes to the finer details. It's like how he knows that Muggle post requires the use of stamps, but he's unable to tell Molly how many stamps are needed for the letter she sends to the Dursleys.
@@MulanBellewould have been muggle studies in the 70’s at a wizard school, doubt computers would come up
@@Lockfire1 Unless the Muggle Studies professor was a huge nerd! They might have wangled one just for learning about the new thing and couldn't stop talking about it to their confused and bored students. ;)
Now I want a “what if Harry reached out to Lupin instead of Sirius” video
Whose to say Sirius doesn't reach out to Remus, we know he tells Dumbledore
@@almudd Well, yes, but-I DO think that there's a chance that Remus would *NOT* have contacted Sirius, not only because he didn't know how far his Patronus would have to go, but *also* because the poor man would undoubtedly be under some sort of surveillance himself, sleeping rough as he was, after losing the cushy Hogwarts job... :(
no kidding
I don't know if there is anything out there with this exact idea but there IS fanfic of 'what if Sirius didn't escape Azkaban' which makes Harry's third year completly normal so Remus just gets to tell Harry more cause there is no 'don't tell Harry that the mass murderer who just escaped was his parents' best friend and betrayed them and is the reason they're dead.' I just finished one called 'The Chronolgy of a Wolf' on AO3.
Headcannon: Dumbledore and Sirius are chilling together on the beach down south during the summer.
Both with zinc oxide-adorned noses!
I think you guys are forgetting what it was like at 14. I totally understand Harry not wanting to tell Dumbledore, the Wesleys and Remus.
The previous 3 years he was treated like a child every time there was trouble, which cost him trips to Hogsmeade and other fun. Had Harry reported the dream, Dumbledore may have kept him at the Dursleys since his protection is greater there.
I agree with you that he should’ve told Remus or Albus, but I totally get why 14-year old Harry didn’t.
Actually it perfectly reasonable for Harry not to contact Remus and Dumbledore. Sirius Reach out to Harry while Remus/Dumbledore didn't. No card, letter from then on birthdays or other occastions, so Harry thought of them only as a teachers.
Yeah they forget how old Harry and the students are a lot. Hindsight is 20/20
@@Weronika-df6oz it's funny how remus never wrote to him, now that i think about it
Listening to this podcast for an hour and a half before NFL kickoff just makes Sundays elite
With harry seeing through Frank's eyes, does make sense if you remember. Voldemort read Franks mind.
The memory started in his hut so Voldemort would see he had no wife and lived alone and would make sense it would cut off at his death.
Just my theory but that does make the most sense.
Would he still be reading his mind up until the point he died though enough to see himself
@lahlybird895 maybe that's why Harry's scar burned. Voldemort took one look at himself and went my god where is my nose!
@Madenoak lol!
@@lahlybird895 Probably yes, he might have read the memories to see that no one knows he came here and then from there fast forwarded to the present and kept staying in his head to detect any lies he spoke.
i always thought that voldemort calling pettigrew wormtail was to constantly remind him of his betrayal to his closest friends and keep him in tow bc otherwise he might think of leaving voldemort but this would keep his betrayal fresh in his mind and keep him loyal
But how does reminding him of his betrayal, keep him loyal?? If anything it's the exact opposite. All the time wormtail spent with voldy and him calling him that was the main reason wormtail had that split second of hesitation that caused the silver hand to turn on him.
@@antonypost19 he betrayed his friends, therefore can't go back to them. Staying with Voldemort is the only option left for him. It's basically the sunken-cost-fallacy
I always just thought it was because it's kind of a demeaning name and emphasises his lowliness as a servant. Peter or Pettigrew almost sounds too respectful.
I get that the Marauders didn't originally intend Wormtail to be a demeaning name, but Voldemort is basically just calling him a rat. And snakes eat rats.
@alexandercharizard3617 i dont think you understood my question lol. I'm asking HOW calling him wormtail kept him loyal. If anything it did the opposite. In "The Deathly Hallows" while Peter is choking harry and he says "you owe me wormtail" is when the hand backs off harry and instead ends Peter. Voldy calling him wormtail was probably pushing him away more and more everyday, right up until the time harry says it.
Yeah, I think Voldemort calling Peter by his childhood nickname seems really out of character. I feel like Wormtail does make for a stronger character name from a writing perspective, as it captures the essence of Petigrew's position in the story so much better than any other alternative. He was given a bland name that could make him sound like he might belong with the rest of the marauders in book 3, but his nickname just sounds so much more evil-henchman-esque.
All this to say, I think the use of the name Wormtail is for literary, not in-universe, reasons. Voldemort could have been using it mockingly, or derisively, or through some cunning plan to manipulate Peter, but it doesn't come across that way. I'd love if, in the new series, he was just Peter to everyone but the marauders.
I know that the first books are way shorter but it feels odd that it's already book 4. I'm glad that this podcast is going to take a long time to complete but simultaneously I wish that I could listen to all of the not yet made episodes already
Well, Goblet alone will probably take to June or July of next year if I mathed correctly. Admittedly my math budget is pretty much non existant.
@@kable_t.v.I think someone else actually said August
@@RedHeart-gt9xr If they don't take any breaks, it will be August.
The series has 199 chapters in total, this chapter is number 59.
is it just me, or is J looking like Tarzan's dad with that mustache? Beware of leopards if you and your wife are planning any trips to the jungle lol
Yeah I’m still not used to it, like did he just decide to grow a mustache one day? 😂
They had a bet (on patreon I believe) where the fans determine how long his moustache grows @@ShirleyLestrade
😂
@@ShirleyLestrade it was a charity thing. The actual event is over, but he racked up a ton of days of "mustache" so this'll keep going for a while lol.
@@calemroberts2941oh ok 😂
Harry and Remus drank Butterbeers together! That's a very dad/son activity from what I've heard.
I work for the post office as a letter carrier, and I live on my route. When I saw the package for myself, I was so excited. I took my lunch break at my house just to have a cup of hot chocolate from my mug. That thing is fantastic.
James and Lily being so young is important to the story, because Harry follows in their footsteps by joining the fight as soon as he can. It also shows how during wartime life moves quicker. People do things at younger ages, make huge life decisions sooner than they normally would, and such. I had an uncle and a cousin who married their high school sweethearts before shipping out to war, WWII and Vietnam. They had kids really quick after their returns. I was born in the 70’s, our classrooms went from, nearly empty to very full from the after war baby booms. But those same classrooms had fewer kids than the years before the war, because so many men died. In my own family there is this huge gap in births during both of those wars, followed by a boom.
For your information British state schools have 6 week summer holidays, so 8 weeks is abnormally long for us. Compared to American schools we have more holidays but they're shorter. So we have 1 week off in October, 2 at Christmas, 1 in February, 2 in April, 1 in May/June and then 6 in the summer.
British public schools (meaning private ones) usually have an 8 week Summer holiday and Hogwarts is a private boarding school
I always imagine the Dumbledore on a beach somewhere looking like the wizard in The Sword in the Stone animated movie when he goes to Bermuda.
Merlin, and his glorious beard
Same 😁
@@NerdyBernie66 I’m glad that so many other random people apparently had the exact same thought as me when reading this book
I’m also pretty sure the “secure center for incurably criminal boys” would not send them home for the summer
It sounds like juvie.
59:30 i agree with J that its criminal Lupin gets put to the wayside just to build up his relationship with Sirius. I think it was needed to really build Sirius up to increase the stakes of book 5 and make his death hit so much harder.
The whole reason Harry receives the vision of Sirius in particular is because Kreacher tells the Malfoys and Bella that Sirius is the person Harry cares most about. If Harry had spent all of Book 4 mailing back and forth with Lupin, and spent the summer before year 5 with Lupin and Sirius both, and THEN talked to both about the memory of his dad, it takes away some of special bond exclusive to Harry and Sirius.
I dont like it, I wish Harry had utilized both Remus and Siruis better, but from a narrative standpoint, I completely understand why Lupin has to take a backseat
Totally agree, but also reading them as a kid it made sense because Remus was his teacher! So it felt weird to be friends/family with him, where as Sirius is clearly only around to care about Harry. Obviously as an adult that's ridiculous he was James' friend the same way.. but at the time it made sense he wouldn't speak to a teacher outside of school 😂😅
Sirius Reach out to Harry while Remus didn't. No card from him on birthday, so Harry thought of him only as a teacher.
I would love nothing more than a Founders Series written by J and Ben. Keep up the good content. 🧙♂️
The first time the scar was activated was in the Great Hall when he was in the sorting ceremony.
27:25 for those who want a timestamp to that.
And yup, absolutely true: Sorting ceremony, Harry looks past Quirrell's turban at Snape, scar hurts for the first time
1:13:34 Harry probably just doesn't feel too close to dumbledore, or close enough to feel it appropriate to reach out to him.
He probably feels close enough to Sirius because Sirius has demonstrated want to be in Harry's life.
In terms of engraciating themselves to Harry dumbledore has quantity of interactions but Sirius blows him out of the water in quality
Exaclty and as for Remus, Sirius Reach out to Harry while Remus didn't. No card from him on birthdays or other occastions, so Harry thought of him only as a teacher.
It’s thanksgiving week in America and I am thankful for this podcast to give me something to look forward to every week!!
Seriously...if you guys don't write the founders series...it is truly a missed opportunity. So much passion in your voices at the end of this podcast.
Something interesting to me, whenever they bring up Harry not talking to adults, is that was very much the culture when I was growing up. The first book was published when I was a senior in high school, I'm seven months older than Harry. And, just, me and my friends lived by the unspoken rule that "adults will always make it worse." I had a friend who was bullied terribly - her hair singed with a lighter in the locker room, punched in the mouth out of nowhere leaving the gym - and it legitimately never occurred to either of us that an adult should be told. So, this just felt really accurate and natural to me on reading these books. Can anyone around my age (44) confirm if this is what things were like for you? Or was this just our very dysfunctional town/school system.
I am actually 10 years older than you, and can confirm this was the norm at the time. I went to a horrible school for a year and when girls told adults of the way boys acted, the principal had the nerve to say “it’s because they like you. You should be flattered.” Today they would have been brought up on charges of sexual assault. So we learned and kinda passed it on to those younger I fear, that adults are not going to help. Plus there was a lot of adults who felt, “it will make you stronger” or it is a sign of weakness to need help.
@MythStarFire Thanks, yes, that was exactly it. There was a sense with adults that they all felt they'd had it tougher than you, so it really did feel embarrassing to say anything, because they looked down on you for not being able to handle it. I'm not sure when the cultural shift happened - and I don't think it's happened everywhere - where adults actually became more helpful and an actual resource for kids in trouble. It has actually been surprising to me, watching the series, how frequently they point out that things could've been solved if the kids had gone to a teacher, because when I've read through it, it has always seemed completely natural to me that they wouldn't. Which is honestly pretty sad.
I do think it's a shift. I've worked with a lot of kids and teens over the last decade and, in general, if there's a problem with bullying or anything else, working with the school has been *helpful.* Which actually shocked me to pieces the first couple of times it happened.
For all the flak Gen X gets, I love that it's the generation who grew up like, "Maybe let's make life less miserable for kids than it was for us."
When you're a kid you can feel like your life is completely under the control of adults and you have no freedom. Schools can be kid prisons and the adults are the guards. Even if you like an adult they are still on a sort of "other side". Or at least that's how I felt.
Plus the adults Harry grew up around would literally always make it worse, his tendency to never depend on adults makes total sense to me
I was born in '81 and this concept rings true for me as well.
59:00 I have been saying this for years: Harry should have written to Lupin.
It has been bugging me since I first read this at age 10. Harry barely knows Sirius at this point, and he has spent the majority of last year hating him.
Though he learns the truth, lingering feelings are likely to last. Lupin, on the other hand, acted like a father to him, was his mentor and confidant, and never treated him like he was stupid. Even when Harry visits him at the end after he is sacked, they have a heart to heart, and this happens after Sirius's heart to heart which would reinforce their relationship.
It is like Harry's feelings toward Lupin and Sirius switched. Heck, after book 3, Lupin doesn't send him gifts like Sirius and Hagrid do, he isn't there for him, he doesn't assume a familial connection.
(And why doesn't he write to Hagrid?)
This bugs me to no end. Huge oversight.
And as far as the offer for Harry to live with Sirius, that is not a Chekhov's Gun, it is a Reversal. It is used to illustrate tragedy.
For one glorious hour, Harry thought he would no longer have to live with the Dursleys, but that was snatched away just like a Dementor had sucked out his happiness.
Not to mention that it is an extra sting after Sirius's death when Harry inherits the house. It is salt in the wound, deepening the tragedy of what could have been.
Harry can't have happiness like that until after Voldemort is dead.
Harry does write to Hagrid. Hagrid sends him a bag of rock cakes after hearing about the diet (which Harry doesn't touch) and a superb birthday cake.
Also, Remus probably doesn'thave the money to send Harry presents, other than the joint Christmas gift with Sirius in book 5. (I suspect that Sirius provided the money for the Defense books and Remus bought them.)
No im pretty sure Order of the Phoenix has a recap chapter too
Also me with dreams: hey that was a really cool dream
My brain: we had a dream?
Speaking of the Diadem I recently heard the theory that it’s what’s keeping the curse on the DADA position active. And honestly it’s my new headcanon now.
Meh I think voldemort probably put a curse on the castle, or the Dada office more than a diadem in an widely unknown room inside the castle.
ooo i like that
Summer was always my favorite time of the year when I was in school, followed by any time school was closed for a holiday. I always got the impression that Voldemort called Peter "Wormtail" to humiliate him, just like Snape does in HBP.
Memories viewed in the Pensieve are somehow viewed from a 3rd person perspective, so I imagine Harry can view in-progress memories in the same way.
52:51 I picture a scene from Sword in the Stone - where Merlin says, "Blow me to Bermuda!"
I’m so happy this podcast exists and is so long! Thanks guys! A true delight!
Barons are nobility, not royalty. Also, feudalism wasn't introduced to the British Isles until after the Norman conquest, so it's unlikely he was an actual Baron.
I might have to start re-listening from the start for the 4th time soon not enough episodes
The Play-station in 1994 seems to be about as much of an mistake as the bit in the Aunt Marge chapter where Ripper attacks Harry cause he
'allegedly' stepped on the bull-dogs tail. Reality Alert: Bulldogs only have tiny rumps for tails so how did Harry even manage to do it? It should've been his foot!
(I think Dudley should've been playing Doom or Mortal Kombat off his Super Nintendo, if we were going to be more Period Accurate.)
Lily’s parents died normal muggle deaths?! How old were they when they had Lily? 50?
It was a great time seeing you guys in LA, even with a lackluster chapter. Fantastic show!
I believe the reason for the owls, is Merlin having Archimedes the owl pet that could speak
The question is why Abelforth doubted the fact that Albus was feeling really bad about Ariana despite the fact he saw his brother never fixing his nose in more than 80 years?
Lupin was nothing but helpful, informative, and knowledgable about the Dark Arts. Why didn't Harry ask Lupin?
Oh man, I LOVE your Ravenclaw = heavy loss discussion at the end and it reminded me of Andromeda Tonks- and a wild theory I would love to see you cover! The Ravenclaws relationship to the Blacks is one of my favorite theories you’ve done, but what about the theory that House Black is CURSED-and that Narcissa isn’t actually a Black?! The theory goes that the Blacks all have dark hair and constellation names, and they all die early or else lose all their loved ones. Bellatrix and Sirius spend time in jail and then die young. Andromeda gets disowned and tortured by Death Eaters and then loses her daughter and husband. Regulus dies horribly in the cave very young. But Narcissa, with her conspicuously fair hair and her flower name, survives the series and even manages to keep her Death Eater loved ones out of Azkaban. So the theory is that Narcissa has a different father than her older sisters, and that’s why she’s the only one in the entire family to get a happy ending. I don’t necessarily believe it, but it’s a fun theory! I’m sure you two could find even more evidence for it.
It's not like Voldemort is sitting there with a 3rd party perspective, but isn't it possible Voldemort could hear his thoughts the whole time. He acts a little surprised when Nagini exposes Frank, but also really cool and collected like he isn't that surprised. I think he just hadn't cared that Frank was there... maybe that's how Harry got the 3rd party perspective. I mean I feel like this even explains a bit about why Harry is such a bad occlamist and legillaments, maybe it has to do with stopping your internal monologuing enough to hear others and again Harry can only do that when he's asleep. Where Voldemort is so calm and collected when not viciously slaughtering people in fits of rage that he can easily have a whole conversation while locking his feelings/thoughts away while also being able to perceive the thoughts in the room.
I've been lying in bed with a water bottle listening to Goblet chapters 1&2 - highly recommended 😁
Lupin also ignored Harry. He made zero contact despite Harry showing up in the paper. Maybe a small note asking about his welfare?
Love this podcast so much that you guys so much for making work more enjoyable.
Something I hope they change in the TV series is who knows about Snitches having flesh memories and have it ACTUALLY be Harry as opposed to Hermione as Harry being so into Quidditch it makes more sense that Harry knowing about that fact rather than Hermione
New head cannon, during the dream in chapter 1, Harry is seeing it thru Nagini's eyes.
Except we see the snake slither by in that same dream😬😂
@@gingersnap8543 Which is why "head canons" should go no further than their foundations.
@@gingersnap8543 Also, throughout that chapter we have Frank's internal monologue, which wouldn't be possible if Harry was Nagini.
Here in the UK our Summer Holidays are actually usually 6 weeks, but we also have more short holidays (half terms) throughout the year in between the longer ones
Hogwarts is a private boarding school and British public schools (private) tend to have 8 week Summer holidays
@ That’s true. I was just commenting on their surprise at how short an 8 week holiday seemed
Sitting here sipping my tea from my Through the Griffin Door mug as I watch this week's episode. I LOVE IT!!!!
This ties into the Arthur incident. Harry's experience is Nagini's experience. Sapient horcrux to sapient horcrux. Because of LVd's focus.
I get the frustration of why he doesn't think of Lupin but even though Lupin meets all the "qualifications ", kids see a parent as a blood relative and even though Serius isn't blood related his title of God-parent is enough...this is why many kids love their parents over other better adults even if their parents suck.
Wondering if with Dumbledore's big plan didn't he have Hagred give Hedwig to Harry to keep an eye on him. Dumbledore might have made him a familiar. hedwig also dies soon after Dumbledore bites it. Releasing the protection that she had under Dumbledore. Just a crazy thought.
JUST GOT MY GRIFFIN DOOR MUG!
Drinking coffee to this RN❤
Is it super heavy? I’ve noticed that similar mugs are just unrealistically heavy for me
@@ShirleyLestrade I wouldnt say so. But it's very thick at the bottom. It's super worth it tho
shoutout to Isybelle for cutting to Jay every time he says "yeah" "uh huh" etc. fantastic work
I think Harry’s scar burns because the reason it’s even there is Lily’s protection made Voldemort’s spell backfire. The scar almost symbolizes her protection against Voldemort (Prime), therefore his scar burns as a warning to Harry about the presence of Voldemort.
I’m a huge fan! Not only to TTGD but also SCB. I look forward to Sunday’s episode every week. I’ve read all the books countless times and have spent literal months of listen time on the audio books. Being able to dissect each chapter has been so much fun and I cannot WAIT for my favorite book in the series HBP. Love you guys!!
I loved that the Order of the Phoenix movie seemed to acknowledge the father figure role Remus played in Harry’s life for a moment when Harry got to Sirius’s house. The kitchen door clears and you see Sirius, Arthur, and Remus. One of my favorite moments.
Well the thing is sacrificial protection can protect from many curses like what we see happen in the battle of hogwarts after Harry has sacrificed himself for everyone at Hogwarts. So while there could be other accounts of sacrificial protection, Harry still may be the only one that has survived the killing curse because of it.
This is the comment I went into the comments to find. 100% agreed
During one of my previous rereads, I also stumbled over the POV for Frank. I had come to the conclusion that Harry had been seeing through Voldemorte's mind like normal, for starting just the moment before he got the "pleasure" of killing someone. It just so happens that that moment consisted of him rifling through Frank's mind with legilimency for information and thus "experiencing" Frank's waking up and walking to the castle. Since what would be a mundane evening for Voldemorte, being pestered by Wormtail wouldn't really make his emotions high enough to pull Harry's mind in, but the chance to lord over someone and hold their life in his hands mixed with the indignation of being spied on by a muggle would.
Love the channel! Keeps me awake on the way to work :)
18:00 I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE SLOW MOTION DREAM THING!!!!!
I have that all the freaking time and you explained it perfectly. Im always having dreams where I either just can’t run for some reason or where i simply can’t stand up altogether. Like ill be struggling to stand up but my legs are just so weak that i can’t do it. I freaking hate that, i thought it was just me though.
Dementors would definitely not eat grilled cheese. Instead they would eat chilled grease.
If they were British they would eat cheese on toast.
So ....... snapes hair then
Maybe Harry can see Frank get out of bed because Voldy did a speed run through Frank’s memory? 🤔
1:21:29
Do you think the contemporary royalty is aware of wizards? we know the prime minister is. but now im wondering what do all the government and royal family think and do about the wizards if they know
I agree that Lupin should have been written to, and I'd like to propose that the loose floorboard is a result of unintended magic. Harry needed a place to hide things, and came across this because he needed it. Much like his hair growing back or him getting onto the roof.
Harry lay flat on his back, breathing hard as though he had been running (faster than Hermione).
I like that when Harry runs his injuries through his head, he doesn't mention that his arm has been pierced by a foot long fang because he was saving someone, or that he had stopped Voldy many times, hinting at his INSANE humility.
Hey Brothers! The playlist for Prisoner is backwards and it’s driving me crazy. And also aren’t there a couple chapters missing from it? Love the show, and even more so when I can binge it.
Who would've guess, a nerd is flapping about Harry not sending a letter to a nerd. Sirius is so much better choice. Maybe Harry didn't spend enough time with Sirius, but he suits Harry's persona way more. Harry didn't want a cautious professor type that will worry needlessly, he wanted a rebelious in your face kind of guy that will take this siriously (pun intended) but won't overreact. Also the fact that Harry's parents appointed Sirius to be Harry's LEGAL guardian is probably a good argument for Sirius too.
With names like Fleamont and Euphemia, I find it so hard to believe they named their only kid JAMES
Maybe they wanted their only kid to have a normal name
My butler and maid growing up were a couple called Funghai and Mpilize. They called their sons Gregory and James.
Why? Fleamont spent his Hogwarts years frequently getting into duels over people making fun of his name. So he could very well want his son to have a nice normal name so as to avoid what happened to him.
@ ooh didn’t know that backstory, that makes a lot more sense
the school holidays are different in the UK. summer holidays are always 6 weeks long.. then there is 2 weeks for christmas, 2 weeks for easter and 1 week in the spring, 1 week in the summer
I was their in LA for this love show! So much fun!
I can’t believe I am now caught up. I can’t comprehend I have to wait until Sunday for another episode.
If Harry's scar generates heat, then how many nightmares does it take to cook a chicken? 😂
I would chalk up Harry seeing the scene from Frank's point of view to the author not having come up with the whole horcrux structure etc yet but in this scene we could explain it by saying that Voldemort was essentially invading Frank's mind so forcefully that he watched it unfold through Frank's eyes himself and therefore so did Harry.
Could Harry seeing through Frank's perspective be him seeing through Voldemort's Legilimancy on Frank?
Or through Peter since Voldemort was just in his mind determining whether Peter was lying.
I've always interpreted the perspective in chapter 1 as Voldemort reading Frank's mind before killing him. I figured that explained why Harry saw things from Franks perspective.
Oh that makes a lot of sense. I always wondered if there was some weird magic that somehow connected them, but that completely makes sense.
Literally assumed it was a flamingo. No matter what it was, using a tropical bird is like sending a return address anyone can read, if they know where said bird came from.
I have always imagined a Toucan
Dumbledore's holiday would definitely be 2 weeks in Ibiza as in the 90s it was a big rave party holiday location and you know he'd go clubbing 😂
@53:40 in the first book Harry describes it as being broken at least twice. I've always assumed somebody mended it quickly and later on Dumbledore re-broke his nose too physically remind himself that he is not perfect.
Notes--Always good descriptions of how it is to be nearsighted. Harry's dream--precursor to OaP. Memories = water--vivid description, as is Harry being as welcome to the Durselys as dry rot. Not able to confide in the Durselys--lonely. Hidden wizarding world--Statute of Secrecy. Harry knows Hermione and Ron very well as per their reactions. The background info is well-integrated into the chapter plotline. The Durselys reaction to Sirius--Harry knows them very well too. In his letter to Sirius, Harry mentioning Dudley's reaction to his new eating style shows how when you do have someone to confide in, even little things unconnected to the main subject are something to share.
Vacation Dumbledore is just Merlin form Disney's Sword in the stone when he gets back from Bermuda
I think we all know Dudley's go-to game would be Ape Escape.
I don't know why James and Lily being 21 is a problem... People especially elderly parents like James' can go from totally healthy to dying in a few months. Plus the marauders being young is the point its tragic and it mirrors Harry Ron and Hermione, they're child soldiers in a resistance it's really sad, and when Harry goes to face Voldemort in the forest he is SO close in age to James they must look almost identical 😢
I mean - at what age did they their parents have them as children? Because they could have them at the age of 60 and it would still be reasonable for them to be alive. Both Lily and James's parents passed away when their children were only 20, that is of course not impossible, but highly unlikely and comes across more as not realizing the age implications
@RancorSnp Fleamont and Euphemia had James late in life (in fact, they had given up on being able to have children at all by that time). They died of dragon pox, and apparently wizards are more prone to dying of it if they contract the disease when they're elderly.
I thought Harry was seeing through Voldy as well as Nagini. Like Harry sees through bits of Voldy and Voldy Prime.
incredible revalation that this book starts on my birthday
How come Tom was so upset that dumbledore didn't give him the DADA position? He showed up to the interview with his face looking like it had features "blurred or burned off." Even if dumbledore didn't suspect Tom, no way he or dippet, OR any headmaster, hire someone who obviously did dark magic to the point he's unrecognizable. If he actually wanted the job, wouldn't he have put a glamour on. So was the curse for not getting the job or punishment because he felt embarrassed that dumbledore knew so much once again.
We've had 3 years of the Dursley's failing Harry's birthday. This seems like that the text has assumed that you now feel Harry's macro scale indifference. The best he will receive is diluted by time and distance (space).
You want proof of the Royal Names just look at the Queens, both Victoria and Elizabeth. They kept the Windsor name not their husbands
The current royal name of Windsor dates back to 1917 during the First World War, the name changed from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor due to anti-German sentiment and George V worrying about a possible revolution in the UK. Also we have a castle here in England called Windsor where George V hung around in a lot apparently.
@Ryan_Giggs97 yes was going to put that but couldn't at the time. But the point remains the same. They didn't change their name to accommodate their respective husbands
From my perspective, Harry getting 8 weeks off is luxurious! Most British state schools have 6-week summer holidays.
Damn, i forgot it was Sunday. Time moves so quickly!
1:09:17 you guys are so good at yes-and-ing lol. Random thought evolves into a fully fledged theory lol
Grilled cheese - the ultimate weapon against dementors
My headcanon for why Harry can see the scene with Frank and Voldemort from a different POV is because of Voldemist and what happened to it after Voldemort is in Baby Voldemort.
I mean, Baby Voldemort has to be an artificial body and that Peter had a hand in making it.
I mean, if Voldemort knew he'd need constant feeding then there'd be no reason for Voldemort to make the body unless he had a servant. So I think he instructed Peter on how to make the baby body. This explains Voldemort complaining about Peter's clumsy care and implies that Peter could have made a stronger or at least less dependent body for him if he was a better wizard.
So when Voldemort moved to inhabit the Baby Voldemort body, I think he left behind an invisible remnant of Voldemist that surrounds Baby Voldemort's immediate area that he's not in control of because his consciousness is in Baby Voldemort.
Because of that, I've always believed that specifically during this one scene Harry Potter is looking at the scene through the lens of the invisible remnants of Voldemist.
I mean, it's not like it really matters. We never see Voldemist again and this is an answer that doesn't break canon if we assume that Voldemort's adult body absorbs the remnants of Voldemist when he's in the cauldron.
TLDR: Harry can see the scene from a different perspective because he sees the scene through Voldemist. When Voldemort properly resurrects, he unintentionally reabsorbs Voldemist so Harry can't see from that POV anymore.
Great theory! My headcanon was similar to this, that Harry and Voldemort’s connection isn’t as strong as it is in Book 5 and on because Voldemort’s rudimentary body wasn’t ‘his’ it was just a vessel his spirit form was inhabiting. Kind of like how Harry didn’t get any visions from when Voldemort was inhabiting Quirrell.
But because of Wormtail’s care and the feedings from Nagini through the body Voldemort is strong enough for the horcrux connection mind-link to kick in
Grilled cheese are awesome. Absolutely they could destroy a dementor. XD Xoxo
Its funny, this was actually the first Harry Potter book I ever read as a kid, so it was interesting getting a little recap at the start and just filling in the blanks in the story myself
damn it guys now I have the mental image of Voldemort drinking a morning coffee eating a bowl of Coco Pops as Harry enters the mental link they share.
With one of those color changing spoons
@@ShirleyLestrade with the spoon that has a straw to drink the chocolate milk
@@ricey23 oh yes I like that better
Bertha was killed to make Nagini the horcrux so it's been my headcanon that he's seeing it from Nagini's perspective
Except nagini literally shows up in that dream. She literally slithers into the room to let Voldemort know that frank is there
@gingersnap8543 Harry isn't the narrative perspective for the whole scene, we only know he sees the final part
@ and not once in the scene does it say anything along the lines of showing us a perspective change. If he had been seeing things through naginis eyes, he wouldn’t be able to recall her later in the book, which he does, but also he would’ve had a similar reaction to what happens in order of the pheonix, or at the very least, when It happened AGAIN in order of the phoenix, he wouldn’t have been as caught off-guard or surprised about “being the snake” in order of the pheonix, as that’s not the first time. Also the only reason Harry ever sees through the eyes of the snake in the first place is because he’s actually seeing through Voldemort, who is possessing nagini at the time.
I was thinking you may struggle to make it long with how short and not eventful that chapter was, but surprise! You’re the best guys
Love this show. Can't wait for the Orlando show!!! I get to read the chapter, listen to Fry, Dale and Carlin. The best voices of the wizarding world. Speaking of lineage, if the raven claws were a noble family, pure blooded as it were, I'm curious of the descendents. There must of been more then the sacred 28. For that matter, what happened to the rest of the founders. Surely they have not completely died out. All questions for the founders series.
I really wish we could have found out more in the neighbors talked about the dursleys being absolutely horrible people Petunia probably would have known that ASAP. And I would hope that she would have done something to correct that but I doubt that.
Thanks For this Guys! LOVE this book
Interesting thought when you guys were talking about the owls finding people and the connection between names and the people that own them. I wonder if that network or magic is what the maurader's tapped into when making the map of Hogwarts. It would explain how the map knows which dot is what person.
You guys missed one and indeed the FIRST moment when Harry's scar hurts, which was one of the misdirection tactics in the first book.
It in the great feast at the start of the year and happened when Quirrell was facing away and Snape was facing at Harry.
Which made Harry think it was because of Snape staring whilst it was because Quirrell facing away (Voldemort staring at him).