The South Bank Show Presents - R.E.M

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  • @brysimm404
    @brysimm404 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    “We’re not doing this to buy a fur coat and a Cadillac, we’re trying to do something else.” And there it is - everything important about R.E.M 👍

  • @leftpastsaturn67
    @leftpastsaturn67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    For people of a certain vintage, there's something about watching a VHS recording again in this HD age... especially when it's about music you remember fondly from that period.

    • @conorsmith8551
      @conorsmith8551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      VHS was great wasn't it ? Remember having to return the tapes to the video shop , there was always a bastard that didn't rewind it back and you'd get it and think "ugh", it's just an unwritten rule you rewind it back when you were done ha

    • @jamesjackson-df1hi
      @jamesjackson-df1hi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@conorsmith8551 DITTO.

  • @MrGenXer
    @MrGenXer ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember listening to REM, seriously, for the first time in my dorm room at the Univ. of Georgia in 1986. Those first records mesmerized me. It blew me away when they became so big globally. I always thought they were our band down in the south. Freaking love them, always will.

    • @seanwinkel8890
      @seanwinkel8890 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We were classmates at UGA then. It was a pretty great time to be down there.

    • @MrGenXer
      @MrGenXer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@seanwinkel8890 yeah, the wild frat parties.

    • @IQGENIUS881
      @IQGENIUS881 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrGenXer n g

  • @kellyharper8072
    @kellyharper8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    REM is nostalgia pure nostalgia, their songs were always bittersweet. Love them ❤️

  • @annonymost9318
    @annonymost9318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Stipe was and always has been an impressionistic singer....and often....an impressionistic writer..........and an artist most of all...thanks man....

  • @dak2005vn
    @dak2005vn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    NightSwimming and Find the River, gotta be my two favorite REM tunes.

    • @situated4
      @situated4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NightSwimming played Brandon out of his final episode on BH 90210, S9, E5, 11-04-1998.

    • @andlidearmadta9680
      @andlidearmadta9680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great choices

    • @lynnepashley4281
      @lynnepashley4281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My favourites also

  • @oldschoolm8
    @oldschoolm8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Great little find this, thanks for posting. I think what makes REM one of the greatest bands of all time was their absolute steadfastness in just being themselves. That’s why I love them, and I respect that they knew when to call it a day. Murmur is probably the best album of the 80’s.

  • @MrHubb1
    @MrHubb1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you for sharing this. R.E.M are one of the best bands of all time.

  • @HarborEdwin
    @HarborEdwin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That Mr. Stipe pulls out the word 'nascent' then asks, "Is that a word." and that word be precisely what he is pointing to, is poetry in notion... 05:30

  • @guysingleton9611
    @guysingleton9611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cannot imagine what my teenage years would have been like without REM. Got to see them on the Green tour, amazing live. I long for those days. That's the problem with nostalgia, it's not what it used to be

  • @mattmarkus4868
    @mattmarkus4868 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    25:14 those are some of the wisest words I've heard a successful musician say. 100% true. It takes a big person to not just know it, but actually live by it.

  • @RacerPaul3
    @RacerPaul3 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve seen a million R.E.M documentaries - and this one might be the best.

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for sharing, it's my favorite band.

  • @timothylines631
    @timothylines631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i grew up in orange county new york. . i know what this band is all about. greatness,

  • @kellyharper8072
    @kellyharper8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Athens GA, loved partying there in the 90s.

  • @MichaelJamesAndersonActor
    @MichaelJamesAndersonActor 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great post. Thanks for putting this up!

  • @mobiuspaw494
    @mobiuspaw494 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found this.
    Thank you.
    Love this band since the 80s.

  • @neanderthalsnavel7411
    @neanderthalsnavel7411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Jangly arpeggios; no guitar solos; not blues music; great baselines; excellent background vocals; riffs; and of course interesting lyrics and lead singing.

    • @conorsmith8551
      @conorsmith8551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very like johnny marr

    • @johnbowen35
      @johnbowen35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great points you make. The use of the Rickenbacker adds that jangle pop micro infusion into their compositions. It's part of their signature sound, that a Strat or a Les Paul could not bring to the table, with REMs music. Couple that with 4 phenomenally gifted musicians, an unwillingness to compromise their music, by going along to get along, and you have a band that is forever one of the best to ever take the stage.

    • @sonjar1853
      @sonjar1853 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well put.

  • @johnnyennis9864
    @johnnyennis9864 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for posting this :)

  • @kimhebert9905
    @kimhebert9905 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed…Thx for posting 🎶👍

  • @IAmRobertAndrews
    @IAmRobertAndrews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for uploading, what a joy :-)

  • @rafaelosunen
    @rafaelosunen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for posting. This is great.

  • @johnbowen35
    @johnbowen35 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I won't disagree with anyone, that Mike Stipes voice, is the signature sound of REM, without his voice, they are just another band. But I also know that each and every member of REM, is part of the complex puzzle that makes REM who they are, I feel minus anyone in the band, it's not the same, including especially the man on the kit

  • @cogybear
    @cogybear หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for posting, nice doc

  • @bryandukes6869
    @bryandukes6869 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great watch, thanks for posting

  • @rax816
    @rax816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They go from Gardening at Night to Nightswimming...lol .

    • @bhdctn
      @bhdctn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both GREAT songs!!!

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With REM , I can't think of a fave song, cos I'd be there forever !

  • @johnbowen35
    @johnbowen35 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The music business ain't for the weak, nor is it built for longevity in some cases....REMs body of work is complete, it is an essential and vital body of work, that is a cornerstone of Alternative rock, and arguably unsurmountable by those who attempt to parallel, or surpass what these 4 men have created. To me, it won't ever happen, not the way it did with 4 dudes from Athens Ga......

  • @sexobscura
    @sexobscura 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *REMember when all this was just a memory of a wistful momentum moving shouldered onward sideways*

  • @vanrooj
    @vanrooj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like the comment (13:46) from Micheal about using the voice as emotion, and as an instrument, as that chimes with how I look at vocals. When you have a 3 minute pop song, the lyrics are written, and sometimes repeated and often rhymed in a verse / chorus / verse and seem somewhat fake simply to fit into the thread of the song. Many times I've listened to pop songs and changed the words to fit into how I feel, but I've kept the same tone and harmony. The lyrics the band used, to me, simply did not fit into my emotional experience, so I use my own words as I'm singing.. There are songs out there that are meaningful and hit the right note, words and poetry that seem to speaking directly to me ( my experience of this was the band James, when I was in my 20's. Tim Booth seemed to speak directly to me, and that band will always be in my heart).
    But, realistically, who needs to hear the lyrics of a singer, who's experience of life is different to mine? I don't need to know about his failed life with women, his poverty strewn small town - but I need to hear his emotion about it. Through his voice, and how he sings, I can understand - because we all have those same emotions. I listen to a lot of foreign music - at the moment I'm listening to: Japanese 60's funk, Chinese 80's pop songs, and my ultimate favourite; 1940's Thai music. I don't need to know these languages to understand the emotion of the singer. The tone, that is all I need to hear - fear, sadness, heartbreak, it's all there in the singer's voice.

  • @acercade439
    @acercade439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My best memory. R.E.M

  • @dos9167
    @dos9167 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a really good REM doco!

  • @marialuciasilvaoliveira2558
    @marialuciasilvaoliveira2558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very lovely🤩

  • @johnbowen35
    @johnbowen35 ปีที่แล้ว

    The mixing board in the studio is enormous. I find it amazing, that each and every button and knob, has a purpose. It looks like overkill, but I can only suppose that an engineer understands how to operate the board

    • @keppela1
      @keppela1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ha, yeah, kind of like the cockpit of a 747.

  • @vigil3232
    @vigil3232 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike Stipe went to my high school. This is the only reference I’ve ever heard him vaguely mention it. Wow, cool.

  • @bneyens
    @bneyens 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That intro was pretty epic.

  • @samuelblinne6040
    @samuelblinne6040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome

  • @timgainnes5534
    @timgainnes5534 ปีที่แล้ว

    so good

  • @MichaelRector-qf7xp
    @MichaelRector-qf7xp หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah people don't mention Night Swimming enough and so fun to sing along with

  • @craigbendall3716
    @craigbendall3716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very special band

  • @johnj2626
    @johnj2626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally someone (Bono) figured out who Peter Buck is by his comments in this documentary - he plays like he's saying f-off! He's not into the publicity of it all but loves music. I always had a tough time figuring out his disdain for recognition - now I get it

  • @johnsammis3198
    @johnsammis3198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can tell Melvyn Bragg is so checked out at this point.

  • @paulmacca
    @paulmacca 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Pretty sure that Tube live footage is from 84, not 86

    • @jcee
      @jcee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul McCarthy 18th Nov.'83.:-)

    • @paulmacca
      @paulmacca 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jcee cheers for that. I knew it wasn't 86 as I went out and bought Reckoning soon after seeing that live. It hadn't been out long

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely 83. Murmur tour/promo.

  • @AlbertoGonzalez-hi1og
    @AlbertoGonzalez-hi1og ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody knows where can I find the version of gardening at night of this video? Thanks

  • @spookedhorse
    @spookedhorse 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:34
    BAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA, gotta love Stipe.

  • @conorfurlong
    @conorfurlong 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If someone could edit out Bono’s inexplicable appearance in this otherwise great piece, that’d be great.

    • @michaelwertzy9808
      @michaelwertzy9808 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh-Noh! Boh- Noh. Sony Boh-Noh?!

    • @jasonkeith9317
      @jasonkeith9317 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish they had more Bono he's my hero.

  • @bradthomas5184
    @bradthomas5184 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always heard words in the songs....from Chronic Town on

  • @bertilknudsen
    @bertilknudsen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    R.E.M. were like a mix of Steeleye Span and Sex Pistols - at least as long as Berry stayed. Also notable was the absence of blues in their music.

    • @chadlong1109
      @chadlong1109 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're an idiot.

    • @earinsound
      @earinsound 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They don't sound like either of those bands

    • @alsacrime4806
      @alsacrime4806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well check out Hindu Love Gods there is some superb raw blues.
      The difference between REM and the Sex Pistols was that REM could actually play their instruments and sing.
      You would need to explain the other comparison.

    • @terrythekittieful
      @terrythekittieful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alsacrime4806 Steve Jones is a highly rated rythm guitarist and Paul Cook is very solid on the drums, likewise Glen Matlock is a very competent bassist...to say the 'Pistols' can't play their instruments is ridiculous...check out their performance on 'Dave Letterman' several years ago, they brought the house down.

    • @alsacrime4806
      @alsacrime4806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      terrythekittie Talk is cheap. Check the tracking notes. The Sex Pistols were straight out of Tavistock, bad actors in a social engineering project called punk rock.

  • @grega.4556
    @grega.4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Nigel... You aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you, Nigel? Oh dear. I’m guessing someone is making plans for Nigel.

  • @jamesjackson-df1hi
    @jamesjackson-df1hi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AT LEAST IT CUTS OUT HAVING TO FIX THE TRACKING ON VHS, AND THE ADVENTURES OF THE TAPE CHEWING UP OR SNAPPING ALTOGETHER.

  • @peterolson5232
    @peterolson5232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to hear Bono try to explain the lyrics to 'Sitting Still'...

  • @UXB-p5u
    @UXB-p5u 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BUCK MILLS BERRY......altogether now ME!!🙃🤗

  • @mattgilbert7347
    @mattgilbert7347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a strong sense of "Fuck off, Bono"

    • @jasonkeith9317
      @jasonkeith9317 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't he married to Cher??

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonkeith9317 And they had a kid named Sonny

  • @ncf1
    @ncf1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    They couldn't have got a worse, more disinterested commentator than Bono, could they.

    • @imochonai5723
      @imochonai5723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He is in every documentary that has been made since 1993. The world's greatest wanker.

    • @conorsmith8551
      @conorsmith8551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha good music but yep he's a pretentious shite.

    • @jasonkeith9317
      @jasonkeith9317 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bono is a god amongst men.

    • @philyates7670
      @philyates7670 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's a close friend of Stipe and U2 and R.E.M. were close during the nineties. Stipe himself said Beautiful Day was a perfect song and one that he wished he'd written himself.

  • @darrenlloyd2990
    @darrenlloyd2990 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that Tom cruse at 29.24

  • @juanabratte5911
    @juanabratte5911 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:40 to 4:04 so Smells like teen spirit like

  • @williamjones933
    @williamjones933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do these guys hate Monster they never talk about the process on that, and although not their best it was a sick album imho.

    • @zombiemosher1139
      @zombiemosher1139 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not now mate, with the 25th Anniversary of it there are tons of interview vids on it.

    • @tribeshift
      @tribeshift 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very underrated album.

  • @dereckburgess5690
    @dereckburgess5690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bono ... what a crock.

  • @hang-sangitch
    @hang-sangitch 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Why is bono in this? Nnnnngh

    • @adamredmer
      @adamredmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha!

    • @gildan
      @gildan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Edge is foine !

    • @philyates7670
      @philyates7670 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because U2 and R.E.M. were really good friends and Bono admires them.

    • @ziggypop79
      @ziggypop79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He should get back to George W

    • @earinsound
      @earinsound 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggypop79 yeah really. what a fucking phoney

  • @johnbarrick80
    @johnbarrick80 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the audio so fucked up on this?

  • @clonaztevedreamkiller5277
    @clonaztevedreamkiller5277 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah you were the only person in the state of Illinois who appreciated punk rock. Ok Michael. Love REM but damn that dude is dramatic

  • @simodo11
    @simodo11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bono really didn’t add to this ,nothing really interesting to say apart from sort off ,weirdly criticise

    • @frederickfranchi6408
      @frederickfranchi6408 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought he was right on point, especially about Peter buck🤔 okay so you don't like Bono ✌️

  • @tobywilliamsphotography5257
    @tobywilliamsphotography5257 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    They were a brilliant band but I think Michael Stipe started to take himself too seriously. Much like Bono, Sting, Roger Waters and many other rock musicians did.

    • @ncf1
      @ncf1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      good point!

    • @ncf1
      @ncf1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      actually for me, Mike Mills was even worse. After Monster it went straight to their heads and Mike Mills in particular just became so holier-than-thou, Stipe just came out of shell a little bit more, but not quite in the best way.

    • @kierstenh9225
      @kierstenh9225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think he has a right to take himself seriously. He wrote great music!

    • @jamesparriott5852
      @jamesparriott5852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kierstenh9225 They wrote great stuff until they got famous ..... they went from Southern Everyman to Hollywood Nobodies ..... left their roots and expected the woods to follow..... didn't happen .....

    • @indracawley4496
      @indracawley4496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesparriott5852 hjjj. Nnmmmmbnnjii8o900000jjkkoooiìiZz♤◇◇◇◇◇◇

  • @brysimm404
    @brysimm404 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How could this show host possibly have mispronounced Bono as BO-no? Holy crap, last I checked U2 was pretty big in the UK even back then.

    • @elijaprice
      @elijaprice 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Melvyn Bragg, he's very high brow, he does intellectual/art programmes (that are excellent), but the dude is like, 80 years old now, so he probably would've been in his 60s here, the circles he moves in probably don't discuss Bono very often. But ask him about baroque post-modernism or some 12th century Arabic mathematician, and he'll be all over it.

    • @brysimm404
      @brysimm404 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@elijaprice But it’s a basic part of a presenter’s job to pronounce things / names correctly. Plus the show has a staff of producers, so someone should have caught it even if he didn’t know better - ugh 🙄

  • @crapple009
    @crapple009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "...Georgia, a largely rural state." Um, most states in the U.S. are largely rural- after all, it's the third largest country in the world.

    • @alsacrime4806
      @alsacrime4806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      crapple009
      It’s a Brit, what to say?

    • @sobrevalorado
      @sobrevalorado 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fourth, not third

    • @baronfyrewhine
      @baronfyrewhine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2nd largest. Canada's numbers are a scam.

    • @crapple009
      @crapple009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sobrevalorado Wrong. Try again...

    • @williambullock4077
      @williambullock4077 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So what, did you expect him to name all the rural states. Kind of silly.

  • @johns3990
    @johns3990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would of preferred to hear the opinions of Joe Shmoe, instead of Bono.

  • @harryharr74
    @harryharr74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2nd Best band in the world

    • @frederickfranchi6408
      @frederickfranchi6408 ปีที่แล้ว

      Second band who's the first??? my top five Beatles
      The Moody blues
      REM
      U2
      Neil Young

    • @alekkoomanoff7281
      @alekkoomanoff7281 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moody Blues????

  • @markhamer4168
    @markhamer4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bono¨s band are no way near the level of REM.

    • @juliesuppa1906
      @juliesuppa1906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's an unfair comparison...they are both amazing bands

    • @arricammarques1955
      @arricammarques1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliesuppa1906 U2 holier than thou image, LOL

    • @jasonkeith9317
      @jasonkeith9317 ปีที่แล้ว

      U mean U2??

    • @philyates7670
      @philyates7670 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby are both phenomenal albums. It's unfair to compare the two bands ad they're from totally different genres and musical backgrounds. Both are amazing with incredible bodies of albums/songs.

  • @MikeJones-cr7mt
    @MikeJones-cr7mt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael Stipe was the weirdest guy I ever seen 🙁

  • @ziggypop79
    @ziggypop79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter Buck was the reason they split up

    • @sartainja
      @sartainja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe Michael got tired of coming up with lyrics.

    • @emmacassidy8482
      @emmacassidy8482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They'd been in freefall since Berry left. He was their lynchpin.

  • @thomasgary1219
    @thomasgary1219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stipe reminds of Samson in the bible who lost his god like power when he lost his hair.

  • @ericmalone3213
    @ericmalone3213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uh, Bono, it's nice that you're so supportive of R.E.M. & Michael Stipe, but Michael Stipe's writing has absolutely nothing to do with Jack Kerouac's writing.

    • @lucasoheyze4597
      @lucasoheyze4597 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with Bono.

    • @ericmalone3213
      @ericmalone3213 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucasoheyze4597 Then you don't know what you're talking about either.

    • @georgesandchopin299
      @georgesandchopin299 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bullshit! Especially early R.E.M. was basically- get in the van and find the heartbeat of America. They had the same tender folkiness. Like the Byrds played by the Ramones with a collegiate Walt Whitman in the front. Let alone the stream of consciousness lyrics .

    • @ericmalone3213
      @ericmalone3213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgesandchopin299 Yes, Jack Kerouac got in a van, and he and Neal Cassady signed an $80 million contract with Warner Brothers. Kerouac's writing was not "tender folkiness" nor was he a tender folkie, Auld Swodge. All of Kerouac's books were written on amphetamines. Jack Kerouac's writing is most certainly not "stream of consciousness." Perhaps you're thinking of James Joyce's Ulysses or Finnegan's Wake. But that is the illusion of "stream of consciousness". Like James Joyce, Jack Kerouac was a meticulously disciplined writer. His first novel was a 1,069 page, four years in the making, studious imitation of Thomas Wolfe. All of that discipline went into the single teletype scroll of On The Road. Kerouac's greatest work is Visions of Cody, which is also a very far cry from "stream of consciousness." The bullshit is not mine, Auld Podge. You don't know what you're talking about. The notion of a "collegiate Walt Whitman" is absolutely hilarious! And poor Johnny Ramone couldn't tune a twelve string guitar, nevermind play one! Now get back to the salt mines, Sonny!

    • @georgesandchopin299
      @georgesandchopin299 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ericmalone3213 on William F Buckley's talkshow (also with Abbie Hoffman) Kerouac summarised the entirety of the beat movement as a 'call for tenderness in attitude toward life' *sic* and your presumption of him as a barbed wire hardcore writer has shown me you have entirely missed the point he was trying to make. Yes, ofc he was on benzedrine, writing On The Road in a 'speed-fuelled stream of consciousness,' the original manuscript clearly indicates a lack of editing in it's creation. Infact, REM were speed freaks also in the early days, Stipe has mentioned this many times. His best work is in his letters to Allen Ginsberg, or the Dharma Bums in my humble opinion. Johnny Ramone is a wonderful guitar player and also Peter Buck has mentioned his own lack of technical ability, ESPECIALLY mentioning that he finds playing 12 strings challenging in his recent live interview with the REM podcast in a Portland theatre. I will go back to bed, you should go back to the library.

  • @harryharr74
    @harryharr74 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Smiths being 1st

    • @bhdctn
      @bhdctn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kind of apples and oranges. Marr was a better guitarist. I think over all the Buck/ Mills collaboration was a little better overall in the song composition department. Maybe not better. Just longer lasting and more allowed to evolve. The 2 strengths of REM were the harmonies between Stipe and Mills AND their GREAT decision to split everything 4 ways. That plus Stipe wasn't a controlling antisocial ass like Morrissey. Like why the hell did they still have Marr doing managerial day to day stuff?

  • @nigelbridgewater4866
    @nigelbridgewater4866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anybody understand what any REM song is about? No because all Stipe can write is a bunch of random lyrics that sound good but are ultimately meaningless. They are not great songwriters.

    • @nigelbridgewater4866
      @nigelbridgewater4866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Joe Martin Actually U2, Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, The Boss and Elvis Costello are my favourite rock songwriters and they all have a good sense of humour (well except Van the man) unlike Michael Stipe and a small number of his fans. Don't take other peoples opinions so seriously, nerd.

    • @pwmac
      @pwmac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      you're only playing with a half a deck aren't you Nigel. There are examples of as you say random words and phrases to create a collage rather than a linear narrative but there are many, many examples of a well crafted thematic work. They are superior songwriters, I doubt you'll find anyone with any understanding of the craft, fans or not, who would argue that point

    • @carljules3123
      @carljules3123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@nigelbridgewater4866 I've never understood the whole Boss thing with a very straight pedestal attitude, it is alien to me , very rock'n'roll whereas I love the outsiders who were different, Rem's Michael Stipe, Lou Reed, Bowie, Siouxsie, Morrissey and different straight singers like Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan,

    • @kierstenh9225
      @kierstenh9225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I call trolling on you! Life is more than playing jokes in the TH-cam comments section.

    • @gwendolyn0515
      @gwendolyn0515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe they are meaningless to you, I enjoyed the lyrics of their songs.

  • @davidbowman4259
    @davidbowman4259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only two bad albums in their stellar career: Reveal and Around the Sun.

  • @eddiegalon3714
    @eddiegalon3714 ปีที่แล้ว

    Editing is terrible on this. They play songs throughout that have no correlation to what period of music or song is being talked about at the moment. Some editor got payed for slapping footage and interviews together randomly. Go back to editing college whomever you are that did this waste of time years ago. Horrible.