Atheist Challenges Rabbi Tovia Singer! Is Judaism True and the Torah from God?
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"and 'ה said to Moshe: Behold I am coming to you in the thickness of the cloud *in order that the entire nation hears Me speaking with you, so that in you too will they believe in for eternity..."* Exodus 19 verse 9. *Amen.*
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1When the people saw that Moses was late in coming down from the mountain, the people gathered against Aaron, and they said to him: "Come on! Make us gods that will go before us, because this man Moses, who brought us up from the land of Egypt we don't know what has become of him." אוַיַּ֣רְא הָעָ֔ם כִּֽי בשֵׁ֥שׁ משֶׁ֖ה לָרֶ֣דֶת מִן־הָהָ֑ר וַיִּקָּהֵ֨ל הָעָ֜ם עַל־אַֽהֲרֹ֗ן וַיֹּֽאמְר֤וּ אֵלָיו֙ ק֣וּם | עֲשֵׂה־לָ֣נוּ אֱלֹהִ֗ים אֲשֶׁ֤ר יֵֽלְכוּ֙ לְפָנֵ֔ינוּ כִּי־זֶ֣ה | משֶׁ֣ה הָאִ֗ישׁ אֲשֶׁ֤ר הֶֽעֱלָ֨נוּ֙ מֵאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרַ֔יִם לֹ֥א יָדַ֖עְנוּ מֶה־הָ֥יָה לֽוֹ:
2Aaron said to them, "Remove the golden earrings that are on the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters and bring them [those earrings] to me." בוַיֹּ֤אמֶר אֲלֵהֶם֙ אַֽהֲרֹ֔ן פָּֽרְקוּ֙ נִזְמֵ֣י הַזָּהָ֔ב אֲשֶׁר֙ בְּאָזְנֵ֣י נְשֵׁיכֶ֔ם בְּנֵיכֶ֖ם וּבְנֹֽתֵיכֶ֑ם וְהָבִ֖יאוּ אֵלָֽי:
3And all the people stripped themselves of the golden earrings that were on their ears and brought them to Aaron. גוַיִּתְפָּֽרְקוּ֙ כָּל־הָעָ֔ם אֶת־נִזְמֵ֥י הַזָּהָ֖ב אֲשֶׁ֣ר בְּאָזְנֵיהֶ֑ם וַיָּבִ֖יאוּ אֶל־אַֽהֲרֹֽן:
4He took [them] from their hand[s], fashioned it with an engraving tool, and made it into a molten calf, upon which they said: "These are your gods, O Israel, who have brought you up from the land of Egypt!" דוַיִּקַּ֣ח מִיָּדָ֗ם וַיָּ֤צַר אֹתוֹ֙ בַּחֶ֔רֶט וַיַּֽעֲשֵׂ֖הוּ עֵ֣גֶל מַסֵּכָ֑ה וַיֹּ֣אמְר֔וּ אֵ֤לֶּה אֱלֹהֶ֨יךָ֙ יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֲשֶׁ֥ר הֶֽעֱל֖וּךָ מֵאֶ֥רֶץ מִצְרָֽיִם:
5When Aaron saw [this], he built an altar in front of it, and Aaron proclaimed and said: "Tomorrow shall be a festival to the Lord." הוַיַּ֣רְא אַֽהֲרֹ֔ן וַיִּ֥בֶן מִזְבֵּ֖חַ לְפָנָ֑יו וַיִּקְרָ֤א אַֽהֲרֹן֙ וַיֹּאמַ֔ר חַ֥ג לַֽיהֹוָ֖ה מָחָֽר:
6On the next day they arose early, offered up burnt offerings, and brought peace offerings, and the people sat down to eat and to drink, and they got up to make merry. ווַיַּשְׁכִּ֨ימוּ֙ מִמָּֽחֳרָ֔ת וַיַּֽעֲל֣וּ עֹלֹ֔ת וַיַּגִּ֖שׁוּ שְׁלָמִ֑ים וַיֵּ֤שֶׁב הָעָם֙ לֶֽאֱכֹ֣ל וְשָׁת֔וֹ וַיָּקֻ֖מוּ לְצַחֵֽק:
7And the Lord said to Moses: "Go, descend, for your people that you have brought up from the land of Egypt have acted corruptly. זוַיְדַבֵּ֥ר יְהֹוָ֖ה אֶל־משֶׁ֑ה לֶךְ־רֵ֕ד כִּ֚י שִׁחֵ֣ת עַמְּךָ֔ אֲשֶׁ֥ר הֶֽעֱלֵ֖יתָ מֵאֶ֥רֶץ מִצְרָֽיִם:
8They have quickly turned away from the path that I have commanded them; they have made themselves a molten calf! And they have prostrated themselves before it, slaughtered sacrifices to it, and said: 'These are your gods, O Israel, who have brought you up from the land of Egypt.' " חסָ֣רוּ מַהֵ֗ר מִן־הַדֶּ֨רֶךְ֙ אֲשֶׁ֣ר צִוִּיתִ֔ם עָשׂ֣וּ לָהֶ֔ם עֵ֖גֶל מַסֵּכָ֑ה וַיִּשְׁתַּֽחֲווּ־לוֹ֙ וַיִּזְבְּחוּ־ל֔וֹ וַיֹּ֣אמְר֔וּ אֵ֤לֶּה אֱלֹהֶ֨יךָ֙ יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל אֲשֶׁ֥ר הֶֽעֱל֖וּךָ מֵאֶ֥רֶץ מִצְרָֽיִם:
9And the Lord said to Moses: "I have seen this people and behold! they are a stiff necked people. טוַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהֹוָ֖ה אֶל־משֶׁ֑ה רָאִ֨יתִי֙ אֶת־הָעָ֣ם הַזֶּ֔ה וְהִנֵּ֥ה עַם־קְשֵׁה־עֹ֖רֶף הֽוּא:
10Now leave Me alone, and My anger will be kindled against them so that I will annihilate them, and I will make you into a great nation." יוְעַתָּה֙ הַנִּ֣יחָה לִּ֔י וְיִֽחַר־אַפִּ֥י בָהֶ֖ם וַֽאֲכַלֵּ֑ם וְאֶֽעֱשֶׂ֥ה אֽוֹתְךָ֖ לְג֥וֹי גָּדֽוֹל:
11Moses pleaded before the Lord, his God, and said: "Why, O Lord, should Your anger be kindled against Your people whom You have brought up from the land of Egypt with great power and with a strong hand? יאוַיְחַ֣ל משֶׁ֔ה אֶת־פְּנֵ֖י יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהָ֑יו וַיֹּ֗אמֶר לָמָ֤ה יְהֹוָה֙ יֶֽחֱרֶ֤ה אַפְּךָ֙ בְּעַמֶּ֔ךָ אֲשֶׁ֤ר הוֹצֵ֨אתָ֙ מֵאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרַ֔יִם בְּכֹ֥חַ גָּד֖וֹל וּבְיָ֥ד חֲזָקָֽה:
12Why should the Egyptians say: 'He brought them out with evil [intent] to kill them in the mountains and to annihilate them from upon the face of the earth'? Retreat from the heat of Your anger and reconsider the evil [intended] for Your people. יבלָ֩מָּה֩ יֹֽאמְר֨וּ מִצְרַ֜יִם לֵאמֹ֗ר בְּרָעָ֤ה הֽוֹצִיאָם֙ לַֽהֲרֹ֤ג אֹתָם֙ בֶּֽהָרִ֔ים וּלְכַ֨לֹּתָ֔ם מֵעַ֖ל פְּנֵ֣י הָֽאֲדָמָ֑ה שׁ֚וּב מֵֽחֲר֣וֹן אַפֶּ֔ךָ וְהִנָּחֵ֥ם עַל־הָֽרָעָ֖ה לְעַמֶּֽךָ:
13Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, Your servants, to whom You swore by Your very Self, and to whom You said: 'I will multiply your seed like the stars of the heavens, and all this land which I said that I would give to your seed, they shall keep it as their possession forever.' " יגזְכֹ֡ר לְאַבְרָהָם֩ לְיִצְחָ֨ק וּלְיִשְׂרָאֵ֜ל עֲבָדֶ֗יךָ אֲשֶׁ֨ר נִשְׁבַּ֣עְתָּ לָהֶם֘ בָּךְ֒ וַתְּדַבֵּ֣ר אֲלֵהֶ֔ם אַרְבֶּה֙ אֶת־זַרְעֲכֶ֔ם כְּכֽוֹכְבֵ֖י הַשָּׁמָ֑יִם וְכָל־הָאָ֨רֶץ הַזֹּ֜את אֲשֶׁ֣ר אָמַ֗רְתִּי אֶתֵּן֙ לְזַרְעֲכֶ֔ם וְנָֽחֲל֖וּ לְעֹלָֽם:
14The Lord [then] reconsidered the evil He had said He would do to His people. ידוַיִּנָּ֖חֶם יְהֹוָ֑ה עַל־הָ֣רָעָ֔ה אֲשֶׁ֥ר דִּבֶּ֖ר לַֽעֲשׂ֥וֹת לְעַמּֽוֹ:
15Now Moses turned and went down from the mountain [bearing] the two tablets of the testimony in his hand, tablets inscribed from both their sides; on one side and on the other side they were inscribed. טווַיִּ֜פֶן וַיֵּ֤רֶד משֶׁה֙ מִן־הָהָ֔ר וּשְׁנֵ֛י לֻחֹ֥ת הָֽעֵדֻ֖ת בְּיָד֑וֹ לֻחֹ֗ת כְּתֻבִים֙ מִשְּׁנֵ֣י עֶבְרֵיהֶ֔ם מִזֶּ֥ה וּמִזֶּ֖ה הֵ֥ם כְּתֻבִֽים:
16Now the tablets were God's work, and the inscription was God's inscription, engraved on the tablets. טזוְהַ֨לֻּחֹ֔ת מַֽעֲשֵׂ֥ה אֱלֹהִ֖ים הֵ֑מָּה וְהַמִּכְתָּ֗ב מִכְתַּ֤ב אֱלֹהִים֙ ה֔וּא חָר֖וּת עַל־הַלֻּחֹֽת:
17When Joshua heard the voice of the people in their shouting, he said to Moses: "There is a voice of battle in the camp!" יזוַיִּשְׁמַ֧ע יְהוֹשֻׁ֛עַ אֶת־ק֥וֹל הָעָ֖ם בְּרֵעֹ֑ה וַיֹּ֨אמֶר֙ אֶל־משֶׁ֔ה ק֥וֹל מִלְחָמָ֖ה בַּמַּֽחֲנֶֽה:
18But [Moses] said: "[It is] neither a voice shouting victory, nor a voice shouting defeat; a voice of blasphemy I hear." יחוַיֹּ֗אמֶר אֵ֥ין קוֹל֙ עֲנ֣וֹת גְּבוּרָ֔ה וְאֵ֥ין ק֖וֹל עֲנ֣וֹת חֲלוּשָׁ֑ה ק֣וֹל עַנּ֔וֹת אָֽנֹכִ֖י שֹׁמֵֽעַ:
19Now it came to pass when he drew closer to the camp and saw the calf and the dances, that Moses' anger was kindled, and he flung the tablets from his hands, shattering them at the foot of the mountain. יטוַיְהִ֗י כַּֽאֲשֶׁ֤ר קָרַב֙ אֶל־הַמַּֽחֲנֶ֔ה וַיַּ֥רְא אֶת־הָעֵ֖גֶל וּמְחֹלֹ֑ת וַיִּֽחַר־אַ֣ף משֶׁ֗ה וַיַּשְׁלֵ֤ךְ מִיָּדָו֙ אֶת־הַלֻּחֹ֔ת וַיְשַׁבֵּ֥ר אֹתָ֖ם תַּ֥חַת הָהָֽר:
20Then he took the calf they had made, burned it in fire, ground it to fine powder, scattered [it] upon the surface of the water, and gave [it to] the children of Israel to drink. כוַיִּקַּ֞ח אֶת־הָעֵ֨גֶל אֲשֶׁ֤ר עָשׂוּ֙ וַיִּשְׂרֹ֣ף בָּאֵ֔שׁ וַיִּטְחַ֖ן עַ֣ד אֲשֶׁר־דָּ֑ק וַיִּ֨זֶר֙ עַל־פְּנֵ֣י הַמַּ֔יִם וַיַּ֖שְׁק אֶת־בְּנֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵֽל:
21Moses said to Aaron: "What did this people do to you that you brought [such] a grave sin upon them?" כאוַיֹּ֤אמֶר משֶׁה֙ אֶל־אַֽהֲרֹ֔ן מֶֽה־עָשָׂ֥ה לְךָ֖ הָעָ֣ם הַזֶּ֑ה כִּֽי־הֵבֵ֥אתָ עָלָ֖יו חֲטָאָ֥ה גְדֹלָֽה:
22Aaron replied: "Let not my lord's anger grow hot! You know the people, that they are disposed toward evil. כבוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אַֽהֲרֹ֔ן אַל־יִ֥חַר אַ֖ף אֲדֹנִ֑י אַתָּה֙ יָדַ֣עְתָּ אֶת־הָעָ֔ם כִּ֥י בְרָ֖ע הֽוּא:
23They said to me, 'Make us gods who will go before us, because this man Moses, who brought us up from the land of Egypt we do not know what has become of him.' כגוַיֹּ֣אמְרוּ לִ֔י עֲשֵׂה־לָ֣נוּ אֱלֹהִ֔ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר יֵֽלְכ֖וּ לְפָנֵ֑ינוּ כִּי־זֶ֣ה | משֶׁ֣ה הָאִ֗ישׁ אֲשֶׁ֤ר הֶֽעֱלָ֨נוּ֙ מֵאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרַ֔יִם לֹ֥א יָדַ֖עְנוּ מֶה־הָ֥יָה לֽוֹ:
24I said to them, 'Who has gold?' So they took it [the gold] off and gave it to me; I threw it into the fire and out came this calf." כדוָֽאֹמַ֤ר לָהֶם֙ לְמִ֣י זָהָ֔ב הִתְפָּרָ֖קוּ וַיִּתְּנוּ־לִ֑י וָֽאַשְׁלִכֵ֣הוּ בָאֵ֔שׁ וַיֵּצֵ֖א הָעֵ֥גֶל הַזֶּֽה:
25And Moses saw the people, that they were exposed, for Aaron had exposed them to be disgraced before their adversaries. כהוַיַּ֤רְא משֶׁה֙ אֶת־הָעָ֔ם כִּ֥י פָרֻ֖עַ ה֑וּא כִּֽי־פְרָעֹ֣ה אַֽהֲרֹ֔ן לְשִׁמְצָ֖ה בְּקָֽמֵיהֶֽם:
26So Moses stood in the gate of the camp and said: "Whoever is for the Lord, [let him come] to me!" And all the sons of Levi gathered around him. כווַיַּֽעֲמֹ֤ד משֶׁה֙ בְּשַׁ֣עַר הַמַּֽחֲנֶ֔ה וַיֹּ֕אמֶר מִ֥י לַֽיהֹוָ֖ה אֵלָ֑י וַיֵּאָֽסְפ֥וּ אֵלָ֖יו כָּל־בְּנֵ֥י לֵוִֽי:
27He said to them: "So said the Lord, the God of Israel: 'Let every man place his sword upon his thigh and pass back and forth from one gate to the other in the camp, and let every man kill his brother, every man his friend, every man his kinsman.' " כזוַיֹּ֣אמֶר לָהֶ֗ם כֹּֽה־אָמַ֤ר יְהֹוָה֙ אֱלֹהֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל שִׂ֥ימוּ אִֽישׁ־חַרְבּ֖וֹ עַל־יְרֵכ֑וֹ עִבְר֨וּ וָשׁ֜וּבוּ מִשַּׁ֤עַר לָשַׁ֨עַר֙ בַּמַּֽחֲנֶ֔ה וְהִרְג֧וּ אִֽישׁ־אֶת־אָחִ֛יו וְאִ֥ישׁ אֶת־רֵעֵ֖הוּ וְאִ֥ישׁ אֶת־קְרֹבֽוֹ:
28The sons of Levi did according to Moses' word; on that day some three thousand men fell from among the people. כחוַיַּֽעֲשׂ֥וּ בְנֵֽי־לֵוִ֖י כִּדְבַ֣ר משֶׁ֑ה וַיִּפֹּ֤ל מִן־הָעָם֙ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַה֔וּא כִּשְׁל֥שֶׁת אַלְפֵ֖י אִֽישׁ:
29And Moses said: "Initiate yourselves today for the Lord for each man with his son and with his brother so that He may bestow a blessing upon you this day. " כטוַיֹּ֣אמֶר משֶׁ֗ה מִלְא֨וּ יֶדְכֶ֤ם הַיּוֹם֙ לַֽיהֹוָ֔ה כִּ֛י אִ֥ישׁ בִּבְנ֖וֹ וּבְאָחִ֑יו וְלָתֵ֧ת עֲלֵיכֶ֛ם הַיּ֖וֹם בְּרָכָֽה:
30It came to pass on the next day that Moses said to the people: "You have committed a grave sin. And now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I will obtain atonement for your sin." לוַֽיְהִי֙ מִמָּֽחֳרָ֔ת וַיֹּ֤אמֶר משֶׁה֙ אֶל־הָעָ֔ם אַתֶּ֥ם חֲטָאתֶ֖ם חֲטָאָ֣ה גְדֹלָ֑ה וְעַתָּה֙ אֶֽעֱלֶ֣ה אֶל־יְהֹוָ֔ה אוּלַ֥י אֲכַפְּרָ֖ה בְּעַ֥ד חַטַּאתְכֶֽם:
31And Moses returned to the Lord and said: "Please! This people has committed a grave sin. They have made themselves a god of gold. לאוַיָּ֧שָׁב משֶׁ֛ה אֶל־יְהֹוָ֖ה וַיֹּאמַ֑ר אָ֣נָּ֗א חָטָ֞א הָעָ֤ם הַזֶּה֙ חֲטָאָ֣ה גְדֹלָ֔ה וַיַּֽעֲשׂ֥וּ לָהֶ֖ם אֱלֹהֵ֥י זָהָֽב:
32And now, if You forgive their sin But if not, erase me now from Your book, which You have written." לבוְעַתָּ֖ה אִם־תִּשָּׂ֣א חַטָּאתָ֑ם וְאִם־אַ֕יִן מְחֵ֣נִי נָ֔א מִסִּפְרְךָ֖ אֲשֶׁ֥ר כָּתָֽבְתָּ:
33And the Lord said to Moses: "Whoever has sinned against Me, him I will erase from My book!" לגוַיֹּ֥אמֶר יְהֹוָ֖ה אֶל־משֶׁ֑ה מִ֚י אֲשֶׁ֣ר חָֽטָא־לִ֔י אֶמְחֶ֖נּוּ מִסִּפְרִֽי:
34And now go, lead the people to [the place] of which I have spoken to you. Behold My angel will go before you. But on the day I make an accounting [of sins upon them], I will bring their sin to account against them." לדוְעַתָּ֞ה לֵ֣ךְ | נְחֵ֣ה אֶת־הָעָ֗ם אֶ֤ל אֲשֶׁר־דִּבַּ֨רְתִּי֙ לָ֔ךְ הִנֵּ֥ה מַלְאָכִ֖י יֵלֵ֣ךְ לְפָנֶ֑יךָ וּבְי֣וֹם פָּקְדִ֔י וּפָֽקַדְתִּ֥י עֲלֵהֶ֖ם חַטָּאתָֽם:
35Then the Lord struck the people with a plague, because they had made the calf that Aaron had made. להוַיִּגֹּ֥ף יְהֹוָ֖ה אֶת־הָעָ֑ם עַ֚ל אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשׂ֣וּ אֶת־הָעֵ֔גֶל אֲשֶׁ֥ר עָשָׂ֖ה אַֽהֲרֹֽן:
@@IAO-LVX A] only .05% of the Jewish people sinned with the golden calf, and B] those who did sin, were ki!!ed. So in your trying to discredit Jews for the sins of a small group of sinners, you go against the God of Israel, in your inflated pride, you dig your own deep hole, pit.
Baruch Adonai L'Olam, Baruch Hashem for giving us Rabbi Tovia, whom I sincerely believe to be a light to the nations, bringing Jew and Gentile back to the ONLY Undisputed Lord, G-d, Savior, Redeemer, Master and Creator of the Universe, Hashem!
When you say “Bring Jew and Gentile back together” could you elaborate because I’m not to sure you’re aware of the role of Gentiles in the future to come. I do NOT claim to be a gentile. Do you?
@@marcusg6904 Gentiles means Nations.
@@marcusg6904 if you aee motna hentile then you are a jew.
And your role is to be redeemed with the rest of the world. To enjoy world peace, a personal awareness and knowledge of G-d along with everyone else on earth. You will be invited at this time of year to visit jeruswlem on succot of course. You won't be tempted to do sins on purpose andbwill be automatically operating on a much higher level. You may be lucky enough to jave padt ded relies you miss whoxare righteous who you can enjoy the messianic age with after mass risoskg of the dead.
Your role sounds weird. See we Jews are thebservants. Priestly nation men's you ate the congregation. Light yo world means you enjoy light
Your role is to experience and participate in stunning awareness o G-d, and being closer go him than anyone you know today living much more incongruence with yoir creator
You make it SOUND LIKE a conspiracy
@@terryulmer969 I responded but they removed my comment. I’m not sure why. Maybe someone is upset about my questions. 🤷🏾♂️
@Iyas kelu Gentiles actually does mean nations as well as non-jew and a few other definitions. Context is key
One cannot criticise the estimable Rabbi for trying, but it simply doesn't hold water. So much depends on "the Jews exist" and "the Bible tells me so". This is not persuasive for anybody who does not already believe it.
That said, I am very grateful, as an atheist, for the Rabbi's gentle, dogged responses to the claims of Christianity. Long may he flourish!
Mmmm, no answer from the rabbi after 6 months I think you have been too real for him.
@Mark Fulton he hardly answers in comments, why don't you call in and let's see if he can answer...
What evidence is persuasive? Some people are not persuaded by vaccines because they hold a negative bias toward the Ethos of science. Alternatively someone can have a more subjectively-oriented epistemology and you won't be able to prove certain things to that person. The Torah is one historical account of Mount Sinai. Now how many more accounts do you need? 2? 10? 1000? At what point does it become persuasive? There's a huge psychological element behind that. I personally think that the fulfillment of the highly specific and very unlikely prophecies is enough of an evidence, you can argue with that but again what is the point that you'd say "ok that's enough evidence". Let's go one step further, even if you find all the evidence in the world, perhaps the world is a solipsistic illusion that aliens created for me in order to control my mind? Who knows?
Regarding archaeology, the ancient city of Ugarit was discovered by accident in 1928. Up to a few decades ago the consensus was that David did not exist but it was disproved. More recently there were found inscriptions from the Judges period (that Yerubaal handle). There has been reasonable continuity in the overall tradition with all prominent figures documented. Kind of like Christians agree that Ezra was a prophet, but Pharisees twisted the word of God, but if we assume that children who were born at the beginning of 2nd temple knew the word of God and probably died around age 50, and on the other hand we can trace the Pharisaic schools at least to Hilel who was born about 150 years before the destruction of the 2nd temple. So that leaves 200 years for the Torah to be corrupted beyond repair by obscure figures in unreasonable conditions. So where is the point where truth becomes myth and vice versa?
Yes some things aren't to be found and I myself would base my faith on just archaeology, though, just like you don't have to have video footage of a murder, you can still convict the murderer with enough cumulative evidence, perhaps some testimonies, perhaps circumstancial evidence, etc. etc.
Now if we examine closely what the atheist said in the video, he stated that he'd want more precise scientific claims in the Torah. I think that more than it tells about the Torah it tells about his epistemology and values. Scientific achievements and information is of the highest value. But let's imagine someone who doesn't really care about science, but cares about mental state perhaps, maybe career success, or someone who's interested in aesthetics and beauty and judges the truthfulness of the Torah by the virtue of beauty. Up to a few hundred years ago nobody had problem with the idea of science and religion. Many Greek philosophers were very smart and knew some science and yet believed in a creator and perhaps worshipped some Greek gods. Some also did not. But what I claim is a shift in epistemology and values that creates a bias. Yes the Torah isn't 100% persuasive in all possible fields to all people and I don't think it has to be. Part of HaShem's love to people is not forcing them to love Him.
"because the Bible tells me so" is a reverse way of looking at it.
The Bible is believed in the first place only because the people experienced the events it describes before they were written.
For example, if you wrote a book about my life there are two options: either it's correct and thus I accept it, or it's wrong and thus I reject it.
The incorrect assumption is that a book about group A was introduced to group B who didn't know group A, and group B accepted it because why not.
It's a book about the Jewish people, written by Jews, for a Jewish audience. The fact that the Jewish audience accepted a book that describes what they themselves experienced means that the witnesses are signing their testimony.
@@Lestibournes You only (think you) know that "the people experienced the events" described in the Bible because they are written in the Bible. This is tantamout to circular reasoning.
You have no way of knowing what precisely happened in the distant past of the Jews or how long elapsed between the oral telling of tales and the writing down of those tales. Let us imagine that "Moses" wrote the first few books. How long after Adam and Eve did he do this? How did he know about these long-past events?
To me, this is still "because the Bible tells me so".
Im an atheist. Thank you rabbi for your conversation with T Jump. I always enjoy your interviews.
How do you think the world began?
@@beeyou4103 Quantum fluctuations.
Supposing that Egyptians tried to cover their defeat against God and Jewish people, it couldn't be possible to hide something like that. There would be the entire Egyptian army under the Red Sea and other nations would have heard about this defeat and would have tried to conquer Egypt because it was a fertile land. I respect rabbi Tovia Singer, I support the state of Israel. I really like Jewish culture and Israeli people, but I question the biblical accuracy.
@@beeyou4103The humble answer is "I don't know," not "insert God here."
@@rafaelecattonar1506Questioning is the best thing one can do. Out of polytheism came monotheism. Biblical truth is different than historical fact.
Very informative and respectful discussion. Thank you
Thank you, Ravi, I ask that Hashem Barechu will bless you and give you a long and blessed life for helping to bring HIS lost sheep back to the fold and being an instrument of his loving promise! Praise be to Hashem for his love he has always, and will always remember us!
As someone with incredibly different views I am incredibly impressed by Rabbi Tovia’s ability to defend his positions.
We love you Rabbi Tovia. Keep bringing light to the world
What a great video. Great questions! Great answers! I could only just say WOW at the end 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ToviaSinger1 It's sad how you partner with atheists who dehumanize Jews but you criticize Christians who genuinely love them.
@@ToviaSinger1 Dear Rabbi, thank you so much for your personal reply. Just wanted to let you know I have been listen to your youtube videos for probably close to 2 years now. I will be 64 in November. I spent a good 50 years in Christian churches. Because of what I have learned from you (and several others) I am no longer a Christian. I embrace Judaism... I am eternally grateful to you! And I look forward to learning more and more each and every day!!! :-) May God Bless you and your family Greatly!!!🙏
Not impressed by his questions
@@eliezerdecastro2002 He must be paying Rabbi Singer very well.
Rabbi, I can't believe how my heart is shaken from your words..I feel like a fool for 57 yrs of not evening search, but Abba will get it too you..Thank you from the bottom of my Soul...I bought my Tanakh 10.31.22..I kissed it and said thank you God..I'm have to call off work today...this truly an Emergency when you Belief just get thrown out the window 🪟...I'm just kissing 💋 the Hebrew text...thank you
Wishing you a happy and kosher Passover.
Llpp
Many of us feel as you do,millions ,do ,however ,however HaShem knows your heart, but this is nothing to take for granted,,,watch Ceasars Messiah , you understand more, u believable how all this happened all under the heading of power! But the Torah is the truth, get the volume let's get biblical you will love it .
This is hilarious, these man made religions are fake. If there is a God, it’s definitely not the God of the Hebrew Bible. I do enjoy watching this program for a better historical understanding of the religion and people.
{And We certainly showed favour to Moses and Aaron,
and delivered them and their people from the great distress.
We helped them so it was they who prevailed.
We gave them the clear Scripture,
and guided them to the Straight Path.
And We blessed them among later generations,
Peace be upon Moses and Aaron.
Indeed, this is how We reward the good-doers.
They were truly of Our faithful servants.}
{The ones who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whose description they find in their Torah and the Gospel. He commands them to do good and forbids them from evil, permits for them what is lawful and forbids to them what is impure, and relieves them from their burdens and the shackles that bound them. Those who believe in him, honour and support him, and follow the light sent down to him will be successful.
Say, “O humanity, I am God's Messenger to you all. To Him belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. There is no god except Him. He gives life and causes death.”
So believe in God and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believes in God and His revelations. And follow him, so you may be guided.}
I was an atheist for about 15 years. Rabbi Tovia Singer helped me come back to spirituality
Gentiles are obligated to keep the Torah's 7 Noahide commandments. Good luck.
My congratulations to you. You can see the atheist here cracking in his certainty.
Welcome back to life brother. Without the one true G-d and His teachings this life is a strange acid trip, not in a good way.
@@anissueofursinceritynot really
@@1995yudaI always thought the exact opposite: A god would make existence strange and pointless. I would have never agreed to share a world with a deity.
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I can see where this young man would be confused by the writings of the New Testament but Not with The Torah.
I have already watched this interview but it's never enough to listen to the rabbi. With a bit of delay, happy High holidays!!! 🌞
The guy was looking to question and deny all your answers. Was not listening to anything you said only to deny everything afterwards
I agree what a headache
He is in quest
They're all programmed to debate exactly like that. To push their religion on everybody
answers given didn't convince him
@@jean-paulmaillet4670 he wasnt there to get answers.he was there to argue with him...everyone with a brain can see that and the Rabbi knew it and was pretty kind to him ..
Thank you so much Rabbi!
Please please do more of these
It's possible to be an atheist after watching this BUT how can anyone believe in xtrianity after watching this? Xtrianity is diametrically opposed to the original Bible
We don't even know if Moses existed, or an Exodus happened.
We don't know who wrote the Torah! It's only been labeled to Moese by tradition. Moses doesn't say he wrote the text!
These are just a compilation of ancient documents, written by superstitious men, before the time of modern-day science.
See how all ancient cultures believed on a type of God / gods, but know with science, we have a better understanding of things.
Well of coarse Christianity is because it's entirely pagan.
@@deanlangenfeld495 Who says Moses compiled it? Tradition?
Tradition also says Matthew wrote Mattew, etc, etc.
Did Moses even EXIST?
@@deanlangenfeld495 the entire Greek testament is pagan yes.
@@DavidAmis2005 Who said Moses compiled it? Moses said he did.
Even though I'm not Jewish, I have a lot of respect for Rabbi Singer here.
Gentiles are obligated to keep the Torah's 7 Noahide commandments. Good luck.
@@hrvatskinoahid1048 Seems easy enough.
I like him too but it’s mostly mythology.
This gentleman reminds me of my brother who is also an atheist and speaks just like him. My brother says he only believes in science. He just had a surgery because of colorectal cancer. While he was in the hospital, I kept on praying for HaShem, blessed is He, to show my brother His glory like He did to me when I prayed 46 years ago with a broken heart, to the Almighty God, Creator of the universe, and he showed me His Hebrew Name and brought me to the Sanctuary in the desert where the Ark of the Covenant was. At that time I had never heard, seen, or experienced such thing because I had never read the Torah or Bible. I didn't know anything about the Hebrew or Jewish people. It took me 35 years, after researching what was the meaning for this revelation. Well, it was the four letter Hebrew Name of HaShem and the rest is self explanatory. The Creator of the universe, showed me who He was and what He wanted me to do. I later found out that my ancestors were from Sephardic Jews coming from the tribe of Reuven. How could anyone ever explain this?
Amazing! Glory glory 🙏
@@Baa975 are Jewish or Muslim?
You’re smoking crack and scared of death and not having purpose in life
Hello rabbi you really crushed it I love everything you do and we should have a משיח במהרה בימינו
No he means crushed it as in crushed any hope that xtianity or atheism could ever truly exist.
First of all, "The Jewish Bible" is a misnomer. If the Bible is historically accurate, which I am not saying it is, then the first five books are "The Hebrew Bible" or "The Children of Israel Bible", which encompasses a LOT more than descendants of the Tribe of Judah or of the eventual (thousands of years later) Southern Tribe of Judah, or Judea.
Secondly, i have always had a problem with Samuel I and Samuel II and all the subsequent books of the so-called Old Testament since it tried to change the Hebrew faith into a supposed Judaic, or Jewish, faith. But they are practically two different religions!! And to hear this supposed rabbi, or teacher, call the books of the Bible, starting with Genesis, as "The Jewish Bible" is completely wrong and ingenuous of him.
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome it depends on what you think is truth.
If you believe Torah( tanakh ) is written by Gd then yeah...every religion is wrong.
We are ( judaism) is the only theocratic system on the planet. We are the only people in history that claim national revelation and that's really hard to fake.
If it was so easy then everyone would have done it in antiquity.
But they didn't. Individual revelation yes...they are a dime a dozen.
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome really ?? Yiu can't figure out what national revelation means?? Go get a dictionary. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you slay me.
Wow...the stupidity of some people...im surprised you can't even text.. does your mommy have to do it for you??
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome you attack my family history then get what you got coming.
I owe you @%#% for an explanation on anything and if you Don't like it too bad damn bad. There isn't one Israeli that owes you anything.
"As for Me, I love who loves Me, and those who search for Me, shall find Me" Proverbs 8:17. All depends what is in the person's heart/how honest they are. Two types of people who will claim to be "Truth Seekers", those who look for how things might make sense, and those who instead seek for how things might not make sense. The agenda in the 1st persons heart is a genuine desire for truth, while the agenda in the 2nd person's heart is to find reasons not to believe in something. The person who seeks for how things might make sense, although still being critical, will still amass tremendous amounts of life-wisdom and Grand Truth's as they journey through life, since their minds are open and see things connect and testify to grander concepts and truths. However, the person who seeks for how things might NOT make sense, will in the end be left with absolutley nothing/zero actual meaning, since their agenda was always ever seeking holes to poke/closing their minds off, and not to actually seek a Grander Truth/how it is obvious that there is meaning to life, as opposed to the claim that there is no order/that reality is a soup-bowl of randomness/zero meaning, emotional and intellectual insanity.
Keep adding and subtracting it’s clear to see that you seek to feed your ego/Hastan…….where’s Your alter ego Raizel today ? LMFAOOOOO
@@IAO-LVX I am not raizel, you egomaniac, listen to my video's and then go listen to raizels narration videos. You need help.
@@Yehonatan613 blah blah blah
@@Yehonatan613 you need help you sick twisted necromancer who has a sick and twisted infatuation with a man’s supposed torture and murder 2000 years ago…..
@@Yehonatan613 And just 4 the record you have a problem with christianities churches ie the idols the graven images the symbolic necromancy the fact that they Havnt even read the actual old or new testaments where it’s clear that they’re in violation of the teachings of God, that’s fine with me as I’ve stated I have broken destroyed and tossed idols and graven images in the trash, I once beat up a necromancer and through his necronomicon in the trash as well so you don’t know my life or my journey, I follow YHVH with all my heart soul and strength and that’s more reason why I’ve fought for the truth, but stop disrespecting Jesus….Jesus was Jewish Jesus never built a church everything that happened with that rat Constantine and the Creed of Nicea and subsequent church idiots and all that whole synagogue of Hasatan don’t blame Jesus, Jesus never instructed that or taught that…..pbuh
LET THOSE THAT HAVE EYES SEE AND THOSE THAT HAVE EARS HEAR !!
EH HEH YEH
YHVH ELOHIM
YHVH ELOHA VE DA’ATH
SHAIDAI EL HAI
ADONAI HA’ARETZ
This was a very interesting talk to listen to, as your videos are Rabbi.
One thing that came to my mind during your talk was a film/documentary series called Patterns of Evidence, I saw it while I was looking into Christianity (I never became a Christian), but listening to the academics interview in that series was still interesting. It gave a good perspective of how archeologist disagree and what a wast world archeology is. For me at least it seems, having seen the video series, that there are evidence for the exodus and the more archeologists dig there will probably be more evidence.
If anyone reads this, I hope you will have a sweet and prosperous new year! ❤
This might answer some questions
Watch the video
riddle of the Exodus (one hour documentary)
I saw that patterns of evidence in fact I saw the second one the follow up. Tubitv I think is where I watched it.
The great dul qarnayn swam nuweiba beach and he didn’t become Christian either, but not everyone can have yacov rambsel’s testimony.
Thank You So Very Much Rabbi Tovia Singer 💛
The authenticity of Moses is based on the public revelation at Sinai: God revealed Himself to the entire nation of Israel, at least three million people, and proclaimed before them the Ten Commandments. The entire Jewish people personally experienced that revelation, each individual in effect becoming a prophet, and each one verifying the experience of the other. With their own eyes they saw, and with their own ears they heard, as the Divine voice spoke to them, and also they heard God saying, "Moses, Moses, go tell them the following ..." They did not receive the occurrence of that event and accept it as some claim or tradition of an individual, but they experienced it themselves. That public revelation, therefore, authenticated the bona fide status of Moses as a prophet of God, and the Divine origin of the instructions he recorded in the Torah. That, and that alone, is the criterion for the belief in, and acceptance of, Moses and his teachings.
Great great to hear wonderful words
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome belief isn't proof or verification. Clues yes
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome The Jewish people have an unbroken historical tradition to the very time of Moses.
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome Jews know their history. You do not.
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome there is quite a bit to verify it. Told at same time in text right there no one 3mekse will rise with same claim. Which is true. There are like 2000 religions today and no one dares try such a claim. And it is defiently a stronger claim than what we see elsewhere. Just you vant hey people to start believing that out of no where. Nit a large group like that. This is literal evidence. Perfect definition of evidence.
...HaShem did not create the universe to prove Who He is....HaShem created the universe so you could prove who you are.
Ah’mein HalleluYAH
I like that. I may borrow that on occasion.👍
Nicely said!!
He made us to glorify and worship him. For who are we compared to him?
That's a 💯🤺
Rabbi Lawrence Keleman gives a brilliant and masterful explanation of this in his lecture " A Rational approach to the Torah's Divine Origin " a must for anyone seeking an erudite and logical basis for belief in the authenticity of the Torah.
Fred was one helluva con artist to fool that many people haha.
Classic lecture that really helps with doubt on exodus. Rabbi Chaim Shores HNV research that proves the hebrew language is programmed with scientific information is already more than enough to prove the exodus naararive however.
@@scleless1342 - LOL Unfortunately the Freds have managed to bamboozle the majority ... thank you , will look that up too... !!!
I love both TJump and Rabbi Tovia Singer. This was a great conversation. 👍
So refreshing to see calm, intelligent discussion and debate.
This is not a debate. It is a monologue using some random clips with questions which he doesn't even answer.
INTELIGENT DISCUSIÓN 🤔!???
Well done Rabbi!
Like many atheists who debate online, Tjump (Tom), was not very familiar with several religious issues and some of the relevant science.
Rabbi Singer quickly picked up on this & provided excellent answers.
1. Rabbi brought up that the supernatural came into our world and this was observed by an entire nation during the Exodus.
- Tom, countered that Columbus predicted an eclipse.
* Poor comparison by Tom. As mentioned by Rabbi Singer, an eclipse is a natural event. That is not the same as the supernatural events which occurred during the Exodus.
2. Rabbi brought up DNA markers to connect populations in Africa with the Jewish people.
- Tom stated that DNA markers are so widespread that people today cannot be connected to very old populations.
* Several DNA tests can find genetic markers for the Jewish people who often tended to live in separate communities. These tests include; MyHeritage DNA, 23andMe, Ancestry, iGENEA & LivingDNA.
These DNA testing companies can trace ancestries & ethnicities back hundreds of years. The science of DNA testing is continuously improving.
3. Rabbi correctly stated that archeology is not a hard science. It is based on the current evidence which can quickly change.
- Tom stated that Moses was a myth.
* Rabbi correctly countered that science cannot prove that Moses did not exist. That is not how science works.
The evidence for the accuracy of the Jewish scriptures can change every year.
Significant recent discoveries have happened. Like the ancient Jewish scriptures in the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Ketef Hinnom scroll.
The Tel Dan Stele with the “House of David” inscription, dated to the ninth century BCE (from 900 to 801 BCE);
Sun dried mudbrick, mentioned in the Book of Exodus, found to be the most common construction material employed in ancient Egypt during pharaonic times;
The Amarna letters primarily consisting of diplomatic correspondence between Egypt and its representatives in Canaan and neighboring kingdoms, during the New Kingdom, between c. 1360-1332 BCE which requested military help in the north against Hittite invaders, and in the south to fight against the Habiru. Since the discovery of these 2nd millennium BCE inscriptions mentioning the Habiru, there have been many theories linking these to the Hebrews of the Bible.
4. Tom countered that archeologists were looking for artifacts which were mentioned in the Bible.
* Why not? If ancient sites were examined in Central America, archeologists would expect to find relics of the ancient peoples who lived there including the Mayans.
In the Sinai and Israel, ancient sites would often have relics from the ancient Israelites which is the case. That is a logical expectation.
5. Tom compared the pagan god Thor with God.
* This is a misunderstanding that a minor god is not the same as God.
God is the most powerful entity which the human mind struggles to comprehend as presented in the Book of Job (believed to be the oldest book in the Jewish scriptures).
6. Rabbi Singer stated that God through the prophets made predictions and that these came true.
- Tom said the Jewish Bible predictions were like saying that there would be a dog.
* The nation of Israel is not close to being a dog. Dogs are common animals which have continuously lived for thousands of years.
The Jewish people had everything going against them. Decade after decade they were either slaughtered or persecuted.
But they survived against all that opposition and today they have reestablished their nation. Imo it’s a miracle.
7. Tom said that ancient scriptures needed to be science text books or technology manuals.
- Rabbi Singer properly countered this by saying 20th/21st century science would be useless for people living thousands of years ago.
* Tom is bringing out the old ancient astronaut theory where we are supposed to find advanced tech or advanced scientific information.
We don’t need to find that from the words of God because the people 3,000 years ago didn’t need it.
Well, who knows, knows! ✌️
1. The comparison is not that bad. Just as the Eclipse predicted by Columbus was a natural event, I would claim it is likely that if anything occurred on Mount Sanai it was also a natural event, was still perceived by an entire nation as supernatural just the same as the eclipse.
2. Tom did not say you could not be connected to old populations. He said that connecting to an old population or a common ancestor does not show that the ancestor was in fact Moses/Aaron.
3. Tom did not state that. He said that he thought historical consensus of scholars considered Moses to be a myth. Which Rabbi basically said "nu-uh only among secularists."
Historically verifying some minor details, does not get us closer to confirming that not only did a Moses-like figure exist, but it existed exactly as described by the Torah. We should lower our confidence in ancient history because of how bad the evidence is for it, because we know it will change when we discover new evidence. The fact is that in that time period, embellishment and worse is found and to be expected in written works.
5. It makes no difference if you think one is just a minor god. Tom is just expressing that he is convinced that just as people wrote about Thor interacting with them, even though none of us believe Thor interacted with them, people similarly wrote about Yahweh interacting with them. I have no good reason to believe it either.
6. Yes, vague, statistically insignificant predictions. If thousands of civilizations predict they will survive, and 999 of them don't, the fact that the 1 of them that did survive predicted it, has no significance.
7. Tom did not say this. Tom said predicting some significant things that Humanity had yet to discover would be great evidence. Rabbi Tovah did not answer this well. On one hand Tovah is saying that this would not matter for people of the time. On the other hand he is saying this book is supposed to be for all people of all time. Which is it? Why not both?
It would have been no hindrance to the people of Israel if there was a chapter on "things you will not yet understand but your descendants will discover about the Lord your God's creation." That over time, Humanity can constantly re-confirm that the Author of this Book did indeed have extensive God-like knowledge of the universe, rather than the writings just appearing to be that of some standard desert dwellers thousands of years ago with no special knowledge.
@@Tinesthia Very well stated Jesse.
1. @@Tinesthia wrote; "Just as the Eclipse predicted by Columbus was a natural event, I would claim it is likely that if anything occurred on Mount Sanai it was also a natural event"
* As I wrote;
"an eclipse is a natural event. That is not the same as the supernatural events which occurred during the Exodus."
- One example; Exodus 24:10;
“9 And Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel ascended,
10 and they perceived the God of Israel, and beneath His feet was like the forming of a sapphire brick and like the appearance of the heavens for clarity.”
* Not a natural event like a lunar eclipse.
2. @Jesse King wrote; "He said that connecting to an old population or a common ancestor does not show that the ancestor was in fact Moses/Aaron."
* I wrote;
"Several DNA tests can find genetic markers for the Jewish people who often tended to live in separate communities."
* From the video; at 18:06 from Tom;
"The genealogy, the Y chromosome markers that you mentioned, those, there are a Y chromosome markers in every culture, every culture of people has Y chromosome markers, famously like Attila the Hun has, Y chromosome markers of his lineage that cover like a quarter of the planet. And like 70% of Asia which is quite phenomenal. Interesting at least.
But I don't think that indicates for example that you are in a lineage specifically like Moses or something."
* Genetic markers can trace an ancestry back to Attila the Hun but not Moses/Aaron? I don't think one can make that claim based on science.
* As I wrote;
"Rabbi correctly countered that science cannot prove that Moses did not exist. That is not how science works."
3. @Jesse King wrote; "He said that he thought historical consensus of scholars considered Moses to be a myth."
* Those are scholars not scientists.
Discoveries from the last 200 years in archeology have shown that people and place existed which scholars once believed did not exist.
* As I wrote;
"Rabbi correctly stated that archeology is not a hard science. It is based on the current evidence which can quickly change."
* The physical evidence which supports the historicity of the Jewish scriptures has gone back further and further in time as newer discoveries are made.
I believe the most accurate scientific answer about Moses, Aaron, Joshua and the Exodus currently is that we don't know.
5. @Jesse King wrote; "It makes no difference if you think one is just a minor god."
* Of course it does. A God which is involved in the entire universe which famous philosophers have contemplated and discussed is not the same as a local thunder god.
6. @Jesse King wrote; "Yes, vague, statistically insignificant predictions. If thousands of civilizations predict they will survive, and 999 of them don't, the fact that the 1 of them that did survive predicted it, has no significance."
* Just the opposite. Successful predictions are the foundation of significance.
* 7. I wrote;
"Tom said that ancient scriptures needed to be science text books or technology manuals."
7. @Jesse King wrote; "Tom did not say this."
* From the video; at 17:46 from Tom;
"Whereas if I wrote, if I was the creator of the universe, I would include things that would continue to be discovered throughout time, and artificial intelligence would be in there, going to Mars would be in there, and those kinds of things, things that we would expect to see confirmed."
* To explain artificial intelligence and going to Mars to people in the bronze age would require an extensive education at a university level in our world. A document which attempted to that would be a science text book or technology manual.
A person who has studied multiple sciences at a university level (like me) would understand that.
In addition it helps to have a strong knowledge of history and culture.
@Jesse King wrote; "On the other hand he (Rabbi Singer) is saying this book is supposed to be for all people of all time."
* It is a fact that our modern forms of government and our laws of morality were influenced by concepts in the Jewish scriptures.
@Jesse King wrote; "It would have been no hindrance to the people of Israel if there was a chapter on "things you will not yet understand but your descendants will discover about the Lord your God's creation.""
* More ancient astronaut point of view.
The most valuable information for more primitive cultures is moral instruction.
The study of anthropology could give some insights into that.
@@bb1111116
How very well laid out and readable of you. However often missing the points.
1. It has been said "I witnessed the snake Apep attacking the boat of the sun God" Not a natural event in description, except it is a natural solar eclipse as described by ancient ignorant people. The same could be said for this event in Exodus if it occurred at all.
2. Again, tom didn't say you can't connect to populations via genetic markers, as you quoted, he said people can. Individuals are not populations. Atilla is far more recent and talked about even by hostile contemporary sources. This isn't true for accounts of Moses. Turns out family history is easier to track when it is thousands of years closer. Confidence in direct ancestry to specific people that long ago should be low though, even well-known historical figures.
3. Again Tom didn't say Moses was an outright myth, just that he thought that was consensus among scholars. No one claimed this was some scientific proof against Moses. Most of us are happy to say we don't know, but I doubt you would convince Tovia to say that. "He knows His people's history!"
5. The type of God doesn't matter for the point being made. Missing the point is another issue.
6. Then I predict the sun will rise tomorrow! How significant if it happens! Uhh nope. I think a truly strong prophecy should meet these criteria: Specific and not open to interpretation, has an end date, and can't be known by the subject of the prophecy until after it is fulfilled.
7. Include the moral instruction for the more primitive cultures, and also include the important stuff for future scientifically enlightened cultures. Again: Either it is a book for all peoples of all times or it isn't. This is not a request for it to be a Science book. It is a request for it to make relevant predictions that would show the author has God-like knowledge.
Archaeology is an important factor in this discussion. "Has Archaeology Buried the Bible" by William Dever and "The Bible Unearthed" by Israel Finklestein and Niel Silberman. On the archaeological evidence, Finkelstein and Silberman conclude, "By the end of the twentieth century, archaeology had shown that there were simply too many
material correspondences between the finds in Israel and in the entire Near East and the world described in the Bible to suggest that the Bible was late and
fanciful priestly literature, written with no historical basis at all. But at the same time there were too many contradictions between archaeological finds and the
Biblical narratives to suggest that the Bible provided a precise description of what actually occurred." (pp.19-21).
Tovia Singer is the best at showing contradictions in the New Testament, not sure he scrutinizes the Torah as much.
Prayers for Rabbi Singer ...more good Angels around him and his family and our people. May HaShem bring more of His own back to Him and His Ways.
Great respect to Rabbi Tovia from Egypt ✓
Rabbi to atheists at 21.38: You cant prove that something didnt exist.
Blessings to you from Jerusalem my Egyptian friend.
@@1995yuda
Thanks bro!
Praying for you at night 🌉
May God make Jerusalem soon, the city of peace, that all peoples can learn from, the uniting, and reconciling force that Abrahamic monothiesm can be for humanity.
May God make all sons of Adam and Eve soon one.. In an open world..
With Jerusalem at the center of it's history ✨
Amen, أمين ، 阿门，אָמֵן
@@goingmonotheist783 Powerful words brother! Thank you so much! I join you in your prayer, and hope the blessings you've given Israel will be shared on Egypt as well. G-d bless you!
Amen, أمين ، 阿门，אָמֵן
May God hear from each of your hearts and minds! Worship God and praise only God! Trust in the fact God exists and God knows you exist! ...God knows what all need and want! ...seek truth from rabbi tovia singer to get closer to God!
Atheists are always wrong. And they are pessimistic.
Like both gentlemen here, TJump was respectful to the Rabbi, if anyone has watched his videos knows what I mean by that
Rabbi Singer is a gift from HaShem.
You, have saved a lot of people thank you Rabbi.
If they're still going to die then he didn't save them.
As an atheist I really respect rabbi singer. I wish he would debate a more knowledgeable atheist. This wasn't really a challenge.
Agree, it’s staged
No atheists on their death bed, no atheists in an air raid shelter,
Love this video Rabbi Singer.
Thank you Rabbi Singer for the abundance of knowledge you share The guy arrogancy and complete ignorance of the obvious truth which he did not searched out speaks nonsense but the lie he accepted is to his own destruction. Excellent video
I'm a lifelong atheist, but I really love Tovia's commentary on scripture. Internal consistency is important to a belief system.
I have not heard the Rabbi suggest any reason why we should believe his "God" is real. And even if he is real, what is there to suggest He is the Absolute God?
The Being in the Torah seldom if ever behaves in ways that allow us to say He is Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent.
HAPPY SUKKOT
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To help your point Rabbi Tovia Singer : Prophesies for our generations
Isaiah 60:8
[8]Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows? (AIRPLANES & AIRPORTS)
Daniel 12:4
[4]But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
This atheist guy brutally embarrassed himself and atheism in his debate with Daniel Haqiqatjou
The Jews returning to Israel is a great example of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Rabbi dodged the question of lack of archaeological evidence of the Exodus. He just used the Bible said so as his evidence which is what he criticizes Christians do. I need more from him on this.
Patterns of Evidence: Exodus
I believe the story is found on Egyptian walls. They have found evidence at bottom of sea, where Egypt was destroyed. Then when you go into the prophets and they are being directed by what took place with Moses they make many huge prophecies that have happened like Cyrus letting Israel go free. That was written before it happened. There is enough evidence knowing we have a creator and are here for a purpose it would make sense he would reveal himself to a people to shine to the world changing it into a holy place for him.
Good video. So many of them want something for atheists but the beautiful passionate speech is targeting Jews and christians perfectly 👌 gave R Singer a sea to choose from with that intro. Rhank you
Even R Singer's oast videos alone hasbso much in them he could of used so much easier in debates when you are jewish and not something else
I think a lack of truly understanding free will is a source of atheism among some individuals.
Yes too many people do not understand how there is both free will and determination simultaneously co existing with no issue. They see the problem and assume there is no answer without thinking through how it could be otherwise
@@goldengun9970 Yes! I could be wrong but they just don’t get it
I disagree. I haven't run into many theist that understand freewill from a philosophical standpoint. There is an inherent problem with deterministic versus random. Any atheist that is well schooled in philosophy understands this. Could be why so many philosophers are atheist.
@@strwman5 as a jew I can tell you when we learnt about free will itbwas when we were 11 or 12. Blew our minds for a few days till we had it explained properly and got ot from then on. No contradiction to having free will and having G-d planning all. The issue isn't about actually changing G-d's plans. We are worried about the person deserving the merit of making a choice. While I cant control my situation I do get choices and nothing physically forces me what yo do. I go through emotion and think sboit if and decide myself and overcome instincts to do otherwise myself.
The same as if I had a real crystal ball and knew what you would do tonight me knowing wouldnt change that you had a choice to choose yoirself and you honestly andntruly expressed your will and yourself
Your comment is confusing & makes no sense at all.
I noticed that every time I saw a secular dating of the Exodus they put a year that is at least a century off when compared to the Jewish traditional chronology, then say that the Exodus couldn't have happened because that year doesn't fit. I've never seen anyone seriously examine the actual year of the Exodus according to the Jewish calendar.
Let's wake up the atheist too
The Torah that was revealed to Moses is a divine book, however the Tanakh in existence today differs by so much from the actual original Torah.
You can tell from the stories and the language used that the tanakh's divinity is questionable.
Thank you Tovia 💯♥️
He defends his faith well. That said, he completely ignores the argument that T made justifying the 'minimalist' view of secular scholars... Would love to hear why there's no archeological evidence of the exodus, the flood, the years in the desert or the parting of the sea. Jesus, I mean the parting of the sea is the perfect thing where we'd 10000% find chariots, coins, bones etc in the sediment on the floor of the red sea. If that isn't explicit disconfirmation, nothing will be.
Still, their faith and strong beliefs have made them one of the strongest ethnic groups in the world and for that, they should have pride.
It’s so crazy to me that this guy like most secular people will believe Hindus, Indians, etcetera but never find it odd what Tovia was conveying to him about how peoples around the world deny Jewish history…..every bit of it! Both ancient and present!
Atheists are lefties and hate Judaism and Christianity, the foundations of the western world.
The interesting thing is the Hindu scripture was 200 million years off the generally accepted age of the earth. So it might be impressive to get that close but it is certainly not accurate for today.
@@Robert-ne4xd “There is never someone so blind as the one who refuses to see”. This guy is not looking for truth. He’s looking to argue and he’s so dumb that he actually believes himself to be a great intellectual 😂 lol.
@@Robert-ne4xd yes but Judaism called the number of stars in the universe at 10 to the 19th, an impossible guess. It MUST have been divine.
Not really the case. He was just using the Hindus as an example of something they seemed to have gotten correct.
Would denying the story of Romulus be considered denying part of Italian history? What about not believing in King Arthur? Does that deny British history? If I don't believe George Washington really cut down a cherry tree am I denying U.S. history?
Rabbis will use "secular historians" all the time to support the historical event of The Shoah but when the same "secular historians" declare that the events in Shemot are mythical not historical then those same "secular historians" (that use a process for these things) have an agenda.
I really, really enjoy listening to Rabbi Tovia Singer. So, this question is in no way a negative response or statement. If the Torah says that G-d is making the nation of Israelites a light to the world, and we all know a light is meant to shine, how come we don’t see top Rabbis speaking out against war, like the invasion of Ukraine. With all the communications ability and the social media outlets, why is it mostly, if not always political leaders who speak up and against such horrors? To be fair I will also put that question towards Christian spiritual leaders. If any religious entity claims their truth, then why don’t they really shine that truth? They must speak out, LOUDLY against war, bigotry, and injustice! Where ever it occurs in our world. But it seems that all you see is a defensive about their given religion being the correct one. I don’t care if it’s the Jewish religion, or the Christian religion, or the Muslim religion, etc…etc… LOVE must be the foundation! Aren’t we all, G-D’s children? G-d’s creation? If any religious persuasion claims to be a light to the world…then shine!! Truly shine what G-d is…which is LOVE! Thank you.
Thank you Rabbi Tovia. For atheists I would suggest the books “Revolution”/“The Coming Revolution” by Rabbi Zamir Cohen (there are 4 books, but I think only the first got translated from Hebrew). Also his 6 books series on “Bible Archaeology”. and to understand how powerful the claim of mount Siani revelation I highly recommend to see on TH-cam “Rational Approach To Divine Origin of Judaism” by Rabbi Kelemen. He has another great video on TH-cam “Rational Approach To the Divinity of the Oral Tradition”.
Enjoy :)
Rabbi Keleman has an agenda. I recommend you watch Dr. Christine Hayes. A very trusted scholar on the subject of Judaism. An expert in Talmud, and she’s not even Jewish. The majority of scholars say that there was a man who existed named Moses Ramses. Note Moses, Aaron, and pinchas are all Egyptian names.
Hello @@B1G_ChUnG5 , “majority of scholars say…”
this is exactly what Rabbi Kelemen debunks in his video.
Please watch it and tell how would you counter that.
@@fmtjunk Name one thing he debunks with arguments.
Hello @@eurech, He debunks the claim that there was a middle man that gave the Torah to the Jews.
See the video on TH-cam “Rational approach to divine origin of Judaism”
@@fmtjunk Oy vey. I’ve seen it years ago. I used to think he had a very good argument. However I have friends in Israel who are archaeologists and all of them most definitively agree that Jews were never slaves in Egypt as there is no evidence for it whatsoever. Judaism evolved from paganism. with Yahweh at the core of its beliefs who was a Canaanite god. Only later in the Tanach around the books of Isaiah do we se a change and then Judaism becomes monotheistic in nature.
Where is the evidence for this claim that that there was an unbroken chain going all the way back to Moses? And wouldn’t it technically be Aharon since Moshe had a speech impediment? Who knows, one thing we do know is that Judaism started out very pagan i.e. sacrificing animals, Worshipping a pagan deity, etc. Sorry for being such a skeptic, but God or whoever gave me a brain to question everything. Deomnibus dubitandum, is the way it should be, and not just believe simply because someone wrote it in a book. like RAMBAM says.
This guy should consider reading two books “the indisputable truth” and “the coming revolution” by rabbi Zamir Cohen
Props to him for speaking the truth about Ethiopian Jews. Because a lot of Caucasian Jews deny them or tried to deny them their lineage and acted in a very racist manner towards those people who just so happen to be their brothers in blood
I've never heard a Jew deny Ethiopian Jews. They are Kohanim.
@@zaharabardavid I could be mistaken. But I've definitely heard about the atrocities done against the Ethiopian Jews. And I know for the longest time they wouldn't let them anywhere near Israel which they had a right to habitat. I'm in the car right now but when I get home I'll try to find the article and Link it to you
R Singer was in israel with Ethiopian rabbis making a video when a bishop plumber guy said publicly he is coming to israel to convert them thinking with same colour of skin he may have advantage. Ethiopians rabbis were angry at plumber. you can find that on youtube easily if you like
@@goldengun9970 I'm not exactly sure of the context of the statement you made. Maybe I'm slow but I don't get what you're trying to convey to me
@@robertwatley5249 you said in your original comment above props to Jim with regards to Ethiopian Jews. So I thought you may possibly be interested to see a video of rabbi singer in israel visiting and supporting at the time several Ethiopian rabbis. It was because there was this black American guy called Bishop Plimber come to evangelise and convert Jews in israel. He publicly said due to having same skin colour as Ethiopians he thought he may have chance to convert them easier with shared culture those are bishop plumber's words.
In the video those Ethiopian rabbis re very happy with Tabbi Singers supoort but very very angry at the bishop plumber guy l. They had forced conversion and persecution and hell from christians for hundreds of years in Ethiopia. And how date he think he can come to israel and convert them and that colour of skin colour would be relevant.
No one has been able to scientifically explain why Mount Horeb is blakenned.
No one can explain why there is brimstone with over 90% purity around the dead sea.
This guy didn't study Torah and certainly didn't check what secrets there are in Torah like the professor from Ben Gurion University about how the gematria of the moon, sun and more are more accurate than NASA's calculations
Proof?
Hahaahahhaah
@@TheAtheistLine פרופסורים חיים שור ואליהו ריפס
@@yosefgreen3130 תזמינו אותם אלינו
@@TheAtheistLine הזמנות אליך אתה צריך לשלוח
In the gospels we find Yeshua making this statement, "Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD". (Luke 13:35) Yeshua was predicting the destruction of Jerusalem because they did not recognize Him as their Messiah. Some individuals did but not the leaders and nation as a whole.
Jesus is idolatry! One God....10 commandments
Thank you, Rabbi.
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Rabbi can you pray for my Grandmother Carolyn Hodge? She was diagnosed with what they believe to be cancer but I believe God can heal her
Thank You So Much
My questions for the Rabbi would be,
1. Why do prominent Jewish scholars in Israel deny that the Exodus happened?
2. How do you explain the several failed prophecies in the Torah?
3. Does the Torah prophecy that Christianity would emerge as a "bastard" branch of Judaism and be a deep thorn in Israel's side?
Rabbi
What do you make of the film
“Patterns of Evidence “
Tim Mahoney
Watch the video riddle of the Exodus (one hour documentary)
It will fill in gaps from the Jewish perspective
The most important is this when messiah come (is not jesus) , he destroy all religions of earth, that's greatest message ever
Says you, so you think
Should of seen the difference in for example like isaiah text being altered claims till dead sea scrolls found and shut them up.
27:00 - The lack of evidence doesn't mean much yet. It just means we don't know enough and need to study more. Our knowledge is very limited and it's far too early to make definitive determinations. Every few decades there's a major shift in the understanding of the past, rearranging dynasties, moving the timeline.
For example, the gradualism in building dwellings could be explained by simply saying that the people first dwelled in tents or shacks and only gradually built more permanent structures, or that they moved into the cities that they conquered after killing or driving off the previous inhabitants. As to the lack of food in the desert, that has a miraculous explanation.
It would also be helpful if he was more specific in regards to these arguments. Was he talking about not enough food in the desert, or not enough food in Egypt, or not enough food in Canaan?
So of course I expect people to think logically. However, the available logic and evidence are not strong enough to shake the faith of those who rely on our nationwide tradition of national direct revelation.
Todah Rabah Rabbi. Torah is an amazing blessing to the Jewish people. Unless you study the Torah in Hebrew,you will not understand it.
A Gentile is permitted to learn from books in a language he understands.
The Jewish people moved from place to place, in the wilderness, and took their possessions with them, as there was no reason to leave their possessions in the wilderness as they needed their possessions. The Jewish people lived in tents. Also, the Jewish people were fed with manna that reigned from the ski for40 year's. The manna that God rained down for 40 year's was kept for generations in the Holy of holies, in the tabernacle and afterwards was kept in the temple. Also, the rod of Aaron that budded and bloomed blossoms and brought forth almonds, I hope that rod can be found again, as well as the ark of the covenant.
Good to see an interesting and civil debate. I admire the Jewish people for everything they have endured over the centuries and their ability to persevere through horrific persecution. Smart people too. Approximately thirty percent of Nobel Prize winners are Jewish. Wow! Still, I'm pagan and something of a Universalist. The stories of the bible don't resonate with me at all because I don't think they are for me. They are for the Jewish people. Keep up the good work Tovia. If nothing else, you are force for what truth about what the bible really says.
@Raizel רייזל Great! Thank you
Well Mr Tovia. I must say I love the fact that you use the point in time when God spoke to the entire nation at Sinai Awesome read
The Qur'an telling us about some scientific facts that has been discovered only in the last century.
In Genesis is two description of creation, how to explain it - did El or Yahweh create world , or both of them? So it's two "gods" , not only one but main one was in past El
The Atheist can't find Gd for the same reason the theif can't find the policeman.
Great lecture gentlemen!
I like that!
But theists find millions of Gods. They all claim that their God is the only true God. They also claim that the Gods of the others are false Gods. They should bring all their Gods to the arena and have a royal rumble until one God wins.
I can use that same argument for why the jews don't believe jesus was god's son or why christians and jews don't believe mohammed was the last and final prophet.
Just like a small boy atop his father's shoulders asking all he passes if they know where his father is.
No atheists on their death bed
Here things like trying to say prophecies aren't specific. That is during a debate what our side hope you say
Hashem is Our G-d. There is no other.
Thank you eternal Master, for rabbi singer, what a gift.
I think of all the miracles that have benefited me and in some cases others, I could never in my sane mind not give credit not only to my parents but also to the G-d of Israel. Many times I've felt the goose bumps of a miracle.
Beautiful interview! Thanks ❤
Awe Thankyou Tovia.
The cosmology of the creation is very advanced, as is the interpretation of humanity's place in the creation.
Great defense of the Torah and the history of the Jewish people! I remember asking this question to someone on another video but I forgot the answer. Is there any historical evidence for Moses outside of the Torah? I ask this question as a believer.
@@Shai-eg6ew But there are a lot of historical records about the Egyptian dynasties. I wonder if any ancient historical sources mention the Exodus?
@@Shai-eg6ew Why don't you believe then, Shai? What causes you to come to the conclusion that you do not believe in the revelation at Sinai?
Watch the video riddle of the Exodus (one hour documentary)
@@yosefgreen3130 Wow, looks like a great documentary! I will try and view it soon.
@@yosefgreen3130 Are you living in Israel, Yosef? Is Rabbi Seton in Israel?
I a Jewish source of wisdom, I read where there are 360 heavens and a Jerusalem in each heaven plus there is a luach for travel in Tiberias but I don't know how to make the correct use of it.
Brilliant. Well done Tovia.
He says the Hindi texts have the exact amount in years how old the world is. Do these texts update automatically every new year as the world ages?
It's not correct in the first place
The atheist demands evidence and proof, yet he just makes stuff up, says whatever he wants to say to try to support his state of denial, has no real basis for his non belief.
@@belindawolke7320 atheists always seem to be not really atheists deep down
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It's not usually a demand. Just an example of what would be better evidence than what we have.
Another great job rabbi
Are there any evil beings in the Tanakh?
@@sauloftarsus3351 yes many
First you need to understand what does evil mean in the eyes of G-D
Nebuchadnezzar is one
Read study learn
May HASHEM bless you with Torah knowledge
@@glenanleitner2606 What does evil mean in the eyes of God? Why did you go way to the book of Daniel to name an evil being in the Tanakh? Is there no evil being in the book of Genesis?
@@sauloftarsus3351 do I need to name every evil person in tanach?
Isaiah 45:7 I form light and create darkness I make peace and CREATE EVIL
I THE LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS
Stop contradicting scripture
And does this mean G-D is evil?
Ask yourself why does G-D do all this himself?
Read study learn
May HASHEM bless you with Torah knowledge
@@sauloftarsus3351 B'reshis is IN TANAKH!!
{And We certainly showed favour to Moses and Aaron,
and delivered them and their people from the great distress.
We helped them so it was they who prevailed.
We gave them the clear Scripture,
and guided them to the Straight Path.
And We blessed them among later generations,
Peace be upon Moses and Aaron.
Indeed, this is how We reward the good-doers.
They were truly of Our faithful servants.}
{The ones who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whose description they find in their Torah and the Gospel. He commands them to do good and forbids them from evil, permits for them what is lawful and forbids to them what is impure, and relieves them from their burdens and the shackles that bound them. Those who believe in him, honour and support him, and follow the light sent down to him will be successful.
Say, “O humanity, I am God's Messenger to you all. To Him belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. There is no god except Him. He gives life and causes death.”
So believe in God and His Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, who believes in God and His revelations. And follow him, so you may be guided.}
Hello Rabbi
The misunderstanding here is that even accurate and very detailed predictions of future events in whatever scripture would not necessarily require the existence of a (specific monotheistic personal)) god. In fact this specific assumption would not explain anything about the attributes of such an entity that are certain. For instance you could speculate, considering the belief of Einstein in a blockuniverse, where past, present and future exist simultaneously in a fully determined universe, and some people have some sort of access to that, or that we are living in a computer simulation (Bostrom) for that matter, or that we are part of a multiverse (Hawking) or a eternal cyclic universe, with no beginning or end (Penrose). All nothing but speculations, not validated by scientific proof, and more or less equally plausible.
Tovia! I’m yearning to ask you a question! When’s your next TenakTalk or something similar?
I believe Rabbi singer is on on Sundays , I'm not sure if it's always live but you can check in and see. good luck
@DARK KATACLYSM just move on...stop your b.s we are not interested!
@DARK KATACLYSM" You and ALL of "Christianity" have been outright LIED TO by the "blind guides" of the church, who REFUSED to learn the original Hebrew given to us by God, leaving them in profound darkness as to what God actually said to us at Mt. Sinai, which resulted in the false, pagan, man-made religion of "Christianity" that blasphemously preaches AGAINST what God said to us there!
You are confused because you've been indoctrinated by false, pagan, anti-God, anti-Jewish, hate-filled, replacement theology CHRISTIAN sources that blasphemously preach AGAINST what God said to us at Mt. Sinai. NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God after Mt. Sinai, since He specifically told us that the words that He gave to us there are ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) and that we are NOT to follow ANY OTHER teaching than what is in those Hebrew scriptures. "Christianity" IS another teaching, therefore, we are NOT to follow what it says - God's orders!
You need to realize, accept and research for yourself, that, as I said above, NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given after Mt. Sinai, making the false, pagan "NT" NOT from God, and the "OT" is only a twisted, mistranslated, taken out of context, bastardized, blasphemous VERSION of what God ACTUALLY said to us at Mt. Sinai. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "TANACH" on the cover), and learn from the Rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11. In the absence of the Temple, the Rabbis are our spiritual teachers. .
@DARK KATACLYSM The One True Creator G_d warned us about Christianity thousands of years ago. The Christian's bibles are just very badly mistranslated and corrupted versions of the Torah/Tanach, with a whole lot changed including names, a whole lot added, and a whole lot taken out. Everything that G_d said not to do, Christianity did! Christianity lies! No Hebrew/ Jew was ever named Jesus nor John nor especially James. There is no letter J in the Hebrew alephbet nor does any of the Hebrew letters even make a J sound.
@DARK KATACLYSM no one cares about your pagan bibles twisted words
of roman idolatry
Praise the Lord Rabbi Tovia Singer, our Gods (Exodus 22:28), parted the red sea, also called the gulf of Aquaba, and the Egyptian armies remains are present at the bottom with their chariots and horse remains.
To help your point Rabbi Tovia Singer :
Job 26:7
[7]He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. (Pre-Torah, and Pre-telescopes or any scientific instruments)
Atheists 0 =1
Jews and Muslims 1 = 1
Christians 1+1+1=1
Christian, infinity divided by 3 is infinity
1×1×1 =1 multiplication is greater than addition
Allah ma'a Kalimatihi wa ruhihi ilahun wahidun, laa tsalatsatu alihah
Allah with His word and His Spirit is one God, Not Three gods
15:00 - You can say it like this: the Torah was written to be fully comprehensible to the people of the time and future generations.
It does make predictions that are about as specific as possible if you take free will into account: that if the people sin they will suffer repeatedly and increasingly until they go into exile, that no matter how much they suffer and how many are killed, there will always be a remnant, and that when the people repent of their sin they will return from exile. Also predictions about more specific blessings and curses, but it all depends on the people's behavior.
However, these predictions don't seem to me to exist for the purpose of verification. If it was possible to prove beyond reasonable doubt what the truth is, there would be no option to choose your belief. The verification is the nation-wide tradition of the exodus and Mt. Sinai. The rest of the prophecies are for encouragement, hope, and motivation. They are an educational tool to get people to behave properly and keep going even when things are tough.
*For the record,...* I'm an atheist and I don't agree with many of TJump's objections (with the exceptions of his Moses objections). First of all, I think that there is plenty of archeological evidence (or lack thereof) that Abraham really existed but, besides that, I think the God of the Bible (or Torah) presents some serious logical problems.
1. The testing of Job by God because of a bet with Satan (The Angel of God, not the Christian version).
2. God cursing or allowing curses by people.
3. God pressing (or closing) Pharaoh's heart.
4. God ordering entire nations to be destroyed.
5. *If Jews believe God is "All-Loving" (or Perfectly Good) then,...* The problem of Evil is a huge problem for such a God.
6. *If God is "Perfect",...* It is incoherent for such a God to be able to create Imperfection.
Just to name a few.
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Keep the 7 Noahide commandments and stop philosophizing.
The problem of evil is not an issue in Judaism as Gd is the creator of evil or bad, simply look at Isaiah 45 story for clarification of Gd being the creator of evil. GD is the perfect balancer of both Good and Bad, think of a seesaw where one side never touches the ground. Humans we always touch the ground. In short, evil is not an issue.
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So,... Is God the author of confusion?
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@@XDRONIN what does balancing right and wrong have to with confusion or Gd for that matter?
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Isaiah 45 - 7; _Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these. _
"creates evil,..., Who makes all these" So, *is God the author of Confusion as well?* Is Confusion (certainly, confusion about God) not evil? Who created this evil?
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Psalm37-11 > *But the meek shall inherit the earth, and shall delight themselves in abundance of Peace* Meek is a quiet humble person a kind person who goes along with others “ blessed are the meek” they will inherit the land for evildoers will be “cut off”
There is plenty of evidence for the exodus from Egypt and the return of the land exactly as it is written in the Torah. Whoever says otherwise is because he has not studied the Torah and the archeology of the area in depth.
The exodus happened in 1447 b c or about 3468 years ago.
@@chrisstathe9183 Thats actually correct according to Edgar Cayce who also predicted WW2 and that it would result in Jews returning to Israel
@@chrisstathe9183 Watch the video of the riddle of the Exodus (one hour documentary)
Tovia Singer should've asked him this question: Well, if the Jewish people appeared out of thin air and the revelation at Mt. Sinai never happened, who convinced a people who are now scattered around the world to keep to a uniformly severely restricted lifestyle? It would've been fun to see this atheist coming up with a scientific answer.