This is really good to hear the raw sounds without effects so people can actually hear how simple most sounds are hopefully giving them a bit of inspiration to build sounds from scratch, just like when you see the actual ingredients in a recipe and realise it’s not as complex
This video shows how important good effects especially reverb is for the CS80 sounds we know from these classic songs. On the other hand it's interesting to hear the CS80 dry without reverb.
Thanks for your feedback - i am not trying to sell the CS80 - I am showing you what it is really like - however - you check any digital synth & take off the fx & eq!!
Excellent video! And well played! In regards to added effects, I understand that the patches may have originally been played with lots of reverb and delay but personally I like hearing them here in their dry form. Well done!
@AndyWhitmore Very nice. I recall in a review of the CS80 the actual sound isn't anything special but when you add the real time play controls with say a lexicon reverb unit or Roland space echo the synth truly comes into its own.
I deleted my old disgusting comment and i have to apologize. This video is actually really really good and shows how important FX's like a chorus, phaser, flanger or even a reverb or delay is. Your sound designing and playing is actually really good. Sorry again for my old comment.
Actually I think this video demonstrates that a truly great synthesizer can hold its own with no added effects. Yes, I'm used to hearing these riffs drenched in reverb, but they still sound rich and alive and organic coming directly from the CS-80s line out. Just try that with any VST or modern clone.
Yes - the raw power of this synth - out of the box - is amazing - not bad for 1977 - & the vst sound the same - but don't feel the same - the beauty of analog synths is they add a thickness to the mix that digital synths can not achieve
I like listening to synth sounds like this. Raw, without any FX or post processing. It really helps to see how every synth it's good on it's own. I mean, yes you can hear it's a CS-80 and it's great. But there are lots of synths that can replicate sounds made with different synthesizers, by using the right effect and mixing technique. Really helps keeping the GAS under control.
@AndyWhitmore yeah I saw that video too! Great playing, by the way. The CS-80 is still an iconic synth with good capabilities. And it really looks elegant to me. I'd give anything for a synth that looks anything like it. I would even love a midi controller with the same layout as a CS-80
@@mikelarrutiromero9430 yes its wierd - when I first purchased the cs80 in 2022 - it looked big bulky & obsolete - if it wasn't such a classic - I think very few would work today - but like old classic cars - we put the money into them to keep them going! - Thanks for watching!
This machine was truly expressive with the ribbon and After touch control, good to know they keep some feature of this synth on there FM one and later workstation, ribbon control need a comeback especialy with new MPE keyboard like Roli or Osmose and Hakken it make your synth expressive even in digital and modeling one, on analog it's pure bliss.
Absolutely! The ribbon and Aftertouch control really do add a unique dimension to sound creation. It’s exciting to see how these features evolve with modern technology!
Reverb is what air is for etheric oils and without sniffing on the bottle itself : this micro-drop scents needs to be spread out into space and combined with the air itself. Only in this way it gives literally oxygene to that scents which than can travels through the rooms. For me reverb is not an effect but something that is crusial embedded into and for every sound(design) itself as a sonic sculpture. Any sculpture needs a space to be put in and to reveal itself... This fact is also true for sonic sculptures. In reality, "dry sounds" don't exist, except in the world of sounddesign-synthesizer machines. For any performance it would be better to give it that... oxygene... Just a thought. But hey : don't get me wrong : very well reverse engineered re-sound-designed (on the level of the dry sound)! Awesome!
Vangelis also add an E mu Emulator 1 for the timpani and other keyboard thing with the CS 80 , but the man was realy a good organ keyboardist on the same level as Mike Pinder, he started is career as prog rock keyboardist with Demis Roussos in the band Aphrodite Child.
Also a bit more filtered with the low pass and resonant, but that true for most dry synth even a DX7 or Synclavier wich are digital can sound heavenly with a Lexicon or Eventide reverb some acoustic modeling one can sound even better...
@@kevinsturges6957 Pretty standard sounding without effects. I have a free CS80 vst, Arminator2 that can do these sounds all day long, the CS80 was highly overrated.
I only wish I had a chance to play one of these myself, when you weigh how apparently blissful it was to play in the late 70s when it first arrived, how many hit records it has been used on and the part in which its appeal is so endearing that Stevie Wonder was still playing one of his eight years after it was introduced in 1977 *(In Square Circle)* against how rare it has become since then and how cumbersome it was to maintain even when it was still being manufactured. Instead of envying those who have access to a CS-80, I suppose I should count my blessings that I just purchased a Hydrasynth Explorer, knowing the difference between analog and analog emulation.
I was thrilled that you gave some attention to 10CC’s “For z you and I”. If you do a sequel, please do J. geils band “Love Stinks” and “Come Back”, also Wings “With a Little Luck” and “London Town”.
Fellow CS-80 Owner here. Thank you for the video, that will be helpful to play those melodies myself on mine! Just one question, would you mind listing the preset that you selected for each section? Sometimes I cannot see which buttons are lit up.
I always wondered what sounds from the cs80 were used on duke by genesis thanks for the demo ! Although are you sure about behind the lines cos it sounds a lot brighter and bigger on the album and i read in an interviews that tony used it sparsely on the album and mostly on turn it on again and dukes travel ?
Hi - thanks for your feedback - I have done 2 videos on the CS50 Sound demo th-cam.com/video/94a7HQScEkQ/w-d-xo.html Sound Fx th-cam.com/video/kzPWclL6hj8/w-d-xo.html I hope this is what you are looking for
great video , it must have taken ages to do. I had a look at your other vids and could see you have a lot of synths . Is this one your favourate ? if you had to keep just one of them would it this one ? I had a cs60 and sold it 20 years ago , I wish I had'nt.
Yes - this video did take time - & the CS80 is one of my newest synths too!! Yes - I think it is my favourite - but a difficult choice as there are loads of other sounds that are unique to the other synths too!
@@AndyWhitmore i can imagine it took a lot of comparisons to get the sounds right , then theres no recall / save for each one. It is the type of synth you can fall in love with , have you opened the lid ? it looks like a telephone exchange and you can appreciate the skill in the wiring . I rem some time ago there were not so many cs80s left , i forget the figure , hope you enjoy it - the ring mod is just so amazing.
@@justinb9387 The great thing about doing this video is I have learnt a lot about how to program it - & the video serves as a patch sheet to recall the sounds - & yes - there are about 550 from the original 750 made left. I was lucky to get this & thought it was over priced when i bought it - but it has surpassed my expectations!! - Thanks
@@AndyWhitmore oh I didnt know there were only 750 made. I bet it surpasses expectations , it does have a sort of magic about it , and a deffo mystical mythology attached to it. You must get one of those lexicon lx480 reverbs that everyone uses - or the relab plugin prob is as good if you dont have it already ( that is if you want to do the whole bladerunner blues thing and lose countless hours in the process ) .
For such a sought after synth this video isn't selling it for me.Too heavy,lack of memory banks,too temperemental. I got a Korg Modwave recently that blows it out of the water.
I am 99,9 % sure about this for the main Blade Runner theme: Timpani: Emulator 1 ( factory preset) String : roland vp330 Lead : cs80 ( preset) All in a huge Lexicon 224 Reverb And u have the recipe!!! I have the Emulator 1 and roland vp330 but sadly not the cs80!!! Lucky you are!!!!!
I can see where you're coming from! Many modern synths offer great sounds at a lower price point, but the CS-80 has that unique character that’s hard to replicate.
Hello hello.. super addictive video.. just to comment on one detail.. the CS80 was not used by ELO on their LP TIME.. almost all the synth sounds on LP TIME (from 1981) are based on Oberheim, not on the Yamaha CS 80.. the intro Prologue, the main riff of Twilight etc etc, everything is Oberheim, not CS 80. the ELO LP in which almost all the synth sounds are from the CS80 is the 1979 LP Discovery.. if you listen to this LP, you will surely be able to hear and recreate any synth part or riff from that LP with a CS80 but not with the LP TIME, for TIME, ELO had already left the CS80 behind and had given itself over completely to Oberheim, Oberheim being, as I say, the almost main source of all the synth sounds on the LP time.. Of course it is certain that you can recreate parts of the Time LP with any other synth than the one the ELO originally used (Oberheim), even if it sounds similar but not the same, but the ELO did not use the CS 80 either in the recording of the Time LP or for the subsequent tour (Time Tour 1981/82) As I said, the ELO used the CS 80 intensively on the Discovery LP in 1979, and live, the year before, in the final part of the tour of the previous LP (Out Of The Blue in 1977), the Out Of The Blue Tour in 1978. Some CS80 can also be heard on the ELO tracks from the 1980 LP Xanadu I would like nothing more than to hear your recreations with CS 80 of ELO songs from the Discovery LP.. Greetings from Spain..
That's a lot to take in - I have saved your message to my job list so I can further research this - however - I did a fair amount of research before deciding that ELO had used the CS80 on Time - but I will check your feedback & come back with a follow up video - thanks for taking the time to educate me!
@@AndyWhitmore Hello, hello.. Thanks for your comment, my friend.. I understand that preparing and making this video involves a huge amount of work, and I congratulate you for all of it.. I just wanted to tell you that I'm a die hard fan of the ELO world and its relatives for 44 years.. Here in Spain, I'm the biggest collector of the group.. I'm a historian of the group and a great connoisseur of the entire ELO world.. I frequently write about ELO and its relatives on websites specializing in ELO.. In the ELO world I'm known as heavyheadrecords If you can research the 1979 Discovery LP, you'll discover that it was on that LP that the CS80 was the main synthesizer.. You can see video clips from the Discovery LP, (obviously in playback, not live) in which our beloved and recently deceased Richard Tandy appears with the CS80.. Here you can see Tandy with the CS80 in the video clip of the song Confusion from the LP Discovery: th-cam.com/video/1jUvhJ_Tgzw/w-d-xo.html In all the other music videos on the LP Discovery, you can also see Tandy with his CS80.. You can see them here: th-cam.com/video/GJuTIxwQw0k/w-d-xo.html Tandy used other synths since the beginning of the group in the early 70's, such as of course the legendary mini moog, various ARPs (2600, Odissey, Quadra, etc.), various other Moogs (polimoog, memory moog, etc..) and from the 80's, specifically from 1981 with the LP Time, is when Oberheim became the main synth both in the studio and live.. On the LP Time (from 1981) Oberheim is practically all the synths that sound on that recording. Tandy had already left aside ARPs, Moogs, Yamahas etc, to use more modern synths at that time such as Oberheim, Sequential Circuits, Korg, Roland etc.. although he still used some Moogs in small details and little else. As I say, if you have the chance, listen to the Discovery LP or look for videos of this Discovery, and there you will be able to hear the legendary CS80 in great detail.. Greetings from Spain
Hola. Por favor, necesito saber el título del minuto 02:05. Es interpretada por Jon...Ha sido una casualidad oír este tema, después de tantos años y queriéndolo buscar, sin recordar título ni intérprete.
this is - 02:05 Jon & Vangelis I Hear You Now Main Theme - thanks for watching - to hear it with fx as originally done - go to - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html - 09:46 Jon & Vangelis I Hear You Now Main Theme
@@AndyWhitmoreMuchísimas gracias. Desde 1983, no he vuelto a escuchar este tema. Tenía una pequeña melodía en mi memoria y no sabía quién la interpretaba. Ha sido una casualidad al ver su vídeo, interpretando ese pequeño fragmento, al que me ha hecho volver a recordar este tema. Lo bueno, nunca se olvida. He tenido suerte con usted. Muchísimas gracias de nuevo.
regardles of the missing DELAY and REVERB its still clear this synth has so much harmonics constantly shifting around and subtly moving and phasing that it just feels alive and organic even when you just sustain a single note - something that cannot be emulated on any soft synth... certainly not by just dialing the same values on the controls... maybe one day with very advanced algos...something like u-He DIVA 3000 running on 3000 Nvidia CUDA cores :)) but as of 01/2025 this is impossible... dialing same values on the controls in any CS-80- soft synth emulation (Arturia CS-80V, Cherry Audio GX-80, Xils EIGHTY, Memorymoon ME80, Softube Model 77) will not give you this level of microdetail... yes the sounds are simple in their construction, but infintely alive and sweet in their sonic microdetail coming from the unstable and imperfect analog hardware components of 1970's... listen for yourself: th-cam.com/users/shortsmPq_gXiVtFA th-cam.com/users/shortsJL00ZNDI-JE thank you Andy for doing these comparison between emus and the real thing and the dry sound... they are very important because this synth is dissapearing...
Well Sorrry!! no offense - but I'd never heard of SAGA - having said that - I have done some research & can see that ames Gerrard Gilmour is a talented player & well worth a tribute! Look out for Saga in my next CS80 video - thanks for watching!
Also stevie wonder plays on his albums but not on songs in the keys of life he had gx1 dream machine large polyphonic synthesizer with three keys like a organ then he had cs80 late 70s through journey secrets of plants and 1980s hotter than July Jermaine jackson let's get serious
Funny you should say that but you are right. I remember back in the late 70s Stevie Wonder used a synth that was "unavailable" to us mere mortals - which I later found out to be the legendary Yamaha GX1! Well spotted - & yes - Wonder used the CS80 for about 8 years after purchasing it shortly after completing "Songs in the Key of Life"
You have a beast and u can't even try to explore the amazing possibilities that it offers. You replay the hooks of The Genius but with the same or more or less similar wave and sound. Sorry. Best luck next time.
@@jumpingman8160 So the talent here is the pocket size, aham...If I had the chance, please don't cry, I would enjoy taking from that treasure MANY FAR BETTER SOUNDSCAPES. Even you could do it.
Andy - Great stuff but no Eddie Jobson when talking about the CS-80? That’s like taking about the GX-1 without Keith Emerson. To quote one of my favorite movies, “inconceivable”!
Proof of why reverb is every synth's best friend.
Yes - I did a video of the cs80 with fx - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
everything in moderation
This is really good to hear the raw sounds without effects so people can actually hear how simple most sounds are hopefully giving them a bit of inspiration to build sounds from scratch, just like when you see the actual ingredients in a recipe and realise it’s not as complex
I'm glad you enjoyed the raw sounds! It really does show how simple and beautiful sound creation can be. Keep experimenting and building from scratch!
Vintage...Beautiful
lovely synth - pleasure to play
This video shows how important good effects especially reverb is for the CS80 sounds we know from these classic songs. On the other hand it's interesting to hear the CS80 dry without reverb.
Thanks for your feedback - i am not trying to sell the CS80 - I am showing you what it is really like - however - you check any digital synth & take off the fx & eq!!
I perhaps say that Vangelis made lush deep reverb a key part of his sound for the CS80.
@@stevenmann9769 here the sounds with fx - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
That's why I hate the Juno 106. If you turn the chorus off it sucks.
@@mitchelstephen7536 yes - any synth with only 1 bank of oscillators is really going to struggle!
The CS-80 is not desired for its raw tones, that's for sure. Brave man for doing this demo. 😎
I know people like to hear how the synth sounds dry - there is a video with FX. here - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
Excellent video! And well played! In regards to added effects, I understand that the patches may have originally been played with lots of reverb and delay but personally I like hearing them here in their dry form. Well done!
Hi - I have added a link in the video to the CS80 famous sounds with fx
I didn't know about so many sounds/famous songs coming from CS-80. Thank you.
I'm glad you found it informative! The CS-80 has such a rich history in music production. I wanted to show as many famous riffs as possible!
Most of the riffs are made with other synths.
Yes that's cool
I'm glad you think so! What part did you like the most?
The CS80 needs copious amounts of delay and reverb to make it come alive.
Absolutely - please check this video for more famous riffs with all the original FX on -
th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
@AndyWhitmore Very nice. I recall in a review of the CS80 the actual sound isn't anything special but when you add the real time play controls with say a lexicon reverb unit or Roland space echo the synth truly comes into its own.
As do a lot of synths, like guitars need amp and effects pedals.
@@Fallingoverbackwards agreed - here it is with fx - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=h4i6ZLs4vl66yBKh
@@mkdoddart yes - the special thing about the cs80 is everything is at your finger tips - the most enjoyable synth to play!
Love it! CS80 - my dream-synth...
Ah, the CS80! The synth of dreams! Just remember, if you ever find one at a garage sale, don't forget to bring a truck!
glad to have my hydrasynth. It does it very well too.
@@mabo1870 hydrasynth is a gr8 synth!
Fantastic video! The sounds of the CS80 are so vivid, very well recorded. Looking forward to watch your next videos.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the CS80 sounds. Stay tuned for more exciting videos coming your way!
I deleted my old disgusting comment and i have to apologize. This video is actually really really good and shows how important FX's like a chorus, phaser, flanger or even a reverb or delay is.
Your sound designing and playing is actually really good. Sorry again for my old comment.
Apology accepted - thank you
Actually I think this video demonstrates that a truly great synthesizer can hold its own with no added effects. Yes, I'm used to hearing these riffs drenched in reverb, but they still sound rich and alive and organic coming directly from the CS-80s line out. Just try that with any VST or modern clone.
Yes - the raw power of this synth - out of the box - is amazing - not bad for 1977 - & the vst sound the same - but don't feel the same - the beauty of analog synths is they add a thickness to the mix that digital synths can not achieve
I love the raw dry sound of the CS 80 because i ican mport the audiio in my DAW and play it with awesome reverbs 👍
Thank you 🙏😉
excellent - & the CS80 really benefits from todays awesome digital reverbs
I like listening to synth sounds like this. Raw, without any FX or post processing. It really helps to see how every synth it's good on it's own. I mean, yes you can hear it's a CS-80 and it's great. But there are lots of synths that can replicate sounds made with different synthesizers, by using the right effect and mixing technique. Really helps keeping the GAS under control.
I appreciate this feedback - I have released the sister video with FX but listening to it raw really shows the real sound of the CS80
@AndyWhitmore yeah I saw that video too! Great playing, by the way. The CS-80 is still an iconic synth with good capabilities. And it really looks elegant to me. I'd give anything for a synth that looks anything like it. I would even love a midi controller with the same layout as a CS-80
@@mikelarrutiromero9430 yes its wierd - when I first purchased the cs80 in 2022 - it looked big bulky & obsolete - if it wasn't such a classic - I think very few would work today - but like old classic cars - we put the money into them to keep them going! - Thanks for watching!
This machine was truly expressive with the ribbon and After touch control, good to know they keep some feature of this synth on there FM one and later workstation, ribbon control need a comeback especialy with new MPE keyboard like Roli or Osmose and Hakken it make your synth expressive even in digital and modeling one, on analog it's pure bliss.
Absolutely! The ribbon and Aftertouch control really do add a unique dimension to sound creation. It’s exciting to see how these features evolve with modern technology!
Vangelis 🥰
Thanks!!
this video single-handedly brought down the market value of this synth by about 2,000 bucks
was it that bad?
It is such a unique sound. Nothing but the original can do it with my heart's content.😊
Yes - so sweet & vulnerable!! Lovely!
I hear you now !!
at last!! lol - Thanks for watching!👍😎
Lovely stuff. Probably my favourite synth, up against some stiff competition!
I'm glad to hear you love it! This Synth can really bring out some amazing sounds!
Reverb is what air is for etheric oils and without sniffing on the bottle itself : this micro-drop scents needs to be spread out into space and combined with the air itself. Only in this way it gives literally oxygene to that scents which than can travels through the rooms. For me reverb is not an effect but something that is crusial embedded into and for every sound(design) itself as a sonic sculpture. Any sculpture needs a space to be put in and to reveal itself... This fact is also true for sonic sculptures. In reality, "dry sounds" don't exist, except in the world of sounddesign-synthesizer machines. For any performance it would be better to give it that... oxygene... Just a thought. But hey : don't get me wrong : very well reverse engineered re-sound-designed (on the level of the dry sound)! Awesome!
Here is the video with reverb - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
@@AndyWhitmore Thank you very much.
Vangelis also add an E mu Emulator 1 for the timpani and other keyboard thing with the CS 80 , but the man was realy a good organ keyboardist on the same level as Mike Pinder, he started is career as prog rock keyboardist with Demis Roussos in the band Aphrodite Child.
Vangelis is a genius & ground breaker!
Wow! So awesome. Can you share any backstory on how/where you acquired the Cs80? Thanks!
I will upload a video in the next 2 weeks!! - Thanks for the idea!!
@@AndyWhitmore awesome 👏 I’ll keep my eyes peeled for that!
@@martinlopez2955 thanks
What a great synth, but I know I will never put my hands on one of them, too expensive for me. You are lucky to have one of these :) cool video.
Thanks - I am releasing a video soon showing how I managed to obtain this beast!
@@AndyWhitmore great!
@@Donetur Thanks for watching
@@AndyWhitmore no problem mate, thank you for showing this synth :)
For the bladerunner sounds it needs to be swamped in reverb, that's how Vangelis produced it, without reverb and delay the sounds don't match up.
I have now added a link in the video to the Vangelis with fx on - matched to the original! th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
Also a bit more filtered with the low pass and resonant, but that true for most dry synth even a DX7 or Synclavier wich are digital can sound heavenly with a Lexicon or Eventide reverb some acoustic modeling one can sound even better...
@@Meteotrance Agreed
That’s the point. He’s showing what the instruments sounds like dry.
@@kevinsturges6957 Pretty standard sounding without effects. I have a free CS80 vst, Arminator2 that can do these sounds all day long, the CS80 was highly overrated.
I only wish I had a chance to play one of these myself, when you weigh how apparently blissful it was to play in the late 70s when it first arrived, how many hit records it has been used on and the part in which its appeal is so endearing that Stevie Wonder was still playing one of his eight years after it was introduced in 1977 *(In Square Circle)* against how rare it has become since then and how cumbersome it was to maintain even when it was still being manufactured. Instead of envying those who have access to a CS-80, I suppose I should count my blessings that I just purchased a Hydrasynth Explorer, knowing the difference between analog and analog emulation.
I am going to purchase a Hydrasynth Explorer & do a comparison video with the CS80
I definitely look forward to that,@@AndyWhitmore.
@@Shred_The_Weapon I wont keep you waiting long!!
Cheers, Andy!
@@Shred_The_Weapon all good
Tease! - Spiral cover for Jon and Vangelis. So much great CS-80 work on the Spiral album. My joint favourite Vangelis album with Albedo 0.39.
I have noted your comment & will do further research for the follow up video
It would be great if the CS-80 had the ensemble effect of the SK-series and Electones.
yes - they only had chorus when this was built - digital fx weren't invented yet!
Any chance you will be doing a Yamaha cs80 vs Arturia cs80 or cherry audio cs80? Btw, you have an amazing synth collection!
Yes - this video is coming soon!!!
Good Movie, Thanks.
Thanks!!!
a little bit of reverb and delay would have been a godsend -- after all, no-one ever recorded a CS80 without using plenty of external fx
th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
with fx
Pleased to hear some attention given the Howell era Who on this classic synth!
Peter Howell is an excellent programmer & knew the CS80 well
Nice to see it being used in a different way. I think the Brookside theme tune was based on I Hear You Now
It's interesting to see how different interpretations can bring new life to familiar concepts! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@@AndyWhitmore It's not just a synth that was used on Blade Runner and needs fx to sound good. It sounds good with no fx.
@@jaggass here it is with fx - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
@@AndyWhitmore Also remembered Elton John used it on the The Fox album. Fanfare and Nobody Wins are good examples
@@jaggass noted for the next video! Thanks
Error, Blade Runner String pad. Vangelis played Roland Vocoder Plus VP330.
Already noted thanks!!
D’oh, missed the comp! That included an around-the-world first class ticket, too, right?! #drats
of course!!!
Oh thank you for demonstrating a rather average sounding analog synth that sells for $50,000. Now we all know what we're not missing :)
I appreciate your feedback! It's always interesting to explore the various offerings in the synth world, even if they don't all hit the mark.
I was thrilled that you gave some attention to 10CC’s “For z you and I”. If you do a sequel, please do J. geils band “Love Stinks” and “Come Back”, also Wings “With a Little Luck” and “London Town”.
Your comments have been noted the follow up video! - Thanks
Will stick the Arturia CS80
I am going to do a comparison with the Arturia CS80 soon - I know you have a gem there
Fellow CS-80 Owner here. Thank you for the video, that will be helpful to play those melodies myself on mine! Just one question, would you mind listing the preset that you selected for each section? Sometimes I cannot see which buttons are lit up.
Hi - I have made a note & will sort for you!
I always wondered what sounds from the cs80 were used on duke by genesis thanks for the demo ! Although are you sure about behind the lines cos it sounds a lot brighter and bigger on the album and i read in an interviews that tony used it sparsely on the album and mostly on turn it on again and dukes travel ?
Thanks for feedback - I am not 100% sure - & Tony know more than any one!!
Do you have any information on the CS-50? I have only seen one. It was owned by a studio in Europe; as I recall, the studio was in the Netherlands.
Hi - thanks for your feedback - I have done 2 videos on the CS50
Sound demo
th-cam.com/video/94a7HQScEkQ/w-d-xo.html
Sound Fx
th-cam.com/video/kzPWclL6hj8/w-d-xo.html
I hope this is what you are looking for
great video , it must have taken ages to do. I had a look at your other vids and could see you have a lot of synths . Is this one your favourate ? if you had to keep just one of them would it this one ? I had a cs60 and sold it 20 years ago , I wish I had'nt.
Yes - this video did take time - & the CS80 is one of my newest synths too!! Yes - I think it is my favourite - but a difficult choice as there are loads of other sounds that are unique to the other synths too!
@@AndyWhitmore i can imagine it took a lot of comparisons to get the sounds right , then theres no recall / save for each one. It is the type of synth you can fall in love with , have you opened the lid ? it looks like a telephone exchange and you can appreciate the skill in the wiring . I rem some time ago there were not so many cs80s left , i forget the figure , hope you enjoy it - the ring mod is just so amazing.
@@justinb9387 The great thing about doing this video is I have learnt a lot about how to program it - & the video serves as a patch sheet to recall the sounds - & yes - there are about 550 from the original 750 made left. I was lucky to get this & thought it was over priced when i bought it - but it has surpassed my expectations!! - Thanks
@@AndyWhitmore oh I didnt know there were only 750 made. I bet it surpasses expectations , it does have a sort of magic about it , and a deffo mystical mythology attached to it. You must get one of those lexicon lx480 reverbs that everyone uses - or the relab plugin prob is as good if you dont have it already ( that is if you want to do the whole bladerunner blues thing and lose countless hours in the process ) .
@@justinb9387 good comment - I have copied to add the Lexicon - here is the video with fx - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
I gotta ask, since its confirmed Bruce springsteen used a cs 80, can anyone confirm if it was one of 2 synths heard layered in "Glory Days"?
I have copied your message to my job list - watch this channel for an update soon - thanks
Was the uk tv brookside theme created on this synth?
brookside theme was created on a piano by Steve Wright and Dave Roylance - THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT THE CS80 WAS USED BUT THIS DOESN'T RULE IT OUT!
@AndyWhitmore interesting. thanks.
For such a sought after synth this video isn't selling it for me.Too heavy,lack of memory banks,too temperemental. I got a Korg Modwave recently that blows it out of the water.
OK - well b4 you write it off - check this video - the same synth with fx - which TBH is on all new synths - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
This Blade Runner part at the beginning from the main theme isn t coming from the VP330 string instead ?!?!?!?! !!!!!
Tghank you for the update - as an owner of the VP330 - you have given me an idea for a new video -
I am 99,9 % sure about this for the main Blade Runner theme:
Timpani: Emulator 1 ( factory preset)
String : roland vp330
Lead : cs80 ( preset)
All in a huge Lexicon 224 Reverb
And u have the recipe!!!
I have the Emulator 1 and roland vp330 but sadly not the cs80!!!
Lucky you are!!!!!
And probably a few notes from a Rhides mk1
@@philippezsiga1125 I'm just showing the CS80 in this video
@@philippezsiga1125 Probably so - I will have to have a re-listen
Matt Bianco's 'Whos Sıde Are You On' must have some CS80 sounds if I remember corectly. Any info on that?
I have noted your comment & will do the research! - thanks for teh feedback
Pretty simple sounds pretty easy to get from the much cheaper synths.
I can see where you're coming from! Many modern synths offer great sounds at a lower price point, but the CS-80 has that unique character that’s hard to replicate.
Italian and German string machines created the similar sounds.
@@marguskiis7711 I agree
Hello hello..
super addictive video..
just to comment on one detail..
the CS80 was not used by ELO on their LP TIME..
almost all the synth sounds on LP TIME (from 1981) are based on Oberheim, not on the Yamaha CS 80..
the intro Prologue, the main riff of Twilight etc etc, everything is Oberheim, not CS 80.
the ELO LP in which almost all the synth sounds are from the CS80 is the 1979 LP Discovery..
if you listen to this LP, you will surely be able to hear and recreate any synth part or riff from that LP with a CS80
but not with the LP TIME,
for TIME, ELO had already left the CS80 behind and had given itself over completely to Oberheim, Oberheim being, as I say, the almost main source of all the synth sounds on the LP time..
Of course it is certain that you can recreate parts of the Time LP with any other synth than the one the ELO originally used (Oberheim), even if it sounds similar but not the same, but the ELO did not use the CS 80 either in the recording of the Time LP or for the subsequent tour (Time Tour 1981/82)
As I said, the ELO used the CS 80 intensively on the Discovery LP in 1979, and live, the year before, in the final part of the tour of the previous LP (Out Of The Blue in 1977), the Out Of The Blue Tour in 1978.
Some CS80 can also be heard on the ELO tracks from the 1980 LP Xanadu
I would like nothing more than to hear your recreations with CS 80 of ELO songs from the Discovery LP..
Greetings from Spain..
That's a lot to take in - I have saved your message to my job list so I can further research this - however - I did a fair amount of research before deciding that ELO had used the CS80 on Time - but I will check your feedback & come back with a follow up video - thanks for taking the time to educate me!
@@AndyWhitmore
Hello, hello..
Thanks for your comment, my friend..
I understand that preparing and making this video involves a huge amount of work, and I congratulate you for all of it..
I just wanted to tell you that I'm a die hard fan of the ELO world and its relatives for 44 years..
Here in Spain, I'm the biggest collector of the group..
I'm a historian of the group and a great connoisseur of the entire ELO world..
I frequently write about ELO and its relatives on websites specializing in ELO..
In the ELO world I'm known as heavyheadrecords
If you can research the 1979 Discovery LP, you'll discover that it was on that LP that the CS80 was the main synthesizer..
You can see video clips from the Discovery LP, (obviously in playback, not live) in which our beloved and recently deceased Richard Tandy appears with the CS80..
Here you can see Tandy with the CS80 in the video clip of the song Confusion from the LP Discovery:
th-cam.com/video/1jUvhJ_Tgzw/w-d-xo.html
In all the other music videos on the LP Discovery, you can also see Tandy with his CS80..
You can see them here: th-cam.com/video/GJuTIxwQw0k/w-d-xo.html
Tandy used other synths since the beginning of the group in the early 70's, such as of course the legendary mini moog, various ARPs (2600, Odissey, Quadra, etc.), various other Moogs (polimoog, memory moog, etc..) and from the 80's, specifically from 1981 with the LP Time, is when Oberheim became the main synth both in the studio and live..
On the LP Time (from 1981) Oberheim is practically all the synths that sound on that recording.
Tandy had already left aside ARPs, Moogs, Yamahas etc, to use more modern synths at that time such as Oberheim, Sequential Circuits, Korg, Roland etc..
although he still used some Moogs in small details and little else.
As I say, if you have the chance, listen to the Discovery LP or look for videos of this Discovery, and there you will be able to hear the legendary CS80 in great detail..
Greetings from Spain
@@heavyheadrecords Thanks for all your knowledge - I will use your research to come back with another cs80 famous sounds video - THANK YOU!
@@AndyWhitmore 👍
Hola. Por favor, necesito saber el título del minuto 02:05. Es interpretada por Jon...Ha sido una casualidad oír este tema, después de tantos años y queriéndolo buscar, sin recordar título ni intérprete.
this is - 02:05 Jon & Vangelis I Hear You Now Main Theme - thanks for watching - to hear it with fx as originally done - go to - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html - 09:46 Jon & Vangelis I Hear You Now Main Theme
@@AndyWhitmoreMuchísimas gracias. Desde 1983, no he vuelto a escuchar este tema. Tenía una pequeña melodía en mi memoria y no sabía quién la interpretaba. Ha sido una casualidad al ver su vídeo, interpretando ese pequeño fragmento, al que me ha hecho volver a recordar este tema. Lo bueno, nunca se olvida. He tenido suerte con usted. Muchísimas gracias de nuevo.
@@malcob2432 Glad to help - thanks for watching!
regardles of the missing DELAY and REVERB its still clear this synth has so much harmonics constantly shifting around and subtly moving and phasing that it just feels alive and organic even when you just sustain a single note - something that cannot be emulated on any soft synth... certainly not by just dialing the same values on the controls... maybe one day with very advanced algos...something like u-He DIVA 3000 running on 3000 Nvidia CUDA cores :)) but as of 01/2025 this is impossible... dialing same values on the controls in any CS-80- soft synth emulation (Arturia CS-80V, Cherry Audio GX-80, Xils EIGHTY, Memorymoon ME80, Softube Model 77) will not give you this level of microdetail... yes the sounds are simple in their construction, but infintely alive and sweet in their sonic microdetail coming from the unstable and imperfect analog hardware components of 1970's...
listen for yourself:
th-cam.com/users/shortsmPq_gXiVtFA
th-cam.com/users/shortsJL00ZNDI-JE
thank you Andy for doing these comparison between emus and the real thing and the dry sound... they are very important because this synth is dissapearing...
thanks for that! & good links too
CS-80 no SAGA?? Missed opportunity. About 10 Vangelis no SAGA
Well Sorrry!! no offense - but I'd never heard of SAGA - having said that - I have done some research & can see that ames Gerrard Gilmour is a talented player & well worth a tribute! Look out for Saga in my next CS80 video - thanks for watching!
@@AndyWhitmore Just kidding. Hard to do that on text. Love that cs80.
I discovered the cs-80 with Saga. Listen to “Dont be Late” by Saga
@@pedrosura what an awesome band - adding to my playlist
Also stevie wonder plays on his albums but not on songs in the keys of life he had gx1 dream machine large polyphonic synthesizer with three keys like a organ then he had cs80 late 70s through journey secrets of plants and 1980s hotter than July Jermaine jackson let's get serious
Funny you should say that but you are right. I remember back in the late 70s Stevie Wonder used a synth that was "unavailable" to us mere mortals - which I later found out to be the legendary Yamaha GX1! Well spotted - & yes - Wonder used the CS80 for about 8 years after purchasing it shortly after completing "Songs in the Key of Life"
@@AndyWhitmore right
You have a beast and u can't even try to explore the amazing possibilities that it offers. You replay the hooks of The Genius but with the same or more or less similar wave and sound. Sorry. Best luck next time.
I have done several videos on the CS80 exploring it - please check the rest of my channel - thanks for watching
@@AndyWhitmore Maybe you could try adding reverb, echo,delays...
@@winterland2011 here are the same licks with FX - please check - th-cam.com/video/uhGZS1OO0uk/w-d-xo.html
Get a CS80 and show us how it's done
@@jumpingman8160 So the talent here is the pocket size, aham...If I had the chance, please don't cry, I would enjoy taking from that treasure MANY FAR BETTER SOUNDSCAPES. Even you could do it.
No.
I appreciate your feedback! If there's something specific you'd like to share, I'm all ears!
Andy - Great stuff but no Eddie Jobson when talking about the CS-80?
That’s like taking about the GX-1 without Keith Emerson. To quote one of my favorite movies, “inconceivable”!
good point - Jobson is a legend - but so much to remember!