@@ZedNinetySix_ it was multiple seconds faster than GTEs in practice and qualifying. Highest race lap time was slower only because it was under repair when it was time to step it up in the remaining few hours. However, it was clearly faster than all GTEs in that race.
@@v8ramair145there’s is a BOP in GTE or GT3 you cannot compare a car with a BOP and an unrestricted car. In this case compare it to the AMG GT3 unrestricted in bathrust which was 4 sec quicker than a bop gt3 so would be easily 8sec quicker on Le Mans than the current gt3lm
As a nascar fan while this would be a hilarious exhibition race there’s no way it’d happen lol. However seeing that thing hustle round the corners like that was crazy
Yeah but its going to be utter chaos when you realize how short tempered drivers are in nascar and unhinged they are compared to other motorsports @@UnrelatedNonsense
@@david9912gt3rs That specific package has virtually no rear diffuser, a 2 inch rear spoiler and nothing else on the car to make downforce. I reckon the 918 has more downforce than this does
Hate to ask for content because it comes across as childish, but I've always been curious about a Gen 7 nascar's performance if the engine was unrestricted. I know there are mods out there but I can't find any videos with them. I think they're probably on AC tho.
Don’t worry, feel free to ask any kind of idea, we love to answer your questions! We’ve already done that: How Fast Is An UNRESTRICTED NASCAR Cup Car? th-cam.com/video/7kU8VRzh4hU/w-d-xo.html
@@AlanFormula12022 I unfortunately couldn't watch, i guess it's not that unfortunate, though 😅. My dad let me know there wasn't enough chaos going on, and it lacked excitement
What I would love to see would be the early 80's Winston Cup cars, back when they focused on ovals and only ran two road courses as an afterthought. They still used bias-ply tires too, so they slid around A LOT more than on today's radials. Seeing someone manhandle one of those beasts around would definitely be entertaining.
They aren't 4-speed cars anymore, nor are they H-pattern. They're essentially heavier, slower V8 Supercars at this point, and they really should've gone with a modified TA1 car instead of the Gen 7 we have now.
2014 was the last pure year IMO. 2021 was the last year of Gen 6 with the 4 speed. They're now sequential 5 speeds with much more mechanical grip, lesser downforce (compared to Gen 6 peak) and very restricted low hp, which to me is disappointing.
Despite the new NASCARs being built with road course racing in mind I feel like the older gen cars still produced better racing on road courses because the cars were (by nature) garbage at those tracks.
Was this done by just cranking the difficulty on an ai on iracing? If so the result is guna be wrong, when making the ai more difficult in iracing after a point they just give the car more grip
Ever since iracing introduced the nextgen cup car into the game, I've been curious about this too. Its a shame they dont have the proper aero packages though, I'm confident that the extra couple lbs of downforce the road course aero package generates irl could have shaved at least 3 seconds or so off that lap time, especially thru the second half of the ring.
I have 3 questions. 1- If you are doing this run yourself instead of AI doing it, how many times did you have to run it before you got this final good run. 2- How much better or worse would the garage 56 car do in comparison to the Cup car you just ran? 3- Also curious to how the fastest most powerful generation of NASCAR race car would do in comparison between the 3?
This might be a trainwreck but I'd be interested to see how a modern Indycar in oval trim would stand up to this (possibly with the gear ratios from the road course trim so it's not trundling around in 2nd for most of the lap).
It's too bad iracing doesn't have G56. Only AC, I believe - which would then mean for an apples to apples comparison, I'd love to see AC do a NextGen car, 2014 Cup car and G56 here.
This generation of Cup car is slow. 2-4 seconds per minute slower than the prior generation, especially 2014. In my opinion, NASCAR no longer caters to having fast cars, their priorities are restrictions for compeitiveness.
@@v8ramair145 I think you're right, but when the cars go faster, they hit the walls faster. There's only so much impact energy the SAFER barriers can absorb, and even with the best design, the human body can only take so much. NASCAR started restricting speeds at Daytona and Talladega back in the 80's (which has created its own monster of sorts), so it's really nothing new.
The thing about going faster down the straight is you go slower through the corners and the chance of literally roasting the rear tires off the corner. No days the rarely have to brake on 1.5 mile and above. Give me 900hp thats what made a cup car a cup car.
I wondered why they didn't put the 919 Evo lap time, now I do. It's in order to not make NASCAR look too ridiculous. I mean even a road car does better (Mercedes AMG one).
Dude it's not comparable. The NASCAR did well for what it is. I could write all the reasons why but I hope you're smart enough to understand when you think about it.
Would you like to see a NASCAR race at the Nordschleife?
Yes, especially with the Garage 56 cars!
Yes you should
Yes, absolutely.
No, coming from a NASCAR fan
yes 100% i wish nascar did exhibition races overseas a few times like they did back in the late 90s and early 2000s
Now do this but with the Garage 56 Camaro ZL1
Considering G56 was supposed to be 8 to 10 sec per lap faster on a 2 minute track, my guess is it'll easily run a sub 6:30
That G56 camaro was running almost GTE pace against GT3's
@@ZedNinetySix_ it was multiple seconds faster than GTEs in practice and qualifying. Highest race lap time was slower only because it was under repair when it was time to step it up in the remaining few hours. However, it was clearly faster than all GTEs in that race.
@@v8ramair145there’s is a BOP in GTE or GT3 you cannot compare a car with a BOP and an unrestricted car. In this case compare it to the AMG GT3 unrestricted in bathrust which was 4 sec quicker than a bop gt3 so would be easily 8sec quicker on Le Mans than the current gt3lm
@@ZedNinetySix_it had -225kg, +aero, +cooling, very modified engine compared to a cup car, and 130 more horsepower than a gte
As a nascar fan while this would be a hilarious exhibition race there’s no way it’d happen lol. However seeing that thing hustle round the corners like that was crazy
Road course stock cars are actually pretty decent getting around a track. They are just a lot heavier than other race cars
Yeah but its going to be utter chaos when you realize how short tempered drivers are in nascar and unhinged they are compared to other motorsports @@UnrelatedNonsense
@@ProxiProtogenhahahaha
After watching the Charlotte race, I can't see NASCAR cars without neon pink window nets.
The fact that the Rimac Nevera and the 918 Spyder are theoretically slower than/as fast as a Cup car around the Ring.
Slick tyres make the difference, it's not that surprising
It's not that impressive. A cup car is light and still has better downforce to go through the corners. Nevera and the 918 only win in straight speed!
@@david9912gt3rs A cup car weights 3000 pounds.
@@lordracer7743 it's still lighter than those mentioned above.
@@david9912gt3rs That specific package has virtually no rear diffuser, a 2 inch rear spoiler and nothing else on the car to make downforce. I reckon the 918 has more downforce than this does
Buddy beat Jimmy Broadbent to the video
I think he did one with the Gen 6 way back when.
Hate to ask for content because it comes across as childish, but I've always been curious about a Gen 7 nascar's performance if the engine was unrestricted. I know there are mods out there but I can't find any videos with them. I think they're probably on AC tho.
Don’t worry, feel free to ask any kind of idea, we love to answer your questions! We’ve already done that: How Fast Is An UNRESTRICTED NASCAR Cup Car?
th-cam.com/video/7kU8VRzh4hU/w-d-xo.html
Bathurst but with Nascars since Bathurst was last weekend
The 2024 BATHURST 1000 race last Sunday was the WORST EVER race in Bathurst 1000 history due to ABSOLUTE NO OVERTAKES WHATSOEVER. Throughout 161 LAPS!
@@AlanFormula12022Still more entertaining than an average F1 race in 2023.
@@AlanFormula12022 I unfortunately couldn't watch, i guess it's not that unfortunate, though 😅. My dad let me know there wasn't enough chaos going on, and it lacked excitement
@@AlanFormula12022Petit Le Mans was also this past weekend, that was a great race
@@AlanFormula12022cry more
There'd be too much freedom at the Nordschleife.
What I would love to see would be the early 80's Winston Cup cars, back when they focused on ovals and only ran two road courses as an afterthought. They still used bias-ply tires too, so they slid around A LOT more than on today's radials. Seeing someone manhandle one of those beasts around would definitely be entertaining.
A lot of broken tie rods and axles. That's what I imagine a NASCAR race at this track looking like.
every time a Nascar completes a lap, a Bald Eagle is born
Don't let me lie, a NASCAR is one of the purest cars that modern motorsport has
(plus what good weather for a 4-speed car )
They aren't 4-speed cars anymore, nor are they H-pattern. They're essentially heavier, slower V8 Supercars at this point, and they really should've gone with a modified TA1 car instead of the Gen 7 we have now.
2014 was the last pure year IMO. 2021 was the last year of Gen 6 with the 4 speed. They're now sequential 5 speeds with much more mechanical grip, lesser downforce (compared to Gen 6 peak) and very restricted low hp, which to me is disappointing.
One can dream…
Despite the new NASCARs being built with road course racing in mind I feel like the older gen cars still produced better racing on road courses because the cars were (by nature) garbage at those tracks.
«NASCAR on road courses produced better racing when the cars werent made for road courses»
Was this done by just cranking the difficulty on an ai on iracing? If so the result is guna be wrong, when making the ai more difficult in iracing after a point they just give the car more grip
Someone please give nascar a call and tell them to come here 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
The jump is crazy. 😂
Ever since iracing introduced the nextgen cup car into the game, I've been curious about this too. Its a shame they dont have the proper aero packages though, I'm confident that the extra couple lbs of downforce the road course aero package generates irl could have shaved at least 3 seconds or so off that lap time, especially thru the second half of the ring.
I have 3 questions. 1- If you are doing this run yourself instead of AI doing it, how many times did you have to run it before you got this final good run. 2- How much better or worse would the garage 56 car do in comparison to the Cup car you just ran? 3- Also curious to how the fastest most powerful generation of NASCAR race car would do in comparison between the 3?
Here after jimmer did the same ideo on mount panorama
Not bad!
Can you do Turismo carretera flat out at Nurburgring track it will would be amazing as hell.
Is it using the right type of package of this?
Yes
This might be a trainwreck but I'd be interested to see how a modern Indycar in oval trim would stand up to this (possibly with the gear ratios from the road course trim so it's not trundling around in 2nd for most of the lap).
A garage 56 should be in the 24 hour race.
Same cars on the VLN layout.
2:08 WOOH
Very surprising that R35GTR can lap the Nordschleife faster than GEN 7 NASCAR CUP car. R35GTR and SLR McLaren 2009 can do 6:59.8 barrier.
NASCARs aren't made for twisties.
How is 6:59.8 faster than 6:58.69?
@@rdspam His math ain't mathing
These cars can’t even limp back to the pits when they get a flat. They’d absolutely die at the Nordschleife
Oh man iracing again!
Did you know?! There are several right turns on the NS
Hello, iRacing week 13? :D yeah, can be fast if you tweak the setup
500 Miles when????
Wonder how much time could be trimmed if they had the 900+HP they used to have.
5-8 sec I would say
Do it with a turismo carretera
What kind of a NASCAR is that?? 😅😅
Ford Mustang.
Ford’s new car for this season
Garage 56 Camaro VS LMP2? Nordschleife or le mans
WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now it's g56 camaro turn
It's too bad iracing doesn't have G56. Only AC, I believe - which would then mean for an apples to apples comparison, I'd love to see AC do a NextGen car, 2014 Cup car and G56 here.
Hey nice AI set!
These cars would literally feel every bump of the road.... Not a bad idea though..
Rimac took more time than a 488 pista 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
With the right tires it would drop several seconds.
Freaking logano 😅
Bill Elliot’s 1988 car would have done so much better.
No way, it’s worse in every single area: Power, brakes, aero… Those are only faster on superspeedways because they don’t have restrictor plates
how did you say the track name? please use it properly or go home
Do GT500 now
Hola
Hola 🙃
Its incredible a supercar from 10 years ago is faster than this
cup cars aren’t made for twisty tracks like this
This generation of Cup car is slow. 2-4 seconds per minute slower than the prior generation, especially 2014. In my opinion, NASCAR no longer caters to having fast cars, their priorities are restrictions for compeitiveness.
@@v8ramair145 I think you're right, but when the cars go faster, they hit the walls faster. There's only so much impact energy the SAFER barriers can absorb, and even with the best design, the human body can only take so much. NASCAR started restricting speeds at Daytona and Talladega back in the 80's (which has created its own monster of sorts), so it's really nothing new.
The new cup car is way under powered. If it had a 2014 cup engine it would be running 240+mph down the long straight. 670hp today versus 950hp in 2014
The thing about going faster down the straight is you go slower through the corners and the chance of literally roasting the rear tires off the corner. No days the rarely have to brake on 1.5 mile and above.
Give me 900hp thats what made a cup car a cup car.
Why is it always Joey Logano?
Love the new iRacing footage. Such an improvement over AC mods.
F1?
Not bad tbh,having poor aereo and being underpowered
Garage 56 Camaro vs mustang gt3?
Camaro would smoke the Mustang, the GT3s are even slower than the GTEs the Camaro smoked in 2023
@@KitKitChanIsaac true, I’d wanna see it tho because camaro vs stang rivalry
@@nicklopez8279 Normal NASCAR Camaro vs NASCAR Mustang
☝🏻
I refuse to believe a NASCAR cup car could take the Karussell going any faster than 30 MPH.
It’s extremely banked, road cars are take it over 30 mph too
Video is released on how fast a car can lap the Nurburgring.
Jimmy Broadbent-Breathing intensifies.
Wrong nascar would be alot slower than that.
And you know this how? This is the most accurate Gen 7 scan on the planet
Probably wouldve been more fitting to use allmindgers or svgs paint scheme here
Aren't they designed only to turn left... 🤔
No, NASCAR has been racing on road courses since 1958.
@@RobbieLancelotBrah😂... I know that, I was making a joke about nascars...
@@KN1GHTM4RE. Yeah, sure "brah"
I wondered why they didn't put the 919 Evo lap time, now I do. It's in order to not make NASCAR look too ridiculous. I mean even a road car does better (Mercedes AMG one).
Dude it's not comparable. The NASCAR did well for what it is. I could write all the reasons why but I hope you're smart enough to understand when you think about it.
Who would've thought that the cars on the level of f1 cars are faster than a full body stock car
Nearly 500 less horsepower, less downforce, twice the weight, can’t think why it’d be slower.
@@horsecrazyviking7121 Because NASCAR is shit, you're welcome.
It’s not comparable, it’s like saying LMP1 was shit because it had 4 cars while NASCAR had over 40