Sonya's redesign looks like it's supposed to be an alternate timeline version of the character who's a Black Dragon gang member. The bootknife in particular invokes Kano's knives.
There was an earlier mk8 talked about in interviews when Armageddon was released that wasn't a reboot - but a post-timeskip continuation. I assume this version of mk8 was conceived later on during dcu's development/release.
I was reading an interview where Ed Boon said he was really inspired by gears of war and they wanted to make a mortal kombat game with a really dark tone. That game didn’t happen because they went bankrupt, but in my opinion they still got to do it with MK X. That game was extremely dark. Even down to the menus. So we still got the game that got canceled (almost)
@@Gogeta2501definitely don’t miss slow paced mk11, MKX is always GOATED and so is mk9, but it’s crazy how people say they miss those games when a lot of people wasn’t around to play those games…mk9 made 2 to 3 million copies sold, MKX made 10 million and mk11 made 15 million so most people came late MKX to mk11 so yeah I don’t get why people say that
@@darkzeroprojects4245 let’s say they stop making Mortal Kombat games, the Franchise won’t die because of movies, books, merchandises and other stuff, so you 🥷 be making me laugh tbh💀💀
A direct sequel to Armageddon would have been fantastic! I actually like Armageddon from a story standpoint. I'm not that big a fan of the multiverse stuff. The concept of the multiverse can be really interesting when used sparingly, but unfortunately it's too often used to cover up contrived storytelling and lazy writing.
I mean... 9 literally is a direct sequel. Shao won the war and beat Blaze Got the ultimate power and used it to wipe out his enemies (just Dark Raiden left at that point) and then re order the universe in his whim. That timeline would continue but everyone's dead other than him
@@ClericOfPholtus I would of preferred the konquest ending. I'd of bought that everyone murdered one another and few like Raiden and Khan were the few surivorx whole Taven was trying to delay Armageddon somewhere. That could of been the thing to go for over retconning it being Shao Khan winning. It's harder for me to buy it cuz of how much they made Shao a complete moron in mk9 to present.
@@ClericOfPholtus You're not wrong, but I was thinking of an aftermath scenario. Since Armageddon's conquest mode was all about Taven and Daegon, from a story standpoint I'm pretty sure one of them is intended to beat Blaze. I would have liked to see that story move forward rather than erasing and altering everything.
I like the idea of using Gears of War as an inspiration and the dark gritty approach sounded great on paper but after seeing the early concept art, I’m not really sure. Let’s say that if this was a “what if” scenario where The Great Kung Lao’s death was the final line of defense and Shao Kahn’s right to merge the realms lead to a 50 year war between Outworld and Earthrealm, then I can understand some of the design choices.
Omg that Scorpion artwork, had it printed out and on my wall. From what I understood at the time the artist was just sharing the concept they brought forth to the developpers but got rejected.
Idc what anyone says, MK vs DC was not that bad, not the best in the franchise but I felt it had a solid story mode, being able to play between each side was fun, the fatalities were yeah lackluster, but it didn't ruin the game for me, I think if they remade it today it could be dope. it was really DC that ruined that game because they didn't want heroes killing or being killed which blows my mind when you take into account the amount of times DC has told dark gruesome stories
@@cosmiccentral1651it was terrible but with a lot of rough edges that could’ve changed things. Outside of the T rating, the story needed to be revised with more depth for why the rage phenomena was dangerous, the combos need to be modernized but more simple, and character dynamics really need to be refined for why these characters would be here.
I know some folks don't like the visuals of MKX, but it's my favorite. Which kind of lowkey bad for me because it's the only MK game that I've never played.
I think they need to license out the IP after MK1 is done (and NRS is working on the next superhero game) and let a smaller studio create a stylized lo-fi Mortal Kombat. The concept art for MK8 is so cool, they should do a sprite based game with designs like that. A sprite based game with simple redesigns and title card type storylines would be a great way to soft launch an actual reboot where we can stop with the time travel stuff.
@@childofcain666 not sure their gotta make it man that been cancelled sorry but ed boon won’t unless you all gotta end up haven new fighting game man jeez 😒
@@tylermatthew349 yeah i don’t think he’ll make it either. Ed’s probably making too much money on these DLC packs to care. Money is probably why MK V DC became a thing as well.
Yeah it's ridiculous in my opinion. She's literally wearing no pants. LOL. That MK 9 characterization was bad as well. I was 23 & in my senior year in college when MK 9 came out. Even then being who I was, I thought that skin was over the top.
Also they seem like they tried emulate desing of KI's Orchid including the sword regardless Orchid has dual sabers and she even had more covering costume still.😎😎🤷♂🤷♂
I've always been astounded by some of the fans need for the women to be wearing stripper clothing. This feels like a product of that and I'm glad by mkx to mk1 they gave sonya real clothing
Kano's origin wa actually his original bio, in MK1 Kano was an american orphan raised in Japan which is why he used a gi. In Raiden's case he was a jerkass god who only joined the tournament to prove he was better.
I didn’t mind MK having another reboot, due to the franchise not being the first to do it. Tomb Raider did it first, and those games turned out to be enjoyable. Even other franchises did it, such as Prince of Persia, Wolfenstein, etc. Honestly, MK1 became one of my favorite MK games of all time, and I love the multiverse stuff.
Meh i find her fine since it's a fictional fighting game that M rated haha. Is sexy designed characters are bad when there's tons of women wearing sexy outfits freely in real life? Modern Mk fans have some allergy sexy designs.
@@amornoro2076I like sexy designs but the outfit there is still awful from a design perspective. Like the whole thing doesn't even feel like Sonya, it's like someone made a character in Soulcalibur and just used green. The heavy duty boots with the rest of her legs being uncovered just looks odd too. Glad it wasn't used again
@@greywakezmhm plus respectfully a characters design should feel like something the actual character would were mileena wearing revealing clothing makes sense same with mk9 skarlet (tho I prefer for 11 design more)
I liked the concept art for MK8. It looked grungy and violent and gritty. Sonya basically was wearing her MK 92' get up, minus the tights. Same with Kano, his origin is alsk the same as MK92 (Japanese gangster) Some aspects of the art were used in MKX, like Scorpions gauntlets, Subzeros padded armor and weapon creating. Quan Chi's armor. So bits of it did survive but were put into more ... light hearted games
I actually worked in games media at the time, and the two big stories I learned about, but wasn't allowed to report-because I didn't want to burn bridges with any sources-was a lot of the inner happenings at THQ, as well as a lot of the happenings at Midway. Here's what I know, based on things I heard... Obviously it's been years and the only one who can truly confirm this is Ed, but MK8 was actually being developed, as in they had working builds. So somewhere out there, MK8 does exist in early forms. The idea was to introduce a "new generation" of fighters, so there was only going to be a few returning characters. The deal with Warner happened during development, as you guessed, and what was completed of MK8 was essentially "Frankensteined" into MK vs DCU. Warner wanted more of a "comic book" tone, so the character designed were toned down to work alongside the DCU characters.
The thing is with Armageddon it's kind of stale afterwards once you collected all the relics in konquest it unlocks everything and there's no replay value afterwards you just start from the beginning with nothing to collect
That's what I always thought and just consider Shaolin monks as the 7th game. I didn't know mk vs DC was considered the 8th game until the other day lol
I like all the concept designs of MK8. Even Sonya's. I think the green suits her more than the all-black get up we got in MK9. Literally just drop the weeb sword and give her brown cargo shorts and it's perfect.
That Sonya design was interesting. I don't like tattoos but overall, not that bad, just too experimental. Raiden looks more like Ashrah tho. The Midway era was by far my favorite mk era - it was so entertaining and creative. Sweet memories from the past
I've seen that concept art, they're still saved on my phone, didn't realize it was from a game that didn't come out... Now do Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus... Since Tobias worked on it... & Kakuto Chojin: Back Alley Brutal... Since that might be the last Original IP to come out and fighting games... And then since we're talking about the original Xbox, just do one on Deathrow... That's a fighting game, and a sports game, and it has teams... I effin love that game
no fr! especially the sonya design, i thought all of those was just some artists fan art or designs for the characters. cause you know how crazy people can get with their fanarts for this series especially
@@frozenfightiq316 NetherRealm started good with MK9 , MKX was fun but still prefer MK9 , tho MK11 was mid gameplay wise the game wasn’t bad but they fumbled with MK12.
@@aryelrosa4829 the further and further we get into the nrs mortal kombat games, they’re straying too far from what everyone loved about the games, no one likes the super bright happy colors, the multiverses, mk1 is like kids bop compared to the 3d era & mk9/x
Not sure if anyone recalls, but long ago there was a (high quality) fan movie trailer setting MK in a Saw like environment, without fantasy and showing the "bad guys" as psychopath killers that are hunted by the "heroes". Too bad this was never taken up
Am i the only person on earth that doesnt think MK vs DC is as bag as everyone makes it out to be?? It's obviously not the greatest MK game, it's not MK Special Forces. 😂😂
i reckon half japanese half australian kano would be really cool and way more realistic cos the countries are closer together, also there isn't much diversity between the white portion of the cast
Sonya's gear should have been envisioned as practical actual military gear much like Captain America's WWII outfit. Practical not sexual because that is how military outs work best.
Interesting. The original bio for Kano had him listed as a Japanese/American halfbreed, so they wanted to go back to that background for him at some point during development.
Weird that they were going for a dark serious take for this game, but ended up as MK Vs DC Universe instead. Just looking at their concept art, really shows what the characters in this game has gone through after Armageddon. Makes me wonder what the story was going to be.
When I watched this, I thought it would’ve been something like an aftermath of Armageddon with Scorpion and Sub-Zero as the only survivors and a whole new cast, like what read from somewhere else.
You know...I just thought of something. I honestly believe that the Kreate A Fatality should've only been the Kreate A Fighter characters and the original characters had their own Fatality even if it were just one per character...the Kreate A Fatality is what killed Armageddon for me...that was a horrible idea
Once I put MK vs DC in my Xbox and when it read the disc the picture never came up, just the default icon for an unrecognizable cd (as if u put a PS3 game in) and it said Mortal Kombat 8 instead of MK vs DC like normal. There, mystery solved.
They haven't got a clue what to do with the mk storyline it's more up and down these days the rain doesn't know if it is dropping downwards or fkin sideways. The special thing about mk was you left it to your own interpretation, you finished the ladder with whatever character you wanted and seen their ending and we would play for days, months... hell YEARS later and the first 3 games are still the best! Trying to make mk into a Hollywood blockbuster totally fucking ruined it! Shoulda been left well alone just like the crow! Fair enough mk9 was the icing on the cake it was wonderful, everything else is.. well, whatever you make it really
MK9 was the closest you were gonna get to legacy because it took a lot from MKVSDC. The neutral jump punch comes from MK VS DC. The sound you hear from Breakers in MK9 was the exact same sound in MK VS DC. Even some of the sound effects after being hit is from MK VS DC. MK9 essentially is MK VS DC on a 2D plain that has been graphically updated but it clearly is the foundation and root base for its gameplay.
I believe Kano was always supposed to be half Japanese/half American. At least in the original MK1 1992, I think I remember reading that in the bio. It wasn’t until the first movie where they made the choice to give him an Australian accent, and it went over so big they decided to run with it
I still have the concept photos of Scorpion and Subzero for this canceled game. I thought the designs were cool as hell. I remember seeing those a long time ago. Cool to see someone talk about this.
MK9,X and 11 should’ve been MK8,9,X. They made it seem like MK v DC was MK8 which that should’ve never counted as a numbered mainline game it should’ve been its own thing. But they could’ve fixed that by not calling the 2015 MK game MKX it should’ve been 9. And Mk1 by the way, should’ve been a Ward title like the 3D era they should’ve went from stop using the numbers again. I would’ve called MK1, MK Genesis or New Era.
I like Mortal Kombat vs DCU! Very underrated! But then again I Love ALL Mortal Kombat games! I literally don't play ANY other games besides MK at all! God Bless Everyone Amen 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
There are 3 timelines in mortal kombat lore now which is like the games from the 90s is from the original timeline and then the ones with mk 2011 and mkx and mk11 is gonna be the timeline 2 or it can be called the reboot timeline and since liu kang restarted everything from scratch we can call his timeline the new mortal kombat universe as a way to not get confused with things
So, there’s a mk channel that I can’t remember the name of the account. But, both of them love cyrex and sector and they go by the name of mustard and ketchup.. but idr the name… anyone in the community know it??
Armageddon could’ve been so much better, and I hated how we were limited to only like a couple combat styles and the universal “Kreate a Fatality” feature. All characters lost their signature and unique fatalities and styles.
Iunno, that Sonya design could be her stepping away from Special Forces,and maybe being a more interesting character? Just my take, not a great design, but the most interesting imo.
When i look back at the arcade endings of MK9 and the story plot of MKX, it wouldn't really be surprising that these elements were meant to be used if we had gotten MK8. I also even agree with The 4thSnake after his coverage on MKX story, that it most definitely would've worked as a good sequel to Armageddon. To me personally I dont even consider MK9 a true sequel to Armageddon, given that there were a lot contradictions in its story. Even the story elements from MK11 couldn't save it as it raised to many plot holes.
The reason for not having fatalities per character in Armageddon was due to data constraints. It was already reaching the limit to how big a PS2 game's file can get, they also had time constraints and had to rush the game. There's no multiple fighting styles per character for this reason too, they gave most of them to other characters so they didn't have to develop new ones from scratch.
I would love a Mortal Kombat arena game where you can have team matches and every man for themselves and Armageddon mode where you can have like 10 fighters in a big area at once let me cook 👨🍳 and just give us Mortal Kombat Shaolin monks as a unlockable
12:16 hold up you think netherrealm needed Warner Brother. I think Warner Brother WB is ruining Mortal Kombat as we speak . Onslaught is not going to exist much longer so there goes one mobile game hopefully they don't mess around with MK mobile too much to the point where they destroy it because they want to add cameos to it which is a dumb idea nobody likes cameos and MK1 people figured out how to use it but no one is a huge fan of it. What I'm saying is wouldn't you rather play a Serena Kano Sonya Blade instead of having them pop up once in a while. So I think the heads of the studios are the ones that are basically ruining Mortal Kombat they just really need to go away. I'm a huge fan of Mortal Kombat mobile I love that game and to watch it slowly become something that it's not it's very sad. So this Cameo mode will either destroy MK mobile or it might be good I'm trying not to be cynical I'm trying to be positive but how many times has Mortal Kombat made a change and it happened to be a bad move a lot more than good
New timeline is so boring and messy. They took away decades of lore and world building, specially from the PS2 games like Deception, where you get to travel to different realms in Konquest. I miss Hanzo's revenant Scorpion, i miss Kuai Liang Sub, i miss insane bloodthirsty Mileena. Now it feels like we are just playing with very basic replacements and MK1 story is quite bad and forgettable, it doesn't evolve most of these new versions of the characters in any way.
I don't consider Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe as Mortal Kombat 8. I still consider Mortal Kombat (2011) as Mortal Kombat 8, chronologically following Mortal Kombat Armageddon, which is Mortal Kombat 7. I've been saying that Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe basically fucked up the numerical order, when it was labeled as Mortal Kombat 8 + naming the newest game as Mortal Kombat 1 just causes a lot of confusion, I feel like. To me, the true Mortal Kombat 1 is the original 1992 game. Just for fun, I came up with this idea of renaming some of the game titles & even giving the 2nd & 3rd timelines each their own subtitles... Original Timeline (1992 to 2006) -Mortal Kombat (1992) is Mortal Kombat 1 -Mortal Kombat II -Mortal Kombat 3, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, Mortal Kombat 3 Advance (Mortal Kombat Advance) & Mortal Kombat Trilogy -Mortal Kombat 4 & Mortal Kombat 4 Gold (Mortal Kombat Gold) -Mortal Kombat V or Mortal Kombat V: Deadly Alliance & Mortal Kombat V: Tournament Edition -Mortal Kombat 6 or Mortal Kombat 6: Deception & Mortal Kombat 6: Unchained -Mortal Kombat 7 or Mortal Kombat 7: Armageddon Shao Kahn wins Armageddon & Raiden uses his shattered amulet to send the "He must win" message to himself in the past, resulting in what I'll call the Reborn Timeline. Reborn Timeline (2011 to 2020) -Mortal Kombat Reborn, which can also be Mortal Kombat Reborn 1, which is what I renamed Mortal Kombat (2011) or Mortal Kombat 9 as most people call it -Mortal Kombat Reborn 2 (Mortal Kombat X) & Mortal Kombat Reborn 2XL (Mortal Kombat XL) -Mortal Kombat Reborn 3 (Mortal Kombat 11), Mortal Kombat Reborn 3: Aftermath (Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath) & Mortal Kombat Reborn 3 Ultimate (Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate) Liu Kang defeats Kronika & now has control over the Hourglass & the Sands of Time, which he used to create what I'll call the New Era Timeline. New Era Timeline (2023 to present) -Mortal Kombat: New Era, which can later be called Mortal Kombat: New Era 1 (Mortal Kombat 1, 2023)
I am beyond happy mk8 didn't happen in that dark gritty form, mk is best when its silly, its not great when its taking itself too seriously, i think a serious mk espically at that time would have flopped and killed the franchise as a whole
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Sonya's redesign looks like it's supposed to be an alternate timeline version of the character who's a Black Dragon gang member. The bootknife in particular invokes Kano's knives.
evokes*
If a lot of heroes were killed, makes sense. She’d have to fight harder to survive, which might mean more underhanded tactics.
Kano actually was white and Japanese till after mk3. The actor in the movie had an Australian accent and ed boon loved it.
There was an earlier mk8 talked about in interviews when Armageddon was released that wasn't a reboot - but a post-timeskip continuation. I assume this version of mk8 was conceived later on during dcu's development/release.
I was reading an interview where Ed Boon said he was really inspired by gears of war and they wanted to make a mortal kombat game with a really dark tone. That game didn’t happen because they went bankrupt, but in my opinion they still got to do it with MK X. That game was extremely dark. Even down to the menus. So we still got the game that got canceled (almost)
I just wish Mortal Kombat can go back to the way it was like getting Tag Team again and Hanzo being Scorpion.
@@Gogeta2501definitely don’t miss slow paced mk11, MKX is always GOATED and so is mk9, but it’s crazy how people say they miss those games when a lot of people wasn’t around to play those games…mk9 made 2 to 3 million copies sold, MKX made 10 million and mk11 made 15 million so most people came late MKX to mk11 so yeah I don’t get why people say that
@coreyharris6998 MKX was around 2015-2016 bud. People were definitely around and up until 2019
Well you can still play it lol
I rather the franchise die at this point.
@@darkzeroprojects4245 let’s say they stop making Mortal Kombat games, the Franchise won’t die because of movies, books, merchandises and other stuff, so you 🥷 be making me laugh tbh💀💀
A direct sequel to Armageddon would have been fantastic! I actually like Armageddon from a story standpoint. I'm not that big a fan of the multiverse stuff. The concept of the multiverse can be really interesting when used sparingly, but unfortunately it's too often used to cover up contrived storytelling and lazy writing.
I mean... 9 literally is a direct sequel.
Shao won the war and beat Blaze
Got the ultimate power and used it to wipe out his enemies (just Dark Raiden left at that point) and then re order the universe in his whim.
That timeline would continue but everyone's dead other than him
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I would of preferred the konquest ending.
I'd of bought that everyone murdered one another and few like Raiden and Khan were the few surivorx whole Taven was trying to delay Armageddon somewhere.
That could of been the thing to go for over retconning it being Shao Khan winning.
It's harder for me to buy it cuz of how much they made Shao a complete moron in mk9 to present.
@@ClericOfPholtus Yeah that's a direct sequel isn't it
8 was sounding more like a full reboot, starting from scratch, ojm689 😅
@@ClericOfPholtus You're not wrong, but I was thinking of an aftermath scenario. Since Armageddon's conquest mode was all about Taven and Daegon, from a story standpoint I'm pretty sure one of them is intended to beat Blaze. I would have liked to see that story move forward rather than erasing and altering everything.
I like the idea of using Gears of War as an inspiration and the dark gritty approach sounded great on paper but after seeing the early concept art, I’m not really sure. Let’s say that if this was a “what if” scenario where The Great Kung Lao’s death was the final line of defense and Shao Kahn’s right to merge the realms lead to a 50 year war between Outworld and Earthrealm, then I can understand some of the design choices.
Omg that Scorpion artwork, had it printed out and on my wall. From what I understood at the time the artist was just sharing the concept they brought forth to the developpers but got rejected.
Love to see you talk about concept art more often love someone talk about the MKX concept art and the original version of the Kombat Kids.
I thought MK vs DC was Mortal Kombat 8, in a way at least.
It is, that's why MK 2011 is MK9
0:49 Hence, he said, "in development prior to MKvsDC."
So if this wasn't canceled, it would have been 8 instead.
I'm really trying to forget that this game ever existed, what hot garbage it was.
Idc what anyone says, MK vs DC was not that bad, not the best in the franchise but I felt it had a solid story mode, being able to play between each side was fun, the fatalities were yeah lackluster, but it didn't ruin the game for me, I think if they remade it today it could be dope. it was really DC that ruined that game because they didn't want heroes killing or being killed which blows my mind when you take into account the amount of times DC has told dark gruesome stories
@@cosmiccentral1651it was terrible but with a lot of rough edges that could’ve changed things. Outside of the T rating, the story needed to be revised with more depth for why the rage phenomena was dangerous, the combos need to be modernized but more simple, and character dynamics really need to be refined for why these characters would be here.
I know some folks don't like the visuals of MKX, but it's my favorite. Which kind of lowkey bad for me because it's the only MK game that I've never played.
The Raiden artwork looks like he came straight out of Big Trouble in Little China.
I know, right?
Makes sense.
His 'waist' looks kinda jacked up, tho 🤨
THIS
I mean, Raiden _and_ (elderly) Shang Tsung *both* come straight out of _Big Trouble in Little China._ 😏
I think they need to license out the IP after MK1 is done (and NRS is working on the next superhero game) and let a smaller studio create a stylized lo-fi Mortal Kombat. The concept art for MK8 is so cool, they should do a sprite based game with designs like that. A sprite based game with simple redesigns and title card type storylines would be a great way to soft launch an actual reboot where we can stop with the time travel stuff.
💯 agreed
I’m still waiting for the sequel to Shaolin monks, Fire and Ice.
That should have been mk8 but ed boon decided to make mk vs dc crossover 😒
@@childofcain666 not sure their gotta make it man that been cancelled sorry but ed boon won’t unless you all gotta end up haven new fighting game man jeez 😒
@@tylermatthew349 yeah i don’t think he’ll make it either. Ed’s probably making too much money on these DLC packs to care. Money is probably why MK V DC became a thing as well.
@@childofcain666 true
You'll be waiting forever lol.
I never thought I'd see a design for Sonya that was more oversexualized than MK9 but here we are
Yeah it's ridiculous in my opinion. She's literally wearing no pants. LOL. That MK 9 characterization was bad as well. I was 23 & in my senior year in college when MK 9 came out. Even then being who I was, I thought that skin was over the top.
I think it's the best part of the game .
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Ironically I hope
Also they seem like they tried emulate desing of KI's Orchid including the sword regardless Orchid has dual sabers and she even had more covering costume still.😎😎🤷♂🤷♂
I've always been astounded by some of the fans need for the women to be wearing stripper clothing. This feels like a product of that and I'm glad by mkx to mk1 they gave sonya real clothing
Kano's origin wa actually his original bio, in MK1 Kano was an american orphan raised in Japan which is why he used a gi.
In Raiden's case he was a jerkass god who only joined the tournament to prove he was better.
Their Mario kart was so fun! I wish they’d bring it back!
I didn’t mind MK having another reboot, due to the franchise not being the first to do it. Tomb Raider did it first, and those games turned out to be enjoyable. Even other franchises did it, such as Prince of Persia, Wolfenstein, etc. Honestly, MK1 became one of my favorite MK games of all time, and I love the multiverse stuff.
Glad to hear you like m1k I also like it
I feel like this opinion is in the minority
don’t let anyone from twitter find this rare opinion! MK1 rocks.
MK is not meant for that, is a dark, mean game. I respect your opinion but definitely not share it.
You could be more WRONG!
That sonya design is awful but the scorpion and sub zero were really cool
Bro, Sonya looks like a p rn parody of MK wtff
Meh i find her fine since it's a fictional fighting game that M rated haha. Is sexy designed characters are bad when there's tons of women wearing sexy outfits freely in real life? Modern Mk fans have some allergy sexy designs.
@@amornoro2076I like sexy designs but the outfit there is still awful from a design perspective. Like the whole thing doesn't even feel like Sonya, it's like someone made a character in Soulcalibur and just used green. The heavy duty boots with the rest of her legs being uncovered just looks odd too. Glad it wasn't used again
@@greywakezmhm plus respectfully a characters design should feel like something the actual character would were mileena wearing revealing clothing makes sense same with mk9 skarlet (tho I prefer for 11 design more)
I liked the concept art for MK8. It looked grungy and violent and gritty. Sonya basically was wearing her MK 92' get up, minus the tights. Same with Kano, his origin is alsk the same as MK92 (Japanese gangster) Some aspects of the art were used in MKX, like Scorpions gauntlets, Subzeros padded armor and weapon creating. Quan Chi's armor. So bits of it did survive but were put into more ... light hearted games
I actually worked in games media at the time, and the two big stories I learned about, but wasn't allowed to report-because I didn't want to burn bridges with any sources-was a lot of the inner happenings at THQ, as well as a lot of the happenings at Midway. Here's what I know, based on things I heard... Obviously it's been years and the only one who can truly confirm this is Ed, but MK8 was actually being developed, as in they had working builds. So somewhere out there, MK8 does exist in early forms. The idea was to introduce a "new generation" of fighters, so there was only going to be a few returning characters.
The deal with Warner happened during development, as you guessed, and what was completed of MK8 was essentially "Frankensteined" into MK vs DCU. Warner wanted more of a "comic book" tone, so the character designed were toned down to work alongside the DCU characters.
That Sonya concept tho 👀👀👀
The thing is with Armageddon it's kind of stale afterwards once you collected all the relics in konquest it unlocks everything and there's no replay value afterwards you just start from the beginning with nothing to collect
sonya’s model is also her model from mkvsdc but with a different outfit lol
The concept art for Sonya looks like rikku from ffx
Never knew about this!!
Now i want the REAL MK 8 🥹
Was the Sub Zero in this game supposed to be Bi Han or Kuai Liang?
MK 2011 will always be MK8 to me. It begins where the 7th game ended, and VS DC is a spinoff crossover
Makes no sense when MKX and MK11 exist but ok
That's what I always thought and just consider Shaolin monks as the 7th game. I didn't know mk vs DC was considered the 8th game until the other day lol
MK Trilogy Is The Real MK4
@@KingShibe they called it MK11 because everyone called 8 and X, 9 and 10 anyway
@@desantos288 x is the roman numeral of 10 so
That sub zero design is his best one by far
I just considered mk vs dc as a part 8 but like a marvels "what if" type deal.
Weren’t these just sketches one of the designers did in his spare time or for a pitch? I’d never heard this was the early workings of MK8 before.
There should be Mortal Kombat 8 released on arcade and consoles (PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360) with 28 playable kharacters at launch
I like all the concept designs of MK8. Even Sonya's. I think the green suits her more than the all-black get up we got in MK9. Literally just drop the weeb sword and give her brown cargo shorts and it's perfect.
That fan concept in the thumbnail was cold
Kano was always half Japanese, the only reason he’s Australian is do to the movie portrayal. How did you not know this?
That Sonya design was interesting. I don't like tattoos but overall, not that bad, just too experimental. Raiden looks more like Ashrah tho. The Midway era was by far my favorite mk era - it was so entertaining and creative. Sweet memories from the past
8:25
Best Sonya design ever🥰
Gee I wonder why?🙄
@@akilcharles3473 You not gonna get it
"I play games to win, not bust a nut"
I don't agree, but fine with me.
Yeah it's trash go watch porn @@akilcharles3473
I REALLY love looking at hidden artefacts like this one 😩 hope we know more about it in the future 👀
I've seen that concept art, they're still saved on my phone, didn't realize it was from a game that didn't come out... Now do Tao Feng: Fist of the Lotus... Since Tobias worked on it... & Kakuto Chojin: Back Alley Brutal... Since that might be the last Original IP to come out and fighting games... And then since we're talking about the original Xbox, just do one on Deathrow... That's a fighting game, and a sports game, and it has teams... I effin love that game
no fr! especially the sonya design, i thought all of those was just some artists fan art or designs for the characters. cause you know how crazy people can get with their fanarts for this series especially
I miss midway💯😭
@@frozenfightiq316 NetherRealm started good with MK9 , MKX was fun but still prefer MK9 , tho MK11 was mid gameplay wise the game wasn’t bad but they fumbled with MK12.
@@aryelrosa4829 the further and further we get into the nrs mortal kombat games, they’re straying too far from what everyone loved about the games, no one likes the super bright happy colors, the multiverses, mk1 is like kids bop compared to the 3d era & mk9/x
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I rather just people abandon mk, but some just don't got the guts to.
@@aryelrosa4829mortal kombat does not have a good storyline
Mortal kombat does not have a good storyline
Not sure if anyone recalls, but long ago there was a (high quality) fan movie trailer setting MK in a Saw like environment, without fantasy and showing the "bad guys" as psychopath killers that are hunted by the "heroes". Too bad this was never taken up
Am i the only person on earth that doesnt think MK vs DC is as bag as everyone makes it out to be?? It's obviously not the greatest MK game, it's not MK Special Forces. 😂😂
Kanos original story was he was a Japanese born American. He became Australian after MK1995 live action
They were going to try and take Kano back to his roots I see. He wasn't Australian until the movie
i reckon half japanese half australian kano would be really cool and way more realistic cos the countries are closer together, also there isn't much diversity between the white portion of the cast
Midway era > NRS era
Sonya's gear should have been envisioned as practical actual military gear much like Captain America's WWII outfit. Practical not sexual because that is how military outs work best.
sex appeal
Interesting. The original bio for Kano had him listed as a Japanese/American halfbreed, so they wanted to go back to that background for him at some point during development.
6:32 shang tsung of all the characters it kinda makes sense 😂 why did they ever stick with Quan chi
Weird that they were going for a dark serious take for this game, but ended up as MK Vs DC Universe instead. Just looking at their concept art, really shows what the characters in this game has gone through after Armageddon. Makes me wonder what the story was going to be.
It probably was gon be a post apocalyptic landscape
When I watched this, I thought it would’ve been something like an aftermath of Armageddon with Scorpion and Sub-Zero as the only survivors and a whole new cast, like what read from somewhere else.
Why some people hate MK VS DC? That was an amazing game god playability great story mode and great graphics by the time
I’m going tbh I’m so disappointed these sonya scorp sub and Kano designs will never be used
I hated rhe color patterns in mkx
It was a masterpiece. Those two were great games. I wish theyd bring them back. Mk1 sucked, mk x was good 11 is meh due to lue kang
You know...I just thought of something. I honestly believe that the Kreate A Fatality should've only been the Kreate A Fighter characters and the original characters had their own Fatality even if it were just one per character...the Kreate A Fatality is what killed Armageddon for me...that was a horrible idea
Once I put MK vs DC in my Xbox and when it read the disc the picture never came up, just the default icon for an unrecognizable cd (as if u put a PS3 game in) and it said Mortal Kombat 8 instead of MK vs DC like normal. There, mystery solved.
They haven't got a clue what to do with the mk storyline it's more up and down these days the rain doesn't know if it is dropping downwards or fkin sideways.
The special thing about mk was you left it to your own interpretation, you finished the ladder with whatever character you wanted and seen their ending and we would play for days, months... hell YEARS later and the first 3 games are still the best! Trying to make mk into a Hollywood blockbuster totally fucking ruined it!
Shoulda been left well alone just like the crow! Fair enough mk9 was the icing on the cake it was wonderful, everything else is.. well, whatever you make it really
MK1❤
MK vs DC deserves more respect. I don't think we would've gotten the Injustice universe without Midway getting access to DC characters.
I dont mind getting a Kano with Billy Butcher facial hair
MK9 goated.
MK9 was the closest you were gonna get to legacy because it took a lot from MKVSDC.
The neutral jump punch comes from MK VS DC. The sound you hear from Breakers in MK9 was the exact same sound in MK VS DC.
Even some of the sound effects after being hit is from MK VS DC.
MK9 essentially is MK VS DC on a 2D plain that has been graphically updated but it clearly is the foundation and root base for its gameplay.
@9:20 Her name is Sonya BLADE. *laughs in pun*
I hope there's a Fanfick based on this out there somewhere 🤔
I believe Kano was always supposed to be half Japanese/half American. At least in the original MK1 1992, I think I remember reading that in the bio. It wasn’t until the first movie where they made the choice to give him an Australian accent, and it went over so big they decided to run with it
its good, americans love to represent themselves in media
MK vs DC was pretty much MK8
I still have the concept photos of Scorpion and Subzero for this canceled game. I thought the designs were cool as hell. I remember seeing those a long time ago. Cool to see someone talk about this.
MK9,X and 11 should’ve been MK8,9,X. They made it seem like MK v DC was MK8 which that should’ve never counted as a numbered mainline game it should’ve been its own thing. But they could’ve fixed that by not calling the 2015 MK game MKX it should’ve been 9. And Mk1 by the way, should’ve been a Ward title like the 3D era they should’ve went from stop using the numbers again. I would’ve called MK1, MK Genesis or New Era.
NAH FR I THOUGHT THE NAME MORTAL KOMBAT: A NEW ERA WENT HARD
Is it bad to say I wanna Remake of mk deception or mk9
How come the creat your character didn’t make a return?
I like mk vs dc universe I loved how over powered and easily you can combo with kitana
Mk9 was soooo great
I like Mortal Kombat vs DCU! Very underrated! But then again I Love ALL Mortal Kombat games! I literally don't play ANY other games besides MK at all! God Bless Everyone Amen 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 👊🏻🎮🐉🦂🦂🦂✌🏻
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I thought mortal kombat vs dc was mortal kombat 8
It was
@@ericdraven8784 indeed
There are 3 timelines in mortal kombat lore now which is like the games from the 90s is from the original timeline and then the ones with mk 2011 and mkx and mk11 is gonna be the timeline 2 or it can be called the reboot timeline and since liu kang restarted everything from scratch we can call his timeline the new mortal kombat universe as a way to not get confused with things
3 no mk1 todl you all mk arcad endigns are cnaon tehre unlmtiemd timelines
I mean wasn’t supposed to be mk8 fire and ice shalion monks sequel
I want this game to be made
Probably Some ideas transferred to MKX
So, there’s a mk channel that I can’t remember the name of the account. But, both of them love cyrex and sector and they go by the name of mustard and ketchup.. but idr the name… anyone in the community know it??
Wish we got Shaolin Monks 2 or Sub-Zero mythologies 2 or get a Scorpion's Revenge game
Armageddon could’ve been so much better, and I hated how we were limited to only like a couple combat styles and the universal “Kreate a Fatality” feature. All characters lost their signature and unique fatalities and styles.
Iunno, that Sonya design could be her stepping away from Special Forces,and maybe being a more interesting character? Just my take, not a great design, but the most interesting imo.
When i look back at the arcade endings of MK9 and the story plot of MKX, it wouldn't really be surprising that these elements were meant to be used if we had gotten MK8. I also even agree with The 4thSnake after his coverage on MKX story, that it most definitely would've worked as a good sequel to Armageddon. To me personally I dont even consider MK9 a true sequel to Armageddon, given that there were a lot contradictions in its story. Even the story elements from MK11 couldn't save it as it raised to many plot holes.
Still waiting on that MK9 remaster for PlayStation.
Mk8 is mk vs dc
unfortunately so
The reason for not having fatalities per character in Armageddon was due to data constraints. It was already reaching the limit to how big a PS2 game's file can get, they also had time constraints and had to rush the game. There's no multiple fighting styles per character for this reason too, they gave most of them to other characters so they didn't have to develop new ones from scratch.
I would love a Mortal Kombat arena game where you can have team matches and every man for themselves and Armageddon mode where you can have like 10 fighters in a big area at once let me cook 👨🍳 and just give us Mortal Kombat Shaolin monks as a unlockable
Someone, show this to 4thSnake. His rage would be beautiful
Also 4thSnake :" Daegon is bad guy"
12:16 hold up you think netherrealm needed Warner Brother. I think Warner Brother WB is ruining Mortal Kombat as we speak . Onslaught is not going to exist much longer so there goes one mobile game hopefully they don't mess around with MK mobile too much to the point where they destroy it because they want to add cameos to it which is a dumb idea nobody likes cameos and MK1 people figured out how to use it but no one is a huge fan of it. What I'm saying is wouldn't you rather play a Serena Kano Sonya Blade instead of having them pop up once in a while. So I think the heads of the studios are the ones that are basically ruining Mortal Kombat they just really need to go away. I'm a huge fan of Mortal Kombat mobile I love that game and to watch it slowly become something that it's not it's very sad. So this Cameo mode will either destroy MK mobile or it might be good I'm trying not to be cynical I'm trying to be positive but how many times has Mortal Kombat made a change and it happened to be a bad move a lot more than good
New timeline is so boring and messy. They took away decades of lore and world building, specially from the PS2 games like Deception, where you get to travel to different realms in Konquest. I miss Hanzo's revenant Scorpion, i miss Kuai Liang Sub, i miss insane bloodthirsty Mileena. Now it feels like we are just playing with very basic replacements and MK1 story is quite bad and forgettable, it doesn't evolve most of these new versions of the characters in any way.
I would like them to back to fighting styles like the 3D days
Does anyone know where i can get a mk9 key
We need those *MK vs DC skins* in MK1!
Sub-Zero is better
I don't consider Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe as Mortal Kombat 8.
I still consider Mortal Kombat (2011) as Mortal Kombat 8, chronologically following Mortal Kombat Armageddon, which is Mortal Kombat 7.
I've been saying that Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe basically fucked up the numerical order, when it was labeled as Mortal Kombat 8 + naming the newest game as Mortal Kombat 1 just causes a lot of confusion, I feel like.
To me, the true Mortal Kombat 1 is the original 1992 game.
Just for fun, I came up with this idea of renaming some of the game titles & even giving the 2nd & 3rd timelines each their own subtitles...
Original Timeline (1992 to 2006)
-Mortal Kombat (1992) is Mortal Kombat 1
-Mortal Kombat II
-Mortal Kombat 3, Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3, Mortal Kombat 3 Advance (Mortal Kombat Advance) & Mortal Kombat Trilogy
-Mortal Kombat 4 & Mortal Kombat 4 Gold (Mortal Kombat Gold)
-Mortal Kombat V or Mortal Kombat V: Deadly Alliance & Mortal Kombat V: Tournament Edition
-Mortal Kombat 6 or Mortal Kombat 6: Deception & Mortal Kombat 6: Unchained
-Mortal Kombat 7 or Mortal Kombat 7: Armageddon
Shao Kahn wins Armageddon & Raiden uses his shattered amulet to send the "He must win" message to himself in the past, resulting in what I'll call the Reborn Timeline.
Reborn Timeline (2011 to 2020)
-Mortal Kombat Reborn, which can also be Mortal Kombat Reborn 1, which is what I renamed Mortal Kombat (2011) or Mortal Kombat 9 as most people call it
-Mortal Kombat Reborn 2 (Mortal Kombat X) & Mortal Kombat Reborn 2XL (Mortal Kombat XL)
-Mortal Kombat Reborn 3 (Mortal Kombat 11), Mortal Kombat Reborn 3: Aftermath (Mortal Kombat 11: Aftermath) & Mortal Kombat Reborn 3 Ultimate (Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate)
Liu Kang defeats Kronika & now has control over the Hourglass & the Sands of Time, which he used to create what I'll call the New Era Timeline.
New Era Timeline (2023 to present)
-Mortal Kombat: New Era, which can later be called Mortal Kombat: New Era 1 (Mortal Kombat 1, 2023)
Armageddon was cool
9:25 very Yuffie from FFVII
Did they forget to finish Sonya's clothes design or...?
Kano has the knives the geee 😅
I am beyond happy mk8 didn't happen in that dark gritty form, mk is best when its silly, its not great when its taking itself too seriously, i think a serious mk espically at that time would have flopped and killed the franchise as a whole
I think it's good when serious with moments where players can take the game not so serious